In my opinion the only reason to have ride by wire is for cruise control or an up and down quickshifter, or ideally both. Power modes are a gimmick that only really make sense on bikes with well over 100hp.
The main reason for ride by wire is safety systems and regulations in the EU requiring traction control (which needs ride by wire) on all new vehicles.
At the end of 2024 I decided to ride Tenere Explore. Just to find out that this motorcycle is not for me. And it turned out that... it was the discovery of the year. The engine on this bike is wonderful! I don't know if any manufacturer has a better one. Contrary to appearances, Tenere is largely a road motorcycle.
I have actually seen a Ride by Wire let go a couple weeks ago. Me and my friend went on a ride which was our last ride of the season since it's gotten cold here in Canada lol. When we got to the gaz station, there was a guy with a Harley (one of those big baggers) with ride by wire and he had no throttle. He was stuck. Had to get it towed back home. He said that it happens in those harleys cause the connectors are not sealed (or sealed properly? Not sure lol) and they get corroded which creates a no throttle issue. I also heard that Yamaha had an issue with the Ride by Wire on the Tracer 900 so I hope they don't have the same issues with the T7. Makes me skeptical on the ride by wire side. I will probly still buy one since i'm more of an off road guy but I am almost tempted to wait a year to see if there is issues with the RBW system. I will keep riding my little CRF300L until then! Was hoping to upsize next year but will see. I think Kawa teased a new KLE so I also want to see what that will look like and see my options lol!
It's funny with the Tenere. It's the most reliable, best looking adventure bike by a country mile. So people start looking for little things to criticize. But I guess that just goes to show what a great bike it is. That new Tenere Rally is what an adventure bike should look like and I thought bmw and ktm might have had some change in direction with there style but omg they just get uglier every year. 😢
I was a Yamaha mechanic for a while in tokyo, I never saw an issue. But others might. Don't trade a bike you're happy with😁
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Simple is the best.... Most of the electronic assisted motorcycles are having lots of issues in their electronic units. Companies are also forced to make more electronic makeovers to sell more motorcycles.
They did do the suspension. Exhaust wouldn't be cheap but after market has that. I have a diy tubeless video for my transalp that's been trouble free. Cost 40$ u.s.d.
Let’s state to obvious, the T7 is NOT A ROAD TOURER. The T7 is primarily off road of design, remote distances on dirt, desert type of bike. Want a dedicated Black top bike buy a Road Bike / tourer. Want cruise control and rider modes buy a road bike. The T7 should be kept simple, quality adjustable suspension,removable rear sub frame would have been nice. Some reduction in weight even better. If Auto gear box required, buy a bloody car.
@KirkAnderson-l3i so... I have space for 1 bike and no car. Are you suggesting I should be on a road bike and not welcome in the dirt? Or suffer the 3hr to the dirt and 3 more hr home so I'm exhosted and make mistakes? Multi day trips of twisty pavement and dirt are off limits? Why are we even looking at this top heavy over powered dirt bike? Should be on a 300l right? P.s. cars don't lean very well.
Well, I do not agree with that. Just change the tires for more road oriented and u will be surprised how good ROAD bike it is. I tried Explore and I LOVED it.
My Suzuki gsx8s has a quickshifter, meh. None of the bikes I've ever owned had cruise control so it's impossible for me to miss it, plus I choose to ride a manual bike by choice. My car has adaptive cruise, cvt, etc, but I'm choosing to ride my motorcycle specifically for the distinct contrast to my car. The only improvements I'd like to see on my transalp is the ability to totally turn off TC and better oem suspension, even though my suspension is superb now after upgrading it.
Just bought a 2024 tenere,waited until I heard the announcement of the 2025's and literally 2 hours later I was at the dealer securing my 2024. Gimmicks!! Why so many gimmicks on motorcycles. I've rode a few modern/tech fill bikes, so I have experienced. The Y-connect on this 2024 is redundant and unnecessary. At 46 years old this 2024 will be the last new motorcycle I will buy. I'll be doing what Itchy Boots has just done, refurbish an older bike.
For some people that will be true. I've heard abs is a gimmick but it's saved my life. I hear people say tc didn't help. But I've had to commute in major rain and tc would have made of much better on my mt07. But I do understand getting the last cable throttle t7 Ride safe
@@KairyuRider I have been surprised by the traction of modern tires like My Michelin Pilot V tires.. My FZ-07 will still pull a wheelie in a hard rain on pavement. I have skidded the rear wheel at 10 mph on a just below freezing evening with frost on the pavement too. I got caught in freezing rain in my 4 wheel drive pickup and could not stop for a red light on a steep hill with ABS either. An FZ-07 ABS was an option I saved $400.00 and got with no ABS.. Now they sell the MT-07 USA and it always has ABS..
