Although this (and arguably early AFI) wasn't hardcore? At least to me. Sounds too melodic, which is not a bad thing, but I always saw their early stuff as more of a "hardcore influenced" punk sound..
How is Davey a fuckton more on key than he was in late 90s/early 2000s shows? I think only in the late aughts did he shape up, but he's spot on here so early in their career without the better onstage technology for hearing themselves. I digress; excellent video.
Totally agree, I grew up in the burbs and made so many memories at fireside and the metro back in the day when punk shows were like 10-15 dollars. Now I'm having a little girl and thinking its such a bummer that places like that wont exist for her to enjoy. I learned many a life lesson at punk shows growing up.
i moved out of chicago in like 1998 and moved back in 2003. first album i bought* after moving back was 'sing the sorrow'. they were welcoming me home 😭 *in the literal sense, too. it was also the first album i'd bought in my life. i was 12.
I love old AFI, but I like all their radio stuff too. To be honest, Im happy for bands that start off small and get bigger and bigger. If they wanna make radio hits and get that money then who are we to say what they should and shouldnt do. They made timeless hits and secured their future in the music industry. I respect that I will definitely always miss and come back to these old AFI songs though
@@shaneleroy3529 exactly. straight facts. i dont ever expect an artist to just keep making the same stuff over and over again. as an artist myself, i get tired of doing that lol. It's all about growth
@@Fortyjustice You are not wrong, the sound is in the right channel only. Must be some odd mono setup on the camera or the VHS they recorded it over later on, they probably didn't had both outputs so they just captured it on the right side. I remember once I recorded on VHS a conversation and didn't had a way to mix in background music so I recorded the conversation on the right input while the music was on the left input on a mono tv or regular tv it was just fine but on a speaker stereo setup it sounded a bit weird and completely confusing on earphones. Never again I did such silly thing and invested into a proper mixing setup
@@brockman562 It never matters when you started...it only matters THAT you started! This music scene was lifechanging in many positive ways. So good for us all that we were once (and maybe still are) a part of the underground hardcore and punk scenes.
Now a days I hate saying I love early AFI......bc lots of people don’t think of this. But godamn Very Proud of ya and .....stay fashionable are amazing
Davey Havoc during his Ray Cappo /Youth crew days wish I could've seen them then, the first time I saw them it was like '01 100°F in NJ and he was in his Edward Scissor Hands stage.. He's a very committed frontman, one of the best.
@LOSER TRUMP I had a similar experience with Nick 13 😂 I think they are "good" friends Davey is a pretty built guy surprisingly when I met him, look up the video of him going off about a biker wrecking his new white pants it's hysterical. Search 🔍- Davey Havoc white pants fight
@LOSER TRUMP yeah I had the same experience or similar, I saw him when he was doing the warped tour in New Jersey it was like 100° out and he was dressed and all black like Edward scissorhands, I couldn't help but keep saying/ enchanting "I want to suck your blood" 😂😂😂 I was 15 LoL
Used to drive into the city and see bands at the fireside bowl. Saw 88 fingers Louie multiple times. Live in DC now, and am so happy that my sister lives 2 blocks from there. Great Memories.
look up apocalypse hoboken. todd set the fireside stage on fire. while performing on it lol dont think youll find footago of that incident but you can find them playing there.
Great shit. I never saw them until Shut Your Mouth and Open Your Eyes but been listening to AFI since I was 15 and I'm 36 so since the Very Proud of Ya days.
Some bands play some songs live first before a studio version is even started, or released in general just to get some new material in there. ALL did the same thing with She's My Ex when they played it with Smalley in 1988, when it was officially released on an album the next year. Or when Green Day was on the radio in 1990 and played a few songs off of their then-upcoming Kerplunk (also released the next year)
MasterOfKnowledge that’s completely true but the crowd seems to know the song, so unless they just learned it from going to multiple shows or just from the album.
i was thinking the same thing!!!! first song 'He Who Laughs Last' was first song on Very proud of ya. could also been played to audience prior to very proud of ya CD release.
