Some of the things you are addressing, like AMD users don't care about RT or that it sucks or that Nvidia is sponsoring RT games to deliberately hurt AMD are things fanboys say, they're also dead giveaways to me to not bother engaging to reason with people like this because it's pointless as I'm not the type of person that likes to argue but more of a live and let live. The other sides equivalent would be people that say AMD is trash with broken drivers or FSR is unusable. These people don't represent the average Nvidia or AMD user in the least. The fanboy types will say whatever it is that feels advantageous to feel like they've won a debate at the time and if you prove them wrong with facts they'll call you biased or that you doctored the footage or that you underclocked one card and overclocked the other. It's a waste of time lol. I for one welcome AMD strengthening their ray tracing capabilities because it is a high end feature that matters even though a few individuals may think it doesn't, it does. I also don't think that Nvidia sponsored RT titles are designed to hurt AMD gpu's, I think Nvidia have had an advantage in RT not just from a hardware and software level that they support them by funding game development. We've had AMD sponsored RT games like Jedi Survivor, Callisto Protocol or Avatar, Nvidia GPU's still have an RT advantage there too. For me I like the tech hardware and gaming and innovation in the space is exciting, it doesnt matter if its AMD, Nvidia, Intel or all three who bring new features and technologies. I think most people would feel this way unless you're a brand fanaticve than you are going to make it all about brand wars than the tech and how that tech makes PC gaming a more interesting and immersive space.
Also one thing that's often not mentioned is that AMD actually made some very nice ray tracing gains with RX 7000 GPU's. In my own comparisons for example a 7900XTX is very comparable to my 3080Ti with ray tracing enabled. Thats around an RTX 4070 Super level of ray tracing. RTX 4000 would of course have more of an advantage with multiple types or RT effects and with path tracing, especially if shader execution reordering is used which is an RTX 4000 exclusive architecture feature games libe Cyberpunk/AW2 and I think Wukong and a few others support (Portal RTX)
@TerraWare I completely agree dude! I'm personally looking forward to it. I'm actually really looking forward to Battlmage at the moment more than anything else. More than anything, just to see how far Intel can go in the second generation..
@@TerraWare That's what I posted, RT was worse on the 6000 series, so really i'm expecting further improvement to RT on 8000 I don't like these rumours however about the Raster being worse than the XTX. If that's the case then I don't upgrade to a 8000 series I want a more powerful GPU if going to upgrade As always i'll be checking hardware unboxed for 3rd party benchmarks and maybe if you do some videos about it you as well 👍 I never take anything AMD or Nvidia say until I see those benchmarks
@@RJTHEGAME I stay away from rumors. There's so much misinformation even credible leakers get a lot of things wrong. The final product will be what it is anyway.
I’m someone that owns a 4070 ti super. I first wanted to go with AMD and bought a 7900xtx. I found that this card was running too hot to use it in my non air conditioned basement office and decided to find something that would run cooler. In this process I ended up buying a new case with much more airflow and also found that my CPU needed to be upgraded - I say all this because after the fact I realized I didn’t get to see the 7900xtx at full power. It was hitting thermal limits and the CPU was throttling it. I am kind of interested in RDNA 4. I’m disappointed it won’t quite match the 7900xtx, but I like the idea of AMD GPUs and I want them to succeed so there is actually competition in the GPU space. Rumors are that the 8800xt or whatever it’s called will be around $500 and be 4nm so the heat of the chip should be way down. If they can throw in RT that matches the equivalent 40 series card I think that would be compelling. The leaks on the 5080 are kind of disappointing- it’s not going to match the 4090 if the leaks are true. I’m not ok paying $1000 for ~ 25% more performance, but $500 for an AMD card that is supposed to basically be around a 4080 super is compelling to me. I want to build a 2nd gaming pc with my extra parts so I’d just slot my 4070ti super in there. The point of my post though is I’m one of those people that is interested in AMD GPUs because I feel that AMD can provide better value and keep nvidia on their toes. They just need to beef up their RT and not be greedy. The rumor mill suggests that RDNA 5 may be where they finally pull it all together- much better RT, lower power, and competing in the high end. I think I’d be very happy with RDNA 4 while we’re waiting for RDNA 5 - which it sounds like is going to come maybe within a year of RDNA 4 - I’m guessing RDNA5 will just be at the high end initially, leaving RDNA 4 to fill the mid tier to low tier for a while.
