Seasons Prove God!
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2023
- David Rives is back at it again to randomly select anything in existence and claim it's proof of God.
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Ah yes, another version of "how come my legs are exactly long enough to reach the ground"
Now you got me thinking
Or how VERY bad pilots are STILL able to fly all the way to the scene of the crash.
I just got them done! Now they go all the way up.
@@jeremykoehnlein2158
You mean all the way down. 😂
This is rather as if you imagine a puddle waking up one morning and thinking, 'This is an interesting world I find myself in - an interesting hole I find myself in - fits me rather neatly, doesn't it? In fact it fits me staggeringly well, must have been made to have me in it!' This is such a powerful idea that as the sun rises in the sky and the air heats up and as, gradually, the puddle gets smaller and smaller, frantically hanging on to the notion that everything's going to be alright, because this world was meant to have him in it, was built to have him in it; so the moment he disappears catches him rather by surprise. I think this may be something we need to be on the watch out for.”
― Douglas Adams, The Salmon of Doubt
FABULOUS!
Can we talk about how much of this guys argument is literally the puddle analogy??? "This place we live in seems to fit us so very well so it must be made specifically for us!"
Not to mention "if you take a human from Earth and plop them on Mercury, they'd die!" But alas, he'd probably cite that as proof that God made Mercury inhospitable on purpose.
His ignorance is quite impressive
Not heard of it being called the puddle analogy but the phrase immediately made sense to me. It's clear this is someone who has absolutely no understanding of how evolution works but then, he is a creationist.
@@martinconnelly1473 The "anthropic principle" article on simple wikipedia contains a bit on Douglas Adams' speech at Digital Biota 1998 in Cambridge UK.
That guy seems to be missing how much of the planet doesn't experience seasons.
Exactly my thought. Guy probably never left his hometown
He should go to Northern Canada or Saudi Arabia to experience a year round mono season weather for a change.
I mean look at Florida, all we get is summer and summer but a little hotter
@@Oxygen1004 Then why do we hear about the citrus crop freezes every now and then during the winter?
@@DacLMK Oddly, I had the same thought. However I was thinking down the lines of Utqiagvik, Alaska or Quito, Ecuador.
Colonising the sea floor is more difficult than it sounds. In space the pressure difference is -1 atmosphere but on the sea floor it's up to +1000 atmospheres which is much harder to deal with engineering wise. And don't forget the bends.
Well, then we won't go to the "deepest trenches" for the 1,100 atm feat, there is plenty of space to favour before them. ("At the average ocean depth (3,800 meters), pressure on the sea floor is [about] 380 [atm]" -- sure it's still quite high, but at least it's more manageable than 1,000+.) And really, we don't even have to go as far as the "average depth," we could rather stay in more coastal areas, those would be easiest to start with, tho i don't expect there'll be any real push towards any such colonization. 🤷♂
The "argument" he raises is basically the sentient puddle of water amazed at how well he fits right in the pothole he finds himself in.
My thoughts exactly. A planet that wasn't able to create life wouldn't be observed. We are looking at how the earth fits us so well, but we couldn't observe a planet that couldn't fit us. We wouldn't have evolved on it.
Wouldn't the seasons be better evidence for Greek goddess Persephone than God Yahweh? According to the myth, the reason why we have seasons is because Persephone spends half of the year in the underworld with her husband Hades; the time she spends in the underworld results in fall and winter, while her time spent out results in spring and summer.
And it's Demeter that causes the autumn and winter due to her rage at finding out that Zeus and Hades had conspired to steal Persephone.
@@zecuse Wait, i thought it is Demeter being sad and angry about Persephone missing....
