The fact that the players reacted like that is crazy. Higher levels looking for clues, lower levels standing guard, and healers being doctors. Never played this game but that seems cool af
fun fact: back then i was upkeeping the forum guild list for my whole server at the time so i was known on both sides. because of this and my being a member of the top horde guild i was asked to help coordinate between horde and alliance top raiding guilds to try to form "raids" on the enemy cities so that they could kill the infected npcs and guards that the players of that faction couldnt. however it didnt start until near the end so we werent able to help much. but it was neat to try and organize.
I remember this going down. I was in a guild that helped set up a quarantine in Orgrimmar. Even though we all kept dying to plague, it was one of the best things I’ve spent time doing in WoW.
@@CultoftheCrow2.0 thank you man. Though it was the other side that asked for help and the idea formed. I just helped facilitate it...not like we ever got to find out if it woulda worked. Probably not with all the terrorist cells.
Incredible! Blizzard's delayed response and failed attempts to eradicate the plague, despite having near-omnipotent power, accurately simulated government laziness and incompetence. All that's missing is the followup production of an ineffective, intellect-lowering vaccine which randomly curses recipients accompanied by a propaganda campaign from Blizzard that it's "safe and effective".
I played when this happened and what made this so crazy is that nobody knew wtf was going on lol. UA-cam and other forms of social media weren't a thing back then, so the lack of information is what made this so much worse. I was told to NOT login by a guildmate because "death was here." This just peaked my curiosity and I asked him to explain, and him being a role player, he role played the shit out of it by saying, "my time is short, I am already infected. Stay away from the major cities. Raid night is cancelled until the cleansing takes place." Within seconds of logging in I got infected... and died. There were players trying to revive as many as possible and dispel the debuff and telling them where the "safe zones" were located. Enemies from the other faction were tasked with finding and killing infected players to curve the infection rate. High level players were boosting groups of lower levels to stop them from hitting a progression wall and to keep the flow of the game going. At the time it wasn't anything special, but looking back... it was crazy to see strangers in a video game handle a pandemic better than people 15 years into the future.
@@shadowninja6689 This is not known. They may very well have figured that no way would it have caused this, entered town, ran through it like 10000 times before...and never looked back. It's easy to lay blame.
same I remember when played it was only dead corps I was a low level back then and so I created I a quarantine you wanted how I knew about the corrupted blood well my friends were big levels and then they told me about it so then I created quarantine and there was like 50 people. But then people started raiding my quarantine i had to move places 3 times and then we had placed where they didn't know where. And I almost got the corrupted blood it was when people were raiding my quarantine.
I remember this, I remember a Tauren shaman and a undead priest trying to keep us alive and removing the debuff in a small area. And telling us to head to Stranglethorn or desolace to avoid the plague
I remember being in Desolace because I had such a weird leveling curve. And all of a sudden the population of the region went from 1, me, to like 3 or 4 dozen people. As a rogue, I didn't really know or care about the other people and I just kinda went on my merry way occasionally seeing players who were actively avoiding anyone. I only found out about the plague from people who would region wide chat about it. So I can say definitively that I survived the Blood Plague.
I vaguely remember this. If I remember my Alliance Hunter barely survived when I approached both Goldshire and Stormwind and someone shouted for me to leave immediately. From a distance you could see a red mist from the groups of infected people of all races huddled together trying to keep from infecting other people while every now and then youd find some jackass sprinting at unafflicted people attempting to spread it. It was absolutely mental.
Damn, i've heard about this plague a long time ago and i'm pretty interested in it, never thought something like this could happen in a game, even an MMO, ¿How long did it last?
The only thing more fun than that incident was the zombie plague of Halloween 2011. Becoming a zombie then running to a town infecting people when you blew up...
@@TallifTallonbrook I downloaded the game on 2015 and just layed it for a few weeks, so unfortunately i didn't even knew about these incidents, i was planning on downloading it and start playing again, but my PC's not that good :T
When I logged in, my guild immediately told me in guild chat where to go to avoid the plague. It was in the large cities, and some smaller ones too. I ended up camping at the edge of the "world" on a mountain peak, and stayed there until they patched the game. Which is a whole story on its own.
"High level players went into cities to try and find clues while healers healed others with the plague and low levels staid out of the city warning others not to enter" I'm so proud of this community
I thought that was cool as hell. I've never played WoW, but I am very impressed by the stories of people trying to help during the Blood Plague. I think when Blizzard released that statement regarding it being just a game, they kind of gave players who responded to this by setting up quarantines, healing other players and trying to find solutions, short shrift. Players acted with real concern and thought to a virtual problem and they acted in a way that tells us a lot about human psychology, both the good and the bad sides of it.
Dude, people actually helped other players quarantine. Thats cool, because it doesn't always happen on online games. To all World Of Warcraft players who did this, thank you for the kindness.
it's weird how the comunity has changed. if some thing like this happened in the game now ... well people would just complain and flood the game forums about the game being broken.
YEah... thank you for helping people through the plaguet that the higher level players started to begin with.. WOW players are some of the biggest cunts ever. I fucking hate this game just because of the fanatics and the trolls within the general player base ruin it. Plus most apparently have never heard of soap.
Pfft the fuck you talking about ? The WOW community has always been shit even in 2004-2005 and times were actually slightly better back then as a whole too.
As a WoW player since Vanilla, I'm familiar with this event but the second half of this video is all news to me. Kudos for finding more information than just "there was a plague, the end."
I was really little (2 years old) when this happened but I still clearly remember my dad logging in to WoW and having his character immediately *die* while he sat there and had a pure look of "what the heck just happened" on his face.
@@pizzelle2they might of the memory was reinforced by watching your dad play the game through multiple years and talking about the event later on the childhood.
I remember this. I would be one of those lower level ppl standing guard outside a City telling ppl to stay away. We actually had a Script to read from that Higher Level players created to tell the ppl to stay away. We even got paid later on. not with Gold. but with Help leveling up and help with gear and weapon stats to find the best type of gear.
@Adam Osak Or you could grow up and learn to live your own life instead of feeling the need to criticise others for how they choose to live theirs. You know, since it's none of your fucking business. And for all you know, they DO volunteer at those places. People who play WoW do have lives outside of that, you realise?
Well with talk like that you must be super community service driven, you shouldn'tfeel the need to talk down about someone who was just telling people about something Related to the video
As someone who was there. I had no clue what was going on. But I figured out from people it was a disease debuff... as a resto shaman I felt required to just stand outside orgrimmar and spam cure disease on anyone coming out of the city.
This video is pretty misleading.. When most people at max lvl are in the cities, they're socialising or waiting for something to do.. When this happened it wasn't players trying to save people, it was fun and funny to be apart of.. And a major wtf is happening. And trying to lock down a city was a bit of roleplay/and basically a server wide event to be apart of. You lose nothing on death, so death is just an inconvienence. Was still insane to log in and see the entire group covered in death though!
All it would take would be a high player count guild to set up quarantines and people being people would either fallow or ignore. But it's impressive that a game of world of warcraft people set up Quarantine zones to keep the low-level players from constantly dying.
@@onyxguardian1756 For about a day. It was more like a week on many servers. You just had to do tons of quests or roll an alt so that you're in some random zone for the most part that week. Or, you know, go outside or something.
Wasn't like that on my server (horde side atleast). Any low levels who didn't want to deal with the plague went to the Barrens and grinded or went on dungeon runs. The NPCs were spread out enough that even if a town got bombed, it died out pretty quick. I mean the plague had a timer(not permanent), and would only refresh on a npc if another infected came in. Everyone else? Had amusement in bombing alliance everything. Our horde were dicks to alliance cause there were so many alliance gankers in neutral towns for the longest. Also they bombed us first, so we just constantly train bombed them as revenge. I think the best was bombing Ironforge and the Night Elf island. Kinda hard to get in, impossible to get out. Yeah I died alot. I just went naked cause fuck gear repair costs.
4:15 that moment when people do volunteering to save lives putting in danger their own ... in a videogame. Then again it's kinda interesting as a social experiment.
I have never played WoW, so hearing in a game where players can get infected players with a disease is something really mindblowing to me. Never thought of a game mechanic that's that realistic in a fantasy game before.
it'd be kinda cool if another mmo did that as a special event, and had some rewards like fetching an antidote and some loot in the middle of a big infected zone. the stuff they mentioned about parties going out with healers to figure out what was going on, and setting up quarantine zones...sounds pretty neat
They did have a world event for the pre launch of Wotlk were it was basically people would spread a plague that would turn you into a ghoul, it was really awesome and it progressed as it got closer to release. Towards the end they had NPC priest that would dispell the debuff in major cities, at the start the cities were a death zone.
"disease" is just dressing up the word "debuff" that players actually use. It's just a negative status effect you get from an enemy. In this case a hard-hitting debuff that, when it got out of the raid area it should've never gotten out of, killed the low level players. The debuff itself isn't very interesting but the way it got out of the raid is, and I'm surprised at how long it took Blizzard to respond, they certainly could've reset the server at any point, but that's usually the most dire method. No one likes having their hard-earned progress reset.
I was playing that day. Kept running back in to heal people until we realized something was very off. Total confusion. It was the best time we had playing WoW.
As unintended as it was, perhaps they should have left that accident in the game and just patched in methods for players to actually cure the npcs and halt plagues. It was a very interesting time.
