In my very humble opinion, this and the LFA are neck-and-neck for the best sounding road cars ever built. However, this engine-out requirement for service is the height of idiocy. Thankfully skilled people like you are around to keep these on the road and that engine does look like a work of art out of the car. Thanks for sharing the process!
I agree to an extent. I wonder how different the perception would be if the timing belt had a more traditional interval, like 75,000 -100,000 miles? But yes, every 3 years pulling the engine out, what were they thinking?
The seemingly ludicrous ‘engine out’ service requirement is perhaps deliberately designed that way for no other reason but to see and appreciate the beauty of a Ferrari engine 😂
Thanks man! I grew up watching all those TV shows like Horsepower TV, extreme4x4 etc, didn't matter if I owned one or not... I found it fascinating. Plus it's cool to know, at the end of the day, they're still just cars, anyone can work on them
Gorgeous video. I replaced the belt of my F355 (I had since 2010) three times in the years 2014, 2018 an 2022. It costs between 7 and 12 TEuro - depends on stuff like water pump. The belt itself allways look like new, even after four years. The rolls sometimes have a little bit of rust - of course the car is not a daily driver...
Great video to summarise the process. I have done this a few times myself and just wish to recognise and acknowledge your video as a great source of information for anyone else thinking of doing the work themselves.
I can understand why some people dread engine out in the 355, maybe I'm weird, but I actually look forward to it. Sure it's a lot of work, but it allows me to put a lot of time and care into this vehicle. Plus I'm just fascinated by it
Legendary stuff. One of the reasons i had the confidence to buy and maintain a F355. My 97 Gated Spider had been the most reliable a car can be. Nothing like a 355! Every car enthusiast should have one at some point. Thanks again for these videos showing mere mortals can handle maintaining these Supercars.
Thanks for sharing such a well documented video. The price for the parts needed to do this every 7 or so years isn't bad at all. The Hill Engineering pulleys are 350 and a waterpump rebuild kit is around the same. Anyone wanting to do this service whether by themselves or through a shop should definitely consider adding these.
Agree, it's a lot of fun. Definitely not a stressful as airplanes though. I was an airplane mechanic for a while, pretty stressful taking the first flight after you put a plane back together LOL
Amazing video on this tremendously labor-intensive job. It reminds me of why EVs have become so popular, although they don't sound remotely as good as a 355 with a Capristo exhaust.
Hi Ken, absolutely amazing series, enjoyed it very much. FYI - I would gladly watch a 2 hour video of yours if you wanted to go slower or include more detail. Thanks for the great videos.
Hey, I appreciate the kind words. Wish everyone else shared your sentiments LOL A lot of people won't watch more than the first two or three minutes of most of these.
Very cool to see someone do that at home. Though it is worth noting you needed a home garage will a good amount of space and a lift, or access to a shop that has the same. I know it's hard to quantify that because you're using it for multiple reasons/cars. What do you figure was the number of hours you put in doing the service?
There's quite a few people who have said they've done theirs without a lift, it's kind of a tricky ballet of jack stands but it can be done. If I did these for a living, I think it could be done in 20-25 hours. But I enjoy doing it, and I spend a lot of extra time trying to make it perfect, each of my engine outs averaged probably around 40 hours.
I mention the paint in video 5 in the engine out series. Anyway, I taped off the cavalino and the stripes on the plenum first and spray them vht silver. And then take them off and spray everything VHT wrinkle red amzn.to/3c1u11b followed up by a light coat of rossa barchetta (312 I think). Then go back and touche up the silver by hand. Definately tedious, but it came out amazing. BHT Red by itself is way too bright, you got a calm it down with that 312
WoW, this was awesome to see being done and talking through each of the steps.....it looks like with the right set-up someone could actually do the engine out service themselves. Is getting the engine hood back in place the only area where you needed a second set of hands?
Yeah, it is pretty much a solo job other than the engine lid. Not sure if you just watched this one or saw any of the detailed series, but the way I describe it there is it is basically a thousand little jobs LOL
Amazing Video!!! You make it look so easy. hahaha. looks like a pretty strait forward procedure once you know what your doing and have all the proper tools and such. I can't imagine how long it must have took the first time around. the F355 w Capristo is the best soundtrack ever! I've been looking at 355s, what color do they call that silver? looks amazing! and with the challenge grill.....freaking sweet. thanks again.