Man. I wish I coulda gone to this. Was getting into them around this time... but was in 7th grade. Did catch them the final time they played Fireside in '99 though. Those were the days. Thanks for putting this up.
haha i was at '99 too i think lead guitarist during the time, i think mark at this point, jumped and cracked his head wide-open? or was that '97...? or 98? i dunno they played a few times there. i feel like it was Mark, but it would have been jade by 99 i think... so i dunno. he jumped, hit a low beam, and bled pretty bad if i remember. he sure didn't seem to be expecting it! good ole days. loved them back then live.
98/99 I am at that show, the one with the independent hoddie on, fucking great show, I would of been 12 in 96 and I did see them at 13 in Milwaukee but this was right after "shut your eyes open your mouth" came out, still love em
i still have that Swingin Utters tee at 2:28 :) that geoff has I love the lo-fi gritty imperfect quality of old video. it's really nostalgic of that era. 90s ruled and 90s punk hardcore was the best!
Hell yes, so happy this exist. Blows my mind that people dont realize that afi was a hardcore band
Although this (and arguably early AFI) wasn't hardcore? At least to me. Sounds too melodic, which is not a bad thing, but I always saw their early stuff as more of a "hardcore influenced" punk sound..
tacoornot1 (was).
Stu Pidazzo Shut Your Mouth and Black Sails were hardcore by far. The early records were more Germs and Minor Threat influenced in my opinion.
A? I Think you mean THE hardcore band
Boognish goth punk isn’t a thing and I’m failing to see any grindcore in Black Sails
Can't believe 96/97 was almost 4 years ago! Time flys!
I’m trying to understand
🤣🤣🤣
Agreed
time stopped at 2000?
@@thatjakeythere time Flys fast. Dude still thinks its the year 2062.
That ceiling is just a Mesothelioma ad waiting to happen
It's amazing the drummer looks as old as he did then as he does now
Dog ya wth maybe Adam "arson" Carson's a vampire like seriously he looks the same how is that even possible I was 7 when this came vid was made
holy cow that's so crazy! you're so right!
How is Davey a fuckton more on key than he was in late 90s/early 2000s shows? I think only in the late aughts did he shape up, but he's spot on here so early in their career without the better onstage technology for hearing themselves.
I digress; excellent video.
A young Davey! Can’t believe I’ve been a fan for over 20 years now. This band saved me at one point.
Such an iconic venue of the Chicago punk scene. Made a TON of memories at this place
Totally agree, I grew up in the burbs and made so many memories at fireside and the metro back in the day when punk shows were like 10-15 dollars. Now I'm having a little girl and thinking its such a bummer that places like that wont exist for her to enjoy. I learned many a life lesson at punk shows growing up.
any other cool stories from that era?
I would love to go to a concert at a venue like that
i moved out of chicago in like 1998 and moved back in 2003. first album i bought* after moving back was 'sing the sorrow'. they were welcoming me home 😭
*in the literal sense, too. it was also the first album i'd bought in my life. i was 12.
2021! classic
I love old AFI, but I like all their radio stuff too. To be honest, Im happy for bands that start off small and get bigger and bigger. If they wanna make radio hits and get that money then who are we to say what they should and shouldnt do. They made timeless hits and secured their future in the music industry. I respect that
I will definitely always miss and come back to these old AFI songs though
I love everything AFI does too. So happy for them because guess what? We grew up too.
@@shaneleroy3529 exactly. straight facts. i dont ever expect an artist to just keep making the same stuff over and over again. as an artist myself, i get tired of doing that lol. It's all about growth
I literally spent 2 minutes banging on my earbuds trying to get them to sound out of the left ear
Thank fuck. Thought my laptop speaker was blown!
I must have mine in the wrong ears. It’s my right bud cutting out.
@@Fortyjustice You are not wrong, the sound is in the right channel only. Must be some odd mono setup on the camera or the VHS they recorded it over later on, they probably didn't had both outputs so they just captured it on the right side. I remember once I recorded on VHS a conversation and didn't had a way to mix in background music so I recorded the conversation on the right input while the music was on the left input on a mono tv or regular tv it was just fine but on a speaker stereo setup it sounded a bit weird and completely confusing on earphones. Never again I did such silly thing and invested into a proper mixing setup
@@weirdsailorman4070 nice
I was 15 years old at this show, so fkn awesome.
jeez.. you were ahead of the game. I started listening to punk/hardcore in '93, but i was 18 or 19 years old.
