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I think they cast Christopher walken as a reference to the Fatboy slim song "weapon of choice" where he dances in the music video, the song references the books, "if you walk without rhythm, you won't attract the worm".
I wanted to mention this when you where streaming, but I left before I had the chance. . there are more than one version of the 1984 Dune with a diffident less interesting opening. Using pictures and a narrator. It isn't particularly interesting other than cool robot pictures at the time. Essentially it is the same spiel about the two religious sects. Also there is the miniseries Children of Dune that also goes through the same parts Of the normal Dune movies with more of what happens with the alliance of the Emperor and the Harkonnen. It also pushes in to later areas with Paul's children and his sister grow older and from stronger connections with those religious forces. [Potential Ambiguous spoiler here because I haven't watched the new part 2: But a guy that did.. something comes back and dose something and has a more tragic something happen...] Foreshadowing is apparent all over the Dune story. I suggest just one watch of Children of Dune. It may clear up some of the reasons why things happen. But I wouldn't call it good. Cheep CG and what not.
Pretty much had very similar thoughts about the first and also about the 2nd movie. Glad you had similar opinions. Also preferred the 2nd movie quite a bit. I wouldn't mind rewatching the 2nd one, but definitely don't wanna rewatch the first one.
@@OniSamaGin There were two miniseries. The first was just Frank Herbert's Dune, the second was Children of Dune which was a sequel to the first. Normally that would be nitpicking, but the two are listed and sold separately. Someone getting the Children of Dune one wouldn't find the first story within.
Hey Adum! I’m sure you’ll never see this but I was the theatre employee who recognized you when you watched Dune 2. You were super nice and chill and I want to thank you for making my interaction with you a very positive one! Thank you for letting me take a selfie with you and I’m glad you enjoyed the film!
"The way your father saw it, that spice was your birthright; he'd be damned if some Harkonnen was gonna put his pasty white hands on it. So he hid it, in the only place he knew he could; his ass"
6:30 when I saw this movie the whole audience burst out laughing at that part where Paul says "I'm not the messiah" and Stilgar insists "see how humble he is, he must be the messiah"
@@DirkMcThermot Christopher’s character was the emperor of the galaxy and known for killing anyone that he may have a hunch that might pose a threat to him, so it kinda makes sense that he wouldn’t be telling jokes
I want a Dune film where the narrator keeps coming back randomly, stopping the film saying she forgot something, and leaving again for another unspecified amount of time before coming back again
There were like 2 or 3 shots that were noticeable, the rest were very well made. But we were spoiled by BR 2049. That movie has perfect CGI. I was convinced they got a Sean Young doppelganger until I saw the BTS. And all the Joi scenes... Outstanding effects.
Some of the shots are clearly more polished than others. It's something I noticed revisiting it after seeing Part Two. Some texture details are really unfinished.
the thing is, sometimes bad CGI are unavoidable because we don't see those things IRL. I've seen some photographs that look fake, but they weren't fake or edited. edit: for example, check out photos of Blue Mountains of Niger! that place looks like unfinished CGI.
@@michellesiregar8245 I think about this with games too, the way lighting and shadows look irl I often think would be criticized as unrealistic if in a game or animated film. But ultimately the goal of special effects isn't to look accurate to life, only to look right enough to our ape brains for us not to think about it.
I like when Dune said its Dunin time and Duned all over everyone hahahahaha so original and soooo funny hahahaha *starts crying while reevaluating all of my terrible life choices*
Hey Adum! Im sure you’ll never see this but I was the theater employee who urinated in your popcorn. You are the first guest who has asked me for this but now everyone does since they know me as the piss guy. Just wanted to thank you for that.
Personally i love the slow pacing. It gives a lot of time for us to see the cultures developed and to see how the fake prophecies influence them. Dune is not about the epic battles, but about people being deceived by prophecy. I dont think I would get that if the film went any faster.
AMEN! Dune pt.1 and Dune 1984 just do it for me with a majority of the film are people discussing the future of the prophecy. Dune pt. 2 was meh. Think there was too much Zendaya and Butler's character was just too cartoonish for me.
I think when Adum talks about slow pacing he's not complaining about too much background detail. There are just too many shots that are useless, that aren't informative or especially stylish, used to pad out the scenes.
My toes curled when he wrote it off as being a "Star Wars type movie" - it'd be like calling LotR an "Honor Among Thieves" type movie. They might have similar settings but there's a difference between a thoughtful, well-written epic like LotR or Dune vs crowd-pleasing shlock
Way too much time spent on a romance with negative chemistry though. The woman playing Chani has barely two emotions, with the primary one being vague constipation. At no time did it ever feel like the Fremen were in danger other than the attack on Paul's tribe by Feyd.
I also have never consumed any Dune media before the Villeneuve films and I found them very easy to follow along and I thought the slow pacing really helped me get into the universe. I was pretty damn hooked for all 5 hours.
I personally also felt Timothee felt flat in the first movie, but goddamn if he didn't own the last part in the 2nd movie! The entire personality shift was really well done imo, and he really seemed like a crazed jihad lunatic just using everyone, loved it!
@@Bob-t4g7w for a part of the first book he avoids being a Messiah however he basically gives up when he rides the giant worm once he realizes that is either that or never getting his throne so he says "Fuck it let the legend be born" and dune'd all over that poor worm back
@@Bob-t4g7w His character is both that he tries to resist going down that path while also knowing he can't avoid it entirely - so he ends up in an awkward, half-baked compromise where he reduced the death and violence slightly, but still become universal dictator in charge of a fanatic religious order of zealots who would die for him, who he is consciously manipulating. Which, spoilers for the later books: is basically the worst of both worlds, since the jihad still happens, but because Paul pumped the breaks a little he no longer fulfilled the Golden Path, so the ends which were suppose to justify the means will no longer be realised (at least by his own life and actions, that is...).
Adum must have the best eye for cgi, cause even part 1 looked amazing to me and I was always immersed and never taken out by thinking anything looked super computer generated. Edit: I did forget about the scene where his helmet comes up. I remember that sticking out like a sore thumb.
It was that shot where the helmet opens and you see tim's face that looked uncanny valley, and maybe the textures on the carryall's balloons also looked unpolished, other than that the visuals were excellent
I don't think so, I think it's some sort of misinterpretation of what he's seeing. Dune 1, when it came out, was the most visually advanced movie to date in terms of the quality of the visuals and CGI.
So there actually is an in-universe reason why those 2 guys have the same goofy eyebrows in Dune 1984, I don’t think they ever say it in the film but both of those guys are whats called a Mentat. Basically they are trained to be human computers, they drink this weird juice that stains their lips, and for some reason the costume designer thought they should also have fuzzy eyebrows lmao
It's weird how un-explained Mentats are in either film. If you're a book reader you can pick up on it and realise that the identifiable trait is what marks them (in the new movies it's the dark line from their bottom lip to their chin), but for non-book readers they're just funny looking space people and don't give the impression of basically being biological super computers.
There’s no explanation for the eyebrows other than just a visual signifier. Nor is there an explanation for the Atreides battle pugs, or the milk from the cat with a rat attached it. Man, Lynch’s Dune is really bugnuts crazy. I love it. It would never ever happen in a million years, but I would love to see a David Lynch adaptation of the later books in the series. They start getting reeeallly weird from basically book 4 onwards.
at least hodorowski had a vision denis literally can't make a movie. or more like two movies because he makes the same crap no matter the script everything he touches is the same crap like king turdas with turden touch nolan has more range than that
Yeah and the bag people are the Spacing Guild and those creatures Adum seemed to be confused by are the Guild Navigators. I don't blame Adum for not knowing as the modern adaptation barely touches on them. But they are actually super important to the plot as they're the whole reason spice is needed in the first place. The spice must flow.
@@ThreadBombThe spice is basically the source of Paul's most powerful ability, and we see the immensity of his power, so I don't think the audiences would struggle with understanding why it would be valuable. I've definitely noticed far more book readers having an issue with it not being explained than first-time viewers.
