California’s cannabis exodus: The Green Room Season 2 Episode 1
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- Опубліковано 24 лип 2024
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Beset by exorbitant start-up costs and restrictive regulations, California cannabis entrepreneurs are finding a freer market in the Sooner State.
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I hate seeing growers talk well about a metrc system, that's like shouting "I want a monopoly on marijuana!" It's a plant, let anybody who wants to grow it, grow it. Half ass prohibition is just half ass.
Mc weed!
Metrc is bullshit...
Recreational growers growing their 12 per card is where it's really at in Oklahoma
@@tophernuttle420 How does that work? You really need a card to recreationally grow for personal use? How much is the card and is it just age or what other requirements do they ask for?
Get a billion seeds and cross the Country. Be Johnny Marijuanaseed. It should be growing along every road.
@@guttermouths nah, just put them in bird seed. 🐦
No chance these businesses are 75% Oklahoma owned. And Leave that cali bull shit in cali.
you still can get good bud for reasonable prices in Cali. Not as good as when it was medical only but still decent. Selection is not as good but still plenty of choices. Not a fan of the labeling requirements it just makes it cost more IMHO. Branded bud seems weird but whatever.
The weed in Oklahoma and the rest of the south is a joke.
There's weed in Florida you will never taste that's more fire than anything out west.
Had weed from Colorado, California, Washington, Oklahoma, Jamaica, Mexico. And your top shelf isn’t any better than anyone else’s. Most of these people are the same people who were once growing in cali.
@@budzilla4053 Agreed, Cali has been exporting their talented growers now for a couple decades.
I heard one statement that Oklahoma did not have a drug problem before cannabis was legalized. This is BS. I am from Oklahoma. One of my brothers high school classmates died of a drug overdose in the 1990s. Meth has been a problem for a long time there.
tulsa is the worst people shoot up in the open here
As a former meth junkie from Ponca City I can attest to this personally...
I’m from Texas and my father is from Oklahoma and there a border state and I know for a fact Meth riddles Oklahoma.
@@oscarvargas1491 the worst in tulsa tho
Hoosier here, meth is super bad here saying we’re the number 1 producer 😓
Other states can develop their own specialties, but I used to live in Humboldt County, California. Many growers in that area won't sell to the State. I have never seen an ecosystem like Humboldt. About 200 days a year sunshine but only in the afternoon. Almost every morning there is a thick fog over the giant Redwoods. That burns off by noon and then the sun comes out. Cannabis really thrives in this natural environment. That's not to knock indoor grows. But there is a good vibration from the fog that sticks to "Humboldt Homegrown." Big, huge bushy green plants with gigantic buds. The whole "Left Coast" is good for growing. We want to call it "Cascadia" and become our own country. From about Monterrey up to Crescent City and then thru Oregon and Washington and the coast of British Columbia (beautiful) up to Alaska. Many people like me are former hippies from the '60s who value peace and love. The growers in this zone have cloned and developed their strains for the last 60 years or so with much love.
yeah costline fog is why a lot of wineries are here and came here as well. Livermore and connected areas just kicked off last 10 years or so the same. The weather for certain things. Inland valley farms heat, pulls in coastline fog, which plants love as a way of getting 'rest' and water/moisture. Hill and valley areas like Humbolt even get fog pockets that persist a little longer in the lower elevations each day. Its a nice thing.
@@ernie548 Wow, didn't know that. So the ecosystem is kind of unique.
They won't sell to Oklahoma? Pffft.. That's lost money. I knew the high grade around here didn't seem as high grade as it once did when it was illegal and we were getting yalls shit. Damn I just typed the word yall, can you tell I'm an Okie. Californians gave us that nickname. Why won't they? What is it? that we are the most conservative state ever? lol
@@christopherboxford9556 Due to federal law, you can't cross state line with your product so any legit operation is forced to sell within the state they grow in. I believe John was saying that humbolt area sellers choose not to sell to any state including thier own, meaning that there are many "black market" operations going on there. As a resident of a non-legal state, thank you to alll the humbolt/oregon growers that are making it happen for me.
I knew I wasn't crazy and the weed actually was better here when it was illegal. As far as Cascadia goes you will likely have to outsource your defense probably to the rest of the remaining states cause without it you would have to worry about invasions from whoever felt it worth the effort to come and steal your riches. I think it's best we all stay united and learn to live with one another despite our pretty benign differences.
In my country we can't have a plant or you go to jail. I dont want to be legal to have a 1 Million $ farm or anything like that, i just want a legislation that will let people have 2-4 plants at home, without being considered a criminal, because the biggest criminals are politics. Legalize it
It must be decriminalised. Legalisation means nothing.can be legal to grow but it wont be legal to use ,smoke or share and what ever.
LOL "Oh we don't want to over regulate" as they show the tracking system from seed to harvest.
seriously talk about a bunch of inept buffoons.. laughable
California costs are much greater than you described. A grower renting my land was being charged a $10,000 'fee' just to use my well water. He went bust, as have every other grower that was around an area with great growing attributes.
Yo fui u alcohólico es un escape lo mismo que nos da a todos pero Cristo sana y libera de la muerte eterna
Yeah, California licenses cost MUCH more than that in reality.
