3D Printed Studio Monitors (featuring Mingda Magician X)
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- Опубліковано 27 тра 2024
- Here's a "mini" attempt at a 3D printed studio monitor.
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00:00 - Introduction
00:06 - Title Sequence
00:16 - Unboxing & Assembly
00:54 - Storage Box
01:07 - Firmware Upgrade
01:20 - Features
02:07 - About the Feature Project
03:40 - Test Print
04:21 - Slicing the Feature Model
04:55 - Printing the Feature Model, Part 1
06:34 - Evaluating Part 1
07:12 - Support & Checks
07:47 - Printing the Feature Model, Part 2
08:26 - Filament Swap
08:42 - Reference Print
09:17 - Evaluating Part 2
09:45 - Processing the Print
10:30 - Assembling the Enclosure
11:08 - Testing the Passive Radiator
12:21 - About the Machine
12:58 - Back to the Reference Print
13:10 - DSP Tuning
13:25 - Final Words
13:58 - Demo - Наука та технологія
3D Print: Simple, yeah.
3D Printer: Alright, simple.
Video Editing: complex, full of content and amazingly detailed.
Thanks for the video and review!
@@HexiBase I have a feeling the stripes/banding is the heated bed using Bang-Bang and not PID for its temp.
when he was needed most, he returned
Wh40k
I was just gifted an Ender 3 S1 and this is going to be one of my first projects after I get the hint of the basics. These sounded fantastic. Great design and execution!
The production value has increased greatly since your first videos. Insane.
i miss the good old days !
back in tombston, your workshop in the backyard.
mdf enclosure tutorials.
T line theory.
Sharing your life with sophie and familly/friends.
You are the first vlogger i ever follow
i feel bad that i'll never be able to acces that content anymore because of youtube.
Anyway love you guys !
that looks like a banging heater control on the heated bed, not z wobble or any other mechanical issue.
check the temperature graph over time. the flatter the better. on banging heater control, it turns on when its below a certain threshold, and off when above. but it lags behind so it starts oscillating. PID tries to compensate for lag
give it marlin, enable PID control and it should stabilize after auto-tuning.
Agreed, I had the exact same issue and solved it with a PID tune 👌🏻
Unbelievable low end frequency response! The mids are really tight and you have once again made me a believer! You are definitely a skilled man! Bravo! 👏
New HexiBase video: 🍺🤩
'Studio Monitor' in the thumbnail: 💉🤯
I think you may have just made my week.
@@HexiBase I recently bought a pair of IK Multimedia iLoud MTM monitors as my main reference in my bedroom because they're tiny and they slap. Rear ported which I don't like but the DSP is cool.
I would love to complement these with a single-driver DIY set with the same footprint. I like the 3D-printed builds like in this video and also the CNC layer-cake builds (as in your earlier video). I don't own a printer or laser so I'd have to outsource that end of it to a local maker.
such a long wait, but worth it.
15:47 those things sound amazing!!! It really shows how important design is in a speaker. I can, but also can’t believe those small drivers are hitting those frequencies! I’m definitely going to be printing these and build them at some point! Absolutely amazing job!!!
Did you end up printing these? Speakers are sold out and discontinued sadly
Hi! Just wanted to say, i've recently switched my dremel to a nail drill, and with some mods the nail drill is just hands-down better. I've even posted a video about it, it's in russian though.
>Printing 3D from parametric modeling changes the game, puts a driver in a higher level of performance regardless of it's quality/performance & price, all your vids are super smart!
Been waiting for your videos.
@@HexiBase I actually kinda like it when the printer has... issues lol.
@@HexiBase Well that and I rather appreciate the extra dry sarcasm hahahah.
... lol .... That perfectly timed whistle .. lol ...
Im satisfied
crazy, I was just watching some of your older videos and BAM, a new one drops! glad you're back.
You sure end up with a lot of lemon 3d printers!
Such an underated channel, with a very rare production quality and information. Definitely in my top 10
They look and sound awesome!
Badass vid! Great job as always!
I just realized I’ve been following Pete for years now. From that little shed he used to make PWK boxes in(which I had plans drawn up for 4 12’s in my Sequoia) to now with his high end production value videos! Way to go!
I’ve really enjoyed your videos and attention to detail all around! Keep up the great work!
Finally a hexibase notification. I've been looking forward to it 😁
Something I've noticed in your recent videos is that they have a certain rythm to them - it's like you're applying music production skills to video production and it works so well. The best example is at 13:58: "Right, left, music, *hit play*".
Keep up your great work! 😀
nice!!!!! I always wanted a 3d print monitor project. Thanks
Thanks man I love how you explain things keep up with the cool projects
Excellent video as always sir.
You make some amazing builds!! Impressive engineering as always!
