OHH MAN! Reacting To Louis C.K. - Nig*er Fell A Sleep At The Forklift
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Don't know if this true but my minimal research has found the louis ck is at least half Mexican.
You have to react to this scene from Clerks 2. ua-cam.com/video/IYITxGniww4/v-deo.html
The context is hilarious.
@@thedoombringerscooty-puffs5964 The entire movie is one of my all time favorite comedies, because say what you want about most of Kevins stuff, but that movie certainly is awesome as a whole. W
hile I dont know which scene you mean, because I cant watch it due to the new age-restrict-register bullshit, the whole movie is basically a perfect example of small humorous set pieces/dialogue, that Actually serve as setups for the Big punchline, which is maybe a bit too on the nose with repeat viewings, but absolutely perfect for the first couple of watch-throughs.
I think I should suggest CKs bit entitled " Fa**ot, C**t, Ni**er", in which he briefly talks about those words and whats his stance about saying them - that should clear up Any confusion as to why he is So comfortable saying the n-word.
That said, it seems that all of the videos of the bit have disappeared, and really recently too, so yeah - I dont know what to suggest, except for maybe watching the beginning of the special that bit opens up, which is from 2008, called "Chewed Up".
Louis CK’s father is Mexican if I believe. I also think he can speak fluent Spanish..I think his ancestry is Mexican and eastern European (Hungary or something like that)
Chris Rock called Louie CK the blackest white guy he knows
Rock also oboe black guy that might have said what the black producer in the story said...
And he is also mexican.
@@charlesw8655 lol like a quarter
@@LeafGreen906 he grew up there, his first language was spanish. That's pretty damn more than a quarter.
Didnt he straight up call Louis "the biggest N word he knows" during that Seinfeld/Gervais/CK/Rock sit down thing?
A big part of his being comfortable saying it is because he's someone who believes in comedy being a place where you should be able to laugh at anything, even (or especially) if it makes you uncomfortable. I thought this bit was funny because it centered around how nobody was grasping the racism that his friend was talking about. But that said, I certainly can't get mad if anyone got offended or weren't cool with hearing Louis say the N word repeatedly, regardless of it being part of the gag. Nobody has a right to tell you what you can and can't find funny or offensive.
Perfectly said.
Well said indeed. Somehow I don’t doubt that some people will be offended even by what you said despite it being completely reasonable
Hes obviously not "really" using the N word. People who unironically use the N word are really dumb. Black or white Ive never met a smart person who uses the N word in every day life. They tend to know a lot more words and are better at expressing themselves.
Well, another part of it is, he has a joke about when reporters say "the n word", everyone knows what it means and it puts the word nigger in your head. "You're making ME say it."
The point is, if you want to communicate something, grow a pair of balls and just say it instead of dancing around.
I dont get why people get so confused on both sides of the argument. Yes, as a comedian, you have the freedom to explore comedy in any topic, but it doesnt mean people have to like it or listen to it. You dont control the reaction.
And as the audience, you have the right to be offended and never support that comic again, but that doesnt mean you get to control what the comedian says and does.
And you dont have the right to "cancel" their career based on what is offensive to you.
“I’d like to see where this context goes.”
Love you guys but, bro, the entire context had been laid out already, it’s Mark Twain and that he called a character in Huck Finn that name. That’s it, that’s the context.
I think they meant that they wanted to see where the story went. And then they didn't pay attention to the story. They metaphorically fell asleep at the forklift.
You think these guys read?
@@mocthezumathis actually made me laugh
The point of the whole story was that nobody was understanding how hurt and horrified Mike was. Everybody's just casually racist including the other black people in the story. The fact that he's casually using the word plays into the joke.
Yeah these ding dongs were too stoned to get the point 😂
"Joke within the white community"
Me as a white guy: ... Uh What
Yep, if you do that joke (or use that word) in the "white community" (whites aren't really allowed to have "communities," lol) you'll get ostracized super, super fast.
There's a "white" community? Didn't think that was allowed...lol
@@longleaf9943 white people tend to be more fundamentally isolationist these days. it's not 'my community' anymore so much as 'my house, my land, my stuff, my kid' (or 'my family', which isn't so much a community as one big 'individual entity'). I never noticed it so much in the city, but since moving back to the suburbs/country, I'm amazed at how white people are losing their sense of 'neighbour-ship'.
I know there are patches/regions of exceptions, but do a survey of how many people know their neighbours' names--or their neighbours' kids' names--or when they last brought dinner to a lady who just had a baby, or helped an elderly person get groceries. There are exceptions, but for the most part, we don't do that anymore.
