As a Roma fan I can say that the work Mou has done is immense within the club. There is a lot wrong with the club and the team due to past ownership and poor management and a whole host of other problems from agents to the mayor of Rome. If he is given time and the support in the transfer market, which I think he will. Roma will be a good side. But we have to remember last season, with only a couple of different players They only just finished 7th. To draw to Napoli, nearly beat juve and show other promising signs is more than we should have expected anyway. Give it time, give him a bit more money and he’ll make this team his own I’m sure if it. I feel there is far too much criticism of Jose and of roma, when if any other club were under these circumstances they’d be cut a lot more slack. I do think there are criticisms that are valid for mou, I also think he’s not the same that he used to be. But I think his ‘downfall’ is being overplayed. And on the point of Roma’s transfers - mentioned toward the end of the video. These transfers were made out of necessity. Viña at LB a was to replace injured spina. Rui Patricio was a necessary transfer given the performance of Pau Lopez last year, and was also relatively cheap. Tammy Abraham was replacing dzeko and is often quoted at being 40 million or whatever. But this is paid yearly, and Chelsea have a buyback clause for 80 million I think. So that’s essentially a 2 year loan costing 10 million. Then either keep him for 30 million. Or let him go and make 40 million. Yes I agree Eldor wasn’t a good signing but that’s only one, the rest were either good value or direct necessary replacements.
If Mourinho is in decline then allegri is falling from a roller coaster. Honestly i think mou is doing a very good job this season so far. If roma win the conference league that will be an amazing season. Also coppa italia could be another trophy roma could realistically challenge for.
Exactly. And despite maybe 4 or 5 games the style of play has been very attacking.. Roma are the 2nd best team in terms of shots in série A. And the team who hit the woodwork the most as well. Also tammy abraham is having his best season under him with 10 goals so far already
Mourinho was unfairly sacked at Tottenham. He had Kane and Son on fire 🔥they were statistically the 2nd best duo of all time behind Mourinho's Lampard and Drogba link up. They beat Man United 6-1, became the 2nd fastest team behind Bayern to get 100 goals for the season and took them to a Carabao Cup final. I hope he succeeds at AS Roma.
@@81Fitzerz The point is Jose was good . The problem was with the CB position . He could have won the Carabao Cup if it wasn't for his sacking and I have a feeling that he will comeback stronger with Roma . Trust me he has been through a lot and will look for a rebound .
@@natalkumar6132 your wrong . That's my point . But you have every right to be wrong . It won't last at Roma either. He will be on my Monday night football pretty soon in the new year . We might even see him at Newcastle
To be honest, many people feel that Mourinho failed at Real Madrid. Although his time at Real Madrid is not a successful one and as a fan, I would never want him back, he actually did something very important in Real Madrid. He was against the best Barcelona Team of the Time which stopped him from getting a load of successes. At that time, beating Barcelona was a myth to many teams. But he instilled the idea inside the players that we can beat Barca and we have the capabilities. I still remember that in 2013, we defeated Barcelona with our B team. He had created a lot of issues in the squad but his squad set up actually helped Ancelotti to gain the La decima and we can never deny that. He was the first one to really break Barcelona's dominance. Statistically and trophy wise, there is very little success. But if you go deep, he really did something very important in Real Madrid and as a fan, I respect that. People uses to think Guardiola as successful, but looking closely, he won his champions league a decade ago and with Prime Barcelona team. Then he managed teams like Bayern, Manchester City and spend a huge amount of money to build the squad. With all these resources, he only went to the final last year and thats the best achievement. I am not comparing Mourinho and Guadriola. I am just straightening up some facts.
You said that all very well. As a Spurs fan, and one who never liked Jose (still can’t believe he was coach at Spurs, whether for 18 days or the 18 or so months). But you can’t deny his ability to win that one game that seems not possible. And use his defensive philosophy to dictate not only his team but the other team too, and have the game played the way he wants it (typically the slow & less exciting defensive tactics). This is why no matter how much we all wanted him gone, sacking right before the league cup Final v City & Pep, you just never know what could happen in any game, no matter how great one team is & the other how bad they are. Plus the Jose V Pep rivalry adding one more chapter, from when it started as you mentioned when at Madrid and beating the Dominate Barcelona teams. And your right about Pep, which is why he will always have that criticism from all fans( except for Barca, Bayern, City). Whenever he is done at City, if he were to go to mid table team , or lower, in any league, and see how great his tactics work without buying the best players from all over the world. Pep is great, no doubt, but like coaches in any sport who only coach when they have best players, or ability to buy best players (this is true in NBA too), he will always have the one question mark about him, despite him going into Hall of Fame, or whatever honors he receives after his career, as one of greatest coaches!
not exactly...... I feel, that the fact that Barca was dominating spain(and also europe), is not necessarily because they had unbeatable squad....... I mean, they HAD truly amazing team, but one of the big factors why RM couldn't challenge them in bigger way, was because those years were also a transition years between generations for RM...... it was those years where RM started disolving the famous "galacticos" and started building "Ronaldo-era" of RM....... and during that "chaos", they obviously couldn't challenge such incredible Barca...... but as soon as RM formed a solid squad with desired players, they started catching up with Barca quite easily...... those last seasons of RM with Ronaldo, the team was just as good as any era of Real Madrid...... they won league and also UCL
@@itkojecockot you are right...But at that time, Barcelona team was really unbeatable and you would feel like you can never take the ball away from them. So the team was good and getting better and was trying to beat the Prime Barcelona. In my eyes, Mourinho was the person who instilled the idea that, you can beat them. He won a league match against Barcelona using almost a B team.
Pity there isn't much attention paid to his tumultuous time at Real Madrid, which is arguably the biggest puzzle piece in explaining Jose's decline. Think Jose's time in England and Italy were mere prologues to his time in Real Madrid (the pinnacle of his managerial career) and his war with the club that rejected him for some young upstart named Pep. His magic was still evident at Madrid, and his 2010/2011 team was amongst his best and successfully drove Pep out of Barca (though Barca itself remained the premier football club of its era). However, to unseat prime Barca, he relied on scorched earth tactics that burnt both Barca and his own team's psyche out, and eventually led to him warring against Madrid icons like Iker Cassillas - thereafter, his hold over his players and his club slipped. Next, he returned to a Chelsea that saw him as their Shankly, and after 2 great seasons his belligerence - bred during his time in Madrid - caused him to begin warring against all those who wronged him, even Eva Caniero. No manager can maintain control over their dressing room for an extended period of time with a modus operandi predicated on managerial total war against all who wronged him. Once the wool has been pulled over everyone's eyes and players / supporters / media no longer worshipped every word he said, there was no turning back.
I agree, for some reason Alfie skipped that part and I may say, he showed favouritism over Pep. Mourinho had his tactics leaked to the press during his time in Madrid which also ducked him up afterwards.
Lol, you guys are mad. He isnt a yes man and thats why he is great. Primma donnas dont belong in football. If they do, thats why you dont win nothing...
Still amazed at how after Madrid was assured to finish top of the group 2 games before the end of the group phase he told 2 players during the game to try to get a red card so that they wouldn't be booked in the last game which would have saw them miss the last 16 round and the players happily did it with Ramos even shaking the referee's hand after he got sent off. That embodies both the genius and the overwhelming insanity jose had at Madrid
Mourinhos real have the la liga all time goals record in a season 121 and the all time points record in a season 100. Both better than "the best team in history" peps barca. Mou had a much worse squad as well.
@@specialperson335 pep improves players tats why he squad looks more better than the galacticos bought by mou madrid mourinho unfortunately leaves squads worse off than wat he left so no barca had academy graduates which pre Guardiola had struggled but under him were improved n made world class
I do like the fact that you didn't fall into the typical mourinho bashing agenda and you actually was coherent and fair at the end. Personally I think that Jose is definitely a genius of the game. A lone wolf who from the start wanted to set himself apart. He famously said in an interview " I don't belong to the football tribe. I love football but I'm not part of its tribe" That has been true from day one both in his succes and failures. He also is one of the most fascinating sports figures to analyze. His mentality his career his amazing highs and some huge lows. I personally think that everything changed during the summer of 2015. People say he lost it. No. You don't go from best manager in the greatest league on earth to relegation within 5 months because the game has past you by I think it was psychological. Fabregas publicly said the players abused of the thrust jose gave after that title and mourinho felt betrayed and became isolated and full of rage which led to the first game back of the new season and the Eva incident. From that moment he never looked happy again. It should also be pointed out that mourinho was very close to his father. He would call him after every game for years and he died at around that time too. While he might never go back to his prime that lasted an amazing 12 years or so. He can definitely still do great things until the end of his career and I'm banking on a succes at Roma by a trophy and a very good 2nd season Anyway great video
He fell into the opposite side. He barely talked about Mourinho's Real and how much his tactics being leaked to the press ducked him up. Also against Pep at the time, Mourinho's first season saw him winning the Copa Del Rey(the first competition Real won since Pep's arrival in Barcelona) and the next season he made Pep leave by winning the La Liga on record points. That is not "he just beat him once" like Alfie said.
@@WERTYUIO821 I doubt Pep decided to leave because Jose beat him to the title once, he literally won it three times before in a row, you think one loss will make him leave.
@@prometheustv6558 He prove that Barcelona indeed actually bleed which at a time with Pep's tactics becoming the "new hot thing, no one can beat them" it is quite huge.
@@WERTYUIO821 100 points 121 goals. Most away wins ever in a season. Most wins period in a season. Most points. Most goals. When you think about the amazing teams la Liga had for decades this is outstanding. And some still say he failed there
@@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716 not true in any form... Had a great record against fergie and is a historically a better manager than Pep since he has never proved that he can conquer a challenge.
@@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716 well true but not true. For me Fergie is the goat so im not even going to include him in this debate. Mourinho averaged basically 2 trophies a year from 2002 to 2012 with weaker clubs winning 2 champions leagues. If his whole career to peps whole career so far then yes pep has won more in a shorter time but if you compare mourinhos career up until the same point where Pep is now then mourinho has more trophies with weaker clubs. People forget that Pep has always had thr best teams in the world, he is yet to face a challenge.
@@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716 and Bob paisley beats the lot of them for trophies won in the shortest time he took 9 years to do what Fergie did in 26 just with more European cups in the locker only thing Ferguson won more of was league titles because he was in the job longer and that’s only by 4 in 17 years longer in the job, fergie averaged 1.46 trophies a season paisley 2.22 a season
Why you left out Real Madrid, where Mou stayed much longer? Oh right, after he left they won the UCL mutiple times, and with worse squads than they had under Mourinho.
@@Jonathanizer Mourinho built the spine of that multi CL winning team, and he did much better than his predecessors and beat arguably the best club side of all time to the league. Bringing up his RM stint is not the gotcha moment you think it is
Has someone who watches serie A week in week out sorry but i disagree on this view alfie. Roma squad is made up of 16 17 players that are actually of a standard to fight for European places and apart from the 6 1 bodo glint result roma are meeting expectations. Mourinho switched halfway during the season from a 4231 to 352 and look a whole lot better for it. If you are going to do a rise and fall video do one on allegri who has really collapsed into mediocrity.
Alfie did not comment on as roma as he said he needed to assess his time at roma but he reviewed his seasons b4 roma and hw it has been steady decline from the levels he set in the 2000s when he conquered europe n mourinho is no longer sought after by big clubs which shows his decline from big clubs wanting his signature on big contracts to now at roma signing small contracts n being payed less than in his glory days
I stopped watching when he said "he's had a torrid time at Roma". Exposed himself badly with that comment, shows beyond any doubt he knows absolutely nothing about roma or serie a, how is anyone supposed to take anything he says seriously after that
@@nyasha_ish Alfie didn't do enough research on Mourinho based on the fact that he messed up Pep vs Mourinho's rivalry in Spain. In reality Mourinho was the clear victor as he won La Liga on record points which made Pep left Barcelona as a result. This is quite different to "he only beat Pep once".
You must be watching some other Serie A that I... in mine Roma looses matches systematically, and not only with the Italian giants (Bologna, Empoli, Venezia aren't giants)
You can be a fan without becoming hostile to the truth. The video was factual and devoid of sentiment. Sadly, as humans we sometimes feel that we should support something/someone even if it means ignoring logic/facts
@@beno1129 The video missed quite a lot of points. Most obvious Mourinho's spell in Real Madrid. "He only beat Pep once" is quite different to the reality that Mourinho won La Liga with record points and forced Pep out of Barcelona. The worst part though, is that Alfie forgot about the whole "his players leaking his tactics" thing in Real that started Mourinho's "me vs them" paranoia.
