There you go! Good deal. Get that tiny house powered now. I should have realized that you would be further, and I wouldnt have bugged you last night and just keep watching your videos. God bless!
Good Job Troy, I love the paint job on the box. You beat it hard and it held up pretty good. I pray you get good use out of the batteries they have warmed you for a couple of days now. Good luck.
I work in a battery shop and we regularly replace cells in batteries. To help get the cells out, we'll spray into the spaces between the cells with WD40, then run a cheap machete down into the space between. This helps lubricate of course, but also helps break up the corrosion that may have gotten between the cells. Also, if you have multiple cells to remove, try not to extract the corner cell first as they will have two sides with more corrosion due to the steel case.
looking really good, just a test, could you measure the voltage on each and perhaps connect them to get total voltage for your things, can your little hand trailer with the big tires move them closer to the home, mmm, if enough voltage it may do for the night. good show
I’ve got (3) sets of (6) 2V forklift battery cells in series. I’ve been charging them with my standard 12v battery charger and have each of the 3 12v sets up to about 11.6v now after adding distilled water. What’s the best way now to tell how good these batteries still are?
Just looking at the size of these cell and the amount of acid they hold. You will need to make sure that your final installation location has the right spill control in case the cells leak. I know you do not want to risk contaminating the ground water and your stream. You should also check with NY state environmental and EPA to see if you have to have a spill plan to comply with regulations. Again power for your dwelling looking better. Be safe and good luck.
Boy if every single home owner with a few batteries had to check with EPA they sure would be busy. I will use a pan with some sand and baking soda in it for emergency purposes. Thanks
Now you have me wanting some fork lift batteries for my solar system. I wonder if I could find some used ones.My little truck couldn't haul 2,000 pounds ha ha lol
Troy, I think you should get a pulley and a cable and park under one of those trees and use the tree as a hoist with the cable to pull out the cells. That way you could raise it strait up and much higher to clear the battery case. Just an idea.
You have a good system going, though I would of shortened the strap after the first 2 were out. That would of given you a higher lift, maybe even over the case. Go buy a bunch of small tractor tires ($5) each; build small carts for each bank that you make. would make moving them so much easier. Oh; buy a hydrometer to check the batteries. Also, it might be better in the long run to buy a desulfator, even though the bedini is workable.
troy once one is out the rest will come out like its nothing and when ever you have heavy lifting stuff like this get young people in there 20's to help you with the lifting your a veteran you deserve the muscle help its the least that people in there 20's can do
You could have reset the strap near the bottom of the cell and used it like a noose to grip and lift the cell out. You could also shorten your loop and chain up. Also, put a 6x6 across the back of the bed and tilt it back 20 degrees or so to lower the back of the bed.
Good job. One suggestion - you might not need it in the future, but maybe you could pick up a jacket at Good Will or someplace like that to wear when doing jobs that could ruin something you don't want to get messed up. Oh, and Happy New Year to you and Baby Cat. :-)
Chain hoist and a swing set setup, or tree, might have made pulling the cells a little easier? I have done this with pulling motors and trans out of trucks.
what you should do is take one of those bad cells a part so you can see how much lead you have to work with when putting a rod in to the battery bank to put a nut and bolt on to it. I know battery's that have the bolt on top are just a bolt that is burred in the lead. witch you can do you can drill in to the lead that the head of a bolt will fit down in pretty deap and take some stainless steal to make a ring, aka mold put a round the post and melt some lead in to cover the bolt head I used stainless bolts if you can or melt the lead in a stainless steal pan so you can pour lead in to the mold. and let cool it should hold nice and tight. You can belt down the lead you cut off it should have tin in it. so the lead is stronger.
The Do It Yourself World thanks Yea I'm just thinking what would I do. and with the bad cells that is plenty to test stuff on so I know I would take one a part or pop the top to see what I have to work with. as for the Stainless Steal mold I was talking about I get one of those SS comadent things at wall mart. I have used those to melt lead and them port it to mold it ect works pretty good. and with the lead bars that are already on those they should have enough tin in them. I would melt the lead in SS pot and use a dipping spoon that has a sput at the end to pure the lead in to the mold and I heat the mold up to insure a good mod to the base lead. Wish I was there so I can see what you have to make this work. Now because of your video and you getting that for pretty much nothing I will have to start looking a round for Batteries. LOL.