LOUIS CK IS MEXICAN LOL. This is why no one understands louis lol. Go listen to him on Opie and Anthony. All clips are on UA-cam. He looks white, but he is bi racial
@@Nc18554
He's a quarter Mexican, a quarter Jewish, and half Irish. Really dedicated white racists don't consider any of those groups to be "white".
You totally missed the actual ending when he says someone is like " ...how do you fall asleep on a forklift?"
They totally miss the whole point of the story I feel....
@@gabrielemariotti5780 they miss things every time lol
Indeed, the whole punch-line is that the GREEK guy says that... And theyr'e laughing over that bit.
@@gabrielemariotti5780 Yep. They were too busy thinking about the actual word being used by a white guy that the whole joke flew over their heads. I can't blame them, but that said, this Louie bit is freakin hilarious.
"Now that I know you guys are cool" is the context of the joke. The story is how his friend is offended by racism and no one gives a fuck. It describes the audience perfectly, there are people offended and then the rest don't give a fuck. Some are his friend and the rest are the others
The joke is how nobody in the story is addressing the racism and how it’s a genuine problem. If he didn’t say the actual word, the whole point of it would be moot.
Louie has written more shit then you could know. Black sitcoms to movies.
Pootie Tang
Louie always plays around with context and that’s what’s clever about his work. His bit on “the n word” and how censoring it is functioning identical to saying the actual thing because both put the word in your head when hearing it is pretty brilliant. He exposes absurdities in how we think about things or react to them. We’re not a consistent or logical species and comedy is a great way at highlighting that and why those contradictions are funny.
I understand the philosophy behind this argument but don't agree with it.
@@BenTIStudios I respect that.
@@HeyFella same to you sir.
Civil discourse on UA-cam comments??? What! Fight already!
@@BenTIStudios I think the main problem with people for or against the use the word is that aside from you who understand the mechanics being used here even if you disagree, many will ask for total liberties of that word - among others - being used (and i strongly disagree with that as for me, it needs buildup, quote or context) and some are for the total opposite too.
The issue i will have is with people who can't handle it but also will be attacking it or trying to make it censored despite when it's being used in a clever way or the whole point / context being out of being malicious about it.
It was in fact Cedric the entertainer who said that lol
How do you know that?
It was a writer who worked for Cedric the Entertainer. He literally said it in this video.
@@tpioh_ and the OPs point, which he worded poorly, was that it wasn't a white producer that the black writer worked for aka "Ted Cruz" like dude on the right said. Cedric the Entertainer was the producer.
And if everyone is bitching for the sake of bitching then I highly recommend everyone quit bitching.
I love this joke, their is so much to unfold in this joke, BUT...you’re not seeing it....your enlightenment is stalled at one word. But that’s just my opinion, and I wouldn’t trust it (lol). Cheers.
I'm on their side. I'm all for comedy being able to use anything, but tbh this joke was just fucking boring. It really did seem like the whole joke was just supposed to be the shock value from him using the term.
On its own the joke was hollow and bland, and while it slightly addressed social conundrums, it did so in a lackluster way that barely even matters.
Frankly this was just a bad bit imo, so I don't blame them for not liking it, and getting annoyed that he felt the need to use the word 9+ times in order to sell a poor joke.
@@Syllaren it wasn't a bit, it was a true story he felt was worth telling on stage. It wasn't supposed to be hilarious, it was supposed to be amusing and provide different perspectives on the issue. If you didn't find it funny at all thats alright (I don't think anyone found it particularly hilarious), but take issue with the low entertainment value then and not his use of a particular word which is really beside the point.
@@kilogmatt Nailed it dude
Americans should laugh at it!
Stop with the division
@Syllaren I think the joke was kinda deep. And funny. The joke is about people not being able to understand what someone is trying to say. The same is happening here slightly differently. But same idea. No one can understand each other because they can't get past certain words and this joke captures that perfectly.
As for louie being too comfortable saying it, I think that's because he's on stage doing a comedy performance. I very much doubt he's running around saying it in his daily life. Louie is loved by a lot of other black guys in his industry. So don't consider him using the word so comfortably as representative of who he is.
As a Greek with a big nose, i can confirm, didn't give a shit about the N-word in the first place, i was wondering about the forklift during the whole bit.