Yesterday was the first time taking my bike off road. I forgot about abs, and nearly had a major get off!!! So dangerous. Zero control of the brakes/bike. I went through the song and dance and turned it off. Then went home and located the fuse and pulled it and threw it in the bin. A small piece of electric tape over the abs light and woolla!
@KairyuRider I've been riding for 33 years. Street riding for 30. Never had a bike with abs until now. When I had to pass a motorcycle course when I was 16, the final test was emergency stopping from 50km/h without locking the rear (or front) wheel. Looking back it was a valuable less I took for granted.... bike control!
Idk yamahas lineup is odd, i dont think those with decision making capabilities ride the motorcycles. The yz yzx and wr-f are effectively the same cross country race bike, in adventure the tenere and tracer 9 are well over 400lbz and lack adequate suspension for off roading. Mx/enduro/dual sport/urban riders have been literally begging them for a 350 offering for well over ten years, but they decide to fund projects like the niken instead...
All this talk about replacing bikes with newer models after a year or two makes me think of taking your beloved pet to the pound because.... a new one was born, and you are tired of the the old ways of your first pet. Where is the love? In my youth I rode horses, trail riding around my home and on our acreage. More or less at the same time I began my career as a motorcyclist. Riding my 22 T7 reminds me or riding my horse. Tall in the next, long back side, stirrup mounting and dismounting, sitting/standing, confidence inspiring saunters and gallops, and reigns. These bikes have their own minds, and its not electronic. They handle very well with each rider input, and often handle well all on their own. If you want the best review of the T7 and how it performs, ARiemann1 will tell you first hand. He is sponsored by Yamaha but and independent reporter and he gives you his mind in articulate fashion. There is no question with this bike, and many you tube videos try in vain to raise questions. Bottom line, this bike has been equipped with a few refinements, and eventually a full reboot will come out....as they do. There is little doubt that Yamaha is in the works for new engine, and design from the frame up...just not this time. Yamaha means "Mountain Blade". Yes, simple is best, reliable, capable, and good looking... Your idea that a bike is ruined because of electronics...no...just inevitable. This is an industry standard now to meet market demands, and fixed...well....it was never broken....Too little too late....no....patience......this is not the end of the line. This is a non re-tooling refinement in sequence for the next generation T7, it may take another 5 years, but maybe not... Look at Suzuki with the DE800, it just suddenly appeared. Bottom line, reliability. I have never had a cable snap, they wear out over time...long time if they are going to break. I will be riding my T7 for the next twenty years I project...wear it out instead of trading it in for a new pet is the best way in my view...own discard, own discard seems wasteful to me
@@KairyuRider Whiskey-throttle occurs when you lose control of the throttle grip and try to hold on, resulting in even more acceleration. So I guess him means that with a DCT system when the friction don't exist, maybe could became a major problem address a similar scenario.
In my opinion the only reason to have ride by wire is for cruise control or an up and down quickshifter, or ideally both. Power modes are a gimmick that only really make sense on bikes with well over 100hp.
@@jaide1312 I'm without. But my mt007 in the rainwoouod have done well with tc
The main reason for ride by wire is safety systems and regulations in the EU requiring traction control (which needs ride by wire) on all new vehicles.
At the end of 2024 I decided to ride Tenere Explore. Just to find out that this motorcycle is not for me. And it turned out that... it was the discovery of the year. The engine on this bike is wonderful! I don't know if any manufacturer has a better one. Contrary to appearances, Tenere is largely a road motorcycle.
I have read that the Ride by Wire may have been added to help the CP2 meet Euro 5 Plus standards. I would prefer a manual throttle control I suppose.