@@strangedotmachine9281 I think the 8800xt could be a really good gpu. Priced aggressive and with better efficiency I might be tempted to pick up one myself. As for the 5080 I'm not sure. I did hear initially below 4090 performance so it would fall in line with sales to China. I've since heard a rumour they will make a 5090 specific for China so we can only wait and see. Again efficiency and price could be key.
You're definitely not wrong from what I've been able to see either when it comes to people that are hardcore AMD they never and I mean ever criticize AMF lol like everything is absolutely perfect. And I see plenty of people who are hardcore Nvidia say things that they want to get better
Apologies if I'm misunderstanding or missing context, as I've had to watch this in bits across the day, but I'm a bit bemused by you saying AMD doesn't have dedicated ray tracing hardware and hoping they start to work on ray tracing. Haven't done a deep dive but their site says 7000 series has ray accelerators and ai accelerators? And doesn't the fact that you can turn on ray tracing suggest they are doing it, irrespective of what hardware it is or if it's dedicated. AMD is well and truly on the bandwagon because to be competitive they need to offer a comparable experience in terms of featureset. To me the fact that they're not as good at ray tracing is just a function of starting later, less resources perhaps etc. The whole is AMD focussing on raster, Nvidia on ai and RT is most likely a convenient way to market the current status or defend having a Radeon if being challenged about it and feeling defensive about it. From what I understand there is external pressure to move to RT rather than rasterisation due to increased complexity and cost during game development required in order to make rasterisation look close to realistic, on top of this ai is also more relevant in graphics processing. meaning if GPU makers makers don't keep up with what users are expecting in comparison to other GPUs they'll likely become truly obsolete not just slower, imagine a world where all games are only RT based because the developer can cut massive cost and time doing so. Not to mention I'm pretty sure Rasterisation was just a workaround essentially due to GPUs not being powerful enough to do RT and the more shiny we want games the harder that gets, now as GPUs get powerful enough it's just a matter of time surely.
@@Dylanwill8920 No sorry yes you are right they do have some RT and AI cores just a much lower amount or less mature. But yes the impression given in most let's say arguments between AMD/Nvidia over RT is that RT is a waste of time and not of interest by the AMD owners who prefer raster performance. So the conversation is more pointing towards is that an honest opinion, and If so how do they feel about AMD putting more resources into RT if that is what AMD intend to do next gen..
@@Spratty-wb3is Yeah to that I guess I'd say its not a very honest opinion or is misleading. Surely there's those who chose to buy a radeon gpu because they simply wanted best rasterised performance for the price or more vram or similar argument, But then there's also going to be a large number of people with their AMD getting defensive about criticism and then trying to justify it and this is the convenient reason. I wonder what they'll say when RT is good enough on either and rasterisation is no longer the fallback left when you turn off RT and maybe have the extra option in some games to turn on raster for performance boost instead of RT(near future rather than distant future), probably the same vibes as the discussion between AMD and nVidia in the days before RT and AI e.g. "nVidia has Gsync" vs "AMD is bringing out freesync soon and it doesn't require expensive gsync module" . There seems to have always been fanboys either side, just swap in and swap out the reasons they throw at eachother. I think the main reasons they "aren't interested" is because of the limited performance relative to raster right now, and or that it doesn't look as good to them possibly because it has to be limited to actually run well enough on any gpu brand, the second one being subjective. We are in a transition between the two at the moment and so funnily enough people are divided on which is better. If or when its basically all RT games then there wont be a choice and we will find a new thing to compare and take sides on. Surely the need for the performance to run it is partly why upscalers have become such a big thing lately, gpus have gotten huge and have tens of thousands of cuda cores or shaders but i guess progress is not fast enough towards RT purely on hardware growth alone so now we have the workaround of compromising on base render resolution to help get the power for needed for RT it seems. Sorry gone on a bit of a tangent here thinking outloud but I guess what im saying is there'll always be something to complain about or compare and comparison is the thief of joy, and however we look at it and however much you paid for green or red or blue you're still getting to play games with epic performance compared to ten years ago. Theres a saying in the MTB community, "just run what ya brung" have fun playing your games how you want.