Everyone is entitled to feel how they feel man no shame, thx for giving it a shot and being honest
Every person who reacts to louis on UA-cam, never understands his jokes, its hilarious lol. He was the fuckin man, on Opie and Anthony. That crowd in the 2000s in New York, was legendary. Louis is the best joke teller, of all time. He's also bi racial, and hardly anyone knows that lol. 100s of hours of him on Opie and Anthony, talking way worse shit than this.
@@Nc18554 Louie isnt biracial, hes a white mexican
Doesn't Louis CK have a bit about ppl saying "The N-word" instead of the word itself and how you're just making ppl think the word in their mind anyway? That's a pretty cool bit. Anyway ppl can or not be offended by his comedy, Louis CK likes to push boundaries/buttons
You guys seemed to conclude that it wasn't funny, but every time you brought it up, you couldn't help but laugh.
Sure it is a comedy, but it is social commentary as well. The point, I think, was he friend was upset that the word was used and was telling the story to explain why he was upset. And then people kept using the word, without hesitation, in response to the story. Those folks were focused on falling asleep at the forklift, not the use of the offensive term, which is what they were supposed to be offended at. And Louis kept using it, and the crowd was comfortable with it, illustrating that people are too comfortable with the word being used to the point when it is being used to illustrate subtle or overt racism and intolerance, it goes over peoples heads.
Thank you!
Except the guys watching the video didn't get that
You could say the point of the last bit with his Greek friend was to highlight the opposite. Someone who isn’t steeped in our racial history in the US is more focused on the actual situation and not the social connotations around how it was framed. The entire commentary could be read the opposite way really.
That is a shame that those two cant see that the joke is actually about the elephant in the room that nobody seem to point out. Also, N.. Jim is a character in a Mark Twain book, that was his name in the book and Louis is actually showing that even the best writers of their generation were people of their times, meaning racist in many ways.
Nah they addressed it
It’s not for Louie ck to address it lol he’s is not black, let black people address racism that they’re living in everyday, that’s not his place. And he differently shouldn’t be saying the world in any context.
@@PublicDweeb Good on you to miss out on the whole point of the joke. Also, saying that only black people can/should address racism is ridiculous and harmful to equality in general. In their reaction to "The American Civil War Oversimplified" they say there should be more "John Browns" in the world. AKA, a person willing to make a stand and fight against inequality and racism, despite being someone in the majority/white/privileged.
@@PublicDweeb lmao you're such a crybaby it's hilarious
Louis is actually taking apart the "loaded" comment on the forklift. First, he criticizes Mark Twain, a legendary American writer, for his racist comments. And then, by letting his friend, at the end, say "how do you fall asleep at the forklift" Louis lets everybody know it is NOT about race or colour but about the attitude of the person working the forklift. The skid is very subtle, I agree, and could be misunderstood.
I'm afraid I have some bad news for you, my guy.
“N-word fell asleep at the forklift” wasn’t the joke.
The joke was a deconstruction of the word showing that in the end it’s all just words that people use...
You can’t say he’s just using the word to make the joke work.
The joke is literally about the word and words in general
Yea but George Carlin already did that, and did it much better
@@JHulse29 doesn't matter
@@JHulse29 anddd
You should watch the clip of Louis CK and Patrice O'neal talking about the origins of slurs. Louis says the word in a funny context and Patrice laughed.
What i love about this clip is that Patrice can't contain it even though the first sentence isn't finished yet.
"Do .. do you know where "nigger" came from .."
_Patrice cracks_
".. originally ?"
_Patrice cracks again_
"Opie & Anthony: Louis CK Explains...His Origin"
I think you guys, or atleast one of you, missed this entire joke/story. Louis CK repeated what Mark Twain wrote, and then what someone else said during a story. Both times, Louis expressed how uncomfortable and ridiculous the use of the word was, supporting that it's not a word that should be used. And while I cannot judge the feelings that word evokes in a black person as I'm white, and the racists insults towards us just don't carry the weight of that one.
Anyway, as far as this Louis CK bit, get mad at Mark Twain lol.
Chris Rock gave him permission to say it. And Louis doesn't really give a shit about what people think of him on top of that.
Who cares? Rock may have said it was ok to say it around him, but he doesn't speak for all black people. He could still get his ass kicked
Yeah if he were ever using it in a derogatory way he could get his ass kicked. But the fact is that black comedians that know him are all cool with him, and in the age of cancel culture he's uncoincidentally been able to use it without incident because there's no hostility or insensitivity in the way he uses it.
@@JHulse29 lol louis has more ny street cred then these dudes do.
