Great video - well explained. I remember when this ( big up and down movements) was taught as the way to short turns on 205 cm skis! Another ghost from the past that won't die! Let's hope you have put a stake through its heart! All the best mate!
The foot pressure pictures were great would be nice to talk about cross over and under relative to foot pressure and COM. Thanks for the pole tips I too see a lot of people using too much extension and it's hard to get them to trust crossing over.
Cross over is not a god option. This means that you have extended legs at the moment your COM crosses over your skis, when the skis are flattened. In an optimal short turn you move your COM forwards and backwards over your skis more than you move it to the sides of your skis. The only moment to have your skis behind the middle points of your skis is before and during the crossing. This is only possible with cross under. The best way to get this backward movement is by knee flexion of both legs, that moves the COM backwards over your skis. Flexed knees can make you to lose the pressures on your boot tongues and you can avoid losing it by pressing your ankles, feet upwards inside your boots. Remember you should move your COM forwards and backwards over the middle points of your skis equally much. The forward movement of your COM is mostly made by a body projection to a direction close to the fall-line, before you let your skis start to move into the new turn. Then a backward movement of your COM starts and goes on during the whole turn. In a cross over turn you will be unable to move your COM behind the middle points of your skis.
Nice demo and drill Reilly. I use this drill quite often for myself and when I'm teaching my students. Two little things I add if the student is having problems doing it correctly is to make sure his poles are a near straight out like a extension of his arms and position the hands vertically aligned to his shoulders with the pole tips slightly back. This helps to keep the middle position ( As you describe at 3:10) where he will want it and the pole tips in the drag position and prevent catching in the snow.
Morning Reilly from Arizona , I am looking at replacing my ski quiver. My daily driver is Head Supershape emagnum 178 cm. I noticed the eorignal max length is 170 cm. I enjoy short turns the most , I am an advanced to expert skier 165 ilbs, 5 foot 8 inches tall. Your comments are appreciated. Thxs
on a range of 1-10(1 for lowest and 10 for standing straight up), I do try to move around 4-8 range. This also depends on the 3 factors of slope steepness, size of turn and speed.
This video is great! I like it very much. Of course there is a huge amount of things missing, as always but at least everything you say is well thought out.
External cues and external feedback aren’t about being able to self analyse and self correct, as you rightly point out this takes guidance to get to that point for any skier… they are about providing more objective information that allow the skier to remove the negative judgement that can more easily come with internal cues and feedback. As you mentioned, the performance criteria for this task become as simple as whether pole tips were dragging on the snow. By honing in on this as the relevant feedback, the student is better placed to focus on the movements needed to execute the task and make adjustments from run to run, relevant to that feedback. Internal and external cues both require guidance during instruction, external cues are just proven to create a more robust skill set. That’s not to say that internal cues aren’t effective, and both come down to the skilfulness of the instructor using them at the end of the day.
Мне нравится узкое ведение лыж в коротких и среднего радиуса поворотах. Я сторонник старой горнолыжной школы и предпочитаю именно такой стиль катания. Удач!
This is an optimal witdth for his hips width, which is clearly seen at this speed. The racers' vertical ski separation at high speeds and/or steeper slopes is often misinterpreted by many at any (self-perceived) level.
BEST SKI INSTRUCTOR ON THE PLANET = Reilly McGlashan.... Tens of thousands of how to ski videos on youtube and only Reilly gets how to teach short turns. Thankyou so much...
I'm an adult learner and slightly beyond the intermediate stage but I've always struggled to keep out of the back seat. Last season I adopted more of an extension move and it really helped me stay forward when I needed to - especially off piste and in the trees. I hate to give up that functionality so is there any insight as to how to get the best of both techniques?
I would say the extension/up&down movement per se is not bad, just the exaggerated form. One tip that helped me staying out of the back seat is to always have the arms out in front of you (always in your vision).
extension and flexion is not bad, but when its mistimed or exaggerated that can become problematic. The rest of the video on projected productions explains more in detail about not getting back with this exercise. I have another lesson coming out on projected productions about not getting back that has a different exercise to address this. Everything has a pro and a con, if you extend "too much" you lose range in the lateral aspect to get your ankles and knees tipped over and the same goes by getting back. Staying in a middle ground or range is the goal which was the stationary demo in the video showing the appropriate amount of flexion and extension while staying in a range that the hips are over the feet and the COM in a position to allow the legs to move freely.