As a Real Madrid supporter, I respected Mourinho’s coaching abilities. Even though he didn’t win any UCL titles at Madrid, he won the league and had reversed fortunes in Clasicos vs Barca. Overall, I think Jose got a raw deal at Man United and I think he should have taken a long sabbatical after his stint at Man U. Now Mourinho seems to become a “cult of personality” at any club he coaches. I don’t know if Mourinho will succeed at club level.
@@adonsaab1417 He always chooses rebuilding/building jobs. In Porto he had to rebuild after they failed to win the League for three years, in Chelsea and Inter he had to build a team that would challenge for the Champions League. In Real and United he had the job to revive a giant that had become a failure and lost its identity. In Real's case he succeeded by breaking La Liga's points record and driving Pep out of Barcelona. A Real Madrid that was in even worse condition than United as they were a last16 whore and had won 0 titles since Pep's arrival in Barcelona. In Tottenham, he had one job to win any kind of trophy. He nearly got there in the League Cup final but he was sacked before achieving the mission.
@@WERTYUIO821 true but never are the teams so far in the mud like Roma or spurs if Roma kept fonseca they would have likely finished bottom half while spurs were 14th before he took over even man United were a little worse than he would have liked
He didn't win UCL for Madrid, but I always respect that he was the one who brought the mentality for it to the club. Before Mourinho, Madrid consistently get knocked out in the round of 16. After him, they consistently go to the semi finals and beyond.
Mourinho most likely had a clause in his contract, that if Tottenham wins a trophy on his watch, he'll get a 10 mio. pound bonus or something like that. Since they were probably already planning to release him at the end of the season, they figured they'll save some money and fire him a few weeks earlier. It's pure speculation on my part, but the only good explanation i can come up with.
"...as useful as a fully-grown adult in Prince Andrew's bed." I'm dying. EDIT: finished the video, and the music comparison is an apt one. While I think Mourinho is past his peak, his influence on the game and the sheer brilliance of his prime cement him as a legend in my mind. One of my favorite managers ever.
Mou was never really an innovator, his tactics were effective, but nothing new. He was so successful, because he was just very likeable and personable for his players, and got the best out of them more with psychology than with footballing tactics. Now he is grumpy all the time, yet still expects his player to go far and beyond for him.
I'd say he reminds me more of George Graham in terms of how his teams play, his approach to management and how, like Graham (and Wenger), he was too set in his ways to adapt and evolve.
Mourinho is still a top coach and will prove doubters wrong. He did well at Man U with a squad that had been a bit lackluster in quality and did well at spurs in getting them to a final, and he’s doing well at Roma with the the squad available to him and I do believe he will win a trophy with Roma this season and finish in the top 4
the problem with Jose is that he set the bar too high when he started as a coach. But if you think about it, even what he did at United and Spurs very few coaches can do, if any at all. a few trophies with Utd, 81 points with a shit squad etc, and with Spurs I truly believe he could've won the league or at least finished easily in the top 4 if he had a decent CB, not to mention he was on the brink of giving Spurs some silverware before getting that weird sacking. I think peoples levels of demanding when it comes to Jose are just too high, sometimes even unfair, but if you pay close attention, he was actually massively overachieving both at United and Spurs.
I agree with most of what you said but Jose had spent 300 mil already on that united squad and played garbage football in 17/18 and got carried by de gea to 2nd place.
Also I don’t think he overachieved at all at united, he spent upwards of 350 mil in 3 years, never challenged for any meaningful trophy he did win two cups in year one but also simultaneously finished 6th in the league then in year 2 we got carried by our goalkeeper and in 18/19 he had to go because we were like 10th in the league. Also pretty much all of his signings were bad or lasted for a very very short time. So yeah he didn’t overachieve at all he underachieved considering the caliber of manager he was with the money he spent you would atleast expect a title challenge
@@princemarwin5182 have we all forgotten the shitty job Woodward was doing? This is a guy who gave Dalot, Fred and Lee Grant in a transfer window to Jose and asked him to win the league. I mean Mourinho definitely made a lot of mistakes, but to think he’s the one to blame for United not being able to compete with City it’s not true. And let’s face it, when he finished second with 81 points he had Phil Jones, Smalling, Valencia and Ashley Young in the back. You can’t really blame the coach for not winning the league with such squad. Meanwhile City was picking up 100 points and signing every player guardiola needed. I don’t think it was Jose who wasn’t capable of competing with City, but United’s board (and they still aren’t).
As a Roma fan I must say that if Fonseca or any other manager from Serie a were here instead of him we’d be just fucked, period. Considering a short team, injuries, covid and refs deliberately trying to sink us (look at the derby,the game against milan or juve, or venezia)I think he is doing a good job.
Having a mentor, but only as a 'translator', for the late, great Bobby Robson shows you how he was destined for great things. If your formative years are with Bobby, then you must be doing something right.
Chelsea fan here. Even I have to admit his greatest accomplishment was that 2010 Inter UCL win. How anyone could shut down that Messi, Xavi, Iniesta trio is unheard of.
No it was not. He greatest accomplishment was made with Porto when he won the UEFA cup and then the following season won the Champions League (they knocked out one of the best ever Man U teams) with them. No team has ever done that before or since and I don't think it's ever going to be done again.
Mourinho is one of the greatest managers of all-time, he's known as a serial winner. The expectations for him will always be incredibly high. Yes, he is past his prime as a manager. But no, he isn't done at the highest level. He can still do really well and win trophies, depending on the team and the time he is given. Roma shouldn't be expected to win the league right now, which they aren't. That doesn't mean he isn't doing good. He's doing very well.
@@angelosvlahos Έπρεπε να σε πει "Greek Guy" . Περίεργο που οι ξένοι δεν έχουν μάθει ότι το όνομα "Angelos" είναι Ελληνικό μετά τα ψυχολογικά που τους είχε δημιουργήσει ο Χαριστεας.
@@bp3366 Did you google translate what I said 👀? Lol. I was mostly joking. Most of the Chelsea, Porto, Inter and Real Madrid fans that grew up with Mourinho adore him. Mourinho was quite inspirational as he won the Champions League twice with teams that were not the favourites. He even forced Pep into leaving Barcelona. Winning Real the first titles since Pep's appointment in 2008, while playing a "perfect" counter attack with Real and braking La Liga record points.
Jose Mourinho’s failure at Man U and Tottenham showed that the impact of football managers nowadays is largely dependent of those who run the club. In case of Klopp, it is the club’s full support that wins Liverpool trophies. Even when the ranking of the team did not look good, when he wanted one of the most expensive CB in history, Klopp and the club are on the same boat. In case of Pep, the support and authority that the club grant him have been truly phenomenal. The amount of cash poured into those transfers has been insane. For Mourinho though, he seems to have lost that capacity of gaining the support. In Chelsea, the club was unaware of the aging defense line and bought in some trash defenders in his third season there. That was a mistake, but not an irreversible one. Nevertheless, he clicked the self destruction button. In Manchester United, no one in the club cares about playing good quality football, and there is no professionalism in the club. All the transfers were over priced and were presented to fans like a show. The mediocre players think themselves as CR7 or Messi. Although his team only got the second place in his second season, gaining 81points in the league has been a record for Man U in almost 10 years by now. So I actually think his achievements at Man U are pretty respectable, cause Man U after Sir Ferguson is a black hole, in which no one can possibly pull out great success. In Hotspurs, he just simply overestimated Levy’s ambition. Spurs is not ready to be a true big team yet. He was not heading toward the same goal that Levy wanted(titles vs top4 spot)
Still better than others post fergie managers and the one with better squad doesn't win trophy only 4th in the league to celebrate. Tottenham he got into final before being sacked, seriously its whatever owner is more dumb than FAM.
Alfie: Presents at least 4 arguments about Mourinho's decline. The IrishGuy: "Mourinho is the best, because the others are hipsters" Still I watch both of them every week for some reason.
I've watched 2 or 3 videos of the Irish guy, found him to be irritating and annoying, and not very thoughtful, never watched again. If i want uninformed rants, i can listen to random strangers in the next sports bar or pub. Even youtube stopped recommending his videos to me, after a while. If it weren't for comments here every once in a while, i would have forgotten HITC Sports even exists.
@@LegendNinja41 it’s more of a comedy channel over informed facts and content him and Alfie are complete opposites in what they do for HITC Alfie is the factual informative one while the Irish guys is the nut job ranter it’s a pretty clever way HITC get views both at the opposite end of the scale so depending on what you want you get
@@timsmith1323 when you look at it that way, definitely, wish it was funny. but ok, there's no rule that says talking about football has to be serious, people are allowed to just pump out content, do clickbait, over the top takes to get reactions etc.
You know the Irish Guy will come later today or tomorrow with a response. "How dare James insult the man I have defended numerous times because I have a brain made of a Sheppards Pie" 🤣🤣🤣
I find it so funny that Irish Guy kept crowing about how Jose was going to win Serie A with Roma and that Inter had zero chance of defending their title and we’re almost halfway through the season and Roma is WAAAY behind the current top four and Inter is top of the league 🙃
Im here after roma won our first trophy since 2006 and are tied for 2nd in serie a. Im not the biggest mourinho fan but he is definitely trying to get us a step up. Daje roma
Hey Alfie, can you do a video on Paul Mitchell, from a player languishing in league one and two of England. To becoming the transfer mastermind behind Southamptons rise back to the premier league, to his short Tottenham stint, links to Manchester United as head of transfers, head of recruitment & development of RB Leipzig to nearly becoming the Technical Director of Red Bull Football, and to now to the present, of him becoming the sporting director of Monaco.
Modern day football destroyed Jose there aren’t any Jose type players being breed at youth level anymore,defenders are now converted CDM,s and Left backs are converted wingers etc
@@mancunioner The whole argument is nonsense, first what is a Jose type player? Defenders being converted CDM,s and Left backs being converted wingers doesn't have any bearing on the case. Nothing to do with the vague idea of a "modern football", as if Jose wasn't able to use a computer or accept that are new tools available to judge player skills and improve their performance.
@@NunesSan so the best RB in the world according to a lot of people is Trent. He’s actually a CM, so his defensive abilities are mediocre at best. But everyone sees what he can do with the ball and thinks that’s what a RB needs to be. So basically you’re ending up with defensive players who can’t defend and goalkeepers who can’t do the job well enough. This is a manager who relied upon players who knew how to defend, hence the clean sheet and goals conceded record. So when the players that can perform that for you no longer exist then you look worse as a manager. Imagine Pep Guardiola is told he has to keep up the same level of football but he can only choose players that play in League 1. He wouldn’t be able to do it because those players wouldn’t have the technical quality needed to perform his tactics, and the issue now is players don’t have the tactical abilities required by Mourinho to fit into his tactical framework which is why he’s struggling more
@@mancunioner You are making too many assumptions about Mourinho. There's not a type of player or a size fit's all in a manager's tactics, that would make any team impossible to manage, because Mourinho looks for strong mentally and defensive players, doesn't mean these players don't exist or can't be worked with to achieve these qualities. I can't find any reason why Mourinho wouldn't have Trent Arnold in is team. A style of playing doesn't become obsolete or deprecated just because, a style of playing keeps improving and it's adjusted to the opponent side, that's this basic understanding that made Morinho win with a defensive Inter side against an all powerful and all attacking Pep Guardiola's Barcelona, and then lead him to another Champions League title.
Would love to see him go into international management now. He's had highs and lows at club management. Maybe that quest is done. Definitely hall of fame great status. Now, do great things with a talented Portugal squad. Unfortunately a squad that might not even make it to next year's World Cup.
Jose still have not failed a single club. You could argue Tottenham but the truth is he took them to a final that he didnt even get to play. Some say he failed a man united but he won 3 trophies with an awful squad, way worse than the one ole built up over the coming years. And he didn't achieve shit yet some say he turned man united around when he didn't win a single trophy and got beat by Jose's tottenham side 6-1 at his own ground. Mourinho is a victim of his own success. If he doesn't win a treble people will say he's a failure smh
🙄 He's a victim of his own poor attitude and lack of social skills. It works great when you're winning and with players that don't mind, but if you have players who will challenge you and you aren't winning it's another thing entirely. What was once charming and tolerable becomes poisonous and stifling.
nice try of changing the reality^^ he failed every club besides inter and porto - at every other club he had so much money that you have to win the cl or you failed !