@@JHulse29 louis is from mexico and is not white at all 😂 he came here when he was 8 and didnt even speak english. he just pretends to be white because he looks like the part.. patrice oneal used to roast him on opie and anthony for trying to pretend to be white and it was hilarious.
@@kingheart9555 yes he is. His father is half Mexican and half Hungarian. His mother is fully Irish, so he's very much white.. His real name is Louis Székely, and no, white people AND people wit no African heritage who say the N word around friends should think twice before saying it around other ppl, is all I'm saying. Has nothing to do with street cred, it has to do with not coming off as a racist pos
He was close friends with Patrice O'Neal and they casually used the worst terms on each other and remained good friends RiP.
The joke was that nobody understood his friend’s pain. The lovely black gentleman falling asleep on the forklift is not really the object of the joke
As a super normy white boy I taught the joke was funny in the context of his friend being misunderstood like he’s mad at his family for not having the sensibility at being carful for what they say and ended up telling the word countless time to people who still didn’t understood his feeling
So it make it kinda ironic on two level first that he had to tell the n word a lot for no purpose at all seeing the result and on the second level which I feel is the most important is as a white man he feel bad for people not seeing any problem in the casual usage of the n word as a white man
It’s a very clumsy way of showing what white shame is and how ironic the concept is in itself and that is the joke
Now wether you like it or not is up to you and as a white boy there’s a lot of thing I can’t even start to understand because I never suffered from racism myself and even less had a word that was so ingrained in hate and evil that describe my ethnicity but I think that’s the gist of it.
true, the point of the joke is about how people don't pay attention to the racism in his friend's story. and that is because they are too busy focusing on what they took away from the story. but, the REAL point of the joke is that this is what anyone does as soon as they focus on something besides his friend's pain. the moment you start wondering whether or not this is offensive is PRECISELY the moment that you become everyone in this story besides his friend. you have now taken this man's pain, ignored it, and made it about how YOU feel and how this affects YOU. and, to me, that's the brilliance of it. I think everyone, purely out of reflex, hears him say it and then we all sidetrack for a moment to gather ourselves and plan the next few moments. and that isn't because we are bad people, it's the human condition. regardless of intent, instinct dictates that "I" come before "we" or "you".
Louie is an emmy winning writer for the Chris Rock show and he wrote the movie Pooteytang.
What are you responding too?
He also likes cheese 🤨
@Duffy Duff I mean yeah it's about him, however I don't often see people putting funfact trivia answers in comment sections linked to certain characters. He is right that it's kinda weird and out of nowhere
@Duffy Duff lmao niggas on UA-cam is crazy lol I wanted to know what made him write that comment in the first place if the problem is him saying the n word on stage. What does him him writing for Chris rock and writing pottie tang has anything to do with him saying the n word on stage.
@Duffy Duff lmaooooo okay watever you say
I still dont know why black people are offended when non black person say the N word. Probably i will never understand ...
I'm white so I can never fully understand y'all thoughts or feelings on this, but I always felt like when it comes to that word, context is super important. Like I'm a huge hip hop head and when I'm singing a rap song I'm not censoring myself just because a black dude is riding with me. Maybe I'm wrong for that, I just don't know...?
You do know, you just don’t care, which is wrong. And pretty gross.
@@goeienacht Why is it 'wrong and gross'?
This is what you call taking the power out of a word. The idea was to do that, I think, not just get away with saying the word. He’s trying to demonstrate that words shouldn’t be offensive, context should be offensive. But I completely see where you are coming from. And I agree that this wasn’t funny enough maybe. Sometimes I wonder if making a word off limits makes it more harmful and dangerous
Also I have no interest in ever using that word I’m not saying it should be said lol but I get what he’s trying to do here, I highly doubt he’s simply trying to get away with saying the word.
The worst part about being sensitive about a word is you lose perspective. If I'm calling someone a n*****, then that is offensive. But if I'm telling a story, and using that word within the context of said story, I feel not one bit bad about it. I feel that is being a mature adult. You should be able to identify whether someone is telling a story, or using it in an offensive way.
You guys are missing the point of this whole bit. You’re focusing on one small aspect of it and not listening to the actual story or taking in all the other jokes. You also misunderstood the “now that I know you guys are cool” line at the beginning. It was a joke within itself.
Nothing racist about this joke. The joke is his friend is upset about racism.