The Do It Yourself World instead of a torch use a drill, tap a 1/4"-20 hole and install a heli-coil to reinforce the lead. www.amazon.com/Helicoil-5521-4-Coarse-Thread-Repair/dp/B0002SRE8Q
Just had a thought for that battery box once you're done with it...weld on a couple of louvered steel doors, bolt/weld it onto the front of the trailer frame, and you've got yourself a practically bulletproof propane tank vault, which is outside and automatically vented. I get the sneaking suspicion that it'd hold up well even under the occasional highway stone chip, as well. d;o)
Great video! Are you going to store your cells in your workshop to keep them warm? Like your idea of putting threaded bolts for your connections! Very interesting.....
Some pb blaster & a flat head screw driver wedge it between the cell & case shake it pretty hard & it should slide out. Wedge the screw driver in between each for sides (of cell your removing) & give it a little shake to loosen each side
lol i can sleep now ... the cells are out ..........nice choice on saving the lead idea... use the lead to make bullets for your muzzle loader or fishing weights
What that gray material between the cells is dried paste of baking soda and water that was use to neutralize the acid boil over during the time of use by previous owner. You could of use a rod thru the eye holes on the case to lift the thing off the pallet, to slide it to the rear of the box. You willed it to find a way to get it move tho. To bad you didn't have a drill bit large enough to waller out the solder in the post holes of the lead bars. You can still melt those connectors back together tho, to make your banks and scrap those doa cells for money. Hope you didn't stuff to much in your cavity of a stomach. May the sun shine on the panels and the wind blow the turbines to power the tiny sauna on wheels at the offgrid project.
Well...we all wasted our time scolding you yesterday about the goggles and stuff. I am so relieved to see those goggles... Fairy Godmother approves. :)
Troy, I am afraid this comment may be too late to be of use this time, but looking toward future projects, you should have the ability to adjust the hook closer to the boom by attaching the bolt to a different chain link. This will gain you several inches of lift. As well, it is also sometimes necessary to do this when using a hoist to pull an engine out of a some vans (or motorhomes) in order to gain enough clearance to lift the engine off the mounts without the top of the boom hitting the top of the cutout in the firewall (and just about everything else crammed in there).
Well once again working harder not smarter. you took them out and what did you do carry them over and put them right on the ground not on a cart of any kind now you have to pick them up again and move them. common troy your a smart man you should know after all this time how to make things easier. You putting them on the ground isn't good for the battery the 2nd time I have told you this if your going to man handle the cells at least put them on some plywood, anyway maybe you just don't read my post because im being negative but troy its not negative just commenting on things I am seeing and have seen in the past. Once again just trying to help you out a little. ill keep watching and commenting when I see a easier way and also commenting when I see you doing something very good. I understand your out there by your self which makes it very difficult. hope the time and energy is worth it on this battery project.
You know, it is hard for me to keep up and read all the comments on a video like this, and I am not out there doing the work! How do expect Troy to read and respond to msgs like this left on a video? Considering the lapse in getting videos posted, in all likelihood, he is probably done with this project already. Its only 1 man, give him a break,
James really, you think im being that negative wow I would say a lot worse things if I was I was try to help the man out a little and as I posted before I understand he is one person which that make things 2 or 3 time hard. Yea maybe he is done with this project I would hope so because the time and effort and the coin used. Cut him a break well he is on UTUBE and I do enjoy watching him BUT I feel I should comment on stuff I see him doing wrong and im not being a huge troll about it just 5 minutes of my time to comment im sure he keeps up because he should as a utuber. I wish I lived close because I would visit him and maybe even ask if I could do the same thing right beside him then he would have help when needed.(pipe dream) anyway James don't think im being to hard on him just think of it being a report card from his fan. Enjoyed you call me out, have a good day
Troy. The only reason I mentioned the spill plan is because of the volume of acid that could spill. I recall that one gallon is a reportable spill. It can seep into the ground and then into the water table. Now since you are showing us that you are working on these cells the videos might be seen by people in these regulatory organizations and come by for a visit. So if that did happen you would already have your ducks in a row and the visit would be informational and no actions taken. Yes you are correct. If the EPA starts enforces all regs they would be extremely busy and profitable. As an example when you change the oil in you vehicles how do you dispose of the old oil? You are legally required to take to s hazardous material disposal company for them to burn in a certified burner. If caught not doing this a fine is levied. Just please be careful. I do not want to see you go through another costing toilet crisis. Be safe and stay warm.
can you give the specifics of your solar system. and DC generator. I have watched lots of solar and alternative power stuff on the tube. you are the first to reply. thank you for that. all I have right now is a 1200 mod sine wave inverter. and a 2000 watt gen. and a Chinese 800 watt with DC output along with a random ac. I have measured any where from 109v to 163 v so I use the DC to charge the one batt I have for now. I have got to do some thing soon. if you would Give me the specs of your system and what you can power with it. it may be a great help to decide what to do next. I am trying to put up some smallish wind turbines. and a small hydro electric gen set up. if I can get the creek famed up. you are the only person I have actually talked to with solar. so your help will be appreciated. thank you.
