You are 100% true. As a neovim user I spend almost half or the entire day just configuring it for rust and c++ because I use don't use Mason and just configure it by code and watch a random tutorial at the same time
My hatred and distrust for Microsoft has kept me from even trusting that. Had a bit of a. Crisis after they discontinued atom and tried neovim for a while. Thank God for the pulsar team and their fork of atom
@@bigboxSWE let me give you a better name on that reference: Directory ship. Cause you're the literal Directory of knowledge who ships for us broke ass devs. Thanks for your content as always!
Can't believe you brought up visual studio and didn't mention us C++ devs. We hate our language, but we will defend it to the death if anyone talks smack about it
@@Anton_Sh. cowards run to the comfort of zig and rust. The warriors fight in the trenches of legacy c++ code with terrible memory leak and bases that switch between using and not using namespace std
I use arch on a 2013 thinkpad edge, neovim in tmux, I code in Rust and listen to the joe rogan experience. I also haven’t showered for two days. What the actual hell
@@aeronjarrett6753diatro doesn't matter as much, desktop environment does if your system is somewhat performant it might run regular xfce, if not, there are plenty window managers like dwm, openbox, etc. that can work with a tiny amount of cpu power
@@sampjm1898 I suppose it's either just personal preferences, or for practical purpose : you want to read your code without having the files and the mess at your left when your eyes start to read another line of code ; you'd be inclined to be distracted. All suppositions, idk for real.
@@joshuarose3186 Depends, either they've never used any other text editor, can't be arsed, or they're people who only open it in administrator mode to edit certain system files. Probs a few more use cases, but mostly people who don't want to bother with downloading something better.
Notepad++ brings back memories. It was and still is for the occasional script a very good choice. Especially if you need something lightweight and portable. And it is still maintained.
@@lionelemilio4141 I talked about the pretender part. A junior dev gets shit actually done. The one just wants to life the style of it and act like a SWE
@@finndemoncat9379 It's not about the editor, it's about the guy using it. I have go think about this type because I got people like these in my CS course. But to still answer your questions VSC is very good. It depends how you use it. Do you only want to pretend, you won't get anything from it. If you want to build software and work with other members it will be the best tool you could have.
@@nomen385 no it's the worst text editor.. it's hard to edit things written with a pen.. even pencil writings are hard to edit written with pressure...
I don't use VI, or derivatives of it, I never understood why it was so complex, I use NANO for editing small files and Ed when I need something more powerful, I recently discovered OpenBSD has an editor called MG, which is "Micro-Emacs" apparently, its cool, its emacs without the bloat.
@@johnmcashill9919 Nah, I can't lose time with configurarions and `ed` lets me edit files using regular expressions, which is what I use it for most of the time.
Pretty funny that I started using Emacs in 2016 as a 19 year old. That editor was double my age. Still admire it with all its quirks to this day. Preeeettty steep learning curve tho, I admit
I use micro btw. Most sane cli text editor. I even switched to writing python apps in it, so I don’t have to wait for pycharm to load and bombard me with new features.
40-year-old Java and C# devs trying not to use a bloated, outdated IDE on Windows with a pure #FFFFFF theme on everything except the text (IMPOSSIBLE CHALLENGE)
Offense taken, although I'm humble enough to accept the truth of your argument. That having been said, Sublime is and will always be (probably, who knows) my bestie.
i use intellij for java and i won't do it any other way. i am gonna die eventually and i'd rather not waste my time with structural java quirks. i use neovim for other things because it works nice with linux setup. i can use vscode comfortably too. it's nice all around. for me, it doesn't make a lot of difference. i can enjoy all of them when i figure out what i want and they all provide it with various difficulties.
I use CLion for C and it's a great IDE albeit very bloated. It saves me lots of time, and I get it for free so I don't have any reason to use another tool
Helix-editor gang. For people who want a modern VIM and want to get sh*t done. No plugins means no plugins breaking bby. It just works, is fast, and is easy.
personally i've been using a hex editor for while, but recently i noticed "what's the point of writing code if i can use the same editor to write binary directly", now i write jvm bytecode
There is programming before and after JetBrains. I've tried different IDE's and editors and JetBrains IDE's are unmatched. It just reduces the cognitive load tremendously. It's super easy to navigate even large projects and the visual debugger is a pleasure to work with. If you want you can get the Vim shortcuts, but I don't use it anymore because the shortcuts aren't "cross application". I like the system shortcuts as they are the same in whatever application I use. One ring to rule them all. A good visual debugger is a must btw.