I think the difference here is he isn’t saying the word. He’s relaying a story in which other people say the word. He never calls someone the n-word. Just my humble opinion. 😝
I love how they say it’s not funny while trying to keep a serious face holding back laughter, then start to retell the joke and crack up laughing. I get where they’re coming from, but by getting that upset about a word… for starters you’re letting someone else control your emotions, letting them have more control over uu then you have of yourself. Second you’re giving the word all the power essentially saying you’re defenseless to a word. Not to mention you’re mixing the subject of the joke with the target, and then missing the whole point. And guess what, at the end of the day we’re all going to die, there’s no sequel, so let’s have a laugh. If you can laugh at the face of adversity, you’re bullet proof…. or you can keep the tunnel dark and stay sad and blind
I don't see what the big deal is with Mark Twain calling a character "N-Jim." Mark Twains novels were groundbreaking because he wrote the dialogs exactly the way people talked back then. He didn't pull any punches. If he chose to call a character that, it's because that's how people talked back then. And Theodore Dreiser wrote a short story called "N-Jeff." Do people get upset nowadays when Quentin Tarantino makes movies with that word being used all throughout the movie?
I laughed like a maniac when you said Louis CK is racist; that's how absurd that statement is to me!!
It’s always about context, right? There’s a big difference between this, and say ...Michael Richards (aka Kramer) when he did it..
I can’t stand people who try to hurt other people by using that word though and I think we can draw the line at that. What is the intent of the speaker.. is he/she trying to hurt people? Is he/she calling someone that word? Etc..
Yeah there were black folks at that show there're black folks at every damn Louis CK show.
Its like Louis says,when a person says "the N word" they're just making you say the word in your head so does that make it better?
You guys gotta check out, "Talking Funny" with Louis, Jerry, Chris Rock, and Ricky Gervais.
That was my first thought
“If it’s offensive it has to be really funny.” Just laughed at the completely basic racist Greek stereotype ... 🤷
Very emotional getting mad about a word when you never experienced but singing about it calling each other casually without any issues.
😂 Give a nigga responsibility, he gone fail you every time!
And any color can be a nigga!
I love how you're using South Park as your token white friend that shows you're not oversensitive. You just flipped the whole situation.
And the "if it's intricate and has the right context, than it's not racist" thing is nonsense. You'll laugh at anything thrown at you about asian people.
But Asians people wasn’t slave to you ! Was they ?
@@AhmedzackHD yes, they were lol
@@AhmedzackHD many of them kind of are as we speak
@@GregoMorgan bruhh do you even hear your self
@@AhmedzackHD I believe I do, yes.
I mean he's also technically Mexican sooo 🤷♂️
@ZK Tay noone cares when Mexicans says it they looking at it like he's super white
So his dad was born in another country. That means what, to this conversation?
Lol seeing "technically" here really gets me. TECHNICALLY Louis was born in the United States.
@@psycho42069 he even says in one of his specials he didn't move to the u.s. until he was 6 he was born in Mexico
@@kckk420 I was born in Texas, never lived there for a minute until I was 16 years old. What's my point? Louis CK was BORN in Washington DC, LIVED in Mexico with his family for about 6-7 years, then moved to the USA.
So he says in a special he moved here at 6. What's YOUR point?
@@psycho42069 So if a black Africans parents just happen to be in China when he was born, he’s Chinese?
Louis grew up in Mexico to a Mexican parent and didn’t even speak English until he later mover to the US. I think it’s safe to say he’s at least 50% Mexican.
The idea of the bit is really smart to me, the idea that there’s a basic confusion about why this guy is so disturbed about his family member’s story. He then adds an additional layer of irony, including such a divisive term…
If he did the exact same bit but substituted tall or fat or gay or disabled, it would still be a bit where this guy is disturbed that the person who fell asleep was unnecessarily labeled because why does it matter that the forklift driver was X/Y/Z?
I think a lot of Louie’s material is funny to him for a different reason than everyone else. I also agree that a joke should be funny without using hurtful language, but in this case, the joke was about hurtful language
Louie is Mexican, and that doesn't matter. But he has said that using n-word is just a way of making you say the real word in your head anyway.
Louie is white born in Mexico
@@thedayones4918 His father is Mexican.
@@thedayones4918 na he said his dad was mexican and his grandparents were too
@@AA-lu8lo So, Mexicans are allow to use the N word?
@@magicpowers So, Mexicans are allow to use the N word?
If someone calls you that word, I can understand you wanting to punch his head off, but I don't think hearing it in a comedy bit should upset you anymore than hearing Katt Williams or a rapper say it 150 times in 6 minutes.
