@@ayushkumarsingh3038 Especially since Cale? Kale? Thought she was beating Goku in SSJ God while she was SSJ2. Gohan should feel happy. He was the first to hit that kind of power. She flaunts it, but Gohan was the first to master it
This is actually the human potential. Gohan is tapping from human resources (obviously, this was unlocked by the Ancestor Elder Kaiohshin), and not from Saiyan resources. Now imagine Krillin's full potential as human if the elder could unlock it like he did with Gohan. Or even Tenshinhan.
@@TonyStarkCLC it would be no where even close as strong as gohans potential. i imagine krilling or tien would get a transformation equal to ssj at the very least, considering that powerup 100% depends on your latent ability. gohan is the perfect specimen for the awakening because its been noted he has the highest potential out of everyone. vegeta has acknowledged this many times throughout Z and in super as well. Also if you think back to namek saga, when the elder namek released krillin and gohans potential, krillin didnt get as much as a boost compared to kid gohan because the latent ability wasnt there in comparison for krillin.
@@VGGamess I know. This Gohan is so ultra-focused and serious... and also super strong!!! Although I'd rather his strength would have come from a second form above the mystic form, still this also makes sense. Now I admit, the fact that he's strong enough to go toe to toe with Kefla is stretching it. I wouldn't think he'd be THAT powerful. Afterall, Kale had become stronger than her berserk form which is already ridiculous. Caulifla had gone SSJ2, so now their fused which made their combined power significantly magnified. But then Kefla turned SSJ and her power is on another level! So given that she's way stronger now than a Kaioken SSB, I'm not seeing how Gohan is that strong. Seems they merely brought Kefla down a couple notches and brought Gohan up alot. The only reason this would make sense is if Gohan truly did reach a new level of power higher than Mystic while he was training before the tournament. That's a concept I really like. Either way this Gohan is the true Gohan we wanted - the perfect blend between the current Gohan who is intelligent and calculating, and future Gohan who had a true warrior's spirit and a level of courage above even what we've seen in the other Z fighters (I guess now it's S fighters lol). I think this is the Gohan we always wanted. And to see his dad become very impressed with his skills! That was truly the cherry on top and icing on the cake. Now if we could see what Vegeta thought of Gohan...
@@chickbowdrie4750 I don't understand why you are bringing blue kaioken into this manga fight. Manga Kefla is weaker, kale nor caulifla have ssj2, gohan actually kept up hus training and blue kaioken doesn't exist in the manga mastered/perfected blue does
The fact that Gohan was able to train with Piccolo for a few HOURS and was able to match Kefla’s Power, after not training for years is really astonishing
It is more astonishing the other way around. These are characters who didn't even know what SSJ was yesterday in universe and they are already throwing hands with Gohan.
@@jajo3203Anime Kefla is stronger then Manga Kefla despite the fact she can transform into Super Saiyan 2 and Manga Kefla was only shown as a Super Saiyan and in fact was born a Super Saiyan as well.
I like how gohan had his old clothes on and how he actually got a good fight. It lowkey was a fair fight because there is no way kefla could fight against uu goku. And it gave gohan more screen time. They should have went with da manga all the way through
Ahhhhh this is the Gohan I want! And I love that Gohan is deciding to go a different route for power. That's dope af to me. I really hope they develop his character more as well in the anime. Give my boi his shine back!
I like how Gohan in the Manga has his Purple outfit instead of the Goku outfit, i don't know why but it does help to set him apart from his father character-wise.
@@PureGamingpro it happened during the tournament of power but just in the manga not the anime, even thou the story ends the same way they always manage to change it a lil bit so people don’t get bored, like for example, in the anime Vegeta became Super Saiyan God for the first time in the Broly movie, but in the manga Vegeta became super saiyan god in the TOP for the first time...
Let you know the Dragon ball super manga chapter of Gohan vs Kefla was actually written months AFTER final anime episode. The anime could not be faithful to the manga because the chapter was not written. It is different where in other anime adaptations they tried to catch up to their manga counterparts but the Dragon Ball super manga was written after the anime itself.
I really like this because Kefla should be really strong given the legendary part of the fusion and at the same time, Gohan would be stronger than Goku but hasn't kept up with training so it pays respect to both of them.
Legendary Super Saiyan isn’t a real thing is it? I thought that was just the old Broly movie that did that. Cuz in the DBS Broly movie the green hair is called “full power super saiyan” but idrk
Nah. Shes no legendary. People who don't read the manga will confuse this iteration of Kafla. The one shown here is a union of caulifla and kale. Shes not a legendary saiyan. As pointed out by Cabba, shes a "demon" saiyan. Demon saiyans will ultimately die due to exhaustion. And as pointed out by Vegeta, her moves are really slow and it's really easy to tackle her once you get the hang of it. Plus, this gohan had been training under Piccolo before the whole "Goku getting the ToP announced". So yeah, this Kafka is different and weaker (but very accurate in power levels). So yeah, that's that. Finally, even the author didnt want her to be disgustingly strong as shown in the anime. And adds another reason why I prefer the manga.
@@TayyabKhan-hh6kx she is called legendary on the manga, but the whole "legendary" and "demon" thing is mostly because these types of Saiyajins are very rare, they are just mutants like King Vegeta said about Broly. Anime Gohan was training before ToP too, you can see him training before Champa tournament. And manga Kefla is really weaker but it's because both Caulifla and Kale were already weak before fusing, Kale was even sleeping, and manga Kefla doesn't have Ssj2 like her anime counterpart too
@@thatboychris9990 Broly has different forms since they’re combine with his wrath form which is why his forms are strong but a bit too strong actually I take that back Kale was too weak
This is way better than the anime both of them are really strong and perfect training buddy's if gohan starts training again also I was crying and smiling at the end of the fight they both took out each other
@@jasonone8726 Well to be fair gohan grows exceptionally stronger just from brief fights with people near his level. His potential is ridiculous, he went from barely being able to wear weights to being on par with the gammas who are at least blue level in the span of less than an hour. It makes sense he got so strong in the ToP I think him being kefla level makes a lot of sense.
I said this awhile back and I haven't seen anyone mention it, I really feel that in DBZ Toriyama was trying to do something with Half saiyan hybrids that was different than full blood saiyans. Saiyan Hybrids catch onto the transformations way faster and in terms of Gohan he doesn't even need to transform to access the power SSJ1, SSJ2 or above would give him. I feel like Toriyama wanted to give Gohan his own power up's outside of the Saiyan transformations because there was a lot of mentioning in the lore about half blood saiyans. Now we have in the manga Gohan saiying this? that he chooses to evolve as a human and not rely on the saiyan power ups? I feel like the play here is that saiyan hybrids don't need the transformation (or at least Gohan due to his potential) to keep growing and Gohan gets the best of both humans and Saiyans making him better BUT they kinda cut all that off in the Buu Saga for their complaints against Gohan overtaking Goku's spot. Gohan is the 3rd strongest of the bunch, but he could be way stronger if they allowed him to be. They can give Gohan Ultra Balance. Goku has Ultra instinct, Vegeta has Ultra Ego, we know Gohan and his anger, we also know he can be extremely calm and tactical, so why not something in between both OR give him something of his own since Broly and Jiren don't use Ultra anything and were strong as heck against Goku and Vegeta.
Gohan is a prodigy and when he became Ultimate Gohan he unlocked his unlimited power but still had more training etc to really tap into it. Hopefully he gets an arc that really does him justice.