@@Dylanwill8920 Dude it was a good read and I agree with what your saying. I completely agree that RT is rubbished on performance. If RT had no performance cost I'm sure everybody is running RT. And yeah when we get to the point RT performs the same between all brands, we will inevitably move on to a new argument 😂
To be fair aswell, the only reason we're prone to arguing is cos we're enthusiasts or passionate. You know who's not arguing about RT Vs raster or anything GPU related, my partner she's more likely to argue whether your bookshelf should be organised alphabetically or by colour, but then she's a bookthusiast. So it's all good fun.😂
As I understand it AMD plan too improve Ray tracing but won't be on par with Nvidia's since they are at least a generation behind and also depends on what kind of methods they use. So for me i'll take an improvement to RT but it really depends on how it looks on a game and if it's worth the performance hit. First Descendant it looks great without RT & I can't really tell a difference mostly, I prefer a higher FPS in these games and been playing without RT the last week. At AMD Native AA i'm really liking the image quality actually I'd like an improvement to games like Alan Wake 2, Cyberpunk where it does make a larger difference with RT AMD should know they need too improve and think they are well aware of it, that's also why they have introduced their own FG and they are playing catch up with Nvidia. Apparently RDNA 4 is meant to be better for Ray tracing and that's why all the talk with the PS5 PRO having it talks up RT. Still not sure how that is going to boost PS5 PRO much since there's very little hardware change, but I think the Next AMD GPUs should be better at RT The 7000 series is better at RT compared to the 6000 I think. I imagine AMD stay strong with Raster but will also look too improve RT. If they focus less on Raster & give more performance on RT I think because it will still be behind Nvidias RT, it's a bit silly. They need too keep their strengths and close the gap with RT. That way PC Gamers will think "Well RT is better so it gives me another option" If RT is a smaller hit to performance then I can see more ppl looking at AMD GPUs, also improving FSR would help
@@RJTHEGAME Yeah I agree! In the long run AMD making RT a slightly higher priority is gonna be better for them in the long run as it could sway Nvidia users over...
Amd needs to improve their price and somehow get more market share. As bad as Nvidia was with greed, AMD was even greedier with the 7000 series, especially with its naming scheme to specs. AMD need to make a 4090 for $800, AMD doesnt have the encoders that nvidia has, amd doesn't use cuda cores, amd doesn't have a lot of things that have been popularized by Nvidia, amd is a lot slower at ai and 3d modeling etc,etc. Nvidia has even more missing features popularized by amd but nobody cares enough to merit change from nvidia.
@DonovanMcNabb5 I dunno, Nvidia get their fair share of pushback and the 4080 12GB was a good example. 4070ti super is probably another as I can't imagine that ridiculous name was intended. AMD messed up big on the 7900xt-7900xtx launch price. But I wonder if they will look over their shoulder when battlemage lunch if that's priced aggressive and with a better upscaler and RT at the midrange..
So wait if the card isnt as good as the xtx but will have better rt? Where will it land. If the xtx is around 3090 rt. It also is around 4080 raster performance . So this card will be less powerful and better rt..so whar 4070ti level rt?
@c523jw7 I think it's supposed to be somewhere between 7900xt-7900xtx with better RT performance. I'm pretty sure they said not 4080 level so maybe 4070ti I guess yeah. I'm pretty sure it's held back until next year now..
