@@mrcookies409 we are taxed enough. Let industry actually pay for education. For example, if automakers need engineers, let them pay for the teachers and the students to learn engineering for their industry. Why should we pay to work? We should be paid to work. Government has this back asswards.
I attended Super AI in Singapore recently as part of my job in Cybersecurity. It was repeared over and over that 30 to 50 % of Computer Scientists in Singapore has been replaced in the last 6 months alone. This is a clear direction. They also said over and over that when companies go to such AI companes asking about AI's potential in work the main goal is 100%, not 99%, 100% of the time the goal is the same: How can we impliment AI and replace many of the people who make up the workforce. Imagine an employee who NEVER takes a break, never is late except for glitch time, simply doesn't moan or get upset, only has the goal of completeing the task as quickly and well as possible based on the input of directives. That is a perfect employee.
It should be a threat to middle management, whose jobs should be done by automated systems but otherwise it's quite useless kind of like middle management.
I am a lawyer and, for many good reasons that I prefer not to specify here, I am against the use of AI by judges to produce judicial decisions. Some time ago I was talking about this subject with a fellow lawyer in the elevator of the building where I have my law office. At one point I was interrupted by a woman. She said she was very worried because as a confectioner she would not be able to incorporate AI into the production of homemade sweets. She was afraid of seeing her income disappear. This little story sheds a lot of light on the issue. The press advertises this technology a lot, but it will not be useful for everyone and AI will certainly create a huge number of problems. And I don't say this just thinking about automation, job reduction, but problems related to legal security and even the mental health of users. The frustration of some businesspeople will be great and many will suffer more losses by using AI than by not using it. When the AI financial bubble bursts will all these men and women pushing the new technology look like they smelled and tasted shit?
Nobody knows when robots will take over many physcial jobs, but I will give it 5 years max or less. If I had to take a guess, it's going to depend on how fast these companies are developing the robots, and if people can afford them, prices can get lower. Some CEOs already have the money to get one; it's only a matter of time before we see robots almost everywhere.
@@cr4yv3n Aymen. Id say its the most disruptive. As humans we could create such a beautiful world, but greed and power corrupts any chance of a equal and kind world. The fact this lady thought that hiring people using ai is equal to shared benefit speaks mountains on that. The way they think they can try speak confidently and use the fact that there are no in depth follow up questions to fool us. Just money/power hungry lizards at this point. Idk what needs to change, but they will be the end of us all if we don't change it.
Really telling that her answer to "Are employees going to get time off for contributing to the boom in production or are you going to make them work harder?" Was "Instead of the few minutes employees take to think about the issue, look it up, and wind down, we'll now have them working on harder more impactful things" Wtf 🙃
Not if we AI Supply us with the resources to live, thrive and pursue our (productive) interests (keeping in mind we need to be able to survive should a technological disaster occur).
Actually, NO! I feel more fed up with incompetent doctors telling me to take medication that will kill me. Most of them only work for money and don’t care about killing you. I would Feel More secure With Validating With Ai ❤ and my common sense.❤❤❤❤❤❤
It's been happening since the industrial revolution. Productivity grows, compensation for it falls. AI questions the paradigms of capitalism itself. In ideal world people would do things that they like and have a basic income, while AI and robots do the jobs, but this doesn't go in line with capitalism driven by greed.
Yes, it IS very demoralizing to spend your last weeks on your laid-off job training your replacements as I and my fellow software developers were made to do in the great wave of "offshoring" that CEOs embraced in the USA 20 years ago.
Like all other innovations that displaced workers, AI will free people up from the drudgery of being lawyers, computer programmers, investment bankers, etc. so they can do more important and interesting jobs like field workers, garbage men, plumbers, construction workers, etc. Not being sarcastic here. Those jobs are really more important.
Stephanie asked those guys about her concern that only CEOs will profit from this technology (while we, as a society, would have to pull this burden of job market disruption), and they both just mumbled something. My God, the guy even brought up the Vatican. It's like asking bees to ban the honey.
The person in pink I dont agree with at all . Training human to human will always be important. Ai will also take revenue away from a lot of people & our capitalist system depends on people spending money ? Why is no one talking about this ???
Today's (19/7/24) situation with IT systems being down should wake up governments to the obvious fact that if you rely too much on technology you put essential systems at risk when they stop working.
Re training to what?? By the time they learn something new, Ai would be able to automate even that. Then people will get frustrated.. Ai is a destroyer of social fabric created for hundreds of years. Creating a system to replace humans entirely is like reducing horse to just a show peace.
"Teaching the ai" You may not know you are doing it if "this call may be recorded for quality purposes" you are creating a training dataset that can be used by an AI someday. (So, of they say they afe not using your calls to train, they may have just not started yet. The recordings are the valuable bit)
Ok, first off, what we're calling AI, rather pretentiously at that, isn't Artificial Intelligence, it's just Algorithms, they don't do anything but reflect ourselves back at us, no independent learning, feelings, awareness, consciousness, etc. In other words, people need to calm tf down with all this recreational outrage.
but even this is a temporary state. We train A.I based on massive data right now but that's going to change when we have these truly gigantic A.I systems that have consumed all of human knowledge in one training run and everything going forward will be done automatically through software using virtual training that will go from expensive as in today you need to train a robot for essentially thousands of years (obviously sped up in datacenters) to get good at a job. But that will move to robots needing no training as they will be able to encounter new problems and learn zero shot how to do them through a massive understanding it already has about how everything works physically and any "training" can happen in real-time in simulation as a robot encounters new wildly novel tasks. We will not need humans to train A.I in the coming years and its then you'll see not just jobs go away but entire companies branching off in all directions will become automated.
this is the biggest problem no one is really talking about. When all jobs are replaced, who are the automated jobs selling to? If no one has money because they aren't working. How does the company selling anything even work anymore? It makes no sense at all. We all still need to eat, we need a modern world to be full of products and services but they only exist because they make money from people with money. If a government is somehow having to pay the entire country it will collapse. We have to address this with a portion of all A.I driven work to be taxable. An A.I tax that pays for UBI. But this in itself is only a temporary middle step to keep industries going. In the future and by future I mean just a decade or two from now. We will need to remake society around no jobs existing, money won't make any sense. All work will be A.I and robot driven and we have to somehow remake our entire modern world around this without causing mass panic and triggering countrywide riots that could permanently destroy entire towns that will never be fixed. These are the crazy making years where there is so much good A.I will do and so much bad people will start to attribute to A.I because we're not all going into this understanding how society has to shift rapidly to meet a post job, post money, post company world. I believe there is an amazing world that will benefit us all on the other side of this but we have to navigate our way through it and I'm just not seeing governments or the masses even aware this is coming.