@@aureliodeprimus8018 Depending on the myth, yes. Greek myths aren't always totally consistent. In the one I'm familiar with, Demeter gets really angry after finding out about the conspiracy and she secluded herself away from Olympus which caused the land to wither. From Theoi Project:
"Demeter wandered about in search of her daughter for nine days, without taking any nectar or ambrosia, and without bathing. On the tenth she met Hecate, who told her that she had heard the cries of Persephone, but did not know who had carried her off. Both then hastened to Helios, who revealed to them that Pluto had been the ravisher, and with the consent of Zeus. Demeter in her anger at this news avoided Olympus, and dwelt upon earth among men, conferring presents and blessings wherever she was kindly received, and severely punishing those who repulsed her or did not receive her gifts with proper reverence. In this manner she came to Celeus at Eleusis. As the goddess still continued in her anger, and produced famine on the earth by not allowing the fields to produce any fruit, Zeus, anxious that the race of mortals should not become extinct, sent Iris to induce Demeter to return to Olympus. But in vain.
At length Zeus sent out all the gods of Olympus to conciliate her by entreaties and presents; but she vowed not to return to Olympus, nor to restore the fertility of the earth, till she had seen her daughter again. Zeus accordingly sent Hermes into Erebus to fetch back Persephone. Aïdoneus consented, indeed, to Persephone returning, but gave her a part of a pomegranate to eat, in order that she might not always remain with Demeter. Hermes then took her in Pluto's chariot to Eleusis to her mother, to whom, after a hearty welcome, she related her fate. At Eleusis both were joined by Hecate, who henceforth remained the attendant and companion of Persephone. Zeus now sent Rhea to persuade Demeter to return to Olympus, and also granted that Persephone should spend only a part of the year (i. e. the winter) in subterraneous darkness, and that during the rest of the year she should remain with her mother."
@@aureliodeprimus8018Yep, Demeter was the one who brought about spring, not Persephone.
Because then the seasons would be the same all over the Earth not just in the Northern Hemisphere?
Funny how he talks about seasons as they are in North American, and not about the seasons in the Middle East where he believes god started life.
I thought exactly the same when I saw the video
Definitely a parochial mindset regarding seasons.
just a nitpick but
it's not "tilted on its axis"
its axis is tilted.
Well, if you want to get that fussy about it, you really need to mention that the axis is tilted with respect to its orbital plane.
Using science to prove magic... a classic.
God created the universe.
@@SuperNovaHeights_ok buddy
@@ivettrivera5306 I hope u see the light before it’s too late
@@SuperNovaHeights_ too late for what? Too late for my brain to degrade by becoming Christian, probably?
@@ivettrivera5306 too late before you die and end up in hell for eternity. That’s what happens to people who die without Christ in there lives. Have faith in Jesus Christ and repent from your sins and you will spend eternity in paradise
Seasons, rocks, math, empathy, flowers, crocodiles... These are the latest "god exists" arguments I've heard.. and the popular "bc bible is the word of god =god exists".. 😂
"The human body is made up of 40 trillion cells that all talk to each other."
This is latest "proof" for god that I've come across. Big numbers and scarce odds seem to be a common theme. I actually had one young earth creationist say to me, "And don't give me any of that 'god of gaps' crap." It's completely laughable. They already know that there's a giant hole in the "god exists" argument and apologists and YEC'ers think that by acknowledging it up front, the argument is somehow moot. I mean, it's like someone on trial for murder, and the defending attorney's opening statement is, "And don't give me any of that 'your client is guilty of murder crap.' "
"bc bible is the word of god =god exists" is an argument that I can't stop laughing at when a religious person says it. So I always counter it with "Harry Potter exists because he has a book written about him. And if you deny his existence, you're a sinner for suggesting that Harry Potter doesn't exist. It's clearly written in the book about Harry Potter."
The best one I've seen is the "How can we have sunrises if there is no god?"
Same hog wash since the 70s ... no wonder they whine because scientific understanding changes from time to time.
When they say "Math" is proof God exists I like tie argue they must be heathens because it's actually "Maths" as it's short for Mathematics 😜...
I want to write 'low hanging fruit' but alas, there is no apologetic I've heard that even has a barely coherent argument for god.
7:10 and the beginning of all my allergies because God designed my oh so perfect immune system to overreact to nothing.
That guy looks so much like a preacher his fate was unfortunately sealed from birth.
To take the human invention of clothes as proof of god is quite a leap of faith.