@@Spratty-wb3is watch the same people shi# talk 4080 rt and pt ability now thunk AMD can do rt and pt. It's hilarious I'm seeing people showing 7900xt running 80fps with amd fg and amd fsr performance with the pt mod that strip's the 2nd bounce light. Showing it inside not outside in the city either lol. This is still worse than 4080 performance and quite stripped back..but it's playable..but not when the 4080.does it with the original settings. I swear all this stuff is bad until amd can do it. It's clear cope. People rationalise to make themselves feel better. It's fg all over again
That's me keeping the XTX then if they don't release a card more powerful lol I'll just keep the money I saved up for a real upgrade in the 9000 series. It would be silly from AMD if they do this
@RJTHEGAME yep. I'm not upgrading next gen. 7900xtx is gonna be a killer gpu for a very long time. 4080 rt performance is very good and pt at 1440p goes well but if you got a xtx I just wouldn't upgrade till I get more than 4080. Esp if you get less raster. That's a minus.
@@c523jw7 Yeah I think unless it's a big difference I won't be upgrading, not really confident about these new Ryzen CPUs either being better than the 7000X3Ds, already been delayed now
What are you talking about? RT is dead. Upscaler is dead, and FG is also dead. #RasterPowah 😂😂😂😂😂 Real talk Sony will push RT marketing with the PRO. That is gonna be the selling point watch.
Imagine when digital foundry do the ps5 pro vs amd comparisons and show ps5 pro pisser upscaling looking better and out performing the 7900xtx in rt 😂😂@OniiXGaming
Some of the things you are addressing, like AMD users don't care about RT or that it sucks or that Nvidia is sponsoring RT games to deliberately hurt AMD are things fanboys say, they're also dead giveaways to me to not bother engaging to reason with people like this because it's pointless as I'm not the type of person that likes to argue but more of a live and let live. The other sides equivalent would be people that say AMD is trash with broken drivers or FSR is unusable. These people don't represent the average Nvidia or AMD user in the least. The fanboy types will say whatever it is that feels advantageous to feel like they've won a debate at the time and if you prove them wrong with facts they'll call you biased or that you doctored the footage or that you underclocked one card and overclocked the other. It's a waste of time lol.
I for one welcome AMD strengthening their ray tracing capabilities because it is a high end feature that matters even though a few individuals may think it doesn't, it does. I also don't think that Nvidia sponsored RT titles are designed to hurt AMD gpu's, I think Nvidia have had an advantage in RT not just from a hardware and software level that they support them by funding game development. We've had AMD sponsored RT games like Jedi Survivor, Callisto Protocol or Avatar, Nvidia GPU's still have an RT advantage there too. For me I like the tech hardware and gaming and innovation in the space is exciting, it doesnt matter if its AMD, Nvidia, Intel or all three who bring new features and technologies. I think most people would feel this way unless you're a brand fanaticve than you are going to make it all about brand wars than the tech and how that tech makes PC gaming a more interesting and immersive space.
Also one thing that's often not mentioned is that AMD actually made some very nice ray tracing gains with RX 7000 GPU's. In my own comparisons for example a 7900XTX is very comparable to my 3080Ti with ray tracing enabled. Thats around an RTX 4070 Super level of ray tracing. RTX 4000 would of course have more of an advantage with multiple types or RT effects and with path tracing, especially if shader execution reordering is used which is an RTX 4000 exclusive architecture feature games libe Cyberpunk/AW2 and I think Wukong and a few others support (Portal RTX)
@TerraWare I completely agree dude!
I'm personally looking forward to it.
I'm actually really looking forward to Battlmage at the moment more than anything else.
More than anything, just to see how far Intel can go in the second generation..