Red hoodie is trying to be offended but he wants to laugh so bad 😂
I don't really understand this nonsense you have in the middle of the video about "your black friend has a bob, we from the hood for real" like... so if a black person is "too clean", they aren't black enough?
Context, lads. He's saying what it's like being a non racist white man surrounded by people saying the N word.
Nothing wrong with any word. The context is what matters. Stop being so sensitive to one side of it.
False
Why u complaining about them feeling a way😂😂😂
@@larrylee405 it’s the truth if you put power in that word than it will bother you but if you take away that power the word means nothing and that’s a fact
@@jaden.m1019 he is dimply stating a fact the word isn’t not what matters it’s the context but people seem to not get that which makes them sound dumb
Just Some monkey Man with long hair you clearly don’t understand the history and the power that word holds itself. That word will never be something people can make powerless. And if the day ever comes where people make that word powerless and go around saying it like it’s normal, like theirs no consequence that comes with it, I certainly hope I’m no longer living to see it
They literally don't understand the context in the first few words? He's talking about Mark Twain and how not everything he says is great.
Seriously it's just comedy... I'm black and even I'll say it's not like he's burning a cross on ya front yard 🤦🏾.. it's just jokes! Black comedians talk about white and other races all the time ..BUT ITS JUST COMEDY
This was a pretty clever joke tbh - everyone was fixated on the word, but completely ignored the main issue: a mufugga fell asleep at the fork lift!
What a clever way to integrate social commentary into a joke. Definitely flew over a lot of people’s heads.
Here's the thing with it having to be "belly aching funny", A) it's subjective and what is belly aching for someone might not be for someone else and B) as Patrice O'neal said "funny and unfunny come from the same birth" meaning a comedian doesn't know until he says it if it'll be funny or not. So whether it's funny or not, we should fight for their right to say it.
Voltaire said "I disapprove of what you say, but I'll fight to the death your right to say it."
Well, here’s my opinion on the word. If you find it offensive, you should be offended by anyone saying the word, including black people. If you only get offended at white people saying it, regardless of context, then you are being racist by discriminating based on skin color. If a black person uses it against you in a derogatory manner and you’re ok with it but get incredibly mad when a white person uses it exactly the same way, what’s the difference? How are we going to solve racism by excluding people of some things and allowing others the same thing based on skin color alone? Always judge by context and character, not by skin color or race.
Honestly, there really isn’t such a thing as “The White Community”. There are multiple different “communities” each with their own customs/norms/traditions etc. Like when I see this stereotype that white kids don’t get spanked it makes no sense. I’m from Georgia, I go spanked and whipped as a kid. My dad is from Ohio, and his family is from Boston. He got the shit kicked out of him, and so did his dad and uncles.
I guess it’s all a matter of perspective. Just know there isn’t this monolithic entity called “The White Community” that the left likes to talk about. It just doesn’t exist. Just like there isn’t “The Black Community” or “The Hispanic Community”. Sure, there are probably some similarities, but I bet there are way more differences.
People have to stop looking at the world in terms of “oppressors” and “oppressed” because it just isn’t accurate.
I've fallen asleep on a forklift. Working in a warehouse gets boring sometimes. Also, it's the same way it's easy to fall asleep while driving. Something about the vibrations of the engine running makes you real sleepy.
i tend to go by george carlins school of thought, everything can be made fun of or nothing can
“If it’s gonna be offensive it needs to be funny” is a pretty good rule I think
I’m just glad neither of these dudes fell asleep on the couch during this video.
Way I look at it... comedians joke about religion, to terrorism, sexism, rape sometimes.... but some people only draw the line when the N-word gets dropped by someone... like no.... you don't get to laugh at the 9/11 joke and then 3 minutes later think the N-word just took it a little too far. Comedy is comedy for a reason, there's no line or limit to it we have comedians joke about the most vile and reprehensible things.... people can deal with hearing a word they hear probably 5-50 times every single day in the music they listen to and even use regularly (mainly black people) because most white people are not going around calling each other that. We got Cracker and Honkey for that lol.
Louis had a bit saying that, he says the full word because saying the phrase, "the n word" puts the actual word in people's heads. Instead, he says the word so it stops at one person.
What's funny is that Louis isn't really white. He is a Mexican jew.
Hahaha n word fell asleep at the forklift ahahaha n words are so funny. I lol every time I hear n words like nicotine, nicca, nightmare etc.
Louis CK and Patrice O'neal were great together on Opie and Anthony
Not from the US, honest question, why is the N word placed on a pedestal?
