Skitechnique: What is the perfect short turn?

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  • @christophermclean3921
    @christophermclean3921 4 роки тому +5

    I’m an intermediate skier. No double blacks. These videos help me a lot. Thank you!

  • @ewallt
    @ewallt 3 роки тому +5

    A lot of good information in a short video. The progression in the beginning was very nice to methodically move up in difficulty.

    • @JB91710
      @JB91710 2 роки тому

      He didn't Teach you how to do any of that good information. He just talked.

  • @ziggymatuszewski2803
    @ziggymatuszewski2803 4 роки тому

    Simplest and smartest way of explaining the whole concept of turning on skis. No technical therms and easy to understand language.... that is how all instructors should be teaching.... I wish.

    • @JB91710
      @JB91710 2 роки тому +1

      And yet, he Didn't TEACH you how to do what he talked about. All he did is use plain words to tell you nothing. All package and no contents.

  • @trouts4444
    @trouts4444 5 років тому +7

    Nicely done. Short, good info, no stupid music, clear explanations, great photography. Put that all together and you get what it is, an excellent video short turn(s).

    • @JB91710
      @JB91710 4 роки тому

      And yet, He taught absolutely NOTHING! All he did is Talk. Watch it again. Did he teach you how to do Any of the things he Talked about? "Do It" and showing it isn't teaching.

    • @JB91710
      @JB91710 4 роки тому

      David. Read my comment below.

    • @ArcFixer
      @ArcFixer 4 роки тому +2

      What did you expect? Some lame ski school drills? The skiing is excellent and is a lesson unto itself. And the talk was spot on. If you need more than that, give up skiing.

    • @JB91710
      @JB91710 4 роки тому

      @@ArcFixer I started teaching 51 years ago and I have been a Thinker for 48 of those years. He didn't even Teach you how to do it the wrong way! He didn't even demonstrate well. Read my comment below. There is Mediocre and their is Quality in everything. You, have chosen mediocrity. Now try to Understand and Learn the right way to ski. ua-cam.com/video/AHH3hpi3X8A/v-deo.html

    • @ArcFixer
      @ArcFixer 4 роки тому

      @@JB91710 We'll start with the obvious. You don't have a clue how I ski. I moved to the Utah's Wasatch Mountains to be a ski bum in 1983, and skied 7 days a week for three seasons on alpine gear before I switched to telemark gear in 1986. I skied over 500 days in a single leather boot before Black Diamond asked me to be a test pilot for their new all plastic telemark boot. In 1989 I declined an offer to join the US National Telemark Team as a bump skier. Skiing at a high level in a single leather boot and a free heel gave me the opportunity to feel and learn things that people like you who ski on alpine gear can't even begin to imagine. I ski with a variety of techniques that are not available to alpine skiers. But I usually ski groomers parallel, & can carve it up no problem. And when I put on alpine boots, it's like shooting fish in a barrel.
      As for you, you're a typical ski instructor. Full of himself and full of shit. The video you posted was lame. Half of it was a lift ride, and the skiing was an underwhelming demonstration of mediocrity. About what I expected from you.
      If you want to see how I ski, click here. Watch closely and you might learn something. When you learn to shred like this, get back to me.
      ua-cam.com/video/yXVp-Zv4r2A/v-deo.html

  • @twohouses2259
    @twohouses2259 5 років тому +11

    A brilliant clarification on how to bake the perfect cake. All the ingredients are there. Eggs/Flour/Sugar. You provide a master chefs recipe on how to achieve an award winning cake, with the takeaway that if a person can master the ingredients, then the perfect cake is attainable. No one ingredient will suffice. Know each one and how it creates the perfect blend to create a masterpiece.
    But it will be each chefs masterpiece. Blended to suit their style of cooking...
    As a surfer who has taken to skiing like a duck to water, I see too many so called experts, telling people how to make perfect turns. Its either this way, or that way, or too much pressure, or your pole plants are too late/early or the moon isn’t right etc etc.
    Everyone is different. Bodies and legs are different. The variables are so vast as to make such a thing as a perfect turn in reality - a search for the elusive Unicorn. The perfect turn is - the one that gets someone down the hill, yelling and hooting and feeling like a million dollars. To the beginner or even the intermediate who has an A-Frame turn yet just skied a perfect run - to them it was perfect.
    Great video. It reminds me of Star Treks villains - The Borg.
    Don’t be part of the Collective. Attain the knowledge from the Collective - but think outside the Box. Thats where you will find the perfect turn.
    Cheers!