Reilly, how much vertical movement are you looking for in your short radius turns? Say, by contrast, as opposed to long radius turns. Thanks. // Marshall
I never see that problem in my learners. On the contrary, they hardly move up and down at all. I wish they would, because an excess up & down is much easier to cure then the bracing posture, which I do see often: outer/lower leg stretched out forward, bud backwards and a forward flexed trunk.
This is a small segment of a series on mistakes that skiers make. There are 12 videos with 12 mistakes. Obviously there are more mistakes but the videos go over many different problems and exercises on how to fix it. Not just this problem presented in this video.
@@ReillyMcGlashan -- You're an awesome skier. No doubt about that. But I really think that you're giving beginners the wrong impression when you say that you see excessive up & down movement in >many of< your students. I just checked my notes of the ski instructor course, given by a very seasoned level 5 ski instructor. His experience reflects my experience since then, in that by far the most seen errors are 1. stiff legs, 2. backseat posture 3. forward flexed trunk. They can all be seen in a movement pattern as in ua-cam.com/video/TEa2mUusD2g/v-deo.html. I see that pattern in >95%< of my beginners and not-too-advanced (except the frequent falling later in the video), and it is a very persistent pattern. Also, this is what the Austrian book for instructors says about teaching short turns: "Eine ausgeprägte Verticalbewegung erleichtert das Auslösen der Richtungsänderung." In English: "A pronounced vertical movement (up-unweighting) makes the initiation of the direction change easier." See ua-cam.com/video/z-TntjwaEgs/v-deo.html, a video from the Austrian ski instructor curriculum.
@@proskiinstructiondotcom8087 is there anywhere in this video saying this is “the most common mistake beginners make”? The video series goes over 12 mistakes. Some are more common than others. If there are mistakes less common does that mean they are not mistakes?
@@proskiinstructiondotcom8087 also this series is geared towards intermediates not beginners. At a beginner level you are right. They are static, once people take lessons and start moving and being taught up and down some go to far with it too. All movements can be mistakes if done in excess.
you can have a look at all the different videos here with all the different mistakes. Being stuck in the backseat is one of them just to let you know. www.projectedproductions.com/videolibrary ua-cam.com/video/AMySE8KQQK8/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/-SnnIWZ_Phk/v-deo.html
Flexion/extension (vertical movement) and tipping (lateral movement) are kinesthetically mutually exclusive movements that can occur in the human kinetic chain running between our center of mass and our base of support. During transition is where tipping needs to occur the most and the quickest. Due to this tipping need, we need to be at our most flexed position in the turn cycle. The more flexed our chain is, the higher the range of motion (in angles) there will be for tipping the feet. Extension happens afterward into the apex of the turn. That is where we are most extended which is better stacking for the highest turn pressure to come at turn completion.
Did you even watch the video? This video is about addressing people who are using too much excessive vertical movements, and not focused on edging... Your comment is totally out of context really, but, in saying that did my demonstration not have enough edge angle?
That's exactly one of the things that I focus on when I practice. The CoM explanation is good. Thanks, Reilly!
Great video - well explained. I remember when this ( big up and down movements) was taught as the way to short turns on 205 cm skis! Another ghost from the past that won't die! Let's hope you have put a stake through its heart! All the best mate!
The foot pressure pictures were great would be nice to talk about cross over and under relative to foot pressure and COM. Thanks for the pole tips I too see a lot of people using too much extension and it's hard to get them to trust crossing over.