Surprised with the quality of this piece.! No joke. It was Objective, honest, with no agenda. Good work by the guy that works for the la times
Excellent informative article!!!!
the agenda is to make conservatives not sound like nazi assholes for taxing marijuana in other states and blame liberals for what nazi conservatives do
it had a very clear anti regulation agenda
you just think that's a good thing because you're clearly not informed
They forgot to mention the tolerated Chinese nationalists used to flood local markets with products produced by Chinese slaves via HR1603. This was done to drive the mom and pops out of business because they can not afford to keep up with Chinese nationalists who pay cash for properties and use gray area slave labor. The nationalist operations have a much lower bottom dollar, which sends local mom and pops under.If you are organized crime and know what you are doing, it takes 2 years to buy property, build greenhouses, bring in "immigrants" and get enough product out to pay for the millions invested.
The government had plenty of time to investigate and stop this, but they did not! Why!? This was a planned destruction of the cannabis industry, so we can end up like big tobacco.
The tolerated organized crime convinces regulators we need more regulation, when all we needed was the government to remove the bad actors, which are easy to identify due to their large scale operations!
Middle America can not afford the excess regulation like corporations can, and now regulators are convinced this is what needs to happen.
Government negligence is how we got here and now middle America will suffer even more while mom and pops get scapegoated for flooding the market. If you knew what it cost to grow good weed, you would know it's impossible for low funded people to flood markets with decent cannabis This article mimics "astroturfing" too! Why? The plant at 14:18 is infested with thrips, but they proudly display an infected plant, due to little knowledge of the industry. Any industry leader would be able to identify this, so who is really making these videos and why?! This is why I suggest astroturfing, no cannabis farm owner would allow for a thrip infected plant to be filmed. It is bad for business
I’m in California and grow my own .
You can buy literally everything online
And with UA-cam , online forums you can produce equal quality of dispensary .
Dude I'm in Dublin can u get me gringo sent?
This is the most interesting thing I've ever heard about Oklahoma!
We just outright outlawed abortions a few weeks ago...
100k minimum fine for getting or performing one...
I'm most proud of this one...
@@tophernuttle420 Now maybe OK will be spared during judgement day.
@@tophernuttle420 Nuttle by name,Nuttle by nature
@@tophernuttle420 Yeah seems like a pretty great state
Yes!!! It's really nice to read about something other than tornadoes!!!!
I hate to be a buzz kill but I was growing 100% indoor organic/No till cannabis with testing results from 23% - 28% & went outta business after two years. I even owned my property & my building as well. No loan payments or any type of rent that I had hanging over my head every month. I was in the best position a business owner could possibly be in. I went from selling out in a week at $2200-$2400 per pound the first two years & after two years it came down to me driving across the state for three months & never received an offer above $1100 per pound. And that was with two strains that tested at 24% & 27%. In between 3% & 4% terp levels on both strains. If you’re an indoor grower, growing the cheapest you possibly you can grow, you know that is still a complete loss without any profit. The market is so flooded here, it’s unreal. Businesses are droppin like flys or they are locked into a complete nightmare without any profit margin. It’ll be 10 years before the market is even close to being able to legally make a small profit & that’s a huge maybe. Oklahoma born and raised and the state has allowed the industry to become complete shit. The only benefit is that the state is constantly collecting new license fees. The patients think they are getting a great deal but the truth is they are now buying low grade quality cannabis at a low price & it’s only going to get worse. Every American knows that you cannot produce high quality product for dirt cheap prices. It just isn’t realistic lol. And that’s in every industry, not just the cannabis industry.
Gotta teach ppl, about the good stuff
The problem is these dispensaries know that they are gonna gonna sell their product regardless. So you’re almost better off just growin abunch of trash & sellin it for cheap smh lol.
@@talonpolach just like other aspects, consumers just want the best price or most hype name.
They
Dont think independently
@@massttrshrdrharmonicminor2002 💯 That’s for sure. The state of Oklahoma has completely ruined the industry & they wanna call it the top state. That’s bullshit. It’s the top state that’s collecting payments for licenses repeatedly lol. That’s the only benefit.
FACTS- saturated market
Metric destroyed the weed industry, I moved to oklahoma from Colorado in 2020. I am a combat veteran that uses cannibas to treat war injuries. In oklahoma I am getting an oz of top shelf quality for 80 bucks. Colorado it was 300 an oz and was half as good as okie weed.
I remember back in the early 2000s when I first started smoking, having a medical card was like the dream of every cannabis user I knew, now almost 22 years later in most Green states you don't even need one anymore cannabis is legal for adult recreational use at least in Maine and Massachusetts in the area I live, you just have to be 21 or older and have a valid ID or driver's license, doesn't matter if it's out of state. you can legally buy up to 2.5 ounces of flower or up to 7 grams of Concentrates, No med card needed
A beautiful thing. Shrooms and LSD next! Hopefully. Everything in moderation. 🎶 Gimmie cocaine, gimmie cocaine...🎶
Matt it's as cheep as 8 dollar eights 3.5 grams of flower 17% outdoor weed.20 years ago same bag 25-30
Here in California you Rec limits you to one ounce of flower a day. Kinda limits you when you need more.