@@brockman562 It never matters when you started...it only matters THAT you started! This music scene was lifechanging in many positive ways. So good for us all that we were once (and maybe still are) a part of the underground hardcore and punk scenes.
Тебе повезло бро🎉🎉🎉
my right ear really enjoyed this
❤🧔♀😩
This is astounding. Looks like some good film equipment for the time too!
thanks!
Now a days I hate saying I love early AFI......bc lots of people don’t think of this.
But godamn Very Proud of ya and .....stay fashionable are amazing
Davey Havoc during his Ray Cappo /Youth crew days wish I could've seen them then, the first time I saw them it was like '01 100°F in NJ and he was in his Edward Scissor Hands stage.. He's a very committed frontman, one of the best.
@LOSER TRUMP I had a similar experience with Nick 13 😂 I think they are "good" friends Davey is a pretty built guy surprisingly when I met him, look up the video of him going off about a biker wrecking his new white pants it's hysterical. Search 🔍- Davey Havoc white pants fight
@LOSER TRUMP yeah I had the same experience or similar, I saw him when he was doing the warped tour in New Jersey it was like 100° out and he was dressed and all black like Edward scissorhands, I couldn't help but keep saying/ enchanting "I want to suck your blood" 😂😂😂 I was 15 LoL
@LOSER TRUMP they met peeking on the other side of the glory hole at some vampire bar.
Fucking right bud. Everything before Sing the Sorrow
AFI in my home when I was only a wee little lad. I would love to go back to this! Fireside is a classic!
Love this version of afi. Would skate to it daily
god damn. incredible upload
This is amazing. Thank you for posting this.
No... You're amazing...
Grace Amanda
SIMP
you're welcome!
Davey with that Adidas drip
And kung fu kicks!!!
Where I bore witness to the best punk rock shows ever created!
Brownie Bottom Sundae is a delicious song.
I love their more punk side.
Used to drive into the city and see bands at the fireside bowl. Saw 88 fingers Louie multiple times. Live in DC now, and am so happy that my sister lives 2 blocks from there. Great Memories.
That's so rad. I just commented I saw 88 FL there.
The first afi song i ever heard. Blew my mind. They sure have evolved
Or devolved, lol....
I was there, had no idea there was footage, it was awesome! I think they just surprise showed up that night, Fireside was punk mecca!!
That is awesome. I came around to their music around after Black Sails and before Art of Drowning. Have been my favorite since.
I never thought I would see Davey Havok wearing an Adidas long sleeve!
Wow sick to see something so old and raw.
That's the AFI I grew up listening to!
Rad clip! Rare find. Thanks for the post 🤘
you're welcome!
Feom Jersey, and totally jelly. We had city gardens, but fireside is legendary too.
look up apocalypse hoboken. todd set the fireside stage on fire. while performing on it lol dont think youll find footago of that incident but you can find them playing there.
The camera quality for the time is incredible, probably filmed by skateboarders judging for the fisheye lol
I'm here in 2023 still rocking to this
At the drive in at fireside is also a cool vid.
VideInfra this is when I found out music was great
I think the whole in the ceiling is really just the cherry on top for the great punk vibes!
Oct232020 here. making a Visit. Afi. haha AwesOme!!! thanks for this
but seriously AFI/davey havoc r true musicians
Cool, never heard of it. Very intense sound. Great singer
Great shit. I never saw them until Shut Your Mouth and Open Your Eyes but been listening to AFI since I was 15 and I'm 36 so since the Very Proud of Ya days.
SYM: That's THE album!
@@aplus1080 yeah thats my favorite one too.
Awesome. I remember playing shows at the fireside around that time.
A Fire inside at the fireside?
My right ear approve this
This never gets old. Awesome!
0:33 that dude on the right came from the future with his smartphone.
Feel happy, listening tothem!
wow I can't believe this is them!they should have kept this up!