As unintended as it was, perhaps they should have left that accident in the game and just patched in methods for players to actually cure the npcs and halt plagues. It was a very interesting time.
i love the thought of players starting to act like in a real world community with quaranteening people, those who could would heal others, organizing guards who'd give out warnings, brave souls who'd investigate. it's oddly heart warming
I didn't play during the Corrupted Blood incident, but I did play during the WotLK pre-launch event that did basically the exact same thing except it was deadlier, turned the player into a zombie after they died which could infect other players, and it was intentional this time around. It was super cool. If I remember right they made the plague progressively deadlier where I think at first you just caught the plague and that was it, but after awhile it started to kill you and you became undead. This devastated capital cities to the point where players created quarantine zones similar to those mentioned in the video and high level characters would offer escort services to low level characters that needed to use one of the NPC services or travel points within the city. This was necessary as the cities were crawling with player and NPC undead. I remember I had a shaman escorting me through Stormwind so I could get to Ironforge and there were skeletons EVERYWHERE. Sadly she didn't make the run and was killed by the undead while making an opportunity for me to book it to the tram. In the ten or so years I've played WoW, that WotLK event was by far the most memorable thing to happen in the game.
I kept trying to infect the Ally leaders with the zombie plague, but I never could get close enough. I'd get attacked by a guard, who could get infected, but then that guard would lose their elite status so they could easily be killed by the uninfected guards. Spoiled everything. 😄
Ok, I just stumbled across this during the corona virus pandemic and I am utterly gobsmacked how closely this online event is currently matching reality. Big WTF right now.... 😳
I find it interesting that apparently there's always going to be section of the population who will spread it, either out of sheer ignorance or malice.
@@TGNXAR Yeah... the point was how surprising it is that unintended consequences of code, on top of everything else mimicked a real world pandemic, not just human behavior. Besides which, if this happened to me I'd stop playing the game, but it sounds like people kept playing in spite of everything.
*Scientist:* This is interesting and potentially valuable situation *Players in this comment section:* It sounds kinda cool and interesting/I was there, our guilds worked together, was one of the best times I had *Blizzard:* No, no, no, stop it, you're ruining it, it's not helpful and stop having fun.
They even turned down the CDC’s request to see the data because “it’s just a bug” considering what’s happening now with the current outbreak that was a bad decision
Blizzard is tempted to repeat another event, this time a zombie invasion. currently alive on their test servers, the zombies are any bio terrorist's wet dream.
2005-2007 was a different time. Battlefield 2 was the most insane FPS ever and you had COD3 and COD4 right next to that. Use to go to a gaming cafe to play wow and cs:s
I really like hearing about these emergent situations in MMO games. Perhaps episodes on some of the warring & plotting in EVE Online would be of interest.
I would like a video done on the banker of eve who gained months of trust from his clients and then stole all their money nd built a gigantic ship to tell them to try to take their money back
But that sounds immensely entertaining and interesting. A game specifically designed to goad people into finding the best way to fuck with everyone around you and make them cry
Incredible! Blizzard's delayed response and failed attempts to eradicate the plague, despite having near-omnipotent power, accurately simulated government laziness and incompetence. All that's missing is the followup production of an ineffective, intellect-lowering vaccine which randomly curses recipients accompanied by a propaganda campaign from Blizzard that it's "safe and effective".
@@dowskivisionmagicaloracle8593 Wow- person you keep copy and pasting the exact same BS lol... you seem to A. hate Blizzard B. not understand how the internet works. and C. not understand medicine and science... You do get that the doctor that 'proved' vaccines dangerous lost his medical license? That for every 'study' about dangerous vaccines that they're not from credible places, and that there're are at least 5 CREDIBLE studies from actual doctors and scientists PROVING them safe... learn to science.
Plot twist: We are in a simulated reality, and programmers are watching the Earth server as the Corona virus spreads, hoping that they can use the information to model a "real world" situation.
I worked at Blizzard the night this happened as a GM It was a nightmare. We had to despawn pets individually, regularly restart servers because the number of bodies, and lack of NPCs...anyway. The tickets were piling up as people got more and more upset, some over losing time, others because they were unaware of what was going on. Zul’Gurub was a high end raid, the first 20 man, so people wanted to get in there, but it was for some, prohibitively gear intensive. Whelp, hopefully they didn’t just chunk the old code back in for Vanilla WoW, and have Blood Plague 2.0 (or one of its many less kind names. It had a lot.).
Tons of players had been doing the exact same thing for months prior with Baron Geddon's Living Bomb ability. I don't know how Blizzard didn't realize that Corrupted Blood wouldn't have the same exploit.
@@1TW1-m5i GMs are player moderators, not coders. They have a few special powers, can ban people, can generate items or cash from thin air, in some cases access administrative server commands to force status changes on entities or reboot the server, etc A coded solution removing that status effect from the game is something the devs would have to do. And they'd have to do it carefully, since just commenting out the code for the status effect would leave everyone with it suffering from an undefined effect, which needs some kind of error handling to tell the servers "no, this is fine, just delete the status effect." Programs with undefined things being referenced tend to crash spectacularly if you don't tell them how to deal with it gracefully. Point being, a coded solution takes time. Meanwhile you've got a game spanning many multiplayer servers hosting several million paying customers who you need to keep calm and continue to deliver some version of the service they've paid for. That's what the GMs are stuck doing while the devs are working on their permanent fix. Speaking as a much smaller scale moderator partly responsible for the well being of just one server (different game) with only 60 or so players, dealing with confrontational players sucks. It's rare for me, which is usually the goal of any moderation team, but when a shitstorm like the blood plague hits, yeah, some people are going to be pissed. Especially since Blizzard handled the PR on it so poorly.
Wow. I never would have thought the WoW community was so tight knit that they quarantined themselves to keep from harming the rest of the community. I am impressed. I learned something again suuuweet. Thanxs for sharing Mr Simon. An informative video as always. Much appreciated
@D.J. Count VamPony : The trolling in trade is hilarious. Problem is, you don’t get anyone really trading anything or helping anyone anymore. It’s just becoming a place to troll.
The wow community have had weddings, birthday parties everything. There's a great story of a funeral for a player that died and the horde had to form an army to block the passage way from the alliance to the funeral so it could go underway peacefully. There's a video of it on UA-cam
What is very interesting to me is the reactions to quarantined areas. No matter the obstacles and warnings placed to deter players they when to great lengths to break quarantine just to cause and further spread the infection. Many of these types of players simply did not believe what other players told them and just added to the character death toll. Many MANY conspiracies developed causing disbelief in gullible players and ultimately the player characters death, usually exacerbating the problem.
What's interesting to me about the Conspiracy theories, were the lengths to which players were going to prove their Conspiracy theory. There were a large number of people so set that the Plague was a fake that they were doing everything in their power to get into the cities, up to trying to fight their way in. On one of the servers, there was a dude who did nothing but stand outside IronForge and shout that the Plague was a myth and the city was perfectly safe.
@@Fitch93 Fight their way in? How? It's not like you can fight your own faction in WoW. There is also nothing that could stop them from going into the city, as it is a game and characters have no collision.
@@heavy-mouse9005 Through an agreement a large contingent of players made they had Chaos guarding the cities, specifically because they could fight people to keep them out.
SIMON- you ain't seen nothing until you have seen the Horde dragging a 20 foot tall demon to the alliance Capitol city of Stormwind to literally genocide every player and npc within 100 yards.
Damn I really need to start watching WoW let’s plays. I’d rather see it from the view of a random player though, not any of the people participating in it since that would ruin it for me.
Dragon, actually. There was/is a world boss that popped up occasionally in the forest south of Stormwind, Darkwood? Something like that. I saw guys kiting it to SW one day.
@@douglasdea637 I think the dragon was deleted in Cataclysm, also IIRC it was not that dragon who was dragged into Stormwind, but Supreme Lord Kazzak from Blasted lands (he was there until BC and then was moved to Hellfire peninsula), who was indeed a giant demon.
@@WhiskeyTango76s Sadly, there is nothing like that in WoW now for about 10 years already. Blizzard (or really, Activision, Blizzard is long dead) are out of ideas and turned WoW into a typical bordering korean grindfest MMO, which old fans are not fond of, hence why they are finally bringing back classic.
Someone noted this Corrupted Blood event as similar to what's happening with the coronavirus. Its incredible how accurate this all is to viruses and flus
are you serious? It was the beginning, showing players they could actually have fun in the game... this video title is pure clickbait... like holy shit :( i used to like this channel... At least it's not exactly 10:00 in length i guess...
Holy shit, so the player base essentially created a field hospital, a security/quarantine detail, and an investigation group, and the cherry on top, their own bio-terrorist group.
"'It's never been designed to mirror reality or anything in the real world....' Okay, guys, I'm done giving my quote for the press. Now let's get back on our project of consulting experts in the field of gambling psychology so we can make our game as addicting as possible."
What sort of gambling is there in WoW? The only gambling I saw when I played was designed entirely by players, without the game itself actually having any mechanics for it.
You also seem to forget that blizz also let's economist run experiments with the AH. Wow's AH economy is actually a pretty accurate simulation to real world economies in some ways. (Probably because they brought in actual economist to fix the early AH)
You know what would be cool, if an MMO had a disease system that recorded what people's characters came down with and granted random immunities to certain diseases, or immunities to diseases that they have successfully overcome without dying!
A Tale in The Desert had a plague that caused permadeath to players who caught it after a certain amount of time. It was up to the players in the servers to create a cure. It was by design. And a lot of players hated it. There were supposed rumors that the devs wanted to create an immunity system for the game. Seeing how the players reacted to it, it seems that was scrapped.
Diseases don't work like that. I think you mean viruses, and even then it only works with some, and even then they can mutate, or you can remain a carrier.