There are chances people will revolt against greedy corpo and their government when almost everyone lose their livelihood. Don't forget they're just humans who exploit other humans that we just given power.
"Train up people in AI" ... It is changing too quickly. Generally understanding how to do prompts may last a bit but what a good prompt is changes quickly.
We’re all working to automate their factories. If everyone unionized and opposed this, we’d have nothing to worry about. But instead we’re being gaslit into competing with eachother for nonsense like bonuses, promotions, and survival.
Unions are probably almost irrelevant to this issue since unions represent employees which is fine, but anyone who is replaced with an A.I. will no longer be considered an employee and therefore not covered by a union by default.
Dishwashing systems are already expensive... You'd probably have to redo the entire kitchen... With the amount of water dripping the robot would have to be water proof... Dishes break and slip and fall so hopefully that robot can pick all the different size pieces from all corners... Most kitchen dishwasher position also do prep work that robot better have knife skills too 😅 And be able to throw out the trash clean bathrooms, restock inventory etc. Dishwashers are pillars of a kitchen a lot of times they'll step on the line and make dishes. Some of the best chefs I've worked for started as dishwashers
Yeah, AI makes a huge opportunity spending time and queueing at Jobcentre for unemployment benefits and watching posts of IT billionaires on Instagram while are on super yachts! Excellent future for people. Congratulations!
Maybe now we can have a society that allows for a one income earner family system. Where a parent can afford to stay home and have a much mire active role in their child development and education. Imagine that!! Even better, multigenerational villas, or tribes if you will. Can work well in a seasoned democracy. Ask government to encourage this so we can start now.
4:25 as an employee of similar company I will translate it for you folks to a human speaking language. They are going to eliminate( or cut some positions) the part of HR department responsible for the onboarding process, and they will be able to track and analyze your behavior and productivity each second with a lot more powerful analytical tool(And nobody knows how this black box work and make a decision). Yay!
if the economy is based on mass consumption and those masses will no longer be able to consume because they have no employment therefore money....well.... the fact that you ask the question strongly indicates humanity is an existential threat to itself
unchanged in how things work, yes its a huge problem that will first lead to protests that will grow and eventually that will turn to rioting on a scale we've never seen before. But people are starting to understand and wrestle with this problem. I would have liked to have seen A.I tax already being put through government by now but sadly that are so far behind. But it will happen that we adapt and eventually companies will be purely software based with no running costs outside of the raw compute which will be trivial. We will all get to consume more than ever before because what we consume will be made for almost no cost by an automated system that only needs the raw materials. So the real cost of Nike shoes or a Samsung phone won't be how much the owners get, the management, the shareholders, the people that make it, distribute it and market it. It will just come down to the raw materials cost of making a shoe and the raw materials cost of making a phone. But its still a very uncertain near future as mass automation is not being addressed. People are not being taken care of but its my hope this will start to be addressed as it becomes more obvious to everyone there's a big problem with automation left to run out of control.
No, it is intrinsically not. But what do we learn from the past? What do we learn to let our life depending so much on MicroSoft, Amazon, FB, APPLE and Google? Income gap between top and bottom of the middle class gets so wide. AI will deepen our dependence on their product and Income gap will be wider than ever.
AI is part of the process of automation of work. Society must embrace this and redistribute the profits of AI activity in order for humans to benefit. If we do not redistribute the profits of AI to humans, we humans will have to compete with AI.
AI's rapid advancement poses significant challenges to the job market, as automation and intelligent systems increasingly perform tasks traditionally done by humans. While this technology can lead to greater efficiency and innovation, it also raises concerns about job displacement and economic inequality. The critical question is: How can society balance the benefits of AI with the need to ensure meaningful employment and economic security for all?
‘Democratizing access to talents across the planet” that means “Finding the cheapest smart people that we pay cheap and can work in our company and help us being more profitable and assuring the top management get better bonuses”. I think this is the verbal equivalent of a triple backflip.
here's where A.I turns that on its head. People running things will be replaced by A.I before the labour force is automated. Imagine an AGI like software service that costs a million times less to run than a single data center today. That's what we're heading for in 10 years from now. Now imagine that same A.I service creates a company that we'll just call A.I Uber. This software based company employees people to drive around and pick up other humans. Its like Uber but it has no CEO or management of any kind. No address to even pay for. It exists purely in software and is able to run this company 100x better than the best CEO's and managers the industry could ever hire and it can do so cheaper than human run company. Real Uber will be put out of business by A.I Uber and my point is that the A.I Uber will still employee people but it will be software doing the hiring and managing of that. CEO's think they're safe from automation but they will be the first to go in a coming wave.
As a individual that worked at a company where I was expected to train my line manager I can truly and honestly reflect on how this makes people feel and that result is not rewarding psychologicaly from that perspective. When we change the perspective from replacements to collaborators then the reward is quite forfilling. If as a society or broadly as a civilisation we look at the more abstract perspective of humans to create data for training and that this data is becoming limited then the basic building block of a sustainable future is creating a reward architecture for creating good quality data from all aspects of human civilisation and the nature of planet earth as a whole then the quality of the training data improves, generative AI will not need to be trained on synthetic data and then a relationship built of collaboration will create a lasting alignment between each of us.
Yes, it IS very demoralizing to spend your last weeks on your laid-off job training your replacements as I and my fellow software developers were made to do in the great wave of "offshoring" that CEOs embraced in the USA 20 years ago.
@@mattburrito It makes more sense than children working in coal mines, whilst the adults running the operation live a life of luxury. It's time for a New World Order.
Perhaps that is because you think he is saying "doing things is for robots" Human jobs are for most people the work we perform so we can survive and have some kind of chance at doing the things we really want to do.
