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Trailblazing a New Route to the COAL MINE in Railroads Online!
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- Опубліковано 11 січ 2022
- Hey everyone and welcome back to more Railroads Online! Today we are finally beginning to work on the biggest route to date, the path to the coal mine! This route is a super long rail that has to travel the entire side of the map so I decided to spend this episode finding our way there and creating some initial foundation pieces to see if it will even be possible for trains to do later!
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Dude, idk why, but this series is crack to me. I want a new episode every day!
Same
Same
I bought the game…
@@LSFord me too (not because of you or the video)
@@chocolateimage well no not because of me that would be ridiculous. But these videos are why for me. I wouldn’t have known it existed
You might want to use Railroads Online Extended mod. Gives you a map of your rail network, also a mini map in-game, and you can remote throw switches and remote control trains (as long as they are fired). Also you can teleport to the other sites and to locomotives, overall a very useful tool and it works with MP (only host needs to have it).
wait... it's moddable now??
link?
@@insomniacbritgaming1632 it's in the 3rd party tab of the discord
Be cool if the developers added something like npc workers that spawn at depot and want to hire you to take them to a random stop (coal mine , iron mine or any other stop) that reduces costs of manufacturing for a limited time at that location or you get cash to take them there.
Would be great
There are SO many potential improvements like this that could make this game so great. Tunnels, NPCs, other maps, public servers, rp servers… I’ve seen so many good suggestions i hope the devs are paying attention
Ya, not to mention the ability to rework terrain for money, ala Cities Skylines. It's cool that they built in these paths, but it would be cooler to build them into the terrain yourself.
@@Nevir202 yeah true, and tunnels.
Or even to automate the depot they get dropped at to auto fill a wagon.
I definitely like seeing you go through the process of laying down new track from start to finish. So definitely would like to see more like this and the subsequent next steps of building the line, and running it once completed.
I Agree. This bit here is the interesting bit, I don't want to miss it. If you had to cut a part for time, I would cut the final stages of laying out a new track where you make the minor adjustments to meet the Straightline quality control standards.
This looks like an amazining route: beautiful vistas and the inclination never exceeds 3%! Very much looking forward to the final trail. I do have a request: could you draw your railway network over the in game map? I don't always find it easy to translate what parts in game correspond to what parts on the map and having an approximate overview of your endeavours would be very nice to have.
yes
Yep
I agree I don't really know where that triangle is to the iron smelter
What would be a massive time saver for travel is tunnels. Having to blast and chisel your way through the rock to get from point a to point b.
And for balance it coukd cost, like how cutting down trees used to cost
I agree, that would be awesome. But i don’t see it happening in this game. Maybe if it becomes successful enough and they make a new version in the future.
That would be a nice "endgame" mechanic, have an explosives or diamond cutting tools industry that requires a lot of endgame resources provinding you the digging materials to create tunnels to optimise your routes :D
@@Soken50 but on the flip side, once you’re end game, you’d pretty much only use it for fun since you’re pretty much done already
@@lucassvedlund3851 You underestimate people's dedication. I play Factorio and few people stop playing after their first rocket, they try to produce more with better efficiency and so on. With multiplayer I can see Rails players going pretty far into roleplay and spend years optimising a map.
I agree i was happy with the free logging. I always thought you should be payed for the logs, considering the fact that the railroad is clearly being created to fuel the logging industry. It would be awesome if the logs you cut down had to be delivered from the freight depot to the sawmill, and if too many pile up you can’t cut down any more.
Just saw another great suggestion there are so many i seriously hope devs are reading these. Your rails should show up on the map as a line and switches should have flags. You could see if the switches are in the right direction
it actually looked like he was making $5 per tree he cut down
@@LSFord There's a mod that does that apparently, according to comments.
'Game name' extended mod'
@@tropicalvikingcreations thanks. Will look into this
Love trailblazing episodes. Hearing your thought process as you figure out where to lay new track is the highlight of this whole series.
