In Search of Coho Salmon After the Rainstorm | Fishing with Rod
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- My favourite time of coho salmon fishing season in Chilliwack BC is the second half of October once rainstorms arrive. Here is a quick outing after a storm, casting spoons and spinners in high water. Be sure to watch the second half of the video which explains how river level affects your fishing results.
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Where on the Vedder is that I could use a day fishing without others shoulder to shoulder
@@ebfloors As I have said in the video, there isn't one single good spot out on the Vedder. That spot was very congested this weekend, and probably on most weekdays too.
Always enjoy your videos. I used to fish coho with spinners but the Chum were so thick we would lose so many spinners on the backs of Chum. So we started fishing with a med heavy bass rod and we would take the hook point off so it was quite dull so as not to snag the Chums backs now we could cast right into a bunch of Chum and the Coho would be under the Chum and you could see them using them for cover so as long as you could get a few rotations of your blade A Coho would dart out and grab.Thats when the bass rod helped set that dull hook into the Cohos mouth and we stopped losing $5 spinners
I really like this format where you explain and educate at the end of the video. Keep it up love the content.
Thanks! 🙂
Really like that you are talking about how to read runs, what to know, and how to think about water levels. Its these extra considerations that rrally make fishing an adventure...
Yep I think for those who pay close attention to what I am putting out there, they'd catch a lot of fish after trying all the tips out. :)
Just curious, why do you call those Kings, "Springs"? Springer are Chinook that literally return to spawn in the Spring. September Kings are Fall Chinook. Summer Kings....
Just curious, why do you call those Kings, "Springs"? Springer are Chinook that literally return to spawn in the Spring. September Kings are Fall Chinook. Summer Kings....
Just curious, why do you call those Kings, "Springs"? Springer are Chinook that literally return to spawn in the Spring. September Kings are Fall Chinook. Summer Kings....
Just curious, why do you call those Kings, "Springs"? Springer are Chinook that literally return to spawn in the Spring. September Kings are Fall Chinook. Summer Kings....
Rod at 3:54, "I can't believe there's nobody here!" Absolute best feeling in the world as a fisherman, when you arrive at a great spot and no one else is there! Thanks for your great video's!
Best feeling hehe...
Trust a government site to be the most difficult to figure out😂.
Rod.... Please explain how to find a river on that site. Stamp river is what I'm looking for.
That site doesn’t have all the rivers in BC actually, and for Vancouver Island rivers some are in fact found on a different site. Here is Stamp’s: www.pacfish.ca/wcviweather/Content%20Pages/Stamp/WaterLevel.aspx
@@FishingwithRod ❤️❤️❤️❤️ THANKS!!!!! 👍😁
Just caught 2 cohos on Dec 2 before the pouring rains these days, cohos are still fresh ( tiny red but still silver fresh ) before the fishing spot of Tamihi !!
If you switch the handle to the left and learn how to reel on that side things would be so much easier.
Hey Rod! Question? Do you carry bear spray when fishing in that area ?
I don't.
Hi Rod,
Do you use a swivel to attach leader to main line or did you just do the blood knot? Thanks!
Always enjoy your videos. Hope you are keeping well!
I use an improved Albright knot to connect my braided main to the fluorocarbon leader.
@@FishingwithRod ahh gotcha. Thank you! What's the secret to not getting snagged on rocks and debris in the water. I've lost too many lures. 😕
@@ahmedb4316 I think that unfortunately is just trial and error, and over time you would lose less and less. After almost 30 years of spoon fishing, I am still losing lures from time to time lol.
Glad I'm not the only person who loses tackle on large fish
It does happen every now and then.
I wanna be fishing there.
Are there still large amounts of people end of october on the river?
I guess there is only one way to find out lol.
That's it. I'm coming down.
Sorry for the tease lol...
Do you like to run your spinners with a swivel or without???
I always have a swivel with the spinner (just about all spinners you buy would come with one). Without the swivel, your line (especially mono and fluoro) would be really twisted after awhile.
skunked past 4 times iv been on the vedder using spoons and spinners lol
Keep trying! 😊
@@FishingwithRodabsolutely will be! thats why its called fishing and not catching right? 🤪🥴
When you get to your spot and find no one else is there! A perfect day!
Yep!
Why did you want to lose the fish?
It was a big chinook salmon foul hooked on the back, way too big for me to bring in on the light coho salmon setup.
@FishingwithRod another great video and very long time subscriber..I have a question...what is "generally" the water level we should be looking for...2.0 perhaps? Cheers!
There isn't a particular water level I am looking for, but rather whether it is rising or dropping, and the clarity of the water. If water is clear enough, and on the drop, you should be able to find fish somewhere regardless how high or low it is.
I appreciate the educational bit at the end.
So many UA-camrs want to just post video of them slaying fish all day. And that’s great, we all love watching it. But as a guy trying to learn, it doesn’t help much. So thanks!
You're welcome. Happy to share what I've learned.
Did you try King Killer by wicked lures?