    • @JB91710
      @JB91710 4 роки тому

      And yet, He taught absolutely NOTHING! All he did is Talk. Watch it again. Did he teach you how to do Any of the things he Talked about? "Do It" and showing it isn't teaching. You may be a master chef but you have no clue what ski teaching Really is.

  • @NomusTube
    @NomusTube 5 років тому +11

    Well spoken. I'm impressed. Thank you for making this video, in English.

  • @expatinasia
    @expatinasia 5 років тому +151

    Gordon Ramsay has really gotten himself in shape.

    • @GrumpyOldMan9
      @GrumpyOldMan9 5 років тому +2

      Robby Naish is a better match

    • @davidcai4473
      @davidcai4473 3 роки тому +2

      Omg that’s what I thought. Lol

    • @jerrysrandomadventurez
      @jerrysrandomadventurez 3 роки тому

      He does look like Gordan Ramsay. This is a good video. Very informative.

  • @paulwhetstone0473
    @paulwhetstone0473 Рік тому

    Great concise tutorial on short turns.

  • @ziggymatuszewski2803
    @ziggymatuszewski2803 4 роки тому +1

    And all I need now is as simple as this video explanation of skiing crud and bumps, please!!!!!

  • @traceypurcell2687
    @traceypurcell2687 5 років тому +2

    Thanks Richard great explanation of turns. My husband explains these techniques to a lot of skiers.

  • @morninboy
    @morninboy 3 роки тому +4

    Yes there is a perfect turn and there are many different kinds of them. Good skiers know them because they experience them often and they are breath taking. Not like the usual turns. Perfect rhythm, perfect balance, effortless yet strong and powerful. They can come in any of the racing disciplines, on hard pack, perfect groomers, through the moguls and in deep powder. Sometimes they can be like an out of body experience. Skiing is the best!

  • @user-vc7bo4zy3l
    @user-vc7bo4zy3l 5 років тому +2

    Your short turn looked amazing.

  • @bobscu
    @bobscu 5 років тому +2

    Really Really good!! Clear expanation that will help almost everyone..

    • @JB91710
      @JB91710 4 роки тому

      And yet, He taught absolutely NOTHING! All he did is Talk. Watch it again. Did he teach you how to do Any of the things he Talked about? "Do It" and showing it isn't teaching.

  • @jamesdunn9714
    @jamesdunn9714 5 років тому

    Well thought out and well presented video. I agree with all your points and your conclusions.

    • @JB91710
      @JB91710 4 роки тому

      You would! He taught absolutely NOTHING! All he did is Talk. Watch it again. Did he teach you how to do Any of the things he Talked about? "Do It" and showing it isn't teaching.

  • @The.Ordinary.People
    @The.Ordinary.People 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks for sharingthe great concept.

  • @lucasbs3267
    @lucasbs3267 4 роки тому +1

    Great explanation, thanks!

    • @JB91710
      @JB91710 2 роки тому

      Nothing was explained. He just talked.

  • @jiros00
    @jiros00 4 роки тому +1

    Nice skiing. There are many skills that have been lost since carving became mainstream over the last couple of decades. You don't see so many people able to ski short turns gracefully like that (with correct upper body posture).

  • @749217
    @749217 5 років тому +1

    Very clear explain and great help for skiing. Thx

  • @14anjuli
    @14anjuli 5 років тому +9

    Perfect explanation

    • @JB91710
      @JB91710 4 роки тому

      And yet, He taught absolutely NOTHING! All he did is Talk. Watch it again. Did he teach you how to do Any of the things he Talked about? "Do It" and showing it isn't teaching.

    • @dj_617
      @dj_617 4 роки тому +1

      JB91710 and there he is again: to man who cannot make a single high performance turn by himself, criticizing others. What a pathetic child you are.

  • @GeroLubovnik
    @GeroLubovnik 4 роки тому

    Pretty good video. The one exclusion that I think bears focusing on is the INSIDE ski. It cannot be overlooked because it has a direct relationship to upper/lower body separation... something that many overlook or fail to understand how it connects to other movements and skiing in general.

    • @JB91710
      @JB91710 2 роки тому +1

      What? The inside ski has no bearing on any part of a turn. It has no directional control whatsoever. It's on and in the snow but the outside ski controls all of the turn. That comes from doing it for 57 years and teaching it for 53. These people who emphasis skiing with their feet apart and just "Tipping" their knees to the side are doing the industry a disservice.

  • @MICHAELZHANGCA
    @MICHAELZHANGCA 5 років тому

    Great vid. Clear. Good form. Nice editing. Greetings from Canada!

  • @robertbotta6536
    @robertbotta6536 4 роки тому +1

    Very good. Thank you.