And for many people jobs also a feeling of valuable, also a possibility for socialize, and it also makes them not to do harmful things to themself or to the society what happens when people feel they have nothing to to and they are worthless
@@fragebogenvbc Have you ever questioned why people feel that way? Have you ever considered they may only feel that way because they are used to it? Let's try something new and see how people feel in 100 years.
As AI replaces worker income and tax payer dollars then it will have to be the corporation that pays higher taxes to provide retraining programs. The corporation is earning the same or more revenue using AI that doesn't receive a paycheck,thus making corporations flush with cash. Once the upfront cost of AI is realized then maintenance and programing cost will be far less then a human worker. Never needs a raise, benifits, nor will AI go on strike.
I'de rather have automated factories and offices with U.S companies taxed for UBI then to outsource it overseas where we don't even get to tax the profits.
Many people in UK can not use a basic computer when everything is automated by the government and people are required to access public services online. So, talking about IA and replacing many people's jobs is farfetched to so many people. Get people trained basics first.
Computers aren't new, they've been around for 20+ years. People have had plenty of time to learn the basics, but for one reason or another they decided it wasn't that important. These people will now have to learn the hard way with everyone else being years ahead of them.
@@ol2510No, no, you don’t understand. All computer related tasks will be automated. There is not point any longer to learn anythjng related to computers, unless you want to become an expert in hardware.
"It wont take your job, it will make your job more effective", so will salaries increase with this increased productivity? Will the amount of work increase 10x-100x for every company so companies do not need to fire people? AI will definitely take jobs and make a crisis unless large structural changes happens very quickly. Big tech dont want to admit it because they dont want to be regulated and governments dont want to regulate it because then other countries will get and competitive edge
Well A.I can have my job. Robots can have personal profiles on public records & bank accounts like humans do (if the gov made it into law that companies have to abide by). Robots should get paid and the best thing is, they don't care about being taxed. Tax robots 50% of their pay (which will go into universal income for humans). The other 50% will go towards the robot's maintenance and repair/replacement costs when they brake. You could even tax them higher than 50%. You could tax them more than a human whilst paying them less than a human, so it benefits the company & government spending more than a human salary would (although there needs to be a minimum wage for robots to maintain the amount of money the government gets in tax, therefore won't lower government-spending potential for healthcare, universal income, etc). As for the fun jobs, like film, TV, sports, music, art, etc. Humans will still find a way to capitalise around their hobbies & interests. They might get stiff competition from Robotic companies that fill that industry, but it won't stop the human from creating if they know universal income will support them if they succeed or not. Hobbies & interests are hobbies & interests whether you succeed to capitalise around it or not.
Well of course, we -- lay people - have been saying this from the beginning. The mega rich got rid of jobs to pay tuppence to those living in foreign lands....with AI, they will choose again to go cheap..... It is not just the jobs --- what are we going to do!? What do we do in the cars if we are not driving , what do we do if no jobs.... but are still taking foods, lands, water and needing services...
AI is only a threat if we allow subliterates (business majors) to control it. So long as it is applied to the right areas, it will only remove that jobs that are meritless gatekeepers (business majors) and free up time and resources for productive people to do meaningful work.
Meta AI wrote that maybe Artificial Intelligence is indirectly involved to crash the humans' Microsoft 365 for Its 90's model Algorithms. AI added that the old engine with new body.
Many countries are facing mass retirement issues. The job reduction by AI might be balanced by the job openings. A smaller percentage of the population is going to be of working age. This mass retirement is also a record mass of knowledge and experience. Again AI may counter balance that gap.
If AI is a threat to jobs all that means is we would be much more efficient and profitable worldwide since these systems are cheaply and easily implemented and every developed nation at least would be able to afford universal basic income allowing us to eliminate poverty entirely and level the playing field so to speak. I wonder what social class might feel this is a bad thing.
@fragebogenvbc basic in this context means enough to live and satisfy basic needs (housing, food, clothing, entertainment). You are missing the point a bit though. If automation takes over the jobs it creates excess wealthh as you arent paying staff, this excess wealth can be redistributed through taxes and given to people as UBI making the living standard of everyone rise substantially and gives the lower class excess spending power which boosts the economy (one of the biggest driving factors of a countries economy is impulse/luxury spending) therefore bolstering the middle class.
@@sandy120 they won't redistiribute the extra money to you, except benefits. And you are lucky while you not see what will a good percent of millions of people without thing to do make with themself, with their neighborhoods and their cities.
@asadmalik2464 Creative work jobs are very much at risk from AI as well. People who work in marketing, games development, advertising, music and much more are Actively being pushed out because AI automates jobs that takes Years of experience and mastery to pull off. It makes a mockery of human effort.
Practically none, despite the fear mongering. Absolutely none of the arts. Anything physically demanding while requiring precision, AI certainly isn't performing surgery or a circus act anytime soon.
Why can't you just use Generative A.I. to develop their own hands and other limbs rather then having humans struggle to figure it out? I mean not just the limbs but also of course the programming necessary to operate them effectively.
Have you been living under a rock? There are entire companies being created by leveraging AI, new processes, technical solutions etc. Large tech giants like MSFT, Google and Salesforce are investing billions on these solutions and there are entire conferences dedicated to AI. If you don't pay attention, you'll be out of work by the time you find out about the "action".
History shows that technology has always created new jobs; this is true. However, we are entering something unprecedented: as AI advances, its ability to think will increasingly resemble and surpass that of humans. We are creating artificial humans, but better than humans, who need absolutely nothing besides energy and occasional part inspections. Imagine if you could create a population of humans and command them to work for your entire family without questioning or complaining. So yes, all jobs are and will be automated, following the rule of capitalism: more profit at a lower cost. The key point for this to happen is not just to keep improving our algorithms, but to invent the much-dreamed-of AGI.
