I don't understand how people are so willing to look past the total lack of characterization in this movie. Characters have very little personality, and it wasn't clear to me what anyone's motivations were, or how the characters felt about... well, anything. For example, i have no idea how Jessica feels about her son, Paul. Like, not even in a general sense. Does she love him but worry about his future? Does she feel guilt about being a part of the group that made him what he is? A lot of fans of the movie don't seem to see it this way at all and I feel like I'm losing my mind. Lol
Don't worry. You are just more perceptive than the average viewer. We all noticed it. Everybody was cardboard, the dialogue was dull and delivered extremely wooden. There is no humanity in this movie. There's no character moments or conversations that really let us glimpse into a character's mind. It's a pretty lightshow and nothing else. Even the music is empty and hollow.
When Jessica gave her son the the Reverend Mother, it was with the knowledge that he may not survive the ordeal. Yes, she served her part in standing outside the door to ensure no interference but she was terrified for Paul to the point where she had to recite the Litany Against Fear. That scene alone shows that she loves her son, as much or more so as she is bound to her Sisterhood. Later when the Duke asks if ‘you will protect our son’ she assumes he is referring to her when in reality he was referring to the sisterhood. Showing that the Duke already knew that Jessica loved her son. And when Paul snapped in the tent, Jessica began to cry because she cared for Paul and hearing him yell and scream at her, not only showing that she was worried for him (he was usually more calm and reserved) as he was becoming distressed. And the fact that she was feeling the effect of the Sisterhood’s plans on Paul.
Watching Dune was like watching Dune's trailer for 2 hours 35 minutes… [edit] I greatly appreciate the likes but want to express a mea culpa. I love the movie now and have been watching it obsessively. I bought a leather bound edition of the Dune Trilogy, and I’m stoked for the 4D experience of Part 2 at Mann’s Chinese Theater. Nonbelievers, I apologize. I’ve left the range. God Bless the Maker and His Water
@@N1ceDreamsz It was only a let down for people with no imagination. The second and possibly third movie is green lighted. The only "failures" are the empty headed whiners who can't appreciate good story telling. The rest of us will enjoy. Just please stay home when the other movies are released. Ignorance brings the "mood" down.
@@donny1960 haha! I hate Dune, but I won't be insulting you because of it. Dune 2 might be really good, but the first Dune, for me and some others is a massive disappointment. Cheers.
So, I saw the movie first time one year ago, I hated it. My friends told me I have to read the book to understand it. So I read the book and loved it. I went to see the movie for the second time, now I hate it even more, worst book adaptation ever.
This movie was a joke... I can't believe it's 2 and a half hours long. It showed us NOTHING. No character building, no back story, no talk of the different houses, no talk of any type of lore. For a movie so CGI heavy, you'd have thought we'd get some nice visuals... We didn't.. The interiors, exteriors, costumes.. All bland and boring as hell. I'm shocked as to how bad this movie is. The David Lynch movie blows this pile of garbage out of the water.
You guys really nailed this. I think so much of the casting for this picture was absolutely awful. No attention given to delivery of lines, no intensity in any of the critical scenes, like the box of pain, or Paul transmuting the Water of Life in the second half
My sister forced me to watch Dune 1 and Dune 2, I felt like the movie lacked action and that the movie cared about visuals more than the actual plot, it felt quite boring…I seriously don’t get all the hype of Dune.
terrible, she seemed to be the only one with any emotion at all. apparently these characters aren't written and aren't meant to make us feel anything. they aren't developed. everyone is 2 dimensional then they die lol its just about the environment, religious wars and drugs
@@ileutur6863 if thats how they were written no wonder its a long dead franchise. so dead they needed all the comicbook actors, big name actors and fuckboi tim to give it shallow value and garner interest .
@@GotoMaki4Micah It's not how they were written in the book please don't believe the person who said that. Go to the audiobook go to chapter 17. Then start over. That way you can know that the characters are worth getting through the lore at the start. They had a few good scenes in this movie, like the tent scene, but they flattened half the characters. Yueh was agonizing over these decisions and branded a Judas for something most people would have done, all based on the assumption that he couldn't betray them because of his training, which was actually more rumor mill than anything else.
I walked out of the cinema! SO boring. Was the whole thing shot in slow motion? No character development, poor script. If you enjoy sound effects and not much else, go waste your money.
I feel your pain. After word got out that there was a race and gender swap and the trailer started having the lion king single person singing african style...I had a gut feeling this was going to be off the rails. Then I heard the actress portraying jessica exclaim that she couldn't get past page 20 in the novel and she felt her portrayal in the novel was out of date and it was up to her to give jessica a modern vibe. For the last nine or more months I knew the movie would be uninteresting and had nothing to offer
I absolutely agree, I had to get up and get a beer half way through the movie to see if I can maybe enjoy it a bit more cause it was SOOOO freaking boring. And even then I was begging for it to end. I have never ever in my life said to myself after a movie (and I’ve seen my fair share of garbage) out loud “what the f*ck was that?!?” While people were clapping at that borefest. Hands down one of the worst experiences I’ve ever had in the movie theater. The best way to describe this piece of trash is just a 3 hour long hollow desert perfume commercial with Zendaya ft. Soy boy Timothée Chalamet. Do yourselves a favor people and spare yourselves from this one.
@@moistoyzter8884 luckily you can watch the Fan Edit of david lynch version on youtube and see how a proper attempt at bringing a reverent adaptation of dune should be made. The voice over parts and paying attention to what is spoken is key.
@@moistoyzter8884 "hollow desert perfume commercial" - yes! Were we even meant to care about any of the characters? I'm so sorry you had to endure all you did.
Dune: Imagine if A New Hope was just the first hour of the film and that part was dragged out to a 2.5 Hour Film. Imagine just seeing Luke on Tatooine for 1.5 hours doing almost nothing, meeting Obi-wan and Han at the last 15 minutes of the movie and them getting ready to leave Tatooine and the only scenes of Leia we get is the Hologram and her getting Captured. That’s how I felt. One of the few times I ever dozed off at a movie theater. Visually it’s fantastic but pacing wise, I felt like I’m watching someone read the book to me. When I say this, I’m referring to those books that spends 5 minutes describing the snow on that hill and how it shined so brightly and so radiantly. Too much time on things that have no meaning and not enough time on things I’d like to know more about.
Well, again, its not A New Hope or Star Wars IV. It was and always will be just Star Wars, where evenyone can become a Jedi if they want to and Han shot Greedo first. Otherwise, I agree with your post.
Watching this over a year and a half late but glad to see someone else had the balls to say the movie sucks. I actually do like the 1984 version because it at least offers me a full story that I don't fall asleep then wake up then fall asleep while watching. Sad to see so many dislikes. I wonder what the opinions of these people are now.
I loved the 1984 version, the actors were fantastic, I loved everyone of them. What I loved most about the 1984 version was the close bond between Paul and his father, a connection that was noticeably whitewashed from the 2021 version, we can't have that...
@@piotrd.4850 bro i watched breaking bad a few times and never skipped a scene, as someone who never read the books dune was so shit. if they make a movie about the game half life and expect people to already know the characters and universe etc i would probably like it only for the visuals, because i know a lot about it. but would it make that movie a good one? no
ur comment is older but YOURE SO REAL. the original lynch version is so campy and out there and didn’t bottle feed you but modern dune knows it’s audience is ignorant
Boring is subjective. But it was not convoluted to those who can think. Very basic "Good vs. Evil" story. Nothing a child with a normal IQ could not understand..................
@@donny1960 well, I wouldn’t call it basic. The whole inter-family political maneuvering is pretty interesting but it is definitely not hard to follow.
@@donny1960 if you asumed that Harconens are "evil" and Atreides are "good"" then you should look deeper than the tip of the iceberg. This Herbert universe is politically very complex ("plans within plans")and you must be able to see that even if you havent read the books or watched the 80s film or the series. It is implicated many times by Pauls visions... Anyway, calling boring a universe that is inspired by Asimov's Foundation and in return inspiring Star Wars, is a little too much...
Why did this movie get so many good reviews? I barely understood what was going on at all. Hardly anything was explained so if you didn't read the book, you're screwed. David's Dune, while having some problems, was still a good movie and I at least knew what was going on. Never seen such an overrated movie in my life.
The problem with Dune (2021) is that you have to do some research before watching the movie. Otherwise “Kwisatz Haderach”, “Spacing Guild”, Bene Gesserit and more would just sound like gibberish. A lot of viewers are lazy and don’t want to do research. David Lynch explains more through a narrative point of view with princess Irulan being the narrator
it got good reviews from people who have the capacity to understand things. Not people like you and a the reviewers who need to be spoon fed everything. The book and movie can be complex. But it basically is a Western with a little Game of Thrones and "Magic" thrown in. Very simple story in some ways. "Good guys / Bad guys". But obviously not simple enough for simpletons.
@@tobyhall9941 Well except those that did understand it. Sorry you don't have mental capacity to enjoy complicated things. I will let you get back to your crayons..........
In my opinion I hated the 2021 dune film. I love the book and for as unfaithful to the book as the david lynch dune was, I liked it. I dont know the 2021 dune film was a serious disappointment.
@@AmicaCream Since he got 70+ likes, I think many? Personally, it's not as much being "upset", as just thinking it's pretty disgusting. While one can say he has the right, it's much like farting and belching: those things happen, but usually it's considered NOT to be good manners, especially in a public environment.
Touching your feet is gross? What? Is touching your arm gross? The only time I'd ever considered feet gross is after like hiking for a long time and then taking your boots off. Even then all you'd is a shower to clean off the sweat then you are A ok.
@@actionbash2 I assume this is a rhetorical question. "Touching" your "feet" isn't necessarily gross. Picking your bare feet in public, is. Just like "touching your nose" isn't gross, but picking the snot out of it, is. Just like going to the loo on itself isn't, but taking a dump in public is. What makes something gross, thus, is both the action taken, and the time&place when one does it.
Hollow is a great way to describe this movie. It reminds me of a beautiful supermodel who is the picture of perfection on the outside but once you engage in conversation you are left feeling like "what's the point talking to you" because they are just looks and there's nothing going on inside. Void of personality, just a pretty picture.
it's not even that pretty. the cinematography feels quite good, costumes are merely good, not great, the acting is quite bad (pretty sure every single actor in this movie has acted better before), and the music just barely scrapes by and manages to create a nice atmosphere, but lacks any greatness (a common result of hans timmer working without john williams imo). I'm not a dune fan, just watched it as a movie, and it disappointed every expectation I had, even though I already knew better than to really trust the fans (after all, k-pop has rabid fans, too). I expected at least a 7.5/10, but it's not.
@@Ass_of_Amalek I don't think a john Williams score would at all be suiting for this film. the hans zimmer score was perfect but uncomfortable to your western ear because all you hear is western music. it took inspiration from middle eastern music and new instruments were created and recorded to give it an other worldly feel. that's something that john Williams would never do as he prefers to use the typical orchestral setting. also this film is not devoid of deeper meaning. anyone who says that is either blind to the message and symbolisms of our modern world or i just a complete idiot.
I WALKED OUT THE THEATER. This movie was so boring. This was as bad as After Earth. I'm an advent movie goer and this movie was absolutely horrible. I thought I was going crazy only finding reviews praising this garbage. This was absolute garbage.
Yup 15 years old...I've taught 15 year olds....Paul (in original story and in this film) is mature for his age...these reviewers say they are fans...o.k.....and yet they still get so much wrong? Possibly this is why more people dislike this review than like it.
I liked the movie but I pretty much agree with everything these 2 are saying. This movie is a bit of a miss. The hand to hand combat is laughable. Looks so goofy. Th entire plot felt hollow. I didnt feel the weight of the galaxy. I wanted to see how powerful house Atredis is; you never get a sense of their might. I didnt give a shit about any of the characters.
Genuinely curious here, and I don’t want to be the guy who’s like ‘you aren’t the chef so how do you know if it’s bad’ but what changes do you think they could’ve made to the hand to hand combat? Just to me personally it looked perfect, for example the seen where Paul is getting trained by Gurney, the attacks are fast and feel very fitting with a short blade such as they are using, it just seems like the most effective way and I thought it looked cool. Not saying you should choreograph the whole scene I’m just interested to hear your thoughts.