@@ceaser2124 DBS: Super Hero is probably going to show that gohan has learned how to push the Ultimate state further by enhancing it with his Saiyan blood. Here he is denying that side of him to advance as a human. His next path of growth is to accept he is half human and half saiyan. So his next "transformation" would be pushing the Ultimate/Mystic form beyong just being human, but being what he really is, a hybrid. Think of it like SSJB, if SSJB is the Super Saiyna for of Super Saiyan God, Gohan's new form witll be the Super Saiyan for of Ultimate/Mystic
I'd say, this is a more realistic fight. I think anime Kelfa was buffed way too much. There's no way 2 fused Saiyans who just transformed could match up to UI Goku that fast.
I don’t think the anime had the part where Champa actually told Kale and Caulifla they did well. Super unfortunate considering how much it shows his character to have changed.
@@Deathmare235 after roshi got eliminated by him showing "how to move" he seemed slightly depressed and he realised to reflect on everything every master had taught him.. that is how he got ultra instinct. not some spirit bomb that should have been bounced back.
It really does summarize how strong Potential Unleashed really is (or was he in base form??) and it makes Super Hero seem a lot more legit seeing as it kinda blends the continuities of both the anime and the manga in some ways
I think Gohan’s potential mostly comes because there’s power humans have in DB that we haven’t understood yet. Something drawn out from his human side that humans don’t know they have that maybe shown because he has Saiyan DNA.
Saiyans evolve as they fight.. gohan is already shown to be talented his saiyan power is higher than normal kind of like broly. Vegeta and nappa did state half breeds were talented way back in z. Comparable to genetic mutations even like broly. Little trivia: during that scene with nappa and vegeta they stated that gohan could be a super saiyan and it's the first mention of the phrase super saiyan.
however! it's meant differently it was more of a "super Saiyan" a Saiyan stronger than normal what we know now, is a "Super Saiyan", the transformation the difference is clear because of how they write the two in japanese, using two different kanji iirc
dbz producer or whoever animate super should take notes on this if toriyama did it that was excellent display of two warriors not worrying about their universe but fight. Why didnt we get this in super
‘cause Toriyama gave them a storyboard , and Toei Animation should animate it and add new material to make it longer and thus the tournament of power anime version was made it, besides the manga Toyotaro watched some anime incoherences and decided make his own fights but short, because Toriyama was pressuring him for the time, and basically Those were Toyotaro’s ideas and about why it didn’t happen in the anime that was why Toei Animation had no reference point nor exactly script and They improvised.
U don't know Gohan, He is the real deal. If he didn't give up on training he could've been stronger as UI. The writers knew it From the start that's why they made him lame. I'mma real Gohan fan, I'm gonna protect his image ❤️❤️❤️
Realistically speaking, Gohan should’ve been at the very least equal to Goku at the start of DBS. He got nerfed hard because the writers are either too scared or too lazy to write him in the story.
In all my life I’ve always believed 2 things A.The sky is blue B.Gohan was useless in super But now I finally die knowing he actually did something worth talking about.
Well, he was the strongest character in the whole buu even in dbz battle of gods until Goku goes SSG. Plus, he's the only saiyan who can get very strong very fast alongside Broly.
This is what should have happened in the anime. Yeah, Goku fighting Kefka in UI Omen was cool. But by the time it came around again it just felt exhausted. They should have gave Gohan his moment. It was cool seeing him team up with Frieza, but this is completely different. This is Gohan on his own going up against Kefla. This is a fight we wanted to see in the ToP!
The nerve of Kefla, who only learned about super Saiyan like weeks before, asking Gohan if he can even transform… The man reached super Saiyan level 2 when he was like 10!
@@adityasalunkhe1288 the same kale that goku easily clapped with just ssj god in anime ?? , took her full force beam head on with 0 damaged WHILE HE WAS ALREADY EXHAUSTED
Toyotaro got more of this old school dragon ball vibe than the story writers of the anime... He also made gohan wear picolo attire. It gives off that bad ass vibe of cell saga. It even tore the same way
It's insane how busted Gohan actually is, considering he can easily catch up and even outpace Goku who needs God-Level transformations just to fight some of his enemies while Gohan just needs to unlock more of what he already had. Goku needed an imperfect Ultra Instinct to fight Kefla, while Gohans stands as an equal without such power. That's insane.
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Whenever I see the Dragonball Manga, I remember that Toei and Toyo don’t know what they’re doing when it comes to anime, and Toriyama is the only one of them that does LMAO
@@DigitalWraith well Gohan dragged the fight out with cell so if u were trying to say Gohan straight kills his opponent you couldn't be more wrong. In dbz when a character reaches a new super saiyan form they were almost arrogant and their saiyan traits shined brighter. Goku in ssj Gohan ssj2 and goku ssj3 were all arrogant. Even ultimate Gohan or mystic was beyond arrogant and cost him the fight. What I meant by Gohan showing saiyan traits was the fact he stepped up to battle an opponent his lvl or stronger. Gohan has basically always been in position by some asspull that he is stronger than the villain. With raditz garlic Jr and cell. It was never saiyan traits but human traits of emotion that made him stronger but since dbz shined in the 90s when all shows wanted to make hybrids so strong (i.e Yusuke in yuyuhakusho or inuyasha) Gohan benefited from just common Shonen trend. Gohan was an asspull character that was gifted power ups. Sorry for the rant lol
@@justacoolguy336 In Cell's case, he wasn't dragging out the fight to enjoy the battle, like a Saiyan. He was dragging out the fight just to make Cell suffer. As for his fight with Boo, he was just being arrogant. He wasn't fighting out of enjoyment like Goku would. Looking at how Gohan kept taunting him, it's clear he just wanted to upset Boo. Gohan stepping up to battle someone as strong or stronger isn't a Saiyan trait. It is a warrior's trait. All the earthlings have been seen doing the same thing. The same goes for Piccolo. You're wrong again. Gohan getting stronger with rage isn't an earthling trait. It is due to his Saiyan/Earthling blend that allows his power to grow based on his rage. No earthling has this trait. Also, Saiyans fall under the category of humans. They just aren't earthlings.
@@DigitalWraith no Gohan dragged that cell fight out for his enjoyment. He wanted to make cell suffer? For killing the andriod? Lol Gohan was enjoying the fact he was stronger even after goku told him to kill cell he just smiled it off practically scaring even goku how he was acting lol thats not someone who just wants to make cell suffer. The buu fight he even let the kids get a chance because he was so sure of his power almost like vegeta when he let cell go find 18 that was the confidence that oozed out of him thats a saiyan trait fool. You're talking about warrior trait but that's obviously comes from a saiyan. Piccolo didn't run up on buu or friezas final form or cell so wtf are u talking about warrior traits? You're lost. 😆
@@justacoolguy336 Really? Then why did Gohan specify say that he wants to make Cell suffer for what he did? His statements contradict your views. And yes, he wanted Cell to suffer for killing an Android. That was the trigger for his Super Saiyan 2 transformation. Seems you are the lost one. The example you just provided with Gohan letting Gotenks fight Boo is yet again, an example of him being arrogant. It also contradicts your assumption that he was fighting for the enjoyment. Because if that was the case, Gohan would have argued with Gotenks over who gets to fight Boo. Instead, he was being cocky. Likely thinking that if Gotenks fails, he'll just finish Boo off himself. If Gohan knew Boo could absorb people, he never would have let Gotenks fight. Gohan's situation was nothing like Vegeta letting Cell absorb 18. You must be trolling. Actually Piccolo did fight Freeza's final form. The earthlings showed up to fight the Androids too. Also did you forget that Krillen tried to fight Boo on the Lookout? Have you've never watched Dragon Ball? The earthlings have always gone up against fighters as strong or stronger. Even the Saiyan arc shows them doing this. You are so confused, it's hilarious. 😂
He doesn't have to anymore. Since the end of DBZ he's not had to transform. They made him use SSJ for the Freiza movie because he was supposedly rusty but it still doesn't make any sense because it's not a form. Gohans potential is unlocked so it seems he doesn't need forms anymore to access the power the form would give him. All he needs is the training to be able to reach higher power or in another way of saying expand the power he could access.