@@denigster bruuh are you for real? winning the champions league with that united squad with phil jones and smalling in defence? or winning it with spurs with players like ben davies and harry winks? thats the dumbest shit ive ever heard.
@@ivarpihlblad5142 did he won the premier league with utd? his utd team was very lucky that they finished 2nd with 81 points, the amount of money they spent on transfers they should've been more closer to city, but they weren't, and at spurs everything kinda was against him from start, but why did he joined spurs still bewildered me, it was like, even if i do bad, nobody is going to criticize me, nothing to lose
He reached the League Cup final by beating the likes of Stoke and Brentford,who were both 2nd division sides at the time. He did fuck all at Spurs. The football was absolutely terrible,he failed.
Despite what Mourinho did at Spurs, he was still a whisker away from winning us a league cup, even if the football (and results) were atrocious at times. Considering his newfound success at Roma, I'd say that the closest parallel to Mourinho at the moment would be George Graham, who was also coincidently prevented from taking in charge of Spurs against Wenger's Arsenal in the 2001 FA Cup semi-final, Levy giving that job to Hoddle (although Hoddle did reach a League Cup final the season after, unfortunately that was one year too late...).
I'm portuguese and I want him to coach the Portugal national team after he leaves Roma. Even if he's not at he's peak, Mourinho is still miles and miles better than that donut who's there right now.
Day 9: Do a documentary on Guy Roux, a man who spent 44 years in total at AJ Auxerre as their manager (glad you’re having a dig at the Irish Guy with this, strange guy that man is)
@@kyletucker3811 shut up dude. How have United and spurs done post- Jose? Spinning pr for you dolts whilst winning f all. Social skills and accountability, cornball
@@dohnjoe4516 How has Real Madrid done since, if were looking at clubs after he left? Ah right, they won the UCL multiple times, and with worse squads than what they had under Mou. Maybe the "how have clubs done after he left"-argument isn't the right one here.
It boils down to two things only- not having an iconic club captain in the dressing room that sides with him. He had it at Porto and inter and that's where he won the most. The other thing which also links to the 1st bit,specially his time at porto- having a chairman/owner who backed him against every player. That was the big problem at real Madrid and man united.
@@coolgamingyoutubechannle not really in the sense, terry was an up and coming player in 2004 but Terry did play with desailly Deschamps, vialli etc old school players who gave terry the leadership examples he carried on.
Mou had one of the worst squad at Man Utd and still won a European title with it. He took the same Tottenhman squad that Pochettino saw as having reached its limit to an actual final. Conte himself wants to get rid of half of those players. Roma AS is a clearly untalented mid table squad.t Their best player is Tammy Abraham and Pallegrini, its a squad ready for a rebuilt and has been in need of one for a long time now. Mou is a top class coach his only mistake recently is going to clubs that are in need of a rebuilt and not having the patience to stick it through. If he rebuilds Roma and is a bit more patient, he would have done the impossible again.
The press and the fans inflated his ego so much that he can't do self-criticism anymore, for me he is and always will be a brilliant manager but he really needs to improve his behavior if he wants to be the 'special one' again.
Alfie, you nailed it on the head. Once again your angle on the Jose issue is spot on. Like him or not he always WAS entertaining. Seems totally uninspired by it all. Think he needs to take a year or so off to reset. Then take over the Portuguese national team. The great game is better with him in it. Never been a more fun post game press conference than Jose, only Roy Keane comes close. And yes he was a big reason I fell in love with the game as well. Love him, hate him but you just can't deny his legacy. Well done Alfie !
Jose is the best manager in the world, the greats are held to higher standards, if Messi scored 15 goals a season people would say " what is wrong with Messi ? " If most players scored 15 goals in a major European league people would say " he's a great player he scored 15 goals " Jose best win percentage in the last 80 years of any manager , do you think Jose wouldn't win with Madrid , City, Liverpool , PSG ? lol Jose GOAT Muourinho
Loved the video. Overall very balanced. You didn’t talk about the number of injuries Roma has. Guardiola and Koop would also struggle with such thin squad. Mourinho is still the very best in my opinion.
Twisting of circumstances. Mou is still great, I wish he was the Coach of PSG. Every other Coach has limitless amount of money to spend and are called genuises, Mourinho isn't backed since Man Utd.
Mourinho is literally the definition of a cheque book manager/needs a WC XI to win, 1st manager to spend 1bn, Inter with elite talents like (Eto'o, Sneijder, Maicon Cesar), carried that Inter team, Milito was the only real shock improvement, as he wasn't recognised as an elite player before or after Mourinho
Mourinho came to Madrid at one of the lowest points of their history. They had been eliminated from the knockout stage of the champions league about 6 years in a row. Often by teams like Lyon and Roma. They were incapable of competing against Barcelona. Mourinho transformed real Madrid. Alot of the success that the subsequent managers enjoyed, was due to the fact that he had laid the groundwork in fixing what was a severely broken team
His way worked, because he was very charismatic, very likeable. His players would go far and beyond for him. Nowadays he comes across as a grumpy old sourpuss, so his motivational skills are probably not what they used to be.
Give him a team like city , psg , Chelsea or even inter Milan to prove he’s not done !!! Roma is different project it takes time if u all think he’s done yes he done . Mou is a true genius and I feel sorry for all d dumbs out der thinking he’s not d same coacn anymore
The Irish Guy somehow still thinks he is one of the best managers in the world for some reason. Mou's time is up now, its clear he wasn't the manager he used to be.
He chooses the wrong clubs, Man U spurs and roma all had glimpses of success stretching over months, they simply couldnt keep them up. The same desire and form that spurs had for the first half of the season dried up, or was sabotaged by players like bale.
@@jean-paulwalters8855 you must be one of those that hasnt won shit and now spits on others work. Keep it up. Your club migh win someday. You brits lot think you are above others as usual but reality...
@@PlayRoomHR My teams 1 of the 3 elite clubs in Europe, we've won a lot thanks, Mourinho hasn't won a trophy in 6 years, hasn't won a domestic title in almost 8 years, what has he done in football lately, get beat by Bodo/Gibt, and get knocked out of the Europa League with a Tottenham team, who had Kane, Son, 4× CL winner in Bale, Hojibjerg, and he brought almost a whole 11, in the summer, same new at Roma, and they're nowhere near top 4, surely a WC manager like Mourinho, could hand pick any job he wants, how after Manchester United, has he ended up at Tottenham and Roma, if he's still a WC manager, that teams chase after him, these days, it's almost as if, he's the one desperately chasing for jobs, could have literally tooken the PSG or Bayern Munich job, (when Tuchel, was under pressure, and Kovac got sacked), why?, he's not a coach, that improves individuals, he's a tactical manager, who goes game to game, has had good defensive coaches, to help him set a compact defence, and then rely on individuals to take the opportunities in the final 3rd, it's what his periodic trainings based around, it will be interesting to see once he gets better defenders, what he can offer up
@@PlayRoomHR I'm not talking about Roma or Tottenham, you asked what my team is, I said Man United, they're amongst the Elite with RM, Bayern Munich and Barca, I said if he's still a world class manager, then surely he could kick back, and teams like PSG, Bayern Munich, who (in PSG, were struggling under Tuchel, and Bayern, just sacked Kovac, RM, which just saw Zidane leave), would have gone after him, without even thinking twice, as he's still a "world class" manager, instead it seemed to me like he was desperate, and picked Tottenham, without doing his homework, and forgetting his traditional managerial style, even that team under Potch, needed a proper coach, like Potch, who could improve the individuals player by player, and Levy, who doesn't spend money, he was even close to joining Arsenal, who are a carbon copy of Tottenham and United, he didn't need to go to Tottenham if he was such a WC manager, as RM, PSG and Bayern were available, from what I'm aware, Bayern, just didn't want Mourinho, as his antics, and playing style counter-reacted against what Bayern are traditionally as a club, RM didn't want him, due to big characters, in his 1st RM stint refusing to work with him again, and players like Neymar and Mbappe, didn't want to work under Mourinho, and PSG, are generally controlled by their players, so after Poch left, he desperately snapped the Tottenham job, without doing his homework
Mourinho created so many antibodies, that now, because he is in a downturn all the jackals want to feast on his body. Even in his "darker period" he did an amazing job at Manchester United achieving more than Ole Solskjær ever could, and with worse players and less resources. On Tottenham he had a great start, but it was evident that the peak performance of those players had been reached 2 seasons ago with the Champions League final, hope he has enough time to work in Roma to produce the results he deserves, I truly believe he still is one of the best managers of European football, and will prove it once again.
Your comparing Jose to Ole, that just shows the decline in Mourinho, that your comparing Mourinho, to a Norwegian coach, and even Ole finished 2nd with United, literally the same place, as well as 3rd the year before, Rashford, Martial, Lindelof, Lingard, Mata, Pogba, Matic, Mctominay, Shaw, Fred, De Gea, same players Mourinho had, Lukaku > Cavani (and younger), Sanchez (even in decline), still way better than Dan James, only really AWB > Young/Valencia (just), so literally the same team bar AWB, Maguire, Greenwood, they both achieved the same goal in the league (finishing 2nd), Ole also finished 3rd, with (along with LVG 15/16 squad) the worst United squad in history, in Ole's 1st year, Mourinho won a Europa League against a inexperienced Ajax side (manager)
@@jean-paulwalters8855 With the same players on good form, on a head to head match Mourinho is a better manager, than the 3 of them. Mourinho by himself has almost more trophies than the other 3 managers combined.
This video really understates his time in Madrid imo, they were unlucky not to achieve more and a league title over what many at the time already thought was the greatest team ever is an amazing achievement. Real Madrid was the peak of Mourinho's career in terms of on pitch ability and also of the infamous siege mentality. El Clasico grew so vitriolic during his stay in Spain that the captains of both sides felt it was detrimental to the brilliant Spanish national team who were at their peak during that time as well, and the likes of Casillas attempting to make amends between the two camps is also reportedly the beginning of his fallout with Mourinho. Inter's players cried when Mourinho left the club, they loved him, but despite how good Madrid were he left their dressing room a war zone and nearly forced out their legendary captain. He has never been the same since his sacking from Madrid, he took that bitterness with him to Chelsea once things started going downhill, lost most of his charm in the media and as you said has grown toxic towards his own players. The game has passed him by tactically and in terms of man-management which probably feeds into this behavior. Chelsea's home defeat against Simeone's Atlético in the 2014 CL semis really marks the end of his time as an elite manager in my eyes, he was out-done by a team in the same style and mentality that he used to be an expert in ten years before. He never again competed at the top level in Europe, even his league winning Chelsea team crashed out in the CL RO16 and the furthest he ever got with United was the RO16 against Sevilla.