@@albertamalachi3560 First off, not all the diseases would have to be fatal. They could be a nuisance, and players being players, I'm sure that they would come up with ways to use the diseases to their benefit. Some bacterium keep other bacterium or even fungi in check, and vice a versa. Hence, how penicillin works, or doesn't work as effectively anymore... Secondly, If I made an MMO, permadeath would be possible, but hard to accomplish and would be shunned by the game system. Archeage had/has an interesting judicial system run by the players. If someone killed another player they left evidence of their theft or murder at the scene of the crime that others could document and report, causing that player's "arrest" and trial. I believe if someone killed someone of their own faction, and did not serve their time, or broke out of jail, they can become factionless pirates... :P Players were called for jury duty and were teleported to the trial to hear out the evidence for or against them, and then voted guilty or not... It never happened to me, but I think it was even possible to bribe the jurors :P
Wow, that’s actually friggin’ amazing. I’ve never played Warcraft but I know a little about the lore(very little compared to the large amount it has) but if this isn’t part of the lore then it needs to be, this is too great to be just treated as an accident and forgotten.
I was there for the plague incident, is funny it all happened by accident. Man Iron Forge was littered with skeletons the first time i was infected i was low lvl and i couldnt figure out why i died just went to the Auction House in Iron Forge. Took about 2 deaths to figure out that it was the plague.
I'm reading a manga right now where the MC has been fused with his character in an MMO (yeah, yeah, standard trope is standard). The interesting thing is that he and his mates at the top of the leaderboards created a role play where his character conquers the world (and using his character's stats and the game's systems actually does) and his mates have to raise a resistance army out of the other players and retake the world. The really cool thing about it is that the game actually wrote that role play into the lore via the devs. The Tyrany of Mafahl (my name) became canon. It was a really cool idea from a player's perspective. Imagine this WoW thing becoming a series of codex entries and random books detailing the stressful life inside the quarantines, the selfless vigil of the town guards working tirelessly to prevent others from suffering from the plague, and the handful of heroes that ventured directly into danger in order to bring peace and safety back to the world they loved.
I was playing during this event, I always watch videos on it when they come up. Ah the memories , I was one who helped out in the ways a warrior such as myself could. This included guiding people to the healers if there were unlucky to get the debuff and tracked some of the people trying to keeping the plague goin by taking it out of the cities. As each server was its own ecosystem back then it really showed on a realm by realm scale who was there to keep the world safe. I love this game even though it might be in a rough spot now.
This is true dedication to a game. These people stayed and tried to heal their world. How many game communities would stay and protect their virtual world from such a dangerous plague?
That's essentially the same way the CDC looked at it. It was pretty close to a microcosm of what you see in the real world. Blizz may try to distance themselves from it, but their intent had nothing to do with the end result, it was kind of the perfect storm.
@@Anaphriel yeah, i was surprised at how realistic the whole community reacted to this wierd, unintentional plague.... i also laughed my ass off when Simon read blizzard's response.
It is an excellent 'social' experiment; however, it's in the digital world where real world social accountability is devoid so it will never mimic or reveal how 'real life' works. It may however reveal that human players who know that there are zero repercussions for their actions will have fun with it. In reality I tend to isolate (quarantine) myself when I get ill, however in the game (knowing that I'm not killing anyone) I may be tempted (and was) to help spread this fictitious plague, bring a raid boss to Stormwind, or bomb the auction house with my warlock. It's a game kids. Not real life.
Booty Warrior same here. I’ve never played it. I also felt like I was watching/reading Ready Player One. I MADE my wife watch that south park episode a year ago. One of the best they did and that is saying a lot I think.
+Pedantic Pete : I’ve played the game for many years and I have to agree, SP episode was hysterical!!!! Some of the jokes are best understood by a WoW player. Hahahaha The guy with no gear one shotting everyone and using pyroblast and other spells that didn’t fit the same class was a stretch; but added to the humor of the episode. Hahahaha
Neat. I played wow hardcore for a couple years and never heard about this until now. Sounds like a good time but given how much more important cities were back then it probably made the game near unplayable
I played back then. I remember the debuff in Orgrimmar, but don't remember it being anything other than kind of funny. You could definitely still play the game.
I was the same way. I started at Beta and quit after about 18 months. I started up again about a year ago but haven't played much in the past 6 months. I missed this who event but heard about it.
Well Darnassus and Thunderbluff tended to be pretty safe from the plague due to they're remoteness hardly any players there but man ORG and IF were death traps. SW was almost as bad but this was before every city had a AH so the only places you could go on the AH were ORG for Horde and IF for Alliance. The safest AH was in Booty Bay but there was hardly anything on it though. But man it was a great time.
Amazing, I have played WoW for a good while and never knew about that! Also I could totally use Lumerit right about now so yay for Simon and the sponsor! :D
Not_Demonai_Warrior I was there when this happened and it was a very fun thing. Most ppl thought it was an event and it was funny to be apart of, while frustrating at times it’s one of my fondest memories of the game.
+Styx : Probably because the game has been beyond horrible since WoLK. That was the last decent expansion. 😉 BfA is a screwed up mess, but not as bad as WoD.
I like the fact that even though the creators of WoW maintain it is a game, the humans playing it showed extreme ingenuity. They also showed a cross section of society and what people do when in a given situation. And I think that there are people who are interested in indulging in Humanity's darker side (though prevented in the real world by societal proscriptions). On the other hand, there are those who stay true to themselves, and some who choose a more righteous path using tools they don't have in real life. To wit: the grassroots efforts of the population to contain the plague and each specialty stepping up and doing what they could to stem the tide. And the ones who stood guard warning others off, I think were most noble. They were kept away from the plague, they stayed where they were away from being infected as if by sniper attack, and they might also be receiving some recompense, like a few coins or strength points for staying there, which is certainly better than almost certain death. I'll bet if a study were done about the lower level players that survived as plague guards, they might have gotten a significant increase in characteristics ranks over their vigil.
To be fair a lot of people who would spread the plague found it fun because it was an annoyance but without any real consequences for the victims aside from some gear repair fees. When it comes to a real life pathogen, there wouldn't be nearly as many people intentionally spreading it
@@ShaunDreclin dont be so sure, if you have one person who is an immune carrier and they know it, they might intentionally infect others just like how some people who know they have aids will spread it anyway despite the dangers.
@@samsadowitz1724 I think they identified one person who was intentionally spreading HIV and arrested him for it. I'm not sure if it was true or if he didn't know he had it and was a scapegoat. But this was a different person, I think, than the one they traced to have brought it to the US.
@@ginnyjollykidd it only makes sense that the person to have brought it to the states would be different from the one they found to have allegedly spread the disease intentionally. Thats just how pathogens work. I was mainly referring to how its illegal in some states to spread aids intentionally and how those kinds of laws usually come around because someone has done it.
@@ginnyjollykidd interesting fact intentionally infecting someone with HIV/AIDS is no longer a felony in California and there is a website that revolves around infecting people with diseases like its their fetish or something...
The world is reacting like the common player. USA is reacting like those morons keeping the plague alive, all the while trying to steal the credit of the common player.
Been playing WoW since December 04 and lived through this. It was... interesting... to say the least. Next, read up about the pre-patch undead plague that Blizzard did about a month before the release of Wrath of the Lich King. Wanna talk about a catastrophe!
@@TheLostBear78 I will say that it was pretty interesting as an idea. The only problem was that these two incidents show what happens to a gaming nerd when they can't play their game. I don't know how I didn't blow up and lose my mind during both of these, but I was a raider and was usually out in the world grinding for raid buffs.
you talking about the holloween zombie plague? That was fun. Summon your friends and infect them. It got so bad if one of your guildies called you just told them too bad
Not the same but hunter class players also used to be able to kite a demon from an area south of stormwind and then it would throw a damage over time on everything around it. It was a mini plauge but npcs were if i recall correctly immune to even receiving the dot
A similar incident occurred in late 2008, but it was implemented intentionally as a pre-expansion event. It was a debuff that would eventually turn you into an undead ghoul if it wasn't cleansed. As the event progressed, the debuff became shorter, causing people to die faster. It was utter chaos and a lot of fun.
Now that World of Warcraft: Classic is out, it might happen again. The game has changed a lot over its 15 years, and Classic is a return to the original version. Although Blizzard haven't said if they would allow the Corrupted Blood to return.
This video is so much more relevant now with COVID-19. a video game needed to deal with it and even there. Social distancing and quarantine is how they controlled it in the end. While video games are no reality - there are times where life imitates art and sadly, this is exactly true now.
How did NPCs spread it? Did you have to talk to them or just walk near them? Edit 10 seconds seems like an incredibly short time to be able to spread anything
@James Newton : It spread by being nearby, so yes. It only takes one tick to infect you. Just be in range of someone infected and you got it. Think necrotic plague with LK. Same thing. Just a long time ago in WoW history. 😉
This was before realm transfers were terribly common, so it's not that players were spreading the plague from server to server. There were multiple patient zero events, one for each faction, and for each Realm where the Corrupted Blood Plague took hold.
I was on Archimonde during this time. I was in a guild called Allied Rapid Response, our primary goal was hunting horde who invaded allied lands. During the Corrupted Blood incident we organized with a counterpart guild to hunt down those intentionally spreading the infection.
Yeah but it only spread that much cause characters can respawn, in reality it would burn out really quick because of it's deadliness. It was designed for the Hakkar the Soulflayer encounter, Hakkar randomly drained player characters of their blood, when he would drain a infected character, he would take damage. The Reason that it was so deadly is because the damage numbers the character took was fixed. While high tier players, who contracted the plague in the first place, could easily regenerate the amount of hitpoints when out of combat, the amount of damage was deadly to the lower level players.
