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@TerraWare I'm sure you'd figure it out in the time it takes me to type it 😂.. But whilst your here lol.. UE5 cpu usage being dangerous! , what do you think?

@JamesGibson-fg5lj if your just wanting to undervolt I'd suggest leaving the minimum at 500 and lower the maximum. If you want to overclock you need to raise the minimum..

@@Spratty-wb3is thanks and do you think 1120 mV will be stable

@@JamesGibson-fg5lj 1120? On XTX.. I think they are 1150 stock right? You can go lower than that and be stable. I ran 1060 with no issues but every gpu is different..

Really? 😂

@@Spratty-wb3is riding the walls and crashing into people at high speeds with no damage is not simulation.

@DonovanMcNabb5 it's got full damage 😂... That's the first time in 30 attempts I've finished a 20min race with all 4 wheels left on the car..

@@Spratty-wb3is I havent played competizione, i cant remember if the other had damage, but i like when the axle gets messed up and you basically cant drive it.

@DonovanMcNabb5 that's what this does!.. It doesn't take much to end your race .. If its cosmetic you can fix some of it in the pits at a big time cost. If its more than that and your driving in a circle your race is pretty much done!

@user-oy2lr2cr2i I noticed an update downloading last night but I've yet to try it out! I'll check it out today and see if I can figure something out... What resolution you running?

Yeah I'll give I racing a go at some point. I've got a bit of a wireless Internet black spot where my sim rig is so for the moment I'm trying to avoid online racing .. Thanks, I'll check out a FOV calculator, I've not even thought about it 😅

@c523jw7 I'll check whilst I'm not recording.. I think quality upscale and phsyco was in 50's and frame gen took it too around 80 and felt really good. No overclock..

@Spratty-wb3is thanks dude. This was doing my head in clearly lmao. Wondering if ddr5 ram is making a difference here. Surely it would all add up. Better cpu and ram has got to give some boost.

@c523jw7 I'm mid 50s fully maxed with rt pshyco in that area

@Spratty-wb3is ok so I go high fortie to early 50s and mid. So I'm less but somewhat close.

@c523jw7 yeah your not far off.. Frame gen works really well in this situation to around 80? Actually feels close to 80 as well.. Definitely feels better than 60.

@c523jw7 If all your getting is a slightly softer image then absolutely. I'm pretty sure when I checked performance last time I started to see a loss of detail though and some artifacts. Nothing bad but definitely noticed something. I'll run it in the daytime today and try and check it out a bit better..

@c523jw7 GPU or Display scaling ? Dude I don't even know what that is 😬😅

@Spratty-wb3is it's in nviida control panel under aspect ratio. Wondering if changing it you will notice it. I wonder if people who really feel the input lag have got the settings for their pc wrong. I'll be honest the input lag feels less on gpu noticeably for me. Evetyhing just feels lighter.

@@c523jw7 mines default set to display! I wonder if there's a difference between TV and monitor?

@timothysullivan-pm3sl if they are aggressive with the 8800xt it should sell well

@@Spratty-wb3is I really think so too. It will make things suuppeeerrrr interesting

7900XTX is a f. junk

@freak777power I mean it's definitely not what I'm looking for lol I like the bells and whistles but if you just care about good raster performance then it's kind of beast

I suffer motion sickness pretty bad! I really want to try it but I'm pretty sure I know already what will happen 😢😂

I suffer motion sickness pretty bad! I really want to try it but I'm pretty sure I know already what will happen 😢😂

@@Spratty-wb3is LOL yea the tech isn't affordable yet, and we just got 4k/240hz so it might be getting close. If they can just make the headset with the proper lens, no battery, no expensive processor and just make it affordable...

In europe NVIDIA prices are usually 200-300€ more. And i just checked the prices there and they are the same for the equivalent versions. I don't know where you saw they are higher.