Brilliant video Alfie. I sometimes fall into the nostalgic Mourinho defending trap. It is thought provoking to hear that I might have just fell victim to his siege mentality tactics. Oddly enough, it seems like Mourinho's tactics were a self fulfilling prophecy, at least in his mind. Now, it is that same siege mentality that is hindering his performances. wonder video
Alfie is a Pep Guardiola fan. This should be at a disclaimer at the start of the video You should pay close attention to his supposed failures at Spurs: Kane won Golden boot and had most assists. Spurs were top of the league for a great part of the season. CBs got injured and he got Joe Rodon from Championship as replacement. Spurs were the second team to score 100 goals behind Bayern. Won trophies at Man United. Roma just thrashed Lazio, made them go first half with zero shots on target. Beat Atalanta etc. I will repeat again, Alfie is a Pep fan. His opinion on Mourinho is skewed
JOSE MOURINHO UNIÃO DE LEIRIA ⚪⭕🔴 2001➖2002 Mourinho coached União De Leiria 19 games and when in January(during the season) he signed for Porto Leiria were 4th in the table having the second most goals scored and 3rd least conceded. PORTO 2002➖2004🔵⚪Replaced Machado as a coach in January 2002 when Porto was 5ft in league. In the remaining 15 games Porto scored more than anyone (35) and finished 3rd. In his first full season won Treble: the league with record number of points at the time,Taça de Portugal and UEFA cup. In 3rd season won Portuguese super cup, the league AND The Champions league WITH Porto😮❗6 trophies in 2 seasons CHELSEA 2004➖2008🔵🔵 In 1st season won the Premier league conceding only 15 goals(the least in Prem history) and losing only once( and it was just 1_0 to ManCity). In Champions league won 5➖4 vs Barcelona but lost to eventual winners Liverpool 1➖0 with a "ghost goal" for some people. 🔵In 2nd season won Community shield and league with 91 points conceding the least. In the CHL group lost once (the only game they conceded) lost to Barcelona 3-2 on aggregate and in fa cup lost to eventual champions Liverpool by 1 goal. 🔵In 3rd season won Fa Cup and league cup, finished 2nd conceding fewest goals in league(24)and losing the least matches, in CHL lost on penalties to Liverpool in Semifinals🔵In the start of 4th season left after disagreements with owner. At Chelsea won 2 PL's, 2 League cup's, Fa cup and Fa Communityshield= 6 trophies. INTER 2008➖2010⚫🔵 First season won Supercoppa and Serie A but lost 2-0 on aggregate to ManU in CHL. In second season won TREBLE🏆🏆🏆. Also won against rivals AC Milan 4-0 and beat THAT Fc Barcelona side 3-2 to reach the final. Won 4 trophies in 2 seasons. REAL MADRID ⚪⚪2010➖2013 First season(2010➖2011) at Real Madrid finished 2nd( with 96 points)only 4 points behind the best team of all time(FcBarcelona) scoring 102 goals(the most), winning CopaDelRey. In Champions league unbeaten(only 2_2 draw vs Milan, the only game they conceded) in Groupstage and lost in semifinals against that Great Barcelona team. Second season(2011➖2012) won the league with 100 points and scoring 121 goals and losing only twice. In copa lost in quarter finals to Barcelona by only1 goal, won all group stage games in CHL but lost to Bayern on penalties in Semi-finals. In 3rd season(2012➖13) won supercopa vs Barcelona, finished second in league scoring 103 goals, lost the CDR final to Atletico and in CHL lost to Dortmund in Semifinals. Was unbeaten at home. Left after 3rd season after winning La liga,CDR and Supercopa=3 trophies Return to Chelsea🔵🔵 2013➖2016 Lost to Bayern Munchen on penalties in Supercup,lost the International champions cup final to Real Madrid CF finished 3rd in pl 4 points away from title having best defence(27 conceded), beating Arsenal 6-0 in PL, losing to ManCity in Fa Cup 5ft round and same round to Sunderland in League cup. In CHL lost to finalist Atletico Madrid in semifinals🔵In 2nd season won the Premier league and having best defence and losing the least. Won the Fa Cup, was unbeaten in CHL groupstage but losing to PSG in roundof16 after extratime goal🔵In 3rd season lost community shield final to Arsenal by 1 goal but after bad start in Premier League left. Won Premier league and League cup =2 trophies. Manchester United 🔴⚫2016➖2018 In first year won Europaleague, communityshield and efl cup. Was better team but Lost in fa cup vs Chelsea. Finished 6th having 2nd best defence(29 conceded) but 15 draws. 2nd season lost supercup to Real Madrid finished 2nd having 2nd best defence. Lost Fa cup final to Chelsea and surprisingly lost to Seville in CHL. 3rd season started really badly and he got sacked. In 3 season won 3 trophies.
Tottenham⚪⚪ On 20th November 2019 Mourinho was appointed as the manager. Tottenham were 14th and winless in the past 5 games. Mourinho won his first 3 matches and managed to guide Spurs to 6th place. They lost on penalties to Norwich in the 5th round of FA cup. Mourinho managed to beat his old rival Guardiola (2-0) and Tottenham's local rivals Arsenal (2-1). Had the season started when Mourinho took over (12th Prem matchday) Tottenham would have finished 4th in 2019/20 season.
Mourinho's second season started with a 1-0 loss to Everton but after that Tottenham went on a 10 game unbeaten run (memorably beating Manchester United 6-1). At times it looked as Spurs could have challenged for the title but their form dropped. The whole season was marked with costly individual mistakes which costed many points. During the season fans criticized Mourinho for being too defensive. In the FA cup they lost to Everton 5-4 after dominating the game and playing attacking football. After that game Spurs went on a bad run of form which included them losing 3-0 to Dinamo Zagreb and being KO of the UEL. Mourinho was sacked on 19th April 2021 just days before the EFL Cup Final, which could have been Tottenham's first trophy in 13 years.
Mourinho's time at Tottenham was difficult as he wasn't able to get rid of those costly individual mistakes and some players weren't commited enough. Mourinho himself was often too defensive and that didn't help either. His time at Spurs could have been much better...
AS Roma 🔴💛 👀😉🔜 So 25 trophies won in 18 years Also to those talking about how defensive he plays: NOBODY scored more goals than Porto over his 2 full seasons in charge there, his Inter were top scorers in SerieA in each of his 2 years in Italy, at La Liga his Madrid in 3 seasons scored more than Barcelona: 326 vs 324,scoring 100+ in EVERY of his 3 seasons there, in his first season at Chelsea they scored 14 more than ManU that season. He's been in top3 every season as a manager (except in 2016/17 6th). And also he deserves a little bit credit for those Champions leagues Real Madrid won later. They got important Experience in those 3 semifinals and only season after he left they won it. Before Mourinho had arrived they had reached quarters once in 7 years.
A good coach is the one who wins the champions league with a team like Porto. A good coach is the one who wins a champions league with a team like Inter milan when they were then an unknown quantity and the likes of Barca. Real madrid. Man united and Bayern were the real deal. A good coach is the one who wins the spanish league during during his second year when barcelona was unrivaled then. A good coach is the one who wins the league with chelsea with an average squad for the first time in three decades and comes back to win it two more times. A good coach is the one who takes over manchester united after sir alex and wins three trophies and finishes 2nd on the epl log with a squad which was not even half of what is there the ronaldos. the brunos. the varanes the cavannis the sanchos. the greenwoods name them. Since his departure man u has never won a trophy and they want to call this man a failure my foot. A good manager is the one who takes a lousy team like spurs to a cup final in 12 months yet this team has never won a trophy in 12 years and he is fired. They might not want to admit it but inwardly many man u fans know that jose was the man to take man u to the next level. They know a mistake was made by sacrificing this man and keeping the virus pogba. Pogba is there but where a the trophies. Ýes trust jose he is a great coach and is still one of the greatest coaches around. Just give him the resources at Roma and you will see a porto repeat. Watch the space
He became successful with those players who wanted to give 100% in every game, players who could fight like beasts in the game. Nowadays players like pogba are more interested in social media than football and it is really difficult to find that old robust mentality in today's generation.
I honestly can’t believe the downfall sometimes… Champions league with Porto, Treble with Inter, least goals conceded in an EPL season with Chelsea (04/05), most goals scored in a La Liga season with Real (11/12). But now…
Modern day players simply can't handle him. He used to take on for the team because they'd do the same for him. Nowadays they have disasterclasses every week.
To me it seemed like Mourinho doesn´t enjoy managing, he´s far more happy as a pundit. One thing about Guardiola: has he ever managed a club without basically endless amount of money? I recall Barcelona, Bayern and ManCity, none of which were poor at any time he was present there. If so, I´d really like to see how he´d do in, say, Hull City or Crewe Alexandra, or maybe in the Finnish Premier League?
I just think there's a real problem with the way our society views people who say exactly what they mean. Jose says what he means and means what he says, so we see him as a villain with a siege mentality. No, he just doesn't butter things up - which is exactly how the rest of us should be. If Klopp was thinking what you think he was, about Karius, but said something completely different, that doesn't make him a better person than Mourinho, it makes him a dishonest man who'd rather save face than be truthful. That's the clearest definition of cowardice in my eyes. Mourinho was never 'the special one' but he is a man who refuses to play by the unwritten rules of society, because those rules were ridiculous in the first place.
HITCSevens, please do a video about the best XI in the Premier League since 1992 in each position e.g Schmeichel, Cech in goal, Neville, Azpilicueta, Walker at right back. It would be brilliant.
Anyone who knows anything about Romas situation and where that club was last year to where they are this year knows that Mourinho is practically blameless loool, this videos seems a bit weird to make at this point in time
As a Roma fan I can say that the work Mou has done is immense within the club. There is a lot wrong with the club and the team due to past ownership and poor management and a whole host of other problems from agents to the mayor of Rome. If he is given time and the support in the transfer market, which I think he will. Roma will be a good side. But we have to remember last season, with only a couple of different players They only just finished 7th. To draw to Napoli, nearly beat juve and show other promising signs is more than we should have expected anyway. Give it time, give him a bit more money and he’ll make this team his own I’m sure if it. I feel there is far too much criticism of Jose and of roma, when if any other club were under these circumstances they’d be cut a lot more slack.
I do think there are criticisms that are valid for mou, I also think he’s not the same that he used to be. But I think his ‘downfall’ is being overplayed.
And on the point of Roma’s transfers - mentioned toward the end of the video. These transfers were made out of necessity. Viña at LB a was to replace injured spina. Rui Patricio was a necessary transfer given the performance of Pau Lopez last year, and was also relatively cheap. Tammy Abraham was replacing dzeko and is often quoted at being 40 million or whatever. But this is paid yearly, and Chelsea have a buyback clause for 80 million I think. So that’s essentially a 2 year loan costing 10 million. Then either keep him for 30 million. Or let him go and make 40 million. Yes I agree Eldor wasn’t a good signing but that’s only one, the rest were either good value or direct necessary replacements.
amen
If Mourinho is in decline then allegri is falling from a roller coaster. Honestly i think mou is doing a very good job this season so far. If roma win the conference league that will be an amazing season. Also coppa italia could be another trophy roma could realistically challenge for.
Exactly. And despite maybe 4 or 5 games the style of play has been very attacking.. Roma are the 2nd best team in terms of shots in série A. And the team who hit the woodwork the most as well.
Also tammy abraham is having his best season under him with 10 goals so far already
Nearly beating this Juventus side is no achievement
Agree
This has to be the worst thing the British have ever done to the Irish. You have just shattered the Irish Guy's entire world view
I know right, like a revenge seems to me, epic gamer move you did here Alfie.
Christ above
He delivered the killing blow by just putting a picture with "special one my arse"
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Mourinho was unfairly sacked at Tottenham. He had Kane and Son on fire 🔥they were statistically the 2nd best duo of all time behind Mourinho's Lampard and Drogba link up. They beat Man United 6-1, became the 2nd fastest team behind Bayern to get 100 goals for the season and took them to a Carabao Cup final. I hope he succeeds at AS Roma.
He nearly destroyed Spurs
@@81Fitzerz no he didn't . The players did .
@@natalkumar6132 Conte has the same players?
@@81Fitzerz The point is Jose was good . The problem was with the CB position . He could have won the Carabao Cup if it wasn't for his sacking and I have a feeling that he will comeback stronger with Roma . Trust me he has been through a lot and will look for a rebound .
@@natalkumar6132 your wrong . That's my point . But you have every right to be wrong . It won't last at Roma either. He will be on my Monday night football pretty soon in the new year . We might even see him at Newcastle
To be honest, many people feel that Mourinho failed at Real Madrid. Although his time at Real Madrid is not a successful one and as a fan, I would never want him back, he actually did something very important in Real Madrid. He was against the best Barcelona Team of the Time which stopped him from getting a load of successes. At that time, beating Barcelona was a myth to many teams. But he instilled the idea inside the players that we can beat Barca and we have the capabilities. I still remember that in 2013, we defeated Barcelona with our B team. He had created a lot of issues in the squad but his squad set up actually helped Ancelotti to gain the La decima and we can never deny that. He was the first one to really break Barcelona's dominance. Statistically and trophy wise, there is very little success. But if you go deep, he really did something very important in Real Madrid and as a fan, I respect that.
People uses to think Guardiola as successful, but looking closely, he won his champions league a decade ago and with Prime Barcelona team. Then he managed teams like Bayern, Manchester City and spend a huge amount of money to build the squad. With all these resources, he only went to the final last year and thats the best achievement. I am not comparing Mourinho and Guadriola. I am just straightening up some facts.