@Steven White for me it was more of ‘I have to block that’ and then returning with an attack but I understand what you’re saying. That’s true somewhat about armour although obviously shields aren’t always an option. Also I pity you that you couldn’t see, luckily everything was clear for me during my multiple viewings, lighting was beautiful as in all of Villneuve’s films in my opinion. The slow blade penetrates the shield was true though, just some more classic Villneueve attention to detail, the strikes start quick as to not give your opponent ages to react but slow down just at the last second to penetrate, they just s don’t have cartoonishly slow attacks. Those are some interesting ideas but that’d be reducing fidelity further than needed in my opinion. Fair point about lasguns although again not a major gripe for me.
@@damiantirado9616 i think it’s extremely difficult and realistically impossible to fully capture it but I think what Villeneuve did was absolutely fantastic and I for one loved it and can’t wait for part II. A bit of a tangent, but did you only read the first book?
@@detonater7441 i only reas the first one. Not a big fan. Im a big fan of the story but the book is just so complicated, reminds me of lord of the rings books which I didn’t finish, but I love the movies. However I knew when I read Dune that it couldn’t be adapted well, due to the fact that most of the story is based on what we know inside the characters head. David Lynch tried to do it like the book but his movie was boring, Denis Villeneuve dune is better but not good enough. I just don’t think it’s adaptable. Dune 2021 is extremely overrated, it doesn’t even have a second act, it just moved towards the third act and ends abruptly. Let’s imagine that the first lord of the rings ended after Gandalf died. That’s how it felt. Like unfinished. And yes technically it’s supposed to be split into two parts but if you’re going to split a movie you still have to follow a somewhat 3 act structure and make the movie feel tightly. Harry Potter 7 part 1 and 2 both feel like different movies with 3 act structure and characters change. But Dune not really, the characters are all boring to me, I didn’t care when jason momoa duncan died, I thought he was a terrible Duncan, the twist where they get betrayed is so bad, we never see why he betrayed the characters we don’t even get tension he just betrayed them. The movie is so slow but the scene where they get betrayed is so fast paced, like we have long minutes of just Zendayas boring face and stupid monologue but one of he most important scenes the betrayal is just super fast paced with no time for tension or to breath. Honestly I read Dune and I had to watch the Dune movie 2 times to kind of understand it, it’s sort of a mess. I prefer the David Lynch version even that one is also bad. It’s simply unadaptable, maybe a tv show. I think the only director who I think could do it Justice is Stanley Kubrick. His style would seem to fit something like Dune but who knows.
David Lynch's film is like a cool NYC apartment in a hip Manhattan neighborhood with a loft and big contemporary art paintings. This new Dune is like my grandmother's house with no internet and a lot of velvet Jesus paintings.
the fact they didnt read the original book ,like the actress playing lady jessica (and trashed it) gives evidence ppl like everything else rather the actual story lol.
Or maybe they didn't think the same thing? Anyway, there are a lot of book fans that loved the movie. I'm Sorry, but I think nobody of the haters has understand why some people, majority probably, had loved and love now this movie.
@@SageShadow096u dont have to read the book to appreciate cinema…i didnt..but i like pauls mothers character..and their relationship ..their way of communicating
The director (not gonna spell his name haha) totally failed to convey a very exciting story form the book. The movie absolutely lacked content! This movie is 3 hrs loooong and most of it is Harkonnens attacking and Paul and Jessica running away. Imagine what could have been done with 3 hrs to tell an intriguing story with CONTENT! Peter Jackson did a much better job in adapting the LofTR books!
I read the book and I have seen the 1984 movie and the 2000 miniseries and I have to say, Dune 2021 was a big disappointment. The movie has no real world building. Way too many slow-motion scenes and dream sequences. It was an absolute bore.
Hollowood is just an industry now. Production companies invest millions in projects then stick their hands into the creative process in the hopes to get a return on their investments. That's how it seems to me anyway...
@@Mind4orLease Denis had extremely tight creative control, so your conspiracy makes no sense. The first one wasn't exactly a box office hit, so them greenlighting a part 2, and continuing to give him so much control is quite surprising.
i also think Chalamet's performance was just wooden and a lot of his choices were wrong. in the books paul radiates regality, that he was born to rule, because... he literally was! he's the result of a carefully planned breeding program to produce a super human capable of mapping out the past and future to help guide the universe to a perfect reality. in the movie hes unsure, childish, uninterested and frankly just boring. he has none of the bite of book paul.
You're mistaken about a few scenes already. The one in which Paul yells at Jessica in the tent, and the one where Stilgar spits on the table are both directly from the book.
Correct. And while I agree that the acting throughout the movie was not ... stellar (not necessarily his fault), in this scene I think that his performance was spot on. He didn't found out that he was adopted, he found that he is the result of a genetic program. Coupled that with having prescient dreams, being betrayed, attacked, loosing his father, his friends I thinks that would break anyone.
@@ghitanicolae4539 on my first watch through I thought some of the acting wasn’t great but genuinely I was just high and upon subsequent watch throughs I think it’s excellent!
I like how lynch jumped over stilgar spitting and had Dr. Kines spit...not sure if I remember correctly or just making this up. Isn't Stilgar Kines brother??
@Yutoob Isranby WS No it makes the point that what the reviewers are saying can not be believed. They can't review what they either did not see, or did not understand, or did not remember. It makes the whole idea that they can explain what they saw moot. So that is WhhhhhAT. Moron.
You are going to get hate from the fan boys but you’re totally right about the movie. Specifically the worst crimes were the utter lack of character development and the extreme overuse of slow motion and long, drawn out shots of landscapes or closeups of faces for melodramatic impact. The acting wasn’t good from Paul but hey, he barely had any content to go on. Didn’t care when anybody died in the movie at all. Why would I? I never knew any of them. This was a high budget art house fan service film and it failed to introduce these people to those unfamiliar with dune (such as myself) but it appears they also failed to please some hardcore fans too.
@ׂ Not you. I don't think it was the actors either. Example, so many of the little things that the Duke did made you love him as a leader and strategist was cut. And the man who never doubted the mother because he was smarter than that disappeared in this movie. I was only grateful that it was A) a good actor and B) he had a nice scene with Paul at the beginning. But that's not enough, there clearly wasn't enough time. It's missing one important Duncan scene but honestly they didn't show enough of him even in the books which is funny... considering. But he was at least interesting in the movie. I could easily argue there are many things the movie did right, it's just so much of it wasn't. And to be honest I don't think it could have been in this format.
@@barbarabaker1457 movie rly rushed and didnt develop characters enough, that is crazy bec it is just PART ONE, they wasted so much time showing long closeups of Paul and his mother,visions and locations
dude the 1984 version was better in every single way. i just saw them both and cant believe how bad 2021 dune is. no characters, no story, no imagination, no vision !!
So true, while maybe the effects in the 1984 version were less than perfect, the heart and soul the movie exhibited made me an instant fan. This 2021 version, I could not sit through once, it was such an assault on my sensibilities. Paul was pathetic, confused and weak, like Hollywood depicts all of his group these days. Can't have motivational uniting individuals anymore, just soulless garbage.
Villeneuve should have taken some notes from LOTR: 1. A 7-8min intro presenting the Landsraad, the Guild and the Emperor would work 2. An extra 30min for character development on Thufir, Piter, Huey and Gurney 3. More color. The movie is basically black and white, or sepia. No color contrast 4. key scenes should not be directed/edited in total darkness. I couldn't see a thing in the Sardaukar attack on Arakeen or in the Paul vs Sandworm scene.
If this movie was completely pitch black, the hive mind would say “you’re not supposed to see anything! The director left it up to the imagination! Go watch a marvel movie then reeeee”
Mostly agree. Not a big book fan but the 1984 version left a bigger impact upon me. Also the minor characters are totally underdeveloped just so we can get endless scenes of Paul staring mournfully off into the distance. Dr Yueh for example was criminally underused and his imperial conditioning and the breaking of it left unexplained for such an important character.
All true, how they could leave out the whole artificial intelligence thing, just as we are seeing it today, is no mistake. Frank Herbert was extremely prescient in where he saw us going, this movie is full of warnings, and everyone one of them is purposely left out of this movie. I was so amazed at the idea of "Missionaria Protectiva", and our own legions and prophesies that guide us. If this movie had been done right, it would be a great guide to our times, mental self-reliance, self-control, hardship awakening our true potential...but instead we get weak ineffectual characters. I was hoping for so much more, I was sorely disappointed. Happily it was free to watch.
As someone who watched the movie before I read the book and found it “ok” I have to say that upon rewatching the movie after finishing the book that the movie almost entirely relies on the visuals and completely misses the core concepts the book is founded on. The casting was not totally bad although I did think that the casting for kynes was absolutely awful both for the choice of casting and also the writing of his (now her) character. I feel like the director has only heard a summarized version of the story told to him by someone that didnt understand the book at all. I enjoyed the movie as a popcorn flick a solid 7/10 and nothing further, the action was cool and the visuals were on point but what made dune so interesting was gone. I cant rewatch this movie and enjoy it now that ive read the books because now I see all of the flaws clear as day
A movie made with non theatrical actors in the modern day will only ever be like this. All you're going to get is models emoting a looking off into the distance. That's why it took me so long to see it because I knew it would be like this and I was right. Modern actors can't act!
Nah they barely had a script to work with! Look at the way they directed the Baron, in the book he was a lively and dastardly bad guy, in this film he barely said a few sentences with these long shots of him floating around. Tge actors did their best with a horrible screen play.
@@Jay-Kay-Buwembo I don't rate him so much. Not good not not bad. But indeed it's not his best work. However it's probably easier to put out a good performance when surrounded by good talent, and vice versa.
17 Race & Gender SWAPS was enough for me to hate it! I read the original 6 Dune Books and enjoyed the hell out of them. The "Hereld" of the Change, Shadout Mapes, Jamis, Harah, Dr Liet Kynes, The Tree Waterer, looked more like Planet of the Apes!
You would have to have had read the books to understand what was going on in this movie; and if you had you won't like what they did with it. The emperor has no clothes here. The visuals are boring! The costuming and art direction are uninspired. The acting is flat. It has no heart or center. It was miscast. It really shows how low the bar has been set and how unsophisticated audiences and reviewers are these days that this film gets so much praise yet missed the marks so often and so widely.
I'm so glad someone agrees. The story was so friggin cliche. I hate any movie where they narrate the world instead of show what's going on. The storytelling was awful and can't fathom why anyone liked this movie.
Glad someone agrees! My husband tried to get me to watch this 4 times and I fell asleep each time. Keep in mind I’m easily entertained! 😅 And this is probably an unpopular opinion, but I didn’t find Timothée and Zendaya particularly convincing in those roles, especially in terms of their looks. Additionally, Zendaya’s ‘bored college student’ tone feels repetitive to me. While I admire her as a celebrity, I find her more compelling in roles where she plays younger characters
The music is very unique and interesting in parts but often sounds like distortion -- so loud that it sounds muddled. I think some scenes were very well done -- such as "what's in the box -- pain" scene. But the individual scenes don't seem to fit together. Baron Harkonnen says so little and does so little that he seems to be almost non-existent, a strange and rather boring portrayal of this character. Minor characters seem to be swamped by sand and scenery. The look is stunning and interesting but also so very dark and very brown and very dull. It is a big scale movie that seems so empty. The SciFi Channel needed better costumes but the acting was excellent and the characters were always number one above and beyond scenery.
I agree completely. It's almost like they did too much on the visuals that they missed the point which is to tell a coherent story. Most scenes looked random and out of place and yes the costumes oh the costumes.. sigh
It was visually stunning, but that's about it. The pacing is awful, the characters are wooden (especially Chalamet) and none of the deaths were powerful at all. I felt nothing when key characters died. Hell, one of the deaths was basucally insinuated. They don't even show how that character actually dies, lol. That was so dumb.