I would be quite happy to help you over on the forum: www.thedoityourselfworld.com/forum in more detail if you need. I lose the comments within a day or two so this is not reliable because I get about 2,000 comments per day.
I'm looking to do some type of off grid power. is forklift battery's worth the effort and cost? the used ones anyway. is the refurbished ones a better deal? and do you know anything about the nickel-iron battery's. I have been thinking of building some . or trying anyway. I will be moving off grid soon and going to have to do something soon. and the cheapest good option is the way I will have to go. for now anyway. thanks for replying.
With my recent experience with forklift batteries I would say that if you can afford L16 batteries then get them. If not, get Trojan golf cart batteries. The forklift batteries require a lot of maintenance and my batteries were used so they never did perform well.
Think I'm gonna try to get me a forklift battery. Looks like a fun project. In all your videos I only see 6 cells taking out. Did you ever do anything with the leftover cells?
I'm sorry to say but I think your coat is toast... the first time it gets wet now I will be surprised if there aren't holes in the arms. But, some polyester type fabrics are acid resistant now... so I hope I'm wrong. It's a nice coat.
You should go back where you got the battery and get an electric forklift good & cheap. But you really have to have flat concrete. Possibly flat hard ground would work. Any rollback wrecker can move one.
just dril a hole in the terminal, threat it and put a tread rod piece in it, put a nut on it to make it fast, and use a second nut to connectyour wire lug, thats how we do it very often with used cels, works fine with the amount of power you wil use.doesnt have to be 2000 amps handeling, 300 is fine!
When I seen the first one out I was cheering for yea. I might have to think of going to the scarp yard and see if they get any of these and ask them to call me if they get a fork lift battery in like this if they do I will have them call me and go up with my meter and since they have the tools buy the good cells off them to build my 48 volt battery bank.
Glad you have made SAFE progress in getting those stubborn cells out of there. Is it odd, it takes so much energy to harness some of it to store for later, yet time and inefficiency always take it away before we can get the full benefit of the stored energy? How much time and fuel it took to get those cells to your site, now time and energy for tools and you to get them off your truck. How much the same we all face the everyday destruction of our labor efforts paid in stored value of fiat money that looses buying power for stored or active energy or the means to be off the grid. Ponder how many carbs you burned today! haha
I would have thought it easier to remove the whole battery from the truck bed with the host then remove the individual cells as you would have the advantage of height that you do not have with the host on the ground and battery in truck bed.
I think that those are heavy and not many guys in the world could lift them with one hand LOL. I hope you dont break the terminal off the plates inside. You surely will get some out with out breaking them. Too bad you couldnt hook the plastic case from the top of the fill hole so you didnt interfere or damage with the lead post or plates.
They are quite a workout to deal with thats for sure. I could not get anything inside the hole to lift properly without damaging the battery. I tried a bunch of ideas. The manufacturer says to lift by the negative terminal
Get two taps. One tap to start the threading. Break the tip or grind the top off the second tap. Use it to finish the threading. If you get 75% of a thread, it will be OK. The lead is soft and the bolt will roll-thread it in the rest of the way. You can also buy thin nuts and thin wall wrenches if there is 3/16" of a gap under the lead bar. If you heat those up enough to melt something, your also risking the plastic on the cell top. I'd avoid that nonsense.
I imagine you slept well that night Troy those battery's are about 60kg each most people would not even try and lift them they would say health and safety as an excuse to not do it. At work im not allowed to lift more that 13kg how annoying is that.
goggles, gloves, leather apron. You don't want to wreck your clothes, but I think there are more important "bits" to protect. No matter why you are wearing the gear, I am sure many commenters on part I will no doubt be relieved. I know this was filmed on Christmas, but "Happy New Year's Eve to you" is more appropriate now. So there!
Where I am from one never ever sets batteries on direct dirt or cement do negative draw from the batteries. always place a wood board or something non conductive between them. This from the old timers.
this is no longer applicable. it comes from back when the battery cases used to be made out of wood and tar. the plastic cases now are better insolating then any wood plank put under them. place the batteries on the concrete all you want, no harm will come of it
Troy. Please get a face shield. Goggles only protect eyes. Acid can burn skin and leave major scarring with other medical issues. I have seen this where I work. Not a pretty picture. You are no longer dealing with consumer equipment. You are now in the major leagues working with industrial equipment. Please do as I suggested earlier. Check the safety requirements on the material safety sheet for the acid. Best of luck.
Yes that is a very good point actually. I have worked with batteries my whole life and seen what they do to clothing. One single drop means a hole in your jeans.