Awesome editing!!!
Most hilarious content you have done so far but also extremely infomative and didn'st stray from your roots. Thanks.
A wealth of tangible knowledge. Thank you for sharing.
Your engineering, design and video production skills are epic mate. Really enjoyed watching this vid! Speakers sounded great when listening back to your recording on my AKG K702s plugged in to a Motu M2. Cheers from Melbourne, Aus.
Excellent as usual, and well timed as I'm remodeling an outdoor shed for my new office/studio area, will look to incorporate these 😄
nice work love the detail
Wish you had the time to do more videos! i love your work and use many of your STLs! thanks for everything
Plastic not sticking to the table is a trouble for any PLA print in printers like this, and forget about ABS. You need a box case to keep the bed hot and prevent air movement cooling it down, and you need glue on the glass for better adhesion. PVA-based glue stick is one way, but there are many other possible solutions.
Funnily enough I've been running a pair of fountek fr88's in 3d printed spherical enclosures with a pair of pass radiators each for a few years now. I made a second set for my work from home desk using LaVoce Fan030's. Love the idea of 3d printed speakers enclosures. Even developed and printed a whole set of 5 speaker for a small home theatre setup. I've got a ways to go until I'm on your level with tuning though. At the moment I'm using/making the most basic of crossover networks with no notch filters.
@@HexiBase thanks for the reply. I got lucky with these little full ranges. Haven't needed a crossover on either. Though I couldn't afford the desk space to give them as optimal of air space as yours. As for my component speaker sets I tend to run 2nd order linkwitz riley. I know the normal electrical uses electronics but the music effects amaze me. Still learning the hardware side of things, my only real experience with different crossovers has been signal processors like my audison bit 10 and my mosconi 4to6. So much more to learn. Love to see your videos, I'm always waiting for the next one.
Amazing job. Congratulations. Thanks for the content.
I can’t imagine waiting that long for a box to print 😳
Your ‘hexibox’ took me only about 2.5 days to print entirely at 80% scale and 40% infill in ABS.
Side note, fits a Rockford Fosgate HE2 8” sub perfectly and it sounds better than my RF HX2 10” sub in a bug box store huge vented enclosure.
You should consider building a Voron 2.4 in 350x350x350 size for some of your large print ideas. Printing PLA you can likely print at 250mm/sec++ with results better than the Creality large format printer you have. Just an idea anyway.
Massive thanks for sharing all these designs! I think i’ll try the ‘hexibox’ full size with PETG in the near future!
Side note, that horizontal banding actually looks pretty cool on that box shape 🧐
Great build! I'm studying engineering, first year currently, and yet to pick a specialization... but from watching your videos, acoustics seems to be a cool area!
Again you’ve made an outstanding sounding project Peter. Are you going to publish these stl files for us to experience as well? Please.
Hear, hear! The .STL's and used parts would be awesome, these scream out to be replicated!
For glass beds i recommend 3DLac
you don't need high temperatures on the bed so you don't get "elephants foot" bulging etc and everything sticks really well
Another incredible video!
I've stopped working with audio almost 2 decades ago, but since I discovered your channel, and considering that now I have a 3d printer, I want to mess with it again. So much to learn, specially about digital audio treatment which I know basically nothing, or almost nothing. Any recommendations on where I should start looking to learn? Have a nice day!
Look the minidsp 2x4hd or adau 1701 wondom dev boards.
@@ponakka I love my minidsp. Helped my truck's system sound great.
The amount of Base produce is impressive.
Lead screw doesn't need to wobble or be visibly bent to eye to be still bent. Most of the lead screws on printers are always bit bent, no company sells 100% fault free lead screws. You can how ever fix it mostly by adding connectors on lead screws that have ball bearings that negate some of the wobble
Ideal use with bmr full range drivers, more bang for the buck. Coat inner with cheap coating rubber or silicone.
Monitors in a half shell...Hexi power
So amazing !
Good work ! :)
Just got this printer and it prints like a beast! For 3 days, then it died. One thing I have to give to Mingda: an extremely responsive customer service. From the time I reached out to them,to the point they diagnosed the issue (failed PSU), to them asking for my shipping details, all-in-all, maybe 4 hours. At most. On the sidenote, printer handles overhangs up to 80 degrees, you just need to tune your temps for your filament. Cooling is good enough. Top tip: re-level your bed, then go to Cura and in machine settings, go to start gcode box and enter: M420 S1, right after the G28. For some reason, probably the omission, the default profile doesn't use the pre-levelled mesh. This fixes the issue. You'll only have to baby step the first print, very slighly, one you save, you really won't have to do it.
Fantastic video as always! Will you be uploading the STL for these? I'm keen to print them!