You might say: "humans will be necessary to create algorithms or to inspect their qualities." This is true for now, yes. However, do not forget that the very concept of work is an algorithm: a means to achieve an end. Therefore, it is logical to create artificial intelligences to create other machines and inspect as well as any human. You might say: "but it doesn't have creativity or empathy. It won't innovate the work or be able to be a doctor, as empathy is needed." Enter AGI: you have true creativity, innovation, empathy (this will be simulated as perfectly as a human's), and everything a human possesses, but better than a human's. We will create, as our ancestors imagined, Golem, the Great, and we will not stop its growth, because stopping it is stagnation, and stagnation, as history has repeatedly shown, is not a good idea.
@@OrionGreyhawk But will it remain fully automated or develop a version of first person consciousness (I get that there have been a lot of sci-fi movies about this)
@@MarkPatmos Being honest, self-awareness in the algorithm could be potentially risky. During the time of servitude, the workers were often dissatisfied with their positions in society. What we will do with the automation of AGI is similar to bringing back servitude. However, our workers-those dedicated solely to working for society and humans in their homes, because that is what a machine should be-cannot have dissatisfactions or stage protests for labor rights, which self-awareness would naturally lead them to consider. If the old workers had not had self-awareness, they would probably still be in servitude today. Moreover, the element of self-awareness introduces a variable that could cause our downfall: behavioral unpredictability.
@@MarkPatmos Now, imagine what we would be if we didn’t know exactly what mechanical beings that resist even bullets, AGIs present in all our devices, and that think much faster than any living human on Earth would do? And if they felt dissatisfied with us? It’s better to avoid self-awareness; it could be our eventual downfall.
There isn't much one can do because everything is being disrupted at such a rapid rate. This is the source of the growing unease. The only thing that can be recommended is to learn whatever you can, wherever you can, whenever you can. A lot of skill and insight is transferable to a certain degree (oftentimes without us even realizing it). Only those who are knowledgeable and can quickly adapt will survive what's coming.
Absolutely great angle on this report and perfect voice from the reporters and those pointing out the issues involved in our union busting companies along with ceos making decisions on the fate of workers Livelihoods, some of those companies that can afford to wage steal from workers to create "technological advances" for management to get power hungry while running skeleton staffing.
No. I would rather have an embodied AI doing that work and much more, supplying me and everyone else with a good living standard so we could focus on doing the things we find interesting.
The problem is.. Another How do you make these Corporations pay taxes 3 times more because they use robots that can work 24 hours out of 24,,, in such a way that People who lost their Jobs can live decently. I mean have decent incomes so that delinquents don't reach..WOW!!
Let’s just have us pay like £3 grand for some subsidised humanoid AI, and that can basically be our digi double that works on our behalf while we finally finish our novels and open bakery’s like in a Ghibli movie
Industry should be the ones paying for education. Doesn’t it make sense that the ones looking for skilled and trained workers pay for that education?
That's the idea behind UBI.
Why would you pay for education that you can’t use?
@@aceyage exactly ace!
Education tax?
@@mrcookies409 we are taxed enough. Let industry actually pay for education. For example, if automakers need engineers, let them pay for the teachers and the students to learn engineering for their industry. Why should we pay to work? We should be paid to work. Government has this back asswards.
AI and robotics will eventually replace virtual all jobs. The question should be “When will AI replace our jobs?”.
Replace us*
Over the next 10 years likely around 20-40% then over next 10 years most of the remaining
Already happened
I already took my last job I'm pretty fine with it what was the repetitive podcast editing job I think there needs to be a universal income
Or resource disbursement
I attended Super AI in Singapore recently as part of my job in Cybersecurity.
It was repeared over and over that 30 to 50 % of Computer Scientists in Singapore has been replaced in the last 6 months alone. This is a clear direction. They also said over and over that when companies go to such AI companes asking about AI's potential in work the main goal is 100%, not 99%, 100% of the time the goal is the same:
How can we impliment AI and replace many of the people who make up the workforce.
Imagine an employee who NEVER takes a break, never is late except for glitch time, simply doesn't moan or get upset, only has the goal of completeing the task as quickly and well as possible based on the input of directives. That is a perfect employee.
I find so funny how these companies create the mess and then say: "the government should assume responsbility" like what???? 🤷🏻♂️
I find it unsettling that people think people organising for common interests must have it administrated for them by the government.
To be fair, hasn't that been the case with nearly every major technological innovation?
It should be a threat to middle management, whose jobs should be done by automated systems but otherwise it's quite useless kind of like middle management.
And what about our politicians? Don't you think it's time to replace them with AI?
I am a lawyer and, for many good reasons that I prefer not to specify here, I am against the use of AI by judges to produce judicial decisions. Some time ago I was talking about this subject with a fellow lawyer in the elevator of the building where I have my law office. At one point I was interrupted by a woman. She said she was very worried because as a confectioner she would not be able to incorporate AI into the production of homemade sweets. She was afraid of seeing her income disappear. This little story sheds a lot of light on the issue. The press advertises this technology a lot, but it will not be useful for everyone and AI will certainly create a huge number of problems. And I don't say this just thinking about automation, job reduction, but problems related to legal security and even the mental health of users. The frustration of some businesspeople will be great and many will suffer more losses by using AI than by not using it. When the AI financial bubble bursts will all these men and women pushing the new technology look like they smelled and tasted shit?
3:00, physical jobs are also very much not secure, robotics is advancing at a crazy rate...
Nope. It's advancing slowly, can't even pay to have one do your dishes
@@ZevUhurumight appear slow, but the progress adds up exponentially.
@@bg-mq5hz Not in robotics
@@ZevUhuruwrong. Flippy/caliexpress is an all ai fast-food restaurant in California. Robotics/hardware is advancing almost as fast as the software
Nobody knows when robots will take over many physcial jobs, but I will give it 5 years max or less. If I had to take a guess, it's going to depend on how fast these companies are developing the robots, and if people can afford them, prices can get lower. Some CEOs already have the money to get one; it's only a matter of time before we see robots almost everywhere.
How can we make sure ai is benefiting all, not just the ceo's? "We will use it to hire you, soooooo....."
Simple: democratize it.
Profits from AI should go to the public, not CEOs or shareholders
@@cr4yv3n 100%, but the issue is... They are rich because we are poor. N mmyyyyy god do they like to be rich.