They also address that in the video (not directly tho) that the diseade would have burnt itself quickly once most infected people in the cities had died. However the few invulnerable NPCs who existed in the cities would also get infected and act like asymptomatic carriers that reignited the plague once they entered in contact with the population again.
Yeah but healing classes: like priests had also the ability to purge the affliction. Also in Classic WoW you still could see all the buffs and debuffs on a characters portrait so finding them is not a problem.
I think you're also not accounting for the fact that in real life, a city would have far more people and that's a lot more people could become infected. Also unlike the game, it's unlikely that the disease would kill somebody within a matter of 10 seconds. It might take hours, days, or even longer, creating a much better opportunity to spread the infection
It accurately reflected real life. The invulnerable NPCs represent carriers. Although probably not as many as real life in such a small confined area, still, carriers none the less. The "instant death" of lower level plays can reflect children and those especially susceptible to diseases and death. So although the rate of death would've been far faster than real life, it can still be used as a study tool. Those who are sick already can easily spread it much like gastro on a plane. Sometimes you hear cases of cruises or planes being quarantined because 1 person went on without knowing they had a highly contagious disease.
I already wanted to comment "When people handle a pandemic better in a computer game than in real life" and then came "a small but equally as dedicated subsection of players [...] actively resisted Blizard's attempts to eradicate the plague" - difference is in real life that happens mostly because of ignorance and stupidity
@@davidblaine6213 you can overdose on water does humor exist as a way to cope with the oddity of life The Sun, our local star, that is helpful but still so dangerous our power comes from suff underground, its just down there and they hoovered it up
The fact that the players reacted like that is crazy. Higher levels looking for clues, lower levels standing guard, and healers being doctors. Never played this game but that seems cool af
fun fact: back then i was upkeeping the forum guild list for my whole server at the time so i was known on both sides. because of this and my being a member of the top horde guild i was asked to help coordinate between horde and alliance top raiding guilds to try to form "raids" on the enemy cities so that they could kill the infected npcs and guards that the players of that faction couldnt. however it didnt start until near the end so we werent able to help much. but it was neat to try and organize.
I remember this going down. I was in a guild that helped set up a quarantine in Orgrimmar. Even though we all kept dying to plague, it was one of the best things I’ve spent time doing in WoW.
PrimeTimePickle a sign that people can work together
@@Warune1 you sir are a hero
@@CultoftheCrow2.0 thank you man. Though it was the other side that asked for help and the idea formed. I just helped facilitate it...not like we ever got to find out if it woulda worked. Probably not with all the terrorist cells.
Players: wow what a cool world event
Blizzard: oh god oh god oh god everyone's dying!!!!!!
When QA is not done and the programmer doesnt test their code
I'm dead 😋😊🤣🤣 that was sooo on point for my thoughts
@@PEZ1514 Seems like they did test their code. Just that they did not think about pets...
Testing usually is just as good as the tests you do...
@@PEZ1514 Testing? I don't always test my code, but when I do, I do it in production.
Incredible! Blizzard's delayed response and failed attempts to eradicate the plague, despite having near-omnipotent power, accurately simulated government laziness and incompetence. All that's missing is the followup production of an ineffective, intellect-lowering vaccine which randomly curses recipients accompanied by a propaganda campaign from Blizzard that it's "safe and effective".
I played when this happened and what made this so crazy is that nobody knew wtf was going on lol. UA-cam and other forms of social media weren't a thing back then, so the lack of information is what made this so much worse. I was told to NOT login by a guildmate because "death was here." This just peaked my curiosity and I asked him to explain, and him being a role player, he role played the shit out of it by saying, "my time is short, I am already infected. Stay away from the major cities. Raid night is cancelled until the cleansing takes place." Within seconds of logging in I got infected... and died. There were players trying to revive as many as possible and dispel the debuff and telling them where the "safe zones" were located. Enemies from the other faction were tasked with finding and killing infected players to curve the infection rate. High level players were boosting groups of lower levels to stop them from hitting a progression wall and to keep the flow of the game going. At the time it wasn't anything special, but looking back... it was crazy to see strangers in a video game handle a pandemic better than people 15 years into the future.
Maybe it is because Gamers already understand themselves as a Community?
@@albussr1589 gotta be.
Yeah, but it was in game 'terrorists' who spread the plague in the first place by purposely infecting their pets.
@@shadowninja6689 This is not known. They may very well have figured that no way would it have caused this, entered town, ran through it like 10000 times before...and never looked back. It's easy to lay blame.
same I remember when played it was only dead corps I was a low level back then and so I created I a quarantine you wanted how I knew about the corrupted blood well my friends were big levels and then they told me about it so then I created quarantine and there was like 50 people. But then people started raiding my quarantine i had to move places 3 times and then we had placed where they didn't know where. And I almost got the corrupted blood it was when people were raiding my quarantine.
I remember this, I remember a Tauren shaman and a undead priest trying to keep us alive and removing the debuff in a small area. And telling us to head to Stranglethorn or desolace to avoid the plague
Dan Ortiz stranglethorn didn’t have the plague?
@@CLSGL less players in those areas
imagine having to go to desolace tho
I remember being in Desolace because I had such a weird leveling curve. And all of a sudden the population of the region went from 1, me, to like 3 or 4 dozen people. As a rogue, I didn't really know or care about the other people and I just kinda went on my merry way occasionally seeing players who were actively avoiding anyone. I only found out about the plague from people who would region wide chat about it. So I can say definitively that I survived the Blood Plague.
And desolace was never populated again. Except for me who weirdly went there to lvl and enjoyed some amazing peace and quiet.
I vaguely remember this. If I remember my Alliance Hunter barely survived when I approached both Goldshire and Stormwind and someone shouted for me to leave immediately. From a distance you could see a red mist from the groups of infected people of all races huddled together trying to keep from infecting other people while every now and then youd find some jackass sprinting at unafflicted people attempting to spread it. It was absolutely mental.
Damn, i've heard about this plague a long time ago and i'm pretty interested in it, never thought something like this could happen in a game, even an MMO, ¿How long did it last?
The only thing more fun than that incident was the zombie plague of Halloween 2011. Becoming a zombie then running to a town infecting people when you blew up...
@@TallifTallonbrook I downloaded the game on 2015 and just layed it for a few weeks, so unfortunately i didn't even knew about these incidents, i was planning on downloading it and start playing again, but my PC's not that good :T
I quit at kunfu pandas and killing the talent trees
Pretty sure Goldshire just gave you STD’s instead lol jk
When I logged in, my guild immediately told me in guild chat where to go to avoid the plague. It was in the large cities, and some smaller ones too. I ended up camping at the edge of the "world" on a mountain peak, and stayed there until they patched the game. Which is a whole story on its own.
So you went with the get as far from ground zero as possible route. The equivalent of heading to the mountains or the dessert in the real world
"High level players went into cities to try and find clues while healers healed others with the plague and low levels staid out of the city warning others not to enter"
I'm so proud of this community
I thought that was cool as hell. I've never played WoW, but I am very impressed by the stories of people trying to help during the Blood Plague. I think when Blizzard released that statement regarding it being just a game, they kind of gave players who responded to this by setting up quarantines, healing other players and trying to find solutions, short shrift. Players acted with real concern and thought to a virtual problem and they acted in a way that tells us a lot about human psychology, both the good and the bad sides of it.
Lava Pro *hangs head in shame* i was one of the ones trying to keep it going. LOL.
Yup sure love the toxic WoW community lmao
@@Sam-pr9rr this was in 2005. Different time for WoW
You couldn't heal it off. It spread like crazy. You heal one and you get it again.
I like how the players adapted to this so well, literally quarantining themselves, the powerful ventering out to gather clues.
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Jee it's like SOME people could learn from World of Warcraft
This aged like fine wine.
How convinient
Little did I know....
I was waiting for Simon to mention COVID 19 or Coronavirus, then I glanced down at the date. Nice video.
The date is exactly why I watched THIS video. The deadliness is not even comparable.
Dude, people actually helped other players quarantine. Thats cool, because it doesn't always happen on online games. To all World Of Warcraft players who did this, thank you for the kindness.
it's weird how the comunity has changed. if some thing like this happened in the game now ... well people would just complain and flood the game forums about the game being broken.
YEah... thank you for helping people through the plaguet that the higher level players started to begin with.. WOW players are some of the biggest cunts ever. I fucking hate this game just because of the fanatics and the trolls within the general player base ruin it. Plus most apparently have never heard of soap.
Pfft the fuck you talking about ? The WOW community has always been shit even in 2004-2005 and times were actually slightly better back then as a whole too.
Yes thank you, you’re all a bunch of heroes. WW2 vets have nothing on you.
@@hailervin "Only a small community were actually terrorists," dude. Explain that.
As a WoW player since Vanilla, I'm familiar with this event but the second half of this video is all news to me. Kudos for finding more information than just "there was a plague, the end."
I played since the start for a long time. I guess it never managed to get onto the European servers as I don't remember this event at all.
@Java Monsoon we did have the baron bomber
Java Monsoon the story gets better each time because it’s exaggerated more each time it’s told.
I was really little (2 years old) when this happened but I still clearly remember my dad logging in to WoW and having his character immediately *die* while he sat there and had a pure look of "what the heck just happened" on his face.
@lcyw20 probably because my dad isn't one to get really angry but the aftermath of this made him quite upset..