It's the most taboo word in America because of the not so great history of race relations here. There are other slurs for other groups of people that are demeaning, but the n-word is widely regarded as the harshest. Another part of it is that it's not uncommon for it to be used amongst fellow black people, but when it's used by non-black people, and especially white people, it's very taboo. That creates an easy opening for comedians like Louis C.K. who are known for their edgier routines to say something they know will get a reaction out of everybody, good or bad.
Because over time, Americans have forgotten that the word literally just means "Black". The word (Or derivatives of it) appears all over the world, in many languages and goes back thousands of years, without any kind of negative connotations or insult behind it, it was/is no more offensive than saying "Red" or "Turquoise" to 99% of the planet. However, in the years leading up to the American Civil War, the tone it was said in changed to one of derision and that new tonality caused the meaning to change from merely descriptive to antagonistic to American ears. It is entirely possible that in 100 years, should an identical tonality change take place, using the word "Black" to describe a person could be just as frowned upon.
It's like "The R-Word", it is purely a medical term but once it began being used as an insult, the push to stop that word started. The only difference is that R took on it's new alternate context relatively recently so it's still in the early stages of its inevitable death and we can see first-hand how an innocuous word gets warped, complained about and eventually begins fading.
Humans are a strange species that assign power to words and objects where it doesn't really exist. Whether a mere word has power over you or not is determined completely by subjective, personal psychology and there now exists a culture where they are taught from birth that certain words have this mystical "Power" regardless of context or their true historical definitions and that these subjective interpretations and emotional reactions override objectivity, or in some cases that merely having a subjective response causes said response to automatically become an objective truth itself. The fact that people are constantly told that the word is offensive and upsetting, while the very people who make this claim use it in every other sentence, on top of the idea that an entire group of people are 'banned' from saying the word based on nothing but their skin tone (An incredibly racist concept in itself), in addition to racism in the opposite direction being seemingly fine, creates a weird dissonance around the word that doesn't make any real logical sense and separates it out from others. Plenty of other words will find themselves in the same position, this one has just been going through the process for longer so the hysteria, contradictions and cultural emotional effects are more pronounced.
@@BunniMonster it’s not about the etymology of the word it’s the current meaning behind it. Everyone knows it came from a word that meant black
@@stonefaceBRC
"it’s not about the etymology of the word it’s the current meaning behind it."
If you read past the first two lines, you'd see I said that its context had changed. The entire point of giving the etymology was to show how, when and why the definition changed within American culture and why it's held to a different standard. I was answering the guy's question by providing some actual information and not just saying "Because it's the baddest of bad words", which is no answer at all.
"Everyone knows it came from a word that meant black"
No they don't. I've seen countless people claim that the word was literally created to be dehumanising and insulting. In fact, amongst the vast majority of people on UA-cam that I've encountered discussing the origins of the word, this has been the dominant theory.
@@BunniMonster btw next on the list is autistic. Since being called an autist is the newest internet insult. Gonna be fun to see what being autistic ends up being referred to as later.
You have every right to be offended. It's your history, not mine.
Louis ck is not racist at all and anybody who fully understood even the shortest of his bits knows that. Really doesn't take a genius to realize that
Well said, to be offended and label someone racist from satire is ridiculous.
As a h-white guy, lemme tell ya my opinion. Ahem, to me, only to ME, when a person says " a nigga fell asleep ..... Blah blah blah" all I hear is, "this 'mufucka' fell asleep" no racial inclination whatsoever. So to me, unless the context, which I can tell immediately, if it's racist or not, if someone says 'nigger' or ' nigga' I ain't got no problem w it. Now if ur asking me WILL I SAY IT?? NEVER EVER EVER EVER. THATS just bc I don't even go there. I'll say " this mu'fucka"
Just because someone saying the n word, in very much context... You totally missed the fact that this joke is a. Funny and b. Actually anti racist in such a cleaver way.
And this joke couldn't be made sayin "n word" since he quote people and the edge of the joke is that the n word is presenting there.
This is such a well balanced joke that only a fine artist like lewis ck could make
It’s simple. You cannot tell this joke without the word. The joke is about the word in the context of our society.
He's Spanish/Hungarian? and wrote pootie-tang
It’s a fuckin word, don’t let it own you.
No worries, its nice to hear about different experiences.