Is this guy aware that some parts of the world don't have the classic 4 seasons at all, just Wet and Dry seasons?
Mars actually has seasons very similar to Earth's, its axial tilt is about the same as ours and it's even technically in the sun's habitable zone. If only Mars had a slightly thicker atmosphere and a magnetic field it would probably be pretty nice
Actually the theory is millions/billions of years ago Mars and Venus were probably a lot like what Earth is today.
I like how the creationist mindset is so simplistic that they can't even imagine how large the universe is. Or how there are more stars than any one person would ever be able to count. Each one with potential planets around them. And yet they can't imagine that a handful of those planets could support life. And if the conditions to create life are rare enough, it would seem as if the world was created specifically for life. But just because something seems a certain way doesn't make it so
David Rives would be the type to wonder why meteorites always land in craters.
I always thought droughts and famine were gods work
Rives is a perfect example of a puddle thinking the hole it's in was designed for it... and not just because he has all the depth of a puddle.
Wouldnt a single perfectly temperate zone across all the world be a more perfect for his perfect creations as well as being simplistic.
7:20 "Seasons remind us of God's promise of resurrection from Death and Jesus walking out of the tomb."
I thought it was when Persephone walked out of the Underworld, and her mother Demeter brought forth new life in the world.
All the seasons prove is the heliocentric model of the Solar system.
What would make me think of intelligent design would be a universe with everything needed for humans to survive and thrive, and nothing more. Mosquitoes would have a clearly discernible benefit to humanity, for instance. Science and Theology would merge seamlessly.
I'm not saying that the fact that our planet, let alone the entire universe, seems indifferent to our existence, let alone our convenience, disproves design - but I feel it wrecks any suggestion that it's all about us humans.
Humans, _evolved and born into a world with a strong yearly cycle of hot and cold temperatures:_ Even Winter serves the good of humanity.
Mud puddle, _filling a slight depression in the ground:_ This landform fits me PERFECTLY!!
God has given us the internet so that professor Stick can enlighten us all.
Commenting for the almighty god, The Algorithm
All Hail to the holey Algorithm.
Amen, you must repent and believe in our Lord and saviour The algorithm!
Hail to the Super Mecha Death Goat!
Here's my 1st world problem this reminds me of: My car's AC sets the temp with a resolution of 1° and that's not enough. It should be 0.5° cause so many times I notice that it's just never perfectly comfy. Either a tiny bit too warm or a tiny bit too cold. **SIGH**
That little chuckle, signifying "I know this sounds stupid"!🙄
This might be the first time I've seen a person who was visibly smarmy while explaining his "proof" of his god's existence.
At least he isn't a flerf.
Your dedication is amazing😂😂
Here we go again
"the earth was specifically made to be inhabited" that's why most of the water is undrinkable
I love it when creations claim that things are perfect that are just objectively poorly designed. If the human body and the hospility levels of earth are the best god can do, I am thoroughly unimpressed
Thanks for the video :)
So much of the planet does t experience ‘winter’
Wow! Life evolved to live on Earth, under Earth-like conditions would have difficulty living on a different planet with different conditions?
Who'd have thought!
"Everything is the way it is because God made it that way. There, we now no longer need to study anything."
Wow, how unsatisfying would that be.
As an Australian, I can confirm that majority of Australia is not specifically made to be inhabited or even survivable.
"But, but. Earth is imperfect because adam needed eve and eve ate the fruit and the snake lost its legs and god got mad and flooded the world. Thats why earth is imperfect. And Satan because God never gets mad or does bad."
*Childhood Cancer* is the best 'proof' of god that I have seen, so far.
Nature alone just ain't THAT CRUEL, so god must have done it!
Earth isn't well designed to us, we're well designed to the Earth. It's as simple as that.
1:00 "what else could cause seasons?"
I think he's not postulating magic as the direct cause, but rather it's an example of the fine-tuning argument.
Apologists like to argue that the conditions necessary for life being rare means the Earth must have been fine-tuned for life. Had five of the planets in our system been inhabited by living things they would be arguing that the ubiquity of life proves the existence of their god.