Have you read the book? Paul is cold and calculating. And only keeps getting colder. I won't spoil, but a terrible thing happens to him and he barely reacts to it.
This movie sucked ass. Frank Herbert and Murakami Haruki are my favorite scifi authors. Dans villineuve has create incredible movies but he butchered this film in spite of financial support. I paid the theatre seven times and each time it sucked ass
I had no knowledge about Dune beforehand and after seeing this movie I still know absolutely nothing about this universe. I had this overarching feeling that nothing was translating without having book knowledge. As if I needed the mental images of Dune provided by the book to enjoy this long cutscene. Insofar as the world building - it feels like a nondescript Mad Max Star Wars planet. Not an independent unique universe.
@@WorldofHoliday brother, it broke my heart. The Dune universe is so massive and this film chose to ignore it and it felt like it took place in a parking lot of an abandoned restaurant on a raggedy planet. The left so much out that I can see it being crammed into Part Two.
Why in Dune 2 are the worms going 120 mph like they're bullet trains? LOL @ the shot of Stilgar flying past the camera on a worm yelling, "Yeehaw!" These movies are the worst. David Lynch is God!
Gotta be honest... this film has major problems. And zimmers score is servicable at best. Pretentious at worst. Film looks great i will give it that. But feels very disjointed. Really dislike this style of directing. Gotta be honest. It was... okay. Great? Matching the hype? Ahhahaha get outta here. Not a chance in hell.
Why isnt anyone mentioning the lady that randomly screams like she just had a vision of being beaten as a child bc she has dementia? And those fkn bagpipes. Jesus that was cringe. The movie made me feel one emotion: embarrassment
Never seen or read anything about Dune... I am being chastised on social media by friends because I said it was brutal to watch... I suffered the whole movie being it's all just cgi cut scenes from a video game and Timmy Chamalamadingdong being a cranky baby.. couldn't hear dialog, stupid sand dance walking, and I can't remember anyone's names... Didn't get to know any of the characters because we gotta see a cgi sunset over sand... This movie sucks
Listen to the audiobook. May take a bit to hook you but it's read well. Get through chapter 17, that's where everything off for me. The movie was, well it had moments.
Dune 2021.. it is boring, the visuals are impressive, but also dark, grey, tan, foggy, smokey. The sound design, and soundtrack is oppressively overwhelming.. Timmy has zero charisma in this. I don't hate Dune 2021, I am completely disappointed. I love the book.
he is a good actor.. judge for yourself. I will give you one example. I like the Netflix movie The King much better than Dune. Dune might win Best Picture, doesn't matter I don't like that movie regardless.
Director, writer, and producer (1 of 19), Denis Villeneuve is very much in love with his sets, his special effects, and his box-office-draw cast. You can tell because the viewer's time is wasted again and again either watching Zendaya‘s feet walk in sandals in the sand, or being forced to watch Timothée Chalamet brood …and brood yet some more, seemingly throughout this entire picture. Say what you will about the grotesque approach that David Lynch took to telling the story in the 1984 film, but it made you want to pick up the novel and read it from cover to cover. Even with all the modern day editing, special effects, cinematography and set design at Villeneuve‘s disposal here in the twenty first century, he falls short of presenting a more compelling story than Lynch managed to do decades prior. Comparing this film to Star Wars is ludicrous. Here's why: George Lucas managed to take a cast of virtual unknowns and through special effects, a killer soundtrack, and legendary editors, tell an original story that we're still talking about to this day. As one of -again, get this- nineteen producers, Villeneuve is focused more on scenery than story. The pacing is slow; the soundtrack is loud and obnoxious, and the actors can't convey anything convincingly. Chalamet's fight scenes especially aren't believable. As an actor he's too willowy and wispy and has to wear loose clothing to hide his bony frame. Even as a training fight, you can't tell me Josh Brolin‘s character wouldn't have wiped the floor with him, let alone a seasoned Fremen outside his own Sietch on Arrakis. Even Alec Newman was more convincing in the 2000 miniseries. With a budget of $165 million, Warner Bros. took an awfully big risk trying to make a blockbuster film that now unfortunately requires a sequel. Sadly they chose celebrity over talent, and let's hope they eventually learn from their mistakes.
Thanks youuuu for stating it so good. It was like i was brain washed half of the film seeing some actors and STERILE delivery of some acting. Cringe on the actress who played lady Jessica who DIDNT read the book and trashed frank herbert saying it was a sexist book rofl. so alot of it fell short for me, i gave it a chance but part need to make up for it hopefully.
I agree with you. I have other points to add but no need. I don't understand the underlying loyalty this film is getting from other UA-cam hosts unless they are on the pay role. They are even dune based channels.
1. The dialogue is too modern and bad. 2. I hated most of the cast. Momoa and Brolin feel like they were miscast as each other’s characters. Momoa has more of the light-hearted warrior poet attitude of Gurney, while Brolin is a more straight warrior like Duncan. I’m surprised the director didn’t flip their roles once this became obvious. Rampling just didn’t have the weight for Mohiam. Duncan-Brwewster is there to pander to the PC and ignores all descriptions of Kynes in the book. From the opening, I can tell Zendaya isn't going to be playing against emo Paul worth a damn. Paul, BTW does look like a 15 year old for a change, so that's good. 3. I’m disappointed Yueh didn’t get more of the attention he deserved, and I do think he was well-cast. Gurney didn’t get the attention he deserved either, nor did his poetry. 4. Brutalism is a bad design choice. The costumes sucked; even the cheap-ass mini-series made more effort. Nobles clothing looks just like the commoners. And sorry, but desert monochrome cultures like to paint their stuff bright colors. Egypt, Greece, etc. Take your pick. That's psychologically how they fight off the blah. 5. What the heck were they thinking about having the Harkonnen not be opulent? The Bardon feels like a godfather rather than a noble. They're like the Saudis of the Dune universe. 6. No character development; they're there for cinematic filler. Why is almost everyone alone?
You make some good and some bad points but why do people keep calling Paul emo? It's tiring to see. Is it because his hair is a dark brownish/black color as described in the original novel? Is it because of his eye shadows? Some even complain about the tent scene where Paul learns of the Holy War and how it will lead to millions dying in his name, yet him freaking out and being stressed because of that makes him seem like a 12 year old? Idk just some of the hate on this movie feels so forced. I think the casting was great.
I watched Dune 2 a few days ago I love the tech, creatures and environments But the story and writing was the worst I've experienced probably, truly terrible
Absolute dissapointment compared to the book. Zero character development, entire sections of the book that give lots of political and interpersonal tensions omitted, they made Kynes a woman and then killed him(her) off immediately when Kynes was supposed to be a huge part of story, and not how it happens in the book, Chalamets acting with Paul was terrible... this movie wad a shallow, hollow representation of the book. They needed to slow it down, they could have made it a 3 or 4 part movie and built character investment, went through some of the tense moments. Dune the book 9.5/10. Dune the movie 2/10. It gets 2 points for being visually awesome, everything else sucked.
@@cheengsing2300 the problem in the modern world is that weed is legal in many places and a lot of dummies hallucinate that they are hyper-intelligent; and these delusions of grandeur cause them to blame their inability to follow a linear path on everyone else 😆
@@onewingedangelsephiroth1561 the problem in the modern world is that some people are just fucking stupid and stupid people always think they're smarter than they are. I doubt this person is a stoner.
Finally! Too many people liking this movie. As a fan of the book I thought it was a terrible adaptation that sucked all of the energy and character out of the story and replaced it with a load of self-indulgent slo-mo wankery.
This movie was a drag. Interesting? yes beautiful? yes, great score? Yes, masterpiece? No, exciting? No. the movie had so much info I had to watch it twice to understand it. This movie was boring tbh. It needed 2 more action scenes Nothing happened besides that one fight and even that was boring. It was just ships blowing up. I might watched the sequel to see the rest of the story but I am not hyped for the sequel. I ranked this from a 6/10 after my first viewing to a 7/10.
@Dave this movie was interesting but boring. If the sequel is about the war Paul predicted then I won’t be seeing it. The characters were bland and the story was too much
i thought this movie was extremely dragging, i kept looking at my watch like how much longer is this going to be. It started out ok, but it really started to drag once they arrived at the new planet.
Finally! I thought I'm crazy! I thought the same things about the movie... I don't understand why everyone is celebrating this movie as a masterpiece. It's not at all! It just looks kinda stylish...
@@kevincragun5853 where was the baron?......or the rest of his house for that matter? Wheres the emperor? Where's thenots and sub plots? It looked nice....but it was garbage
@@TheRealBatCave The baron was shown countless time. He was the fat dude floating. The emperor is shown in the second half because the movies part 1 and 2 are the whole story of the first book.
This movie was a drag. Interesting? yes beautiful? yes, great score? Yes, masterpiece? No, exciting? No. the movie had so much info I had to watch it twice to understand it. This movie was boring tbh. It needed 2 more action scenes Nothing happened besides that one fight and even that was boring. It was just ships blowing up. I might watched the sequel to see the rest of the story but I am not hyped for the sequel. I ranked this from a 7/10 after my first viewing to a 8/10.
Yeah, Paul gets really mean to his Mother in the tent when he has that vision, but he is much more controlled. That is the part of the story when Paul becomes pretty emotionless, he gets a real taste of prescience and it really depresses him.
The Harkonnen attack scene was the worst part of the film, after Timothy Chalamet's acting. Horrible editing, in one instant Gurney is running and the next they completely cut away from it. The 1984 version was much better, and that one had plenty of problems.
@@PatrickOMulligan LOL.. Dude its not cause a situation exist that the mirror opposite does too... liking a bad movie sure, but there must be something cool about it, nobody likes to eat shit just for the sake of eating shit, ya maybe, thats called a masochist i guess... for hating a good movie, gotta be some kind of sociopath who dont like emotions i guess... what the fuk do i know im not a freaking psychologist, ..and why am i even writing that at this point... !! ...the issue here is plain simply that this movie sucks as a dune movie, not so much as a movie, but as a dune one,... and we hate it for that... and rightfully so, cause there's peoples around waiting for that since almost 40 years and they are served that crap... and thats hurtful.
Due to the expensive SFX, they have a relatively small cast. So it's always the main characters who do the exposition. That's a recipe for shite flix. Then, second recipe for disaster: when you think you have better ideas than the classic book you're adapting.
I like how it only got worse with Part 2, but the bookless bros still have no clue. Speaking of all the Zendaya, have you seen the press? Apparently this Denis guy is adapting Dune Messiah FROM HER PERSPECTIVE. Such a mess.
It looked great, but the casting was way off for this and it just felt soulless. Say what you want about Dune 1984, it has charm and the actors felt perfectly cast for their roles.
To quickly summarize Dune 2021. Is it some kind of masterpiece? No. Is it the 'most faithful Dune adaptation to date? No. (if part 1 is anything to go by, we dont need to see the next installment to see which way the sandstorm is blowing). Is the film faithful to the themes, characters and events and backstory? Kinda, sorta, but not really. Superficially, yes, but...No it is not. Was it a good film on its own merits. Again, not really no. Will part 2 salvage the very bad part 1? Not impossible, but, doubtful. That ferguson woman was a terrible jessica, always on the verge of crying. Important secondary characters, are barely in the film at all. Like Yueh, Thufir, etc. The film completely mischaracterizes the relationships that exist among the various groups in the story. The (few) paltry scenes depicting how space travel operates, are either dark, inaccurate and confusing af. But, in its defence, someone finally got thopters right. The story of Dune was changed from Great Houses power struggles, rise of a super-being to: Pasty-faced white (nat) imperialists, oppressing dark-skined native types and stealing 'their' resources. Because imperialism. IoW, DVs 'Dune' is barely recognizable from the actual story it is purportedly, based on. This film is a bad as his equally overrated, 'Arrival', which like Dune, is awful as well. Oh, and its full of scenes that were never in the book, and just waste screen time for no good reason.
THANK YOU. Most of the people I know think this movie was the bee's knees. I was bored to tears. Only 2 friends told the truth. They said it was like a beautiful 2-hour perfume commercial, but then everyone just stank like the dessert.