...story time...when I was in highschool I heard my first racist jokes...it was me (a light skinned Mexican), Gracia (a white boy Mexican with green eyes and blond hair), Regan (an adopted Mexican by a white family who was hairy AF and looked Greek), and Pete (the real OG American white guy but was as dark as a Sri Lankan)...so Pete's telling us all these racist jokes about black guys and we laughin our asses off...then he says he's got a Mexican one...he asks me and Gracia if it's OK if he tells it...I was a little hesitant like our brothas here, but Gracia immediately said it was OK...before I said anything, Pete told his joke..."Why do Mexicans have Tamales for Christmas?"..."so they have something to open on Christmas morning"...fookin Gracia laughed the loudest...Regan chuckled...I grunted...I was bothered but didn't say anything...Pete noticed and apologized...we moved on and had a great summer...later in life I thought about it...I was a fookin hypocrite!...I laugh at the black guy jokes, but didn't like it when it was put on us...and Pete wasn't a bad guy, he was cool AF...but someone taught him those jokes...and now that I think back, they were fookin funny...but every time I eat a tamal, I think about Pete...lol...
Hes comfortable saying it in context of a joke,hes not using it towards someone in a racist way and if it was dumbed down to the n word the joke would loose itself
Do you guys get that he’s not just say8g these things for laughs?
That these jokes that he does about race are deliberately trying to fight against racism?
That the laughs are just the way he gets the audience to accept his chastisement against racism?
And if you do does that impact how you feel when you hear him say it?
And I only ask because your commentary spoke ONLY about the laughs as justification. So it seemed like the fact that that word isn’t in there for the laugh it’s in there for the point of the joke.
Thanks for your input, white guy
@@M3333C input is when you make a statement. What I was doing was asking questions.
Dumb guy.
@@M3333C thanks for crying....baby
@@boogiemane1089 - white person
I understand there being backlash when white people are more offended by a black joke than black people, but it always makes me confused when I see black people getting backlash for it, they’re the ones that have a right to be offended the most out of anyone
I think this whole bit was an inside joke within the comedy world. He was challenged to say it x number of times in his act like meow in supertroopers.
The whole point of the joke was that no one was able to understand that the issue Louis and his friend has was that people were calling a black co-worker a n...People only cared about the man falling asleep on the forklift.
I like the point you made about people who get offended AT people getting offended. That's always been stupid.
im white and i dont think its appropriate to call a black person that to their face to degrade them but for comedy sake not directed at anyone its just a word.
Comedians have diplomatic immunity. If they can lead us to a great laugh or great insight that is so diamond crystal clear that we laugh because we didn't see it earlier. They're not only off the hook but they are more thoroughly understood. Like Carlin said, "The words are not bad in themselves, it's all about context." Intent has so much to do with it. Some points cannot be made without the subject being identified. What are we gonna do, talk around it? There's a word for that, "Circumlocution'. Because it is obscure, it's a euphemism. Can't address it without naming it. Comedians get "Carte Blanche", unless they fall short. Then we can eviscerate them!
Calling someone the n word>saying the n word.
The producer you called Ted Cruz was Cedric the Entertainer. Ya missed it.
Black, my color is black, it goes with literally everything, makes my look dripped out. Mainly cuz my wardrobe is 50 shades of black so everything matches
There are no "black jokes within the white community".. just the racist community. It wasn't side-splitting hilarious but as far as true stories go I think it was worth sharing on stage, I dont think Louie was insensitive in his use of the N word and the whole story was about frustration toward racist white people.
Your dry reaction just added another layer to that joke.
I always wanted to see an actual opinion about this joke by the people it affects the most. So thanks so much for posting. I'mma subscribe.
Personally, I think it's just words, but also, it affects people in a negative way and it costs folks NOTHING AT ALL to not use it. So why not just not use it at all??? It costs nothing to be kind.
Louis C.K. is the king of comedy. He doesn't give a fuck, he says whatever he wants and that's hilarious. But admittedly this isn't one of his best skits.
I'm a white guy and I took it as a funny take on how people missed the point on both sides. It didn't come across as gratuitous to me but I could be wrong.
"White people can use the word but the joke has to be funny".... Isn't it about intent though? If your intent is to be funny, and the joke fails, in theory it should get a pass. Patrice said that in both instances, funny comes from the same place. If it's not a funny joke, the comedian is guilty not only of sounding racist, but also being 'not funny'.
Earliest I've been in my life. 53 seconds is a record
Cyan
The red hood is the type that smells racism everywhere
Whole entire joke about people of multiple races entirely missing a point and the people watching it totally miss the point. 🤦♂️