I think this was 96 because the first song is "he who laughs last" which was released in 1996
Some bands play some songs live first before a studio version is even started, or released in general just to get some new material in there. ALL did the same thing with She's My Ex when they played it with Smalley in 1988, when it was officially released on an album the next year. Or when Green Day was on the radio in 1990 and played a few songs off of their then-upcoming Kerplunk (also released the next year)
Long story short, this very well could've been 1995, and they just played it live because they could
MasterOfKnowledge that’s completely true but the crowd seems to know the song, so unless they just learned it from going to multiple shows or just from the album.
i was thinking the same thing!!!! first song 'He Who Laughs Last' was first song on Very proud of ya. could also been played to audience prior to very proud of ya CD release.
Justin Beiber stole his look!
Davie Havoc stole Henry Rollins on stage persona. But this is some good shit anyway.
This might be the best thing I've ever seen. Davey is Lord. |m|
ha thanks!
No he’s not
God damn I love afi
Man. I wish I coulda gone to this. Was getting into them around this time... but was in 7th grade.
Did catch them the final time they played Fireside in '99 though.
Those were the days.
Thanks for putting this up.
you're welcome!
haha i was at '99 too i think lead guitarist during the time, i think mark at this point, jumped and cracked his head wide-open? or was that '97...? or 98? i dunno they played a few times there. i feel like it was Mark, but it would have been jade by 99 i think... so i dunno. he jumped, hit a low beam, and bled pretty bad if i remember. he sure didn't seem to be expecting it! good ole days. loved them back then live.
Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!! So glad i came across this. thanks for posting!
Thank you for this!
Love love,love,love,love
Asking For It
Davey Havok: A reminder to every little skater punk kid out there, you can be a lead singer of your own band.
thank you for this video dude!!!
I wonder if Matt skiba is in there somewhere
Looks like him at the front at 0:39
i have the setlist from an AFI show at Fireside. That place was epic
98/99 I am at that show, the one with the independent hoddie on, fucking great show, I would of been 12 in 96 and I did see them at 13 in Milwaukee but this was right after "shut your eyes open your mouth" came out, still love em
HAHA! Baby Davey!
Wow, great audio.
Very proud of ya was their best album in my opinion it’s crazy to see how much they changed over the years in my opinion for the worse though 😢
Excellent perpfmrance of brownie bottom
ah! this is gold. thank you for uploading!
Great footage
Afi hit me when I was a emo kid and in adult life they show me how punk rock they are
I remember this show well. I lost a jacket then beat the guy who stole it out front .
Tom Longo sure ya did
We need more man...
I posted all I got!
Wow I've Never seen this footage I am so glad the internet
AFI was my religion in middle school
So authentic 👊
The pit is where you would find me
I saw them that same year
What a time to be a fan
They sound so good shiiit
Incredible! Thank you for sharing!
You're welcome!
At the Drive-In also played a kickass show here in '99
I wonder if they like Bad Religion!
Sick, I live right down the street from Fireside
1:39 I thought my computer shit itself
These are 2 of my all time favorites. 💘
same awesome band, same awesome voice
nice job dude!
thank you!
awesome. thank you for sharing!
Before the Jade Puget days. Legend.
And Hunter Burgan. This was Geoff Kresge and Marc Blackwelder (Stopholese) 💯🔥
Nice to see a True AFI FAN!!!
i still have that Swingin Utters tee at 2:28 :) that geoff has
I love the lo-fi gritty imperfect quality of old video. it's really nostalgic of that era. 90s ruled and 90s punk hardcore was the best!
Adam mark geoff and and davey lmao ohh shit!!! Love it!!!
Davey doing his best Ray Cappo impression, 😁 don't forget he is originally from the East Coast-Beast Coast.
thrash hardcore punk like no other!! these were awesome days, original and pure and raw! f*ck yeah!!!!
I would kill to be able to see this show
Really? I'd kill for the transition from SYM to Black Sails.
Cazzo .. che spettacolo! Vi amo
This is AMAZING
Is that Geoff on bass?
Yes
yup. before he got booted. he's has the same swingin utters tee as me.
@@brockman562 Mark is wearing the Utters shirt
@@wienersmcbutts oh
Thanks for the amazing recording!
This is sick! Glad I stumbled upon it.
This is great !
i was there.
God I miss the 90's
vocals are even better live on this jesus
Chills
This is such a banger of a punk song