I would take manual bed level knobs any darn day of the week.
14:21 - That's some bass depth right there!
That banding issues might be a result of the bed heating. The firmware may be set to use bang-bang heating instead of PID. Bang-bang is pretty crude and results in big platform temp swings, which manifests itself as vertical banding on the print as the bed expands and co tracts. The only reason I say this over lead screw wobble is the frequency of the banding seems to change near the top of each print, and lead screw wobble shouldn’t change like that.
Build plate is probably flexing up and down within heating threshold temps. CNC kitchen did a great video on that
Nice man, if you drop that design at any point I will wanna make them to pair with the TB 3in sub enclosure I made.
One very smart guy right here keep the great work bud🚗🔊🎶
Hi, dear Pete. Thanks for your job.
From the video we can see there are some layer shifts in the model, it is mainly due to the Z axes need to be adjusted.
During the shipping, the Z axes will be pressed for a long time. It will affect the axises' accuracy.
Here are some suggestions that will be helpful.
1. Please kindly check the Z axes rob whether they are bent or not.
2. If the Z-axis robs are straight please kindly add the gasket on the X-axis to decrease the shaking during printing.
About the first layer cannot stick on the heating bed well, it seems the first layer is very thin, please kindly increase the baby step when making the first layer printing. It will be helpful. Baby step settings can be saved, no need to reset every time
And as you said in the video, the MINGDA Magician X in your hand is the demo machine, considering the influence of long-time shipment, we have strengthened the fixation of the Z-axis on our following batch order since July.
Hope our suggestions will be helpful for you. Thanks
Yoo I checked just today if you had made another of these 3d print videos nice!
They look great ,, I actually like the ribbed effect , but understand its annoying if its not actually planned .
Good video montage and content, as always!
If I can help, I think that the issue with bed-leveling was related to CURA that send a G28 code before any print. This code just reset all auto-leveling mesh stored in the printer.
Try adding G29 after G28 in the cura printer settings, it should do the trick!
Add enough rounding to the top inside and not (much) bridging needed eather.
This is awesome!
PS
To make the test more inclusive, played a song by Erra, Vanish Canvas
(Thinking it may be louder)
It also peaked at 100db
Noyyyissss!
Your process is Fantastic!
M
Those are super cool. It always impresses me how much bass extension you can get out of so little. In terms of drivers, vents, and box volume.
Also, I listened with my Samson sr850s through my phone, and the soundstaging by those seemed really impressive to me
I still miss those Tombstone videos, I got no affiliation to Tombstone and no idea why I should watch but was enjoyable, to see life through someone else eye's for the first time being inthe other side of the planet.
I love Hatchbox PLA. It just simply prints hassle free and looks great!!!
My wife has the same nail drill / dremel...I was thinking it would be perfect for my hobbies lol. Also, Glad your back! I love watching these videos!
you could totally print this in one piece! Print it upside-down, turn off supports, and use bridging! It'd be a little ballsy though
I skip the 3D printer content and stay for the audio component. Thanks for adding chapters to make it easier!
Ooof. Thump. Love them 👍
@@HexiBase Sound amazing through my Skullcandy Crushers. Amazing that such a small speaker packs a large punch. Definitely not impressed by this printer. There seems to be a new generation that don’t quite deliver. I’m still happy using my old Cr10 s. I’ve fitted auto level and a few other bits and it has never let me down.
I had a similar banding issue on my first printer. It ended up being the PID tuning on the nozzle temp. It was oscillating enough that it had similar banding.
I watched this video via bluetooth on my FiiO k5 with tin t2 IEMs.
Took me a minute to realize which is which. The one on the left is the messed up print. It's bass response is stronger, but it sounds like it is missing some highs in turn.
Slightly loosening the the nuts/screws on lead screw nuts should help. It will allow for a little movement in the leadscrew, so the wobble of the screw isn't directly translated into the print.
just rewatched and listened on my symphony nrgx headset
Oky so I always had someone doing my sound and got tired cause its always the same thing bigger better but now I stumbled on your channel and I only know the basic your videos are very useful I got myself bench watching your videos..
First, wow, the tuning response is great!
?? Passive radiator screw. The nipple? Will it eventually or soon chaff a nice round hole? ??
What am I listening through? First pass
Highs: RCA brand TV
Lows: Venturi V-1000R
TV sounds good for what it is; given the the idea of reference monitor characteristics.
Bass is fantastic! I'm always impressed by what you do!
Second pass, coming right up, after grabbing a coffee...
QSC:
K8
KS112
KW153
KW181
My PA/Studio speakers 😃
Will edit with results
Set it up
Results:
I used your intro music as my starting point.
Mixer at 0db
Intro music measured
94db peak
Skipped to the end
Same variables.