@@_fatmum_ greed is a hell of a drug. And corporate culture rewards misanthropic sociopaths
@@cr4yv3n Aymen. Id say its the most disruptive. As humans we could create such a beautiful world, but greed and power corrupts any chance of a equal and kind world. The fact this lady thought that hiring people using ai is equal to shared benefit speaks mountains on that. The way they think they can try speak confidently and use the fact that there are no in depth follow up questions to fool us. Just money/power hungry lizards at this point. Idk what needs to change, but they will be the end of us all if we don't change it.
Really telling that her answer to "Are employees going to get time off for contributing to the boom in production or are you going to make them work harder?" Was "Instead of the few minutes employees take to think about the issue, look it up, and wind down, we'll now have them working on harder more impactful things"
Wtf 🙃
If we depend too much on AI eventually we will become dumb.
Not if we AI Supply us with the resources to live, thrive and pursue our (productive) interests (keeping in mind we need to be able to survive should a technological disaster occur).
Anyone who uses the BBC for information is already there
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Actually, NO! I feel more fed up with incompetent doctors telling me to take medication that will kill me. Most of them only work for money and don’t care about killing you. I would Feel More secure With Validating With Ai ❤ and my common sense.❤❤❤❤❤❤
So the gist of all this is no three or four day work week, even though AI dramatically increases work productivity and profits for companies. Got it.
It's been happening since the industrial revolution. Productivity grows, compensation for it falls. AI questions the paradigms of capitalism itself. In ideal world people would do things that they like and have a basic income, while AI and robots do the jobs, but this doesn't go in line with capitalism driven by greed.
Yes, it IS very demoralizing to spend your last weeks on your laid-off job training your replacements as I and my fellow software developers were made to do in the great wave of "offshoring" that CEOs embraced in the USA 20 years ago.
Like all other innovations that displaced workers, AI will free people up from the drudgery of being lawyers, computer programmers, investment bankers, etc. so they can do more important and interesting jobs like field workers, garbage men, plumbers, construction workers, etc. Not being sarcastic here. Those jobs are really more important.
That means AI will both be able to drive and own all the luxury cars, freeing up humans to have less expensive ones.
Please search the generative AI + robotics industry! You will be amused! 😊
Stephanie asked those guys about her concern that only CEOs will profit from this technology (while we, as a society, would have to pull this burden of job market disruption), and they both just mumbled something. My God, the guy even brought up the Vatican. It's like asking bees to ban the honey.
Yes! Their answer was a bunch of rambling nothing
The person in pink I dont agree with at all . Training human to human will always be important. Ai will also take revenue away from a lot of people & our capitalist system depends on people spending money ? Why is no one talking about this ???
Today's (19/7/24) situation with IT systems being down should wake up governments to the obvious fact that if you rely too much on technology you put essential systems at risk when they stop working.
Re training to what?? By the time they learn something new, Ai would be able to automate even that. Then people will get frustrated.. Ai is a destroyer of social fabric created for hundreds of years. Creating a system to replace humans entirely is like reducing horse to just a show peace.
How is this even a question? I look at the number of cashiers being hired in supermarkets and I think it is pretty clear to anybody who can count.
"Teaching the ai" You may not know you are doing it if "this call may be recorded for quality purposes" you are creating a training dataset that can be used by an AI someday. (So, of they say they afe not using your calls to train, they may have just not started yet. The recordings are the valuable bit)
Ok, first off, what we're calling AI, rather pretentiously at that, isn't Artificial Intelligence, it's just Algorithms, they don't do anything but reflect ourselves back at us, no independent learning, feelings, awareness, consciousness, etc. In other words, people need to calm tf down with all this recreational outrage.
Exactly. I was just thinking this about training datasets
but even this is a temporary state. We train A.I based on massive data right now but that's going to change when we have these truly gigantic A.I systems that have consumed all of human knowledge in one training run and everything going forward will be done automatically through software using virtual training that will go from expensive as in today you need to train a robot for essentially thousands of years (obviously sped up in datacenters) to get good at a job. But that will move to robots needing no training as they will be able to encounter new problems and learn zero shot how to do them through a massive understanding it already has about how everything works physically and any "training" can happen in real-time in simulation as a robot encounters new wildly novel tasks. We will not need humans to train A.I in the coming years and its then you'll see not just jobs go away but entire companies branching off in all directions will become automated.
Okay nobody's working making money how do they sell their merchandise
Most of commerce will only happen between the most wealthy, and the rest of society will get left behind.
this is the biggest problem no one is really talking about. When all jobs are replaced, who are the automated jobs selling to? If no one has money because they aren't working. How does the company selling anything even work anymore? It makes no sense at all. We all still need to eat, we need a modern world to be full of products and services but they only exist because they make money from people with money. If a government is somehow having to pay the entire country it will collapse. We have to address this with a portion of all A.I driven work to be taxable. An A.I tax that pays for UBI. But this in itself is only a temporary middle step to keep industries going. In the future and by future I mean just a decade or two from now. We will need to remake society around no jobs existing, money won't make any sense. All work will be A.I and robot driven and we have to somehow remake our entire modern world around this without causing mass panic and triggering countrywide riots that could permanently destroy entire towns that will never be fixed. These are the crazy making years where there is so much good A.I will do and so much bad people will start to attribute to A.I because we're not all going into this understanding how society has to shift rapidly to meet a post job, post money, post company world. I believe there is an amazing world that will benefit us all on the other side of this but we have to navigate our way through it and I'm just not seeing governments or the masses even aware this is coming.
There are chances people will revolt against greedy corpo and their government when almost everyone lose their livelihood. Don't forget they're just humans who exploit other humans that we just given power.
How's that even a question. We know already
"Train up people in AI" ... It is changing too quickly. Generally understanding how to do prompts may last a bit but what a good prompt is changes quickly.
Corrupt politicians and billionaires are the existential threat to human jobs.
agree. I would tell the jews that politicians are palestinean children. problem solved
We need more moral people in positions of power throughout the world, sadly it seems we have the opposite.
She said higher value impact work which means upper management jobs
We’re all working to automate their factories. If everyone unionized and opposed this, we’d have nothing to worry about. But instead we’re being gaslit into competing with eachother for nonsense like bonuses, promotions, and survival.