Sorry but a 2 year old wouldn’t remember their dad playing world of Warcraft lmao
@@pizzelle2they might of the memory was reinforced by watching your dad play the game through multiple years and talking about the event later on the childhood.
Dark Souls: "Our bosses kill the most players"
WoW: Blood God: "Hold my plague"
A decent game of Plague Inc in wow
This was 2008? Souls series hadn't started yet. Demon's Souls came out in 2009.
“Hold my plague.” Clever double meaning there. 😄
*To the Millions, and beyond*
Edit: forgot to add a "This didn't age well comment.".
I remember this. I would be one of those lower level ppl standing guard outside a City telling ppl to stay away. We actually had a Script to read from that Higher Level players created to tell the ppl to stay away. We even got paid later on. not with Gold. but with Help leveling up and help with gear and weapon stats to find the best type of gear.
@Adam Osak Or you could grow up and learn to live your own life instead of feeling the need to criticise others for how they choose to live theirs. You know, since it's none of your fucking business.
And for all you know, they DO volunteer at those places. People who play WoW do have lives outside of that, you realise?
Well with talk like that you must be super community service driven, you shouldn'tfeel the need to talk down about someone who was just telling people about something Related to the video
Wow.... that's amazing considering it only lasted about 10 hours.... I call BS
Adam Osak . You could take your own advice instead of trying to talk down to others.
@Adam Osak shitting on people on UA-cam is not fullest existence either, chief.
The fact that a bunch of gamers had a better pandemic response than major world governments is baffling
Gamers are very logical.
@@movieman175 + they care more about their community than most governments.
As someone who was there. I had no clue what was going on. But I figured out from people it was a disease debuff... as a resto shaman I felt required to just stand outside orgrimmar and spam cure disease on anyone coming out of the city.
This video is pretty misleading.. When most people at max lvl are in the cities, they're socialising or waiting for something to do.. When this happened it wasn't players trying to save people, it was fun and funny to be apart of.. And a major wtf is happening. And trying to lock down a city was a bit of roleplay/and basically a server wide event to be apart of. You lose nothing on death, so death is just an inconvienence. Was still insane to log in and see the entire group covered in death though!
Pride is a dangerous sin.
I’m just impressed that the healing characters set up a triage and quarantine zone.
That sounded so awesome
White people, amirite?
more reason to you know, respect your healers
All it would take would be a high player count guild to set up quarantines and people being people would either fallow or ignore. But it's impressive that a game of world of warcraft people set up Quarantine zones to keep the low-level players from constantly dying.
Juan Chavez
I know, this story kind of blew my mind.
That was kinda cool how the community set out to warn others as well as sending in some high level players to investigate the cause of the plague
(Having not played wow) i'm guessing playing quarantine control and detective was a nice change of pace of the usual fetch quests and dungeon raids.
@@onyxguardian1756 For about a day. It was more like a week on many servers. You just had to do tons of quests or roll an alt so that you're in some random zone for the most part that week. Or, you know, go outside or something.
Wasn't like that on my server (horde side atleast). Any low levels who didn't want to deal with the plague went to the Barrens and grinded or went on dungeon runs. The NPCs were spread out enough that even if a town got bombed, it died out pretty quick. I mean the plague had a timer(not permanent), and would only refresh on a npc if another infected came in.
Everyone else? Had amusement in bombing alliance everything. Our horde were dicks to alliance cause there were so many alliance gankers in neutral towns for the longest. Also they bombed us first, so we just constantly train bombed them as revenge. I think the best was bombing Ironforge and the Night Elf island. Kinda hard to get in, impossible to get out. Yeah I died alot. I just went naked cause fuck gear repair costs.
WoW, CDC DLC confirmed!
@@zetsumeinaito Haha that's hilarious
4:15 that moment when people do volunteering to save lives putting in danger their own ... in a videogame.
Then again it's kinda interesting as a social experiment.
Say hi to your grocery boy for me.
Patient zero was almost certainly Leroy.
Goddammit Leeroy
At least I have chicken.
"It's not my fault"
Hugo hugoturbo Jenkins
Leroy Jenkins will live on forever.
I have never played WoW, so hearing in a game where players can get infected players with a disease is something really mindblowing to me. Never thought of a game mechanic that's that realistic in a fantasy game before.
it'd be kinda cool if another mmo did that as a special event, and had some rewards like fetching an antidote and some loot in the middle of a big infected zone. the stuff they mentioned about parties going out with healers to figure out what was going on, and setting up quarantine zones...sounds pretty neat
They did have a world event for the pre launch of Wotlk were it was basically people would spread a plague that would turn you into a ghoul, it was really awesome and it progressed as it got closer to release. Towards the end they had NPC priest that would dispell the debuff in major cities, at the start the cities were a death zone.
SWTOR got the rakghoul plague.
"disease" is just dressing up the word "debuff" that players actually use. It's just a negative status effect you get from an enemy. In this case a hard-hitting debuff that, when it got out of the raid area it should've never gotten out of, killed the low level players. The debuff itself isn't very interesting but the way it got out of the raid is, and I'm surprised at how long it took Blizzard to respond, they certainly could've reset the server at any point, but that's usually the most dire method. No one likes having their hard-earned progress reset.
@@SpydersByte to be fair in reality a disease falls under the definition of debuff
Corrupted Blood: Hey Covid-19, wanna do this in the real world?
Covid-19: yeah sure
Bruhhh big fax all the way my brodda
No where near the same thing. If they were we would already be dead.
14000 years ago Velber-03 simultaneously attacked both the virtual moon cell and the planet earth
Dude we handled a fucking game plague that was deadlier even better than the real life pandemic, kinda depressed now.
so then were are all the bodies and make shift cemeteries? there are none because its a normal year of flu influenced by the world media.
I was playing that day.
Kept running back in to heal people until we realized something was very off.
Total confusion. It was the best time we had playing WoW.
As unintended as it was, perhaps they should have left that accident in the game and just patched in methods for players to actually cure the npcs and halt plagues. It was a very interesting time.
As unintended as it was, perhaps they should have left that accident in the game and just patched in methods for players to actually cure the npcs and halt plagues. It was a very interesting time.
they should do it again in Classic WoW
@@mcsmedia8081 That would make players leave the game for good.
i love the thought of players starting to act like in a real world community with quaranteening people, those who could would heal others, organizing guards who'd give out warnings, brave souls who'd investigate. it's oddly heart warming
LMFAO there was a little tear in my eyes lol and more after your post lol actually lol
Blizzard:*adds a plauge into the game*
Plauge:*spreads*
Blizzard: wait no
I lost my parents to that plague
I'm sorry for your loss. What classes were they ?
i guess they disinherited you after spending so much time in WoW
your family is from moonguard isn't it
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I didn't play during the Corrupted Blood incident, but I did play during the WotLK pre-launch event that did basically the exact same thing except it was deadlier, turned the player into a zombie after they died which could infect other players, and it was intentional this time around. It was super cool. If I remember right they made the plague progressively deadlier where I think at first you just caught the plague and that was it, but after awhile it started to kill you and you became undead. This devastated capital cities to the point where players created quarantine zones similar to those mentioned in the video and high level characters would offer escort services to low level characters that needed to use one of the NPC services or travel points within the city. This was necessary as the cities were crawling with player and NPC undead. I remember I had a shaman escorting me through Stormwind so I could get to Ironforge and there were skeletons EVERYWHERE. Sadly she didn't make the run and was killed by the undead while making an opportunity for me to book it to the tram. In the ten or so years I've played WoW, that WotLK event was by far the most memorable thing to happen in the game.
I kept trying to infect the Ally leaders with the zombie plague, but I never could get close enough. I'd get attacked by a guard, who could get infected, but then that guard would lose their elite status so they could easily be killed by the uninfected guards. Spoiled everything. 😄
Can we start a campaign to have a statue erected to shaman lady? RIP 2004-2008
BEST. PRE-LAUNCH. EVENT. EVER! To bad Blizzard caved to the crybabies and stopped it early.
I was a paladin during that and I held the line with a couple other pallys in orgrimar. Gorefiend , hord ftw!
@@aldooze I was a priest and I was helping to cleanse and fight zombie players haha
Ok, I just stumbled across this during the corona virus pandemic and I am utterly gobsmacked how closely this online event is currently matching reality. Big WTF right now.... 😳
Pretty disappointing how people behave more like scumbags irl than in a video game. Ther weren't any ignorant ass "lockdown protests" in wow
I find it interesting that apparently there's always going to be section of the population who will spread it, either out of sheer ignorance or malice.
@@grimwatcher or genetics. Viruses are one of the primary evolutionary forces, idiocy may be phenotypical for a reason lol
Wow, it's funny how realistic this scenario was.
People are just people. Human behavior doesn't significantly change just because the venue is different.
🤔
@@TGNXAR Yeah... the point was how surprising it is that unintended consequences of code, on top of everything else mimicked a real world pandemic, not just human behavior. Besides which, if this happened to me I'd stop playing the game, but it sounds like people kept playing in spite of everything.
the CDC actually studied it as a realistic model for a real world pandemic.
@@TGNXAR thank you. That was a point I was going to say. There are real people playing so there should be an expectation of an organic response.
*Scientist:* This is interesting and potentially valuable situation
*Players in this comment section:* It sounds kinda cool and interesting/I was there, our guilds worked together, was one of the best times I had
*Blizzard:* No, no, no, stop it, you're ruining it, it's not helpful and stop having fun.
Also Blizzard: That's not how you are supposed to play, shut it down!