  • @amundekroll7490
    @amundekroll7490 Рік тому

    You should avoid breaking while changing direction Let the direction of travel give you the speed you want.

  • @davidgordon1994
    @davidgordon1994 5 років тому +2

    Excellent !

  • @williamspostoronnim9845
    @williamspostoronnim9845 2 роки тому

    Perfectly!

  • @Soul-Nomad2020
    @Soul-Nomad2020 Рік тому

    when we are turning what is the pressing weight between inner leg and outer leg each?

  • @adonistopofmen2571
    @adonistopofmen2571 2 роки тому

    Great ...

  • @ivokoimecs
    @ivokoimecs 4 роки тому

    Nice! ... 😀👍

  • @TheBarts27
    @TheBarts27 4 роки тому

    What ski's are being used for the short turns? What kind of ski's would you recommend to learn this turns on a red and black piste? Thanks

  • @jeanfrancois6780
    @jeanfrancois6780 3 роки тому

    Question: It's not good to do any back seat on short turns right? Thanks!

  • @Kazzzzzo
    @Kazzzzzo 5 років тому

    I carve perfectly fine on medium steep slope, but when there is greater steep, I struggle. I have 17 meter radius btw.

    • @JB91710
      @JB91710 4 роки тому

      Visualize this. You are standing between two barstools. You want to rest a cheek on one Barstool. Take your weight off your Right foot, lift your Right cheek and slide it over to the edge of the Right barstool. By lifting you cheek you are keeping your upper body vertical and resting on the edge of the stool creates a huge leg angle. There's a brake pedal on that hip. The harder you press it the more the ski will bend, the more it will turn and the slower you will go.

  • @vladoopalka4483
    @vladoopalka4483 5 років тому

    Please, what radius of skis or what parameters of skis I have to have, if I want to do short turn carving movements ? Thank for your answer.

    • @SamSoMite421
      @SamSoMite421 4 роки тому

      You want slalom specific skis. Height is ~165 CM & ~65 underfoot. Lot's of great choices out there.

  • @PavPD
    @PavPD 5 років тому

    Thank you for the information! Seems you have a nice content on your channel.it would be great if you can re-create your other vids in English

    • @skicentrumheemskerk
      @skicentrumheemskerk  5 років тому +1

      Thanks. We are definitely considering making more content in English or subtitling in English
      .

    • @JB91710
      @JB91710 4 роки тому

      And yet, He taught absolutely NOTHING! All he did is Talk. Watch it again. Did he teach you how to do Any of the things he Talked about? "Do It" and showing it isn't teaching.

  • @HadrienLBB
    @HadrienLBB 5 років тому

    Thanks for the video!!
    Fyi the word "vary" is pronounced like var"ee" not like var"ai"

  • @GrumpyOldMan9
    @GrumpyOldMan9 5 років тому

    Oeps, de uitspraak van "to vary" is niet "to verai" maar "to verie". Wel geweldig skiën.

    • @l.9648
      @l.9648 4 роки тому

      Zielig

  • @camgreer
    @camgreer 5 років тому

    A perfect turn? It doesn't exist in the real world, it's only an ideal that we can shoot for. But we can get close to perfection. The carved turn is the basis of it. Think about high divers. They get a good score when they not only have great form on the way down, but leave as small of a splash as possible, in other words, as clean an entry into the water as possible. A great carved turn is like that, in that it tosses up the least amount of snow dust on the turn, indicating a very small amount of skid. I just love making easy carved turns on some corduroy, rolling my ankles over and just silently moving from edge to edge. When I feel like accelerating, I just do some deep knee bends and kick it into gear. Skiing on Head WCR i.GS boards or on my i.Titans ensures some great snap out of the turn to initiate the next, and off they go. Pure carving as an ideal is a great thing to shoot for, because it feels great, it's stable, it's quiet, it's the fastest way down, it doesn't create moguls, it indicates control, and the esthetics are unbeatable.

    • @JB91710
      @JB91710 2 роки тому

      Let me correct something you said. "rolling my ankles over and just silently moving from edge to edge." What you actually do is change your balance from your downhill to your uphill foot, the end result would be your ankles rolling over because during the weight change, you lose that balance before it is picked up on your uphill/outside/downhill foot. You can't Just roll the ankles over or your weight won't be in the correct place to be balanced on that outside ski.

    • @puregsr
      @puregsr Рік тому

      Although how do you control your speed? I find myself just accelerate out of control if I do short carved turn down an extremely steep slope.

  • @hartzland7658
    @hartzland7658 4 роки тому

    And I suppose it helps to be built like Thor!