A common trend i'm seeing is every one talks down on vscode but offer no alternative. Every text editor is "oh you use that". Like every youtube just makes these videos for views....... and it works.
1:18 wow... I can't belive I didn't discover this sooner. I am bit used to the left side layout by now but I'm so glad there is an option to make it good!
C++ was my first "real" language. And damn, this toxic realationship ended cause I fount her: easy, kinda slow but cute - python. And guess what, after using IDLE for half o year I switched to Visual Studio cause I cant use other IDEs (File manager at the right is just how it goes for me), im just used to it. And I had a little conversation with hot, fast but toxic ex thru VS2019. She replayed with some freaking errors that just broke my vs 2019. Using VS 2022 for python is cool.
@@SzymonSaysStuffbecause their faces are usually placed on the right side, so they don't overlay the code. Also editor doesn't do any UI shift when opening/closing sidebar In my honest opinion tho - sidebar on the left is still better because you don't have to stare at the edge of the screen all the time which is super non-ergonomic
@@SzymonSaysStuff It makes the screen feel significantly less cluttered. I'm guessing it's because our brains are wired to read left-to-right, so we always try to subconsciously "parse" the sidebar before reading the contents of our main pane.
i got low key kinda hurt about the game dev part but i am probably going to fall into the stereo type of never releasing a game but tbh i dont wanna get mad because it all part of the joke but also what's the point of the internet if i cant get mad at people making fun of me
As a zed user, I am deeply offended that I fit the description of the VSCode users (this isnt actually what most of them are, im just going with the flow)
Dude I live in Iran Average programmers in my country barely know other IDE's or other platforms, except VS Code or Visual Studio (not speaking of actual programmers) and here's why: In my country, if you graduate in computer schools or in related majors in universities, you should handwrite codes in a peace of paper in exams, not even on a pc that only has notepad++!!! They still make us to use platforms like Adobe Dreamweaver for creating websites
En varias ocasiones tuve que analizar logs enormes, llenos de texto, a tal punto de necesitar cortarlos a la mitad para poder leerlos mejor. El editor que funciona sin problema y que responde a la perfección con logs de varios gigabytes fue sublime text. ni notepad++ ni el bloc de notas funcionaron bien, se rompian apenas abria el archivo, sin embargo sublime text me salvó incontables ocasiones!!! excelente video!!
@@patryk6769 he mentioned Neovim at 1:30, though not sure if Vim or Neovim is the same (haven't used it, quick google search says yes, not sure the consensus)
As a Neovim user I can confirm that I didn't even watch the video because I'm still configuring Neovim
lmao dude, you made my day, this is so relatable xdd
That's because youre stuck using that garbage they call Lua! Now if only someone made a flavor of Vim using Elisp...
You only need a decent colorscheme, treesitter, lsp, telescope and maybe a file tree.
You are 100% true. As a neovim user I spend almost half or the entire day just configuring it for rust and c++ because I use don't use Mason and just configure it by code and watch a random tutorial at the same time
@@CaptTerrific Both languages are pure garbage
"Nano because you're scared of vim" lmao
Its true tho
Honestly though... Yeah, I gotta admit XD
Relatable
So true !!! :D
CTRL S, CTRL X easy
VS Codium: When you hate Microsoft so much but you also needed VS Code
My hatred and distrust for Microsoft has kept me from even trusting that. Had a bit of a. Crisis after they discontinued atom and tried neovim for a while.
Thank God for the pulsar team and their fork of atom
I used to love Atom. Tried Pulsar the other days, tons of errors when instaling dependencies.
@@Joetorres3 really? I have yet to have a problem. I do solidity and Javascript work mostly on Linux. What languages and OS are you using.
when u think ur a Linux nerd but u don't even know how to exit vim
No one needs VsCode, we just use it for lazyness
As a typical fireship viewer I can confirm I'm definitely "suprised" to see bigbox boarding the "text editor personality" train.
i remember someone calling me direship and that lives in my head rent free
@@bigboxSWE let me give you a better name on that reference: Directory ship. Cause you're the literal Directory of knowledge who ships for us broke ass devs. Thanks for your content as always!