@@gomesiano here in the usa the 7900xtx is about the same price as the 4080super ($1100-$1200 depending on model) but even the Taichi/Nitro/Tuf/RedDevil should really be about be maxed priced around $850-$900. That's what I'm trying to say. 24gb and raster is great but it's not enough for the regular person to buy it at 4080super prices. Game capture is a little sharper on Nvidia, dlss is coming to every big game, better power draw (untuned), easier out of box experience, etc, etc... Nvidia has big flaws but the normal user don't recognize them. I'm an AMD user but having both 4080/7900xtx I know the 7900xtx should be priced a lot lower.

@OniiXGaming Dude I can't believe it's taken this long to get FFB in a flightstick 😂

@@laracroft8553 Which 32" 4k did you go for?

@@Spratty-wb3is The new QD-oled AW3225qf 240 hz has a slight curve which I like over the flat versions of the panel, but it seems well built and beautiful picture.

@laracroft8553 I'm torn between that and the MSI. After using the 34" Ultrawide I did get used to that curve, which I wasn't sure about with to start. Now flat seems strange 😅..

@c523jw7 if I remember it's pretty close. The XTX without RT I'm pretty sure has a decent lead in this game. RT they end up pretty even I think. You wanna play it RT though. I turned it off and I found it does make quite a bit of difference..

Quality rt and maxxed without fg its not 60 on 4080..in 50s. Fg your good. A game that would look good in ultra wide and put it to 60. This game was one where dlss performance at 4k looked better than fsr quality to me. Interesting to hear fsr balanced looks good to you here.​@@Spratty-wb3is

​@@Spratty-wb3isalso a res like 3840 x 1080p has more pixels than 2560x 1440p. Is this 3k?? It has double the pixels of trad 1080p. So calling it 1080p is misleading. Iv also noticed the amount of pixels above the 1440p range is alot and it still looks incredibly good. Digital foundry talk about 8k being pointless and you dont notice it much from 4k. Diminishing returns. I wonder if theres a bit of that going on? Wonder if you feel so underwhlemed about ultra wide becuase your going to a 27 inch 4k after 34 inch ultrawise..got to be it.

@c523jw7 what dlss preset is 50s? FSR balanced was dropping into 50s. But yeah it actually looked pretty damn good. Was a bit of ghosting if you had fine detail objects behind the character but no real stand out shimmer and it didn't look low res like cyberpunk did. I was pretty surprised!

@c523jw7 3840x1080p is still 1080p but stretched like ultrawide. Resolution runs in the vertical. If it ends 1080p it's 1080p. 1440p. 2160 etc. An ultrawide has more pixels compared to 16:9 to fill the extra length of the screen. It'll have more pixels. But the density will remain the same.

@debiandreb5210 admittedly I've not tried DRS. Did it look OK? That should give you a decent performance bump..

@@Spratty-wb3is yes, for me at 55" 4k tv it looks nice

@@c523jw7 absolutely 😅

@timothysullivan-pm3sl I'd love to help dude but I've not live streamed anything myself. I'd have to look into it. All I've done so far is capture and upload.

@@Spratty-wb3is its all good buddy.…oddly their is just not any good videos on how to do it its driving me crazy lmao or at least I have not found one yet

@timothysullivan-pm3sl Dude everything I try to watch on content creation I find a nightmare. I'm pretty much going trial and error 🤣

@@Spratty-wb3is lmao

@@timothysullivan-pm3sl It's such a good game! I really need to get some hours back into it..

@@OniiXGaming I'll check that out! I think I'll have to go XLR... 32" 16:9 or 34" UW is definitely the limit of my desk space 😏... BF5 has RT? How did I not know that !

Buy a bigger desk JK😂 And yes BFV was a RT tech demo. One of those games amd guys love so much😂 ​@@Spratty-wb3is

@strangedotmachine9281 I'd love too but I don't have the room and I d be say too close..

@debiandreb5210 if I remember very similar. I think the XTX has a decent raster advantage in this game so they end up very similar after RT. Although Nvidia might have Frame gen also available!

@DonovanMcNabb5 I don't think I've ran Fortnite with RT. I'll be honest, I didn't know it had RT 😅

@laracroft8553 I didn't ever imagine paying this much for a gpu when I bought it. But it's not something I've come to regret, unlike tons of other purchases 😂..