Or your friends told the truth and you just don't appreciate cinema without explosions and wisecracking action heroes? This is more cinema and less movie so if you prefer summer blockbusters you'll be bored. Some people said Blade Runner 2049 was boring too and it was an absolute masterpiece that absorbed you into it's world.
Nipzie Cinema is Godfather, Seven, Her, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, etc. This was pure trash, with nothing but exposition, camera shots that lasted too long and obnoxious music from beginning to end.
I really approached this movie with a positive attitude. What a waste of great actors so many times simply trying to strike a pose minimal character development. The dialogue was boring and a copy of a copy of a copy like Star Wars or Lord of the rings. It had the look of a really, really long perfume commercial. And like any overpriced product tried to get by with special effects and never-ending ominous music. Even though some of the actors are world-class They were given these narrow parameters and the screenplay must’ve been written by a teenager. The only reason I will watch Dune two will be for my son who loves this stuff. I’ll make sure I won’t watch it too late.
we know nothing about the characters, we have no reason to sympathize or care about the main character nor his house/faction. for a 2.5 film very little happens., House Atreides given the role to be the custodians of Arrakis, betrayed, not much else. Zzzz. Terrible decision to break the story into such a slow sequencing
@@mountaindewslave Really? I think it’s easy to sympathize with Paul after the death of Leto since the relationship is built up. Also we don’t need to have a connection to House Atreides it’s just a plot device. We only need to care about a few people in House Atreides.
I would say the first scene of the desert is great. But it's the same colors over and over. The same drab interiors. They made Caladan look drab! The guy who plays Dune is just too skinny and young and kind of superficial looking. The woman who plays Jessica is also too young looking. Her face is small and round like a 12 year old. The woman who plays lyte Keynes said the word sh*it and kind of lapsed into a modern Hollywood or California accent (Although later was fine). Aquaman as Duncan didn't work for me he also has a hip, beer room accent. Why did Paul disagree with his mother and decide to join the Fremen? Isn't that what the whole movie should have shown us? Instead, it seemed like itbwas just another Conan the Barbarian moment.
I have not read the books or watched any of the previous movies/series and I think this movie was pretty awful. None of the characters seem to matter, pacing is terrible, the way the movie jumps around is bad etc. There is also no build-up to important moments, no tension of any sorts.
1984's DUNE is a masterpiece. 2021's Dune is just a bad joke. Designs were overrated. That bull head??? The ships designs were very unimaginative, except for the dragonflies.
1984’s Dune wasn’t good enough to be called a masterpiece in my opinion. David Lynch’s film gets too much hate whereas Denis Villeneuve’s movie gets too much praise. I liked both but I would say Denis’ version was better because it was more menacing.
Jose, you are the joke here. The 1984 movie was not Dune. The premise of that movie is the exact opposite of what the Author was telling in the Books. The fact you do not get that is sad and indicative of not having the skills to comprehend.
I also like 1984 version better, loved the art-deco technology. 2021 version started OK but got boring fast, all except the Sadukar scene which was suitably shocking.
I thought I was the only one on the planet who did not like this screening of Dune. Too short, storytelling poor, cinematography all washed out, actors planky, not bad but meh.
There are only 2 things about this movie that are good. 1) The ornithopters look great and are very true to the descriptions in the books. 2) The kid playing Paul looked the right age and had the right build, but his ' sensitive ' hair was ridiculous. Everything else was crap and gave me a headache.
I have never heard of dune until I watched it last night. How many shots of walking and slomo Timothy shots non stop. When they get attacked at the spice planet I literally turned to my friend and said finally something is happening because I had no idea wtf what going on. 15 minutes of Zeneya in slo more is too much
This was the worst movie I’ve seen of 2021…super super super boring. Every other shot was a “flashback or premonition”. Then every other shot was a slo-mo of someone’s face or some random shit like blood dropping from the knife. Then it was so slow on getting to the point. Also so much whispering that half the time I couldn’t even understand what in the actual fuck they were saying.
I saw Dune tonight and I agree on so many things with you. The soundtrack is so loud yet you can't remember if there was a main theme. It is just a perpetual noise. And the main character.... He reminds me of Kristen Stewart in the Twilight Saga, he always has this face "I gonna vomit any second". The cast is quite strange, I don't get Jessica at all. I understand she is some kind of a nun, but I can't decipher her emotions from her body language at all, the two things are completely disjointed. And that flashbacks with Chani... How many times do we need to see her looking over her shoulder? So much time was spent on walking scenes and a friend of mine who did not know the book could not understand the plot because the essential stuff is given in the expositions while the most of the time there's just empty space. Three sentences, three minutes pause, another three sentences, a pause, and so on and so on. I'm 50 and I never felt this old as tonight. I feel I don't understand the modern cinematography at all.
Đes Davore. Nit si mator nit tu ima šta da se razume , film je taraba , prelep vizuelno a i to samo ako voliš betončinu i sivu bojčugu i pesak jedinicu al neke scene zaista jesu neverovatne.Muzika je krš dok gluma i ne postoji. Likovi su svi prazni i zaboravni ,malo Leto i Dankan odskaču i to je to. Sve u svemu ,jedina dobra stvar iz svega ovog je što će se međunarodna raja zainteresovati više za ozbiljan SF. Meni je ipak bio okej film kad podvučem crtu jer onakve prizore do sad nismo imali priliku videti. Vilnev je takav , radi sam svoje scenarije i jbg ,nije neki scenarist i dramaturg. Ostaje mu drugi deo da se izvuče.
I want to add something: couple of days after the viewing I had flashbacks and I realised I didn't hate Dune that much. Who knows, maybe someone will make a shortened, edited version? This is one of the rare times I wish the studio intervened and cut the bloody thing to something watchable
I have watched the David Lynch flick like probably between 25 to 50 times, same with the miniseries. I hated both of the new movies, except for the visual feast of it all is terrific! I can not escape into these movies at all whatsoever. These movies are just cardboard non-experiences. If you had some crazy D.J. putting some crazy music, sound effects, and dialog excerpts from the David Lynch film and the miniseries you could make better use of the cinematography, than this pile of bore n snor.
I swear it feels like almost all modern stories/scripts are AI written Edit: Before watching this vid I watched 84 for the first time. I cannot overstate how much better of a film that is compared to 21 as someone who doesn't know the source material. It's night and day. The ONLY thing 21 does better is vfx and that is absolutely not worth all the detriment. Every single other facet it gets trounced by 84. I'm going to check out the mini-series too
One of the most soulless film experiences I’ve ever had
i know right it was so sterile it straight up felt AI generated
The movie was simply, unfathomably and toe-numbingly boring. I have better things to do with 3 hours of my life.
100% agree. unsalted soda cracker of a movie.
Shit, pure fucking shit and I say this as a massive cinema geek and fanatic
@@pianoandguitarlover2773I only enjoyed the fat bald guy scenes
I don't understand how people are so willing to look past the total lack of characterization in this movie. Characters have very little personality, and it wasn't clear to me what anyone's motivations were, or how the characters felt about... well, anything.
For example, i have no idea how Jessica feels about her son, Paul. Like, not even in a general sense. Does she love him but worry about his future? Does she feel guilt about being a part of the group that made him what he is? A lot of fans of the movie don't seem to see it this way at all and I feel like I'm losing my mind. Lol
yup excatly
Yes
Don't worry. You are just more perceptive than the average viewer. We all noticed it. Everybody was cardboard, the dialogue was dull and delivered extremely wooden. There is no humanity in this movie. There's no character moments or conversations that really let us glimpse into a character's mind. It's a pretty lightshow and nothing else. Even the music is empty and hollow.
@@Aedrion- id say the opposite you lack the ability to see the small movements and emotional cues. There was a ton of subtlety
When Jessica gave her son the the Reverend Mother, it was with the knowledge that he may not survive the ordeal. Yes, she served her part in standing outside the door to ensure no interference but she was terrified for Paul to the point where she had to recite the Litany Against Fear. That scene alone shows that she loves her son, as much or more so as she is bound to her Sisterhood.
Later when the Duke asks if ‘you will protect our son’ she assumes he is referring to her when in reality he was referring to the sisterhood. Showing that the Duke already knew that Jessica loved her son.
And when Paul snapped in the tent, Jessica began to cry because she cared for Paul and hearing him yell and scream at her, not only showing that she was worried for him (he was usually more calm and reserved) as he was becoming distressed. And the fact that she was feeling the effect of the Sisterhood’s plans on Paul.
Watching Dune was like watching Dune's trailer for 2 hours 35 minutes… [edit] I greatly appreciate the likes but want to express a mea culpa. I love the movie now and have been watching it obsessively. I bought a leather bound edition of the Dune Trilogy, and I’m stoked for the 4D experience of Part 2 at Mann’s Chinese Theater. Nonbelievers, I apologize. I’ve left the range. God Bless the Maker and His Water
Fuck.... You're right.. trailers was the best part of this movie. Shame it was a massive let down.
@@N1ceDreamsz It was only a let down for people with no imagination. The second and possibly third movie is green lighted. The only "failures" are the empty headed whiners who can't appreciate good story telling. The rest of us will enjoy. Just please stay home when the other movies are released. Ignorance brings the "mood" down.
Exactly
40 minutes and went watching back to the future for 50th time
@@donny1960 haha! I hate Dune, but I won't be insulting you because of it. Dune 2 might be really good, but the first Dune, for me and some others is a massive disappointment. Cheers.
So, I saw the movie first time one year ago, I hated it. My friends told me I have to read the book to understand it. So I read the book and loved it. I went to see the movie for the second time, now I hate it even more, worst book adaptation ever.
This movie was a joke... I can't believe it's 2 and a half hours long. It showed us NOTHING. No character building, no back story, no talk of the different houses, no talk of any type of lore. For a movie so CGI heavy, you'd have thought we'd get some nice visuals... We didn't.. The interiors, exteriors, costumes.. All bland and boring as hell. I'm shocked as to how bad this movie is. The David Lynch movie blows this pile of garbage out of the water.
I only just now tried to watch it and i got to the second scene of dumb completely sudden yelling
It’s painfully boring.
You guys really nailed this. I think so much of the casting for this picture was absolutely awful. No attention given to delivery of lines, no intensity in any of the critical scenes, like the box of pain, or Paul transmuting the Water of Life in the second half
The original was fantastic. Not everyone liked it back then, but it's a masterpiece compared to this bland remake.
Glad to see so many other people hating it. I thought it was me.
Glad? Wtf
@@DerezzedMan ecstatic
@@DerezzedMan delighted
@@DerezzedMan Tittilated
It must be so sad not being able to enjoy things
My sister forced me to watch Dune 1 and Dune 2, I felt like the movie lacked action and that the movie cared about visuals more than the actual plot, it felt quite boring…I seriously don’t get all the hype of Dune.
the book the movie is adapted after is amazing. i highly recommend it... the recent movies however.... noo
Thank God someone else noticed that Jessica was crying in like 80% of her scenes: The oldest trick to try to force the audience to feel something.
terrible, she seemed to be the only one with any emotion at all. apparently these characters aren't written and aren't meant to make us feel anything. they aren't developed. everyone is 2 dimensional then they die lol its just about the environment, religious wars and drugs
@@GotoMaki4Micah that's how they were written in the book.
@@GotoMaki4Micah they are developed they just dont beat you over the head with everything.
@@ileutur6863 if thats how they were written no wonder its a long dead franchise. so dead they needed all the comicbook actors, big name actors and fuckboi tim to give it shallow value and garner interest .
@@GotoMaki4Micah It's not how they were written in the book please don't believe the person who said that. Go to the audiobook go to chapter 17. Then start over. That way you can know that the characters are worth getting through the lore at the start. They had a few good scenes in this movie, like the tent scene, but they flattened half the characters. Yueh was agonizing over these decisions and branded a Judas for something most people would have done, all based on the assumption that he couldn't betray them because of his training, which was actually more rumor mill than anything else.
I walked out of the cinema! SO boring. Was the whole thing shot in slow motion? No character development, poor script. If you enjoy sound effects and not much else, go waste your money.