Can't believe you brought up visual studio and didn't mention us C++ devs. We hate our language, but we will defend it to the death if anyone talks smack about it
Are you saying rust/zig you're gonna not adapt?
@@Anton_Sh. cowards run to the comfort of zig and rust. The warriors fight in the trenches of legacy c++ code with terrible memory leak and bases that switch between using and not using namespace std
FR
he forgot borland/turbo ide in honorable mentions
FR man, C++ always been that toxic girlfriend, whom I can't leave
senior level jetbrains user, never wrote a unit test in my life ☺️
I'm a junior jetbrains user, seems like it's tempting to follow your path.
And let me guess... stuck on a java 8 project ? Yeah I know that too
@@lufenmartofilia5804 lmao for me, it was Java 7 and recently upgraded to 8 kekw
senior here. also jetbrains
Never worked in company level JetBrains user, im coding some stuff after reversing in ida. Never wrote a unit test in my life
I use arch on a 2013 thinkpad edge, neovim in tmux, I code in Rust and listen to the joe rogan experience. I also haven’t showered for two days. What the actual hell
Exactly me. And he also nailed that I prefer manga over Anime 😭
Bro only needs to add blue hair for the perfect rustacean
I've been wondering what Linux would run on the thinkpad... though I think mine is much older than 2013 :(
Should be C rather than Rust but decent enough otherwise
Also do you use a tiling window manager?
@@aeronjarrett6753diatro doesn't matter as much, desktop environment does
if your system is somewhat performant it might run regular xfce, if not, there are plenty window managers like dwm, openbox, etc. that can work with a tiny amount of cpu power
Best IDE: Sticky Notes 📝
Lol
Notepad++ has entered the chat
@@christopherdixon4472 notepad++ has usable features... notepad is a better ide..
Sticky notes… more like Notepad - -
Let Paper and pen bless you
All I took away from this was to move my vscode tabs to the right side and my day feels spiced up already ty. Back to the coffee shop 🤓
Same!
All that’s left is to quit coding to be a tech UA-camr and sell false hopes and dreams through boot camps after holding one junior dev job!
gonna try this right this instant ... or not idk
I don't get this?can anybody explain to me why you want to shift your tab to the right?
@@sampjm1898 I suppose it's either just personal preferences, or for practical purpose : you want to read your code without having the files and the mess at your left when your eyes start to read another line of code ; you'd be inclined to be distracted. All suppositions, idk for real.
notepad++ users are the true gigachads because they use their text editor like a text editor
what about people that just use notepad
@@joshuarose3186 Depends, either they've never used any other text editor, can't be arsed, or they're people who only open it in administrator mode to edit certain system files. Probs a few more use cases, but mostly people who don't want to bother with downloading something better.
@@joshuarose3186 *Hypercam aquiered* __Trance001_plays__
It's only for the autosave 👍
i use notepad... just normal default notepad
I can't believe the good old windows notepad wasn't mentioned
On that note I can’t believe the even better Microsoft Word wasn’t included.
@@CoClockOn that note, I can't believe the good old ms paint wasn't mentioned.
well, there is beauty in the simplicity of coding in notepad.
Or Notepad++
i use notepad to make up webpages sometimes
As an Emacs user, i can confirm it is indeed past my bedtime
Yeah it's way too late.
Time for you to hibernate
I'm a simple man. I see bigbox notification, I click.
True
true
1
I am that simple man too
Guess im a simple man too
😂😂 My daily dose of toxicity & self-imposed cyber bullyuing. The supreme motivational speaker🤣
indeed 🤣🤣🤣
The humor is straight up on point for this one.
Just want to say thanks bigbox for your vids.
"navigation on the right side of the screen", thanks for the recognition bigbox 🔥
Damn, I read the manga.. guess I have to learn vim. Best video I've seen in my life.
what are u doing NOT using vim bro, you're so close to transition into Algo Chad final form
JOIN THE CHURCH OF EMACS MORTAL
Writing garbage code without tests really pegged me.
That's pretty gay, ngl
... pegged?
pause
Notepad++ brings back memories.
It was and still is for the occasional script a very good choice.
Especially if you need something lightweight and portable.