Even though we would be missed out on one the most epic Kamehameha finishers since Z, I feel this battle makes much more sense. Gohan's sacrifice here is a far better character development point for him over the elimination of Dyspo. Pride Troopers in their entirely should've been left to Goku, Vegeta, Frieza, and 17.
Man I'm gonna start reading more Manga! So much better! If they actually made the show like the Manga it wouldn't just be the best, it would be the greatest. 🔥
@@Cay9z That comparison, makes no sense at all bro, not liking the nba, doesn't mean staying off the Internet, there's other things to do on the Internet, just don't watch it. I obviously meant, why are you on this video? Not the Internet lol
This would been perfect instead of ultra instinct goku fighting her and also they should add gohan his blanco hair like in the anime but with outfit from the manga so we can see that he's in his ultimate form, the fact that they both knock each other out is even more impressive
Why didn’t they do this in the anime my God what better writing in the manga than the animation 👏🏽 I’d rewatch the fight with goku and kale and yes it was dope but for character development for Gohan to eliminate U6 that justifies how much stronger he’s gotten and how more serious his training has gotten until we get to Super Hero
For those who don't understand, yes, Gohan was in his Ultimate form as he says there's no need for turning Super Saiyan anymore plus Gohan's are fully outlined, which is supposed to be an indication of Gohan being in his Ultimate form, but _Dragon Ball GT,_ the _Dragon Ball Super_ TV anime, and a few other series have been inconsistent on that part as base Gohan's eyes are drawn as if he was using his Ultimate form. I appreciate this issue being corrected in _Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero._ Anyway, Gohan is telling Kefla that he doesn't go Super Saiyan anymore and actually doesn't need to anyway because he has already chosen to go a different route of evolution and sought his own path. This route of evolution different from what Saiyans can naturally do is Gohan's Ultimate form. His Ultimate form draws out the entirety of his potential while the Super Saiyan forms only draw out portions of it. With all of his potential and more drawn out, there's nothing left for the Super Saiyan forms to tap into, so they wouldn't offer any boost.
@@jasonone8726 In the original manga and _Dragon Ball Z_ TV series, Ultimate Gohan is a transformation as Goku and Piccolo both indicate there were physical changes to Gohan and that, according to Piccolo, the type of ki Gohan had was different, just like how Super Saiyans have a type of ki than regular Saiyans (or base-form Saiyans). In the original manga and _Dragon Ball Z_ TV series, Gohan's Ultimate form was a permanent state because the physical changes that manifested after he triggered the power-up remained with him even in moments/scenes where he had no reason to be in a transformed state, such as after the group had all gathered at Kami's Temple following the defeat of Kid Buu and then ten years later during (and the day before) the 28th Tenka'ichi Budōkai. In _Dragon Ball Z_ movies 13 and 14, the _Dragon Ball Super_ television series, the _Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero_ movie, and _Dragon Ball GT,_ Ultimate Gohan is no longer a permanent state and just another transformation Gohan could switch on and off (like Super Saiyan of course). Heck, in _GT,_ there was no Ultimate Gohan despite Gohan's eyes being fully outlined in his base form like in his Ultimate form.
@@DarthKamui Nope they both mentioned that there is no transformation and it is explicitly stated to not be one. The thing that shocks them is the pure power Gohan has.
@Armon Butler No, this is Mystic Gohan, when he's in base form, his eyes aren't connected like Goku's. Mystic was originally meant to be his permanent base form and not a transformation, like how the movies and anime makes it. The manga is sticking to what it's supposed to be.
I like the Goku vs Kefla fight but this would have been better. It would have been a better send off for Gohan than what he got in the anime that's for sure.
@@Boltz4 Caulifla was too overpowered in the anime, Kale at least in the manga, knew how to fight in base form and her berzerk design, wasn't a complete Broly rip off.
You have to realize what we just seen of Gohan, saiyans have natural enhanced fighting abilities than normal but when a Saiyan goes ssj ,that increases there Saiyan sensing abilities as well it's the same like kaioken but better , Gohan may have a natural upgrade in perception due to being mystic and having Saiyan blood but he was fighting a sayian who was transformed in a sayian state meaning when they fought they were supposed to be evenly matched in power but as far as fight senses you will think that kefla had the advantage especially in fusion which really shows how truly awesome of a fighter Gohan is meanwhile he just started training again compared to the full blooded universe 6 saiyans who engaged in lots of combat recently before the tournament, Gohan is a true prodigy showing that his mind , power and fighting abilities can even combat a Saiyan Ina transformed state with heighten sensing fighting abilities , if you can understand that you will see how awesome Gohan was in this fight
Mystic / ultimate is not a form its his potential unleashed, the kais already told everyone that he's at his *strongest* transforming is pointless it wastes energy. Gohan is fighting two amateurs who're basically Goku and Vegeta at their best in Z, Gohan during Z surpassed both of them including buu he treated him like he was fodder. Kefla is using only a fully powered SSJ2 and berserker state saiyan with no control he pretty much is fighting Vegito with Brolys power which means Gohan got another zenkai somewhere and with his experience trounced them both.
@@bellattery not really , mystic form is a form it's just a magical form that allows all potential to be unleashed in a trained state where it becomes its own better base form for you and once mastered than you will use it like Gohan where it's always on call but the super sayian transformation still has it's other abilities as I said in my comment which is why I said what I said , amateur or not kefla is still a Saiyan a fused one and also mixed with universe 6 legendary ssj mode so that's alot of power and super sayian ability prowess going on inside her and her own potential , ssj gives it's abilities to break limits as well with their emotions,feelings and intuitions which is why Goku sometimes ask Gohan why he doesn't use his ssj form but Gohan is creating his own vibes and he's emotional enough to use his sayian hybrid powers to break other levels but it seems he likes to keep a clear mind sometime and with his childhood ,his childhood is probably part of the reason he also prefers his mystic form besides the no stamina drain but nonetheless my comment was to show you how much Gohan was fighting against where he just started training again
@@bellattery but yes he has shown his experience is not for nothing but kefla in her unfused state, they are not untrained as well but Gohan showed why he is Gohan which was my point
@@thothgold2768 What your saying is head canon you need to pay more attention to what the show explained instead of only believing what you hear and see respecting your right to opinion but what you're stating is incorrect. Again the kais already told the audience and Z warriors that he no longer needs to transform anymore his potential has been unleashed and now he can access all his eneergy without transformning, the elder Kai specifically brought up it only wastes energy and you don't need to do it unless its for intimidation *it's not a transformation* Kefla is mixed with aberserker saiyan and its not really special as it has a limit to how much enenrgy it can handle or else risk exploding. Kefla has limits and SSJ doesn't give a user special abilitites all it does is hieighten up the saiyans cells and give them aburst of energy that they're holding onto tus why there is something alled *full powered* Super Saiyan way back when Cell fought Goku during the Cell games. Kefla got her ass kicked and enough screen time she had no chance beating goku at his prime condition and he proved it he easily countered everything she did and two shot her with a kamehameha wave Kale only manage to resist it and outmuscle it into another direction but it took everything she had SSJ form isn't that special nor berserker hell the universe 11 team almost wiped out both kefla and Kale even with SSJ2 and berserker state but *plot* help them survive.