@@TerraWare That's what I posted, RT was worse on the 6000 series, so really i'm expecting further improvement to RT on 8000
I don't like these rumours however about the Raster being worse than the XTX. If that's the case then I don't upgrade to a 8000 series
I want a more powerful GPU if going to upgrade
As always i'll be checking hardware unboxed for 3rd party benchmarks and maybe if you do some videos about it you as well
👍
I never take anything AMD or Nvidia say until I see those benchmarks
@@RJTHEGAME I stay away from rumors. There's so much misinformation even credible leakers get a lot of things wrong. The final product will be what it is anyway.
I’m someone that owns a 4070 ti super. I first wanted to go with AMD and bought a 7900xtx. I found that this card was running too hot to use it in my non air conditioned basement office and decided to find something that would run cooler. In this process I ended up buying a new case with much more airflow and also found that my CPU needed to be upgraded - I say all this because after the fact I realized I didn’t get to see the 7900xtx at full power. It was hitting thermal limits and the CPU was throttling it.
I am kind of interested in RDNA 4. I’m disappointed it won’t quite match the 7900xtx, but I like the idea of AMD GPUs and I want them to succeed so there is actually competition in the GPU space.
Rumors are that the 8800xt or whatever it’s called will be around $500 and be 4nm so the heat of the chip should be way down. If they can throw in RT that matches the equivalent 40 series card I think that would be compelling.
The leaks on the 5080 are kind of disappointing- it’s not going to match the 4090 if the leaks are true. I’m not ok paying $1000 for ~ 25% more performance, but $500 for an AMD card that is supposed to basically be around a 4080 super is compelling to me. I want to build a 2nd gaming pc with my extra parts so I’d just slot my 4070ti super in there.
The point of my post though is I’m one of those people that is interested in AMD GPUs because I feel that AMD can provide better value and keep nvidia on their toes. They just need to beef up their RT and not be greedy.
The rumor mill suggests that RDNA 5 may be where they finally pull it all together- much better RT, lower power, and competing in the high end. I think I’d be very happy with RDNA 4 while we’re waiting for RDNA 5 - which it sounds like is going to come maybe within a year of RDNA 4 - I’m guessing RDNA5 will just be at the high end initially, leaving RDNA 4 to fill the mid tier to low tier for a while.
@@strangedotmachine9281 I think the 8800xt could be a really good gpu.
Priced aggressive and with better efficiency I might be tempted to pick up one myself.
As for the 5080 I'm not sure.
I did hear initially below 4090 performance so it would fall in line with sales to China.
I've since heard a rumour they will make a 5090 specific for China so we can only wait and see.
Again efficiency and price could be key.
You gotta be kidding if you think that AMD will have a 500$ card equal to 4080S, they already have that card, it's called 7900XTX, and it ain't 500$.
You're definitely not wrong from what I've been able to see either when it comes to people that are hardcore AMD they never and I mean ever criticize AMF lol like everything is absolutely perfect. And I see plenty of people who are hardcore Nvidia say things that they want to get better
@@timothysullivan-pm3sl I'm glad it's not just me then 😅
@@Spratty-wb3is no no lol
Well ancient gameplay will but he's literally the only one lol
Apologies if I'm misunderstanding or missing context, as I've had to watch this in bits across the day, but I'm a bit bemused by you saying AMD doesn't have dedicated ray tracing hardware and hoping they start to work on ray tracing. Haven't done a deep dive but their site says 7000 series has ray accelerators and ai accelerators? And doesn't the fact that you can turn on ray tracing suggest they are doing it, irrespective of what hardware it is or if it's dedicated. AMD is well and truly on the bandwagon because to be competitive they need to offer a comparable experience in terms of featureset. To me the fact that they're not as good at ray tracing is just a function of starting later, less resources perhaps etc. The whole is AMD focussing on raster, Nvidia on ai and RT is most likely a convenient way to market the current status or defend having a Radeon if being challenged about it and feeling defensive about it. From what I understand there is external pressure to move to RT rather than rasterisation due to increased complexity and cost during game development required in order to make rasterisation look close to realistic, on top of this ai is also more relevant in graphics processing. meaning if GPU makers makers don't keep up with what users are expecting in comparison to other GPUs they'll likely become truly obsolete not just slower, imagine a world where all games are only RT based because the developer can cut massive cost and time doing so. Not to mention I'm pretty sure Rasterisation was just a workaround essentially due to GPUs not being powerful enough to do RT and the more shiny we want games the harder that gets, now as GPUs get powerful enough it's just a matter of time surely.