@@JT-cx2ev But he's presenting a point that challenges the perception of the regular viewer. "Wait was the cgi bad?" some may ask while hearing him. But sometimes it seems as he randomly finds things deficient with no actual consistency.
Paul’s personality in the book, being so controlling and confident, contrasts so much with his physical presence as a 15 year old teenager. That makes it really hard to cast well. You have to have him either look believably teenage OR have the commanding domineering aura. Dune 1984 went for aura, New Dune goes for looks.
Yeah I have yet to see the second film yet, but from the first one my impression of the casting is that he looks wayyy too boyish and innocent to play Paul. Plus I really hate the haircut, it's one that emphasizes aesthetic over practicality - at least they could have had him shave it once he integrates into the Fremens, IMO. But Adum praised his transformation near the end of the film so I'm holding off on final judgement, perhaps he really does pull it off ultimately.
@@castrelspirit Just saw it, I still think he wasn't the perfect cast for the lead but Chalamet's "stage presence" was significantly better in this one. Not sure how much of it was Chalamet growing into his role (the haircut didn't bother me now, even though I still wish it was different), Villeneuve just pulling off the adaptation process better now, or the second half of the book lending itself MUCH better to the format of film - probably some combination of all three. Paul having much more to do - both in terms of action and characterization - was a very big boon. In the first half of the story he's very much a passive actor in the plot. The first film probably would have been better if they did something bold like refocusing the PoV and treating Duke Leto as the main character (up until Paul needs to escape the invasion, of course). Would allow Paul's character to be established on the sidelines while he's still just an untested boy without it making the plot stumble, and Oscar Isaac did a great job in the role of the Duke already, much better stage charisma than Chalamet in the first film.
I dont like how people just praise his presense and hide behind memes. He was dragging the movie down. He was totally miscast. I wish it was someone else and at very least middleaged to keep some of the point of him looking half his age in the books. Jude Law someone else about his age would be much better.
I was pretty mind blown when he said he CGI in part 1 was distracting. I was incredibly impressed with the CGI, I thought it was the most well excecuted CGI I have ever seen. Interesting.
i think some scenes had to be changed late in the process so they weren't quite up to par. But overall the cgi was great and it didn't bother me at all.
@@towelzz9873 Because Adam is an actual critic and the Oscars are not. You watch this channel, right? How are you not aware of this? I personally didn't notice any of the issues with part 1 CGI, but that's more because I wasn't paying attention to them so much as something else in the scene. If I actually look at them, yeah, they're not on par with the rest of the visuals. Adam's not wrong, it's just I don't think the CGI was an issue for anyone except those both familiar with visual effects and those who are looking for it.
Same feeling I got lol. I get why most people prefer the modern version. To me, Lynch's feels much more uncomfortable and strange to watch, which adds to the alien world. But this is a very specific taste that I know a lot of people don't share.
Wait, but you said that you hadn't been exposed to any Dune related media until Dune Pt 1 (2022), but also had review on Jodorowsky's Dune nine years ago. Which is it Adumb? GOTEEM
@@deusexmachina9776I heard about that documentary and never heard of the franchise either aside from it influencing sci-fi. Some really overestimate how mainstream Dune really was before Part 1 came out. Like the last major production anyone talked about was nearly forty years ago when that movie came out. And exactly forty when Part 2 was released. A Scifi Channel mini series (with Paul literally dressed like the Karate Kid and a young James McAvoy. Look it up. Paul and the Spacing Guild are hilarious.) and a few references in cartoons around the same time isn’t mainstream. It took a few more attempts by other studios until Denis Villeneuve got it off the ground. I’m just glad WB didn’t sabotage it like Disney did with John Carter.
I'm a huge fan of David Lynch's Dune, it functions really well as a B-movie, especially if you already know the plot they're telling (although it's not necessary). The soundtrack was done by Toto (yes, the group that made "Africa") and the production history is just a trainwreck. This film is a major reason why David Lynch now hates science fiction and demands final cut on his films. David Lynch originally wanted to make the film 4 hours long, but the studio stopped filming before they could finish and just patched the footage together, which is why the last act is .. like that. It also makes it a lot funnier any time there's just narration over B-roll because they just didn't have footage for those plot points. For any David Lynch or even Twin Peaks fans: this is the project where David Lynch met Kyle McLaughlin (whom he thought was perfect for the role ... I don't know how). Also the "garbage bag people" are wearing modified body bags that the production team cleaned and used as materials before use. The behind the scenes are fascinating on this film, and I find they make the experience a lot more enjoyable since you can squint and see what they were going for (the villain's death is also hilarious). Would highly recommend David Lynch's Dune, I've seen it 12 times and can't see myself slowing down any time soon.
If you like the Lynch film and you can find it, the fan edit Dune Alternative Edition Redux is well worth a look, either the original version or the recent 1080p update.
Dune part 2 is the definition of the word Epic. It's worth seeing in the biggest screen possible more so than whatever the fuck ghostbusters frozen empire is
Thats what i love about YMS, he is not a blind fanboy. Both Dune 1 and 2 are good action movies, nothing groundbreaking. Compared to other action movies(mcu movies for example) Dune is much better, but still it has lots of nonsense.
when i started laughing at irulun's floating exposition head on my first watch of '84 Dune, my partner yelled from the other room "DID YOU GET TO STING'S KNIFE FIGHT?" which is how i learned that Sting was in '84 Dune
Just watched Lynch's Dune for the first time this week and I have to say - the corniness is VERY endearing to me. While I don't think it's a good movie by any stretch of the imagination, I had a BLAST watching it and will probably revisit it more than I do Villeneuve's films.
FYI, David Lynch disowned the 1984 film after the producers made their own changes in the final cut. The TV edit is credited to director Alan Smithee, and the script, credited to Lynch in the original, is credited to a pseudonym, "Judas Booth". Whether or not it's really his, as opposed to that of producer Dino De Laurentiis, or someone else entirely, would probably require a good look at production notes that are unlikely to ever see the light of day. I think it's fair to say it's less "his movie" than Eraserhead, Blue Velvet, or Wild at Heart.
I can’t believe he forgot to mention the epic soundtrack of the David Lynch film was made by rock band Toto. Yes, the band who played Africa. Truly inspired
I really liked Dune Part 1, but I totally understand people's criticisms of it. I think part of the pacing issues comes from the fact that the movie's structure is nothing but setup for Part 2. They were also very faithful to the book. They didn't create any original characters or make up any side plots to make the first movie actually feel complete, and I'm really grateful for that. I do agree that the ideal experience would be a single movie, 4 hours is a little too short for me. 4.5-4.75 hours maybe. I just enjoy being in that world so much that I honestly struggle with trimming it down. That's me, though.
yeah I honestly dont see how it could be trimmed down any more than it already was. I know it would be a lot for people to take in one sitting but it needs that run time
i think the scale of some of the cg objects is so massive that people reactively think it looks unrealistic when really imo people have trouble suspending their disbelief enough to see that the ships etc. are beautifully and accurately rendered and are just overwhelming in the detail they suggest
The spicediver cut of Lynch's Dune is kind of good I won't lie. Like it's still got all of the cheese but the extra 40 really fleshes out some of the character relationships and that tacky ass ending gets fixed to be a little more menacing!
congrats Adum, I give you the award for being the first person i've ever seen on youtube who can actually pronounce Dennis Villeneuve's name correctly.
I am glad someone else thought the same thing. CHRISTOPHER WALKEN?? I really enjoyed the movie but that took me completely out of it whenever he was on screen.
Had the same reaction to Anya Taylor-Joy. I already just saw her as Furiosa in the previews, and now I'm expected to just buy that she's also a character in Dune? It just doesn't work.