It really depends on your power needs. I only use a laptop, cell phone, netbook and some LED lights for the most part. Plus charging up some flashlight batteries. It would last me 3 to 5 days on reserve power with cloudy days.
I know this is a stupid rhetorical question but why didn't you shorten the chain on the hoist? You have the means, we saw it on your last video. Plus; why did you not shorten the strap used to hook onto the cell? it was shortened by a knot tied in it. Why didn't you tie another knot? shorter?? why Troy? You could have lifted the cell out ENTIRELY with the lift and driven the truck away, then lower the cells into your little wagon.Until you begin to do things more efficiently please don't display your goof-ups, edit them out. Your bloody trolls do not need any more ammo. I'm grinnin like a cat eatin a canary over the monster battery you now have!! Rock on, lift smarter, Trust your gut,, and lift with your head. Don't end up a crip like me.
The Do It Yourself World Cheat mode: Start cranking with the door open. That gets a little power moving to the interior lights...when you slam the door shut, the power that was going to the lights goes to the starter and she fires right up. d=^D Amazing the little tricks that SHOULDN'T POSSIBLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE that you learn after having the same car for 30 years... d;o)
Lift it out and stop being a weakling. So much for your new coat you already ruined it by grabbing the battery, once it's washed it will be full of holes now.
Why wouldn't you wear an old coat when your handling corroded batteries? You are aware of what acid can do and yet you get your "new coat" arms all over the sides of the batteries where the acid has been dripping. I stretch my dollars as far as they can go and I change clothes if I'm picking up a simple car battery because I know how easy they are to ruin when exposed to acid. What's the deal? You don't save old clothes for dirty jobs? You don't have any old clothes because you don't really live there? You don't value you new clothes enough to change? You just didn't think about? I won't lie, watching a guy that is suppose to have limited funds and depends on the kindness of others for donations, this was hard to watch.
A good guess is that Troy keeps what he needs and passes on what he does not need. I suspect Troy's "old" coat is keeping someone who had no coat warm. That's how things are done on the po' end of town.
There you go! Good deal. Get that tiny house powered now. I should have realized that you would be further, and I wouldnt have bugged you last night and just keep watching your videos. God bless!
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Thanks for sharing all this with us.....I love the tiny house
Love your channel Troy! Started watching several weeks ago and now i'm addicted. Very informative and useful. Happy New Year!
Good Job Troy, I love the paint job on the box. You beat it hard and it held up pretty good. I pray you get good use out of the batteries they have warmed you for a couple of days now. Good luck.
Thank you. I think these batteries will serve me well.
Well done mate you always get the job done
Wow, that's a lot of hard work. I hope you can get them all out.
I work in a battery shop and we regularly replace cells in batteries. To help get the cells out, we'll spray into the spaces between the cells with WD40, then run a cheap machete down into the space between. This helps lubricate of course, but also helps break up the corrosion that may have gotten between the cells. Also, if you have multiple cells to remove, try not to extract the corner cell first as they will have two sides with more corrosion due to the steel case.
Happy New year Troy Keep up the great work
Making Progress!!!!
Happy New Year Troy, Baby Cat & Family
looking really good, just a test, could you measure the voltage on each and perhaps connect them to get total voltage for your things, can your little hand trailer with the big tires move them closer to the home, mmm, if enough voltage it may do for the night. good show
Thanks. I am charging them now but thats another video..
Well done Troy. Happy New Year
Thank you. Happy New Year
Happy New Year Troy... hope 2015 goes even better than 2014
I’ve got (3) sets of (6) 2V forklift battery cells in series. I’ve been charging them with my standard 12v battery charger and have each of the 3 12v sets up to about 11.6v now after adding distilled water. What’s the best way now to tell how good these batteries still are?
Just looking at the size of these cell and the amount of acid they hold. You will need to make sure that your final installation location has the right spill control in case the cells leak. I know you do not want to risk contaminating the ground water and your stream. You should also check with NY state environmental and EPA to see if you have to have a spill plan to comply with regulations. Again power for your dwelling looking better. Be safe and good luck.
Boy if every single home owner with a few batteries had to check with EPA they sure would be busy. I will use a pan with some sand and baking soda in it for emergency purposes. Thanks
Now you have me wanting some fork lift batteries for my solar system. I wonder if I could find some used ones.My little truck couldn't haul 2,000 pounds ha ha lol
You might be able to take some apart at the source where you find them.
The Do It Yourself World Yeah thats what I was thinking. Now to find some for free.
awesome can't wait to see you wire these beasts up.
Troy, I think you should get a pulley and a cable and park under one of those trees and use the tree as a hoist with the cable to pull out the cells. That way you could raise it strait up and much higher to clear the battery case. Just an idea.