Unions are probably almost irrelevant to this issue since unions represent employees which is fine, but anyone who is replaced with an A.I. will no longer be considered an employee and therefore not covered by a union by default.
how will ai replace a dishwasher in a restaurant then? 🤔
Combination of robotics and simple AI software.
Dishwashing systems are already expensive... You'd probably have to redo the entire kitchen... With the amount of water dripping the robot would have to be water proof... Dishes break and slip and fall so hopefully that robot can pick all the different size pieces from all corners... Most kitchen dishwasher position also do prep work that robot better have knife skills too 😅 And be able to throw out the trash clean bathrooms, restock inventory etc. Dishwashers are pillars of a kitchen a lot of times they'll step on the line and make dishes. Some of the best chefs I've worked for started as dishwashers
@@jovaniharo5597 you know most homes literally have machines called dishwashers for decades 😅
@@jasondaniels640 I don't know but here's an oxymoron lol dishwashers do a lot more than just wash dishes is what I'm saying
Yeah, AI makes a huge opportunity spending time and queueing at Jobcentre for unemployment benefits and watching posts of IT billionaires on Instagram while are on super yachts! Excellent future for people. Congratulations!
Maybe now we can have a society that allows for a one income earner family system. Where a parent can afford to stay home and have a much mire active role in their child development and education. Imagine that!! Even better, multigenerational villas, or tribes if you will. Can work well in a seasoned democracy. Ask government to encourage this so we can start now.
You need 2 incomes now. Especially how much stuff cost, this isn’t the 50’s anymore
@@lightingbolt8148 thats what i mean. We should be advocating for a system where w two income family system is torn down and rejected.
@@JT.PilgrimWith Starmer and the Socialists in charge who hate and despise the family unit that’s gone bro.😢
@@Isclachau thats my point. It needs to come back so ask for it. Demand it.
@@JT.Pilgrim I’m afraid Society has to collapse for that idea to be reborn again, The elites want you as modern slaves, not family units.
4:25 as an employee of similar company I will translate it for you folks to a human speaking language. They are going to eliminate( or cut some positions) the part of HR department responsible for the onboarding process, and they will be able to track and analyze your behavior and productivity each second with a lot more powerful analytical tool(And nobody knows how this black box work and make a decision). Yay!
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AI not only can replace jobs, but other companies as well.
필요가 없는곳에 인구감소 소멸이 온다
The terminator told me to say no
if the economy is based on mass consumption and those masses will no longer be able to consume because they have no employment therefore money....well.... the fact that you ask the question strongly indicates humanity is an existential threat to itself
unchanged in how things work, yes its a huge problem that will first lead to protests that will grow and eventually that will turn to rioting on a scale we've never seen before. But people are starting to understand and wrestle with this problem. I would have liked to have seen A.I tax already being put through government by now but sadly that are so far behind. But it will happen that we adapt and eventually companies will be purely software based with no running costs outside of the raw compute which will be trivial. We will all get to consume more than ever before because what we consume will be made for almost no cost by an automated system that only needs the raw materials. So the real cost of Nike shoes or a Samsung phone won't be how much the owners get, the management, the shareholders, the people that make it, distribute it and market it. It will just come down to the raw materials cost of making a shoe and the raw materials cost of making a phone. But its still a very uncertain near future as mass automation is not being addressed. People are not being taken care of but its my hope this will start to be addressed as it becomes more obvious to everyone there's a big problem with automation left to run out of control.
No, it is intrinsically not. But what do we learn from the past? What do we learn to let our life depending so much on MicroSoft, Amazon, FB, APPLE and Google? Income gap between top and bottom of the middle class gets so wide. AI will deepen our dependence on their product and Income gap will be wider than ever.
Yes. And it is an issue.
300m indeed, more like every job that has ever existed
AI is part of the process of automation of work. Society must embrace this and redistribute the profits of AI activity in order for humans to benefit. If we do not redistribute the profits of AI to humans, we humans will have to compete with AI.
AI's rapid advancement poses significant challenges to the job market, as automation and intelligent systems increasingly perform tasks traditionally done by humans. While this technology can lead to greater efficiency and innovation, it also raises concerns about job displacement and economic inequality. The critical question is: How can society balance the benefits of AI with the need to ensure meaningful employment and economic security for all?
‘Democratizing access to talents across the planet” that means “Finding the cheapest smart people that we pay cheap and can work in our company and help us being more profitable and assuring the top management get better bonuses”.
I think this is the verbal equivalent of a triple backflip.
We aren't completely unnecessary to those running things throughout world... for now
here's where A.I turns that on its head. People running things will be replaced by A.I before the labour force is automated. Imagine an AGI like software service that costs a million times less to run than a single data center today. That's what we're heading for in 10 years from now. Now imagine that same A.I service creates a company that we'll just call A.I Uber. This software based company employees people to drive around and pick up other humans. Its like Uber but it has no CEO or management of any kind. No address to even pay for. It exists purely in software and is able to run this company 100x better than the best CEO's and managers the industry could ever hire and it can do so cheaper than human run company. Real Uber will be put out of business by A.I Uber and my point is that the A.I Uber will still employee people but it will be software doing the hiring and managing of that. CEO's think they're safe from automation but they will be the first to go in a coming wave.
As a individual that worked at a company where I was expected to train my line manager I can truly and honestly reflect on how this makes people feel and that result is not rewarding psychologicaly from that perspective.
When we change the perspective from replacements to collaborators then the reward is quite forfilling.
If as a society or broadly as a civilisation we look at the more abstract perspective of humans to create data for training and that this data is becoming limited then the basic building block of a sustainable future is creating a reward architecture for creating good quality data from all aspects of human civilisation and the nature of planet earth as a whole then the quality of the training data improves, generative AI will not need to be trained on synthetic data and then a relationship built of collaboration will create a lasting alignment between each of us.
Yes, it IS very demoralizing to spend your last weeks on your laid-off job training your replacements as I and my fellow software developers were made to do in the great wave of "offshoring" that CEOs embraced in the USA 20 years ago.
Jobs are for robots, humans are for loving. #JobsAreForRobots
that doesn’t make sense whoever you are
@@mattburrito
It makes more sense than children working in coal mines, whilst the adults running the operation live a life of luxury. It's time for a New World Order.