You said that all very well. As a Spurs fan, and one who never liked Jose (still can’t believe he was coach at Spurs, whether for 18 days or the 18 or so months).
But you can’t deny his ability to win that one game that seems not possible. And use his defensive philosophy to dictate not only his team but the other team too, and have the game played the way he wants it (typically the slow & less exciting defensive tactics). This is why no matter how much we all wanted him gone, sacking right before the league cup Final v City & Pep, you just never know what could happen in any game, no matter how great one team is & the other how bad they are. Plus the Jose V Pep rivalry adding one more chapter, from when it started as you mentioned when at Madrid and beating the Dominate Barcelona teams.
And your right about Pep, which is why he will always have that criticism from all fans( except for Barca, Bayern, City). Whenever he is done at City, if he were to go to mid table team , or lower, in any league, and see how great his tactics work without buying the best players from all over the world. Pep is great, no doubt, but like coaches in any sport who only coach when they have best players, or ability to buy best players (this is true in NBA too), he will always have the one question mark about him, despite him going into Hall of Fame, or whatever honors he receives after his career, as one of greatest coaches!
not exactly...... I feel, that the fact that Barca was dominating spain(and also europe), is not necessarily because they had unbeatable squad....... I mean, they HAD truly amazing team, but one of the big factors why RM couldn't challenge them in bigger way, was because those years were also a transition years between generations for RM...... it was those years where RM started disolving the famous "galacticos" and started building "Ronaldo-era" of RM....... and during that "chaos", they obviously couldn't challenge such incredible Barca...... but as soon as RM formed a solid squad with desired players, they started catching up with Barca quite easily...... those last seasons of RM with Ronaldo, the team was just as good as any era of Real Madrid...... they won league and also UCL
His time at RM wasn't successful? Are you on coke?
@@apexsom5954 You did not read my comment properly. Please read it again.
@@itkojecockot you are right...But at that time, Barcelona team was really unbeatable and you would feel like you can never take the ball away from them. So the team was good and getting better and was trying to beat the Prime Barcelona. In my eyes, Mourinho was the person who instilled the idea that, you can beat them. He won a league match against Barcelona using almost a B team.
Pity there isn't much attention paid to his tumultuous time at Real Madrid, which is arguably the biggest puzzle piece in explaining Jose's decline. Think Jose's time in England and Italy were mere prologues to his time in Real Madrid (the pinnacle of his managerial career) and his war with the club that rejected him for some young upstart named Pep. His magic was still evident at Madrid, and his 2010/2011 team was amongst his best and successfully drove Pep out of Barca (though Barca itself remained the premier football club of its era). However, to unseat prime Barca, he relied on scorched earth tactics that burnt both Barca and his own team's psyche out, and eventually led to him warring against Madrid icons like Iker Cassillas - thereafter, his hold over his players and his club slipped. Next, he returned to a Chelsea that saw him as their Shankly, and after 2 great seasons his belligerence - bred during his time in Madrid - caused him to begin warring against all those who wronged him, even Eva Caniero. No manager can maintain control over their dressing room for an extended period of time with a modus operandi predicated on managerial total war against all who wronged him. Once the wool has been pulled over everyone's eyes and players / supporters / media no longer worshipped every word he said, there was no turning back.
I agree, for some reason Alfie skipped that part and I may say, he showed favouritism over Pep.
Mourinho had his tactics leaked to the press during his time in Madrid which also ducked him up afterwards.
Lol, you guys are mad. He isnt a yes man and thats why he is great. Primma donnas dont belong in football. If they do, thats why you dont win nothing...
Still amazed at how after Madrid was assured to finish top of the group 2 games before the end of the group phase he told 2 players during the game to try to get a red card so that they wouldn't be booked in the last game which would have saw them miss the last 16 round and the players happily did it with Ramos even shaking the referee's hand after he got sent off. That embodies both the genius and the overwhelming insanity jose had at Madrid
Mourinhos real have the la liga all time goals record in a season 121 and the all time points record in a season 100. Both better than "the best team in history" peps barca. Mou had a much worse squad as well.
@@specialperson335 pep improves players tats why he squad looks more better than the galacticos bought by mou madrid mourinho unfortunately leaves squads worse off than wat he left so no barca had academy graduates which pre Guardiola had struggled but under him were improved n made world class
I do like the fact that you didn't fall into the typical mourinho bashing agenda and you actually was coherent and fair at the end.
Personally I think that Jose is definitely a genius of the game. A lone wolf who from the start wanted to set himself apart. He famously said in an interview " I don't belong to the football tribe. I love football but I'm not part of its tribe" That has been true from day one both in his succes and failures.
He also is one of the most fascinating sports figures to analyze. His mentality his career his amazing highs and some huge lows. I personally think that everything changed during the summer of 2015. People say he lost it. No. You don't go from best manager in the greatest league on earth to relegation within 5 months because the game has past you by
I think it was psychological. Fabregas publicly said the players abused of the thrust jose gave after that title and mourinho felt betrayed and became isolated and full of rage which led to the first game back of the new season and the Eva incident. From that moment he never looked happy again.
It should also be pointed out that mourinho was very close to his father. He would call him after every game for years and he died at around that time too. While he might never go back to his prime that lasted an amazing 12 years or so. He can definitely still do great things until the end of his career and I'm banking on a succes at Roma by a trophy and a very good 2nd season
Anyway great video
He fell into the opposite side. He barely talked about Mourinho's Real and how much his tactics being leaked to the press ducked him up.
Also against Pep at the time, Mourinho's first season saw him winning the Copa Del Rey(the first competition Real won since Pep's arrival in Barcelona) and the next season he made Pep leave by winning the La Liga on record points. That is not "he just beat him once" like Alfie said.
He’s finished, he’s been finished ever since he nearly got Chelsea relegated maybe even before that in his final season with Real Madrid.
@@WERTYUIO821 I doubt Pep decided to leave because Jose beat him to the title once, he literally won it three times before in a row, you think one loss will make him leave.
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He prove that Barcelona indeed actually bleed which at a time with Pep's tactics becoming the "new hot thing, no one can beat them" it is quite huge.
@@WERTYUIO821 100 points 121 goals. Most away wins ever in a season. Most wins period in a season. Most points. Most goals. When you think about the amazing teams la Liga had for decades this is outstanding. And some still say he failed there
At his peak though there are very few managers in history who can rival him.
Funny he lost repeatedly to pep and fergie
@@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716 not true in any form... Had a great record against fergie and is a historically a better manager than Pep since he has never proved that he can conquer a challenge.
@@specialperson335 pep ans fergie have won more trophies in a shorter amount of time than moanrhino
@@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716 well true but not true. For me Fergie is the goat so im not even going to include him in this debate. Mourinho averaged basically 2 trophies a year from 2002 to 2012 with weaker clubs winning 2 champions leagues. If his whole career to peps whole career so far then yes pep has won more in a shorter time but if you compare mourinhos career up until the same point where Pep is now then mourinho has more trophies with weaker clubs. People forget that Pep has always had thr best teams in the world, he is yet to face a challenge.
@@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716 and Bob paisley beats the lot of them for trophies won in the shortest time he took 9 years to do what Fergie did in 26 just with more European cups in the locker only thing Ferguson won more of was league titles because he was in the job longer and that’s only by 4 in 17 years longer in the job, fergie averaged 1.46 trophies a season paisley 2.22 a season
The fact that United and Spurs haven’t performed any better since he left says a lot
I can see United performing much better in the future than how they did when he was there. They actually have a decent squad and an actual manager.
Why you left out Real Madrid, where Mou stayed much longer? Oh right, after he left they won the UCL mutiple times, and with worse squads than they had under Mourinho.
@@Jonathanizer 👍👍
@@Jonathanizer Mourinho built the spine of that multi CL winning team, and he did much better than his predecessors and beat arguably the best club side of all time to the league. Bringing up his RM stint is not the gotcha moment you think it is
@@Jonathanizer Worse squads? That's not true. Real Madrid had great squads to win the UCL
Mourinho is one of the greatest managers ever! Period.
Has someone who watches serie A week in week out sorry but i disagree on this view alfie.
Roma squad is made up of 16 17 players that are actually of a standard to fight for European places and apart from the 6 1 bodo glint result roma are meeting expectations. Mourinho switched halfway during the season from a 4231 to 352 and look a whole lot better for it.
If you are going to do a rise and fall video do one on allegri who has really collapsed into mediocrity.
Alfie did not comment on as roma as he said he needed to assess his time at roma but he reviewed his seasons b4 roma and hw it has been steady decline from the levels he set in the 2000s when he conquered europe n mourinho is no longer sought after by big clubs which shows his decline from big clubs wanting his signature on big contracts to now at roma signing small contracts n being payed less than in his glory days
I stopped watching when he said "he's had a torrid time at Roma". Exposed himself badly with that comment, shows beyond any doubt he knows absolutely nothing about roma or serie a, how is anyone supposed to take anything he says seriously after that
Roma has spent a lot in the summer for a Serie A team yet Fonseca had more points last year at this point
@@nyasha_ish
Alfie didn't do enough research on Mourinho based on the fact that he messed up Pep vs Mourinho's rivalry in Spain. In reality Mourinho was the clear victor as he won La Liga on record points which made Pep left Barcelona as a result.
This is quite different to "he only beat Pep once".
You must be watching some other Serie A that I... in mine Roma looses matches systematically, and not only with the Italian giants (Bologna, Empoli, Venezia aren't giants)
As a Chelsea fan I was a bit hostile throughout this video, but the ending really framed it well with the band analogy.
Still committing to that siege mentality I see
Will never forgive you lot for infecting us with him.
You can be a fan without becoming hostile to the truth. The video was factual and devoid of sentiment. Sadly, as humans we sometimes feel that we should support something/someone even if it means ignoring logic/facts
@@beno1129
The video missed quite a lot of points. Most obvious Mourinho's spell in Real Madrid.
"He only beat Pep once" is quite different to the reality that Mourinho won La Liga with record points and forced Pep out of Barcelona.
The worst part though, is that Alfie forgot about the whole "his players leaking his tactics" thing in Real that started Mourinho's "me vs them" paranoia.
As a Real Madrid supporter, I respected Mourinho’s coaching abilities. Even though he didn’t win any UCL titles at Madrid, he won the league and had reversed fortunes in Clasicos vs Barca. Overall, I think Jose got a raw deal at Man United and I think he should have taken a long sabbatical after his stint at Man U. Now Mourinho seems to become a “cult of personality” at any club he coaches. I don’t know if Mourinho will succeed at club level.
Mourinho doesn't know how to pick a job it's a shame since he is one of the GOATs
He will. Just wait and see.
@@adonsaab1417
He always chooses rebuilding/building jobs. In Porto he had to rebuild after they failed to win the League for three years, in Chelsea and Inter he had to build a team that would challenge for the Champions League. In Real and United he had the job to revive a giant that had become a failure and lost its identity. In Real's case he succeeded by breaking La Liga's points record and driving Pep out of Barcelona. A Real Madrid that was in even worse condition than United as they were a last16 whore and had won 0 titles since Pep's arrival in Barcelona. In Tottenham, he had one job to win any kind of trophy. He nearly got there in the League Cup final but he was sacked before achieving the mission.
@@WERTYUIO821 true but never are the teams so far in the mud like Roma or spurs if Roma kept fonseca they would have likely finished bottom half while spurs were 14th before he took over even man United were a little worse than he would have liked
He didn't win UCL for Madrid, but I always respect that he was the one who brought the mentality for it to the club. Before Mourinho, Madrid consistently get knocked out in the round of 16. After him, they consistently go to the semi finals and beyond.
Tottenham sacked HIM, before a cup final. A bit bizarre.
It’s Spurs so not really. And that’s coming from a Spurs fan
@@zerofox641 you think you would have had a better chance with jose in charge of final?
Any chance spurs had in that final went then
Mourinho most likely had a clause in his contract, that if Tottenham wins a trophy on his watch, he'll get a 10 mio. pound bonus or something like that. Since they were probably already planning to release him at the end of the season, they figured they'll save some money and fire him a few weeks earlier. It's pure speculation on my part, but the only good explanation i can come up with.
They weren't beating Man City anyways
"...as useful as a fully-grown adult in Prince Andrew's bed."