@@strangedotmachine9281 I think the 8800xt could be a really good gpu. Priced aggressive and with better efficiency I might be tempted to pick up one myself. As for the 5080 I'm not sure. I did hear initially below 4090 performance so it would fall in line with sales to China. I've since heard a rumour they will make a 5090 specific for China so we can only wait and see. Again efficiency and price could be key.

You gotta be kidding if you think that AMD will have a 500$ card equal to 4080S, they already have that card, it's called 7900XTX, and it ain't 500$.

@@Dylanwill8920 No sorry yes you are right they do have some RT and AI cores just a much lower amount or less mature. But yes the impression given in most let's say arguments between AMD/Nvidia over RT is that RT is a waste of time and not of interest by the AMD owners who prefer raster performance. So the conversation is more pointing towards is that an honest opinion, and If so how do they feel about AMD putting more resources into RT if that is what AMD intend to do next gen..

@@Spratty-wb3is Yeah to that I guess I'd say its not a very honest opinion or is misleading. Surely there's those who chose to buy a radeon gpu because they simply wanted best rasterised performance for the price or more vram or similar argument, But then there's also going to be a large number of people with their AMD getting defensive about criticism and then trying to justify it and this is the convenient reason. I wonder what they'll say when RT is good enough on either and rasterisation is no longer the fallback left when you turn off RT and maybe have the extra option in some games to turn on raster for performance boost instead of RT(near future rather than distant future), probably the same vibes as the discussion between AMD and nVidia in the days before RT and AI e.g. "nVidia has Gsync" vs "AMD is bringing out freesync soon and it doesn't require expensive gsync module" . There seems to have always been fanboys either side, just swap in and swap out the reasons they throw at eachother. I think the main reasons they "aren't interested" is because of the limited performance relative to raster right now, and or that it doesn't look as good to them possibly because it has to be limited to actually run well enough on any gpu brand, the second one being subjective. We are in a transition between the two at the moment and so funnily enough people are divided on which is better. If or when its basically all RT games then there wont be a choice and we will find a new thing to compare and take sides on. Surely the need for the performance to run it is partly why upscalers have become such a big thing lately, gpus have gotten huge and have tens of thousands of cuda cores or shaders but i guess progress is not fast enough towards RT purely on hardware growth alone so now we have the workaround of compromising on base render resolution to help get the power for needed for RT it seems. Sorry gone on a bit of a tangent here thinking outloud but I guess what im saying is there'll always be something to complain about or compare and comparison is the thief of joy, and however we look at it and however much you paid for green or red or blue you're still getting to play games with epic performance compared to ten years ago. Theres a saying in the MTB community, "just run what ya brung" have fun playing your games how you want.

@@Dylanwill8920 Dude it was a good read and I agree with what your saying. I completely agree that RT is rubbished on performance. If RT had no performance cost I'm sure everybody is running RT. And yeah when we get to the point RT performs the same between all brands, we will inevitably move on to a new argument 😂

To be fair aswell, the only reason we're prone to arguing is cos we're enthusiasts or passionate. You know who's not arguing about RT Vs raster or anything GPU related, my partner she's more likely to argue whether your bookshelf should be organised alphabetically or by colour, but then she's a bookthusiast. So it's all good fun.😂

@@frogboyx1Gaming Yeah man it's a nice build. The AMD build is pretty sweet as well, did you check that out? It's got more RGB, go faster 😂

@@RJTHEGAME Yeah I agree! In the long run AMD making RT a slightly higher priority is gonna be better for them in the long run as it could sway Nvidia users over...

@@Spratty-wb3is defo

Also one thing that's often not mentioned is that AMD actually made some very nice ray tracing gains with RX 7000 GPU's. In my own comparisons for example a 7900XTX is very comparable to my 3080Ti with ray tracing enabled. Thats around an RTX 4070 Super level of ray tracing. RTX 4000 would of course have more of an advantage with multiple types or RT effects and with path tracing, especially if shader execution reordering is used which is an RTX 4000 exclusive architecture feature games libe Cyberpunk/AW2 and I think Wukong and a few others support (Portal RTX)

@TerraWare I completely agree dude! I'm personally looking forward to it. I'm actually really looking forward to Battlmage at the moment more than anything else. More than anything, just to see how far Intel can go in the second generation..