Yea Cali stores
Blow.
But real Cali outdoor when you know the right people.
Right now.
Is $200/pound in bulk.
i heard in Michigan, that has recreation, the price is double than that for medical patients. id rather pay for my card and get regular priced weed
Ohio went medical a few yrs ago ,the street weed $ dropped dramatically, but the quality went through the roof.
I gave up on seeking quality but now just grab some 85% concentrate made with a rosin press and all is good.
Actually, Oklahoma is regulating capitalism by preventing people from out of state from getting licenses. In a free market, big outside dollars could take over the Oklahoma market, but Oklahoma has prevented that to protect themselves from predatory capitalists.
Except that doesn't happen in practice. Ghost owners
Happy 4/20 Adam and LA Times team! Can't wait to watch the 2nd season 💚
Support small farms that grow organic fragrant flowers with love... california has the sweat equity and has the farmers whom have lived this for decades longer than these new growers. Buy from someone who has done this for more than a year or 2 If you can
You have no idea what your talking about. Oklahomans have been doing this for years. Support local oklahoma farmers. You come with your investors and back door deals to fund your operations while you drive the legal prices down to 250 a lb.
@@eshmikity that's happening everywhere. In Oklahoma they have organized crime as well . Increasing the taxes will drive out the smaller farmers. Small farms only have so much good stuff to sell. When it's sold its gone. Bigger farms always win when the taxes are low like they are currently in Oklahoma. And the atmosphere isn't the same as here in the Bay Area in Northern California. Alot of what you grow in Oklahoma originated in california.
@@kennypowerz1267 not at all. The majority of product in Oklahoma is Oklahoma grown. There are enormous grows pumping out thousands of pounds a week. It’s canopy size licensing that only seems to limit the larger grows. The large grows just use the revenue generated from illegal sales to keep their legal operations going while the small farms that try to follow the rules can’t continue to operate at a loss. It’s not higher taxes that help smaller farms, that’s politician rhetoric they use to live their own pockets.
great shows keep up the good work
Fantastic segment thank you!
Love from the 405 north of 40 east of 35 .. Okc finally on the map for something worth while .
No cap💪
In California the people had more freedoms to cannabis while it was medical, soon as it went recreational in Cali the counties & cities started putting their own laws as they see fit without the sayso of the citizens. Lots of city bans & county bans on outdoor cultivation, not everyone can afford indoor equipment or have the space.... Jus an example
Dwi now to...
Shit born and raised in NorCal and anyone can grow 6 plants 6 clones 6 in veg and 6 flowering without buying a big grow permits. I see Most home growers that have the space grow as many as their property is able to produce some have way over 6 plants. Oklahoma May have a lot lenient laws but you just can’t replicate that NorCal outdoor 🔥 like we do in Cali it’s always imitated but never duplicated. I wish they showed more videos of actual strains.
They should loosen regulation. In my state you will regularly pay 150$ for a half of random strain popcorn buds that are dry and harsh. Thats with it on sale. Its much better to just support a grower.
Anyone who was paying attention could have seen this happening. California's legalization law was a just a give away to the rich and connected oligarchs who were just waiting in the background to pounce and put all of the small heritage growers out of business. That's why black market weed is still a better deal in california than buying from the dispensaries and pot shops.
They did the same thing in illinois. We need to save our country from these criminals.
Well, to be fair, why should weed be any different from any other market? Doesn’t capital always decimate the small guy/gal? The same thing will ultimately happen in Oklahoma too.
@@flutieflambert Because the people intelligent enough to understand the medicinal side of marijuana will always be prevented from entering the market by people with higher capital who can't comprehend how lower yield can be a good thing.
Same old story, new boss just like old boss.
the market has completly crashed so its only a matter of time till the black market is gone.
Welcome to the commodities market. The lingering question, where's the bottom? Also, with fed. recognition, what impact will this have on small growers when it goes corporate?
The metric system is difficult to setup but initially gives a specific plant a bar code since most all will be clones
Yea it makes the employees look bad when the employer takes tags off plants that die and put them on new clones. Because when they end up in the flower house- they look like they vegged for longer than they did, in the metric system.
And if you think people aren’t tempted to manipulate the metric system.
A bunch of weed smokin yuppies……
Hahahahahahahahahahahahhaaaaa
Metrc was a pain in the ass to get going at my farm but I pray it helps us out in the long run.
I live in Cathedral City, Calif, where he high city taxes for opening a dispensary and on each sale of product are typical. Over saturation of dispensaries has begun to result in business failure. I went to the closing of a local dispensary a few months ago and the owner sadly told me that she was losing her investment of $3 million dollars.
I'd appreciate your comment!
the county in CA where i used to live until 2020, it cost $70,000 for the cultivation facility license alone for a house under 3,500 sq ft. ..add the $4,000 for individual cultivators license.
And, No, you cannot start an indoor grow facility "for a couple $100 dollars" LoFL
Do t forget the bribes involved lmao
NY and NJ not being mentioned is funny. East coast is going to change the market extremely. I love how Oklahoma is taking the correct approach to legalization, unlike the greedy north east.