You can actually have water flow uphill for short stretches. It just means there's a lot of pressure pushing it uphill.
Yup, when you have dozens of cubic meters per second of water pushing ahead, a small uphill incline is no big deal unless there's an easier path elsewhere :D
11:18 well, Bluewizard has done a route from the sawmill direct to the coal mine by climbing to the same level as a CERTAIN CUTTING in the ridgeline, high up a VERTICAL CLIFFSIDE above the iron ore mine valley. I've also seen a few dips in the hillside that remind me of potential cuttings for trackbeds (possibly the devs giving us a hand, like the ridicolous grade to the iron mine).
I have spoken to Bluewizard and a few others on DC, they all are against a branchline to the coal mine starting out from the iron ore mine, but to me, it seems possible (though I'l quite possibly need the Climax and a few switchbacks..)
Also from my experience, it's better to build a route going UP a mountain rather than coming DOWN a mountain.
I watch him to
I cut across the ridge from coal going down along the southern part of map and landing near the oil fields.
A nice 2% track grade except a small 3% on the other side.
For the end of the track, I suggest that instead of a loop, you should do a run-around siding that they have in real life. Would make it much more realistic, and much less chance for a train to derail in the tight loop curve.
More sidings in general would be useful, when you have the other guys on with you running trains, the sidings would prevent a bunch of the collisions. (If you guys use them at least)
Most steam engines don't like pushing a tender, that's what tank engines are for
That intro part where gutless couldn’t start felt like gutless was trying his best, but couldn’t, then as KaN became slightly more and more worried, gutless was scared to be looked down upon and put back into the roundhouse shed andTHEN it finally started.
Like an employee scared of being fired from the boss
Hopefully soon they add Coal locomotives and then have a British update with a British map and British steam locomotives
From what the dev’s have said on discord, there is no plan to add anything British since they want to focus on 3 ft narrow gauge American railroads. Once there is a steam workshop for the game people will be able to make international railways and locomotives. Coal firing is planned tho
Imagine an A4 in Railroads Online...
Edit: And Pullmans.
@@thesteamengineer442 mallard and flying Scotsman and tornado (A1/A3/A4)
@@thomaslafferty8382 do you have the link to the discord server?
@@thomaslafferty8382 On steam workshop will people be able to make new Rail gauges and new rails along with locomotives and Rolling stock
I love seeing this part of the track laying process. I like the tinkering and improvisation, the tedious part is also nice but that's nicer to watch if you've seen the initial layout come to life.
For the 4 way intersection you could do a roundabout with 3 ways on each cardinal direction
I recommend getting the Eureka going and then reducing your reverser to get more speed. You should be able to get over that small elevation to the coal mine
I really enjoy "the process" type videos. Listening to you talk through your methodology is entertaining
Coal mine route! Finally!
I didn't realize the length of the route until the time lapse. Really long and beautiful.
Everytime I see a new episode I go: YES! Bought and tried the game myself actually - I don't like to play it myself was my conclusion, I simply don't have the patience to lay the tracks etc. but for whatever reason, I enjoy watching this series alot.
Love this series and your obsession with making perfect looking lines always makes my day
I just love watching you build in this game and to see it all come together in the end is just great. Looking forward to the next episode!
KAN, would you ever consider sharing your game save? I love your track plan so far.
I bought this game because of watching you, Kosmo, and Dapper. This episode came out at the perfect time because I’m just about to start surveying out to the coal mine. As always love the content and excited to see what you do next.
Such a route seems legit tbh, I'd seriously like to see you lay the initial tracks as well and even connect it to the already finished railway.
Hey Kan you should make a behind the scenes channel for people (like me) who would like to see the whole process of you doing this kind of stuff on this and other games that you play.