Great video!!
You have a good system going, though I would of shortened the strap after the first 2 were out. That would of given you a higher lift, maybe even over the case.
Go buy a bunch of small tractor tires ($5) each; build small carts for each bank that you make. would make moving them so much easier. Oh; buy a hydrometer to check the batteries. Also, it might be better in the long run to buy a desulfator, even though the bedini is workable.
troy once one is out the rest will come out like its nothing and when ever you have heavy lifting stuff like this get young people in there 20's to help you with the lifting your a veteran you deserve the muscle help its the least that people in there 20's can do
You could have reset the strap near the bottom of the cell and used it like a noose to grip and lift the cell out. You could also shorten your loop and chain up. Also, put a 6x6 across the back of the bed and tilt it back 20 degrees or so to lower the back of the bed.
Very helpful, thanks. You did a good job.
That was A LOT of lifting! How's your back?
Hey Troy, HAPPY NEW YEAR!
good new year to ya from Alaska
nice progress!
Good job. One suggestion - you might not need it in the future, but maybe you could pick up a jacket at Good Will or someplace like that to wear when doing jobs that could ruin something you don't want to get messed up. Oh, and Happy New Year to you and Baby Cat. :-)
Chain hoist and a swing set setup, or tree, might have made pulling the cells a little easier? I have done this with pulling motors and trans out of trucks.
I have no trees safe enough for the job. I had considered it.
what you should do is take one of those bad cells a part so you can see how much lead you have to work with when putting a rod in to the battery bank to put a nut and bolt on to it. I know battery's that have the bolt on top are just a bolt that is burred in the lead. witch you can do you can drill in to the lead that the head of a bolt will fit down in pretty deap and take some stainless steal to make a ring, aka mold put a round the post and melt some lead in to cover the bolt head I used stainless bolts if you can or melt the lead in a stainless steal pan so you can pour lead in to the mold. and let cool it should hold nice and tight. You can belt down the lead you cut off it should have tin in it. so the lead is stronger.
Now that is a very good idea. SS bolts melted into the battery terminal with the head inside.
The Do It Yourself World thanks Yea I'm just thinking what would I do. and with the bad cells that is plenty to test stuff on so I know I would take one a part or pop the top to see what I have to work with. as for the Stainless Steal mold I was talking about I get one of those SS comadent things at wall mart. I have used those to melt lead and them port it to mold it ect works pretty good. and with the lead bars that are already on those they should have enough tin in them.
I would melt the lead in SS pot and use a dipping spoon that has a sput at the end to pure the lead in to the mold and I heat the mold up to insure a good mod to the base lead. Wish I was there so I can see what you have to make this work.
Now because of your video and you getting that for pretty much nothing I will have to start looking a round for Batteries. LOL.
The Do It Yourself World instead of a torch use a drill, tap a 1/4"-20 hole and install a heli-coil to reinforce the lead. www.amazon.com/Helicoil-5521-4-Coarse-Thread-Repair/dp/B0002SRE8Q
Great idea. I would take as big as a SS Bolt as you can get away with and use big lugs and cable.
Happy New Year to all.
Just had a thought for that battery box once you're done with it...weld on a couple of louvered steel doors, bolt/weld it onto the front of the trailer frame, and you've got yourself a practically bulletproof propane tank vault, which is outside and automatically vented. I get the sneaking suspicion that it'd hold up well even under the occasional highway stone chip, as well. d;o)
I will give it some thought. Thanks
Happy New Year. Many Blessing.
Be interesting when you get them up and running to see what can be done with them.
good job and happy new year play safe
Great video! Are you going to store your cells in your workshop to keep them warm? Like your idea of putting threaded bolts for your connections! Very interesting.....
Thank you. Not sure yet. I will probably build an insulated shelter for them.
If only you could get that steel case on the ground! Thats some hard work! See you saturday! Happy New Year, Call me
Would a lubricant/soap work to reduce the friction between the cells when pulling the from the steel case?
Some pb blaster & a flat head screw driver wedge it between the cell & case shake it pretty hard & it should slide out. Wedge the screw driver in between each for sides (of cell your removing) & give it a little shake to loosen each side
Glad to see you making GOOD progress. Are you going to put them on the bumper of THoW ?
lol i can sleep now ... the cells are out ..........nice choice on saving the lead idea... use the lead to make bullets for your muzzle loader or fishing weights
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"Lead bullion." d;o)
I know this was recorded a few years ago. but it would have been easier if you shortened the chain! sh how did the cells hold up?
The battery was actually in pretty bad shape. We recently opened one up to find that the plates were pretty badly decayed.
Congratulations Troy, I knew you would get them out!