I'm dying.
EDIT: finished the video, and the music comparison is an apt one. While I think Mourinho is past his peak, his influence on the game and the sheer brilliance of his prime cement him as a legend in my mind. One of my favorite managers ever.
That made me comment lol
Mourinho is turning into Wenger. Innovators of the game who stopped innovating and allowed the rest of the competition to catch up with them.
Mou was never really an innovator, his tactics were effective, but nothing new. He was so successful, because he was just very likeable and personable for his players, and got the best out of them more with psychology than with footballing tactics. Now he is grumpy all the time, yet still expects his player to go far and beyond for him.
Did Wenger ever throw his players under the bus in his later years?
I'd say he reminds me more of George Graham in terms of how his teams play, his approach to management and how, like Graham (and Wenger), he was too set in his ways to adapt and evolve.
Mourinho is still a top coach and will prove doubters wrong. He did well at Man U with a squad that had been a bit lackluster in quality and did well at spurs in getting them to a final, and he’s doing well at Roma with the the squad available to him and I do believe he will win a trophy with Roma this season and finish in the top 4
Where are people defending that "Mourinho is finished" after Roma's 4-1 win against Atalanta?
This title aged terribly
Sure bout that?
😂people feel conference league is nothing more than a carabao cup at best😂@@davidevalente1188
This aged perfect
Jose is not just a coach. He is an emotion. I really wish he wins a big title with a tier 2 team and celebrate right in the face of the opponent😆
Alfie is a Pep Guardiola fan.
This should be at a disclaimer at the start of the video
I love your comment lol
the problem with Jose is that he set the bar too high when he started as a coach. But if you think about it, even what he did at United and Spurs very few coaches can do, if any at all. a few trophies with Utd, 81 points with a shit squad etc, and with Spurs I truly believe he could've won the league or at least finished easily in the top 4 if he had a decent CB, not to mention he was on the brink of giving Spurs some silverware before getting that weird sacking. I think peoples levels of demanding when it comes to Jose are just too high, sometimes even unfair, but if you pay close attention, he was actually massively overachieving both at United and Spurs.
I agree with most of what you said but Jose had spent 300 mil already on that united squad and played garbage football in 17/18 and got carried by de gea to 2nd place.
Also I don’t think he overachieved at all at united, he spent upwards of 350 mil in 3 years, never challenged for any meaningful trophy he did win two cups in year one but also simultaneously finished 6th in the league then in year 2 we got carried by our goalkeeper and in 18/19 he had to go because we were like 10th in the league. Also pretty much all of his signings were bad or lasted for a very very short time. So yeah he didn’t overachieve at all he underachieved considering the caliber of manager he was with the money he spent you would atleast expect a title challenge
@@princemarwin5182 have we all forgotten the shitty job Woodward was doing? This is a guy who gave Dalot, Fred and Lee Grant in a transfer window to Jose and asked him to win the league. I mean Mourinho definitely made a lot of mistakes, but to think he’s the one to blame for United not being able to compete with City it’s not true. And let’s face it, when he finished second with 81 points he had Phil Jones, Smalling, Valencia and Ashley Young in the back. You can’t really blame the coach for not winning the league with such squad. Meanwhile City was picking up 100 points and signing every player guardiola needed. I don’t think it was Jose who wasn’t capable of competing with City, but United’s board (and they still aren’t).
@@hank12-z7w Dalot and Fred are good players it was the other shits that Ed Woodward brought in which harmed the club .
EXACTLY my thoughts! Nicely put.
As a Roma fan I must say that if Fonseca or any other manager from Serie a were here instead of him we’d be just fucked, period. Considering a short team, injuries, covid and refs deliberately trying to sink us (look at the derby,the game against milan or juve, or venezia)I think he is doing a good job.
Belive him
Good result overnight though, just when Atalanta look like challenging for the Scudetto again they slip up...
Roma fan here, thanks for the reverse jinx lmao
5:30 “…who engage in an almost cult-like adoration of Mourinho.”
*looks at a certain Irish Guy*
Having a mentor, but only as a 'translator', for the late, great Bobby Robson shows you how he was destined for great things. If your formative years are with Bobby, then you must be doing something right.
I’m sorry but when he came second with United and and FA cup final the United fans where saying Jose out and when ole comes second he’s amazing
Chelsea fan here. Even I have to admit his greatest accomplishment was that 2010 Inter UCL win. How anyone could shut down that Messi, Xavi, Iniesta trio is unheard of.
Bayern shut them double standard
No it was not. He greatest accomplishment was made with Porto when he won the UEFA cup and then the following season won the Champions League (they knocked out one of the best ever Man U teams) with them. No team has ever done that before or since and I don't think it's ever going to be done again.
Mourinho is one of the greatest managers of all-time, he's known as a serial winner. The expectations for him will always be incredibly high. Yes, he is past his prime as a manager. But no, he isn't done at the highest level. He can still do really well and win trophies, depending on the team and the time he is given. Roma shouldn't be expected to win the league right now, which they aren't. That doesn't mean he isn't doing good. He's doing very well.
Irish Guy, is that you?
@@tonyvillicana7117 do i look like Irish Guy?
@@angelosvlahos
Έπρεπε να σε πει "Greek Guy" . Περίεργο που οι ξένοι δεν έχουν μάθει ότι το όνομα "Angelos" είναι Ελληνικό μετά τα ψυχολογικά που τους είχε δημιουργήσει ο Χαριστεας.
@@WERTYUIO821 I think it's moreso a joke about how much Irish Guy adores Mourinho, rather than misjudging him based on his name of Angelos...
@@bp3366
Did you google translate what I said 👀? Lol. I was mostly joking. Most of the Chelsea, Porto, Inter and Real Madrid fans that grew up with Mourinho adore him. Mourinho was quite inspirational as he won the Champions League twice with teams that were not the favourites. He even forced Pep into leaving Barcelona. Winning Real the first titles since Pep's appointment in 2008, while playing a "perfect" counter attack with Real and braking La Liga record points.
Jose Mourinho’s failure at Man U and Tottenham showed that the impact of football managers nowadays is largely dependent of those who run the club. In case of Klopp, it is the club’s full support that wins Liverpool trophies. Even when the ranking of the team did not look good, when he wanted one of the most expensive CB in history, Klopp and the club are on the same boat. In case of Pep, the support and authority that the club grant him have been truly phenomenal. The amount of cash poured into those transfers has been insane.
For Mourinho though, he seems to have lost that capacity of gaining the support. In Chelsea, the club was unaware of the aging defense line and bought in some trash defenders in his third season there. That was a mistake, but not an irreversible one. Nevertheless, he clicked the self destruction button. In Manchester United, no one in the club cares about playing good quality football, and there is no professionalism in the club. All the transfers were over priced and were presented to fans like a show. The mediocre players think themselves as CR7 or Messi. Although his team only got the second place in his second season, gaining 81points in the league has been a record for Man U in almost 10 years by now. So I actually think his achievements at Man U are pretty respectable, cause Man U after Sir Ferguson is a black hole, in which no one can possibly pull out great success. In Hotspurs, he just simply overestimated Levy’s ambition. Spurs is not ready to be a true big team yet. He was not heading toward the same goal that Levy wanted(titles vs top4 spot)
Still better than others post fergie managers and the one with better squad doesn't win trophy only 4th in the league to celebrate. Tottenham he got into final before being sacked, seriously its whatever owner is more dumb than FAM.
Alfie: Presents at least 4 arguments about Mourinho's decline.
The IrishGuy: "Mourinho is the best, because the others are hipsters"
Still I watch both of them every week for some reason.
I am CONVINCED the IrishGuy's Jose takes are mostly sattire. I actually think there's a lot of sattire in his takes.
I've watched 2 or 3 videos of the Irish guy, found him to be irritating and annoying, and not very thoughtful, never watched again. If i want uninformed rants, i can listen to random strangers in the next sports bar or pub. Even youtube stopped recommending his videos to me, after a while. If it weren't for comments here every once in a while, i would have forgotten HITC Sports even exists.
@@Jonathanizer completely agree with that, that channel is just a waste of time, pure nonsense, the trash tv or football youtube if you will.
@@LegendNinja41 it’s more of a comedy channel over informed facts and content him and Alfie are complete opposites in what they do for HITC Alfie is the factual informative one while the Irish guys is the nut job ranter it’s a pretty clever way HITC get views both at the opposite end of the scale so depending on what you want you get
@@timsmith1323 when you look at it that way, definitely, wish it was funny.
but ok, there's no rule that says talking about football has to be serious, people are allowed to just pump out content, do clickbait, over the top takes to get reactions etc.
You know the Irish Guy will come later today or tomorrow with a response. "How dare James insult the man I have defended numerous times because I have a brain made of a Sheppards Pie" 🤣🤣🤣
Alfie*
Just no
I find it so funny that Irish Guy kept crowing about how Jose was going to win Serie A with Roma and that Inter had zero chance of defending their title and we’re almost halfway through the season and Roma is WAAAY behind the current top four and Inter is top of the league 🙃
Im here after roma won our first trophy since 2006 and are tied for 2nd in serie a. Im not the biggest mourinho fan but he is definitely trying to get us a step up. Daje roma
Jose will never be finished
Hey Alfie, can you do a video on Paul Mitchell, from a player languishing in league one and two of England. To becoming the transfer mastermind behind Southamptons rise back to the premier league, to his short Tottenham stint, links to Manchester United as head of transfers, head of recruitment & development of RB Leipzig to nearly becoming the Technical Director of Red Bull Football, and to now to the present, of him becoming the sporting director of Monaco.
Modern day football destroyed Jose there aren’t any Jose type players being breed at youth level anymore,defenders are now converted CDM,s and Left backs are converted wingers etc
Nonsense.
@@NunesSan he's right
@@mancunioner The whole argument is nonsense, first what is a Jose type player? Defenders being converted CDM,s and Left backs being converted wingers doesn't have any bearing on the case. Nothing to do with the vague idea of a "modern football", as if Jose wasn't able to use a computer or accept that are new tools available to judge player skills and improve their performance.
@@NunesSan so the best RB in the world according to a lot of people is Trent. He’s actually a CM, so his defensive abilities are mediocre at best. But everyone sees what he can do with the ball and thinks that’s what a RB needs to be. So basically you’re ending up with defensive players who can’t defend and goalkeepers who can’t do the job well enough. This is a manager who relied upon players who knew how to defend, hence the clean sheet and goals conceded record. So when the players that can perform that for you no longer exist then you look worse as a manager. Imagine Pep Guardiola is told he has to keep up the same level of football but he can only choose players that play in League 1. He wouldn’t be able to do it because those players wouldn’t have the technical quality needed to perform his tactics, and the issue now is players don’t have the tactical abilities required by Mourinho to fit into his tactical framework which is why he’s struggling more
@@mancunioner You are making too many assumptions about Mourinho. There's not a type of player or a size fit's all in a manager's tactics, that would make any team impossible to manage, because Mourinho looks for strong mentally and defensive players, doesn't mean these players don't exist or can't be worked with to achieve these qualities. I can't find any reason why Mourinho wouldn't have Trent Arnold in is team. A style of playing doesn't become obsolete or deprecated just because, a style of playing keeps improving and it's adjusted to the opponent side, that's this basic understanding that made Morinho win with a defensive Inter side against an all powerful and all attacking Pep Guardiola's Barcelona, and then lead him to another Champions League title.
Irish guy is screaming after seeing this video title
Would love to see him go into international management now. He's had highs and lows at club management. Maybe that quest is done. Definitely hall of fame great status.
Now, do great things with a talented Portugal squad. Unfortunately a squad that might not even make it to next year's World Cup.
Nah Mourinho is a club manager he needs the rivalries
Jose still have not failed a single club. You could argue Tottenham but the truth is he took them to a final that he didnt even get to play. Some say he failed a man united but he won 3 trophies with an awful squad, way worse than the one ole built up over the coming years. And he didn't achieve shit yet some say he turned man united around when he didn't win a single trophy and got beat by Jose's tottenham side 6-1 at his own ground.
Mourinho is a victim of his own success. If he doesn't win a treble people will say he's a failure smh
🙄 He's a victim of his own poor attitude and lack of social skills. It works great when you're winning and with players that don't mind, but if you have players who will challenge you and you aren't winning it's another thing entirely. What was once charming and tolerable becomes poisonous and stifling.
nice try of changing the reality^^ he failed every club besides inter and porto - at every other club he had so much money that you have to win the cl or you failed !