It's been said before (by me and many others), it would be a lot stronger evidence for the existence of God if there was life in places that don't have the conditions necessary to support it.
If we found life as we know it on the moon, that would be impressive.
2:20 This argument can be broken down into, “Why does God let bad things happen.” According to the Bible, the weather before the flood was just that, perfect, there was no rain, and the humidity watered the plants.
a few billion habitable planets in the milky way is an absurdly high estimate
So parts of the earth that don't experience sub freezing temperatures don't function as well?
6:33
Some of those produce extra when planted in the tropics.
So wait, the seasons are to remind us of Jesus and stuff? Were there no seasons before 2000 years ago? Was god like "yeah this won't make sense to you for another two to four thousand years, but believe me, when you get it, it's gonna be amazing"?
Or would the more likely explanation be that bit like how the plants adapted to the seasons, Christianity (and/or religions) adopted it and basically retconned the planet?
If the season were made for us to survive we would all grow thick fur in colder months
Him: the end of winter and the beginning of springs resembles the resurrections of god.
Me: the poop coming back after flushing the toilet resembles way better the resurrections of god. CHANGE MY MIND!
Ewwww.
But also 😆
Famines, earthquakes, floods, pole weather, completely perfect...
CHECKMATE ATHIOTARDS!!!
I challenge David to look at bacteria, parasites, and viruses that make us ill, the numerous animals that can kill us, and the many places on Earth that are hostile to human life, and claim this is a perfect world created for us by god.
Maybe David can visit a malaria ward in Africa, see dying children and proudly declare 'yes, god created malaria for our benefit!'
"Imagine if you lived on Mercury"
Imagine if you lived in the middle of a sea of molten sulfur. Oh you wouldn't live there because nothing can live there. That's how that works.
And let's play a hypothetical
Life found a way to live on mercury and became sentient enough like us. Would they question how a planet like venus or earth with its thick atmosphere and say. Oi Life can't live there like here they have all that poisonous air
A planet that wasn't capable of producing life wouldn't be observed
Him and Ken Hamm are examples of intelligent design!😊😊😊
But I only survive Ottawa's seasons by wearing blended fabrics.
Damn, sure is good nobody lives on the equator. Could you imagine trying to survive in a place without seasons!?
fox ache! What crazy mixed up "reasoning". I despair. Mr Rives, please present an argument that a five year old wouldn't see through.
So his argument is that god only made this planet?
So his all powerful god wasn't powerful enough to make the whole universe inhabitable? So instead the useless dead beat of a deity just made a tiny marble just barely bearable and called it a day?
Jesus. Because Jesus.
Damn...
That was painful😈
This is another “look at the trees” but even dumber…
7:00 Funny, because those things always remind me of our lord and savior Superman, who came down from the heavens and was raised by a poor man who was not his biological father, and then when he became an adult set himself up as a role model for the people, before he died to save us all, and then he rose from the dead.
"What purpose does winter serve?"
What a stupid pointless question. Winter doesn't NEED a "purpose". It JUST IS.
As a christian......we dont claim these folks and the flat earthers....theyre nuts lol
So... just the standard "My God is so dumb, it created a solution to a problem it created" argument
Isn't it just simpler for him to stick with the usual "evidence" of God? You know... "look trees, god".
Of course there are other planets in the habital zone, just not in our solar system. But imagine fact checking before you shove God in, why would you do that?
The irony of this video is that UA-cam is pushing Epoch Times on me as part of it!
If "god" created this perfect planet just for us the the why is it that evolution happened, wouldn't "god" of just done things fully evolved.
I love how these idiots keep getting the order of events reversed (at this point, I'm assuming they're doing it on purpose) and then assuming their incorrect order of events is evidence for their claims.
The planet was here first, *then* life developed, *then* we came along.
Not everywhere even has the traditional four seasons. I guess God just didn't make the tropics or the poles. Hell, I live in California, and my area basically has Summer (spring), Hotter Summer (summer), Summer Again (fall), and a combined Foggy Fall-Spring (winter). We get cherry blossoms blooming in late January. It's hot enough to go swimming outside at least 9 months of the year, and Hotter Summer is like 6 months long. Everything else is like a month or two.