@@stonecrestcounty342that may be, doesn’t change the fact that his cultural role is extremely well established at this point. You act like he’d have trouble finding other serious roles if he didn’t have this specific sci-fi emperor job
The way you described the first Dune is the way I remember it from watching it when it came out. But rewatching it now and I must say, it flows like spice. One smooth continuous waving resulted in quite ecstatic resonations at times. I wasn't bored because the whole time my mind was occupied by trying to make sense of the world of Dune and peace together motivations of characters, I like puzzles and for me, it was very delightful. And all the sounds and visuals and designs were just a blessing. Also love the mom representation in a movie, don't often you get to see a positive illustration of mother-son relationships.
10:59 Alongside random weird Lynchian things, Toto's soundtrack is what kept 84's Dune in my heart all these decades. Don't care about the inaccuracies to source or how aged the effects may be, the grandiosity and nerdiness of prog rock sensibilities is the most fitting accompaniment to space operas and planetary romances. Graeme Revell and Hans Zimmer really had no chance, especially with the sort of irony that is inherent in having the band that blessed the rains in Africa tackling a universe where rain is a socio-economic apocalypse.
I guess you already aware of this, but David Lynch was in a lot of fight with the hollywood over this film, and they changed a lot of things he didn't want to. There's a reason why he never want to talk about the movie or barely even recognize it. To my undersanding, he wanted to do more, but neither the budget or the time allowed him along with the pressure from the hollywood. So in the end, he just said, f*ck this, completed the movie and then never worked with hollywood again after that.
I watched Dune 1984 because I loved Dune 2 so much that it made me curious because it’s a somewhat running joke in RedLetterMedia content that Dune 1984 is a nightmare to watch. I watched it high with friends and it was a lot of fun. My friends who were familiar with the books did have some praise for it though. They claim that the Harkonenns in the new movies capture the intimidation and power they represent but fail to showcase their depravity and disgustingness which the David Lynch movie does much better.
One thing i have noticed about the dune movies is why it gpt its title as an unfilmable film. Spoliers for dune 1 but when paul is threatened with the gom jabar, Jessica sights phrases from the fear speech which makes sense from a show don't tell perspective but dune has always been a tell dont show story. Where the plot that is happeneing in front of you is not important but the context it has within the story is. This has always made the books both complicated and wordy, which doesn't translate well. However, i felt that the palm tree scene perfectly embodied how dune should be filmed. With a lot more nuance to their conversation. Dune strikes me as a game of thrones situation where it gets critical praise until it decides to do something away from the source material and stumbles.
Denis talks about how he doesn’t like dialogue and likes film to be as visual as possible - which is quite literally the opposite of what the books are. It’s all talking and almost no visual descriptions. It’s an odd contradiction that I think works surprisingly well but still leaves a lot to be desired for some fans of the book.
@@URBONEDi absolutly agree and overall i think that for those just enjoying the visuals of the film thats all thats needed. however like the change to the mentats having a tattoo instead of the stains again misses the point of spice and its addictive nature. an its never properlly adressed as a change so it feels like it lacks any weight beyond asthetics. where as the book uses what few discriptions it gives to make a point about the over all story. its those changes that on the surface seem small but change a lot of the context of the overall story that i feel need somthing like an internal monolouge or maybe subtitles for thoughts.
My uncle and I arrived much earlier than expected and had an hour wait for Dune 2. We had thoroughly overeaten as well, when we finally got in and I realized our seats reclined I was like oh shit we're both gonna fall asleep guaranteed. But nope the movie was so exciting we both perked right back up. The moving cover scene was the best one.
@11:47 David Lynch decided that the Eyes of Ibad should be expanded and gave each aspect of dune their own facial recognizer. The Bene Gesserit are all bald, the Harkonens all were ginger and gross, idk why they didn't go with the stained lips of the Mentats from the book (you can see they kinda tried) but they landed on big bushy eyebrows. Still silly, but that's why they did it.
I hate when for movies like this when you say "i didn't understand that part" people will say "well you haven't read the books." These are completely different mediums and they should stand on their own. If the movie is supposed to be supplemental to the book or vice versa, you might as well just put that in the title.
For real, my biggest complaint with Dune part 2 was; SPOILERS: When Chani somehow revived Paul with her tears?! It was so out of left field and was not explained AT ALL prior to it, everyone around her just went "Just as the written!!" etc. but it was just so stupid. Not to mention Chani/Zendaya looking annoyed the entire movie, I could never get it out of my mind if someone on set made a bad joke everytime she appeared on screen, she was literally angry the entire way through lmfao
I understand that criticism but it doesn’t apply to these movies. They tell you everything you need to know for the story they are telling, or what they leave open to interpretation like how Paul’s visions are communicated in Part 1. I’ve seen some criticisms of part 2 that are addressed in the movie, which makes me wonder if people actually watch what is in front of them.
If you want a good version of Dune under five hours, maybe you’d like the Syfy miniseries? The costumes and effects are funny-bad, but the story is excellent. There is an extended version of the miniseries that I have trouble hunting down, which is different from the uncensored version, which is actually cut down. Yes, it is very annoying to find in good quality online (presuming you don’t want to watch it on the UA-cam freeboot)
I tried it and made it 30 minutes into the first episode. Made the worst parts of the Star Wars prequels look like pure poetry 😅 I respect that fans of the novel get something out of it though.
Dune: Part One - watched the first 1/2 hour and was bored. It had no energy. Dune: Part Two - watched the first 1/2 hour - visuals were good - had no interest in following the character's - Timothy as Paul just leaves my scratching my head. Zendaya has no screen presence. Dune 1984 - flawed but great visuals and memorable moments.
Fair criticism. I'm a mega Dune fanboy and I think your perspective is good to hear, especially from someone who isn't bought into the universe of it. I had much the same disappointment with the first movie, and saw it as serviceable to the book rather than a cinema spectacle. Your complaint of run time is also going to be at odds with soy boys like me who would be mad if they left out information that we saw as crucial to the _L O R E_ . I think Denis was just playing it safe with the first movie, just making a profitable/well reviewed enough movie to get something like this made, where he could take more chances with the cinematography and tone. Plus, with at least three more books in the series that he could adapt, he needs to build it up a bit in order to attract and maintain an audience so that he can make a couple more movies at this same quality. Fingers crossed for Villeneuve, if he can't do it no one can.
Denis only wants to do Messiah as he has said as that is the end of Paul's story I think. If we do get Children of Dune it would be a different director.
As a fellow book fan, I enjoyed Part 1 a lot but can also understand why non-book-readers would be less positive about it. Mainly I just feel like Dune is un-adaptable, but the first movie did about as well as I could expect any movie to do when adapting the first half of the book. So it exceeded my expectations, and really just functions as a visual supplement to the book. Haven't seen the second movie yet, but I'm not surprised that non-book readers are liking it more than the first film, as it's the part with more action (not just physical action, but actual plot movement) and a more structured, focused narrative - as opposed to part 1 which is mainly all about laying the groundwork for the story, building up the world, etc.
@@phothewin6019 Earlier Ridley Scott, maybe. Modern Ridley Scott? Hell no. There's one director I thought could do it as well as Villeneuve has, but I can't remember who it was.
The David Lynch version is a guilty pleasure, or perhaps nostalgia fuel, for some of us. It's charming, yet the score makes it epic at the same time. A weird but potent combination. I know Lynch didn't like what they did to it in the edit, but I still find it his most approachable and re-watchable film that I've seen so far, if not the most competent (probably mostly because of the edits the studio did). I'm glad you watched it and enjoyed it, there is a fan edit out there you might be curious about - it brings it to just under three hours.
The bit about Christopher Walken being Emperor - I feel like that about every movie that Leonardo Dicaprio has been in since The Basketball Diaries and Total Eclipse
"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain." Frank Herbert, Dune
I had to stop the video just before 4 minutes.. I didn't want to pick up your lack of enthusiasm for the project. To each their own. I didn't agree with almost anything you said yet about this franchise. I thought the first was extremely boring and spent too much time story building however after dune 2 I rewatched part 1 and I appreciated it a lot more. What a beautiful couple of films so far. Dune 2 might be my favourite movie ever, and like you I never knew anything about this movie until about 2 months ago. Thanks for the review tho!