@@denigster bruuh are you for real? winning the champions league with that united squad with phil jones and smalling in defence? or winning it with spurs with players like ben davies and harry winks? thats the dumbest shit ive ever heard.
@@ivarpihlblad5142 did he won the premier league with utd? his utd team was very lucky that they finished 2nd with 81 points, the amount of money they spent on transfers they should've been more closer to city, but they weren't, and at spurs everything kinda was against him from start, but why did he joined spurs still bewildered me, it was like, even if i do bad, nobody is going to criticize me, nothing to lose
He reached the League Cup final by beating the likes of Stoke and Brentford,who were both 2nd division sides at the time. He did fuck all at Spurs. The football was absolutely terrible,he failed.
Despite what Mourinho did at Spurs, he was still a whisker away from winning us a league cup, even if the football (and results) were atrocious at times. Considering his newfound success at Roma, I'd say that the closest parallel to Mourinho at the moment would be George Graham, who was also coincidently prevented from taking in charge of Spurs against Wenger's Arsenal in the 2001 FA Cup semi-final, Levy giving that job to Hoddle (although Hoddle did reach a League Cup final the season after, unfortunately that was one year too late...).
I'm portuguese and I want him to coach the Portugal national team after he leaves Roma.
Even if he's not at he's peak, Mourinho is still miles and miles better than that donut who's there right now.
Fun fact:he wrote the rise and fall of Jose Mourinho and he changed it
Day 9: Do a documentary on Guy Roux, a man who spent 44 years in total at AJ Auxerre as their manager (glad you’re having a dig at the Irish Guy with this, strange guy that man is)
Jose NEEDS a board who are ready to trust him and give him exactly what he wants. Someone like a Chelsea board or a City board.
Or, you know, maybe some social skills and accountability would help too.
@@kyletucker3811 shut up dude. How have United and spurs done post- Jose? Spinning pr for you dolts whilst winning f all. Social skills and accountability, cornball
Does he not have that at Roma?
@@dohnjoe4516 How has Real Madrid done since, if were looking at clubs after he left? Ah right, they won the UCL multiple times, and with worse squads than what they had under Mou. Maybe the "how have clubs done after he left"-argument isn't the right one here.
@@Jonathanizer and he got there 2 minutes ago? Apologies if he can't win when there haven't been finals yet 😴
HITC Sport is at your door now
"And this, children, is how the HITC Civil War began."
The Irish Guy: No! NO! HE IS NOT FINISHED!! JUST NOOOO!!!
Prince Andrew line finished me 🤣🤣🤣 just very casually rolled that in 🤣🤣
I had to rewind it to hear the whole thing
It boils down to two things only- not having an iconic club captain in the dressing room that sides with him. He had it at Porto and inter and that's where he won the most. The other thing which also links to the 1st bit,specially his time at porto- having a chairman/owner who backed him against every player. That was the big problem at real Madrid and man united.
Yeah and with Chelsea he had terry
@@coolgamingyoutubechannle not really in the sense, terry was an up and coming player in 2004 but Terry did play with desailly Deschamps, vialli etc old school players who gave terry the leadership examples he carried on.
@@TheEnd-gt5sp oh my bad
@@coolgamingyoutubechannle no sweat, doesn't take away the fact that he found a leader in terry and lampard though
@@TheEnd-gt5sp and he learned how to betray teammates.
God I miss him in the premier league never a dull moment with him.
Mou had one of the worst squad at Man Utd and still won a European title with it. He took the same Tottenhman squad that Pochettino saw as having reached its limit to an actual final. Conte himself wants to get rid of half of those players. Roma AS is a clearly untalented mid table squad.t Their best player is Tammy Abraham and Pallegrini, its a squad ready for a rebuilt and has been in need of one for a long time now. Mou is a top class coach his only mistake recently is going to clubs that are in need of a rebuilt and not having the patience to stick it through. If he rebuilds Roma and is a bit more patient, he would have done the impossible again.
They might win the Conference League.
Come on, Mourinho, let's go! Forza, Roma!
He had his peak more than 10 years ago
Everything has an end
You say the video isn’t meant as an attack but I can think of one person who will absolutely take it that way.
To me, Jose is still one of the best.
Nice motivational video for Roma overnight 👏
This feels like a diss track to Irish guy 😂
Its fine to critic his decline but you should mention that he got them to a cup final when talking about his time at Tottenham
The press and the fans inflated his ego so much that he can't do self-criticism anymore, for me he is and always will be a brilliant manager but he really needs to improve his behavior if he wants to be the 'special one' again.
I loved him at Chelsea. Absolutely magnetic for the Prem. What he did for inter alone will live forever. He came, he saw, he did. Not bad.
Is Carlo Ancelotti finished at the highest level? So called pundits thought when he was at Everton but now maybe he is going to win the treble.
It is crazy how many pundits and journalists predicted failure for Ancelotti this season. Still early days but still...
Ah yes totenham are gonna win the treble
Alfie, you nailed it on the head. Once again your angle on the Jose issue is spot on. Like him or not he always WAS entertaining. Seems totally uninspired by it all. Think he needs to take a year or so off to reset. Then take over the Portuguese national team. The great game is better with him in it. Never been a more fun post game press conference than Jose, only Roy Keane comes close. And yes he was a big reason I fell in love with the game as well. Love him, hate him but you just can't deny his legacy. Well done Alfie !
Jose is the best manager in the world, the greats are held to higher standards, if Messi scored 15 goals a season people would say " what is wrong with Messi ? "
If most players scored 15 goals in a major European league people would say " he's a great player he scored 15 goals "
Jose best win percentage in the last 80 years of any manager , do you think Jose wouldn't win with Madrid , City, Liverpool , PSG ? lol
Jose GOAT Muourinho
Other managers have won more at those clubs
He’s worth 120 million dollars and one of the best managers that ever lived. Living legend Mourinho.
Loved the video. Overall very balanced. You didn’t talk about the number of injuries Roma has. Guardiola and Koop would also struggle with such thin squad. Mourinho is still the very best in my opinion.
Twisting of circumstances. Mou is still great, I wish he was the Coach of PSG. Every other Coach has limitless amount of money to spend and are called genuises, Mourinho isn't backed since Man Utd.
Mourinho is literally the definition of a cheque book manager/needs a WC XI to win, 1st manager to spend 1bn, Inter with elite talents like (Eto'o, Sneijder, Maicon Cesar), carried that Inter team, Milito was the only real shock improvement, as he wasn't recognised as an elite player before or after Mourinho
PSG are the French Man United, commercial FC, Mourinho would be wise to avoid PSG, they're not a football club
Mourinho came to Madrid at one of the lowest points of their history. They had been eliminated from the knockout stage of the champions league about 6 years in a row. Often by teams like Lyon and Roma.
They were incapable of competing against Barcelona.
Mourinho transformed real Madrid. Alot of the success that the subsequent managers enjoyed, was due to the fact that he had laid the groundwork in fixing what was a severely broken team
That is very true; he brought back belief to Madrid that they could compete with and beat the best.
Football has evolved. Is constantly evolving. Mourinho hasn't and will never. His way doesn't work anymore ,simple as that
His way worked, because he was very charismatic, very likeable. His players would go far and beyond for him. Nowadays he comes across as a grumpy old sourpuss, so his motivational skills are probably not what they used to be.
Give him a team like city , psg , Chelsea or even inter Milan to prove he’s not done !!! Roma is different project it takes time if u all think he’s done yes he done . Mou is a true genius and I feel sorry for all d dumbs out der thinking he’s not d same coacn anymore
The Irish Guy somehow still thinks he is one of the best managers in the world for some reason. Mou's time is up now, its clear he wasn't the manager he used to be.
He chooses the wrong clubs, Man U spurs and roma all had glimpses of success stretching over months, they simply couldnt keep them up.
The same desire and form that spurs had for the first half of the season dried up, or was sabotaged by players like bale.
this did not age well
It did
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I will never understand why people love to hate Mourinho...
Never can understand why people worship Mourinho so much, and still call him a WC manager, when he's now managing it the conference league
@@jean-paulwalters8855 you must be one of those that hasnt won shit and now spits on others work. Keep it up. Your club migh win someday. You brits lot think you are above others as usual but reality...
@@PlayRoomHR My teams 1 of the 3 elite clubs in Europe, we've won a lot thanks, Mourinho hasn't won a trophy in 6 years, hasn't won a domestic title in almost 8 years, what has he done in football lately, get beat by Bodo/Gibt, and get knocked out of the Europa League with a Tottenham team, who had Kane, Son, 4× CL winner in Bale, Hojibjerg, and he brought almost a whole 11, in the summer, same new at Roma, and they're nowhere near top 4, surely a WC manager like Mourinho, could hand pick any job he wants, how after Manchester United, has he ended up at Tottenham and Roma, if he's still a WC manager, that teams chase after him, these days, it's almost as if, he's the one desperately chasing for jobs, could have literally tooken the PSG or Bayern Munich job, (when Tuchel, was under pressure, and Kovac got sacked), why?, he's not a coach, that improves individuals, he's a tactical manager, who goes game to game, has had good defensive coaches, to help him set a compact defence, and then rely on individuals to take the opportunities in the final 3rd, it's what his periodic trainings based around, it will be interesting to see once he gets better defenders, what he can offer up
@@jean-paulwalters8855 elite team? You mean someone bought it right? Lol imagine calling that an elite team...
@@PlayRoomHR I'm not talking about Roma or Tottenham, you asked what my team is, I said Man United, they're amongst the Elite with RM, Bayern Munich and Barca, I said if he's still a world class manager, then surely he could kick back, and teams like PSG, Bayern Munich, who (in PSG, were struggling under Tuchel, and Bayern, just sacked Kovac, RM, which just saw Zidane leave), would have gone after him, without even thinking twice, as he's still a "world class" manager, instead it seemed to me like he was desperate, and picked Tottenham, without doing his homework, and forgetting his traditional managerial style, even that team under Potch, needed a proper coach, like Potch, who could improve the individuals player by player, and Levy, who doesn't spend money, he was even close to joining Arsenal, who are a carbon copy of Tottenham and United, he didn't need to go to Tottenham if he was such a WC manager, as RM, PSG and Bayern were available, from what I'm aware, Bayern, just didn't want Mourinho, as his antics, and playing style counter-reacted against what Bayern are traditionally as a club, RM didn't want him, due to big characters, in his 1st RM stint refusing to work with him again, and players like Neymar and Mbappe, didn't want to work under Mourinho, and PSG, are generally controlled by their players, so after Poch left, he desperately snapped the Tottenham job, without doing his homework
Brilliant Alfie my man...music analogy at the end was class
Mourinho created so many antibodies, that now, because he is in a downturn all the jackals want to feast on his body. Even in his "darker period" he did an amazing job at Manchester United achieving more than Ole Solskjær ever could, and with worse players and less resources. On Tottenham he had a great start, but it was evident that the peak performance of those players had been reached 2 seasons ago with the Champions League final, hope he has enough time to work in Roma to produce the results he deserves, I truly believe he still is one of the best managers of European football, and will prove it once again.
Your comparing Jose to Ole, that just shows the decline in Mourinho, that your comparing Mourinho, to a Norwegian coach, and even Ole finished 2nd with United, literally the same place, as well as 3rd the year before, Rashford, Martial, Lindelof, Lingard, Mata, Pogba, Matic, Mctominay, Shaw, Fred, De Gea, same players Mourinho had, Lukaku > Cavani (and younger), Sanchez (even in decline), still way better than Dan James, only really AWB > Young/Valencia (just), so literally the same team bar AWB, Maguire, Greenwood, they both achieved the same goal in the league (finishing 2nd), Ole also finished 3rd, with (along with LVG 15/16 squad) the worst United squad in history, in Ole's 1st year, Mourinho won a Europa League against a inexperienced Ajax side (manager)
@@jean-paulwalters8855 I can only compare with managers that where on the same clubs that Mourinho managed.
@@NunesSan so Zidane vs Mourinho, Poch Vs Mourinho for Tottenham, Tuchel vs Mourinho
@@jean-paulwalters8855 With the same players on good form, on a head to head match Mourinho is a better manager, than the 3 of them. Mourinho by himself has almost more trophies than the other 3 managers combined.