Electricity cost is the biggest cost for indoor growers and in Oklahoma electricity costs less than half of what it cost in California, ($0.11/kWh vs. $0.25/kWh). Green New Deal doubles the cost for electricity, I'm sure that PSE&G and ConEd have expensive power, Maybe Western NY has cheaper power from Niagara Mohawk, Indo in Cali makes no sense. But you can grow pretty bomb bud outdoors in Cali or in greenhouses.
@@melaniecotterell8263 You think electricity is expensive in Oklahoma.... LOL I live in New York. National Grid is one of the biggest legalized criminal organizations in America LOL
NJ is a joke. It really is.
@@dmo848 100% a money making scam for the government is all it is.
Well they just started cracking down on new York growers and vendors so idk big dawg
Great video Great talk Great tips Great show ✌
They forgot to mention the tolerated Chinese nationalists used to flood local markets with products produced by Chinese slaves via HR1603. This was done to drive the mom and pops out of business because they can not afford to keep up with Chinese nationalists who pay cash for properties and use gray area slave labor. The nationalist operations have a much lower bottom dollar, which sends local mom and pops under.If you are organized crime and know what you are doing, it takes 2 years to buy property, build greenhouses, bring in "immigrants" and get enough product out to pay for the millions invested.
The government had plenty of time to investigate and stop this, but they did not! Why!? This was a planned destruction of the cannabis industry, so we can end up like big tobacco.
The tolerated organized crime convinces regulators we need more regulation, when all we needed was the government to remove the bad actors, which are easy to identify due to their large scale operations!
Middle America can not afford the excess regulation like corporations can, and now regulators are convinced this is what needs to happen.
Government negligence is how we got here and now middle America will suffer even more while mom and pops get scapegoated for flooding the market. If you knew what it cost to grow good weed, you would know it's impossible for low funded people to flood markets with decent cannabis This article mimics "astroturfing" too! Why? The plant at 14:18 is infested with thrips, but they proudly display an infected plant, due to little knowledge of the industry. Any industry leader would be able to identify this, so who is really making these videos and why?! This is why I suggest astroturfing, no cannabis farm owner would allow for a thrip infected plant to be filmed. It is bad for business
I like how I seen alot of the internets in general collectively yet also individually, bashing CA. Its awesome!
"If you can survive in California, you will thrive anywhere." -Ajax
California sucks
As an Oklahoman we do have an over saturation of dispensaries. Remember in like 2016 when there were ecig shops on every corner sometimes 2 on a corner? It's like that here. I drive past probably 10 on my 3 mile drive to work. There are some laws like can't be within so many feet of a school, park, church(?), Etc... But that's basically it. If 4 years ago it was an abandoned building on a main road today it's probably a dispensary or will be one soon. I don't smoke but driving around you constantly catch skunk smell from farms in the city. I'm honestly worried about getting pulled over near one of these and searched because it smells like weed. But other than that I am happy it's medical here and it's wild so see.
You must be in Muskogee!
Marijuana making 2nd amendment advocates and hippies sound alike is trippy
Of what value is tracking a plant from seed to sale when you are not collecting information from the after sale? It's something necessary only to satisfy regulators in states that rule with an iron hand.
This is amazing! I believe it, OK is one of our best regions.
And to think the politicians tried to shut it down before it got started. Ohh wait they still do.
there is so much weed now. a OZ cost me 40 bucks, and no not brick weed. im talking fire
in which state?
Doubt it. It's probably not brick weed but I doubt its fire. What's it testing at? 40 bucks an ounce is ludicrously cheap for an ounce of top shelf weed, even in California.
Talk to someone who really knows weed and they would probably laugh at the weed that you're buying.
Especially if you grow it yourself lol
You sound like my friend that buys mid and thinks it 🔥, but when he smokes with me he can't hang at all and will still swear on his life that pricing doesn't make a difference at all. But glad for you, I might be a little jealous of your lower tolerance or lack of discernment for quality though.
Cannabis has no real barrier to entry. It has artificial ones created by governments & laws, but anyone with a little patience and persistence can make dispensary quality weed. Therefore, the market will eventually crash as laws allowing for personal cultivation continue to expand. DIY weed also reduces resource consumption due to transportation costs, packaging & water use.
not exactly, think about tomatoes, you can grow organic quality tomatoes or better by yourself but the market for them is still a solid one, that was one of the first arguments against personal cultivation but this has never happened in any crop industry
@@sincero1936 Tomatoes don't cost $400 an ounce.
That pricing is residual from it being a black-market item, though. If restrictions were removed nationally there would likely be a glut of product, driving the price down.
unless you don't want or have time to grow - yeah there are more people who don't want to grow than grow
Besides being the only place on planet earth where an f5 and an ef5 tornado have hit the same house on separate occurrences Oklahoma seems like a great place to live
In San Francisco, you pay a "donation" at inspection time too. Nothing you can do about it. They don't care. ~ $25 to 30k, but that was a few years ago. Not in the biz, don't use... Just reporting facts.