@Grey Hood I can just imagine Sheldon quitting because everyone is having fun wrong lol
They even turned down the CDC’s request to see the data because “it’s just a bug” considering what’s happening now with the current outbreak that was a bad decision
Blizzard is tempted to repeat another event, this time a zombie invasion. currently alive on their test servers, the zombies are any bio terrorist's wet dream.
Blizzard was really showing how Chinese they were even then
I remember logging in and seeing the floor littered with dead bodies.
Was fun.
Wish they add more stuff like this in WoW now it would be so much fun.
I hope you don’t own any firearms, bro
When you accidentally make a more historically accurate game than EA or Activision can
Blizzard is owned by Activision
@@Birch12430 Wasn't at the time.
@@Jonra1 It was owned by Vivendi at the time. Blizzard has not been an indy company since 1994.
2005-2007 was a different time. Battlefield 2 was the most insane FPS ever and you had COD3 and COD4 right next to that. Use to go to a gaming cafe to play wow and cs:s
When you accidentally make a more historically accurate _fantasy_ game than EA or Activision can
I remember walking into Ironforge auction house, the floor carpeted with skeletons, and players dying over and over. Ahh, good time...
Nothing out of the ordinary, then.
Well hello to you to Sheogorath
This has a whole new meaning now
I really like hearing about these emergent situations in MMO games. Perhaps episodes on some of the warring & plotting in EVE Online would be of interest.
Wasn't there one guy who took over a fleet worth thousands of real dollars and then instantly suicided, destroying it all?
@@ShaunDreclin One? Nawh. Happens all the time.
I would like a video done on the banker of eve who gained months of trust from his clients and then stole all their money nd built a gigantic ship to tell them to try to take their money back
But that sounds immensely entertaining and interesting. A game specifically designed to goad people into finding the best way to fuck with everyone around you and make them cry
Judgement Day? Pog
*reads title*
"That time a plague nearly killed everyone in World..."
*Opens video*
"...of Warcraft"
*HOLDS UP USB STICK WITH BOTH HANDS*
awww
Incredible! Blizzard's delayed response and failed attempts to eradicate the plague, despite having near-omnipotent power, accurately simulated government laziness and incompetence. All that's missing is the followup production of an ineffective, intellect-lowering vaccine which randomly curses recipients accompanied by a propaganda campaign from Blizzard that it's "safe and effective".
@@dowskivisionmagicaloracle8593 Wow- person you keep copy and pasting the exact same BS lol... you seem to A. hate Blizzard B. not understand how the internet works. and C. not understand medicine and science... You do get that the doctor that 'proved' vaccines dangerous lost his medical license? That for every 'study' about dangerous vaccines that they're not from credible places, and that there're are at least 5 CREDIBLE studies from actual doctors and scientists PROVING them safe... learn to science.
+Mandi Blackwell Show me. The only thing your low IQ answer has CREDIBLY PROVED so far is that you've been heavily vaccinated.
WoW: blood plague
Real world: hold my corona
@@cars_with_monte they aren’t the same😅
‘Biological terrorist group hiding in the mountains releases weaponised virus in major cities, hospitals set up quarantine’
LmO
Umbrella!
@@DrTonyAce 21/4445
Y e a h
A b o u t t h a t
Some people just wanna watch the world burn
That's basically what happened. It was an interesting month.
Which universe did this Vsauce come from?
lol
Sauce sucks lol Simon’s way more G
@@rawmichigan3233 heathen
Blue Nucleus a little city called England
It’s British V sauce
*ITS B SAUCE*
Plot twist: We are in a simulated reality, and programmers are watching the Earth server as the Corona virus spreads, hoping that they can use the information to model a "real world" situation.
True. Life is just an episode of Black Mirror
Fun Fact: Scientists actually used this event to simulate the effects of both the Hakkar blood plague and how the player base responded to it.
Warcraft is a simulation inside a simulation.
Annnnnnnnd now I’m questioning my reality. Dammit
Yup
I worked at Blizzard the night this happened as a GM It was a nightmare. We had to despawn pets individually, regularly restart servers because the number of bodies, and lack of NPCs...anyway. The tickets were piling up as people got more and more upset, some over losing time, others because they were unaware of what was going on.
Zul’Gurub was a high end raid, the first 20 man, so people wanted to get in there, but it was for some, prohibitively gear intensive. Whelp, hopefully they didn’t just chunk the old code back in for Vanilla WoW, and have Blood Plague 2.0 (or one of its many less kind names. It had a lot.).
I'll buy 'stories that aren't true' for 300
Why not just code the plage out? Neutralize it?
Tons of players had been doing the exact same thing for months prior with Baron Geddon's Living Bomb ability. I don't know how Blizzard didn't realize that Corrupted Blood wouldn't have the same exploit.
@@1TW1-m5i GMs are player moderators, not coders. They have a few special powers, can ban people, can generate items or cash from thin air, in some cases access administrative server commands to force status changes on entities or reboot the server, etc
A coded solution removing that status effect from the game is something the devs would have to do. And they'd have to do it carefully, since just commenting out the code for the status effect would leave everyone with it suffering from an undefined effect, which needs some kind of error handling to tell the servers "no, this is fine, just delete the status effect." Programs with undefined things being referenced tend to crash spectacularly if you don't tell them how to deal with it gracefully.
Point being, a coded solution takes time. Meanwhile you've got a game spanning many multiplayer servers hosting several million paying customers who you need to keep calm and continue to deliver some version of the service they've paid for. That's what the GMs are stuck doing while the devs are working on their permanent fix. Speaking as a much smaller scale moderator partly responsible for the well being of just one server (different game) with only 60 or so players, dealing with confrontational players sucks. It's rare for me, which is usually the goal of any moderation team, but when a shitstorm like the blood plague hits, yeah, some people are going to be pissed. Especially since Blizzard handled the PR on it so poorly.
@@buster7797 Because he is to stupid to understand, that a GM has nothing to do with game development °L°
Wow. I never would have thought the WoW community was so tight knit that they quarantined themselves to keep from harming the rest of the community. I am impressed. I learned something again suuuweet. Thanxs for sharing Mr Simon. An informative video as always. Much appreciated
@D.J. Count VamPony : You wouldn’t think so if you were reading trade for very long. Hahaha
@@sisterspooky Guess I was lucky. I played while alot a good while back & never had any trade issues that I can remember.
@D.J. Count VamPony : The trolling in trade is hilarious. Problem is, you don’t get anyone really trading anything or helping anyone anymore. It’s just becoming a place to troll.
@@sisterspooky this is why we need cross-city general chat, so trade can actually be used for trading
The wow community have had weddings, birthday parties everything.
There's a great story of a funeral for a player that died and the horde had to form an army to block the passage way from the alliance to the funeral so it could go underway peacefully.
There's a video of it on UA-cam
UA-cam’s algorithm has a great sense of humor
Yes!!!
What is very interesting to me is the reactions to quarantined areas. No matter the obstacles and warnings placed to deter players they when to great lengths to break quarantine just to cause and further spread the infection. Many of these types of players simply did not believe what other players told them and just added to the character death toll. Many MANY conspiracies developed causing disbelief in gullible players and ultimately the player characters death, usually exacerbating the problem.
This is back in the internet days before many knew what "trolls" were. Oh the good old days. To think this game has been around that long is crazy
What's interesting to me about the Conspiracy theories, were the lengths to which players were going to prove their Conspiracy theory. There were a large number of people so set that the Plague was a fake that they were doing everything in their power to get into the cities, up to trying to fight their way in. On one of the servers, there was a dude who did nothing but stand outside IronForge and shout that the Plague was a myth and the city was perfectly safe.
Sort of like a digital anti-vax movement. Sigh.
@@Fitch93 Fight their way in? How? It's not like you can fight your own faction in WoW. There is also nothing that could stop them from going into the city, as it is a game and characters have no collision.
@@heavy-mouse9005 Through an agreement a large contingent of players made they had Chaos guarding the cities, specifically because they could fight people to keep them out.
SIMON- you ain't seen nothing until you have seen the Horde dragging a 20 foot tall demon to the alliance Capitol city of Stormwind to literally genocide every player and npc within 100 yards.
Damn I really need to start watching WoW let’s plays. I’d rather see it from the view of a random player though, not any of the people participating in it since that would ruin it for me.
Then the alliance began retaliating by bringing bosses into orgrimar to massacre the hordies
Dragon, actually. There was/is a world boss that popped up occasionally in the forest south of Stormwind, Darkwood? Something like that. I saw guys kiting it to SW one day.
@@douglasdea637 I think the dragon was deleted in Cataclysm, also IIRC it was not that dragon who was dragged into Stormwind, but Supreme Lord Kazzak from Blasted lands (he was there until BC and then was moved to Hellfire peninsula), who was indeed a giant demon.
@@WhiskeyTango76s Sadly, there is nothing like that in WoW now for about 10 years already. Blizzard (or really, Activision, Blizzard is long dead) are out of ideas and turned WoW into a typical bordering korean grindfest MMO, which old fans are not fond of, hence why they are finally bringing back classic.
Someone noted this Corrupted Blood event as similar to what's happening with the coronavirus. Its incredible how accurate this all is to viruses and flus
Yeah especially those people that keep breaking quarantine putting up a fight and continue spreading the damn virus.
It was nearly the end of the World
of Warcraft.
I had to scroll way too far down to find this comment. Expected it to be closer to the top.
Cant wait for this to come back in Vanilla WoW!
Hilarious…
are you serious? It was the beginning, showing players they could actually have fun in the game...
this video title is pure clickbait... like holy shit :( i used to like this channel... At least it's not exactly 10:00 in length i guess...