I loved this movie but I don't understand how they're going to adapt the next book, they left out so many important plot points. They're going to have to do a lot of retconning but I trust the director
the first film clicked with me after seeing part two, knowing some more lore, and seeing the first again with a little helping of something magic. i think they nailed it.
This guy watch 2 Dune Movies and he can't remember the main villains name is Baron Vladimir Harkonnen. Hell he could have just remembered Baron Harkonnen or the fat Harkonnen. I get he hasn't read the book but at least remembered characters names from the 2 movie you watched with the exact same characters
plus a little of "I didn't have big dramatic scenes2 he doesnt like that sort of thing, even in more personal emotional films he likes there a big blowout scene or big controversial scene
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I think they cast Christopher walken as a reference to the Fatboy slim song "weapon of choice" where he dances in the music video, the song references the books, "if you walk without rhythm, you won't attract the worm".
I wanted to mention this when you where streaming, but I left before I had the chance. . there are more than one version of the 1984 Dune with a diffident less interesting opening. Using pictures and a narrator. It isn't particularly interesting other than cool robot pictures at the time. Essentially it is the same spiel about the two religious sects.
Also there is the miniseries Children of Dune that also goes through the same parts Of the normal Dune movies with more of what happens with the alliance of the Emperor and the Harkonnen. It also pushes in to later areas with Paul's children and his sister grow older and from stronger connections with those religious forces.
[Potential Ambiguous spoiler here because I haven't watched the new part 2: But a guy that did.. something comes back and dose something and has a more tragic something happen...]
Foreshadowing is apparent all over the Dune story. I suggest just one watch of Children of Dune. It may clear up some of the reasons why things happen. But I wouldn't call it good. Cheep CG and what not.
Pretty much had very similar thoughts about the first and also about the 2nd movie. Glad you had similar opinions.
Also preferred the 2nd movie quite a bit. I wouldn't mind rewatching the 2nd one, but definitely don't wanna rewatch the first one.
@@OniSamaGin
There were two miniseries. The first was just Frank Herbert's Dune, the second was Children of Dune which was a sequel to the first.
Normally that would be nitpicking, but the two are listed and sold separately. Someone getting the Children of Dune one wouldn't find the first story within.
Hey Adum! I’m sure you’ll never see this but I was the theatre employee who recognized you when you watched Dune 2. You were super nice and chill and I want to thank you for making my interaction with you a very positive one! Thank you for letting me take a selfie with you and I’m glad you enjoyed the film!
Wholesome af lfg champ
Cool ❤
I give this interaction a 10/10
That's so cool
What rating would you give the interaction?
"The way your father saw it, that spice was your birthright; he'd be damned if some Harkonnen was gonna put his pasty white hands on it. So he hid it, in the only place he knew he could; his ass"
Underrated comment, man, lmao!
I couldn't stop thinking about that the moment I saw Christopher Walken.
I have a fever and the only prescription... Is more spice!
Are you still a marine
"Well I'm a fan of some of his movies: *cites basically all his movies*"
He didn’t cite Godzilla king of the monsters
Nvm I got him mixed with someone else
@@HectorLopez0217 not a Denis Villeneuve movie??
@@goodial I remember when Adam was on a podcast saying the movie wasn’t going to be good which is true if you’re not a Godzilla fan already
@@goodial Could've sworn it was. Had all of his trademark qualities.
@@phothewin6019 Excluding the main one: Being a good movie.
6:30 when I saw this movie the whole audience burst out laughing at that part where Paul says "I'm not the messiah" and Stilgar insists "see how humble he is, he must be the messiah"
Very pythonesque
Stilgar was funnier than I would expect in this film
He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy.
Key difference being that scene was clearly intended comedically, but none of Christopher Walken's scenes were.
@@DirkMcThermot
Christopher’s character was the emperor of the galaxy and known for killing anyone that he may have a hunch that might pose a threat to him, so it kinda makes sense that he wouldn’t be telling jokes
I want a Dune film where the narrator keeps coming back randomly, stopping the film saying she forgot something, and leaving again for another unspecified amount of time before coming back again
So Emperor's New Groove but Dune?
That's kind of how the book is like
Watch the lynch version
Or excerpts from in universe histories that spoil the whole plot
@@moldman5694Emperor's New Dune
Probably the most controversial statement of the entire video for me was him saying the cgi in part 1 was unconvincing.
There were like 2 or 3 shots that were noticeable, the rest were very well made.
But we were spoiled by BR 2049. That movie has perfect CGI. I was convinced they got a Sean Young doppelganger until I saw the BTS. And all the Joi scenes... Outstanding effects.
Some of the shots are clearly more polished than others. It's something I noticed revisiting it after seeing Part Two. Some texture details are really unfinished.
the thing is, sometimes bad CGI are unavoidable because we don't see those things IRL. I've seen some photographs that look fake, but they weren't fake or edited.
edit: for example, check out photos of Blue Mountains of Niger! that place looks like unfinished CGI.
@@michellesiregar8245blue mountains of n word
@@michellesiregar8245 I think about this with games too, the way lighting and shadows look irl I often think would be criticized as unrealistic if in a game or animated film. But ultimately the goal of special effects isn't to look accurate to life, only to look right enough to our ape brains for us not to think about it.
I loved when paul ordered the dune popcorn bucket and filled it with the waters of life,classic
When Mr. Dune said: "what are you dune in my swamp" I cried
Who up duning they thang rn
My favorite line from the Dune in question
I hate how they made Lord Farquaad fat and bald in this movie.
I liked when the Scottish character said, "Quick! Get Dune, or they'll see ya!" while the bad guy was creeping by
I like when Dune said its Dunin time and Duned all over everyone hahahahaha so original and soooo funny hahahaha *starts crying while reevaluating all of my terrible life choices*
Every time I saw Christopher Walken I was imagining him saying:
" I got a fever and the only prescription is more spice melange!"
"The spice....is gonna break!"
Was waiting for Cow Bells 🎉🎉🎉
Paul: "Kiss my ring"
Emperor: "...no"
Paul: "Why not?"
Emperor: "I don't want to"
“Walk without rhythm, and it won’t attract the worm.”
@@Wired4Life2 I am now convinced the only reason they cast Christopher Walken in Dune was because of that Weapon of Choice music video.
Hey Adum! Im sure you’ll never see this but I was the theater employee who urinated in your popcorn. You are the first guest who has asked me for this but now everyone does since they know me as the piss guy. Just wanted to thank you for that.
Was it the promotional Sandworm bucket of popcorn?
@@jonbaxter2254 Was the piss blue?
The Piss Must Flow.
LOL KAMIIIIIIIIII LOL
*talks about all the bad CGI in Dune
*me looking at the shots: “uhhhh what?”
His mention of green screen effects for part 1 is fair but yeah the CGI was pretty great in both and especially part 2
yeah, I don't get it. The only bad CGI moment is the scene where they were filling up the giant baloon to fly the spice harvester machine.
@@michellesiregar8245that was literally the only moment where I was like, "oh damn, the Harkonnens left behind some faulty CGI, too, I guess."
Yeah I can see what he's talking about with unconvincing animations, but I really didn't mind them at all
@@michellesiregar8245that's like the only part that's weird, but at the same time I couldn't think of any right way to animate that
Personally i love the slow pacing. It gives a lot of time for us to see the cultures developed and to see how the fake prophecies influence them. Dune is not about the epic battles, but about people being deceived by prophecy. I dont think I would get that if the film went any faster.
AMEN! Dune pt.1 and Dune 1984 just do it for me with a majority of the film are people discussing the future of the prophecy. Dune pt. 2 was meh. Think there was too much Zendaya and Butler's character was just too cartoonish for me.