As someone who's born and raised in tulsa Oklahoma this makes me really happy for Oklahoma 💯💯 big W
I'd appreciate your comment!
As an ok med patient you can buy some top shelf flower for less than $10/g
"Top shelf"
Its dirt cheap now, no one pay that much now.
10$ 8 th
In California, it was very easy to get a medical cannabis prescription.
But in Oregon, it's way more intense. You have to fill out LOTS of paperwork, and you sit with a real doctor.
In California, the "doctor" tells you, "Oh, having trouble to sleep, okay here you go."
But in Oregon, the doctor told me some scary stuff about my medical condition, even though my Rx is primarily for Autism. He told me that the excess blood glucose attacks the finer nerves in your body. I knew that it could potentially cause blindness. What he told me that my regular doctor did not is, "There are fine nerves attached to your heart. If those nerves are damaged, then you could have having a heart attack right now, and you'd never know it."
No matter what state you live in, it's very easy to find a doctor who will tell you that cannabis will kill you, or will make you into a deranged murderer. Remember, 90% of doctors went to med school DURING cannabis prohibition, so of course they're going to be taught nothing but the negatives about weed. It will be another decade or three before the AMA and the rest of the medical establishment gets on board with the truth and the benefits of weed. Mainly because there's no big pharma to pay the doctors the "commissions" for prescribing weed.
Love it. TN. Take note!
I wonder whether the need for electricity and water for cannabis will influence resources.
Hi there! Adam Tschorn here (the guy talking to all the Oklahoma folks in the video). You bring up a good point. While we didn't talk about it in terms of Oklahoma, I know that here in California a lot of cannabis cultivation takes place (indoors) in the desert and there are al kinds of ways to recycle/recirculate the water used. But yes, the electricity bill (unless you're growing completely outdoors, which isn't financially feasible for most commercial growers) is going to be ... steep! Thanks for watching -- and commenting!
We don’t have the problem of running out of water & electricity in Oklahoma. We have plenty of resources. With the correct facility design / LED lights & well water to a RO system & you can grow a lb for as little as $0.30 - $0.40 per gram prior to packaging.
@@premiumagriculture2414 tell it to your neighbors whose wells your sucking dry.
Is it called "Toklahoma" yet?
In the city we call it smoklahoma😭
Solid interviews
what month is the start of long season?
The market in Michigan is pretty good now. Tons of competition = ounces of 28% gary payton for 150 bucks.
Great price. We're having price wars here in Oklahoma and you can find top shelf for 150. I thought when I could finally buy from a dispensary I would go for the high end stuff, but found myself lured by amazing bargains that I had to snag.
@@SqeakyToy sometimes the hundred dollar shelf here smacks just as hard. Dabs of good stuff 4/100
@@technodrone313 Would you believe we can get dab for 6/100? We paid $105 for a Z of Purple Punch. Still my home grown costs less than $20 / oz to produce, unit cost.
@@SqeakyToy I've seen 8/9 for a hundred. The 4/100 is about as good as it gets tho
that is a good deal. You can find deals like that in Cali but you will have to shop around. Always ask for the OTD price. Tax is inconsistently applied and it isn't based on what you pay, but what they pay or similar wholesale price. And there are happy hour or early bird discounts, senior, student, first timer, etc,
I am from Oklahoma and it is true that there is literally at least 2-3 dispensaries on every main street in any town from tiny to OKC.
oklahoma needs more recognition
@Doggy Doodle i was born here we are the best state in the country go to texas with that bs
@Doggy Doodle tweakers r downtown
@Doggy Doodle also a lot of the homeless shelters in oklahoma have went into a mass remodel at least every salvation army here is and they where forced to kick everyone out till they finish, did you know that!
I love how the weed in the thumbnail has thrip damage on the leaves lol
I am from Oklahoma about time.
Wish her luck but if the prices don’t climb it will be a struggle
Nobody needs to pay for weed when they can grow their own on their cards as it is..
@@tophernuttle420 what are you a hippie hahaha 😆 😂 🤣 😅 😜 😄
@@brickman291 nothing beats growing ur own stuff
@@tophernuttle420 You are not going to grown you own just like you dont grow your own fruit and veggies.
I do grow my own fruit and veggies, and I do grow my own Cannabis, you're just lazy mane its okay to admit it.
politics and rich people find a way to destroy everything.
I can’t stand the LA times normally, I’m a staunch conservative and Orthodox Christian but cannabis has helped me tremendously with my Aspergers syndrome, I didn’t start smoking until I was 25 and it was a game changer for me. I really enjoy this series y’all are doing.
Good editing, informative and entertaining. I hope it can be legal federally someday.
Whatever happened to the real marijuana back in the '80s I grew up in Northern California. And definitely know the difference
Exactly I'm from Kentucky and been doing tha sister 1986
Sounds like they are having the same issues that California has. Illegal grow ops. Legal/Illegal mixing of material. They will have complaints with smell due to poor grow ops with poor filtration.