Cross over is not a god option. This means that you have extended legs at the moment your COM crosses over your skis, when the skis are flattened. In an optimal short turn you move your COM forwards and backwards over your skis more than you move it to the sides of your skis. The only moment to have your skis behind the middle points of your skis is before and during the crossing. This is only possible with cross under. The best way to get this backward movement is by knee flexion of both legs, that moves the COM backwards over your skis. Flexed knees can make you to lose the pressures on your boot tongues and you can avoid losing it by pressing your ankles, feet upwards inside your boots. Remember you should move your COM forwards and backwards over the middle points of your skis equally much. The forward movement of your COM is mostly made by a body projection to a direction close to the fall-line, before you let your skis start to move into the new turn. Then a backward movement of your COM starts and goes on during the whole turn. In a cross over turn you will be unable to move your COM behind the middle points of your skis.
Great video 💯🔥🔥🔥⛷️🩵 Thank you sooo much! Beginner alert 🚨 but I’m hungry to learn!
Hm. Reilly, you've been a brilliant skier and a good teacher; you've become a brilliant teacher now, too. Just wow!
Nice demo and drill Reilly. I use this drill quite often for myself and when I'm teaching my students. Two little things I add if the student is having problems doing it correctly is to make sure his poles are a near straight out like a extension of his arms and position the hands vertically aligned to his shoulders with the pole tips slightly back. This helps to keep the middle position ( As you describe at 3:10) where he will want it and the pole tips in the drag position and prevent catching in the snow.
The additional information you add on the videos is very useful to me Reilly, thank you very much.
Morning Reilly from Arizona , I am looking at replacing my ski quiver. My daily driver is Head Supershape emagnum 178 cm.
I noticed the eorignal max length is 170 cm. I enjoy short turns the most , I am an advanced to expert skier 165 ilbs, 5 foot 8 inches tall.
Your comments are appreciated. Thxs
Excellent teaching. Thank you very much. I'll practice on the snow Thanks, Reilly!
thanks for watching.
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it
Excellent explanation, Reilly! I hope to see you at Interski in Levi this spring. /Janus
Thanks Janus! I won't be at Interski. I will have to catch you next time. 😀
You make it look so easy ⛷️
on a range of 1-10(1 for lowest and 10 for standing straight up), I do try to move around 4-8 range. This also depends on the 3 factors of slope steepness, size of turn and speed.
This video is great! I like it very much. Of course there is a huge amount of things missing, as always but at least everything you say is well thought out.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks. Good job.
NICE snow.
Spot on!
External cues and external feedback aren’t about being able to self analyse and self correct, as you rightly point out this takes guidance to get to that point for any skier… they are about providing more objective information that allow the skier to remove the negative judgement that can more easily come with internal cues and feedback. As you mentioned, the performance criteria for this task become as simple as whether pole tips were dragging on the snow. By honing in on this as the relevant feedback, the student is better placed to focus on the movements needed to execute the task and make adjustments from run to run, relevant to that feedback.
Internal and external cues both require guidance during instruction, external cues are just proven to create a more robust skill set. That’s not to say that internal cues aren’t effective, and both come down to the skilfulness of the instructor using them at the end of the day.
Мне нравится узкое ведение лыж в коротких и среднего радиуса поворотах. Я сторонник старой горнолыжной школы и предпочитаю именно такой стиль катания. Удач!
This is an optimal witdth for his hips width, which is clearly seen at this speed. The racers' vertical ski separation at high speeds and/or steeper slopes is often misinterpreted by many at any (self-perceived) level.
BEST SKI INSTRUCTOR ON THE PLANET = Reilly McGlashan.... Tens of thousands of how to ski videos on youtube and only Reilly gets how to teach short turns. Thankyou so much...
I like the up down; but, I work to do it like he says.
Nice..
Yeah. I agree 100%
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I'm an adult learner and slightly beyond the intermediate stage but I've always struggled to keep out of the back seat. Last season I adopted more of an extension move and it really helped me stay forward when I needed to - especially off piste and in the trees. I hate to give up that functionality so is there any insight as to how to get the best of both techniques?
I would say the extension/up&down movement per se is not bad, just the exaggerated form. One tip that helped me staying out of the back seat is to always have the arms out in front of you (always in your vision).
extension and flexion is not bad, but when its mistimed or exaggerated that can become problematic. The rest of the video on projected productions explains more in detail about not getting back with this exercise. I have another lesson coming out on projected productions about not getting back that has a different exercise to address this. Everything has a pro and a con, if you extend "too much" you lose range in the lateral aspect to get your ankles and knees tipped over and the same goes by getting back. Staying in a middle ground or range is the goal which was the stationary demo in the video showing the appropriate amount of flexion and extension while staying in a range that the hips are over the feet and the COM in a position to allow the legs to move freely.