I think when Adum talks about slow pacing he's not complaining about too much background detail. There are just too many shots that are useless, that aren't informative or especially stylish, used to pad out the scenes.
My toes curled when he wrote it off as being a "Star Wars type movie" - it'd be like calling LotR an "Honor Among Thieves" type movie. They might have similar settings but there's a difference between a thoughtful, well-written epic like LotR or Dune vs crowd-pleasing shlock
Way too much time spent on a romance with negative chemistry though. The woman playing Chani has barely two emotions, with the primary one being vague constipation. At no time did it ever feel like the Fremen were in danger other than the attack on Paul's tribe by Feyd.
I also have never consumed any Dune media before the Villeneuve films and I found them very easy to follow along and I thought the slow pacing really helped me get into the universe. I was pretty damn hooked for all 5 hours.
I personally also felt Timothee felt flat in the first movie, but goddamn if he didn't own the last part in the 2nd movie! The entire personality shift was really well done imo, and he really seemed like a crazed jihad lunatic just using everyone, loved it!
Thats not what Paul's character is, the whole point of his character is he wants to do everything he can to not be that.
@@Bob-t4g7w for a part of the first book he avoids being a Messiah however he basically gives up when he rides the giant worm once he realizes that is either that or never getting his throne so he says "Fuck it let the legend be born" and dune'd all over that poor worm back
@@Bob-t4g7w His character is both that he tries to resist going down that path while also knowing he can't avoid it entirely - so he ends up in an awkward, half-baked compromise where he reduced the death and violence slightly, but still become universal dictator in charge of a fanatic religious order of zealots who would die for him, who he is consciously manipulating.
Which, spoilers for the later books: is basically the worst of both worlds, since the jihad still happens, but because Paul pumped the breaks a little he no longer fulfilled the Golden Path, so the ends which were suppose to justify the means will no longer be realised (at least by his own life and actions, that is...).
@@LoudWafflenow if only he became a worm…
@@Bob-t4g7w yeah, up until some point then he shifts
Adum must have the best eye for cgi, cause even part 1 looked amazing to me and I was always immersed and never taken out by thinking anything looked super computer generated.
Edit: I did forget about the scene where his helmet comes up. I remember that sticking out like a sore thumb.
It was that shot where the helmet opens and you see tim's face that looked uncanny valley, and maybe the textures on the carryall's balloons also looked unpolished, other than that the visuals were excellent
I don't think so, I think it's some sort of misinterpretation of what he's seeing. Dune 1, when it came out, was the most visually advanced movie to date in terms of the quality of the visuals and CGI.
Nah I wouldn’t say it’s a best eye for CGI that’s kind of silly and ridiculous. He just makes things really hard to please him
No. His eye is sometimes inconsistent.
Honestly I have no idea what Adam is talking about because dune part 1 overall has some of the most believable vfx in any modern movie.
So there actually is an in-universe reason why those 2 guys have the same goofy eyebrows in Dune 1984, I don’t think they ever say it in the film but both of those guys are whats called a Mentat. Basically they are trained to be human computers, they drink this weird juice that stains their lips, and for some reason the costume designer thought they should also have fuzzy eyebrows lmao
because giant eyebrows look weird and David Lynch
It's weird how un-explained Mentats are in either film. If you're a book reader you can pick up on it and realise that the identifiable trait is what marks them (in the new movies it's the dark line from their bottom lip to their chin), but for non-book readers they're just funny looking space people and don't give the impression of basically being biological super computers.
There’s no explanation for the eyebrows other than just a visual signifier. Nor is there an explanation for the Atreides battle pugs, or the milk from the cat with a rat attached it.
Man, Lynch’s Dune is really bugnuts crazy. I love it. It would never ever happen in a million years, but I would love to see a David Lynch adaptation of the later books in the series. They start getting reeeallly weird from basically book 4 onwards.
As someone who is reading the book and hasn't watched the movie THEY HAVEN'T EXPLAINED MENTATS? wtf
@@thomasshuck3923 True, Lynch’s style would be a perfect fit for God Emperor lol
If this movie were called "The Holy Dune" and actually directed by Jodorowsky you would've given it a 10/10
lmao
at least hodorowski had a vision
denis literally can't make a movie. or more like two movies because he makes the same crap no matter the script everything he touches is the same crap like king turdas with turden touch
nolan has more range than that
@@tsartomatodamn what did Denis do to you personally?
@@shpadoinkleday
Ruined dune
Made some bad movies i paid for tickets for
Bad artist
@@tsartomatoYou forgot to mention how each of his movies makes you want the last 3 looong hours of your life back when you make it to the end.
The eyebrows show that they're "mentats", same as the lip tattoos in Villeneuve's Part One
Yeah and the bag people are the Spacing Guild and those creatures Adum seemed to be confused by are the Guild Navigators. I don't blame Adum for not knowing as the modern adaptation barely touches on them. But they are actually super important to the plot as they're the whole reason spice is needed in the first place. The spice must flow.
@@dragonrings14 The new movies have told the audience virtually nothing about spice except that it inspires visions and makes you kind of psychic.
@@ThreadBombThe spice is basically the source of Paul's most powerful ability, and we see the immensity of his power, so I don't think the audiences would struggle with understanding why it would be valuable. I've definitely noticed far more book readers having an issue with it not being explained than first-time viewers.
@@ThreadBomb Its a massive failure of the film that the driving force of the entire plot is not even mentioned.
@@ThreadBombwhat? There is a whole sequence where the spice is introduced and how important it is for the galaxy
A Dunis Movie
A very duney movie
If this movie were called "Dunedoche, New York", Adum would have given it a 10/10.
Synechdunis, New York
Dunis Villeneuve.
Dunnarse VillainNewWavey
Very odd cgi criticism ngl
Nah the shields could definitely look better and I noticed some of the sand effects could have been better
Yeah it feels like hating for the sake of hating.
I think he was just bored and didn't wanna say that
@@66something_77 He did say he was bored though.
He hates literally every movie he's ever seen
How he can watch a movie like Dune and somehow find an issue with the special effects is completely beyond me.
Just Adum shenanigans
The balloons that inflate on the carrier did stick out to me as bad when I watched it. But that was literally it. Everything else looked really great!
He explained it pretty clearly, he's not personally attacking you by saying that.
autism...
@@JT-cx2ev But he's presenting a point that challenges the perception of the regular viewer. "Wait was the cgi bad?" some may ask while hearing him. But sometimes it seems as he randomly finds things deficient with no actual consistency.
Paul’s personality in the book, being so controlling and confident, contrasts so much with his physical presence as a 15 year old teenager. That makes it really hard to cast well. You have to have him either look believably teenage OR have the commanding domineering aura. Dune 1984 went for aura, New Dune goes for looks.
Yeah I have yet to see the second film yet, but from the first one my impression of the casting is that he looks wayyy too boyish and innocent to play Paul. Plus I really hate the haircut, it's one that emphasizes aesthetic over practicality - at least they could have had him shave it once he integrates into the Fremens, IMO.
But Adum praised his transformation near the end of the film so I'm holding off on final judgement, perhaps he really does pull it off ultimately.
@@LoudWafflethe twink goes Chad pretty believably
@@LoudWaffleso? How was it
@@castrelspirit Just saw it, I still think he wasn't the perfect cast for the lead but Chalamet's "stage presence" was significantly better in this one.
Not sure how much of it was Chalamet growing into his role (the haircut didn't bother me now, even though I still wish it was different), Villeneuve just pulling off the adaptation process better now, or the second half of the book lending itself MUCH better to the format of film - probably some combination of all three.
Paul having much more to do - both in terms of action and characterization - was a very big boon. In the first half of the story he's very much a passive actor in the plot. The first film probably would have been better if they did something bold like refocusing the PoV and treating Duke Leto as the main character (up until Paul needs to escape the invasion, of course). Would allow Paul's character to be established on the sidelines while he's still just an untested boy without it making the plot stumble, and Oscar Isaac did a great job in the role of the Duke already, much better stage charisma than Chalamet in the first film.