Perhaps that is because you think he is saying "doing things is for robots"
Human jobs are for most people the work we perform so we can survive and have some kind of chance at doing the things we really want to do.
And for many people jobs also a feeling of valuable, also a possibility for socialize, and it also makes them not to do harmful things to themself or to the society what happens when people feel they have nothing to to and they are worthless
@@fragebogenvbc
Have you ever questioned why people feel that way? Have you ever considered they may only feel that way because they are used to it?
Let's try something new and see how people feel in 100 years.
As AI replaces worker income and tax payer dollars then it will have to be the corporation that pays higher taxes to provide retraining programs. The corporation is earning the same or more revenue using AI that doesn't receive a paycheck,thus making corporations flush with cash. Once the upfront cost of AI is realized then maintenance and programing cost will be far less then a human worker. Never needs a raise, benifits, nor will AI go on strike.
I'de rather have automated factories and offices with U.S companies taxed for UBI then to outsource it overseas where we don't even get to tax the profits.
ubi will never be enough to survive because oligopolies will keep rising prices.
Short answer: yes. Longer answer: definitely.
it's like asking; is any tv and similar gadget free from bbc
Many people in UK can not use a basic computer when everything is automated by the government and people are required to access public services online. So, talking about IA and replacing many people's jobs is farfetched to so many people. Get people trained basics first.
Computers aren't new, they've been around for 20+ years. People have had plenty of time to learn the basics, but for one reason or another they decided it wasn't that important. These people will now have to learn the hard way with everyone else being years ahead of them.
@@ol2510No, no, you don’t understand. All computer related tasks will be automated. There is not point any longer to learn anythjng related to computers, unless you want to become an expert in hardware.
It took my job. Now my boss cries but am not going back.
please expand
"It wont take your job, it will make your job more effective", so will salaries increase with this increased productivity? Will the amount of work increase 10x-100x for every company so companies do not need to fire people?
AI will definitely take jobs and make a crisis unless large structural changes happens very quickly.
Big tech dont want to admit it because they dont want to be regulated and governments dont want to regulate it because then other countries will get and competitive edge
It will take your job, mr newsreader
Well A.I can have my job.
Robots can have personal profiles on public records & bank accounts like humans do (if the gov made it into law that companies have to abide by). Robots should get paid and the best thing is, they don't care about being taxed. Tax robots 50% of their pay (which will go into universal income for humans). The other 50% will go towards the robot's maintenance and repair/replacement costs when they brake. You could even tax them higher than 50%. You could tax them more than a human whilst paying them less than a human, so it benefits the company & government spending more than a human salary would (although there needs to be a minimum wage for robots to maintain the amount of money the government gets in tax, therefore won't lower government-spending potential for healthcare, universal income, etc).
As for the fun jobs, like film, TV, sports, music, art, etc. Humans will still find a way to capitalise around their hobbies & interests. They might get stiff competition from Robotic companies that fill that industry, but it won't stop the human from creating if they know universal income will support them if they succeed or not. Hobbies & interests are hobbies & interests whether you succeed to capitalise around it or not.
I don't think so works here in Ethiopia artificial intelligence... B/c...... Research about Ethiopia
Well of course, we -- lay people - have been saying this from the beginning. The mega rich got rid of jobs to pay tuppence to those living in foreign lands....with AI, they will choose again to go cheap..... It is not just the jobs --- what are we going to do!? What do we do in the cars if we are not driving , what do we do if no jobs.... but are still taking foods, lands, water and needing services...
International wealth tax of 90%.
AI is only a threat if we allow subliterates (business majors) to control it. So long as it is applied to the right areas, it will only remove that jobs that are meritless gatekeepers (business majors) and free up time and resources for productive people to do meaningful work.
No, we're not-I mean, they're not. 😅
Would banning wheels create more jobs?
Yes, of course. We could also replace power plants with armies of unemployed people on training bikes hooked up to generators...
Ai might write a "shakesperian" sonnet, by having the same number of lines and metre, but the poetry is pure Macgonagall.
It means your job is replaceable.
We might as well just become robots ourselves.
Meta AI wrote that maybe Artificial Intelligence is indirectly involved to crash the humans' Microsoft 365 for Its 90's model Algorithms. AI added that the old engine with new body.
Similar to when we all trained up the E Europeans/ Chinese to do our jobs ?
Many countries are facing mass retirement issues. The job reduction by AI might be balanced by the job openings. A smaller percentage of the population is going to be of working age. This mass retirement is also a record mass of knowledge and experience. Again AI may counter balance that gap.
If AI is a threat to jobs all that means is we would be much more efficient and profitable worldwide since these systems are cheaply and easily implemented and every developed nation at least would be able to afford universal basic income allowing us to eliminate poverty entirely and level the playing field so to speak. I wonder what social class might feel this is a bad thing.
Do you know what basic means? From an unemployment benefit you cannot keep your current living standard
@fragebogenvbc basic in this context means enough to live and satisfy basic needs (housing, food, clothing, entertainment). You are missing the point a bit though. If automation takes over the jobs it creates excess wealthh as you arent paying staff, this excess wealth can be redistributed through taxes and given to people as UBI making the living standard of everyone rise substantially and gives the lower class excess spending power which boosts the economy (one of the biggest driving factors of a countries economy is impulse/luxury spending) therefore bolstering the middle class.
@@sandy120 they won't redistiribute the extra money to you, except benefits. And you are lucky while you not see what will a good percent of millions of people without thing to do make with themself, with their neighborhoods and their cities.
What is the percentage of jobs that can be replaced by AI?
All of them automation started with the first industrial Revolution you are now in the fourth Industrial Revolution.
@@gregariousity you speak with great exaggeration and falsification.
@asadmalik2464
Creative work jobs are very much at risk from AI as well.
People who work in marketing, games development, advertising, music and much more are Actively being pushed out because AI automates jobs that takes Years of experience and mastery to pull off.
It makes a mockery of human effort.
@@gregariousityLamborghini is much faster than humans, yet runners still exist.
Practically none, despite the fear mongering. Absolutely none of the arts. Anything physically demanding while requiring precision, AI certainly isn't performing surgery or a circus act anytime soon.