@@thothgold2768 Kefla is untrained, she only has small battles with untapped energy within her because of her living conditions Akira specifically stated S cells develop because of their way of living she obviously has more S cells due to her kindness and Kale having a ton more because of it. Gohans experience and many great battles proved he outmatched them both at their prime.
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Gohan saying he doesnt need to go super anymore to Kefla who's been snorting transformations is just so badass to me
LOL I love this comment.
Snorting transformations is the most accurate description of her performance in ToP
@@ayushkumarsingh3038 Especially since Cale? Kale? Thought she was beating Goku in SSJ God while she was SSJ2. Gohan should feel happy. He was the first to hit that kind of power. She flaunts it, but Gohan was the first to master it
This is actually the human potential. Gohan is tapping from human resources (obviously, this was unlocked by the Ancestor Elder Kaiohshin), and not from Saiyan resources.
Now imagine Krillin's full potential as human if the elder could unlock it like he did with Gohan. Or even Tenshinhan.
@@TonyStarkCLC it would be no where even close as strong as gohans potential. i imagine krilling or tien would get a transformation equal to ssj at the very least, considering that powerup 100% depends on your latent ability. gohan is the perfect specimen for the awakening because its been noted he has the highest potential out of everyone. vegeta has acknowledged this many times throughout Z and in super as well.
Also if you think back to namek saga, when the elder namek released krillin and gohans potential, krillin didnt get as much as a boost compared to kid gohan because the latent ability wasnt there in comparison for krillin.
I'm going to imagine this Gohan existed in the anime and finally rest my soul.
lol
Why do they continue to shy away from what was already written... they got ma boi gohan strugglin in super😭
@@VGGamess yeah they did
@@VGGamess I know. This Gohan is so ultra-focused and serious... and also super strong!!! Although I'd rather his strength would have come from a second form above the mystic form, still this also makes sense.
Now I admit, the fact that he's strong enough to go toe to toe with Kefla is stretching it. I wouldn't think he'd be THAT powerful. Afterall, Kale had become stronger than her berserk form which is already ridiculous. Caulifla had gone SSJ2, so now their fused which made their combined power significantly magnified. But then Kefla turned SSJ and her power is on another level! So given that she's way stronger now than a Kaioken SSB, I'm not seeing how Gohan is that strong. Seems they merely brought Kefla down a couple notches and brought Gohan up alot.
The only reason this would make sense is if Gohan truly did reach a new level of power higher than Mystic while he was training before the tournament. That's a concept I really like. Either way this Gohan is the true Gohan we wanted - the perfect blend between the current Gohan who is intelligent and calculating, and future Gohan who had a true warrior's spirit and a level of courage above even what we've seen in the other Z fighters (I guess now it's S fighters lol). I think this is the Gohan we always wanted. And to see his dad become very impressed with his skills! That was truly the cherry on top and icing on the cake. Now if we could see what Vegeta thought of Gohan...
@@chickbowdrie4750 I don't understand why you are bringing blue kaioken into this manga fight. Manga Kefla is weaker, kale nor caulifla have ssj2, gohan actually kept up hus training and blue kaioken doesn't exist in the manga mastered/perfected blue does
The fact that Gohan was able to train with Piccolo for a few HOURS and was able to match Kefla’s Power, after not training for years is really astonishing
It is more astonishing the other way around. These are characters who didn't even know what SSJ was yesterday in universe and they are already throwing hands with Gohan.
@@spritvio639 I mean they're fused and one of them is the legendary super Saiyan. Have you seen how fast Broly adapts and grows stronger?
It may be different in the Manga But In the anime Gohan asks Piccolo to retrain him after Frieza almost kills him so it was more than a few hours
@@jajo3203Anime Kefla is stronger then Manga Kefla despite the fact she can transform into Super Saiyan 2 and Manga Kefla was only shown as a Super Saiyan and in fact was born a Super Saiyan as well.
@@henkaistudio Uh Why you telling me this😭
This is the gohan we all once loved.
The Gohan we deserved in the anime
Yes we do
@@cinemanimetheories3040 i wish the anime didn't nerf gohan i hope in the dragon ball movie 2022 they get Gohan stronger then his dad
@@calmcat3642 it at lest give him god ki
@@calmcat3642 not stronger bc we all know thats not gonna happen but at least be able to compare to ui
@calm cat No, it would make absolute, no sense at all, for him to surpass Goku, not until he trains more.
I like how gohan had his old clothes on and how he actually got a good fight. It lowkey was a fair fight because there is no way kefla could fight against uu goku. And it gave gohan more screen time. They should have went with da manga all the way through
Like broly being better than beerus makes sese
@HyūgaToni awl
@@ruel762 I think they’ve gone back on that right?
@@ruel762 he's not
Kefla could've turned SSJ3 in the anime and she STILL wouldn't have been a match for Ultra Instinct Goku. They buffed her far too much in the anime.
Now this is the same man who fought Cell and Buu
Cell Max
Ahhhhh this is the Gohan I want!
And I love that Gohan is deciding to go a different route for power. That's dope af to me. I really hope they develop his character more as well in the anime. Give my boi his shine back!
Gohan beast🙏🔥🔥🔥
@@Raptor727 I call him Beast Gohan.
I like how Gohan in the Manga has his Purple outfit instead of the Goku outfit, i don't know why but it does help to set him apart from his father character-wise.
Gohan and piccolo watching goku ui and kefla fight:its a battle between 2 titans
Gohan:your forgetting a 3rd one
This is the Gohan who fought Super Buu, Amazing
The anime one was the one who fought buutenks
@@Deathmare235 Nappa*
@@__-lu3xy he wasn’t meant to be wrecking the villains not back then
@@Deathmare235 Huh?
@@j04370859 a 5 year old boy isn't meant to be wrecking villains, but gohans age against buu and buutenks, that's when he was supposed to kick ass
Gohan was a beast on this chapter 💯💯💯
i cant wait for him to be a bad ass again cuz he didnt shine too much on the moro's arc, maybe in the anime
@@cinemanimetheories3040 but when did this fight happen. I’m confused
@@PureGamingpro it happened during the tournament of power but just in the manga not the anime, even thou the story ends the same way they always manage to change it a lil bit so people don’t get bored, like for example, in the anime Vegeta became Super Saiyan God for the first time in the Broly movie, but in the manga Vegeta became super saiyan god in the TOP for the first time...
@@cinemanimetheories3040 that's the first time he became a Super Saiyan God?... didn't he use Super Saiyan God in the Goku black Arc
@@User_Here414 yep he did
Only thing missing is Gohan’s bang for his hair. Kinda like how the anime gave him the bang back to signify that he had his ultimate strength back.
The manga treated it differently. Ultimate was originally back in Z, his base form, not a transformation. The manga stuck to that.
Without bang he looks like yamcha
After looking at this and thinking about what gohan COULD have done in the anime.. DAMN THEY REALLY SCREWED OUR BOI OVER
This is why the manga is better and DBZ was more faithful to the manga hopefully DBS2 will be more faithful to the manga
Are u sure goku call gohan that little shit in mnga
Let you know the Dragon ball super manga chapter of Gohan vs Kefla was actually written months AFTER final anime episode. The anime could not be faithful to the manga because the chapter was not written. It is different where in other anime adaptations they tried to catch up to their manga counterparts but the Dragon Ball super manga was written after the anime itself.