Reilly, how much vertical movement are you looking for in your short radius turns? Say, by contrast, as opposed to long radius turns. Thanks. // Marshall
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I never see that problem in my learners. On the contrary, they hardly move up and down at all. I wish they would, because an excess up & down is much easier to cure then the bracing posture, which I do see often: outer/lower leg stretched out forward, bud backwards and a forward flexed trunk.
This is a small segment of a series on mistakes that skiers make. There are 12 videos with 12 mistakes. Obviously there are more mistakes but the videos go over many different problems and exercises on how to fix it. Not just this problem presented in this video.
@@ReillyMcGlashan -- You're an awesome skier. No doubt about that. But I really think that you're giving beginners the wrong impression when you say that you see excessive up & down movement in >many of< your students. I just checked my notes of the ski instructor course, given by a very seasoned level 5 ski instructor.
His experience reflects my experience since then, in that by far the most seen errors are 1. stiff legs, 2. backseat posture 3. forward flexed trunk. They can all be seen in a movement pattern as in ua-cam.com/video/TEa2mUusD2g/v-deo.html. I see that pattern in >95%< of my beginners and not-too-advanced (except the frequent falling later in the video), and it is a very persistent pattern.
Also, this is what the Austrian book for instructors says about teaching short turns: "Eine ausgeprägte Verticalbewegung erleichtert das Auslösen der Richtungsänderung." In English: "A pronounced vertical movement (up-unweighting) makes the initiation of the direction change easier." See ua-cam.com/video/z-TntjwaEgs/v-deo.html, a video from the Austrian ski instructor curriculum.
@@proskiinstructiondotcom8087 is there anywhere in this video saying this is “the most common mistake beginners make”? The video series goes over 12 mistakes. Some are more common than others. If there are mistakes less common does that mean they are not mistakes?
@@proskiinstructiondotcom8087 also this series is geared towards intermediates not beginners. At a beginner level you are right. They are static, once people take lessons and start moving and being taught up and down some go to far with it too. All movements can be mistakes if done in excess.
you can have a look at all the different videos here with all the different mistakes. Being stuck in the backseat is one of them just to let you know. www.projectedproductions.com/videolibrary
ua-cam.com/video/AMySE8KQQK8/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/-SnnIWZ_Phk/v-deo.html
What size poles do you use?
105cm... i am 170cm tall for context
Is it possible you meant 115cm? 105 is quite short for your height I think
Working hard or hardly working?
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Flexion/extension (vertical movement) and tipping (lateral movement) are kinesthetically mutually exclusive movements that can occur in the human kinetic chain running between our center of mass and our base of support. During transition is where tipping needs to occur the most and the quickest. Due to this tipping need, we need to be at our most flexed position in the turn cycle. The more flexed our chain is, the higher the range of motion (in angles) there will be for tipping the feet. Extension happens afterward into the apex of the turn. That is where we are most extended which is better stacking for the highest turn pressure to come at turn completion.
I want your cap 🧢
I will bring it in May!
@@ReillyMcGlashan and broken poles too… 😂😂
@@zoranstary7229 🤣🤣🤣👍
Yep, you’re not supposed to “seat” on your skis
For the love of God change this awful loop music and turn its volume down - it's beyond distracting and super annoying. Great content btw 😊🤟
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I think your feet are to close together. That’s old school skiing. Wider stance easier getting them on a higher edge.
Haven’t you noticed he is a world class skier?! He can do anything he wishes. Skis too close? No.
@@Skedawg88 he’s not teaching to world class skiers!
Did you even watch the video? This video is about addressing people who are using too much excessive vertical movements, and not focused on edging... Your comment is totally out of context really, but, in saying that did my demonstration not have enough edge angle?
Can you point us to a video of you getting a higher edge angle than Reilly with your wide stance? We’ll wait…
Well you are thinking wrong. So better stop doing that.