4% is an extremely steep incline when talking about freight trains. Ideal is 1%. It's all about how many wheels are receiving power and the weight of your train. So things like subways can get away with steeper gradients like 4-5% because their cargo is lighter and they tend to have more powered wheels (for instance every single car on a metro is powered)
That's why In the mountains they tended to use geared locos such as climax's, shay's, and heisler's. Basically 4 wheel drive but on rails. Allowed track layers to lay track on steeper sections rather than take the time to blast and remove terrain for an ideal incline. Also shorter trains on those mountain lines, like 5-10 cars average
Nice that you're building down the mountain to keep the grade at a good level! Its easier because the plateau at the bottom gives you a buffer to smooth out the climb. Can't wait for the next one!
You can delete trees as you lay your groundwork. After selecting your groundwork, go back to the G menu and select Logging. Then you can delete trees as you lay your groundwork.
Im late to the party so I dont know who all will see this, but IIRC from watching a developer stream, the reason there seem to be ideal paths for rails like here and at the iron mine is that, in the lore of the game, a previous rail company had rail lines in these locations. So the paths through the mountains are actually old railbeds
Time-lapse is amazing 👏
I love the long building videos. I still think it would be awesome with a building livestream 😁
Remember when laying out the track to have as many straight sections as possible. If you aren't with the curve it isn't going to kill you. You want to make sure you have speed and momentum getting up the mountain.
I absolutly love this series I hope to see more and more episodes more often but I know they take ages to make aswell.
This was definitely worth it the process of figuring out the best route is at least 1/3 of gameplay. The other thirds are train fitment/track finish . And finaly execution of a small and max run. Showing off the final product and Vistas.
Yeah you looking for a path and then wofking your way down the slope was great viewing, keep it up!
dude watching you play this makes me wish i could afford this game my kids would love watching me play this. I litereally just relax after work and watch your railroads online series lol ty for such great content
That curve at 22 min looks kind of like the Horseshoe Curve at Altoona, PA! It definitely fulfills the same purpose as the real one.
Something that I think would be really cool is being able to customize your map so you can draw where your trail goes or even have it automatically do it so there's lines and things and you could put text or change the colors of the lines so you can tell which is which, I think it would be really cool having a map of all your tracks
ngl as I have been binging this for two hours, I feel like kAn sounds younger and younger as he continues to play Railroads Online!
Noice vid mate. Btw that country music at the end reminds me of your 15/16 video where you made a timelaps with dapper. Damn how i miss and wish that you make again such a vid driving a train with dapper plus country music.
23:14 Call that curve the Ole Horseshoe. It be a nod to the Pennsylvania Railroads Horseshoe Curve in near Altoona, Pennsylvania which happens to overlook a valley.
My favorite part is when old Douglas tries to put in the guts that it don't have to get up the very first little Hill at the start of the episode and that was amazing guess it's time we retire old gutless they're kon
Fantastic route youve made here :3
This game is so cool. Wish I could play it myself
Why can’t you? Aren’t you a steam engineer? This game is on steam and it’s literally about being an engineer. (Joking but also asking why)
@@LSFord Cuz I'm broke. Might be able to afford it soon tho. Depends
@@thesteamengineer442 i feel that. I got it on sale
@@LSFord It might be on sale again by the time I can buy it
@@thesteamengineer442 i hope so bro. Keep an eye out
The rough draft looks good my mans, can't wait to see the next installment of the series. Watching you play this game has been quite a treat, thank you for the wonderful content. Keep up the good work.😁👍
Great episode, marvelous bit with poor "Gutless" and you really love to do the intro, don't you kAN?
I like the true episodes with all the trials and tribulations in any part of the journey towards completing the rail network for you and your guests (cough minions minions)
That leads me towards my most important question; how many total hours have you racked up in Railroads Online?
Yes, I know this includes every guest appearance and off camera pedantic construction, but that'll give us an indication of the amount of time needed for your progress.
Keep up the great work, take care and stay safe!