@@TerraWare That's what I posted, RT was worse on the 6000 series, so really i'm expecting further improvement to RT on 8000 I don't like these rumours however about the Raster being worse than the XTX. If that's the case then I don't upgrade to a 8000 series I want a more powerful GPU if going to upgrade As always i'll be checking hardware unboxed for 3rd party benchmarks and maybe if you do some videos about it you as well 👍 I never take anything AMD or Nvidia say until I see those benchmarks

@@RJTHEGAME I stay away from rumors. There's so much misinformation even credible leakers get a lot of things wrong. The final product will be what it is anyway.

@c523jw7 I think it's supposed to be somewhere between 7900xt-7900xtx with better RT performance. I'm pretty sure they said not 4080 level so maybe 4070ti I guess yeah. I'm pretty sure it's held back until next year now..

@@Spratty-wb3is watch the same people shi# talk 4080 rt and pt ability now thunk AMD can do rt and pt. It's hilarious I'm seeing people showing 7900xt running 80fps with amd fg and amd fsr performance with the pt mod that strip's the 2nd bounce light. Showing it inside not outside in the city either lol. This is still worse than 4080 performance and quite stripped back..but it's playable..but not when the 4080.does it with the original settings. I swear all this stuff is bad until amd can do it. It's clear cope. People rationalise to make themselves feel better. It's fg all over again

That's me keeping the XTX then if they don't release a card more powerful lol I'll just keep the money I saved up for a real upgrade in the 9000 series. It would be silly from AMD if they do this

@RJTHEGAME yep. I'm not upgrading next gen. 7900xtx is gonna be a killer gpu for a very long time. 4080 rt performance is very good and pt at 1440p goes well but if you got a xtx I just wouldn't upgrade till I get more than 4080. Esp if you get less raster. That's a minus.

@@c523jw7 Yeah I think unless it's a big difference I won't be upgrading, not really confident about these new Ryzen CPUs either being better than the 7000X3Ds, already been delayed now

@@timothysullivan-pm3sl I'm glad it's not just me then 😅

@@Spratty-wb3is no no lol

Well ancient gameplay will but he's literally the only one lol

@OniiXGaming 🤣🤣🤣... I think your right about Sony. I think Intel we're pushing hard for the console contracts and probably pushed RT..

@@Spratty-wb3is exactly they have no choice.

Imagine when digital foundry do the ps5 pro vs amd comparisons and show ps5 pro pisser ​upscaling looking better and out performing the 7900xtx in rt 😂😂@OniiXGaming

Ray tracing is a tech that's in beta..I'm gonna go turn on afmf and game with Powah 😂

@c523jw7 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 Sony ditching FSR alone is crazy. They decide to invest resource instead of using a free one.

@DonovanMcNabb5 I dunno, Nvidia get their fair share of pushback and the 4080 12GB was a good example. 4070ti super is probably another as I can't imagine that ridiculous name was intended. AMD messed up big on the 7900xt-7900xtx launch price. But I wonder if they will look over their shoulder when battlemage lunch if that's priced aggressive and with a better upscaler and RT at the midrange..

With this I just ran a 1060mv and a 2600mhz clock speed. That works pretty well for me with no real performance loss and drops power down to 320-340w

@@Spratty-wb3is did you raise the power limit to 15 and fl you think that from 2400 to 2600 there is a noticeable difference in coild whine or gpu coil whine. Also how are stutters

Were you trying to overclock in this video because you said you were trying to push it far

@blocky623 I ran the undervolt to begin which was just the voltage reduction and clocks reduction. I then ran the overclock by increasing clocks and minimum clocks along with memory clocks and then a full power limit. My gpu isn't bad on choil whine so no difference..