You got that right! Illegal grows and salting of product has hampered the market here severely. It's like 800 an lb or less now. The legislators are making new laws so fast now that one can't keep up with all the new legislation. There's even a new bill (that will probably pass too bc all have) that will take away your dispensary or grow license if an employee gets busted smoking a joint off-premises...along with a 10k fine... Smh. Plus, there's a moratorium starting in a couple months that will last for two years..so no new licenses issued for two years. So, I don't know about how "free" things will be in Oklahoma going forward, now that the state sees the money it can make in fees and fines... Gmab.
Ok fuc up the market for us here in cali and no it's not 800 it going for 300 for a pack past 4 years
I'm here in England and I used to buy Cali. Beautiful stuff I managed to get it shipped over. Now I cannot get it and have to resort to CBD lmao. Just shows never take anything for granted. You may lose it all
Just lost your hook up ;)
Its still moves in mass in the right packaged :)
I'd appreciate your comment!
Seen a handful of comment's about smaller mom & pop size businesses going belly up. For those of you that are struggling I would recommend trying to get into the home grow supplies side of the industry the moment it becomes available for recreational use.
I currently live in Ohio and we are really close to legalizing recreational use in mid 2023. I'm 43 now and I haven't touched the stuff since I was 17-18 years old because of the fear of getting in trouble with the law. Now that there is a chance for me to partake legally, I have been researching the hell out of growing it for my self in preparation for things to come.
Having a local shop/store that specializes in products to help home growers (specifically for marijuana) would be a great place to stay in the industry, and to help newbie's like my self grow successful plants as a hobby and means of self reliance, satisfaction, and quality of plant and life.
But after its all said & done its not a very good high. Much ado about nothing
They forgot to mention the tolerated Chinese nationalists used to flood local markets with products produced by Chinese slaves via HR1603. This was done to drive the mom and pops out of business because they can not afford to keep up with Chinese nationalists who pay cash for properties and use gray area slave labor. The nationalist operations have a much lower bottom dollar, which sends local mom and pops under.If you are organized crime and know what you are doing, it takes 2 years to buy property, build greenhouses, bring in "immigrants" and get enough product out to pay for the millions invested.
The government had plenty of time to investigate and stop this, but they did not! Why!? This was a planned destruction of the cannabis industry, so we can end up like big tobacco.
The tolerated organized crime convinces regulators we need more regulation, when all we needed was the government to remove the bad actors, which are easy to identify due to their large scale operations!
Middle America can not afford the excess regulation like corporations can, and now regulators are convinced this is what needs to happen.
Government negligence is how we got here and now middle America will suffer even more while mom and pops get scapegoated for flooding the market. If you knew what it cost to grow good weed, you would know it's impossible for low funded people to flood markets with decent cannabis This article mimics "astroturfing" too! Why? The plant at 14:18 is infested with thrips, but they proudly display an infected plant, due to little knowledge of the industry. Any industry leader would be able to identify this, so who is really making these videos and why?! This is why I suggest astroturfing, no cannabis farm owner would allow for a thrip infected plant to be filmed. It is bad for business
Their love of $ is all we're up against. That was the whole reason for criminalizing it to begin with, to stop us from growing our own for our own use, and then selling us their patent-able synthetic replacements.
Is the farm available for tours?
It looks like Maine is doing it the best.
More weed stories please
Once upon a time, I smoked weed. Fin
Hey big brother. Thank you for I did not know of anything. Lol . God bless you all. Amen. You all are awesome people. Amen
All these people 10 years ago or 20 years ago wouldn’t consider doing any of this
Great video!! Investments are stepping stones to wealth .., you won't have to worry about money any more mostly because your investment creates more money
True! This pandemic really taught me a lot, I realised that depending on salaries alone is very bad. A colleague that lost his job went from living comfortably into hardship because he doesn't have any investment to fall back to.
I invest majorly in stocks and gold, I must stay it's a store of value for me. I'm planning on investing more into it.
Hell yeah don't get to many videos about Oklahoma. I love it everything is cheap. I can get two zips 1g dab and 1g cart for $60-70 in the same packaging yall pay $80 an 8th for. You can also grow six plants for every card holder living in the household. That's why it's so high for Oklahoma ran places. But you also got a lot of people running a shop that buy cheap from unlicensed friends since everyone and their grandma is growing. But like they said you can pay like 4-5k and remove all limits. Oklahoma just loves money so it's really like the Wild West out here because they are not really enforcing anything or checking up on things as long as the money is coming in.
I lo I've in Missouri 1g cart at 70% is like 95 bucks flower is affordable as are edibles. But the concentrates are outrageous. And this place I have read about in oklahoma doing disco brow ies and 1000mg pizzas for a state that use to be one of the worst states t ok get busted in you guys got some cool shit.
@@squantohaze5562 that is what missouri is trying to do next is recreational 12% tax but card holders are exempt.
I live in Oklahoma and buy 1g dabs for $8 and $10 an ounce for shake, $30 an ounce for buds. The market is flooded. We have some of the cheapest product in the nation.
@@k4video22 if you get a trim tray with a screen you can freeze the shake and run it through the screen to get a lot of keef. I have a dab press so I press the keef. But you can also make a fat ass ball of hash if you don't mind rolling a jar for an hour or two.