And it is still maintained.
I got sick of all the choices that I created my own Editor. Best thing I've ever done.
Now there are X+1 choices
Haha. That's how these things are born.@@futuza
Let me use it too
That's the level you reach when you have long hair, long beard and like viking stuff 😂
@@futuza xkcd927
As a notepad user i can confirm that it's better than every other editor.
I mean...
It's defaulted to whitemode.
This is about to go so viral. I’m both jealous and fearful of your comments for the next few weeks
Why is this comment so deeply buried
the anarchy has already begun
big box probably read my comment let's gooo
haha im only a bigbox in size not fame, i see most comments :) @@CoolestPossibleName
@@bigboxSWE you are a big youtuber to me
I feel personally attacked
I know. SciTE wasn't even mentioned.
@@desertdude540 even windows builtin notepad wasnt mentioned
well, do not make a text editor a part of your identity then?
@@svragv how am I supposed to even live then
@@chindianajones3742 that's your journey, man
bro came out swinging today
As a Notepad++ user, I agree mostly young people use this text editor. I use both VSCode for Windows and Notepad++.
Young people? I just turned 38.
@@ChristopherAndersonPirate did you watch the video?
As a Microsoft Flavoured Java user myself, I can agree that I will defend this toolchain with everything I got to the grave.
I know it is a joke, but come on... we all think the VSC archetype that pretends is 100% real
@@lionelemilio4141 I talked about the pretender part. A junior dev gets shit actually done. The one just wants to life the style of it and act like a SWE
Ah my bad then. sorry man.@@lionelemilio4141
VSC is great for little one file projects
And what other code editors do you suggest?
@@finndemoncat9379 It's not about the editor, it's about the guy using it. I have go think about this type because I got people like these in my CS course.
But to still answer your questions VSC is very good. It depends how you use it. Do you only want to pretend, you won't get anything from it. If you want to build software and work with other members it will be the best tool you could have.
The sudden plainrock jumpscare caught of me off-guard KSJSJSJ
Helix not being mentioned is oddly fitting
I love the fact that the english speaking IT community started using memes with Prigozhin in their videos :)
0:53
Damn, I didn't even notice
Bro did Vim users dirtyy , he didn't even mention it 💀
ikr. the neovim crowd came in and started calling their editor vim when it's really just vim with a roblox language and weird community
@@harleyspeedthrust4013 roblox language > esoteric language
@@zekrinealfa1113 which language?
@@ncpeaksean4278i suppose lua because "roblox language"
@@harleyspeedthrust4013nah don't hate on lua. you just haven't tried it
Here I am coding on vscode and watching this video then BOOM "PUT YOUR PRIMARY BAR ON THE RIGHT SIDE"....I never thought to do this. Thank you
Man, the Visual Studio stuff with C# is so true and real. I can see all of it every single day at work
the accuracy of this video is beyond anything.
Damn, you got me at "File explore on the right side". Yes, I hate my editor position change when you have long and large folder structure on the left
Everyone knows that the windows notepad is the best text editor
rookie. MSpaint is the best we all know that
Noobs. It's paper.
@@nomen385 nuh uh, clay tablets are even better if you think about it
Arthur Whitney would certainly agree with you.
@@nomen385 no it's the worst text editor.. it's hard to edit things written with a pen.. even pencil writings are hard to edit written with pressure...
Helix: you're too much of a hipster, not even Neovim cuts it for you
I use Helix because I'd rather not fight the stupidly long config process of Neovim.
I don't use VI, or derivatives of it, I never understood why it was so complex, I use NANO for editing small files and Ed when I need something more powerful, I recently discovered OpenBSD has an editor called MG, which is "Micro-Emacs" apparently, its cool, its emacs without the bloat.
Oh wow, an ed user out in the wild, that's a rare sight to see
I use vim, in my mind Ed means erectal disfunction 😂
@@johnmcashill9919 Nah, I can't lose time with configurarions and `ed` lets me edit files using regular expressions, which is what I use it for most of the time.
As a Neovim +i3 + NixOS user, I can confirm that I still configuring everything
New user: "When do we get to the ride?" (using the software they're configuring)
NixOS: "This [configuring] _is_ the ride!"