@@leezhouwen359 sadly strong gohan and ultra instinct master Roshi are non existent in the anime now because of that
@@leezhouwen359 manga still better
@@leezhouwen359 it’s like Akame ga kill and fullmetal alchemist
this is the GOHAN that we need.
I prefer this over the anime version, puts more character into gohan and shows how stronk he is.
Anime only focuses on goku most of the time which is sad, kefla fight should’ve been manga version
Anime only focuses on goku most of the time which is sad, kefla fight should’ve been manga version
@@nightarcher55 you said that twice but i respect what you said
@@nightarcher55 they left this because anime came before this chapter was released
@NightArcher55 Actually, the manga focused less on the side character, than the anime, we got a lot more Gohan, than in the manga lol
I love how in the beginning Jiren looked at Gohan like “I see u Saiyan, respecting the fight”
I've never hated toei more than I do now they left this out?
The anime came way before the manga
@@ma_na_gurab after
@@shanks1148 na it came before
@@ma_na_gurab no the anime was ahead of the manga for a bit thats why they left this out
@@shanks1148 So what you're saying is... it came before
I really like this because Kefla should be really strong given the legendary part of the fusion and at the same time, Gohan would be stronger than Goku but hasn't kept up with training so it pays respect to both of them.
Legendary Super Saiyan isn’t a real thing is it? I thought that was just the old Broly movie that did that. Cuz in the DBS Broly movie the green hair is called “full power super saiyan” but idrk
@@thatboychris9990 DBS manga say Kale is a legendary saiyan, born once in 1000 years
Nah. Shes no legendary. People who don't read the manga will confuse this iteration of Kafla. The one shown here is a union of caulifla and kale. Shes not a legendary saiyan. As pointed out by Cabba, shes a "demon" saiyan. Demon saiyans will ultimately die due to exhaustion. And as pointed out by Vegeta, her moves are really slow and it's really easy to tackle her once you get the hang of it. Plus, this gohan had been training under Piccolo before the whole "Goku getting the ToP announced". So yeah, this Kafka is different and weaker (but very accurate in power levels). So yeah, that's that. Finally, even the author didnt want her to be disgustingly strong as shown in the anime. And adds another reason why I prefer the manga.
@@TayyabKhan-hh6kx she is called legendary on the manga, but the whole "legendary" and "demon" thing is mostly because these types of Saiyajins are very rare, they are just mutants like King Vegeta said about Broly. Anime Gohan was training before ToP too, you can see him training before Champa tournament. And manga Kefla is really weaker but it's because both Caulifla and Kale were already weak before fusing, Kale was even sleeping, and manga Kefla doesn't have Ssj2 like her anime counterpart too
@@thatboychris9990 Broly has different forms since they’re combine with his wrath form which is why his forms are strong but a bit too strong actually I take that back Kale was too weak
This is way better than the anime both of them are really strong and perfect training buddy's if gohan starts training again also I was crying and smiling at the end of the fight they both took out each other
Now this is a much more accurate fight than goku vs kefla
Well, not really, since Kale beat down Golden Frieza.
@@jasonone8726 Well to be fair gohan grows exceptionally stronger just from brief fights with people near his level. His potential is ridiculous, he went from barely being able to wear weights to being on par with the gammas who are at least blue level in the span of less than an hour. It makes sense he got so strong in the ToP I think him being kefla level makes a lot of sense.
Manga Gohan stomps anime Goku.
Cry about it.
@@jasonone8726 kale power was killing herself like goku use kaioken again jiren she may get stronger but her body gonna get destroy sooner or later
@@jgferi9980 Yeah, I forgot she was losing stamina.
Really wish this actually happened, gohan needed more love in the tournament. Gohan and Kefla are awesome
This did happen though, it's the manga.
Yeah I thought gohan deserved more moments but I get that they wanted to give Goku time to master UI
God, great chapter. Thank you for putting the music over it, it was very fitting!
I said this awhile back and I haven't seen anyone mention it, I really feel that in DBZ Toriyama was trying to do something with Half saiyan hybrids that was different than full blood saiyans. Saiyan Hybrids catch onto the transformations way faster and in terms of Gohan he doesn't even need to transform to access the power SSJ1, SSJ2 or above would give him. I feel like Toriyama wanted to give Gohan his own power up's outside of the Saiyan transformations because there was a lot of mentioning in the lore about half blood saiyans.
Now we have in the manga Gohan saiying this? that he chooses to evolve as a human and not rely on the saiyan power ups? I feel like the play here is that saiyan hybrids don't need the transformation (or at least Gohan due to his potential) to keep growing and Gohan gets the best of both humans and Saiyans making him better BUT they kinda cut all that off in the Buu Saga for their complaints against Gohan overtaking Goku's spot. Gohan is the 3rd strongest of the bunch, but he could be way stronger if they allowed him to be. They can give Gohan Ultra Balance. Goku has Ultra instinct, Vegeta has Ultra Ego, we know Gohan and his anger, we also know he can be extremely calm and tactical, so why not something in between both OR give him something of his own since Broly and Jiren don't use Ultra anything and were strong as heck against Goku and Vegeta.
Well said,, but I feel like at some point he needs to come to terms with his saiyan half. That's why I'm praying that he'll be the first SSJ4 in DBS.
Gohan is a prodigy and when he became Ultimate Gohan he unlocked his unlimited power but still had more training etc to really tap into it. Hopefully he gets an arc that really does him justice.
@@ceaser2124 DBS: Super Hero is probably going to show that gohan has learned how to push the Ultimate state further by enhancing it with his Saiyan blood. Here he is denying that side of him to advance as a human. His next path of growth is to accept he is half human and half saiyan. So his next "transformation" would be pushing the Ultimate/Mystic form beyong just being human, but being what he really is, a hybrid. Think of it like SSJB, if SSJB is the Super Saiyna for of Super Saiyan God, Gohan's new form witll be the Super Saiyan for of Ultimate/Mystic
@@avatarofdeath something along the lines of mystic super saiyan ig
AND YOU W E R E RIGHT COMPLETELY
Is it just me or the piccolo Gi looks better on Gohan.
It indeed does, he represents his master
gohan is a bad ass
I love the how they did with gohan on the manga
I have read this part in manga so many times wish this is how it was even in anime, Gohan needed a moment like this in anime
This was so amazing.. Finally my Boy shined 😇😇
Kefla: "Ready to end it?"
Kefla: "I really feel like dying today."
Thanks for the Support, I hope you like the Battle in between Gohan and Kefla 😎
i didnt know kefla fought gohan at the tournament of power, wow the manga is very different than the anime version,,,
@@mycrazyhuskycalledluna1291 yeah the manga always have a different twist from the anime
Amazing bro
I hope your good brother
I mean it’s cool and all but I just don’t see how Kefla could struggle and lose against GOHAN of all ppl
The fact this was mostly off panel after like 2 chapters of Kale's rampage and setting up Kefla was a crime.
Yep
I'd say, this is a more realistic fight. I think anime Kelfa was buffed way too much. There's no way 2 fused Saiyans who just transformed could match up to UI Goku that fast.
She didn't match up to UI Goku.
Manga gohan shits on anime and manga goku. Cope harder
@@cringekiller348 Cap.
@@jasonone8726 but the point is she shouldn't be more powerful than SSG let alone stronger than SSB kaioken no matter how drained goku was.