I feel your pain. After word got out that there was a race and gender swap and the trailer started having the lion king single person singing african style...I had a gut feeling this was going to be off the rails. Then I heard the actress portraying jessica exclaim that she couldn't get past page 20 in the novel and she felt her portrayal in the novel was out of date and it was up to her to give jessica a modern vibe. For the last nine or more months I knew the movie would be uninteresting and had nothing to offer
Totally agree! Don't waste your money on this version. Complete snooze festival.
I absolutely agree, I had to get up and get a beer half way through the movie to see if I can maybe enjoy it a bit more cause it was SOOOO freaking boring. And even then I was begging for it to end. I have never ever in my life said to myself after a movie (and I’ve seen my fair share of garbage) out loud “what the f*ck was that?!?” While people were clapping at that borefest. Hands down one of the worst experiences I’ve ever had in the movie theater. The best way to describe this piece of trash is just a 3 hour long hollow desert perfume commercial with Zendaya ft. Soy boy Timothée Chalamet. Do yourselves a favor people and spare yourselves from this one.
@@moistoyzter8884 luckily you can watch the Fan Edit of david lynch version on youtube and see how a proper attempt at bringing a reverent adaptation of dune should be made. The voice over parts and paying attention to what is spoken is key.
@@moistoyzter8884 "hollow desert perfume commercial" - yes! Were we even meant to care about any of the characters? I'm so sorry you had to endure all you did.
Dune: Imagine if A New Hope was just the first hour of the film and that part was dragged out to a 2.5 Hour Film. Imagine just seeing Luke on Tatooine for 1.5 hours doing almost nothing, meeting Obi-wan and Han at the last 15 minutes of the movie and them getting ready to leave Tatooine and the only scenes of Leia we get is the Hologram and her getting Captured. That’s how I felt. One of the few times I ever dozed off at a movie theater.
Visually it’s fantastic but pacing wise, I felt like I’m watching someone read the book to me. When I say this, I’m referring to those books that spends 5 minutes describing the snow on that hill and how it shined so brightly and so radiantly. Too much time on things that have no meaning and not enough time on things I’d like to know more about.
Well said.
Perfect synopsis. Shit is BORING.
Well, again, its not A New Hope or Star Wars IV. It was and always will be just Star Wars, where evenyone can become a Jedi if they want to and Han shot Greedo first. Otherwise, I agree with your post.
Watching this over a year and a half late but glad to see someone else had the balls to say the movie sucks.
I actually do like the 1984 version because it at least offers me a full story that I don't fall asleep then wake up then fall asleep while watching.
Sad to see so many dislikes. I wonder what the opinions of these people are now.
agreed
I loved the 1984 version, the actors were fantastic, I loved everyone of them. What I loved most about the 1984 version was the close bond between Paul and his father, a connection that was noticeably whitewashed from the 2021 version, we can't have that...
The 1984 version is never boring, always intriguing. The 2021 version is always boring, never intriguing.
Sukcs to have poor attention span.
@@piotrd.4850 bro i watched breaking bad a few times and never skipped a scene, as someone who never read the books dune was so shit. if they make a movie about the game half life and expect people to already know the characters and universe etc i would probably like it only for the visuals, because i know a lot about it. but would it make that movie a good one? no
the 1984 dune tells a story and it feels otherworldy and fantastical. new one feels like 2022 people in their rooms.
That is Lynch's style, would recommend watching some of his other stuff if you haven't.
ur comment is older but YOURE SO REAL. the original lynch version is so campy and out there and didn’t bottle feed you but modern dune knows it’s audience is ignorant
@elkenenvy forget about the movie. Get saved. faith +nothing in the blood of Jesus for your sins 100% no works.
Thank you. Production value alone does not make a movie good. I had high hopes but ended up disliking Dune for being convoluted and a boring story.
i disagree
Boring is subjective. But it was not convoluted to those who can think. Very basic "Good vs. Evil" story. Nothing a child with a normal IQ could not understand..................
Convoluted and boring? How?
@@donny1960 well, I wouldn’t call it basic. The whole inter-family political maneuvering is pretty interesting but it is definitely not hard to follow.
@@donny1960 if you asumed that Harconens are "evil" and Atreides are "good"" then you should look deeper than the tip of the iceberg. This Herbert universe is politically very complex ("plans within plans")and you must be able to see that even if you havent read the books or watched the 80s film or the series. It is implicated many times by Pauls visions... Anyway, calling boring a universe that is inspired by Asimov's Foundation and in return inspiring Star Wars, is a little too much...
Why did this movie get so many good reviews? I barely understood what was going on at all. Hardly anything was explained so if you didn't read the book, you're screwed. David's Dune, while having some problems, was still a good movie and I at least knew what was going on. Never seen such an overrated movie in my life.
The problem with Dune (2021) is that you have to do some research before watching the movie. Otherwise “Kwisatz Haderach”, “Spacing Guild”, Bene Gesserit and more would just sound like gibberish.
A lot of viewers are lazy and don’t want to do research. David Lynch explains more through a narrative point of view with princess Irulan being the narrator
@@altaccount2005 ya the problem with explain is the films become to drawn out and the movie has a whole bunch of un necessary things
it got good reviews from people who have the capacity to understand things. Not people like you and a the reviewers who need to be spoon fed everything. The book and movie can be complex. But it basically is a Western with a little Game of Thrones and "Magic" thrown in. Very simple story in some ways. "Good guys / Bad guys". But obviously not simple enough for simpletons.
@@donny1960 dude, it’s a bad movie and no one understood it so understand that
@@tobyhall9941 Well except those that did understand it. Sorry you don't have mental capacity to enjoy complicated things. I will let you get back to your crayons..........
The Lynch movie is better, despite all its weirdness. This new attempt is pretty, but also pretty boring. It lacked any of the intrigue of the novel.
The sci-fi channel version is best. It just looks like shit and the acting is crap.
What! I thought this Dune film has more dedication to the novel
I loved that it was weird.
This!
Yeah that shit sucked. I had the chance to watch either Dune or The Iron Claw tonight at my friend's house and we picked Dune. Fucking wrong choice.
Stephen King once described the film version of The Shining as a beautiful car with no engine. That sums up Dune perfectly.
Stephen King is projecting his own lack of talent on Stanley Kubrick.
@Attmay Lol what a fucking shit take
Except that was a much much better movie.
@@Attmay Stanley made the Shining good. All Stanley Kubrick movies are good.
This movie wasnt even pretty. So dull drab and minimalist
In my opinion I hated the 2021 dune film. I love the book and for as unfaithful to the book as the david lynch dune was, I liked it. I dont know the 2021 dune film was a serious disappointment.
No matter what your opinions are, picking your bare feet on camera is nasty.
Absolutely agree fuck that shit.
Who cares? Dont watch if you re so easily upset you wuss
@@AmicaCream Since he got 70+ likes, I think many? Personally, it's not as much being "upset", as just thinking it's pretty disgusting. While one can say he has the right, it's much like farting and belching: those things happen, but usually it's considered NOT to be good manners, especially in a public environment.
Touching your feet is gross? What? Is touching your arm gross? The only time I'd ever considered feet gross is after like hiking for a long time and then taking your boots off. Even then all you'd is a shower to clean off the sweat then you are A ok.
@@actionbash2 I assume this is a rhetorical question. "Touching" your "feet" isn't necessarily gross. Picking your bare feet in public, is. Just like "touching your nose" isn't gross, but picking the snot out of it, is. Just like going to the loo on itself isn't, but taking a dump in public is.
What makes something gross, thus, is both the action taken, and the time&place when one does it.
Hollow is a great way to describe this movie. It reminds me of a beautiful supermodel who is the picture of perfection on the outside but once you engage in conversation you are left feeling like "what's the point talking to you" because they are just looks and there's nothing going on inside. Void of personality, just a pretty picture.
it's not even that pretty. the cinematography feels quite good, costumes are merely good, not great, the acting is quite bad (pretty sure every single actor in this movie has acted better before), and the music just barely scrapes by and manages to create a nice atmosphere, but lacks any greatness (a common result of hans timmer working without john williams imo). I'm not a dune fan, just watched it as a movie, and it disappointed every expectation I had, even though I already knew better than to really trust the fans (after all, k-pop has rabid fans, too). I expected at least a 7.5/10, but it's not.
@@Ass_of_Amalek I don't think a john Williams score would at all be suiting for this film. the hans zimmer score was perfect but uncomfortable to your western ear because all you hear is western music. it took inspiration from middle eastern music and new instruments were created and recorded to give it an other worldly feel. that's something that john Williams would never do as he prefers to use the typical orchestral setting. also this film is not devoid of deeper meaning. anyone who says that is either blind to the message and symbolisms of our modern world or i just a complete idiot.
It's rated 8/10 on IMDb lol
I WALKED OUT THE THEATER. This movie was so boring. This was as bad as After Earth. I'm an advent movie goer and this movie was absolutely horrible. I thought I was going crazy only finding reviews praising this garbage. This was absolute garbage.
‘Paul acts like a kid In this film’ I think he’s suppose to be a kid in the film 🤔
Yup 15 years old...I've taught 15 year olds....Paul (in original story and in this film) is mature for his age...these reviewers say they are fans...o.k.....and yet they still get so much wrong? Possibly this is why more people dislike this review than like it.
No. He's not in the books. He's a young man.
@@atlusavalon6745 In the books, he’s 15. To me, that’s still a kid.
@@atlusavalon6745 He becomes a young man after the events of book 2 ‘muad dub’.
@@ryacalico7648 You clearly aren't familiar with the source material, movie, or tv series (both of them).
I liked the movie but I pretty much agree with everything these 2 are saying. This movie is a bit of a miss. The hand to hand combat is laughable. Looks so goofy. Th entire plot felt hollow. I didnt feel the weight of the galaxy. I wanted to see how powerful house Atredis is; you never get a sense of their might. I didnt give a shit about any of the characters.
Genuinely curious here, and I don’t want to be the guy who’s like ‘you aren’t the chef so how do you know if it’s bad’ but what changes do you think they could’ve made to the hand to hand combat? Just to me personally it looked perfect, for example the seen where Paul is getting trained by Gurney, the attacks are fast and feel very fitting with a short blade such as they are using, it just seems like the most effective way and I thought it looked cool. Not saying you should choreograph the whole scene I’m just interested to hear your thoughts.
@Steven White for me it was more of ‘I have to block that’ and then returning with an attack but I understand what you’re saying. That’s true somewhat about armour although obviously shields aren’t always an option. Also I pity you that you couldn’t see, luckily everything was clear for me during my multiple viewings, lighting was beautiful as in all of Villneuve’s films in my opinion.
The slow blade penetrates the shield was true though, just some more classic Villneueve attention to detail, the strikes start quick as to not give your opponent ages to react but slow down just at the last second to penetrate, they just s don’t have cartoonishly slow attacks.
Those are some interesting ideas but that’d be reducing fidelity further than needed in my opinion. Fair point about lasguns although again not a major gripe for me.
@@detonater7441 dude as a fan of the book. Dune is unadaptable. You can’t make a good dune movie. Maybe a tv show, but that’s it.
@@damiantirado9616 i think it’s extremely difficult and realistically impossible to fully capture it but I think what Villeneuve did was absolutely fantastic and I for one loved it and can’t wait for part II.
A bit of a tangent, but did you only read the first book?
@@detonater7441 i only reas the first one. Not a big fan. Im a big fan of the story but the book is just so complicated, reminds me of lord of the rings books which I didn’t finish, but I love the movies. However I knew when I read Dune that it couldn’t be adapted well, due to the fact that most of the story is based on what we know inside the characters head. David Lynch tried to do it like the book but his movie was boring, Denis Villeneuve dune is better but not good enough. I just don’t think it’s adaptable. Dune 2021 is extremely overrated, it doesn’t even have a second act, it just moved towards the third act and ends abruptly. Let’s imagine that the first lord of the rings ended after Gandalf died. That’s how it felt. Like unfinished. And yes technically it’s supposed to be split into two parts but if you’re going to split a movie you still have to follow a somewhat 3 act structure and make the movie feel tightly. Harry Potter 7 part 1 and 2 both feel like different movies with 3 act structure and characters change. But Dune not really, the characters are all boring to me, I didn’t care when jason momoa duncan died, I thought he was a terrible Duncan, the twist where they get betrayed is so bad, we never see why he betrayed the characters we don’t even get tension he just betrayed them. The movie is so slow but the scene where they get betrayed is so fast paced, like we have long minutes of just Zendayas boring face and stupid monologue but one of he most important scenes the betrayal is just super fast paced with no time for tension or to breath.