A few comments have said that
I had to flash my ecu on my super tenere to get rid of restrictions
I have actually seen a Ride by Wire let go a couple weeks ago. Me and my friend went on a ride which was our last ride of the season since it's gotten cold here in Canada lol. When we got to the gaz station, there was a guy with a Harley (one of those big baggers) with ride by wire and he had no throttle. He was stuck. Had to get it towed back home. He said that it happens in those harleys cause the connectors are not sealed (or sealed properly? Not sure lol) and they get corroded which creates a no throttle issue. I also heard that Yamaha had an issue with the Ride by Wire on the Tracer 900 so I hope they don't have the same issues with the T7. Makes me skeptical on the ride by wire side. I will probly still buy one since i'm more of an off road guy but I am almost tempted to wait a year to see if there is issues with the RBW system. I will keep riding my little CRF300L until then! Was hoping to upsize next year but will see. I think Kawa teased a new KLE so I also want to see what that will look like and see my options lol!
It's funny with the Tenere. It's the most reliable, best looking adventure bike by a country mile. So people start looking for little things to criticize. But I guess that just goes to show what a great bike it is. That new Tenere Rally is what an adventure bike should look like and I thought bmw and ktm might have had some change in direction with there style but omg they just get uglier every year. 😢
@@lucypearson3057 first place wears the biggest target
Yamaha Ride by Wire actually has a bad reputation (check the Tracer 9 GT forums.)
Personally, I'll stay with my 2021 ;)
I was a Yamaha mechanic for a while in tokyo, I never saw an issue. But others might.
Don't trade a bike you're happy with😁
Simple is the best.... Most of the electronic assisted motorcycles are having lots of issues in their electronic units. Companies are also forced to make more electronic makeovers to sell more motorcycles.
Blame Europe for that. DRZ400E is still road legal in Australia
Tubless tires, High exhaust and better suspension… that is all it needed… we got none of it :(
Damn straight!
They did do the suspension.
Exhaust wouldn't be cheap but after market has that.
I have a diy tubeless video for my transalp that's been trouble free. Cost 40$ u.s.d.
Let’s state to obvious, the T7 is NOT A ROAD TOURER. The T7 is primarily off road of design, remote distances on dirt, desert type of bike. Want a dedicated Black top bike buy a Road Bike / tourer. Want cruise control and rider modes buy a road bike. The T7 should be kept simple, quality adjustable suspension,removable rear sub frame would have been nice. Some reduction in weight even better. If Auto gear box required, buy a bloody car.
@KirkAnderson-l3i so... I have space for 1 bike and no car.
Are you suggesting I should be on a road bike and not welcome in the dirt? Or suffer the 3hr to the dirt and 3 more hr home so I'm exhosted and make mistakes? Multi day trips of twisty pavement and dirt are off limits?
Why are we even looking at this top heavy over powered dirt bike? Should be on a 300l right?
P.s. cars don't lean very well.
Well, I do not agree with that. Just change the tires for more road oriented and u will be surprised how good ROAD bike it is. I tried Explore and I LOVED it.
Cruise Control is only available auto shift option MT-07
My Suzuki gsx8s has a quickshifter, meh. None of the bikes I've ever owned had cruise control so it's impossible for me to miss it, plus I choose to ride a manual bike by choice. My car has adaptive cruise, cvt, etc, but I'm choosing to ride my motorcycle specifically for the distinct contrast to my car. The only improvements I'd like to see on my transalp is the ability to totally turn off TC and better oem suspension, even though my suspension is superb now after upgrading it.
PS tubeless rims would also be great.
@@tonyjourneyman1944 I have a video on DIY tubeless
I'll do a video soon on a solution to the transalp electronics
@KairyuRider yeah but how safe are those DIY tubeless conversions? I'm pretty scared of a failure or blowout of the tape/seals when riding.
@Playncooler it wouldn't blow out all of a sudden, 1 spoke would create a slow leak. A tube could burst.
For adventures, no. Too complicated, top heavy, small range, price - plus stand, crash bars, etc.
@@PLAN50 2025 drz 400?
Just bought a 2024 tenere,waited until I heard the announcement of the 2025's and literally 2 hours later I was at the dealer securing my 2024.
Gimmicks!! Why so many gimmicks on motorcycles. I've rode a few modern/tech fill bikes, so I have experienced.
The Y-connect on this 2024 is redundant and unnecessary.
At 46 years old this 2024 will be the last new motorcycle I will buy.
I'll be doing what Itchy Boots has just done, refurbish an older bike.
For some people that will be true.
I've heard abs is a gimmick but it's saved my life. I hear people say tc didn't help. But I've had to commute in major rain and tc would have made of much better on my mt07.