@@cringekiller348 keep crying lol
I don’t think the anime had the part where Champa actually told Kale and Caulifla they did well. Super unfortunate considering how much it shows his character to have changed.
I mean manga is different from the anime I mean goku had mui a whole different way ti
@@cryoflame how did he get mui
@@Deathmare235 after roshi got eliminated by him showing "how to move"
he seemed slightly depressed and he realised to reflect on everything every master had taught him.. that is how he got ultra instinct. not some spirit bomb that should have been bounced back.
And the manga didn't have the part, where Beerus compliments his team, after their loss lol
I love how even Goku is surprised
It really does summarize how strong Potential Unleashed really is (or was he in base form??) and it makes Super Hero seem a lot more legit seeing as it kinda blends the continuities of both the anime and the manga in some ways
In manga, potential unleashed IS gohan’s base form.
Damn as a gohan fan I’m mad they didn’t animate this
I mean they could not do it since the chapter didn't even exist when the anime was still going on
This was a good fight
It was indeed
When did this happen though? Gohan fight kefla?
@@PureGamingpro yeah at the TOP, but only on the manga not on anime
@@kiliki1124 really? So is that version different from the anime and the manga? I didn’t know that
@@PureGamingpro is actually the official manga
Manga finally did justice to Gohan
1:35 she brapped on him
I think Gohan’s potential mostly comes because there’s power humans have in DB that we haven’t understood yet. Something drawn out from his human side that humans don’t know they have that maybe shown because he has Saiyan DNA.
It’s sucks how off screen this fight was but hey at least gohan got some shine.
Saiyans evolve as they fight.. gohan is already shown to be talented his saiyan power is higher than normal kind of like broly.
Vegeta and nappa did state half breeds were talented way back in z.
Comparable to genetic mutations even like broly.
Little trivia:
during that scene with nappa and vegeta they stated that gohan could be a super saiyan and it's the first mention of the phrase super saiyan.
@@shivam5098 if you read closely, he never said that.
however! it's meant differently
it was more of a "super Saiyan"
a Saiyan stronger than normal
what we know now, is a "Super Saiyan", the transformation
the difference is clear because of how they write the two in japanese, using two different kanji iirc
@@andreadebernardis4390 I can't read japanese so sorry for my mistake.
I still love how in canon everyone notices gohans potential
dbz producer or whoever animate super should take notes on this if toriyama did it that was excellent display of two warriors not worrying about their universe but fight. Why didnt we get this in super
‘cause Toriyama gave them a storyboard , and Toei Animation should animate it and add new material to make it longer and thus the tournament of power anime version was made it, besides the manga Toyotaro watched some anime incoherences and decided make his own fights but short, because Toriyama was pressuring him for the time, and basically Those were Toyotaro’s ideas and about why it didn’t happen in the anime that was why Toei Animation had no reference point nor exactly script and They improvised.
The anime by this point, was ahead of the manga.
I like gohan in the manga but still dbs didnt do him dirty as people say he had key moments in dbs too
Hmmm. I guess. But in case of strength, by boy here was done really dirty.
@@TayyabKhan-hh6kx he defeated the fastest mortal in the multiverse
@@Deathmare235 he couldn't catch up he had to get friezas barrier and then in the end sacrificed himself just for a win he was done dirty
@@cristheblob4020 neither could a golden frieza who needed help from a gohan who hasn't gotten any significant transformation since buu saga
Ya thats true. Especially in the TOP. but before that, they slept on him way too much same with goten and trunks
Underrated bruh
The music choice when Gohan entered the fray was fucking glorious
I fucking love Gohan's Outfit
Whatttttt when did these all come on. Wow did I like fall asleep for a year
Lol 😂
You will love the next fight I got in mind
@@cinemanimetheories3040 nice I’m already loving it
U don't know Gohan, He is the real deal. If he didn't give up on training he could've been stronger as UI. The writers knew it From the start that's why they made him lame. I'mma real Gohan fan, I'm gonna protect his image ❤️❤️❤️
He's as strong as the writers need him to be, same with everyone else.
@@H2O_Chi nope, I think he should've been the MC according to DBZ
Realistically speaking, Gohan should’ve been at the very least equal to Goku at the start of DBS. He got nerfed hard because the writers are either too scared or too lazy to write him in the story.
@@chewezx1767 yeah they need to stop playing and let him fight along side kakarot and vegetables
When you nerf a character to such an extent that you remove one of its best fights
This wasn't removed, the anime did this arc first, it was ahead of the manga.
In all my life I’ve always believed 2 things
A.The sky is blue
B.Gohan was useless in super
But now I finally die knowing he actually did something worth talking about.
He went beast mode in the new movie so thats that
I really love gohan said I don’t need transformations to be stronger, he is doing it as a human was awesome 🤩
Because he's fighting in his Ultimate form, which is above SSJ.
If you really think about it Gohan surpassed SSJ3 in the Buu Saga far surpassed it if he trained he wouldve been past a god in his own rights
Well, he was the strongest character in the whole buu even in dbz battle of gods until Goku goes SSG. Plus, he's the only saiyan who can get very strong very fast alongside Broly.
@@TayyabKhan-hh6kx i mean vegito was folding buu with gohan absorbed so not really
@@Iamstupid425 *Non-fused character.
Ok
@@Iamstupid425 Vegito's a damn fusion.
1:34 Gohan taking full advantage being too handsome
This is what should have happened in the anime. Yeah, Goku fighting Kefka in UI Omen was cool. But by the time it came around again it just felt exhausted. They should have gave Gohan his moment. It was cool seeing him team up with Frieza, but this is completely different. This is Gohan on his own going up against Kefla. This is a fight we wanted to see in the ToP!
The nerve of Kefla, who only learned about super Saiyan like weeks before, asking Gohan if he can even transform… The man reached super Saiyan level 2 when he was like 10!
How was she supposed to know that? 😂
gohan just casually deflects an attack meant to end both goku and jiren
You really think that attack could've even scratched any of them ??
@@shivam5098 bruh didn't you see how strong the kale was?
Probably won't have affected much to jiren but to Goku it would surely have
@@adityasalunkhe1288 the same kale that goku easily clapped with just ssj god in anime ?? , took her full force beam head on with 0 damaged WHILE HE WAS ALREADY EXHAUSTED
Toyotaro got more of this old school dragon ball vibe than the story writers of the anime... He also made gohan wear picolo attire. It gives off that bad ass vibe of cell saga. It even tore the same way
Bro the movie just gotta hype my man up some more. LETS GO GOHAN.
It's insane how busted Gohan actually is, considering he can easily catch up and even outpace Goku who needs God-Level transformations just to fight some of his enemies while Gohan just needs to unlock more of what he already had. Goku needed an imperfect Ultra Instinct to fight Kefla, while Gohans stands as an equal without such power. That's insane.
Kefla at a more realistic power level... i like
Even though the fight was short, Gohan was given more justice than in the anime. And she lost to Gohan in his BASE form...
That was ultimate, not base form
@@imsusanov2287 ultimate form has the bang. Doesn't it?
In the anime Gohan wears like Goku but in the manga he wears like his father.
Piccolo is gohan real father 😌
Wears like his father 🤣
Repeat that 2000 more times. Maybe then it'll be funny.
@@stupidboy9944 Sure thing.
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@@edgiest-edgelord-that-edges u actually did lmao
Why they didn’t animate this is totally beyond me, Super could’ve really cooked something here
The anime was ahead of the manga. The show and manga did very different things with the Trunks and TOP arcs.