What that gray material between the cells is dried paste of baking soda and water that was use to neutralize the acid boil over during the time of use by previous owner. You could of use a rod thru the eye holes on the case to lift the thing off the pallet, to slide it to the rear of the box. You willed it to find a way to get it move tho. To bad you didn't have a drill bit large enough to waller out the solder in the post holes of the lead bars. You can still melt those connectors back together tho, to make your banks and scrap those doa cells for money. Hope you didn't stuff to much in your cavity of a stomach. May the sun shine on the panels and the wind blow the turbines to power the tiny sauna on wheels at the offgrid project.
Need to mount a beam between 2 trees and put a Chain hoist on it.
Or
Shorten up on your chain and you will get more lift on the cherry picker. Lots of hard work but hopefully worth it. Good luck.
Well...we all wasted our time scolding you yesterday about the goggles and stuff. I am so relieved to see those goggles... Fairy Godmother approves. :)
Reason 52 that I want a gantry
That steel case would make a great firebox for an outdoor wood burner
Troy, I am afraid this comment may be too late to be of use this time, but looking toward future projects, you should have the ability to adjust the hook closer to the boom by attaching the bolt to a different chain link. This will gain you several inches of lift. As well, it is also sometimes necessary to do this when using a hoist to pull an engine out of a some vans (or motorhomes) in order to gain enough clearance to lift the engine off the mounts without the top of the boom hitting the top of the cutout in the firewall (and just about everything else crammed in there).
Well once again working harder not smarter. you took them out and what did you do carry them over and put them right on the ground not on a cart of any kind now you have to pick them up again and move them. common troy your a smart man you should know after all this time how to make things easier. You putting them on the ground isn't good for the battery the 2nd time I have told you this if your going to man handle the cells at least put them on some plywood, anyway maybe you just don't read my post because im being negative but troy its not negative just commenting on things I am seeing and have seen in the past. Once again just trying to help you out a little. ill keep watching and commenting when I see a easier way and also commenting when I see you doing something very good. I understand your out there by your self which makes it very difficult. hope the time and energy is worth it on this battery project.
You know, it is hard for me to keep up and read all the comments on a video like this, and I am not out there doing the work! How do expect Troy to read and respond to msgs like this left on a video? Considering the lapse in getting videos posted, in all likelihood, he is probably done with this project already. Its only 1 man, give him a break,
James really, you think im being that negative wow I would say a lot worse things if I was I was try to help the man out a little and as I posted before I understand he is one person which that make things 2 or 3 time hard. Yea maybe he is done with this project I would hope so because the time and effort and the coin used. Cut him a break well he is on UTUBE and I do enjoy watching him BUT I feel I should comment on stuff I see him doing wrong and im not being a huge troll about it just 5 minutes of my time to comment im sure he keeps up because he should as a utuber. I wish I lived close because I would visit him and maybe even ask if I could do the same thing right beside him then he would have help when needed.(pipe dream) anyway James don't think im being to hard on him just think of it being a report card from his fan. Enjoyed you call me out, have a good day
They have small threaded rods they are called bolts.
i did not take the cells out,i left the dead cells in...i used jumper wires to connect to the good cells...
Troy. The only reason I mentioned the spill plan is because of the volume of acid that could spill. I recall that one gallon is a reportable spill. It can seep into the ground and then into the water table. Now since you are showing us that you are working on these cells the videos might be seen by people in these regulatory organizations and come by for a visit. So if that did happen you would already have your ducks in a row and the visit would be informational and no actions taken. Yes you are correct. If the EPA starts enforces all regs they would be extremely busy and profitable. As an example when you change the oil in you vehicles how do you dispose of the old oil? You are legally required to take to s hazardous material disposal company for them to burn in a certified burner. If caught not doing this a fine is levied. Just please be careful. I do not want to see you go through another costing toilet crisis. Be safe and stay warm.
Yes thank you. Actually around here you drop off your old oil at the mechanics shop. I will look into the EPA regs for my safety. Thanks.
i would test your threaded rod idea with one of the damaged cells first
Good job, sort of reminds me of a Dentist extracting Teeth though. They'll start calling you the Battery Dentist ;-)
So where did you get a forklift battery?
U50214. My dad was an auto mechanic back then also. Yep. A lot of things have changed since then. Some for the better. Some oh well. LOL
can you give the specifics of your solar system. and DC generator. I have watched lots of solar and alternative power stuff on the tube. you are the first to reply. thank you for that. all I have right now is a 1200 mod sine wave inverter. and a 2000 watt gen. and a Chinese 800 watt with DC output along with a random ac. I have measured any where from 109v to 163 v so I use the DC to charge the one batt I have for now. I have got to do some thing soon. if you would Give me the specs of your system and what you can power with it. it may be a great help to decide what to do next. I am trying to put up some smallish wind turbines. and a small hydro electric gen set up. if I can get the creek famed up. you are the only person I have actually talked to with solar. so your help will be appreciated. thank you.