Voidroamer truly one of the most egregious lies told in the history of the World
Of Warcraft.
Having played wow since day 1, and still play daily 14 years later, I remember this clearly. It was a night-mare of epic proportions.
Every day? Damn, that’s dedication. There’s still stuff to do?
What level are you?
What was it like?
Psychotic Goat do you feel more prepared for covid due to this experience?
@@jessicascoullar3737 lol because he used to being inside? or because he was quarantined in the game back then?
Who is here during corona virus Pandamic....
the CDC and WHO should watch this and take a few notes
They did!
Just finished beating Warcraft 3 reforged while confined to my house and this came to mind.
Is "outside" real? I've heard rumors...
It's amazing how this gets back in my recommended list during this time.
Holy shit, so the player base essentially created a field hospital, a security/quarantine detail, and an investigation group, and the cherry on top, their own bio-terrorist group.
"'It's never been designed to mirror reality or anything in the real world....'
Okay, guys, I'm done giving my quote for the press. Now let's get back on our project of consulting experts in the field of gambling psychology so we can make our game as addicting as possible."
What sort of gambling is there in WoW? The only gambling I saw when I played was designed entirely by players, without the game itself actually having any mechanics for it.
@@EEYore-py1bf Rare item drop chances are technically an elaborate slot machine.
R E M O V E T I T A N F O R G I N G
At least microtransactions arent forced on ya to progress....or at least all microtransactions int he game can be earned by in game currency.
You also seem to forget that blizz also let's economist run experiments with the AH. Wow's AH economy is actually a pretty accurate simulation to real world economies in some ways. (Probably because they brought in actual economist to fix the early AH)
The fact that this is was discussed by this channel is amazing
And players were like "This is the end of the world... of warcraft"
WoW what a joke Izzy
South Park did it first!!!!
It's happening now.
I've gotta get home, my kids are playing world of warcraft right now!
You know what would be cool, if an MMO had a disease system that recorded what people's characters came down with and granted random immunities to certain diseases, or immunities to diseases that they have successfully overcome without dying!
A Tale in The Desert had a plague that caused permadeath to players who caught it after a certain amount of time. It was up to the players in the servers to create a cure.
It was by design.
And a lot of players hated it.
There were supposed rumors that the devs wanted to create an immunity system for the game. Seeing how the players reacted to it, it seems that was scrapped.
Diseases don't work like that. I think you mean viruses, and even then it only works with some, and even then they can mutate, or you can remain a carrier.
@@carbon1255 It wouldn't have to be a virus, and they wouldn't have to always be fatal, as to being a carrier... Perhaps... ;)
@@albertamalachi3560 First off, not all the diseases would have to be fatal. They could be a nuisance, and players being players, I'm sure that they would come up with ways to use the diseases to their benefit. Some bacterium keep other bacterium or even fungi in check, and vice a versa. Hence, how penicillin works, or doesn't work as effectively anymore...
Secondly, If I made an MMO, permadeath would be possible, but hard to accomplish and would be shunned by the game system. Archeage had/has an interesting judicial system run by the players. If someone killed another player they left evidence of their theft or murder at the scene of the crime that others could document and report, causing that player's "arrest" and trial. I believe if someone killed someone of their own faction, and did not serve their time, or broke out of jail, they can become factionless pirates... :P Players were called for jury duty and were teleported to the trial to hear out the evidence for or against them, and then voted guilty or not...
It never happened to me, but I think it was even possible to bribe the jurors :P
Alberta Malachi permadeath is bs if you have to pay to make characters
So just a practice run for essentially the whole of 2020, then?
They must have all gotten Lumbago. It's a very serious disease you know.
he cant stop, wont stop
I heard he has Ligma
Hi justin
Justin Y. Get out of here uncle
IT'S DEADLY, JOHN!
So, do I save this video to my playlist "Random Shit" or my other playlist "History" . . . ?
How about "Random History Shit"?
@@LulitaInPita Awwww man. I was about to make this exact same joke. Welp my hat goes off to you or it would if I wore one.
Yes
Yes
"the history of random shit"
People last year: wow that’s like the Black Plague
People now:that’s like now
That time, players thanks all healer player for their dedication. They heal non-stop resulting mana shortage.
And now we thank all grocers and doctors.
Wow, that’s actually friggin’ amazing. I’ve never played Warcraft but I know a little about the lore(very little compared to the large amount it has) but if this isn’t part of the lore then it needs to be, this is too great to be just treated as an accident and forgotten.
The awesomeness is gone now.
@@JoshSweetvale What, from WoW in general or the plague?
I was there for the plague incident, is funny it all happened by accident. Man Iron Forge was littered with skeletons the first time i was infected i was low lvl and i couldnt figure out why i died just went to the Auction House in Iron Forge. Took about 2 deaths to figure out that it was the plague.
I'm reading a manga right now where the MC has been fused with his character in an MMO (yeah, yeah, standard trope is standard). The interesting thing is that he and his mates at the top of the leaderboards created a role play where his character conquers the world (and using his character's stats and the game's systems actually does) and his mates have to raise a resistance army out of the other players and retake the world.
The really cool thing about it is that the game actually wrote that role play into the lore via the devs. The Tyrany of Mafahl (my name) became canon. It was a really cool idea from a player's perspective. Imagine this WoW thing becoming a series of codex entries and random books detailing the stressful life inside the quarantines, the selfless vigil of the town guards working tirelessly to prevent others from suffering from the plague, and the handful of heroes that ventured directly into danger in order to bring peace and safety back to the world they loved.
The latest raid has a boss that references it
During Coronavirus outbreak
UA-cam: Recommends this video
Me: *Sweating profusely*
I love reading peoples stories about their experience of this event in the comments! 😊
I love seeing that then it actually happening irl its crazy
Blizzard: "this is just a game..."
Players: "wHen wiLl you LeaRn, tHat yOur ActIonS hAve CoNseQueNces?!?!"
I was playing during this event, I always watch videos on it when they come up. Ah the memories , I was one who helped out in the ways a warrior such as myself could. This included guiding people to the healers if there were unlucky to get the debuff and tracked some of the people trying to keeping the plague goin by taking it out of the cities. As each server was its own ecosystem back then it really showed on a realm by realm scale who was there to keep the world safe. I love this game even though it might be in a rough spot now.
Incoming flood of wow players and blizzard fans with "you pronounced azeroth wrong!"
Everything was pronounced wrong, I don't think he was speaking Common.
@@MrSlosh
kek
@Jeff Y : kek 😂
Azeroth isn’t a kingdom RRRREEEEEEEEEEE
@@mathewmoulton5629
The Eastern Kingdoms were originally separated into 3 kingdoms. Lordaeron, Khaz Modan, and Azeroth.
i remember they would put infected into Goldshire inns cellar lol
Goolash I'm sure there are plenty of diseases being spread in Goldshire Inn.
@@Primalxbeast Virtual and otherwise...
This is true dedication to a game. These people stayed and tried to heal their world. How many game communities would stay and protect their virtual world from such a dangerous plague?
Sounds like asocial experiment to see how real life epidemic would work.
That's essentially the same way the CDC looked at it. It was pretty close to a microcosm of what you see in the real world. Blizz may try to distance themselves from it, but their intent had nothing to do with the end result, it was kind of the perfect storm.
@@Anaphriel yeah, i was surprised at how realistic the whole community reacted to this wierd, unintentional plague.... i also laughed my ass off when Simon read blizzard's response.
It is an excellent 'social' experiment; however, it's in the digital world where real world social accountability is devoid so it will never mimic or reveal how 'real life' works.
It may however reveal that human players who know that there are zero repercussions for their actions will have fun with it. In reality I tend to isolate (quarantine) myself when I get ill, however in the game (knowing that I'm not killing anyone) I may be tempted (and was) to help spread this fictitious plague, bring a raid boss to Stormwind, or bomb the auction house with my warlock.
It's a game kids. Not real life.
@@Dakktyrel false. Wow is real life
@@hemogoblin3076 It is now!
When I think of World of Warcraft I think of that South Park episode
Booty Warrior I liked Hello Kitty adventure more
"OH. MY. GOD. We're dealing with someone... who has no life."
Booty Warrior same here. I’ve never played it. I also felt like I was watching/reading Ready Player One. I MADE my wife watch that south park episode a year ago. One of the best they did and that is saying a lot I think.
+Pedantic Pete : I’ve played the game for many years and I have to agree, SP episode was hysterical!!!! Some of the jokes are best understood by a WoW player. Hahahaha
The guy with no gear one shotting everyone and using pyroblast and other spells that didn’t fit the same class was a stretch; but added to the humor of the episode. Hahahaha
Im gonna watch that episode now 😂
I started laughing out loud when Blizzard thought they had to explain that its just a game and not real terrorism hahaha.
The sad thing is they really had to explain, you can never underestimate the boomer mindset of "video games causes violence" and things of the like...
@@nopatiencejoe6376 yep! It’s just a game.
Neat. I played wow hardcore for a couple years and never heard about this until now. Sounds like a good time but given how much more important cities were back then it probably made the game near unplayable
I played back then. I remember the debuff in Orgrimmar, but don't remember it being anything other than kind of funny. You could definitely still play the game.
I was the same way. I started at Beta and quit after about 18 months. I started up again about a year ago but haven't played much in the past 6 months. I missed this who event but heard about it.