Jesus radit, sed solum crura!!
The whole, "With seasons we know what to predict" is such simplistic lunacy.
Just try to tell that to the small towns in the midwest who are trying to budget their sand/salt needs for road maintenance during the winter. Good luck on that. They play the averages, but go from having way too much to not near enough, depending on the year.
And spring is predictable? Tell that to the farmers who have to replant their fields after the late flooding. They WISH it were predictable. Springtime is anything but. And then when the corn is planted and growing, along comes the hailstorm to wipe it all out.
You have early winters, late winters, cold summers, dry, hot summers, it's all over the place. To put a value judgement on that and call it "perfect" renders the concept meaningless.
Looking around at random things and saying “God done it” is literally all religions do.
God, heaven and hell are very real. Unfortunately for a lot of people they won’t realise it until it’s too late.
Good video.
Isn't it strange that we evolved to live in the environment which we evolved in? What a strange mystery.
If God created David, it must have been while under influence.....
How to prove god?
Pick a natural phenomenon and slap God on it as the ultimate cause
It's funny he likens Jesus to the seasons but when people tell a believer their Jesus god concept is just a seasonal spring god of rebirth that resurrect at spring based on all the previous spring gods being Reborn at the start of the year, like the pre hewbrew goddess Inanah, they get pissed and self-righteous about how Jesus supposedly is not an re-imagining of the spring gods of old, i.e not a god dying and rebirthing every start and end of each year. 🤷♂️
For every solution God would have come up with, he'd also have created the problem.
eww, fahrenheit
And not even marked as such.
You know this guy doesn't know any other country besides 'Murica
It's refreshing to me to see a guy like this actually accept some basic science like the existence of planets and what we know about their conditions and what causes the seasons (axial tilt). I've been immersed in flat earther nonsense for too long
Considering most of the planet is covered in water if "god" did make it for people why aren't we living under water
Mars has seasons. I don't know why Dave didn't mention it.
Where I live we only have 3 seasons. Hurricane season, which is really hot. Tourist season, which is slightly less hot. But still pretty hot. And about 2 weeks of Autumn. Which doesn't happen all at once. Just a day of it here and another day of it there at no set timing. People die here from heat exposure. Local municipalities set up air conditioned buildings for the sick and elderly to spend time in so they don't expire. Apparently, God only designed the Earth to be habitable in a very narrow zone where those 4 magical seasons actually occur.
Well then I've got to give him credit This is an argument that I've never heard before 👍
I would argue that intelligent design does not mean perfect. We are intelligent and fk up all the time. However, GOD is supposed to be without flaw not just “intelligent”
Clearly seasons prove Persephone and her pomegranate-signed contract with Hades exist.
(Sadly, this is a much more cogent argument than the guy in the video, as this is at least _about_ seasons...)
I live on the equator, what do you mean, season ??
4:51 Seventy quintillion, not "quintrillion".
You said that there could be billions of habitable planets within our Milky Way galaxy, but the astrophysicist Dr. Becky made a UA-cam video estimating that there’s probably only about 100,000 habitable planets in the entire universe. So life in the universe is much rarer than you think, and that explains why we still haven’t found any habitable planets yet.
But of course! And it's divine wisdom that the legs of animals are JUST long enough to reach the ground! It must have been designed, it's so obvious!
If there is a god, I can understand why he hides. What perfect being would want to come forward and admit that these are their people?
2:20 Why did God bother to create Mercury anyway? In fact, any of the planets? I can see why he'd make the Sun, to keep energy flowing into Earth or whatever. But basically he could have made Earth without all those other planets and it would have made no difference. I guess the same goes for the stars too. Why bother?
We know the apologist answer, of course. "He must have had his reasons. Who are we to try to know the mind of God?" they say, as they tell us how God wants us to live our lives.
Earth rotates exactly once per day... only a creator could have done that [/sarcasm]
What seasons do they have in the tropics?