@@angeldude101 exactly! I enjoy every bit of learning how to configure NixOS to my liking. Which feel a lot more fun than playing video games
as a nano user, im scared of vim, that shit is terrifying, i like my habitat. i love your channel is so informational and entertaining
You missed the Gigachads: Notepad.
Pretty funny that I started using Emacs in 2016 as a 19 year old. That editor was double my age. Still admire it with all its quirks to this day. Preeeettty steep learning curve tho, I admit
everything you said about Neovim user is me. just at point.
and what about your personal hygiene bro? :D
I use micro btw. Most sane cli text editor. I even switched to writing python apps in it, so I don’t have to wait for pycharm to load and bombard me with new features.
As an emacs user, at 34 years old, I can confirm that I am the youngest emacs user I know.
real programmers code on rocks.. No typo, no bug.. You right each line, you gotta be DAMN sure it works just as intended
3:45 why is this so accurate 😭😭 and defending C# part lol you're spot on.
literally me omg. Does anyone else?
40-year-old Java and C# devs trying not to use a bloated, outdated IDE on Windows with a pure #FFFFFF theme on everything except the text (IMPOSSIBLE CHALLENGE)
Chads just use: Wordpad 🗿
Too bad it's gone now
But windows builtin notepad is better
Nano is superior
While gigachads use ed in the tty, and they only start an X instance if they need to test their graphical program
real chads use echo >>, if you want to change a line rewrite the entire file
As a vscode user i dont even care about editors just wanna make the software i need and im interested in, gave up on this industry anyway
Offense taken, although I'm humble enough to accept the truth of your argument. That having been said, Sublime is and will always be (probably, who knows) my bestie.
I've spent a couple years configuring Neovim but I still don't have even a single fully completed project
As a TextMate user, I can confirm that there still haven't been any updates for several years, but at least it still does JSON well
4:26 I feel attacked!
Nowadays I use Geany. My body is ready, let'er rip!
i use intellij for java and i won't do it any other way. i am gonna die eventually and i'd rather not waste my time with structural java quirks.
i use neovim for other things because it works nice with linux setup.
i can use vscode comfortably too. it's nice all around.
for me, it doesn't make a lot of difference. i can enjoy all of them when i figure out what i want and they all provide it with various difficulties.
The best editor for java is to not use java
I use CLion for C and it's a great IDE albeit very bloated. It saves me lots of time, and I get it for free so I don't have any reason to use another tool
I feel so proud as a jetbrains boy
As a JetBrains IDE user... Never before have I been so offended by something I one hundred percent agree with XDDDD
Helix-editor gang. For people who want a modern VIM and want to get sh*t done. No plugins means no plugins breaking bby. It just works, is fast, and is easy.
helix recognition
personally i've been using a hex editor for while, but recently i noticed "what's the point of writing code if i can use the same editor to write binary directly", now i write jvm bytecode
What a nigma
There is programming before and after JetBrains. I've tried different IDE's and editors and JetBrains IDE's are unmatched. It just reduces the cognitive load tremendously. It's super easy to navigate even large projects and the visual debugger is a pleasure to work with. If you want you can get the Vim shortcuts, but I don't use it anymore because the shortcuts aren't "cross application". I like the system shortcuts as they are the same in whatever application I use. One ring to rule them all. A good visual debugger is a must btw.
A common trend i'm seeing is every one talks down on vscode but offer no alternative. Every text editor is "oh you use that". Like every youtube just makes these videos for views....... and it works.
Ok. Jetbrains IDEs
I know nothing about coding, but I appreciate this video.
1:18 wow... I can't belive I didn't discover this sooner. I am bit used to the left side layout by now but I'm so glad there is an option to make it good!
this is a banger
Richard Stallman: "I am sceptical of the claim that voluntarily pedophilia harms children."
bigboxSWE: "I dig it!!!"
Context: 2:30
Waiting for roast of Kakoune and Helix :v
preach!
What? You didn't mention my code editor, ms paint!
Helix not mentioned 😢
helix my beloved
no love for the greatest text editor, ed
where is notepad?? without ++
zed is coming in a moment..
Where Helix???
the 5 helix users are not eating tonight
C++ was my first "real" language. And damn, this toxic realationship ended cause I fount her: easy, kinda slow but cute - python. And guess what, after using IDLE for half o year I switched to Visual Studio cause I cant use other IDEs (File manager at the right is just how it goes for me), im just used to it. And I had a little conversation with hot, fast but toxic ex thru VS2019. She replayed with some freaking errors that just broke my vs 2019. Using VS 2022 for python is cool.