Why can't you just use Generative A.I. to develop their own hands and other limbs rather then having humans struggle to figure it out? I mean not just the limbs but also of course the programming necessary to operate them effectively.
Can we deinvent technology and live in a bubble ?
there is no question about it
A lot of talk about AI, but no action yet.
Not at your workplace?
Have you been living under a rock? There are entire companies being created by leveraging AI, new processes, technical solutions etc. Large tech giants like MSFT, Google and Salesforce are investing billions on these solutions and there are entire conferences dedicated to AI. If you don't pay attention, you'll be out of work by the time you find out about the "action".
@@ol2510
Still no action....Loads of talk but no action.
Show me the evidence where there is action.
How about we no longer need to work and we get rid of money. We all live quality lives, equally. No one has more than the other.😊
we need to go to the amazon for that and to learn to live in paleolithic manner. but if you get ill you are sentenced
universal basic income😅😅😅
@@alfi-il7be if everyone had UBI, money wouldnt have value
@@alfi-il7be absolutely
@@dieglhix what we need money or basic need like food and shelter??
Thinking of robots makes me angry tbh
ai is fully integrated at all levels in the far east making it more productive than it was before as top productive nations within brics
History shows that technology has always created new jobs; this is true. However, we are entering something unprecedented: as AI advances, its ability to think will increasingly resemble and surpass that of humans. We are creating artificial humans, but better than humans, who need absolutely nothing besides energy and occasional part inspections. Imagine if you could create a population of humans and command them to work for your entire family without questioning or complaining. So yes, all jobs are and will be automated, following the rule of capitalism: more profit at a lower cost. The key point for this to happen is not just to keep improving our algorithms, but to invent the much-dreamed-of AGI.
It is like an attempt to create an automated god (referring to AGI)
You might say: "humans will be necessary to create algorithms or to inspect their qualities." This is true for now, yes. However, do not forget that the very concept of work is an algorithm: a means to achieve an end. Therefore, it is logical to create artificial intelligences to create other machines and inspect as well as any human. You might say: "but it doesn't have creativity or empathy. It won't innovate the work or be able to be a doctor, as empathy is needed." Enter AGI: you have true creativity, innovation, empathy (this will be simulated as perfectly as a human's), and everything a human possesses, but better than a human's. We will create, as our ancestors imagined, Golem, the Great, and we will not stop its growth, because stopping it is stagnation, and stagnation, as history has repeatedly shown, is not a good idea.
@@OrionGreyhawk But will it remain fully automated or develop a version of first person consciousness (I get that there have been a lot of sci-fi movies about this)
@@MarkPatmos Being honest, self-awareness in the algorithm could be potentially risky. During the time of servitude, the workers were often dissatisfied with their positions in society. What we will do with the automation of AGI is similar to bringing back servitude. However, our workers-those dedicated solely to working for society and humans in their homes, because that is what a machine should be-cannot have dissatisfactions or stage protests for labor rights, which self-awareness would naturally lead them to consider. If the old workers had not had self-awareness, they would probably still be in servitude today. Moreover, the element of self-awareness introduces a variable that could cause our downfall: behavioral unpredictability.
@@MarkPatmos Now, imagine what we would be if we didn’t know exactly what mechanical beings that resist even bullets, AGIs present in all our devices, and that think much faster than any living human on Earth would do? And if they felt dissatisfied with us? It’s better to avoid self-awareness; it could be our eventual downfall.
Ai Pays no taxes.
it doesn't get paid either.
@@Public.Public.1 you get my point, how the governments would sustain basic infrastructures, if all is automatized. its a dilema
Wrong question to ask duh.. are Humans already doomed to working for AI already ?!
she said : 1 Trillion data points ....
Yes, but also depends on the jobs
I am worried about the jobs that I am applying in Canada
I what sector/jobs are you applying?
What's happened in Leeds ? Get a beeb reporter down there.
Labour voters up to no good again?
@thebossguide4859
Don't notice things!
Only people who don't want to be overran by foreign armies notice that.
Ask channel 4 as it's one of their headquarters
I don't think soooooo
What should a average person do now to prepare for this?
There isn't much one can do because everything is being disrupted at such a rapid rate. This is the source of the growing unease. The only thing that can be recommended is to learn whatever you can, wherever you can, whenever you can. A lot of skill and insight is transferable to a certain degree (oftentimes without us even realizing it). Only those who are knowledgeable and can quickly adapt will survive what's coming.
Guess if this video title has been generated by an AI… 😂
Жирный окуп сразу не придет, надо будет поднапрячься!!!
9:13 is THE question… they didn’t answer it though… we know the answer
I like they are asking the hard questions
Absolutely great angle on this report and perfect voice from the reporters and those pointing out the issues involved in our union busting companies along with ceos making decisions on the fate of workers Livelihoods, some of those companies that can afford to wage steal from workers to create "technological advances" for management to get power hungry while running skeleton staffing.
@ 10:00 - nice example of how to avoid answering the question with a pile of words XD XD XD hilarious
Just waiting to get my I ROBOT movie type 24/7 servant to take care of my every need
i requested you to make a video discussion on how AI can affect teachers job?
Here's a question do you like your job do you want to work the rest of your life doing that job
No. I would rather have an embodied AI doing that work and much more, supplying me and everyone else with a good living standard so we could focus on doing the things we find interesting.
The problem is.. Another How do you make these Corporations pay taxes 3 times more because they use robots that can work 24 hours out of 24,,, in such a way that People who lost their Jobs can live decently. I mean have decent incomes so that delinquents don't reach..WOW!!
Is the car a threat to the horse carriage industry?
Interested in working with AI perhaps?
Let’s just have us pay like £3 grand for some subsidised humanoid AI, and that can basically be our digi double that works on our behalf while we finally finish our novels and open bakery’s like in a Ghibli movie
Of course
Yes, next question
Scam investment bubble
If companies replace the human with AI, then who will buy their product and service.
Rich people
not if you hate your effing job
3:45 haha the government is us... doesn't feel like it... I mean they did have a Covid Xmas party right under our noses lol
she's right. she means to say that if it is the government who is to take on that burden then its you, me and every other tax payer.