What river is that?
Chilliwack River.
Was that an Alberto knot?
Improved Albright.
I counted six whacks with a rock on that first fish. Holy Meat Tenderizer, Batman! :)
Fish patties... 😅
Any tips for avoiding the chum salmon now that they are in decent numbers in the Vedder for coho. Is shallower and slower-moving water a safe bet?
There really is no way around it but to just move and find places where chum salmon do not dominate the area.
hello,, i was just wondering as a new angler how i could/should go about finding new fishing spots? i tried asking pacific rivers and they gave me a really good spot that's not to hard to get to but i want to find more spots.
You walk and find them, that's pretty much the best advice I could give you. You're not going to know the river unless you don't walk it.
Is this the vedder ?
Yep.
What river is this?
Chilliwack.
Nice fish On there rod. Hopefully next year when I go back there, I'll get a chance to see you and fish with you
See you out there. 😊
Appreciate your time and energy from Ontario! Newbies like me absorb all the knowledge transfer.
Glad to help!
Rod: this is my new spinner.
Fish: no that's my spinner.
😂 another great video.
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Thanks! 😄
Beautiful looking coho😊🎣 I have a question, I noticed that you don’t seem to use a snap swivel to quickly change spinners and spoons. Is there a reason for that?
I do sometimes but I prefer not to have that many parts hanging from my spoon or spinner. To me it just seems to cause more issues when you have more swivelsc etc on the line when you get a big fish on.
Love to fish in the rain. Some, ( a lot ) of my best days have been in the rain. Im sure it's because the barometric pressure is dropping. Or so I've been told.
Oh for sure, coho salmon tend to bite, especially lures, better when baraometric pressure and temperature drop.
👌 Not confusing. Carol from Sydney, Australia
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Awesome video Rod, can you tell me where you got your floating wooden fishing net?
They are Moby Nets. This particular mode is called "DK Special". You can order them at any retailers in BC that carry moby Nets. www.mobynets.com
South of the wall here, just had one nail a spoon this morning. Twitching jigs are my go-to but it's fun to switch it up from time to time.
Awesome!
What kind of line do you use? Just getting into spinning at the veddar and wondering why the leader change was needed when you lost the spoon. Thanks for everything you do do helpful!
I use PowerPro and Seaguar. I did a detailed breakdown on the whole setup in this video: ua-cam.com/video/by3jxiuHATM/v-deo.html
Do you have a recommended amount of roe you normally use?
On the hook? I like to keep mine small, usually not much bigger than the size of the thumbnail.
@@FishingwithRod thank you, tight lines 🙏🏻
So much information in this quick video! Thanks a lot Rod
My pleasure!
I love those prime lures for Coho fishing. You can feel what's going on with them alot better than a blue fox.
I totally agree!
Excellent video......i liked the varied type of content bundled into one video!
Thanks!
Can you provide a one click link to this real time hydrographic graph?
wateroffice.ec.gc.ca/report/real_time_e.html?stn=08MH001
I just picked up some Prime Lure spinners. I can't wait to try them. Donyou recommend size 5 over size 4? Also, what weight Prime Lure spoon do you recommend? Thanks for your informative videos. I appreciate it.
I use their size 4 spinners. If there size 3 I'd just use those too. For spoons I use 2/5oz. I tend to use smaller lures than others. For slow and especially shallower water I want my presentation to be smaller.
Thank you Rod.
You know, I have not gone fishing in so many years... I live in the same area as you. I think I may just have to get back into it! I always get confused what is in season, what I can catch, where to go etc lol... time to start researching.
Definitely should take advantage of all these good opportunities we have here! Good luck out there.
Love your channel! Keep up the great work. Now that the Vedder river level has dropped so low for so long, what do you think of the fishing in the Vedder at this point? Thanks in advance!
Yeah it has dropped back to somewhat low again which makes fishing challenging for sure, but I would say not as tough as earlier on because fishing pressure has gone down quite a bit. Coho fishing should be good for at least a couple more weeks.
@@FishingwithRod Thanks, Rod. See you on the river!
@FishingwithRod, mind sharing where you buy your blank spoons. I also like to make my own.
eBay actually. 🤣 They're just very ordinary nickel spoons and i put prism tapes on them.
@FishingwithRod yup me to, but also equipend with the trailing hook that Dan posted a while ago. It's nice to be able to downsize the hook to a species appropriate sizing.
Great information Rod...absolutely love all your videos!!! I hope to run into you on the river someday and maybe get to fish together 👍
Thank you! 😊
Thanks Rod, this is really useful information and I appreciate you taking the time to share with us. Tight lines!
You're welcome! Thanks for watching.
Love it 🙏
Hey Rod great video, I think I missed the link to the tidal flows for the rivers. Could I have the link again thanks Rod
Thanks! The tidal flow? You mean the tide table? The river level graph link is in the description.
@@FishingwithRod ok got ya. Thanks again.
I always find your video educational. Thank you.