Immediately louder.
97db
During the sign wave portion the bass was nearly punishing! Wow!
Max peak was 100db
I DO have neighbors ;)
Bottom line?
I believe those speakers would be great reference monitors in any studio!
Outstanding video!
M
I wouldn't mind seeing what your take would be on headphones.
Amazing video as always! Great review of 3D Printer, great project of Studio Monitors and awesome commentary!!! I simply love your videos!
Ps. What is that last demo loop? It's awesome and perfect for testing subwoofers! :)
@@HexiBase Awesome :D! But is there any option to get it? For personal use only of course. :)
Totally would pay money for the complete track!
The band around the hull you noticed is part of the design of the benchy. It aligns with the floor of the boat, all good printers will have it.
Incredible video. I would recommend you look at the Voron Printers. It will cut down on your print times while keeping really good quality. Its in a class of its own.
Hi, I'm always amazed of the quality of your videos, what lens and crop are you using?
And again, an amazing piece of audio kit using a full-range driver. Magic, man -- it sounds awesome! Too bad about the printer. Perhaps they will have this ironed out in the firmware, but I'd still be inclined to wait a bit.
sounds like some Massive VST in the first track... wow wow wowowowa
If I had a 3D printer I would have too many small speakers that I wouldn't know what to do with them.
I really like your production style nowdays! I've been watching since the shed days.
I'm listening with Pioneer CS-R700 and Behringer A800 tuned flat with bit more low bass and a little bit less top end to suit my liking. Bougth a RTA mic long time ago when I saw you use one on the build with the 4 MTX? subs back in the day.
Nice video ! Btw I’m wondering, is there a full version of the intro song ? If yes, I’d like to know where it is. Thanks
Fantastic audio project.
Presumably, adding cone mass to the "drone cone" (passive radiator) is the electromechanical equivalent of adding mass to the main transducer's cone - sucks more current from the amplifier, the electrical equivalent of adding a parallel capacitance load in Thiele-Small parameters?
No biggy, but the bottom end bass gain is presumably ultimately contributed by the amplifier, just like the "smile" EQ curve shown at c. 2 min mark
Great video series! Could you comment on the use of servo control in subwoofers? What does that bring to the table? How does it change the enclosure design?
Great job!! Is there a parts list/supplier suggestion? Would love to give them a try!
Great video. I love your projects. Do you ever put synthetic wool inside the enclosures?
"Yes, I just decided it's a She, now, look at this box" Hexibase. 10/10
Also check the direct drive system. check the gears for evenness when rotating.
I'd love to see you do a video about ABS vs PLA for speaker enclosures, but ABS prints that big definitely need an enclosed (and possibly heated) build volume. I have such a printer, and would be happy to supply you with some prints if you can't get an enclosed printer as a review unit
Thanks for another incredible video. We've already printed one of your tang band mini sub enclosures, super cool!
Do you have a suggestion box? Consider this my submission: do you have any interest in midbass enclosures for car audio? There's a lot of people cramming their brains trying to figure out ways to get bigger drivers in their rattling doors for good midbass, however I'd bet a nice slim enclosure with a smaller woofer would do a great job. Just a thought! Keep up the great work.
Are there other options for drivers? I can’t find the Fountech ones
Listening in a set of Sennheiser PXC 550-II's through my PC I was surprised at the low end extension of of these small drivers. They hang on the transitions down low though. Or could be a UA-cam compression issue. Other wise they sound nice and warm. A little soft on the high end, but not harsh like I was expecting.
I have Adored Every Design I’ve ever gotten from you and other family members have too! Thank you for your time and knowledge! We very much appreciate you, Pete! On a side question, can you show us (your viewers) a Spectral Decay on these speakers and maybe even offer it for the Subs? Subs are going to hold it longer of course due to mass but I can imagine that you don’t do open baffle design for Home Audio or do you!? Can your setup show that?
Great choice using Emotiva for amplification!
Also is that Foobar2000 I see on the laptop during the demo?
The Fountek FR89EX seem to be discontinued. Suggestion on a replacement?
Just came across your videos. Very nice. Do you have any links to hardware used?
Will you release the BOM and 3d files?
Pleaseeee ;)
@@gasparsantos684 as always
Great job… just wondering why you don’t add any damping material inside?
Holy shit! Look at you go! 117k subscribers. It was nice to watch one of your videos after so long. Internet nostalgia for content creators should be studied in its own representative demographic. Cheers.
Sounds great but the speakers should be towed in towards the listener (microphones). At least I'd like to hear it that way for comparison. I might drop the EQ altogether, even though the graphs make it appear to flatten the response, there's something missing in the midbass/midrange areas. Lotta bass and highs. Unless it's just a weird song / mix.