Honestly I read Dune and I had to watch the Dune movie 2 times to kind of understand it, it’s sort of a mess. I prefer the David Lynch version even that one is also bad.
It’s simply unadaptable, maybe a tv show. I think the only director who I think could do it Justice is Stanley Kubrick. His style would seem to fit something like Dune but who knows.
David Lynch's film is like a cool NYC apartment in a hip Manhattan neighborhood with a loft and big contemporary art paintings. This new Dune is like my grandmother's house with no internet and a lot of velvet Jesus paintings.
The fact this video has so many dislikes is pathetic, proves how much people are close minded and simply dislike anyone's disagreeing opinions.
the fact they didnt read the original book ,like the actress playing lady jessica (and trashed it) gives evidence ppl like everything else rather the actual story lol.
@@SageShadow096 these guys said they read the book 🤡
Or maybe they didn't think the same thing?
Anyway, there are a lot of book fans that loved the movie.
I'm Sorry, but I think nobody of the haters has understand why some people, majority probably, had loved and love now this movie.
@@SageShadow096u dont have to read the book to appreciate cinema…i didnt..but i like pauls mothers character..and their relationship ..their way of communicating
How do you know how many dislikes there are? I can only see the likes. I also thought Dune pat 2 was a dud.
It wasn't dark. I wanted to see scary evil Harkonens that made me feel weird. This film looked adult but the story felt like a kids book.
Part 1
The director (not gonna spell his name haha) totally failed to convey a very exciting story form the book. The movie absolutely lacked content! This movie is 3 hrs loooong and most of it is Harkonnens attacking and Paul and Jessica running away.
Imagine what could have been done with 3 hrs to tell an intriguing story with CONTENT!
Peter Jackson did a much better job in adapting the LofTR books!
I read the book and I have seen the 1984 movie and the 2000 miniseries and I have to say, Dune 2021 was a big disappointment. The movie has no real world building. Way too many slow-motion scenes and dream sequences. It was an absolute bore.
This movie is next level bad- Last Jedi bad. What is wrong with movie making? It's like it's impossible to not make a bad movie now
Hollowood is just an industry now. Production companies invest millions in projects then stick their hands into the creative process in the hopes to get a return on their investments. That's how it seems to me anyway...
@@Mind4orLease Denis had extremely tight creative control, so your conspiracy makes no sense. The first one wasn't exactly a box office hit, so them greenlighting a part 2, and continuing to give him so much control is quite surprising.
i also think Chalamet's performance was just wooden and a lot of his choices were wrong. in the books paul radiates regality, that he was born to rule, because... he literally was! he's the result of a carefully planned breeding program to produce a super human capable of mapping out the past and future to help guide the universe to a perfect reality.
in the movie hes unsure, childish, uninterested and frankly just boring. he has none of the bite of book paul.
You're mistaken about a few scenes already. The one in which Paul yells at Jessica in the tent, and the one where Stilgar spits on the table are both directly from the book.
Correct. And while I agree that the acting throughout the movie was not ... stellar (not necessarily his fault), in this scene I think that his performance was spot on. He didn't found out that he was adopted, he found that he is the result of a genetic program. Coupled that with having prescient dreams, being betrayed, attacked, loosing his father, his friends I thinks that would break anyone.
@@ghitanicolae4539 on my first watch through I thought some of the acting wasn’t great but genuinely I was just high and upon subsequent watch throughs I think it’s excellent!
I like how lynch jumped over stilgar spitting and had Dr. Kines spit...not sure if I remember correctly or just making this up. Isn't Stilgar Kines brother??
@@billbaden742 No, but Stilgar is Chani's godfather.
@Yutoob Isranby WS No it makes the point that what the reviewers are saying can not be believed. They can't review what they either did not see, or did not understand, or did not remember. It makes the whole idea that they can explain what they saw moot. So that is WhhhhhAT. Moron.
You are going to get hate from the fan boys but you’re totally right about the movie. Specifically the worst crimes were the utter lack of character development and the extreme overuse of slow motion and long, drawn out shots of landscapes or closeups of faces for melodramatic impact. The acting wasn’t good from Paul but hey, he barely had any content to go on. Didn’t care when anybody died in the movie at all. Why would I? I never knew any of them.
This was a high budget art house fan service film and it failed to introduce these people to those unfamiliar with dune (such as myself) but it appears they also failed to please some hardcore fans too.
@ׂ Not you. I don't think it was the actors either. Example, so many of the little things that the Duke did made you love him as a leader and strategist was cut. And the man who never doubted the mother because he was smarter than that disappeared in this movie. I was only grateful that it was A) a good actor and B) he had a nice scene with Paul at the beginning. But that's not enough, there clearly wasn't enough time. It's missing one important Duncan scene but honestly they didn't show enough of him even in the books which is funny... considering. But he was at least interesting in the movie. I could easily argue there are many things the movie did right, it's just so much of it wasn't. And to be honest I don't think it could have been in this format.
@@barbarabaker1457 movie rly rushed and didnt develop characters enough, that is crazy bec it is just PART ONE, they wasted so much time showing long closeups of Paul and his mother,visions and locations
@@sillylittlesheepjax6009 Admittedly, while I like slow shots, too much does feel pretentious and can become looks over substance.
dude the 1984 version was better in every single way. i just saw them both and cant believe how bad 2021 dune is. no characters, no story, no imagination, no vision !!
So true, while maybe the effects in the 1984 version were less than perfect, the heart and soul the movie exhibited made me an instant fan. This 2021 version, I could not sit through once, it was such an assault on my sensibilities. Paul was pathetic, confused and weak, like Hollywood depicts all of his group these days. Can't have motivational uniting individuals anymore, just soulless garbage.
@@tomt4822 the biggest flub was not casting aquaman as paul. dude would have been wayyy better. ua-cam.com/video/6lzaPqKf2zs/v-deo.html
Directors vision is clearly there ..u could not not see it…director was good
Villeneuve should have taken some notes from LOTR:
1. A 7-8min intro presenting the Landsraad, the Guild and the Emperor would work
2. An extra 30min for character development on Thufir, Piter, Huey and Gurney
3. More color. The movie is basically black and white, or sepia. No color contrast
4. key scenes should not be directed/edited in total darkness. I couldn't see a thing in the Sardaukar attack on Arakeen or in the Paul vs Sandworm scene.
If this movie was completely pitch black, the hive mind would say “you’re not supposed to see anything! The director left it up to the imagination! Go watch a marvel movie then reeeee”
I'm surprised that most people are saying the visuals look great
Fuck all I could think during the first ~30 minutes of overloading exposition was "imagine if Fellowship started like THIS"
So glad other people realize this movie was way overhyped
yes for real
Mostly agree. Not a big book fan but the 1984 version left a bigger impact upon me. Also the minor characters are totally underdeveloped just so we can get endless scenes of Paul staring mournfully off into the distance. Dr Yueh for example was criminally underused and his imperial conditioning and the breaking of it left unexplained for such an important character.
Yeah I felt the same 1984 was better as a movie. 1984 music was better too. Honestly just sounds like any other hans zimmer stuff.
Try the audiobook.
the 1984 movie had a major impact on myself as well, I enjoyed every actor in that movie, it had real heart. the 2023 was formulaic and boring.
All true, how they could leave out the whole artificial intelligence thing, just as we are seeing it today, is no mistake. Frank Herbert was extremely prescient in where he saw us going, this movie is full of warnings, and everyone one of them is purposely left out of this movie. I was so amazed at the idea of "Missionaria Protectiva", and our own legions and prophesies that guide us. If this movie had been done right, it would be a great guide to our times, mental self-reliance, self-control, hardship awakening our true potential...but instead we get weak ineffectual characters. I was hoping for so much more, I was sorely disappointed. Happily it was free to watch.
As someone who watched the movie before I read the book and found it “ok” I have to say that upon rewatching the movie after finishing the book that the movie almost entirely relies on the visuals and completely misses the core concepts the book is founded on. The casting was not totally bad although I did think that the casting for kynes was absolutely awful both for the choice of casting and also the writing of his (now her) character. I feel like the director has only heard a summarized version of the story told to him by someone that didnt understand the book at all. I enjoyed the movie as a popcorn flick a solid 7/10 and nothing further, the action was cool and the visuals were on point but what made dune so interesting was gone. I cant rewatch this movie and enjoy it now that ive read the books because now I see all of the flaws clear as day
A movie made with non theatrical actors in the modern day will only ever be like this. All you're going to get is models emoting a looking off into the distance. That's why it took me so long to see it because I knew it would be like this and I was right. Modern actors can't act!
Nah they barely had a script to work with! Look at the way they directed the Baron, in the book he was a lively and dastardly bad guy, in this film he barely said a few sentences with these long shots of him floating around.
Tge actors did their best with a horrible screen play.
@@Jay-Kay-Buwembo I don't rate him so much. Not good not not bad.
But indeed it's not his best work. However it's probably easier to put out a good performance when surrounded by good talent, and vice versa.
I think this is exactly the kind of take we need to start taking more seriously, but there's more things wrong with Dune Part 1 than just the acting
This movie was a waste of time
Amen
17 Race & Gender SWAPS was enough for me to hate it! I read the original 6 Dune Books and enjoyed the hell out of them. The "Hereld" of the Change, Shadout Mapes, Jamis, Harah, Dr Liet Kynes, The Tree Waterer, looked more like Planet of the Apes!
Just watched it on Netflix. Super dissappointing after all the hype. And how many people just ignore the flaws.
You would have to have had read the books to understand what was going on in this movie; and if you had you won't like what they did with it. The emperor has no clothes here. The visuals are boring! The costuming and art direction are uninspired. The acting is flat. It has no heart or center. It was miscast. It really shows how low the bar has been set and how unsophisticated audiences and reviewers are these days that this film gets so much praise yet missed the marks so often and so widely.
I'm so glad someone agrees. The story was so friggin cliche. I hate any movie where they narrate the world instead of show what's going on. The storytelling was awful and can't fathom why anyone liked this movie.
It's the actors for me. Hollywood uses these same big blockbuster actors for every single film
It shouldn’t be that hard to fathom.
1) People think differently than you.
2) The world doesn’t revolve around you.
@@shinjenriz yeah but the movie was still 🔥 trash.
Based
@@shinjenriz movie was still boring asf lmao
I felt so disconnected from the movie
It was slow
Your young and haven't come from the crazy 80s n 90s of film. Its an epic from the darkside. Love it or fukoff
@@drumingypsy4749 Bye angry person.
@@drumingypsy4749 and I'm not young
The writing was terrible the sci-fi Chanel did a much better job story telling and building the world. Special effects were go though.
Glad someone agrees!
My husband tried to get me to watch this 4 times and I fell asleep each time.
Keep in mind I’m easily entertained! 😅
And this is probably an unpopular opinion, but I didn’t find Timothée and Zendaya particularly convincing in those roles, especially in terms of their looks. Additionally, Zendaya’s ‘bored college student’ tone feels repetitive to me. While I admire her as a celebrity, I find her more compelling in roles where she plays younger characters
This movie breaks my heart because how bad it was to source material.
To be fair the first DUNE movie is more different than the newer movie to the source material.
@@Yuuzhanvonggi have seen the movie ..do you think i should read the book¿i feel like i pretty much know the sstory
The music is very unique and interesting in parts but often sounds like distortion -- so loud that it sounds muddled. I think some scenes were very well done -- such as "what's in the box -- pain" scene. But the individual scenes don't seem to fit together. Baron Harkonnen says so little and does so little that he seems to be almost non-existent, a strange and rather boring portrayal of this character. Minor characters seem to be swamped by sand and scenery. The look is stunning and interesting but also so very dark and very brown and very dull. It is a big scale movie that seems so empty. The SciFi Channel needed better costumes but the acting was excellent and the characters were always number one above and beyond scenery.