Just a thought. Why not add short lines to the individual locations with smaller engines on the lines. Then one or two main lines that carries product long distances. So you have products produced, shunted by the short line to the mainline reload. Stronger mainline locomotive drives load to short line reload. Unhooks load, short line shunter then pushes it to the target destination. Just a thought
Thanks for showing the way. I haven't got to this point yet. So far I've been able to keep my railroad to 1% max grade. We'll have to see if I can find a way to keep this portion to at least 2% max. Thanks again. 😀
I never thought this would be such a scenic route.
10:15 someone finally noticed ;)
that whole river flows uphill from the southern waterfall to the northern falls, then flows south from smelter down iron valley and disappears into a rock
honesty came by your channel by coinsidence didn't know about the game watched a video and was hooked this is the best seriese in youtube and i just can't wait for a new episode you do and amazing job on the videos keep it up!
I like seeing the track building. At least the first time you lay out a new track. Maybe not the 23rd time you lay it down. But, for real, you make good videos. Keep it up kAN!
From 32:19 - 32:36 I'd make that curvy section as strait as possible. Actually any place that you can make it strait as possible is a good idea since you're pretty much pulling a Grade the whole way up.
15:00 it is so sureal that this game is so realistic that they add elavators just like in RL in a fricking train game
I really want you to start streaming when you are building the rails and such while you are doing stuff that isn't shown in videos. I would love to watch you do this kind of stuff.
It took me about 7hrs to complete my rail up to the coal mine. I found an area up above the river thats very level and straight. I avoid all the turns of following the river. I have the same path down from the coal mine as you do. Great video.
This was very helpful! Thank you.
Really love these Railroads Online Vids😊❤️🚂
Kan: We're gonna get going
The Eureka: No, no I don't think I will.
Number one thing when surveying a rr. Is what direction your loads are going. Loads down grade then short and steep. Loads uphill then long and easy grades
I really enjoy and enjoyed this, watching the layout , I have been also using g it keep a rough mental map of your rails.
I think that mod the comments mentioned would be useful for showing your rails even if you use nothing else.
You need to use the geared engines on the grades! That is why they wear made. Leave the freight haulers on the flats or they will fail you on the hills as ( you have noticed) they have each and every time.
Dismiss the Eureka for those tasks. Put the caboose on Betsy 2 and it should be a nice looking maintenance and track building train wich gets up the five degrees pretty easy 🚂
man, me sitting in 30°C heat, watching you run winter trains over thick snow, feels so weird
Just picked it up today looking forward to playing after work
you gotta get to the oil field before the U.S does
We all ready got it 😩🤤
That joke totally hasn’t been beaten to death
@@happiestcamel5064 just making sure it stays down than
Loved the time lapse…
PS: I wander if u could make a route between the iron and coal mines. That would be awesome to see
Would love to see you continue to do trailblazing episodes
Only if you could put track behind a flowing waterfall so you could say "look there's the 8th wonder of the world the back side of water."
Nice one😂
Eureka really edging the emgine shed
It whould be cool to have multiple maps and each map is with it's own set of trains.👍
33:25 cut the corner there! Love you’re vids:)
that water does indeed flow uphill haha
This looks so great. I may be full of crap, and it could look ridiculous, but Instead of a constant change of grade, I would just stick with 1-2% because it will even out on the flat parts.
I dunno, if it was me, i would be trying to route from the iron ore mine to the coal mine rather than building a giant spur line lol
Nice vid thou, thanks.
I love how to see how you make your rail lines and see build as you go and maybe build a double track to go to it and one to go back down so in the future it'll be done and you won't have to go back and do it at a later date. I love watching this game and this content,I'm happy subbed to this channel and thanks to you,I subbed to Kosmo and Dapper too. Thanks!
I agree Deserts would be cool
Also, if you get lonely, get someone on to run simple trains while you're building so you have someone more than us to talk to. Jussa thought.