@JohnJohnson27-cs6ix huh?
Christopher Walken being the emperor is basically a reference to the Weapon of Choice music video
weapon of choice is literally a reference to dune
I liked it when they were all pal-ing around and doing the dance together in the closing montage
@@iamcoolalot that's why him being in the movie is a reference.................duh
I dont like how people just praise his presense and hide behind memes. He was dragging the movie down. He was totally miscast. I wish it was someone else and at very least middleaged to keep some of the point of him looking half his age in the books. Jude Law someone else about his age would be much better.
Kyle Maclachlan could play Paul Atreides but Timothee Chalamet could never play Zack Carey in Showgirls!
Tea! But I’d love to see it though
I was pretty mind blown when he said he CGI in part 1 was distracting. I was incredibly impressed with the CGI, I thought it was the most well excecuted CGI I have ever seen. Interesting.
i think some scenes had to be changed late in the process so they weren't quite up to par. But overall the cgi was great and it didn't bother me at all.
Part 1 literally won the Oscar for best VFX lmao idk what Adam is talking anout
@@towelzz9873 As someone else pointed out: just classic Adum shenanigans
Dune VFX are top tier
Nah bro Adam just has intense autism and gets distracted by the dumbest shit on the face of the planet
@@towelzz9873
Because Adam is an actual critic and the Oscars are not.
You watch this channel, right? How are you not aware of this?
I personally didn't notice any of the issues with part 1 CGI, but that's more because I wasn't paying attention to them so much as something else in the scene. If I actually look at them, yeah, they're not on par with the rest of the visuals.
Adam's not wrong, it's just I don't think the CGI was an issue for anyone except those both familiar with visual effects and those who are looking for it.
The way Adam described Dune 1984 makes me think that he's never watched a David Lynch movie in his life.
"there was a lot of body horror???? for some reason???"
me: yeah lol
You have to remember that this man has seen very few movies before 2002
He has watched Eraserhead and, at least, Mulholland Drive.
He has Eraserhead and Mulholland Drive rated. Not sure about any others.
Same feeling I got lol. I get why most people prefer the modern version. To me, Lynch's feels much more uncomfortable and strange to watch, which adds to the alien world. But this is a very specific taste that I know a lot of people don't share.
Wait, but you said that you hadn't been exposed to any Dune related media until Dune Pt 1 (2022), but also had review on Jodorowsky's Dune nine years ago. Which is it Adumb? GOTEEM
YMS has been real quiet since this expose dropped. Not a new video since. Suspicious.
Credibiity: out the fucking window now
that is a documentary about a film that never came t be is not actual Dune content/ no one watches that and suddenly understands Dune
@@deusexmachina9776I heard about that documentary and never heard of the franchise either aside from it influencing sci-fi.
Some really overestimate how mainstream Dune really was before Part 1 came out. Like the last major production anyone talked about was nearly forty years ago when that movie came out. And exactly forty when Part 2 was released.
A Scifi Channel mini series (with Paul literally dressed like the Karate Kid and a young James McAvoy. Look it up. Paul and the Spacing Guild are hilarious.) and a few references in cartoons around the same time isn’t mainstream.
It took a few more attempts by other studios until Denis Villeneuve got it off the ground. I’m just glad WB didn’t sabotage it like Disney did with John Carter.
The Shai Hulussy was too much
Yeah I couldn't handle the hulussy
Harkonnen bussy on the other hand...
I'm a huge fan of David Lynch's Dune, it functions really well as a B-movie, especially if you already know the plot they're telling (although it's not necessary). The soundtrack was done by Toto (yes, the group that made "Africa") and the production history is just a trainwreck. This film is a major reason why David Lynch now hates science fiction and demands final cut on his films. David Lynch originally wanted to make the film 4 hours long, but the studio stopped filming before they could finish and just patched the footage together, which is why the last act is .. like that. It also makes it a lot funnier any time there's just narration over B-roll because they just didn't have footage for those plot points.
For any David Lynch or even Twin Peaks fans: this is the project where David Lynch met Kyle McLaughlin (whom he thought was perfect for the role ... I don't know how).
Also the "garbage bag people" are wearing modified body bags that the production team cleaned and used as materials before use. The behind the scenes are fascinating on this film, and I find they make the experience a lot more enjoyable since you can squint and see what they were going for (the villain's death is also hilarious).
Would highly recommend David Lynch's Dune, I've seen it 12 times and can't see myself slowing down any time soon.
I just caught the re-release in theaters, and so much of it works better on a big screen. It looked great.
Oh yeah the sets are beautiful
If you like the Lynch film and you can find it, the fan edit Dune Alternative Edition Redux is well worth a look, either the original version or the recent 1080p update.
austin butler did such a good job that for a little bit I was afraid I was enjoying a jared leto performance
Duuuude, it really gave me Suicide Squad Joker vibes too haha
My dad and brother were talking about it they could've sworn he was Skargards kid or one of his other brothers 😅.
He did a great job.
@@jofall91 that's a perfect comparison 🤣 i'm sorry but i just couldn't take his character/performance seriously
Timothee fucking blew my mind with his big speech at the war council
Hell yes!! He was so great
I dunno what your smoking. The CG in these movies are great.
Thanks for the review, and opinion!
you’re*
Dune part 2 is the definition of the word Epic. It's worth seeing in the biggest screen possible more so than whatever the fuck ghostbusters frozen empire is
its not that good bruh chill
jesus fuck me, that thing is coming...? Blehh..
Not as epic as Jujutsu Kaisen season 2.
ghostbusters frozen ape? for $50?
@@phothewin6019 out of here weeb
Every other critic: MASTERPIECE
Yms: 7/10
Armond White: Rebel Moon is Stars Wars for ADULTS.
An action movie getting a 7/10 from Adum = Masterpiece.
@@corporatestatusbrahwhat does that make his 10/10 Neil Breen ratings?
Thats what i love about YMS, he is not a blind fanboy.
Both Dune 1 and 2 are good action movies, nothing groundbreaking. Compared to other action movies(mcu movies for example) Dune is much better, but still it has lots of nonsense.
Transcendence @@Gambit08
I genuinely appreciate that you just randomly threw in a review of the Lynch version. made me smile
when i started laughing at irulun's floating exposition head on my first watch of '84 Dune, my partner yelled from the other room "DID YOU GET TO STING'S KNIFE FIGHT?" which is how i learned that Sting was in '84 Dune
Just watched Lynch's Dune for the first time this week and I have to say - the corniness is VERY endearing to me. While I don't think it's a good movie by any stretch of the imagination, I had a BLAST watching it and will probably revisit it more than I do Villeneuve's films.
FYI, David Lynch disowned the 1984 film after the producers made their own changes in the final cut. The TV edit is credited to director Alan Smithee, and the script, credited to Lynch in the original, is credited to a pseudonym, "Judas Booth".
Whether or not it's really his, as opposed to that of producer Dino De Laurentiis, or someone else entirely, would probably require a good look at production notes that are unlikely to ever see the light of day. I think it's fair to say it's less "his movie" than Eraserhead, Blue Velvet, or Wild at Heart.
I can’t believe he forgot to mention the epic soundtrack of the David Lynch film was made by rock band Toto.
Yes, the band who played Africa.
Truly inspired
True contrast of the Creative ARTS.
0:43 Lmao *Dennis Villinawavay* sounds like a Denis the Menace OC 💀
I had to stop the video. I was laughing too much! xD
Dennis Villain9
"My desert. My Arrakis. My Dune!" - Baron Harkonnen (2021)
"AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!" - Baron Harkonnen (1984)
As it is written.
The dogs in Lynch's Dune are a metphore for Paul, they're both the product of years of purposeful breading.
Yes. Breaded dogs.