I agree completely. It's almost like they did too much on the visuals that they missed the point which is to tell a coherent story. Most scenes looked random and out of place and yes the costumes oh the costumes.. sigh
The Baron scenes were basically the director telling the actor: 'Remember Brando in Apocalypse Now? Just do that!'
It was visually stunning, but that's about it. The pacing is awful, the characters are wooden (especially Chalamet) and none of the deaths were powerful at all. I felt nothing when key characters died. Hell, one of the deaths was basucally insinuated. They don't even show how that character actually dies, lol. That was so dumb.
Agree
Have you read the book? Paul is cold and calculating. And only keeps getting colder. I won't spoil, but a terrible thing happens to him and he barely reacts to it.
@@hex_6590 Considering how he is in the books some would say Chalamet overacted lolll
@@BrotherGilbert69 "Timothee, stop having feelings when you're playing Paul."
"Lol," said Timothee, "Lmao."
@@hex_6590 Cold does not equal wooden. But Hollywood can't distinguish 'cold and calculated/badass' from stilted, wooden and absolutely hollow.
This movie sucked ass. Frank Herbert and Murakami Haruki are my favorite scifi authors. Dans villineuve has create incredible movies but he butchered this film in spite of financial support. I paid the theatre seven times and each time it sucked ass
I had no knowledge about Dune beforehand and after seeing this movie I still know absolutely nothing about this universe. I had this overarching feeling that nothing was translating without having book knowledge. As if I needed the mental images of Dune provided by the book to enjoy this long cutscene.
Insofar as the world building - it feels like a nondescript Mad Max Star Wars planet. Not an independent unique universe.
That's one of the things that depressed me. The universe in Dune is amazing and you see and learn none of it in this version.
@@WorldofHoliday brother, it broke my heart. The Dune universe is so massive and this film chose to ignore it and it felt like it took place in a parking lot of an abandoned restaurant on a raggedy planet. The left so much out that I can see it being crammed into Part Two.
I found the movie just mediocre. The politics in the movie was almost pg-13 level of shallow. It did not live up to the hype at all.
The film IS PG-13 as it happens!
Why in Dune 2 are the worms going 120 mph like they're bullet trains? LOL @ the shot of Stilgar flying past the camera on a worm yelling, "Yeehaw!" These movies are the worst. David Lynch is God!
Gotta be honest... this film has major problems. And zimmers score is servicable at best. Pretentious at worst. Film looks great i will give it that. But feels very disjointed. Really dislike this style of directing. Gotta be honest. It was... okay. Great? Matching the hype? Ahhahaha get outta here. Not a chance in hell.
Why isnt anyone mentioning the lady that randomly screams like she just had a vision of being beaten as a child bc she has dementia? And those fkn bagpipes. Jesus that was cringe. The movie made me feel one emotion: embarrassment
Just watched the trailer for Dune 2. Honestly, a two minute something trailer gave more than the whole first Dune movie.
I was so disappointed about that movie that I have zero hype for Dune Part 2.
Never seen or read anything about Dune... I am being chastised on social media by friends because I said it was brutal to watch... I suffered the whole movie being it's all just cgi cut scenes from a video game and Timmy Chamalamadingdong being a cranky baby.. couldn't hear dialog, stupid sand dance walking, and I can't remember anyone's names... Didn't get to know any of the characters because we gotta see a cgi sunset over sand... This movie sucks
You are heard, & you are correct, my friend.
Listen to the audiobook. May take a bit to hook you but it's read well. Get through chapter 17, that's where everything off for me. The movie was, well it had moments.
Dune 2021.. it is boring, the visuals are impressive, but also dark, grey, tan, foggy, smokey. The sound design, and soundtrack is oppressively overwhelming.. Timmy has zero charisma in this. I don't hate Dune 2021, I am completely disappointed. I love the book.
he is a good actor.. judge for yourself. I will give you one example. I like the Netflix movie The King much better than Dune. Dune might win Best Picture, doesn't matter I don't like that movie regardless.
I love how everytime this guy uploads a video about a movie like this, the comments that agree a majority of the time have "boring" in it lmao
@@why-oh-wai haha!
@@why-oh-wai your comment is better and more entertaining than Dune.
The colors were so bland. The architecture as well.
Director, writer, and producer (1 of 19), Denis Villeneuve is very much in love with his sets, his special effects, and his box-office-draw cast. You can tell because the viewer's time is wasted again and again either watching Zendaya‘s feet walk in sandals in the sand, or being forced to watch Timothée Chalamet brood …and brood yet some more, seemingly throughout this entire picture. Say what you will about the grotesque approach that David Lynch took to telling the story in the 1984 film, but it made you want to pick up the novel and read it from cover to cover. Even with all the modern day editing, special effects, cinematography and set design at Villeneuve‘s disposal here in the twenty first century, he falls short of presenting a more compelling story than Lynch managed to do decades prior. Comparing this film to Star Wars is ludicrous. Here's why: George Lucas managed to take a cast of virtual unknowns and through special effects, a killer soundtrack, and legendary editors, tell an original story that we're still talking about to this day. As one of -again, get this- nineteen producers, Villeneuve is focused more on scenery than story. The pacing is slow; the soundtrack is loud and obnoxious, and the actors can't convey anything convincingly. Chalamet's fight scenes especially aren't believable. As an actor he's too willowy and wispy and has to wear loose clothing to hide his bony frame. Even as a training fight, you can't tell me Josh Brolin‘s character wouldn't have wiped the floor with him, let alone a seasoned Fremen outside his own Sietch on Arrakis. Even Alec Newman was more convincing in the 2000 miniseries. With a budget of $165 million, Warner Bros. took an awfully big risk trying to make a blockbuster film that now unfortunately requires a sequel. Sadly they chose celebrity over talent, and let's hope they eventually learn from their mistakes.
Absolutely! And we are wondering: where did all the time for plot and lore go? That's where
Thanks youuuu for stating it so good. It was like i was brain washed half of the film seeing some actors and STERILE delivery of some acting. Cringe on the actress who played lady Jessica who DIDNT read the book and trashed frank herbert saying it was a sexist book rofl. so alot of it fell short for me, i gave it a chance but part need to make up for it hopefully.
I agree with you. I have other points to add but no need. I don't understand the underlying loyalty this film is getting from other UA-cam hosts unless they are on the pay role. They are even dune based channels.
Lol Paul is supposed to be that small and bony.
@Athena Ethereal I liked the cast, the problem was far more the script.
1. The dialogue is too modern and bad.
2. I hated most of the cast. Momoa and Brolin feel like they were miscast as each other’s characters. Momoa has more of the light-hearted warrior poet attitude of Gurney, while Brolin is a more straight warrior like Duncan. I’m surprised the director didn’t flip their roles once this became obvious. Rampling just didn’t have the weight for Mohiam. Duncan-Brwewster is there to pander to the PC and ignores all descriptions of Kynes in the book.
From the opening, I can tell Zendaya isn't going to be playing against emo Paul worth a damn. Paul, BTW does look like a 15 year old for a change, so that's good.
3. I’m disappointed Yueh didn’t get more of the attention he deserved, and I do think he was well-cast. Gurney didn’t get the attention he deserved either, nor did his poetry.
4. Brutalism is a bad design choice. The costumes sucked; even the cheap-ass mini-series made more effort. Nobles clothing looks just like the commoners. And sorry, but desert monochrome cultures like to paint their stuff bright colors. Egypt, Greece, etc. Take your pick. That's psychologically how they fight off the blah.
5. What the heck were they thinking about having the Harkonnen not be opulent? The Bardon feels like a godfather rather than a noble. They're like the Saudis of the Dune universe.
6. No character development; they're there for cinematic filler. Why is almost everyone alone?
You make some good and some bad points but why do people keep calling Paul emo? It's tiring to see. Is it because his hair is a dark brownish/black color as described in the original novel? Is it because of his eye shadows? Some even complain about the tent scene where Paul learns of the Holy War and how it will lead to millions dying in his name, yet him freaking out and being stressed because of that makes him seem like a 12 year old? Idk just some of the hate on this movie feels so forced. I think the casting was great.
I watched Dune 2 a few days ago
I love the tech, creatures and environments
But the story and writing was the worst I've experienced probably, truly terrible
Absolute dissapointment compared to the book. Zero character development, entire sections of the book that give lots of political and interpersonal tensions omitted, they made Kynes a woman and then killed him(her) off immediately when Kynes was supposed to be a huge part of story, and not how it happens in the book, Chalamets acting with Paul was terrible... this movie wad a shallow, hollow representation of the book. They needed to slow it down, they could have made it a 3 or 4 part movie and built character investment, went through some of the tense moments.
Dune the book 9.5/10. Dune the movie 2/10. It gets 2 points for being visually awesome, everything else sucked.
The movie is bad because It is a bad adaptation of the book.
I was totally lost watching this movie, I was feeling like I needed to have read the books to be able to follow it
While that's not how movie adaptations SHOULD go, I really hope you DO read the books, as they're great!
It literally spoon fed you the information, are you just slow? Lmao
@@cheengsing2300 the problem in the modern world is that weed is legal in many places and a lot of dummies hallucinate that they are hyper-intelligent; and these delusions of grandeur cause them to blame their inability to follow a linear path on everyone else 😆
@@onewingedangelsephiroth1561 the problem in the modern world is that some people are just fucking stupid and stupid people always think they're smarter than they are. I doubt this person is a stoner.
Never read the books. I had no problem following the story.
Finally! Too many people liking this movie. As a fan of the book I thought it was a terrible adaptation that sucked all of the energy and character out of the story and replaced it with a load of self-indulgent slo-mo wankery.
Yes! This is how I feel as well!
Yes! I agree. It was ridiculous.
I actually thought I was the only one who felt the movie was dragging.
This movie was a drag. Interesting? yes beautiful? yes, great score? Yes, masterpiece? No, exciting? No. the movie had so much info I had to watch it twice to understand it. This movie was boring tbh. It needed 2 more action scenes Nothing happened besides that one fight and even that was boring. It was just ships blowing up. I might watched the sequel to see the rest of the story but I am not hyped for the sequel. I ranked this from a 6/10 after my first viewing to a 7/10.
@Dave this movie was interesting but boring. If the sequel is about the war Paul predicted then I won’t be seeing it. The characters were bland and the story was too much
i thought this movie was extremely dragging, i kept looking at my watch like how much longer is this going to be. It started out ok, but it really started to drag once they arrived at the new planet.
@@tmac731 i gave it a 6/10, but after digesting it a bit, i git a 5/10, definitely not a movie i care to watch a second time
@@Rawlingm yea once they got to arrackus the movie fell off harder than Shia Lebouf after Transformers dark of the moon
I think tent scene happens in the book but he’s more angry at Jessica than sad
It did happen. There is an entire scene, the tent was in the book and when they said "sweat and tears" it was the tent holding the water.
In the book he struggles to even grieve. Like he wants to but his body just won’t
It was so boring, it could’ve just been skipped entirely
@@scalychannel5897 No it couldn't. The tent scene in this movie is going to be an incredibly important scene in understanding Paul going forward
Finally! I thought I'm crazy! I thought the same things about the movie... I don't understand why everyone is celebrating this movie as a masterpiece. It's not at all! It just looks kinda stylish...
Way to give an opinion, but not backing it with any thoughtful commentary why you didn’t like it. The worst you can say is it’s kind of stylish?
@@kevincragun5853 where was the baron?......or the rest of his house for that matter? Wheres the emperor? Where's thenots and sub plots? It looked nice....but it was garbage
@@TheRealBatCave The baron was shown countless time. He was the fat dude floating. The emperor is shown in the second half because the movies part 1 and 2 are the whole story of the first book.
@@Needler13 lol im talking about this 2021 version......the emperor wasn't in it at all.....the baron was in it for maybe 4 minutes.