Since the detour us so long and there is some flat areas I would think you would have some room to put a fule station (water tower/sand tower) because a grade of 3 precent for a long time, even with it going down and up, might drain sand and fule. I don't know and am half tempted to get this game.
I think because there is so much room at the top of the coal mine you could make a storage yard that if you wanted could do something where you store coal cars that you fill up and then hook up to them and take them all in a large batch per say. That or you can store the set of cars that you need for that specific industry there (coal needs beams and rails so have cars for that like how the iron mine needs beams and planks)
Hint for the foundation incline: You can step it by 0.25% if you hold [SHIFT] and press Q or E. That gives you finer control, and you can make the transitions smoother.
coal goes to the iron works so you might want to go from the fraight depot to ironworks then to the coal mine
I've not heard you say if you can or not go below grade for laying track... that's what's really called a 'cut'. There's some places which I'm sure you can appreciate would make for much more even trackwork if you could cut down a few feet only to end up coming out level again some distance away. Yeah, i'm definitely going to be burning a lot of hours in this game once I get the new machine set up.
Hey Kan you could always build your track in the river then it will look like you driving on water
The curve at 32:14 looks rather tight. You might have to bridge over that crevice instead of following the hillside there.
You could leap a slightly curved bridge across that first horseshoe from the coal mine rather than going around the tight curve
It's not about the destination, it's about the journey
I do think you should make this line a giant loop. The way back can be a 5% grade
If I can make a suggestion for a way for train or locomotives to get up and down from the valley you should make what’s known as a helix.
A helix is like a corkscrew that goes up at a steady incline of 1 1/2 to 2% every time.
I’ve only known one narrow gauge railroad that’s ever done one like that the Rio grande railway and it was known as the Georgetown loop.
First off, that wasn't the Rio Grande, and that isn't a helix, that's a simple loop, a helix would require at a minimum two complete loops to form a helix, there are no real life railroads that have ever used a helix to gain elevation...loops yes(see Tehachapi Loop as a perfect example, but only model railways uses true helixes to gain elevation from level to the next).
@@zaklex3165 sorry about that I just thought a helix would be just a good idea
Great episode again, I enjoyed it, as always =)
9:16 Smelter to Coal Mine is the better route because the mine needs rail from the smelter, so you'll end up running a lot of trains that way. I just built a connecting line along most of the river with a maximum grade of 3% throughout.
From the smetler to the coal mine is better with the long route out of the smelter, then coming back with coal use the shortcut across the canyon.
@@Bendigo1 Indeed. Since you only need coal in the southern flat lands, having the line loop from the smelter all the way to the depot via the coal mine, makes pickup and delivery more straightforward.
I am not surprised someone from Bendigo knows all about freight line operations. ;)
@@martythemartian99 Ironically, I am not from Bendigo, nor have I ever been there. I would like to go there someday sust to visit a town with my name though.
@@Bendigo1 Easy for you. To visit a place with my name, I have to go to Mars and Elon Musk is not returning my calls. ;D
@@martythemartian99 🤣
is there something to check your Grade Percentage?
you are likely going to need to reroute that section where Eureka bogged down to reduce the grade there considerably.
it is not out the ordinary for a track to loop around and cross over itself trading length to gain an easier grade.
stick your route from the coal mine along the cliff past the waterfall to ease your way down into the valley floor then you can follow the river back to the junction. if at all possible, try to keep your grade to 2%
Its seems that at times you add unnecessary curves. Try to make as many straight lines, even if it means getting close to the moutain side. Nice stuff!
Measure twice, cut once.
But for laying track instead of carpentry.
6:33 the moon walking train
You are definitely gonna want to improve the saw mill for a lot of traffic bc it's gonna have a lot of it
The gutless said no i don't want to go if you call me like that. XD
I’ve been craving this episode for the whole week!
as it is a relatively flat but long route, make it straighter and faster so future trains can get there quicker
That probably will need a water tower on the 50/50 mark