My pleasure! Thanks for watching. 😊
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nice fish, have you ever tried left hand reels? With your body cam, I noticed how much you switch hands playing and trying to net the fish. try one, you'll love them. Have a great day!
Our grandfather always had us reeling left unless lefthanded.....just makes sense and it made transitioning to a flyrod very easy
I can do both, I just like to make my life more difficult. 😉
@@FishingwithRod when I'm trolling for kokanee I like to have flyrods with opposite reeling....that way I always have the rod to the inside of the boat so the reel hand close to the water can net....get better leverage as well
I switched all my stuff to right handed just to be difficult too!
I'm fairly ambidextrous, golf right, swing a bat on my right but play hockey on my left side.
For me, I like to cast on my right and I'm more right handed than left, I don't need my smart side holding the rod.
I fish solo a lot and netting with my right is the way, everything and everyone else just has to live with that it😊
Great video and commentary, Rod.
Thanks for watching!
Hi Rod. Are you running a flouro leader or straight braid to your spoons/spinners?
When he was tying the lure it looks a clear line.
My main line is 15lb PowerPro braided, and I tie a section (around 4ft) of Seaguar fluorocarbon (15lb STS) to the end of it before the lure.
@FishingwithRod Thanks for the info...I'm also running a 15lbs seaguar leader
Do you bleed your salmon Rod?
I do. That fish was bled, I just didn't show it this time.
Awesome
Thanks Andrew!
Thanks Rod 👍
You're welcome! 😊
Is a 2500 reel to small for Vedder right now
That would depend on what you are targeting of course. I use a 2500 for coho salmon.
@@FishingwithRod can that handle a Chinook
Ideally a bigger reel would be better.
@@FishingwithRod thanks bro your vid got me iching gunna hit it tomorrow
Was the yellow bottle you had on the walk in Bear spray? Do you see many bear?
Oh no that’s my GoPro stick/floater. 😆
The likelihood of seeing a bear around where I was is pretty small. In twenty+ years, that has only happened once. A little further upstream, bear sightings are more common.
I noticed in Alaska most of the bear spray was from us tourists. The locals seemed ok with the bears.
Fat salmon bears are not going to eat us.
I follow the hydrologic graphs religiously, but knowing the water clarity is just a guess. The first bump on the graph you show reportedly had brown water. I took a chance and drove out from N. Van on the 19th and water clarity was good 2-3' even as it was rising to the third peak. If they also measured turbidity it would remove a lot of guesswork (tough day for me as I went 0 for 4 bites!)
Yeah unfortunately turbidity will always be a guessing game, and that river surprises us every now and then. I was surprised how nice the water is yesterday morning even know level was higher than the day before. Freezing level/air temperature would be another factor influencing it beside precipitation.
Okay normally I love your videos an never have anything to criticize, but i hurt after watching you point your rod at the fish on your first hookup. Probably wouldn't have broken off and or would have had a harder time running if you had kept your rod out to the side allowing it to bend and do its job as a buffer for the line between your hook and reel 😅
Are you talking about the foul hooked chinook or the coho before that?
That's how you need to do it when your gear and line are completely overpowered or you'll risk snapping the rod before the line.
The very first fish you hooked, ran down river an you just pointed your rod at it the hole time.
As to littlegoobie stating that's how you prevent snapping your rod, 1 if your rod can snap under 5 pounds of load don't use 5 pound or heavier line as you'll snap your rod, DUH. Note I'm using 5 pound as a reference. If your going for bigger fish bring a bigger rod and line smaller fish smaller rod and like he stated he was under geared from the start so my question I guess is, why on earth would you rig your tippet/leader/bumper what ever you want to call it, why would you make your breaking point stronger than your rod. Seems pretty stupid to me... bring the right tool for the job or don't try to do a job your incapable of finishing 😂😂😂
James, I think you are confusing the second fish with the first fish. The first fish I hooked in the video was a coho and it popped off right away. The second fish I hooked was a chinook salmon, on its dorsal. There was no way for me to turn that fish around with what I was using.
Hmm, you are supposed to care a lot for theese fish so why do you use sardinegear when you might hook a chinook and leave ur lure in them? Losing gear in big fish because people use way too light gear is plain stupid in my opinion and no i am not very happy to see it from you of all people....
That’s too bad.
Hmm, you're obviously not a salmon fisherman. It's far better for the fish to leave the spinner in its back than to play the fish to exhaustion to pull the spinner out. Guaranteed that fish will live and spawn with l the lure in it, but it probably won't if you try and reel that fish in backwards.
@@FishingwithRodya rod. Time to bring out 80lb braid!!
You dont know much about catch and release do you mr PRO, when done right the survival rate is 95-98% measured by tons of radio tagged fish of all sorts in sea and fresh water....before you even TRY to argue read up on catch and release and watch a couple videoes about it too..
@@deej9367
You are right, i am just a noob fishing atlantic salmon in Norway and i have only landed 2707 of them and top fish is 53 lb but i guess a PRO like you can teach me a lot.@@deej9367