I would be quite happy to help you over on the forum: www.thedoityourselfworld.com/forum
in more detail if you need. I lose the comments within a day or two so this is not reliable because I get about 2,000 comments per day.
hey troy just wondering how come u didnt use the engine hoist to remove the whole battery from the bed of your truck
I'm looking to do some type of off grid power. is forklift battery's worth the effort and cost? the used ones anyway. is the refurbished ones a better deal? and do you know anything about the nickel-iron battery's. I have been thinking of building some . or trying anyway. I will be moving off grid soon and going to have to do something soon. and the cheapest good option is the way I will have to go. for now anyway. thanks for replying.
With my recent experience with forklift batteries I would say that if you can afford L16 batteries then get them. If not, get Trojan golf cart batteries. The forklift batteries require a lot of maintenance and my batteries were used so they never did perform well.
Nickel iron are very good but very expensive.
Think I'm gonna try to get me a forklift battery. Looks like a fun project. In all your videos I only see 6 cells taking out. Did you ever do anything with the leftover cells?
Seems like once a few of the cells were out maybe you could lift the whole shebang out and onto the ground.
With ten batteries out it is still 1,000 pounds. And now the weight is off balance so it would not be safe. I considered it.
I'm sorry to say but I think your coat is toast... the first time it gets wet now I will be surprised if there aren't holes in the arms. But, some polyester type fabrics are acid resistant now... so I hope I'm wrong. It's a nice coat.
You should go back where you got the battery and get an electric forklift good & cheap. But you really have to have flat concrete. Possibly flat hard ground would work. Any rollback wrecker can move one.
jumping or sitting on the tailgate may have helped free the batteries????
No, they were jammed in there very badly.
just dril a hole in the terminal, threat it and put a tread rod piece in it, put a nut on it to make it fast, and use a second nut to connectyour wire lug, thats how we do it very often with used cels, works fine with the amount of power you wil use.doesnt have to be 2000 amps handeling, 300 is fine!
If you want studs in there just drill and tap the lugs
When I seen the first one out I was cheering for yea. I might have to think of going to the scarp yard and see if they get any of these and ask them to call me if they get a fork lift battery in like this if they do I will have them call me and go up with my meter and since they have the tools buy the good cells off them to build my 48 volt battery bank.
Yes that is a very good plan actually.
Glad you have made SAFE progress in getting those stubborn cells out of there. Is it odd, it takes so much energy to
harness some of it to store for later, yet time and inefficiency always take it away before we can get the full benefit of the
stored energy? How much time and fuel it took to get those cells to your site, now time and energy for tools and you to get them off your truck. How much the same we all face the everyday destruction of our labor efforts paid in stored value of fiat money that looses buying power for stored or active energy or the means to be off the grid.
Ponder how many carbs you burned today! haha
TAKE SOME SLACK OUT OF THE CHAIN!
I would have thought it easier to remove the whole battery from the truck bed with the host then remove the individual cells as you would have the advantage of height that you do not have with the host on the ground and battery in truck bed.
Never the first to comment! I'll get there one day! LOL!!!
:)
I think that those are heavy and not many guys in the world could lift them with one hand LOL. I hope you dont break the terminal off the plates inside. You surely will get some out with out breaking them. Too bad you couldnt hook the plastic case from the top of the fill hole so you didnt interfere or damage with the lead post or plates.
They are quite a workout to deal with thats for sure. I could not get anything inside the hole to lift properly without damaging the battery. I tried a bunch of ideas. The manufacturer says to lift by the negative terminal
The Do It Yourself World Well good enough then if thats what the mmanufacturesays.
PS. what part of the country do you live in. I'm in the foot hills of north Carolina. thanks again.
Upstate NY
Get two taps. One tap to start the threading. Break the tip or grind the top off the second tap. Use it to finish the threading. If you get 75% of a thread, it will be OK. The lead is soft and the bolt will roll-thread it in the rest of the way. You can also buy thin nuts and thin wall wrenches if there is 3/16" of a gap under the lead bar. If you heat those up enough to melt something, your also risking the plastic on the cell top. I'd avoid that nonsense.
I imagine you slept well that night Troy those battery's are about 60kg each most people would not even try and lift them they would say health and safety as an excuse to not do it. At work im not allowed to lift more that 13kg how annoying is that.
goggles, gloves, leather apron. You don't want to wreck your clothes, but I think there are more important "bits" to protect. No matter why you are wearing the gear, I am sure many commenters on part I will no doubt be relieved.