Yeah like a baguette or something, innit?
@@uratrtl Ello mate ow ye doing?
Adam go 1 minute without saying "very", "really" or "super" challenge (impossible) 3 2 1 GO
Or "extremely"
"My ideal version of these two films is just a trimmed down version of both of them together."
*David Lynch laughing menacingly in the distance*
Duney movie 2, an extremely duney movie
Duney toons
It was the two-est of dunes
Duney 2: Electric Boogaloo
No, _A Duney Movie_ came out in 1984. The rock star was Prince.
I watched it on the Dune-sney channel.
I really liked Dune Part 1, but I totally understand people's criticisms of it. I think part of the pacing issues comes from the fact that the movie's structure is nothing but setup for Part 2. They were also very faithful to the book. They didn't create any original characters or make up any side plots to make the first movie actually feel complete, and I'm really grateful for that. I do agree that the ideal experience would be a single movie, 4 hours is a little too short for me. 4.5-4.75 hours maybe. I just enjoy being in that world so much that I honestly struggle with trimming it down. That's me, though.
yeah I honestly dont see how it could be trimmed down any more than it already was. I know it would be a lot for people to take in one sitting but it needs that run time
Dune Part 1 is a very slow movie, but I loved trying to piece together the setting. I was never bored.
because it does a horrible job establishing the world, lore and character motives.
the most positive 7/10 i've ever heard
its a weak 9/10 for me
genuinely how could you possibly watch dune pt. 1 and think the effects are bad? that’s so crazy to me
i think the scale of some of the cg objects is so massive that people reactively think it looks unrealistic when really imo people have trouble suspending their disbelief enough to see that the ships etc. are beautifully and accurately rendered and are just overwhelming in the detail they suggest
bc good cgi can look....................CGI. It was distracting
Adum could have been anybody on that poster and he chose Lady Jessica. That’s a boss move.
The spicediver cut of Lynch's Dune is kind of good I won't lie. Like it's still got all of the cheese but the extra 40 really fleshes out some of the character relationships and that tacky ass ending gets fixed to be a little more menacing!
Dune OST by Toto, banger! They blessed the sandworms down in Arrakis
Lmao, very much right
Christopher Walken being cast is the same energy as adding Jason Bateman as a character too
"The Slow Blade penetrates the shield" line that Patrick stewart says was the exact line used by Josh Brolin, and is directly from the book too
congrats Adum, I give you the award for being the first person i've ever seen on youtube who can actually pronounce Dennis Villeneuve's name correctly.
He messed up his last name fym
Denus Villain New Wavey
He did better than 99% of Anglos trying, that's good enough for me @@tgd02
let's not forget that Lynch wanted to recut his version of dune that was gonna be over 4hs long
I am glad someone else thought the same thing. CHRISTOPHER WALKEN?? I really enjoyed the movie but that took me completely out of it whenever he was on screen.
Had the same reaction to Anya Taylor-Joy. I already just saw her as Furiosa in the previews, and now I'm expected to just buy that she's also a character in Dune? It just doesn't work.
Because he did some comedy in the 2000s? Dudes a great serious actor.
@@siphillis she's the perfect choice for Alia tho
Hard same. It was extremely distracting.
@@stonecrestcounty342that may be, doesn’t change the fact that his cultural role is extremely well established at this point. You act like he’d have trouble finding other serious roles if he didn’t have this specific sci-fi emperor job
Dune 1984 is amazing. Funny as hell still epic
The way you described the first Dune is the way I remember it from watching it when it came out. But rewatching it now and I must say, it flows like spice. One smooth continuous waving resulted in quite ecstatic resonations at times. I wasn't bored because the whole time my mind was occupied by trying to make sense of the world of Dune and peace together motivations of characters, I like puzzles and for me, it was very delightful. And all the sounds and visuals and designs were just a blessing. Also love the mom representation in a movie, don't often you get to see a positive illustration of mother-son relationships.
Very much agreed! Dune Part 1 is a very slow movie, but I loved trying to piece together the setting.
I think adum has ADHD =(
YMS be like "This is the greatest movie of the year, 7/10"
tldr; dont expect a furry to read a book
😂😂
10:59 Alongside random weird Lynchian things, Toto's soundtrack is what kept 84's Dune in my heart all these decades. Don't care about the inaccuracies to source or how aged the effects may be, the grandiosity and nerdiness of prog rock sensibilities is the most fitting accompaniment to space operas and planetary romances. Graeme Revell and Hans Zimmer really had no chance, especially with the sort of irony that is inherent in having the band that blessed the rains in Africa tackling a universe where rain is a socio-economic apocalypse.
I guess you already aware of this, but David Lynch was in a lot of fight with the hollywood over this film, and they changed a lot of things he didn't want to.
There's a reason why he never want to talk about the movie or barely even recognize it.
To my undersanding, he wanted to do more, but neither the budget or the time allowed him along with the pressure from the hollywood.
So in the end, he just said, f*ck this, completed the movie and then never worked with hollywood again after that.
Adum: 7/10
Everyone: Oh brother this guy STINKS
I watched Dune 1984 because I loved Dune 2 so much that it made me curious because it’s a somewhat running joke in RedLetterMedia content that Dune 1984 is a nightmare to watch. I watched it high with friends and it was a lot of fun. My friends who were familiar with the books did have some praise for it though. They claim that the Harkonenns in the new movies capture the intimidation and power they represent but fail to showcase their depravity and disgustingness which the David Lynch movie does much better.
We all know dune part one and two should've been Rated R but Denis/Warner wanted pg-13
How did you forget to mention the cat milking machine?! Scoot will never forgive you for this! :O
I really want to forget about the cat milking machine.
Now you just need to watch syfy's Dune miniseries.
Bro really said Dune: Part One's VFX weren't believable💀
it wasn't. It was good CGI, but it was too much CGI
@@itscrossfaded oh yeah you're right, they should've gone out to Arrakis for real and filmed Ornithopters and Sandworms in their natural environment.
@@Poreanstupid take. acting like practical effects aren’t real.
@@Poreanjust film it all in the middle of saudi arabia bruh
Adum: drops it from a 6 to a 5
Lisan al gaib as it was written
I honestly think that Lynch's Dune would be a good candidate for an Adum & Palz watch-through
My favorite scene in dunc part 2 was when Al Pacino was rapping in a Dunkin’ Donuts.
A dunka dunka dunka dunka dunkacino!
"It's not Paul anymore, it's Dunk!"
"Dunkatreides?!"
"Don't mind if I Dune!"
One thing i have noticed about the dune movies is why it gpt its title as an unfilmable film. Spoliers for dune 1 but when paul is threatened with the gom jabar, Jessica sights phrases from the fear speech which makes sense from a show don't tell perspective but dune has always been a tell dont show story. Where the plot that is happeneing in front of you is not important but the context it has within the story is. This has always made the books both complicated and wordy, which doesn't translate well. However, i felt that the palm tree scene perfectly embodied how dune should be filmed. With a lot more nuance to their conversation. Dune strikes me as a game of thrones situation where it gets critical praise until it decides to do something away from the source material and stumbles.
Denis talks about how he doesn’t like dialogue and likes film to be as visual as possible - which is quite literally the opposite of what the books are. It’s all talking and almost no visual descriptions. It’s an odd contradiction that I think works surprisingly well but still leaves a lot to be desired for some fans of the book.
@@URBONEDi absolutly agree and overall i think that for those just enjoying the visuals of the film thats all thats needed. however like the change to the mentats having a tattoo instead of the stains again misses the point of spice and its addictive nature. an its never properlly adressed as a change so it feels like it lacks any weight beyond asthetics. where as the book uses what few discriptions it gives to make a point about the over all story. its those changes that on the surface seem small but change a lot of the context of the overall story that i feel need somthing like an internal monolouge or maybe subtitles for thoughts.