@@Dylanwill8920 No sorry yes you are right they do have some RT and AI cores just a much lower amount or less mature.
But yes the impression given in most let's say arguments between AMD/Nvidia over RT is that RT is a waste of time and not of interest by the AMD owners who prefer raster performance.
So the conversation is more pointing towards is that an honest opinion, and If so how do they feel about AMD putting more resources into RT if that is what AMD intend to do next gen..
@@Spratty-wb3is Yeah to that I guess I'd say its not a very honest opinion or is misleading. Surely there's those who chose to buy a radeon gpu because they simply wanted best rasterised performance for the price or more vram or similar argument, But then there's also going to be a large number of people with their AMD getting defensive about criticism and then trying to justify it and this is the convenient reason. I wonder what they'll say when RT is good enough on either and rasterisation is no longer the fallback left when you turn off RT and maybe have the extra option in some games to turn on raster for performance boost instead of RT(near future rather than distant future), probably the same vibes as the discussion between AMD and nVidia in the days before RT and AI e.g. "nVidia has Gsync" vs "AMD is bringing out freesync soon and it doesn't require expensive gsync module" . There seems to have always been fanboys either side, just swap in and swap out the reasons they throw at eachother. I think the main reasons they "aren't interested" is because of the limited performance relative to raster right now, and or that it doesn't look as good to them possibly because it has to be limited to actually run well enough on any gpu brand, the second one being subjective. We are in a transition between the two at the moment and so funnily enough people are divided on which is better. If or when its basically all RT games then there wont be a choice and we will find a new thing to compare and take sides on. Surely the need for the performance to run it is partly why upscalers have become such a big thing lately, gpus have gotten huge and have tens of thousands of cuda cores or shaders but i guess progress is not fast enough towards RT purely on hardware growth alone so now we have the workaround of compromising on base render resolution to help get the power for needed for RT it seems. Sorry gone on a bit of a tangent here thinking outloud but I guess what im saying is there'll always be something to complain about or compare and comparison is the thief of joy, and however we look at it and however much you paid for green or red or blue you're still getting to play games with epic performance compared to ten years ago. Theres a saying in the MTB community, "just run what ya brung" have fun playing your games how you want.
@@Dylanwill8920 Dude it was a good read and I agree with what your saying.
I completely agree that RT is rubbished on performance.
If RT had no performance cost I'm sure everybody is running RT.
And yeah when we get to the point RT performs the same between all brands, we will inevitably move on to a new argument 😂
To be fair aswell, the only reason we're prone to arguing is cos we're enthusiasts or passionate. You know who's not arguing about RT Vs raster or anything GPU related, my partner she's more likely to argue whether your bookshelf should be organised alphabetically or by colour, but then she's a bookthusiast. So it's all good fun.😂
As I understand it AMD plan too improve Ray tracing but won't be on par with Nvidia's since they are at least a generation behind and also depends on what kind of methods they use.
So for me i'll take an improvement to RT but it really depends on how it looks on a game and if it's worth the performance hit.
First Descendant it looks great without RT & I can't really tell a difference mostly, I prefer a higher FPS in these games and been playing without RT the last week.
At AMD Native AA i'm really liking the image quality actually
I'd like an improvement to games like Alan Wake 2, Cyberpunk where it does make a larger difference with RT
AMD should know they need too improve and think they are well aware of it, that's also why they have introduced their own FG and they are playing catch up with Nvidia.
Apparently RDNA 4 is meant to be better for Ray tracing and that's why all the talk with the PS5 PRO having it talks up RT.