I know this was filmed on Christmas, but "Happy New Year's Eve to you" is more appropriate now. So there!
Thank you. Happy New Year
well done, having said that must say I cringe every time I see batteries sitting on the ground or concrete, always heard either would kill batteries ?
Where I am from one never ever sets batteries on direct dirt or cement do negative draw from the batteries. always place a wood board or something non conductive between them. This from the old timers.
Really as of when i got out of the batteries in the 80's so I am yes prob behind times.
still cant break the habit of not setting them on the ground tho lol
Stan Osterhoudt I was thinking the same thing as I sat them on the ground. But soon after I put them on boards anyway. Old habits do die hard. lol
Myth
this is no longer applicable. it comes from back when the battery cases used to be made out of wood and tar. the plastic cases now are better insolating then any wood plank put under them. place the batteries on the concrete all you want, no harm will come of it
Troy. Please get a face shield. Goggles only protect eyes. Acid can burn skin and leave major scarring with other medical issues. I have seen this where I work. Not a pretty picture. You are no longer dealing with consumer equipment. You are now in the major leagues working with industrial equipment. Please do as I suggested earlier. Check the safety requirements on the material safety sheet for the acid. Best of luck.
Yes that is a very good point actually. I have worked with batteries my whole life and seen what they do to clothing. One single drop means a hole in your jeans.
Can u tell us how long can u use 500 am hours befor u need to charge them
It really depends on your power needs. I only use a laptop, cell phone, netbook and some LED lights for the most part. Plus charging up some flashlight batteries. It would last me 3 to 5 days on reserve power with cloudy days.
The Do It Yourself World Well, it will be a rare day that you get neither wind nor sun.
u should of let air out of ur ties bud get that extra room
I know this is a stupid rhetorical question but why didn't you shorten the chain on the hoist? You have the means, we saw it on your last video. Plus; why did you not shorten the strap used to hook onto the cell? it was shortened by a knot tied in it. Why didn't you tie another knot? shorter?? why Troy? You could have lifted the cell out ENTIRELY with the lift and driven the truck away, then lower the cells into your little wagon.Until you begin to do things more efficiently please don't display your goof-ups, edit them out. Your bloody trolls do not need any more ammo. I'm grinnin like a cat eatin a canary over the monster battery you now have!! Rock on, lift smarter, Trust your gut,, and lift with your head. Don't end up a crip like me.
Remove tailgate and you can get lift closer
ok i see now !1
Trucking terminals & food storage warehouses use electric forklifts.
Look into something called a step drill bit.
Try to avoid setting things on the ground, make life easier.
Well I was gonna say something but it loks like you have enough critics.
Reminds me...Camaro needs a new battery...dagnabbitt.
Why don't they EVER seem to go bad in summertime, when it's WARM?!? d=^(
I know. lol
The Do It Yourself World
Cheat mode: Start cranking with the door open. That gets a little power moving to the interior lights...when you slam the door shut, the power that was going to the lights goes to the starter and she fires right up. d=^D
Amazing the little tricks that SHOULDN'T POSSIBLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE that you learn after having the same car for 30 years... d;o)
Wind turbines???
After I get a battery bank set up that holds power from them, yes
tree branch+rope+block and tackle= cheaply take out cells. why buy the engine crane?
Lift it out and stop being a weakling. So much for your new coat you already ruined it by grabbing the battery, once it's washed it will be full of holes now.
There are neutralizing agent that can save his clothes in the washer.
Sure is JK
timcat100 lol
Why wouldn't you wear an old coat when your handling corroded batteries? You are aware of what acid can do and yet you get your "new coat" arms all over the sides of the batteries where the acid has been dripping. I stretch my dollars as far as they can go and I change clothes if I'm picking up a simple car battery because I know how easy they are to ruin when exposed to acid. What's the deal? You don't save old clothes for dirty jobs? You don't have any old clothes because you don't really live there? You don't value you new clothes enough to change? You just didn't think about? I won't lie, watching a guy that is suppose to have limited funds and depends on the kindness of others for donations, this was hard to watch.
A good guess is that Troy keeps what he needs and passes on what he does not need. I suspect Troy's "old" coat is keeping someone who had no coat warm. That's how things are done on the po' end of town.
eaglehill6 OMG!!!! NOT the JACKET!!!! **flails her arms around wildly and screams***
Barbs Morning Garden I seriously just gave myself the giggles.
you say it was hard to watch, but you did, and then commented about it. Thanks for helping making the Off Grid Project more money!
When did I say I was mad? I'm just curious.
I got first