My uncle and I arrived much earlier than expected and had an hour wait for Dune 2. We had thoroughly overeaten as well, when we finally got in and I realized our seats reclined I was like oh shit we're both gonna fall asleep guaranteed. But nope the movie was so exciting we both perked right back up. The moving cover scene was the best one.
David lynch thought he was gonna get to make a really weird sci fi film that was loosely based on the book. The studio had different ideas.
@11:47 David Lynch decided that the Eyes of Ibad should be expanded and gave each aspect of dune their own facial recognizer. The Bene Gesserit are all bald, the Harkonens all were ginger and gross, idk why they didn't go with the stained lips of the Mentats from the book (you can see they kinda tried) but they landed on big bushy eyebrows. Still silly, but that's why they did it.
Christopher Walken saying Muad dib was the funniest shit ever
I hate when for movies like this when you say "i didn't understand that part" people will say "well you haven't read the books." These are completely different mediums and they should stand on their own. If the movie is supposed to be supplemental to the book or vice versa, you might as well just put that in the title.
Thats what this is a visual supplement to the book basically
Ikr, it's like trying to excuse the plot holes in Legend of the Galactic Heroes by saying the novels explained them.
For real, my biggest complaint with Dune part 2 was; SPOILERS: When Chani somehow revived Paul with her tears?! It was so out of left field and was not explained AT ALL prior to it, everyone around her just went "Just as the written!!" etc. but it was just so stupid. Not to mention Chani/Zendaya looking annoyed the entire movie, I could never get it out of my mind if someone on set made a bad joke everytime she appeared on screen, she was literally angry the entire way through lmfao
I understand that criticism but it doesn’t apply to these movies. They tell you everything you need to know for the story they are telling, or what they leave open to interpretation like how Paul’s visions are communicated in Part 1.
I’ve seen some criticisms of part 2 that are addressed in the movie, which makes me wonder if people actually watch what is in front of them.
because you don’t have to really read the books to understand the movie, skill issue tbh
Finding the CGI from part 1 to feel dated now is understandable for someone exposed to so many movies, but to say it was dated for the time is silly
it has been two years, what
Speaking of Dune: Part Two, we're still waiting for The Lion King review: Part 2 😅
If you want a good version of Dune under five hours, maybe you’d like the Syfy miniseries? The costumes and effects are funny-bad, but the story is excellent. There is an extended version of the miniseries that I have trouble hunting down, which is different from the uncensored version, which is actually cut down. Yes, it is very annoying to find in good quality online (presuming you don’t want to watch it on the UA-cam freeboot)
I tried it and made it 30 minutes into the first episode. Made the worst parts of the Star Wars prequels look like pure poetry 😅 I respect that fans of the novel get something out of it though.
I agree the miniseries from 2000 is pretty good. I think the look of it, in terms of lighting and set design, along with its somber tone, is spot on.
"This is a 'Star Wars'-y film"
The term you are looking for is SPACE OPERA, you supposed film critic.
yeah geez
It's nothing like Star Wars, it's not even fantasy, this is sci fi.
@@3lancerofficialmaybe871how is it not fantasy he can see the future
Dune: Part One - watched the first 1/2 hour and was bored. It had no energy.
Dune: Part Two - watched the first 1/2 hour - visuals were good - had no interest in following the character's - Timothy as Paul just leaves my scratching my head. Zendaya has no screen presence.
Dune 1984 - flawed but great visuals and memorable moments.
So that's where Alex IHE got his eyebrows
Fair criticism. I'm a mega Dune fanboy and I think your perspective is good to hear, especially from someone who isn't bought into the universe of it. I had much the same disappointment with the first movie, and saw it as serviceable to the book rather than a cinema spectacle. Your complaint of run time is also going to be at odds with soy boys like me who would be mad if they left out information that we saw as crucial to the _L O R E_ .
I think Denis was just playing it safe with the first movie, just making a profitable/well reviewed enough movie to get something like this made, where he could take more chances with the cinematography and tone. Plus, with at least three more books in the series that he could adapt, he needs to build it up a bit in order to attract and maintain an audience so that he can make a couple more movies at this same quality.
Fingers crossed for Villeneuve, if he can't do it no one can.
Denis only wants to do Messiah as he has said as that is the end of Paul's story I think. If we do get Children of Dune it would be a different director.
Ridley Scott could do it.
As a fellow book fan, I enjoyed Part 1 a lot but can also understand why non-book-readers would be less positive about it. Mainly I just feel like Dune is un-adaptable, but the first movie did about as well as I could expect any movie to do when adapting the first half of the book. So it exceeded my expectations, and really just functions as a visual supplement to the book. Haven't seen the second movie yet, but I'm not surprised that non-book readers are liking it more than the first film, as it's the part with more action (not just physical action, but actual plot movement) and a more structured, focused narrative - as opposed to part 1 which is mainly all about laying the groundwork for the story, building up the world, etc.
@@phothewin6019 Earlier Ridley Scott, maybe. Modern Ridley Scott? Hell no. There's one director I thought could do it as well as Villeneuve has, but I can't remember who it was.
The David Lynch version is a guilty pleasure, or perhaps nostalgia fuel, for some of us. It's charming, yet the score makes it epic at the same time. A weird but potent combination.
I know Lynch didn't like what they did to it in the edit, but I still find it his most approachable and re-watchable film that I've seen so far, if not the most competent (probably mostly because of the edits the studio did).
I'm glad you watched it and enjoyed it, there is a fan edit out there you might be curious about - it brings it to just under three hours.
Oh god, kazoo man from 80s Dune is imminently memeable
The bit about Christopher Walken being Emperor - I feel like that about every movie that Leonardo Dicaprio has been in since The Basketball Diaries and Total Eclipse
"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain."
Frank Herbert, Dune
I had to stop the video just before 4 minutes.. I didn't want to pick up your lack of enthusiasm for the project. To each their own. I didn't agree with almost anything you said yet about this franchise. I thought the first was extremely boring and spent too much time story building however after dune 2 I rewatched part 1 and I appreciated it a lot more. What a beautiful couple of films so far. Dune 2 might be my favourite movie ever, and like you I never knew anything about this movie until about 2 months ago. Thanks for the review tho!
I loved this movie but I don't understand how they're going to adapt the next book, they left out so many important plot points. They're going to have to do a lot of retconning but I trust the director
Hilarious how the Baron being able to fly is just something they made up for the 80's one and they've just kept doing it ever since
Oh brother this guy STINKS
the first film clicked with me after seeing part two, knowing some more lore, and seeing the first again with a little helping of something magic. i think they nailed it.
This guy watch 2 Dune Movies and he can't remember the main villains name is Baron Vladimir Harkonnen. Hell he could have just remembered Baron Harkonnen or the fat Harkonnen. I get he hasn't read the book but at least remembered characters names from the 2 movie you watched with the exact same characters
They are not interesting enough to remember. Its fat floating guy and bald guy
Adum's criticism boils down to "I recognize actors and also I think of 15 year old memes instead of the movie therefore 7/10"
honestly
plus a little of "I didn't have big dramatic scenes2 he doesnt like that sort of thing, even in more personal emotional films he likes there a big blowout scene or big controversial scene
And don't forget he felt a little sleepy.
Why even watch a review if you don't wanna hear his opinions and boil them down to be snarky?
@@colinmitchell1287 or, get this
people can like his reviews but also disagree with him whenever he says something dumb
i know, novel concept
The Reverend Mother dropped a new Dune review.
Adum. Christopher Walken was in a music video called “weapon of choice” which contained a lot of dune references.
Dune: Part DEUX: End of Book One
Hey Adum! I’m sure you’ll never see this but I was the theatre employee who recognized you when you watched Dune 2. I put novichok inside your popcorn! Thank you for letting me take a selfie with you and I’m glad you enjoyed the film!
A "movie guy" who hasn't seen Lynch's Dune? Look at this joker
Point and laugh everyone!
Far as I know he hasn't seen mulholland drive or blue velvet either.