Don't you raise the power limit no matter what even if its a undervolts

@RJTHEGAME absolutely! FSR at 4k is the best your gonna get from 4k. Plus if I have 24GB of vram available I wanna use it right? I didn't buy a GPU with this much power and 24GB of vram to play at 1440p. If I wanted to play at 1440p I'd have just gone with a 7800xt.

@@Spratty-wb3is I'm with you man all the way! I do think it's a bit weird buying an XTX to game at 1440p. Like you say underselling it but maybe some are just more concerned with over 200fps or something insane. However on Modern Warfare 3, FSR 3 at 4k on the XTX you get well over a 100 FPS so surely that's enough and then can just max out all the settings ? Even native maxing everything out with details at 4K still managing over 100 FPS That's why I got the XTX to get the most out of 4K

@Kurigo I appreciate this! I did receive a comment on another similar video I posted, and the response was pointed towards the 7800x3d possibly being the issue? Not being able to feed information fast enough to the 7900xtx?

​@@Spratty-wb3is That should not be a problem that CPU has a bigger case for video data transfer, and is also perfect for some extra fps in games. I have a different issue with my 7900xtx and 5950x so i came across your video. What i found out with Davinci resolve and OBS is the following. While recording in AV1 i got strange lag after harvesting an animal in thehunter on vorhunga taiga, so i investigated the issue with google and AI etc. nothing found. Turns out that the map vorhunga savanna is the problem because Medved Taiga, a different hunting map has zero issues and by that zero lag. Now today i was shocked that i rendered a video of station to station, also a game that causes mayor lag at times with any cpu/gpu. But in Davinci Resolve h265 encoder causes strange artifacts, while AV1 and h264 have zero issues. This is very strange. Now if i use AV1 and CQP 16 as a test to render a 4k video it causes mayor lag. This means that either the AV1 Encoder chip is stressed too much, or there is an issue with Davinci resolve. And guess what AV1 OBS 4k@60 causes also lag at CQP 16. This could still mean two things 1- The AV1 Chip is stressed and can't handle 4k@60 With CQP 16 [ translates to around 120k bitrate. 2- The AV1 software is not matured enough because it is the " new " kid on the block, this needs consideration because i could not even use AV1 a month ago with Davinci resolve. Everything considered this translates to OBS too and vice versa. I would set my base canvas in OBS to 4k@60, and record it at 2560x1440p [2k] and CQP 16/20. The tech industry promoted 4k 10 years ago and we are still not ready for it. If we where ready for 4k we don't need DLSS or FSR to upscale 1440p or lower to 4k to get decent fps in games. I feel where you are coming from, all the money and having all the trouble. Believe me that recording in 1440p and upscale by editing software to 4k is more than enough. Most people who watch youtube do it by phone and 720p monitors are still used more than 1440p and 4k. And you can't even compare 1080p to the above for it smashes the competition by user base. I believe we are the same with a desire to deliver quality and authenticity , but we have to do with what we can do. P.S a 4090 has the same issues as my 7900xtx

@Kurigo That's interesting! I might go into OBS and check that out tonight, thank you! I was recording with the CBQ set to 20 on both systems. AMD AV1 encoder. NVIDIA AV1 encoder. And the high setting for quality. 4k canvas and resolution. But the 4080 has no issue when recording this. The 7900xtx was either lagging or crashing. I've not tried Divinci as I was starting out and trying to avoid subscription. I am using just capcut at the moment and also have a problem in that with the AMD system. When I render a 10GB video on the 4080 it takes around 5 to 10 minutes to complete. The same size file on the XTX takes around 2 hours. Again this is all using the same settings as basically I'm trying to use comparison so trying to keep all my recording and rendering also the same.

@@Spratty-wb3is Interesting, seems that the software lacks support for the AMD card. Davinci Resolve is free by the way, it might look overwhelming but its really simple. There is a paid version, but the Free version also supports GPU Decoding and Encoding for fast rendering. In the past this was not the case. I avoid subscription models like the plague, if you need good foto software buy Affinity Photo and if you need Affinity Designer. Buy once keep forever.