Well Darnassus and Thunderbluff tended to be pretty safe from the plague due to they're remoteness hardly any players there but man ORG and IF were death traps. SW was almost as bad but this was before every city had a AH so the only places you could go on the AH were ORG for Horde and IF for Alliance. The safest AH was in Booty Bay but there was hardly anything on it though. But man it was a great time.
Amazing, I have played WoW for a good while and never knew about that! Also I could totally use Lumerit right about now so yay for Simon and the sponsor! :D
Not_Demonai_Warrior I was there when this happened and it was a very fun thing. Most ppl thought it was an event and it was funny to be apart of, while frustrating at times it’s one of my fondest memories of the game.
+Styx : Probably because the game has been beyond horrible since WoLK. That was the last decent expansion. 😉 BfA is a screwed up mess, but not as bad as WoD.
+Not_Demonai_Warrior : Don’t forget pet bombs!!! Same stupid thing they allowed (that caused this incident). Can’t forget being nuked in the AH. lol
@@MrKingStyx swtor basically copied it for the rakghoul plague events.
Wait no never actually heard of the corrupted blood event?
People who think the plague glitch is fun.
Corona : Who's laughing now
This is why you don't summon a demon.
Kay
I like the fact that even though the creators of WoW maintain it is a game, the humans playing it showed extreme ingenuity. They also showed a cross section of society and what people do when in a given situation. And I think that there are people who are interested in indulging in Humanity's darker side (though prevented in the real world by societal proscriptions). On the other hand, there are those who stay true to themselves, and some who choose a more righteous path using tools they don't have in real life. To wit: the grassroots efforts of the population to contain the plague and each specialty stepping up and doing what they could to stem the tide.
And the ones who stood guard warning others off, I think were most noble. They were kept away from the plague, they stayed where they were away from being infected as if by sniper attack, and they might also be receiving some recompense, like a few coins or strength points for staying there, which is certainly better than almost certain death.
I'll bet if a study were done about the lower level players that survived as plague guards, they might have gotten a significant increase in characteristics ranks over their vigil.
To be fair a lot of people who would spread the plague found it fun because it was an annoyance but without any real consequences for the victims aside from some gear repair fees.
When it comes to a real life pathogen, there wouldn't be nearly as many people intentionally spreading it
@@ShaunDreclin dont be so sure, if you have one person who is an immune carrier and they know it, they might intentionally infect others just like how some people who know they have aids will spread it anyway despite the dangers.
@@samsadowitz1724
I think they identified one person who was intentionally spreading HIV and arrested him for it. I'm not sure if it was true or if he didn't know he had it and was a scapegoat. But this was a different person, I think, than the one they traced to have brought it to the US.
@@ginnyjollykidd it only makes sense that the person to have brought it to the states would be different from the one they found to have allegedly spread the disease intentionally.
Thats just how pathogens work. I was mainly referring to how its illegal in some states to spread aids intentionally and how those kinds of laws usually come around because someone has done it.
@@ginnyjollykidd interesting fact intentionally infecting someone with HIV/AIDS is no longer a felony in California
and there is a website that revolves around infecting people with diseases like its their fetish or something...
lol from 2020.
jfc, the players' response to the plague is better than the US with covid.
sadface...
The world is reacting like the common player. USA is reacting like those morons keeping the plague alive, all the while trying to steal the credit of the common player.
Its almost like he enjoys saying watch the world burn lol
"Lemme tell you a story Mahstah Bruce. . ."
I think he just likes watching the world learn.
"How do you kill that which has no life?" - Blizzard Employee
"This could be the end of the World...of Warcraft!"
Rewatching this in 2020.... "Some people want to watch the world... burn!"
me: experienced first hand.
6:11 is it just me, or does the picture of Nina H Pfefferman look like a still from a videogame? She looks CGI and so does the guy in the background.
yes, it does
thought that too
Same
Yup.
she looks like an elf
Been playing WoW since December 04 and lived through this. It was... interesting... to say the least. Next, read up about the pre-patch undead plague that Blizzard did about a month before the release of Wrath of the Lich King. Wanna talk about a catastrophe!
Na, that was fun as hell! Especially the cross faction chat it enabled
@@TheLostBear78 I will say that it was pretty interesting as an idea. The only problem was that these two incidents show what happens to a gaming nerd when they can't play their game. I don't know how I didn't blow up and lose my mind during both of these, but I was a raider and was usually out in the world grinding for raid buffs.
Except that was intentional compared to the corrupted blood incident
you talking about the holloween zombie plague? That was fun. Summon your friends and infect them. It got so bad if one of your guildies called you just told them too bad
The zombie-barf thing was fun, at first. Once people figured out how to use it aa a griefing tool it made that Belf island unplayable.
This has aged well
Not the same but hunter class players also used to be able to kite a demon from an area south of stormwind and then it would throw a damage over time on everything around it. It was a mini plauge but npcs were if i recall correctly immune to even receiving the dot
+Smiley McCabe : Kazaak.
Yeah, I remember that!
A similar incident occurred in late 2008, but it was implemented intentionally as a pre-expansion event. It was a debuff that would eventually turn you into an undead ghoul if it wasn't cleansed. As the event progressed, the debuff became shorter, causing people to die faster. It was utter chaos and a lot of fun.
Now that World of Warcraft: Classic is out, it might happen again.
The game has changed a lot over its 15 years, and Classic is a return to the original version. Although Blizzard haven't said if they would allow the Corrupted Blood to return.
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This video is so much more relevant now with COVID-19. a video game needed to deal with it and even there. Social distancing and quarantine is how they controlled it in the end. While video games are no reality - there are times where life imitates art and sadly, this is exactly true now.
Im crying because of the beautiful kindness and generosity of the players who helped other even though its just a game
I was there. I’m a survivor of the plague. AMA!
How did you survive?
ZGearbox_AT I evacuated on time lol
What are the numbers on your mum's card?
How did NPCs spread it? Did you have to talk to them or just walk near them?
Edit 10 seconds seems like an incredibly short time to be able to spread anything
@James Newton : It spread by being nearby, so yes. It only takes one tick to infect you. Just be in range of someone infected and you got it.
Think necrotic plague with LK. Same thing. Just a long time ago in WoW history. 😉
This was before realm transfers were terribly common, so it's not that players were spreading the plague from server to server. There were multiple patient zero events, one for each faction, and for each Realm where the Corrupted Blood Plague took hold.
I was on Archimonde during this time. I was in a guild called Allied Rapid Response, our primary goal was hunting horde who invaded allied lands. During the Corrupted Blood incident we organized with a counterpart guild to hunt down those intentionally spreading the infection.
This has aged interestingly ?!
Watching this today and I'm like... Does Blizzard know things we don't ?
We should learn from this in dealing with the coronavirus
Did and had. Shelter in place, maintain essential services to counter small-minded people.
@@JoshSweetvale also learn to spot the moron keeping the plague alive and steer very clear of him.
I remember this happening. Everyone in Ogrimmar was like wtf?
@Rodimus Prime : Yeah, it was nuts; but don’t forget the pet bombs and Kazaak! 😂
Good times.
Yeah but it only spread that much cause characters can respawn, in reality it would burn out really quick because of it's deadliness. It was designed for the Hakkar the Soulflayer encounter, Hakkar randomly drained player characters of their blood, when he would drain a infected character, he would take damage. The Reason that it was so deadly is because the damage numbers the character took was fixed. While high tier players, who contracted the plague in the first place, could easily regenerate the amount of hitpoints when out of combat, the amount of damage was deadly to the lower level players.
They also address that in the video (not directly tho) that the diseade would have burnt itself quickly once most infected people in the cities had died. However the few invulnerable NPCs who existed in the cities would also get infected and act like asymptomatic carriers that reignited the plague once they entered in contact with the population again.
Yeah but healing classes: like priests had also the ability to purge the affliction. Also in Classic WoW you still could see all the buffs and debuffs on a characters portrait so finding them is not a problem.
And don't forget to account for respawning and plague spreading trolls. There were plenty.
I think you're also not accounting for the fact that in real life, a city would have far more people and that's a lot more people could become infected. Also unlike the game, it's unlikely that the disease would kill somebody within a matter of 10 seconds. It might take hours, days, or even longer, creating a much better opportunity to spread the infection
It accurately reflected real life.
The invulnerable NPCs represent carriers. Although probably not as many as real life in such a small confined area, still, carriers none the less.
The "instant death" of lower level plays can reflect children and those especially susceptible to diseases and death.
So although the rate of death would've been far faster than real life, it can still be used as a study tool.
Those who are sick already can easily spread it much like gastro on a plane.
Sometimes you hear cases of cruises or planes being quarantined because 1 person went on without knowing they had a highly contagious disease.
How ironic that now the world is suffering with a real plague
I already wanted to comment "When people handle a pandemic better in a computer game than in real life" and then came "a small but equally as dedicated subsection of players [...] actively resisted Blizard's attempts to eradicate the plague" - difference is in real life that happens mostly because of ignorance and stupidity
Alfred was right in his words of wisdom, 'Some just want to watch the world burn!'
Research into this may or may not have helped the current situation, but hearing Simon talking about mmorpg stuff is definitely helping me lmao.
this reminds me of all the antivaxxers and the recent resurgence of polio.
not really the same... antivaxxers are basically the "npcs"
and people like you are the spreaders
@@Sapphiregriffin k, have fun with your wheelchair
Sapphiregriffin I bet you’re a Flat Earther too, aren’t you?
Not to mention measles
@@davidblaine6213 you can overdose on water
does humor exist as a way to cope with the oddity of life
The Sun, our local star, that is helpful but still so dangerous
our power comes from suff underground, its just down there and they hoovered it up