Real gohan which toriyama written.. 🔥🔥
I believe that The Human in Gohan is probably what makes us humans stronger then we know when we drop our restraints and protect the ones we love.
I think if gohan wants to go thru with this “human evolution” he should train under Roshi as a development in his character at some point going fwd
Yeah, imagine he have something like Ultimate Buff form lol. Its like a combination between roshi buff form + Gohan ultimate.
Whenever I see the Dragonball Manga, I remember that Toei and Toyo don’t know what they’re doing when it comes to anime, and Toriyama is the only one of them that does LMAO
Toriyama is the one who supervises the manga, and this makes sense here.
If kefla shot that beam and gohan didn’t interfere jiren would've probably just glared it away
Jiren's glare technique, wasn't in the manga, unfortunately.
Look, I loved seeing Goku style all over Kefla with UI...BUT THIS IS JUST PERFECT DUDE! Like, this does Gohan soooo much justice.
Did Gohan actually make me proud with that entrance? Wait wtf he actually acted like a saiyan
Not a Saiyan, but a warrior all the same. A Saiyan would drag-out the fight to get as much enjoyment out of it as possible.
@@DigitalWraith well Gohan dragged the fight out with cell so if u were trying to say Gohan straight kills his opponent you couldn't be more wrong. In dbz when a character reaches a new super saiyan form they were almost arrogant and their saiyan traits shined brighter. Goku in ssj Gohan ssj2 and goku ssj3 were all arrogant. Even ultimate Gohan or mystic was beyond arrogant and cost him the fight. What I meant by Gohan showing saiyan traits was the fact he stepped up to battle an opponent his lvl or stronger. Gohan has basically always been in position by some asspull that he is stronger than the villain. With raditz garlic Jr and cell. It was never saiyan traits but human traits of emotion that made him stronger but since dbz shined in the 90s when all shows wanted to make hybrids so strong (i.e Yusuke in yuyuhakusho or inuyasha) Gohan benefited from just common Shonen trend. Gohan was an asspull character that was gifted power ups. Sorry for the rant lol
@@justacoolguy336 In Cell's case, he wasn't dragging out the fight to enjoy the battle, like a Saiyan. He was dragging out the fight just to make Cell suffer.
As for his fight with Boo, he was just being arrogant. He wasn't fighting out of enjoyment like Goku would. Looking at how Gohan kept taunting him, it's clear he just wanted to upset Boo.
Gohan stepping up to battle someone as strong or stronger isn't a Saiyan trait. It is a warrior's trait. All the earthlings have been seen doing the same thing. The same goes for Piccolo.
You're wrong again. Gohan getting stronger with rage isn't an earthling trait. It is due to his Saiyan/Earthling blend that allows his power to grow based on his rage. No earthling has this trait.
Also, Saiyans fall under the category of humans. They just aren't earthlings.
@@DigitalWraith no Gohan dragged that cell fight out for his enjoyment. He wanted to make cell suffer? For killing the andriod? Lol Gohan was enjoying the fact he was stronger even after goku told him to kill cell he just smiled it off practically scaring even goku how he was acting lol thats not someone who just wants to make cell suffer. The buu fight he even let the kids get a chance because he was so sure of his power almost like vegeta when he let cell go find 18 that was the confidence that oozed out of him thats a saiyan trait fool. You're talking about warrior trait but that's obviously comes from a saiyan. Piccolo didn't run up on buu or friezas final form or cell so wtf are u talking about warrior traits? You're lost. 😆
@@justacoolguy336 Really? Then why did Gohan specify say that he wants to make Cell suffer for what he did? His statements contradict your views. And yes, he wanted Cell to suffer for killing an Android. That was the trigger for his Super Saiyan 2 transformation. Seems you are the lost one.
The example you just provided with Gohan letting Gotenks fight Boo is yet again, an example of him being arrogant. It also contradicts your assumption that he was fighting for the enjoyment. Because if that was the case, Gohan would have argued with Gotenks over who gets to fight Boo. Instead, he was being cocky. Likely thinking that if Gotenks fails, he'll just finish Boo off himself. If Gohan knew Boo could absorb people, he never would have let Gotenks fight. Gohan's situation was nothing like Vegeta letting Cell absorb 18. You must be trolling.
Actually Piccolo did fight Freeza's final form. The earthlings showed up to fight the Androids too. Also did you forget that Krillen tried to fight Boo on the Lookout? Have you've never watched Dragon Ball? The earthlings have always gone up against fighters as strong or stronger. Even the Saiyan arc shows them doing this. You are so confused, it's hilarious. 😂
I love the ultra instinct fight but this is the one that should have been in the anime
The disrespect hogan gave kefla just by not transforming is just too good
hes already in his ultimate form
He doesn't have to anymore. Since the end of DBZ he's not had to transform. They made him use SSJ for the Freiza movie because he was supposedly rusty but it still doesn't make any sense because it's not a form. Gohans potential is unlocked so it seems he doesn't need forms anymore to access the power the form would give him. All he needs is the training to be able to reach higher power or in another way of saying expand the power he could access.
@@drjonesey5 Toyotaro seems to of stuck to what it was supposed to be, than what Toriyama has made it lol
Even though we would be missed out on one the most epic Kamehameha finishers since Z, I feel this battle makes much more sense. Gohan's sacrifice here is a far better character development point for him over the elimination of Dyspo. Pride Troopers in their entirely should've been left to Goku, Vegeta, Frieza, and 17.
Man I'm gonna start reading more Manga! So much better! If they actually made the show like the Manga it wouldn't just be the best, it would be the greatest. 🔥
THAT'S WHY HE'S THE GOAT!!!!! THE GOATTTTTTT
The anime robbed us of this greatness
The anime version, came out before this.
Dbs is a bunch of crap
@@Cay9z Why are you on here then?
@@j04370859 Thats like asking a Nba fan to leave the internet because he hates the fact that the nba is soft
@@Cay9z That comparison, makes no sense at all bro, not liking the nba, doesn't mean staying off the Internet, there's other things to do on the Internet, just don't watch it. I obviously meant, why are you on this video? Not the Internet lol
This would been perfect instead of ultra instinct goku fighting her and also they should add gohan his blanco hair like in the anime but with outfit from the manga so we can see that he's in his ultimate form, the fact that they both knock each other out is even more impressive
Need a DBS Kai. This was better than the entirety of the super anime.
This arc was better in the anime.
@@jasonone8726i think both had their moments equally, kinda would be cool to have an animated version mixed
My God...I just realized Gohan just beat a Fusion.
I beg , bandai please bring this gohan to life in the anime and add him to dokkan battle too
Bandai does the games, not the anime.
This is the gohan we loved
"I chose to keep evolving as a human, not a saiyan."
*Beast Krillin has entered the chat*
in hindsight we really need an arc dedicated to Krillin, Tien and Yamucha
Why didn’t they do this in the anime my God what better writing in the manga than the animation 👏🏽 I’d rewatch the fight with goku and kale and yes it was dope but for character development for Gohan to eliminate U6 that justifies how much stronger he’s gotten and how more serious his training has gotten until we get to Super Hero
The anime was ahead of the manga.
@@jasonone8726 explains a lot
For those who don't understand, yes, Gohan was in his Ultimate form as he says there's no need for turning Super Saiyan anymore plus Gohan's are fully outlined, which is supposed to be an indication of Gohan being in his Ultimate form, but _Dragon Ball GT,_ the _Dragon Ball Super_ TV anime, and a few other series have been inconsistent on that part as base Gohan's eyes are drawn as if he was using his Ultimate form. I appreciate this issue being corrected in _Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero._
Anyway, Gohan is telling Kefla that he doesn't go Super Saiyan anymore and actually doesn't need to anyway because he has already chosen to go a different route of evolution and sought his own path.