Still not sure how that is going to boost PS5 PRO much since there's very little hardware change, but I think the Next AMD GPUs should be better at RT
The 7000 series is better at RT compared to the 6000 I think. I imagine AMD stay strong with Raster but will also look too improve RT.
If they focus less on Raster & give more performance on RT I think because it will still be behind Nvidias RT, it's a bit silly.
They need too keep their strengths and close the gap with RT.
That way PC Gamers will think "Well RT is better so it gives me another option" If RT is a smaller hit to performance then I can see more ppl looking at AMD GPUs, also improving FSR would help
@@RJTHEGAME Yeah I agree!
In the long run AMD making RT a slightly higher priority is gonna be better for them in the long run as it could sway Nvidia users over...
@@Spratty-wb3is defo
Amd needs to improve their price and somehow get more market share. As bad as Nvidia was with greed, AMD was even greedier with the 7000 series, especially with its naming scheme to specs. AMD need to make a 4090 for $800, AMD doesnt have the encoders that nvidia has, amd doesn't use cuda cores, amd doesn't have a lot of things that have been popularized by Nvidia, amd is a lot slower at ai and 3d modeling etc,etc. Nvidia has even more missing features popularized by amd but nobody cares enough to merit change from nvidia.
@DonovanMcNabb5 I dunno, Nvidia get their fair share of pushback and the 4080 12GB was a good example.
4070ti super is probably another as I can't imagine that ridiculous name was intended.
AMD messed up big on the 7900xt-7900xtx launch price.
But I wonder if they will look over their shoulder when battlemage lunch if that's priced aggressive and with a better upscaler and RT at the midrange..
So wait if the card isnt as good as the xtx but will have better rt? Where will it land.
If the xtx is around 3090 rt. It also is around 4080 raster performance . So this card will be less powerful and better rt..so whar 4070ti level rt?
@c523jw7 I think it's supposed to be somewhere between 7900xt-7900xtx with better RT performance.
I'm pretty sure they said not 4080 level so maybe 4070ti I guess yeah.
I'm pretty sure it's held back until next year now..
@@Spratty-wb3is watch the same people shi# talk 4080 rt and pt ability now thunk AMD can do rt and pt.
It's hilarious I'm seeing people showing 7900xt running 80fps with amd fg and amd fsr performance with the pt mod that strip's the 2nd bounce light. Showing it inside not outside in the city either lol. This is still worse than 4080 performance and quite stripped back..but it's playable..but not when the 4080.does it with the original settings.
I swear all this stuff is bad until amd can do it. It's clear cope.
People rationalise to make themselves feel better. It's fg all over again
That's me keeping the XTX then if they don't release a card more powerful lol
I'll just keep the money I saved up for a real upgrade in the 9000 series.
It would be silly from AMD if they do this
@RJTHEGAME yep. I'm not upgrading next gen. 7900xtx is gonna be a killer gpu for a very long time. 4080 rt performance is very good and pt at 1440p goes well but if you got a xtx I just wouldn't upgrade till I get more than 4080. Esp if you get less raster. That's a minus.
@@c523jw7 Yeah I think unless it's a big difference I won't be upgrading, not really confident about these new Ryzen CPUs either being better than the 7000X3Ds, already been delayed now
What are you talking about? RT is dead. Upscaler is dead, and FG is also dead. #RasterPowah 😂😂😂😂😂
Real talk Sony will push RT marketing with the PRO. That is gonna be the selling point watch.
@OniiXGaming 🤣🤣🤣...
I think your right about Sony.
I think Intel we're pushing hard for the console contracts and probably pushed RT..
@@Spratty-wb3is exactly they have no choice.
Imagine when digital foundry do the ps5 pro vs amd comparisons and show ps5 pro pisser upscaling looking better and out performing the 7900xtx in rt 😂😂@OniiXGaming
Ray tracing is a tech that's in beta..I'm gonna go turn on afmf and game with Powah 😂
@c523jw7 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 Sony ditching FSR alone is crazy. They decide to invest resource instead of using a free one.