1:17 The tip to change the sidebar to the right is genuinely super helpful, thanks!
why? I noticed many UA-camrs use it like that, but I don't know why
@@SzymonSaysStuffbecause their faces are usually placed on the right side, so they don't overlay the code. Also editor doesn't do any UI shift when opening/closing sidebar
In my honest opinion tho - sidebar on the left is still better because you don't have to stare at the edge of the screen all the time which is super non-ergonomic
@@SzymonSaysStuff It makes the screen feel significantly less cluttered. I'm guessing it's because our brains are wired to read left-to-right, so we always try to subconsciously "parse" the sidebar before reading the contents of our main pane.
Absolute genius!!! This channel deserves x10 the subscribers :D
John Carmack uses visual studio
i got low key kinda hurt about the game dev part but i am probably going to fall into the stereo type of never releasing a game but tbh i dont wanna get mad because it all part of the joke but also what's the point of the internet if i cant get mad at people making fun of me
where’s helix? 😢😢
What’s that? 😂
What color theme we seen in 1:10 moment?
You know it's a bad place to go when interviewer is using JetBrains
eh why ?
The way you hit me deep with the Nano and the Eclipse burns...
My Editor is helix: For people who like the drawbacks of neovim without any of the ecosystem, just because it's written in rust ^^
🦀
Helix is for wannabe hipsters like Neovim is but at least Helix users shower.
Rust is for cowards
Write in C
As a zed user, I am deeply offended that I fit the description of the VSCode users (this isnt actually what most of them are, im just going with the flow)
Next time you should talk about helix :)
"you are watching anime? they had read manga"
It was so unexpected and accurate xD
I can’t believe you forgot about all 38 Helix users.
39 now.
@@Pepo.. Make that 40 !
what about the lads like me who write assembly using paper and pen
My left hand hurts for slapping my knee when laughing at this
I hope your right hand isn't tired
i like how nvim got such a long segment. almost as long as the time it takes us to cd into the right rep
I'm 14, and I already used emacs, am I an old foe anyway ? (now I use vim btw)
you meant neovim???
@@vaisakh_km no. vim is not neovim, they are two different things
@@vaisakh_kmyes sorry
@@vaisakh_kmnope. VIM.
@@vaisakh_km no. VIM.
Dude I live in Iran
Average programmers in my country barely know other IDE's or other platforms, except VS Code or Visual Studio (not speaking of actual programmers) and here's why:
In my country, if you graduate in computer schools or in related majors in universities, you should handwrite codes in a peace of paper in exams, not even on a pc that only has notepad++!!!
They still make us to use platforms like Adobe Dreamweaver for creating websites
Wait until you discover that it's the same thing in other parts of the world
(Brazilian indie dev who uses VS almost exlusively for c#)
Never in my life have I felt so attacked.
I use it for CPP, but I use VS Code for everything else.
"nano, because you are too afraid to use vim on your aws instance", how can someone know me this deep
we've all been there
long videos from bigbox is moooooooooodddddd
En varias ocasiones tuve que analizar logs enormes, llenos de texto, a tal punto de necesitar cortarlos a la mitad para poder leerlos mejor. El editor que funciona sin problema y que responde a la perfección con logs de varios gigabytes fue sublime text. ni notepad++ ni el bloc de notas funcionaron bien, se rompian apenas abria el archivo, sin embargo sublime text me salvó incontables ocasiones!!! excelente video!!
I write C on paper 😎 ( I am a student ☹️)
not so different than writing haskell white papers.
If you drag the time slider to the right place on 1:27, it sounds like he's just calling you based over and over instead of insulting you.
phew, luckily he didn't mention online editor websites.
I use almost all of these, so I got to be offended through 90% of the video. Great service!
Vim users:
he didn't mention vim did he? or is my attention span that bad already
why would he bother talking about neovim-- ??
@@patryk6769 well he kinda mentioned it under nano
@@patryk6769 he mentioned Neovim at 1:30, though not sure if Vim or Neovim is the same (haven't used it, quick google search says yes, not sure the consensus)