This route of evolution different from what Saiyans can naturally do is Gohan's Ultimate form. His Ultimate form draws out the entirety of his potential while the Super Saiyan forms only draw out portions of it. With all of his potential and more drawn out, there's nothing left for the Super Saiyan forms to tap into, so they wouldn't offer any boost.
What's kinda confusing is if his Ultimate is a transformation or his permanent state in the manga, like the anime and movies have made it.
@@jasonone8726 In the original manga and _Dragon Ball Z_ TV series, Ultimate Gohan is a transformation as Goku and Piccolo both indicate there were physical changes to Gohan and that, according to Piccolo, the type of ki Gohan had was different, just like how Super Saiyans have a type of ki than regular Saiyans (or base-form Saiyans).
In the original manga and _Dragon Ball Z_ TV series, Gohan's Ultimate form was a permanent state because the physical changes that manifested after he triggered the power-up remained with him even in moments/scenes where he had no reason to be in a transformed state, such as after the group had all gathered at Kami's Temple following the defeat of Kid Buu and then ten years later during (and the day before) the 28th Tenka'ichi Budōkai.
In _Dragon Ball Z_ movies 13 and 14, the _Dragon Ball Super_ television series, the _Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero_ movie, and _Dragon Ball GT,_ Ultimate Gohan is no longer a permanent state and just another transformation Gohan could switch on and off (like Super Saiyan of course).
Heck, in _GT,_ there was no Ultimate Gohan despite Gohan's eyes being fully outlined in his base form like in his Ultimate form.
This not ultimate it's bs.
@@VITAS874 It it his Ultimate.
@@DarthKamui Nope they both mentioned that there is no transformation and it is explicitly stated to not be one. The thing that shocks them is the pure power Gohan has.
Honestly its fair that she stands up near Gohan, gohan who’s far stronger than super saiyan 3 but rusty fighting two fused super saiyan 2’s
Kefla is obviously stronger than a SSJ3. Caulifla never had SSJ2 in the manga and Kale had it in neither version.
@@jasonone8726yeah she also doesn't have the insane statements
There’s certain things in the manga I consider cannon this is one of them
Gohan is such a goat. Crazy to think she lost to a base Gohan lol.
Ultimate gohan
@@jg1692 wasn't ultimate. Was base Gohan.
@Armon Butler No, this is Mystic Gohan, when he's in base form, his eyes aren't connected like Goku's. Mystic was originally meant to be his permanent base form and not a transformation, like how the movies and anime makes it. The manga is sticking to what it's supposed to be.
I loved Gokus fight with Kefla in the anime but this would’ve been amazing animated
Goku : He's evolving just very fast.
It’s sad to see he’s become a failure AGAIN. He literally said he’s going to keep training with Piccolo during the Moro arc smh.
Beast gohan ?
Gohan now is Goathan
Imagine a God of Destruction telling u good work out there?! Mad respect from a deity 💯👍🙏
I like the Goku vs Kefla fight but this would have been better. It would have been a better send off for Gohan than what he got in the anime that's for sure.
Kefla saying if Gohan can even to SSJ shorty this Ultimate form is comparable to SSJ3 😂
Kefla's character was done better in the manga. Agreed?
No.
Yes
The same? But i prefer anime Caulifla and Kale
@@Boltz4 Caulifla was too overpowered in the anime, Kale at least in the manga, knew how to fight in base form and her berzerk design, wasn't a complete Broly rip off.
Yup agreed, hell Kale is bazillions of times better than her shitty anime counterpart
Honestly i think I'm fine with how the anime went, as much as i love Gohan he sure is nowhere near going toe to toe with kefla at all.
You have to realize what we just seen of Gohan, saiyans have natural enhanced fighting abilities than normal but when a Saiyan goes ssj ,that increases there Saiyan sensing abilities as well it's the same like kaioken but better , Gohan may have a natural upgrade in perception due to being mystic and having Saiyan blood but he was fighting a sayian who was transformed in a sayian state meaning when they fought they were supposed to be evenly matched in power but as far as fight senses you will think that kefla had the advantage especially in fusion which really shows how truly awesome of a fighter Gohan is meanwhile he just started training again compared to the full blooded universe 6 saiyans who engaged in lots of combat recently before the tournament, Gohan is a true prodigy showing that his mind , power and fighting abilities can even combat a Saiyan Ina transformed state with heighten sensing fighting abilities , if you can understand that you will see how awesome Gohan was in this fight
Mystic / ultimate is not a form its his potential unleashed, the kais already told everyone that he's at his *strongest* transforming is pointless it wastes energy.
Gohan is fighting two amateurs who're basically Goku and Vegeta at their best in Z, Gohan during Z surpassed both of them including buu he treated him like he was fodder.
Kefla is using only a fully powered SSJ2 and berserker state saiyan with no control he pretty much is fighting Vegito with Brolys power which means Gohan got another zenkai somewhere and with his experience trounced them both.
@@bellattery not really , mystic form is a form it's just a magical form that allows all potential to be unleashed in a trained state where it becomes its own better base form for you and once mastered than you will use it like Gohan where it's always on call but the super sayian transformation still has it's other abilities as I said in my comment which is why I said what I said , amateur or not kefla is still a Saiyan a fused one and also mixed with universe 6 legendary ssj mode so that's alot of power and super sayian ability prowess going on inside her and her own potential , ssj gives it's abilities to break limits as well with their emotions,feelings and intuitions which is why Goku sometimes ask Gohan why he doesn't use his ssj form but Gohan is creating his own vibes and he's emotional enough to use his sayian hybrid powers to break other levels but it seems he likes to keep a clear mind sometime and with his childhood ,his childhood is probably part of the reason he also prefers his mystic form besides the no stamina drain but nonetheless my comment was to show you how much Gohan was fighting against where he just started training again
@@bellattery but yes he has shown his experience is not for nothing but kefla in her unfused state, they are not untrained as well but Gohan showed why he is Gohan which was my point
@@thothgold2768 What your saying is head canon you need to pay more attention to what the show explained instead of only believing what you hear and see respecting your right to opinion but what you're stating is incorrect.
Again the kais already told the audience and Z warriors that he no longer needs to transform anymore his potential has been unleashed and now he can access all his eneergy without transformning, the elder Kai specifically brought up it only wastes energy and you don't need to do it unless its for intimidation *it's not a transformation*
Kefla is mixed with aberserker saiyan and its not really special as it has a limit to how much enenrgy it can handle or else risk exploding.
Kefla has limits and SSJ doesn't give a user special abilitites all it does is hieighten up the saiyans cells and give them aburst of energy that they're holding onto tus why there is something alled *full powered* Super Saiyan way back when Cell fought Goku during the Cell games.
Kefla got her ass kicked and enough screen time she had no chance beating goku at his prime condition and he proved it he easily countered everything she did and two shot her with a kamehameha wave Kale only manage to resist it and outmuscle it into another direction but it took everything she had SSJ form isn't that special nor berserker hell the universe 11 team almost wiped out both kefla and Kale even with SSJ2 and berserker state but *plot* help them survive.
@@thothgold2768 Kefla is untrained, she only has small battles with untapped energy within her because of her living conditions Akira specifically stated S cells develop because of their way of living she obviously has more S cells due to her kindness and Kale having a ton more because of it.
Gohans experience and many great battles proved he outmatched them both at their prime.