100/oz for Pacific Stone (outdoor-various I, S, H strains) and 1g HighFly carts $35 OTD in L.A. $80/eighth is too much unless it is amazing, Spending more gives too little improvement and sometimes none, from my experience. 1/8th oz is too little quantity for $80 unless you are rich,
can i get a Oklahoma License if i am from a different state?? and if yes what are the steps?
GOD BLESS YOU ALL. AMEN . DALLAS TX.
Don’t feed the government - grow yer own stone.
"Nothing turns a Conservative into a Communist like cannabis"
That doesn't even make sense.
Communism doesn't allow Any free market. Guy needs an education on what Communism even is. 🤦♂️
if anything it has made me more conservative and more against communism
There has to be a disconnect somewhere here?
This is like all the craft brewerys that opened across the US.
Weed is the gateway plant to buying lighter fluid.
and rolling papers too.
@@larrywardlow2777 I learned that using a natural stone bowl never breaks or has to be replaced and you can make your own from Crystal's also if you have a diamond tip drill bit.
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Look at the the bud at the 14:20 mark. Covered in thrip poop. That sums up Oklahoma weed.
just put 6 clones in my back yard, banana buttercups, kick flip #6, glazed apricot gelato, and thunder diesel, in tulsa , ok . Oklahoma is perfect for growing weed. My stuff in the back yard is just as good as the indoor medical bud, doesn't look as good but it kicks.
Why has everything been moved inside if it’s legal to grow. It has been proven many times that mother nature does a much better job than we can.
Because most of the year, it's too cold to grow in Oklahoma. Not just temperature but you get more control over moisture, lighting and pest prevention.
My uncle used to tell me he grew huge plants in his back yard in Oklahoma... said he had to keep tying them down to a railroad tie so they wouldnt be taller than his wood fence. Idk... some say you cant grow weed outside in montana because of the short season... but then there are alot of people who grow really good weed outdoors here... lol
Year round growing plus indoor grown cannabis is more potent and higher quality than outdoor and commands a higher price. Outdoor grows can cheaply produce a big volume of flower, but the quality is less and the price will be lower. Here's a good example: I bought some bargain cannabis here in Lawton at the dispensary. It was Birthday Cake, 1 ounce for $85 OTD. Smelled great and tasted great but was seedy and poorly trimmed and the buds were not nice looking. I grew out some of the seeds in my indoor hydroponic LED perpetual harvest home grow and got an amazing pheno that is now my best strain. The difference between the bud the seeds came from, grown outdoors and my indoor grown bud is night and day.
@@squantohaze5562 I harvest every 3 weeks with a perpetual harvest set up.
@@squantohaze5562 California already has massive solar farms. Oklahoma has wind farms. Solar works great here too and lots of houses and businesses have panels. Then there's always light deprivation greenhouses. But no matter how you do it indoor cannabis is superior. The same plant grown indoors vs outdoors you will see the difference. And indoor grows can be soil even live soil organic for full flavor.
seems kinda dumb to build a building and put roof on it blocking out the sun in order to use electricity to provide "sunlight" to the plants. why not make the top part see through and use natural sunlight to grow plants thereby reducing cost and electricity usage.
these people try and sound so smart, yet build a building out in the woods to grow plants using electricity for lighting instead of the Free sunlight the blocked out.
It's about controlling boundaries of inputs to get the best outputs. Darkness could be a key factor in this. Plants can stray from farmers timeline with light leak. I agree with what you're saying though I'd rather be outside in the dirt and sun myself. This is corporate production with regulation and a wild price tags. It'll have the exact same timeline of problems as CA too I'd imagine, but I can appreciate the exposure and openness. I'd bet if we talked about a consumer push to grow their own crops you get pushback on both sides, but that's to be e$pected. My hope is for a more open and environmentally rejuvenating process to fix our dead grounds. That's where all the real potential is imo. Either way, I think we're all gonna make it.
Because when your growing indoors your controlling the rays of lights that hit the plant, the temperature,air moisture, soil make up etc so you can make a plant grow in the most perfect condition possible. Sun grown or greenhouse grown weed will never be as potent or terpy as indoors weed.
It really does seem dumb and yet...indoor grown cannabis is better quality. The ultimate is a light deprivation greenhouse setup, which is a greenhouse that can cover the windows to make it dark and usually has augmented lighting. In that kind of grow you can use the energy of the sun while still producing indoor quality cannabis.
@@ejw7824 sungrown is terpier and more potent you just havent got it from the right grower lol
@@6.0stangg nah I’ve tired plenty of out doors and green house grass and none of it could ever touch some fire indoors.
Love it shot out to oklahoma from Northern California keep up the good work.grow grow grow grow the good cannabis . provide people with hight grade cannabis at a cheep pice you will do grate in business.dont do what a lot of cannabis club's in california do over charge for quality cannabis .if you sale good quality cannabis at a good price. You will do better that california.
that Oklahoma bud is NO JOKE. FIRE!
If your crop is full of mold and you're unable to sell it, there's always states where it's totally illegal still and they will pay top dollar for your poisoned weed.
Buyer beware. The moldy buds are always the best ones in the bag. Dankness.