This video really understates his time in Madrid imo, they were unlucky not to achieve more and a league title over what many at the time already thought was the greatest team ever is an amazing achievement. Real Madrid was the peak of Mourinho's career in terms of on pitch ability and also of the infamous siege mentality. El Clasico grew so vitriolic during his stay in Spain that the captains of both sides felt it was detrimental to the brilliant Spanish national team who were at their peak during that time as well, and the likes of Casillas attempting to make amends between the two camps is also reportedly the beginning of his fallout with Mourinho. Inter's players cried when Mourinho left the club, they loved him, but despite how good Madrid were he left their dressing room a war zone and nearly forced out their legendary captain. He has never been the same since his sacking from Madrid, he took that bitterness with him to Chelsea once things started going downhill, lost most of his charm in the media and as you said has grown toxic towards his own players. The game has passed him by tactically and in terms of man-management which probably feeds into this behavior. Chelsea's home defeat against Simeone's Atlético in the 2014 CL semis really marks the end of his time as an elite manager in my eyes, he was out-done by a team in the same style and mentality that he used to be an expert in ten years before. He never again competed at the top level in Europe, even his league winning Chelsea team crashed out in the CL RO16 and the furthest he ever got with United was the RO16 against Sevilla.
Brilliant video Alfie. I sometimes fall into the nostalgic Mourinho defending trap. It is thought provoking to hear that I might have just fell victim to his siege mentality tactics. Oddly enough, it seems like Mourinho's tactics were a self fulfilling prophecy, at least in his mind. Now, it is that same siege mentality that is hindering his performances. wonder video
Alfie is a Pep Guardiola fan.
This should be at a disclaimer at the start of the video
You should pay close attention to his supposed failures at Spurs:
Kane won Golden boot and had most assists.
Spurs were top of the league for a great part of the season.
CBs got injured and he got Joe Rodon from Championship as replacement.
Spurs were the second team to score 100 goals behind Bayern.
Won trophies at Man United.
Roma just thrashed Lazio, made them go first half with zero shots on target.
Beat Atalanta etc.
I will repeat again, Alfie is a Pep fan. His opinion on Mourinho is skewed
He should go into international management and be the next portugal manager after fernando santos
This has not aged well
As a Nottingham Forest fan I found the Hull City joke offensive🤣especially as we beat you at home yesterday
I used to hate him, because of his arrogance, but now I somehow want him to succeed, I don't really know why.
OG Mourinho was 🔥🔥🔥 Its true the man is not the same but gotta respect the guy.
22:42 we mustn’t forget Alex Ferguson, after three seasons he had reports he was going to be sacked. - fact.
JOSE MOURINHO
UNIÃO DE LEIRIA ⚪⭕🔴 2001➖2002
Mourinho coached União De Leiria 19 games and when in January(during the season) he signed for Porto Leiria were 4th in the table having the second most goals scored and 3rd least conceded.
PORTO 2002➖2004🔵⚪Replaced Machado as a coach in January 2002 when Porto was 5ft in league. In the remaining 15 games Porto scored more than anyone (35) and finished 3rd. In his first full season won Treble: the league with record number of points at the time,Taça de Portugal and UEFA cup. In 3rd season won Portuguese super cup, the league AND The Champions league WITH Porto😮❗6 trophies in 2 seasons
CHELSEA 2004➖2008🔵🔵
In 1st season won the Premier league conceding only 15 goals(the least in Prem history) and losing only once( and it was just 1_0 to ManCity). In Champions league won 5➖4 vs Barcelona but lost to eventual winners Liverpool 1➖0 with a "ghost goal" for some people. 🔵In 2nd season won Community shield and league with 91 points conceding the least. In the CHL group lost once (the only game they conceded) lost to Barcelona 3-2 on aggregate and in fa cup lost to eventual champions Liverpool by 1 goal. 🔵In 3rd season won Fa Cup and league cup, finished 2nd conceding fewest goals in league(24)and losing the least matches, in CHL lost on penalties to Liverpool in Semifinals🔵In the start of 4th season left after disagreements with owner.
At Chelsea won 2 PL's, 2 League cup's, Fa cup and Fa Communityshield= 6 trophies.
INTER 2008➖2010⚫🔵
First season won Supercoppa and Serie A but lost 2-0 on aggregate to ManU in CHL. In second season won TREBLE🏆🏆🏆. Also won against rivals AC Milan 4-0 and beat THAT Fc Barcelona side 3-2 to reach the final. Won 4 trophies in 2 seasons.
REAL MADRID ⚪⚪2010➖2013
First season(2010➖2011) at Real Madrid finished 2nd( with 96 points)only 4 points behind the best team of all time(FcBarcelona) scoring 102 goals(the most), winning CopaDelRey. In Champions league unbeaten(only 2_2 draw vs Milan, the only game they conceded) in Groupstage and lost in semifinals against that Great Barcelona team. Second season(2011➖2012) won the league with 100 points and scoring 121 goals and losing only twice. In copa lost in quarter finals to Barcelona by only1 goal, won all group stage games in CHL but lost to Bayern on penalties in Semi-finals. In 3rd season(2012➖13) won supercopa vs Barcelona, finished second in league scoring 103 goals, lost the CDR final to Atletico and in CHL lost to Dortmund in Semifinals. Was unbeaten at home. Left after 3rd season after winning La liga,CDR and Supercopa=3 trophies
Return to Chelsea🔵🔵 2013➖2016
Lost to Bayern Munchen on penalties in Supercup,lost the International champions cup final to Real Madrid CF finished 3rd in pl 4 points away from title having best defence(27 conceded), beating Arsenal 6-0 in PL, losing to ManCity in Fa Cup 5ft round and same round to Sunderland in League cup. In CHL lost to finalist Atletico Madrid in semifinals🔵In 2nd season won the Premier league and having best defence and losing the least. Won the Fa Cup, was unbeaten in CHL groupstage but losing to PSG in roundof16 after extratime goal🔵In 3rd season lost community shield final to Arsenal by 1 goal but after bad start in Premier League left. Won Premier league and League cup =2 trophies.
Manchester United 🔴⚫2016➖2018
In first year won Europaleague, communityshield and efl cup. Was better team but Lost in fa cup vs Chelsea. Finished 6th having 2nd best defence(29 conceded) but 15 draws. 2nd season lost supercup to Real Madrid finished 2nd having 2nd best defence. Lost Fa cup final to Chelsea and surprisingly lost to Seville in CHL. 3rd season started really badly and he got sacked. In 3 season won 3 trophies.
Tottenham⚪⚪
On 20th November 2019 Mourinho was appointed as the manager. Tottenham were 14th and winless in the past 5 games. Mourinho won his first 3 matches and managed to guide Spurs to 6th place. They lost on penalties to Norwich in the 5th round of FA cup. Mourinho managed to beat his old rival Guardiola (2-0) and Tottenham's local rivals Arsenal (2-1). Had the season started when Mourinho took over (12th Prem matchday) Tottenham would have finished 4th in 2019/20 season.
Mourinho's second season started with a 1-0 loss to Everton but after that Tottenham went on a 10 game unbeaten run (memorably beating Manchester United 6-1). At times it looked as Spurs could have challenged for the title but their form dropped. The whole season was marked with costly individual mistakes which costed many points. During the season fans criticized Mourinho for being too defensive. In the FA cup they lost to Everton 5-4 after dominating the game and playing attacking football. After that game Spurs went on a bad run of form which included them losing 3-0 to Dinamo Zagreb and being KO of the UEL. Mourinho was sacked on 19th April 2021 just days before the EFL Cup Final, which could have been Tottenham's first trophy in 13 years.
Mourinho's time at Tottenham was difficult as he wasn't able to get rid of those costly individual mistakes and some players weren't commited enough. Mourinho himself was often too defensive and that didn't help either. His time at Spurs could have been much better...
AS Roma 🔴💛
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So 25 trophies won in 18 years
Also to those talking about how defensive he plays: NOBODY scored more goals than Porto over his 2 full seasons in charge there, his Inter were top scorers in SerieA in each of his 2 years in Italy, at La Liga his Madrid in 3 seasons scored more than Barcelona: 326 vs 324,scoring 100+ in EVERY of his 3 seasons there, in his first season at Chelsea they scored 14 more than ManU that season.
He's been in top3 every season as a manager (except in 2016/17 6th).
And also he deserves a little bit credit for those Champions leagues Real Madrid won later. They got important Experience in those 3 semifinals and only season after he left they won it. Before Mourinho had arrived they had reached quarters once in 7 years.
Irish Guy is gonna *hate* this
A good coach is the one who wins the champions league with a team like Porto. A good coach is the one who wins a champions league with a team like Inter milan when they were then an unknown quantity and the likes of Barca. Real madrid. Man united and Bayern were the real deal. A good coach is the one who wins the spanish league during during his second year when barcelona was unrivaled then. A good coach is the one who wins the league with chelsea with an average squad for the first time in three decades and comes back to win it two more times. A good coach is the one who takes over manchester united after sir alex and wins three trophies and finishes 2nd on the epl log with a squad which was not even half of what is there the ronaldos. the brunos. the varanes the cavannis the sanchos. the greenwoods name them. Since his departure man u has never won a trophy and they want to call this man a failure my foot. A good manager is the one who takes a lousy team like spurs to a cup final in 12 months yet this team has never won a trophy in 12 years and he is fired. They might not want to admit it but inwardly many man u fans know that jose was the man to take man u to the next level. They know a mistake was made by sacrificing this man and keeping the virus pogba. Pogba is there but where a the trophies. Ýes trust jose he is a great coach and is still one of the greatest coaches around. Just give him the resources at Roma and you will see a porto repeat. Watch the space
He became successful with those players who wanted to give 100% in every game, players who could fight like beasts in the game. Nowadays players like pogba are more interested in social media than football and it is really difficult to find that old robust mentality in today's generation.
I wonder how years ago pep won the champions league
2023 with Man City. Thank you 😉
Do a video about why footballers are having heartattacks in absurd number. Sadly football lost Kun Aguero because of it.
I think that he is past his prime, but would still like to see him come back to my FC Porto.
I honestly can’t believe the downfall sometimes…
Champions league with Porto, Treble with Inter, least goals conceded in an EPL season with Chelsea (04/05), most goals scored in a La Liga season with Real (11/12).
But now…
Modern day players simply can't handle him. He used to take on for the team because they'd do the same for him. Nowadays they have disasterclasses every week.
lol he’s just washed
To me it seemed like Mourinho doesn´t enjoy managing, he´s far more happy as a pundit.
One thing about Guardiola: has he ever managed a club without basically endless amount of money? I recall Barcelona, Bayern and ManCity, none of which were poor at any time he was present there. If so, I´d really like to see how he´d do in, say, Hull City or Crewe Alexandra, or maybe in the Finnish Premier League?
The timing is so hitc , he just battered atlanta
PS : 5:29 the shade at the Irish guy is real
Hey Alfie,Mourinho won 3 trophies at Man utd,cmon are you not going to count the community shield?!
no?
Video idea: All the Premier League-managers 7 years/seasons ago; where are they now?
mou isnt doing that bad in roma. the team are good to watch. they miss loads of chances, and they tend to get baten by better teams
The Irish guy: And I took that personally.
I just think there's a real problem with the way our society views people who say exactly what they mean. Jose says what he means and means what he says, so we see him as a villain with a siege mentality. No, he just doesn't butter things up - which is exactly how the rest of us should be. If Klopp was thinking what you think he was, about Karius, but said something completely different, that doesn't make him a better person than Mourinho, it makes him a dishonest man who'd rather save face than be truthful. That's the clearest definition of cowardice in my eyes. Mourinho was never 'the special one' but he is a man who refuses to play by the unwritten rules of society, because those rules were ridiculous in the first place.
HITCSevens, please do a video about the best XI in the Premier League since 1992 in each position e.g Schmeichel, Cech in goal, Neville, Azpilicueta, Walker at right back. It would be brilliant.
Anyone who knows anything about Romas situation and where that club was last year to where they are this year knows that Mourinho is practically blameless loool, this videos seems a bit weird to make at this point in time
Irish Guy: I have never Been betrayed Like this