But I do understand getting the last cable throttle t7
Ride safe
@@KairyuRider I have been surprised by the traction of modern tires like My Michelin Pilot V tires.. My FZ-07 will still pull a wheelie in a hard rain on pavement. I have skidded the rear wheel at 10 mph on a just below freezing evening with frost on the pavement too. I got caught in freezing rain in my 4 wheel drive pickup and could not stop for a red light on a steep hill with ABS either. An FZ-07 ABS was an option I saved $400.00 and got with no ABS.. Now they sell the MT-07 USA and it always has ABS..
Yesterday was the first time taking my bike off road. I forgot about abs, and nearly had a major get off!!!
So dangerous. Zero control of the brakes/bike.
I went through the song and dance and turned it off. Then went home and located the fuse and pulled it and threw it in the bin. A small piece of electric tape over the abs light and woolla!
@larry710 so no abs on the street?
Ride safe
@KairyuRider I've been riding for 33 years. Street riding for 30.
Never had a bike with abs until now.
When I had to pass a motorcycle course when I was 16, the final test was emergency stopping from 50km/h without locking the rear (or front) wheel.
Looking back it was a valuable less I took for granted.... bike control!
Idk yamahas lineup is odd, i dont think those with decision making capabilities ride the motorcycles. The yz yzx and wr-f are effectively the same cross country race bike, in adventure the tenere and tracer 9 are well over 400lbz and lack adequate suspension for off roading. Mx/enduro/dual sport/urban riders have been literally begging them for a 350 offering for well over ten years, but they decide to fund projects like the niken instead...
yo, what windshield combo you have on that transalp?
See my transalp playlist. Everything is in there
All this talk about replacing bikes with newer models after a year or two makes me think of taking your beloved pet to the pound because.... a new one was born, and you are tired of the the old ways of your first pet. Where is the love? In my youth I rode horses, trail riding around my home and on our acreage. More or less at the same time I began my career as a motorcyclist. Riding my 22 T7 reminds me or riding my horse. Tall in the next, long back side, stirrup mounting and dismounting, sitting/standing, confidence inspiring saunters and gallops, and reigns. These bikes have their own minds, and its not electronic. They handle very well with each rider input, and often handle well all on their own. If you want the best review of the T7 and how it performs, ARiemann1 will tell you first hand. He is sponsored by Yamaha but and independent reporter and he gives you his mind in articulate fashion. There is no question with this bike, and many you tube videos try in vain to raise questions. Bottom line, this bike has been equipped with a few refinements, and eventually a full reboot will come out....as they do. There is little doubt that Yamaha is in the works for new engine, and design from the frame up...just not this time. Yamaha means "Mountain Blade". Yes, simple is best, reliable, capable, and good looking... Your idea that a bike is ruined because of electronics...no...just inevitable. This is an industry standard now to meet market demands, and fixed...well....it was never broken....Too little too late....no....patience......this is not the end of the line. This is a non re-tooling refinement in sequence for the next generation T7, it may take another 5 years, but maybe not... Look at Suzuki with the DE800, it just suddenly appeared. Bottom line, reliability. I have never had a cable snap, they wear out over time...long time if they are going to break. I will be riding my T7 for the next twenty years I project...wear it out instead of trading it in for a new pet is the best way in my view...own discard, own discard seems wasteful to me
It's such a slap in the face from Yamaha. I'll keep my 2022 Tenere because it just got worse.
Yamaha cp2 is the most reliable engine out there. You can keep it for year and not get any new debt😁
I'd say keep a bike you're happy with
You complain about wireless trottle at the sabe time that you miss automatic transmission. Both are on the same side of the road
I don't complain about ride by wire, I point out that others may be put off by it. It was a big selling point of the t7
I ear the Honda DCT weight 10kg,that alone is sufficient to avoid to think to put it on lighter motorbike.
Y-AMT IS 2.4KG
But the dct is so low in the frame, I've ridden africatwin back to back dct and manual and didn't notice the weight difference
Rather not to think on "whiskey-throttle" with a DCT. You are dead.
@MujoNovak not sure what you mean
@@KairyuRider Whiskey-throttle occurs when you lose control of the throttle grip and try to hold on, resulting in even more acceleration. So I guess him means that with a DCT system when the friction don't exist, maybe could became a major problem address a similar scenario.
@nonsolorasatura9093 thanks for explaining.
Not sure how that's worse on dct than on manual.
No tubeless and no cc. Huge miss.
Serious off road bikes have tubes. Check the 2025 Tuareg 660 Rally Edition.
For some wierd reason cfmoto450 feels better