@Kurigo Oh really? In that case I might download and check out Divinci. I spoke to a few people using premier pro and that appears to render quick with AMD hardware but that appears subscription so I ignored it..

@c523jw7 xess is an option yeah but it's not always the best. I actually wonder if Intel sales don't go well with battlemage they decide to pull xess as being available for AMD users also. I mean if I was loosing sales to AMD and they were all using my upscaler I would 🤣.. I mean realistically you have a ton of options now anyway so you can make anything work!,

@Spratty-wb3is that would be annoying for amd users. From a selling your product standpoint I would too. I got to really check out fsr 3.1 still haven't turned it on since launch. But I had a 2.1 experience recently. I turned it on in cyberpunk and at first looking at a wall I was like fsr is so close..then I looked at an npc 🤣. I stand by this fsr quality looks worse than flss performance at 4k on the old fsr ( it absolutely hurts that I have dlss 3.7.1 modded in). I'll have a look in ghost of tsushima. I'm actually surprised Froggy gave the nvidia cards the upper hand at 4k which I agree with but very surprised.. and I do agree the xtx is a great 4k card it has the raster power behind it. It's only limit is when you go a game that's so taxing with rt and then you got to use upscalers.

@c523jw7 I can see why he said it as at 4k there's more reliance on upscalers and dlss obviously has that advantage. But I'd still take 4k over 1440p and just turn down settings or live with FSR personally. At 4k it's really not that bad. Doesn't seem right having a 400w 24GB gpu to play 1440p does it? Might as well save 500 and just buy a 7800xt..

@Spratty-wb3is interesting at like for like size your saying 4k dialled down looks better than 1440p maxxed..what's the performance like comparing both..that would be really interesting. Yeah xtx at 1440p, might as well stick to the 7800xt..it pains me to say that cus I don't like giving amd fanboys anything lol. Dwayneda where you at lol

@@OniiXGaming 3840x1620 39" or 34"?

@@Spratty-wb3is 38" 3840 1600p LG ultragear 165hz

@OniiXGaming probably about the same density as my 34" 3440x1440?

@@Spratty-wb3is yes, i believe is 111 ppi

@DonovanMcNabb5 there's only 2 monitors available and not widely available with DP 2.1. Pretty much every monitor and all the new 4k 240hz monitors I'm looking at have a DP 1.4 connection. Doesn't matter if your running a DP 2.1 on your GPU when it's connecting to a 1.4 monitor as the monitor is gonna need to use DSC.. To use 10bit on my Alienware with the 7900xtx I have to drop to 120hz. If I select 165hz it reverts to 8bit.

@@DonovanMcNabb5 I've had zero issues with mine set at 240Hz - looks better than ever 😊

@@Spratty-wb3is oh I'll need to check what mines is set to at 240 I'm sure it's 10bit..

@@Spratty-wb3is i HAD a lg nanoIPS 27gp950 and the samsung g7 4k 28, and both of them did not play nice with the 4080. Looking at them with my actual eyes Im able to notice enough color wash for me to just say no to Nvidia as my personal choice. I sold my 4080FE, I have another 4080 that I'm flipping (got it for $700). Im sure its partly due to bitrate, but i think it's just something weird with NVidia gpus.

@DonovanMcNabb5 Yeah I guess I just got lucky with the monitors I've owned cause certainly not anything I've noticed..

@DonovanMcNabb5 no i'll be going for 32" 4k oled. But not until they come down in price 😬

Is too small. I think 32" is the sweet spot for 4K and 27" for 1440p.

@FanaPants 😂 thanks man! Na I've never really used Discord. I'll have to ask my 6yr old son how to use it 🤣

You think that looked good??? I'm guessing if your watching on a small screen and the fact the image is extremely dark you might think that? Have you tried running this yourself at FSR ultra performance?

@@Spratty-wb3is LOL i know its not good, but i know how it looks on lesser cards, 7900xtx looks great in comparison.

@DonovanMcNabb5 ah ok, yeah absolutely!