    • @JB91710
      @JB91710 2 роки тому

      Absolutely not. You need to be in basic good shape and be able to balance mostly on one foot after the other while you allow the skis to make turns down the hill. Skiing is incredibly easy to understand and do, with the right teacher and practice.

  • @bobcoggin4618
    @bobcoggin4618 5 років тому

    Brill 👍🏻

  • @31acruz
    @31acruz 4 роки тому

    Yeah sure, but you can do that because you have "bevel" on your skis. This makes it possible.

  • @MS-ef1gy
    @MS-ef1gy 5 років тому

    In slow speed mode looks like you have a habit of lifting your inside ski in changing weight to your outside ski a good amount of time...is this a good thing to do? if so why? thanks much...

    • @JB91710
      @JB91710 5 років тому +6

      Along with keeping your upper body quite, making sure you take your weight OFF the previous turning ski, is critical to making technically correct turns. Lifting the ski is a physical tool you can use to assure you are doing that. As long as you are consciously thinking of unweight the ski, you don't have to lift it.

    • @skicentrumheemskerk
      @skicentrumheemskerk  5 років тому +1

      Thank you for your question. The moment I finish the ski with which I finished the turn, I am sure that 100% of my weight is on the correct ski. It is a rough movement that is also applied at a lower level at Skicentrum Heemskerk. That is no different from the final form, whereby I also aim for 100% pressure change, but prefer to keep contact with the snow. However, this requires more skill in balance. So for me it is a functional movement that fits perfectly at this lower level.

    • @stevenbudnick1252
      @stevenbudnick1252 4 роки тому +1

      @@JB91710 I thought lifting the ski off the snow was old school. Great Video and narration

    • @JB91710
      @JB91710 4 роки тому

      @@stevenbudnick1252 This was not great narration. He didn't Say Anything. 51 years teaching and being a THINKER and not a FOLLOWER tells me that. It sounded good to your ear but that's it. Ever hear of double-talking? That's pretty much what this was. He just said a bunch of words on video and fed it to you and you are buying it. As I said, when you get off your downhill foot to start the next turn, you can lift the foot occasionally to make sure you are off it. By lifting it you are leaning your upper body off it so it is in the right position for balance on the new turning ski.

    • @stevenbudnick1252
      @stevenbudnick1252 4 роки тому

      @@JB91710 for advanced to expert skiers, I feel it was fine. However, the lifting of the ski invalidates some of his technique from what I know. (I am not a coach) My skihouse has 5 coaches and we talk . Will ask them to watch this. Thanks for your reply, got me thinking

  • @gerylagrande
    @gerylagrande 5 років тому

    Nice footwork! But please work on your arm position and pole plant

    • @hinmatow
      @hinmatow 4 роки тому +1

      Your comment has not much interest if you don't explain what in his arm position and pole plant are wrong in your opinion.

  • @JB91710
    @JB91710 3 роки тому +1

    All of you loved this video but he didn't Teach you how to do any of the things he talked about.
    0:05 What he does here is 2021 Technically Correct ski turns but nowhere in this video does he teach you how to make this happen. Nobody does because they don't understand what they do to make this happen. All the worlds instructors See and Feel is pushing, shoving, twisting and Masking the skis change direction. They can't comprehend that skis are designed to turn themselves when you position your upper body and change your foot balance. That's the HINT! Play that part in slow motion and look for it!
    0:44 This isn't skiing. This is bouncing and pushing his skis. Might as well be standing on 2x4s. Rhythm comes from changing your weight as the skis pass under you.
    0:55 Push, Bounce. Push, Bounce. Push, Bounce.
    1:00 How and Why will you get more weight on the tip of your skis?
    1:12 How and Why will you carve more?
    1:18 What he does here is Not what he was doing before. Before we was doing something which is Not skiing to make it look like skiing. There was no teaching there or here.
    1:25 Your skis will never see the fall line unless you change your weight and allow the skis to roll over onto the edges. In other words, there will be no turn without you balancing on the arch of you uphill ski.
    1:30 You don't PUT a lot of energy on your outside ski. A lot of pressure builds up in your legs when you put your body into the fall line at the start of the turn because you have drastically changed your leg angle as the skis go out from under you which sets the skis on a high edge which allows them to bend more and turn sharper which creates a braking action as your body falls down the hill and the skis arrest that fall. You see? That is teaching not Just talking!
    1:40 You are Not rebounding anything anywhere. As the skis carve a turn, your upper body is going with them until you want to start the next turn. At that point you stop your upper body and send it down the hill. You get off your downhill foot, the leg angle changes, the skis roll over and turn. You just stand there and balance on the outside arch.
    2:00 "If my width is more apart, I am more able to carve the skis." No! You are more able to carve the skis by pushing your hip into the turn, which angles your legs more and getting off your downhill foot. Pulling you knee up so your boot is out of the way. You can do that with your boots touching.
    2:08 YOU, do NOT turn your ski. You position your body and change your weight and the ski turns your feet while you balance on them. Do YOU turn your car when you turn the steering wheel or does the steering mechanism do it?
    2:30 You absolutely do Not have to ski like that with Shaped skis that are designed to turn Easy! That is Heel Thrusting, not allowing the tips of the ski to turn like the front tires of your car. Into the turn.
    2:45 Here he is skiing correctly and allowing the skis to make the turn as he keeps his body in the fall line. he just isn't Teaching you how to do it. Put this part on slow motion and look for everything I have told you.
    2:56 This is beyond ridiculous and worthless.
    3:00 This is not an answer to anything. It's just talking. Doing that Stuff won't get you anywhere let alone to a perfect turn.
    And you guys Loved him! You really need to Listen and Think and use your own common Sense and logic and have the nerve to say, WHAT DID YOU SAY?