This movie was a drag. Interesting? yes beautiful? yes, great score? Yes, masterpiece? No, exciting? No. the movie had so much info I had to watch it twice to understand it. This movie was boring tbh. It needed 2 more action scenes Nothing happened besides that one fight and even that was boring. It was just ships blowing up. I might watched the sequel to see the rest of the story but I am not hyped for the sequel. I ranked this from a 7/10 after my first viewing to a 8/10.
Director: Action!
Zendaya: *pouts aggressively*
Movie was a pile of shit
the movie was absolutely mind numbing, i cant believe there are reviews praising it
Yeah, Paul gets really mean to his Mother in the tent when he has that vision, but he is much more controlled. That is the part of the story when Paul becomes pretty emotionless, he gets a real taste of prescience and it really depresses him.
Didn't like the pregnancy part and just overall weird creepy witches massive turn off.
The Harkonnen attack scene was the worst part of the film, after Timothy Chalamet's acting. Horrible editing, in one instant Gurney is running and the next they completely cut away from it. The 1984 version was much better, and that one had plenty of problems.
There is a difference in not liking the film, and it actually being bad.
This movie checks both boxes so the difference is irrelevant here
@@PowerfulSniff Having seen it only once, I am not convinced it is a bad film yet.
ummm.. nha not really... we hate it cause it's bad.
@@MuktiLuv ummm...you do not think you can like a bad film or vice versa?
@@PatrickOMulligan LOL.. Dude its not cause a situation exist that the mirror opposite does too... liking a bad movie sure, but there must be something cool about it, nobody likes to eat shit just for the sake of eating shit, ya maybe, thats called a masochist i guess... for hating a good movie, gotta be some kind of sociopath who dont like emotions i guess... what the fuk do i know im not a freaking psychologist, ..and why am i even writing that at this point... !! ...the issue here is plain simply that this movie sucks as a dune movie, not so much as a movie, but as a dune one,... and we hate it for that... and rightfully so, cause there's peoples around waiting for that since almost 40 years and they are served that crap... and thats hurtful.
Due to the expensive SFX, they have a relatively small cast. So it's always the main characters who do the exposition. That's a recipe for shite flix.
Then, second recipe for disaster: when you think you have better ideas than the classic book you're adapting.
I like how it only got worse with Part 2, but the bookless bros still have no clue.
Speaking of all the Zendaya, have you seen the press? Apparently this Denis guy is adapting Dune Messiah FROM HER PERSPECTIVE. Such a mess.
It looked great, but the casting was way off for this and it just felt soulless. Say what you want about Dune 1984, it has charm and the actors felt perfectly cast for their roles.
To quickly summarize Dune 2021. Is it some kind of masterpiece? No. Is it the 'most faithful Dune adaptation to date? No. (if part 1 is anything to go by, we dont need to see the next installment to see which way the sandstorm is blowing). Is the film faithful to the themes, characters and events and backstory? Kinda, sorta, but not really. Superficially, yes, but...No it is not. Was it a good film on its own merits. Again, not really no. Will part 2 salvage the very bad part 1? Not impossible, but, doubtful. That ferguson woman was a terrible jessica, always on the verge of crying. Important secondary characters, are barely in the film at all. Like Yueh, Thufir, etc. The film completely mischaracterizes the relationships that exist among the various groups in the story. The (few) paltry scenes depicting how space travel operates, are either dark, inaccurate and confusing af. But, in its defence, someone finally got thopters right. The story of Dune was changed from Great Houses power struggles, rise of a super-being to: Pasty-faced white (nat) imperialists, oppressing dark-skined native types and stealing 'their' resources. Because imperialism. IoW, DVs 'Dune' is barely recognizable from the actual story it is purportedly, based on. This film is a bad as his equally overrated, 'Arrival', which like Dune, is awful as well. Oh, and its full of scenes that were never in the book, and just waste screen time for no good reason.
THANK YOU. Most of the people I know think this movie was the bee's knees. I was bored to tears. Only 2 friends told the truth. They said it was like a beautiful 2-hour perfume commercial, but then everyone just stank like the dessert.
Or your friends told the truth and you just don't appreciate cinema without explosions and wisecracking action heroes? This is more cinema and less movie so if you prefer summer blockbusters you'll be bored. Some people said Blade Runner 2049 was boring too and it was an absolute masterpiece that absorbed you into it's world.
Nipzie Cinema is Godfather, Seven, Her, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, etc. This was pure trash, with nothing but exposition, camera shots that lasted too long and obnoxious music from beginning to end.
@@reneelucero2923I disagree that it's trash.
Go watch end game again.
@@reneelucero2923 there is so much more happening than that. Only the brain dead think Dune is long wasted shots.
the film is pure shit. 100's of millions of dollars spent that only served to vindicate George Lynch.
I really approached this movie with a positive attitude.
What a waste of great actors so many times simply trying to strike a pose minimal character development. The dialogue was boring and a copy of a copy of a copy like Star Wars or Lord of the rings.
It had the look of a really, really long perfume commercial. And like any overpriced product tried to get by with special effects and never-ending ominous music. Even though some of the actors are world-class They were given these narrow parameters and the screenplay must’ve been written by a teenager. The only reason I will watch Dune two will be for my son who loves this stuff. I’ll make sure I won’t watch it too late.
I felt so insane.
I thought I had a wrong take?
Like I love the books, and I know the lore. But holy shit this movie was just a crappy film
Thank you
I'd rather watch popcorn pop. Gawd this was disappointing. 🍿
It's a turd covered with gold dust.
I don't like how people totally denounce the 84 movie, the books and the 2001 mini-series in order to hype up the new 2021 version.
At least it was more exciting then this turd.
The SHILL is strong in this one. Warner seems to have hired a Clone Army of UA-cam shills to hype this turd.
84 was an epic fucking movie. People just weren't ready for it so it got chopped to hell and spanked on the way out.
@@stinkfinga4918 facts
Crazy how in line your thoughts were to my own. Utterly baffling how little development was given to characters and the world for 2.5 hour setup film.
True! What a suprise for me how many ppl think that movie was perfect anyway ? Like WTF ?
we know nothing about the characters, we have no reason to sympathize or care about the main character nor his house/faction. for a 2.5 film very little happens., House Atreides given the role to be the custodians of Arrakis, betrayed, not much else. Zzzz. Terrible decision to break the story into such a slow sequencing
@@mountaindewslave Really? I think it’s easy to sympathize with Paul after the death of Leto since the relationship is built up. Also we don’t need to have a connection to House Atreides it’s just a plot device. We only need to care about a few people in House Atreides.
I would say the first scene of the desert is great. But it's the same colors over and over. The same drab interiors. They made Caladan look drab!
The guy who plays Dune is just too skinny and young and kind of superficial looking. The woman who plays Jessica is also too young looking. Her face is small and round like a 12 year old. The woman who plays lyte Keynes said the word sh*it and kind of lapsed into a modern Hollywood or California accent (Although later was fine). Aquaman as Duncan didn't work for me he also has a hip, beer room accent.
Why did Paul disagree with his mother and decide to join the Fremen? Isn't that what the whole movie should have shown us? Instead, it seemed like itbwas just another Conan the Barbarian moment.
15 minutes to the movie and I got bored of Nazis looking for power. Nothing to compare to the old one.
I have not read the books or watched any of the previous movies/series and I think this movie was pretty awful. None of the characters seem to matter, pacing is terrible, the way the movie jumps around is bad etc. There is also no build-up to important moments, no tension of any sorts.
Agreed
100%
It very much felt like the movie had a lot of scenes cut out, based on the weird transitions at times.
1984's DUNE is a masterpiece. 2021's Dune is just a bad joke. Designs were overrated. That bull head??? The ships designs were very unimaginative, except for the dragonflies.
Classic example of blinding nostalgia goggles. What the fuck does overrated designs even mean??
1984’s Dune wasn’t good enough to be called a masterpiece in my opinion. David Lynch’s film gets too much hate whereas Denis Villeneuve’s movie gets too much praise.
I liked both but I would say Denis’ version was better because it was more menacing.
@@TheVagabond627 I think they meant that the designs of the movie were not as good as many people say it is in the reviews
Jose, you are the joke here. The 1984 movie was not Dune. The premise of that movie is the exact opposite of what the Author was telling in the Books. The fact you do not get that is sad and indicative of not having the skills to comprehend.
I also like 1984 version better, loved the art-deco technology.
2021 version started OK but got boring fast, all except the Sadukar scene which was suitably shocking.
It all sucks, terrible adaptation. wouldn't recommend. And it wont be finished, shit is trash.
I thought I was the only one on the planet who did not like this screening of Dune.
Too short, storytelling poor, cinematography all washed out, actors planky, not bad but meh.
There are only 2 things about this movie that are good. 1) The ornithopters look great and are very true to the descriptions in the books. 2) The kid playing Paul looked the right age and had the right build, but his ' sensitive ' hair was ridiculous. Everything else was crap and gave me a headache.
I have never heard of dune until I watched it last night. How many shots of walking and slomo Timothy shots non stop. When they get attacked at the spice planet I literally turned to my friend and said finally something is happening because I had no idea wtf what going on. 15 minutes of Zeneya in slo more is too much
This was the worst movie I’ve seen of 2021…super super super boring. Every other shot was a “flashback or premonition”. Then every other shot was a slo-mo of someone’s face or some random shit like blood dropping from the knife. Then it was so slow on getting to the point. Also so much whispering that half the time I couldn’t even understand what in the actual fuck they were saying.
I saw Dune tonight and I agree on so many things with you. The soundtrack is so loud yet you can't remember if there was a main theme. It is just a perpetual noise. And the main character.... He reminds me of Kristen Stewart in the Twilight Saga, he always has this face "I gonna vomit any second". The cast is quite strange, I don't get Jessica at all. I understand she is some kind of a nun, but I can't decipher her emotions from her body language at all, the two things are completely disjointed. And that flashbacks with Chani... How many times do we need to see her looking over her shoulder? So much time was spent on walking scenes and a friend of mine who did not know the book could not understand the plot because the essential stuff is given in the expositions while the most of the time there's just empty space. Three sentences, three minutes pause, another three sentences, a pause, and so on and so on. I'm 50 and I never felt this old as tonight. I feel I don't understand the modern cinematography at all.
Đes Davore. Nit si mator nit tu ima šta da se razume , film je taraba , prelep vizuelno a i to samo ako voliš betončinu i sivu bojčugu i pesak jedinicu al neke scene zaista jesu neverovatne.Muzika je krš dok gluma i ne postoji. Likovi su svi prazni i zaboravni ,malo Leto i Dankan odskaču i to je to.
Sve u svemu ,jedina dobra stvar iz svega ovog je što će se međunarodna raja zainteresovati više za ozbiljan SF. Meni je ipak bio okej film kad podvučem crtu jer onakve prizore do sad nismo imali priliku videti.
Vilnev je takav , radi sam svoje scenarije i jbg ,nije neki scenarist i dramaturg. Ostaje mu drugi deo da se izvuče.
I want to add something: couple of days after the viewing I had flashbacks and I realised I didn't hate Dune that much. Who knows, maybe someone will make a shortened, edited version? This is one of the rare times I wish the studio intervened and cut the bloody thing to something watchable
Im 16 and i didn't like the cinematography either. Villeneuve's most films are like these. Less creative shots and more aesthetic shots
I have watched the David Lynch flick like probably between 25 to 50 times, same with the miniseries. I hated both of the new movies, except for the visual feast of it all is terrific!
I can not escape into these movies at all whatsoever. These movies are just cardboard non-experiences. If you had some crazy D.J. putting some crazy music, sound effects, and dialog excerpts from the David Lynch film and the miniseries you could make better use of the cinematography, than this pile of bore n snor.
I swear it feels like almost all modern stories/scripts are AI written
Edit: Before watching this vid I watched 84 for the first time.
I cannot overstate how much better of a film that is compared to 21 as someone who doesn't know the source material.
It's night and day.
The ONLY thing 21 does better is vfx and that is absolutely not worth all the detriment. Every single other facet it gets trounced by 84.
I'm going to check out the mini-series too