@@melaniecotterell8263 well really the FDA along with other federal agencies are guilty of being party to the crime of treason by not protecting the public's health by backing science, facts and truth for over 4 decades and instead rely on stupid unproven augments which profit various industries whose lobbyists pay them off.
When is California going to learn? As predicted California's regulations and taxes have forced another market to go elsewhere.
If Cali doesn't smarten up, skid row and it's many military bases are going to be all that's left. Even if you're the wealthiest person in the world (Elon Musk) it makes sense to bring your company out of state.
I was thinking the same thing. Just another story of over regulation by CA causing business to leave.
California like most democratic states seem to go to waste.
@@jasonburt5404 yup
Well, many people are not aware of the fact that China owns a HUGE part of California and all our politicians have sold us out for generations. Those yearly wildfires that we have are mostly set and China comes in and buys the burned out land for cheap. It's no accident that business is leaving California. China doesn't need them here. All those Calif. farmers who lost their land when the state cut off their water in the sham 'drought' of a few years ago?? Guess who was there to buy up the farmland?? China!! The huge Homeless problem?? It has been noticed by many citizens that homeless camps disappear overnight, the occupants are taken to FEMA camps, and never heard from again. This is not news but the heinous truth has got to come out to the rest of the country because when China comes to take possession of their California investments, it will be a gateway into the rest of the U.S. BTW, I was born & raised in Calif & I have watched this develop for many years.
The big money is in charge.
I was a medical patient activist in the Sacramento area for well over 16 years. We changed laws. We proved we could take the money out of it. No one wanted to hear it. You got what you wanted Legalization!! Now there is no money in it. I Love it....
I've lived in Oklahoma my whole life and this is making me want to grow hella weed.
Who is the producer of this show? Come to Oregon and I'll give you a tour of what a wasteland of "adult use" carpet bagging looks like after medical was railroaded and residency restrictions dissolved.
What you didn't hear any of the OK transplants say is that they force property prices and rent up into a inflated place where locals can't afford - making their own home feel alien to them and seem stupidly expensive - the locals need to realize that OK Ganja is going to every corner of the country, just like OR and CA ganja - we over produce by a factor of at least 3-4x. That extra is not getting "composted".
METRC doesn't do shit, and to enforce it on medical is flat communism in the flavor of central panning and control as a facade of safety. METRC itself is spyware and makes your computer into a vector for hacks. Ask anyone who does pentests on software.
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“This is what freedom looks like.” -Says proud Oklahoman cannabis guy
Also “you may not get an abortion, because we own your body.”- says governor of Oklahoma
I guess that they think that they own the body inside of the body? They can't stop people from going out of state. Not yet. Who would have guessed, back in 1973, that in 50 years weed would be legal and abortion illegal?
That's what freedom looks like for the unborn
@@Pontifical_Jester yes, the freedom to be born with one parent, most likely in poverty, to a unprepared, unwed teenage girl. What a life this child you saved will have . You sound like a real compassionate guy who cares about the poor baby until it leaves the womb. After that, you don’t care.
@@Trentberkeley86 you act as if birth control and personal responsibility don’t exist. Just because you make a mistake you don’t kill your child
@@Trentberkeley86 I think they would rather be alive.
Canada says "Hold my beer"
LOL @ pissed off plants looking like they're covered in powder mold in their b roll shots
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This is how ALL states should with cannabis.
Lacking the tri-valley soil it can be mimicked but never duplicated.
how i have to calle on Oklahoma for gt the lic
Because of all the regulations and fees in California, I could no longer afford to purchase my cannabis from a dispensary. As soon as it was voted in that Cannabis could then be used for recreational purposes, the law also stated, we could grow 6 plants for our personal consumption. I did originally go on Medical MJ which I had to pay about $30 per year for the doctor signing off on my needs. That was before it became legal for everyone else, but when it was legalized the state started to gouge us to the point my cost per month went up 100%. That was when I decided to grow my own and make my own Rick Simpson Oil (RSO) which I take nightly for sleep.
Because we only use Female plants, a person will have to plant more than 6 plants because sometimes you may get from 30% to50% males. When the males begin to show their tiny pollen sacks I yank them and in the garbage they went. Gruesome Newsom is the worst Governor we've ever had and along with trying to destroy the cannabis industry with high taxes and fees he is destroying our state, such that the likes of Elon Musk is moving part of his operation out of our state, which produces 10s of millions of tax dollars for the state. We tried to take his ass out with a recall election, but the DemonRats have too tight a grip on our state.
6:28 smart move man lool
Much blessings
It seems really wasteful to grow large scale indoors. The sun is free electricity requires energy to produce.
250 and ounce in montana. doesnt matter if you have a card or not its still the same. doesnt matter if you buy more price doesnt go down its still the same. i know someone in another state that pays about 90 dollars an ounce. needless to say, I stopped smoking it cause i cant afford it. had to go back on prescription drugs now
Moving to OK 😂 sounds awesome
If you just grow your own….you won’t deal with any of these fools…..
anyone notice the 1 cent plant in the clone shop? LOL
Mo.Recreational just opened Friday👏
Where am I ?