    • @languagetruthandlogic3556
      @languagetruthandlogic3556 3 роки тому

      A lot of good fundamental points made here. We all have 'ghosts of technique from the past' which can lead to a 'Chinese whispers' approach, where old ideas, inappropriate ideas still persist in the instructor speak of today. Often the instructor thinks he is performing a technique when in fact he is doing something else. This results in bewildering confusion for the student skier.

    • @JB91710
      @JB91710 3 роки тому +1

      @@languagetruthandlogic3556 Finally! An intelligent person replays. Unfortunately, it goes farther than that. Today's instructors just don't understand how to communicate what they can do. They use big words to make it sound like they know what they are talking about, but they clearly don't.

    • @languagetruthandlogic3556
      @languagetruthandlogic3556 3 роки тому

      @@JB91710 I agree. The ski school / governing bodies etc instructor training programs are usually a reflection of the beliefs and attitudes of the ceo/managers etc whether they are right or wrong - they push 'their way.' Their knowledge of the range of approaches - old and new is very limited. Yes, there is a fashion to use technical vocabulary which few people really understand and most don't know how to teach and develop these ideas. In several years of 'refresher courses' I have never heard the word 'balance' used or explained in its relevance to skiing. Posture and stance are also very neglected ideas. The trouble is, students think that anyone who can ski fast and make it look good must be good instructors and coaches!
      Stay safe and enjoy the coming season.

    • @JB91710
      @JB91710 3 роки тому +1

      @@languagetruthandlogic3556 Go back and read my edit of the original comment at 0:05. It is wonderful to finally converse with an intelligent thinker instead of a hero worshipping follower. You are 100% correct in your last comment. People create teaching methods based on what they see and feel, Not, what they Think! Skiing is the exact opposite of that so they have no idea how to explain it to someone. They say "You think of skiing from your feet up." That is 100% wrong. You only think of your feet as an information sending devise to monitor the amount of grip your upper body position and forward and aft knee bending has created in your skis through edging and bending. They teach the end result and call it skiing.
      Here is a dead on example of how they teach carved turns. Look at a Giant Slalom racer in the middle of a turn. (I could have said Apex but that needs an explanation for a lot of people. "Middle of a turn", doesn't.). It "Looks Like" their feet are far apart but in reality their LEGS are close together. They have to be to get that inside leg out of the way so the outside leg can lay down low for the ski to get on it's side as much as possible for maximum ski bending. (How do you lay your leg down low? Upper body positioning!!!) It looks like the feet are apart but in reality, the inside foot is Raised up by pulling the knee up. The feet Are far apart but not in relation to the other leg. If they consciously think about separating their feet and using that ski to help the turn, they will be constantly catching the inside edge of the inside ski because it will get too much bite as it will be easier to lose balance and over weight it.
      Skiing is amazingly Easy to understand and do but the worlds teachers just don't see it and as you said, If they can make great videos and ski beautifully, They Must Know What They Are Doing! P.S. Picked up my season pass yesterday!

    • @languagetruthandlogic3556
      @languagetruthandlogic3556 3 роки тому

      @@JB91710 Thank you for the compliment and likewise, it is great to converse with an intelligent science based skier. When I think back over the years and the ski instruction and instructor training I have had, the amount of drivel I was told would have held me back - if I believed it. When I started to research and self teach, my technical and teaching skills improved dramatically. How do you view Harald Harb's PMTS methods?

  • @TENNESSEETRACKHAWK
    @TENNESSEETRACKHAWK 4 роки тому

    Not so great technique. Needs more pole placement