It's definitely important to take your time. Also since if you overlook one thing, you got to take it all back out, so I like checked everything eight times lol. My car is titanium grigio. Thanks for watching man
I cant recall on memory, but workshop vol 1, page b 85-87 says the m10x1.25 "engine brackets" should be 53nm (likely engine mounts) m10x1.25 "pad to chassis plate should be 50nm (likely the 12 subframe bolts) m16x1.5 Pad to engine bracket 98nm (likely big rear bolts) Cant find the 4 wheel wheel bolts. Just mechanics touch good-n-tight IMO
No, the many reasons against the fuel tank method are well documented on sure like fchat etc. Maybe it's my aviation background, but with critical things like the belts, I'd much rather do it the right way even if it takes a bit longer.
Extremely easy to scratch the sides of your car when removing/installing the bumper. It's just painter's tape. Check out the full detailed series of you're interested
Hi Ken. Great video as always. If it's not to much hastle, can you point me on the right direction? My shops been getting more exotics in and I want to do heavier repairs and services onthem. What software or website do you use for exotics like ferraris and lambos? Alldata and prodemand dont have this information. Thank you!
Good information Ken I was booking for a workshop manual on the F355? I have seen the testing on the F1 and the reply you gave to a viewer. I would love to acquire one if possible
Wow, what an artform it is to tear one of these apart and then rebuild it.. excellent job man! A question though - why would any car manufacturer make a car that the engine has to come out every 15k miles? Seems like such a miss. Glad that the 360 doesn't require this!
It definitely requires a lot of patience, but at the same time its enjoyable to clean things and do a lot of TLC while you are in there. No idea why the design it that way. 360 still needs the exact same belt service but you can do it from inside the car through the hatches... The 430 needs nothing! Just a 10min oil change
I've looked at these more and more....is there just not the room to do this with the engine in the car? You may need skinny arms, and climb around the top a bit, but could it be done?
Unfortunately no. Some people do them by removing the gas tank, but you literally have to either cut part of the frame or Jack the motor up about 5 in to be able to get a socket on the crank. At that point you're risking tearing your wiring harness and all your fuel power steering oil lines etc. Obviously checking the timing is the correct factory way to do this. But many people are okay with simply a belt swap (leaving the valve covers in place)
@@ExoticCarDIY Yea, I heard stories about people cutting an entry through from the cabin to do it. Considering how infrequently it's actually done, not the every 3 years we keep hearing, seems like it's worth the effort to drop the engine out and inspect everything else while you're there.
After watching the video in the first three-minute segment, I can see why the cost to remove F355 engine can be staggering. I feel most of the cost goes toward labor due to a time consuming process of the engine removal. The new parts from the factory are quite expensive as I imagine, but they cannot match the labor cost.
Short answer is yes, it's already set. At minimum, there are markers on the cams that need to line up to make sure the belt were installed on the cam cogs correctly. Long answer is you're expected to, and the manual says to check The marks on the cams are simply assembly marks, they are not precise and these engines are sensitive to being out of spec. Most these cars are now 25 plus years old and have had numerous engine outs, there's a surprise in the high chance that the timing might have been incorrectly set by a previous mechanic. My personal opinion is on the first engine out of ownership the correct timing should be established, and then any subsequent engine outs should just require a belt and pulley change only.
@@michaelkoloc-jx6kv I was an aviation mechanic for a few years, but as for the automotive world, just an enthusiast who's loves working on them. I've been working on everything since before I was old enough to drive lol. I do work for friends and family, but other than that, no, I really don't work on other people's cars.
I went back and listened to it, couldn't find what you were referring to. I said 7 years is the new generally accepted internal, much better than the 3 years ferrari initially suggested.
@@ExoticCarDIY that's tough man. Either one I feel like it's awesome and greatly increase the value. A high horse power Mercedes om606 would be really cool as well. No matter what you choose to do you'll have a 6.2 turbo for a rat rod build down the road 😂
I'll draw a parallel here, the reason that these older cars have become so popular late is because new cars are so hands off, computers do everything, you can't work on them etc. People love the 355 because you have a bond with the car, it's very mechanical, your shifting the gears, you hear everything I think that also translates over into the maintenance, it's more than just a driving experience, you also have a connection with a car physically through working on it and wrenching on it. Believe it or not, I actually loved working on the car. It was not a hassle I look forward to doing the engine out
That was a combination of genius and infuriating. Camshaft seals: genius, having to disconnect or drain all fluids and the A/C: wow that was dumb Ferrari. I could have designed it better in 5 minutes. What do brake lines have to do with anything? Why was it impossible to design the power steering such that it didn’t need to be disconnected for this service? I bet if I did that job for every idiotic step Ferrari forces you to do I could think of 5 ways it could have been done better to avoid that hassle.
Hey GM, pay attention, more than 2 valves ABOVE the cylinder, no pushrods needed. I know, it's a revolutionary concepr, but it works. Too bad it took 80 years to drag your knuckles to a new engine design. Oh wait, you didn't design it, you stole idea from Ferrari anyway. What a garbage company.
In my very humble opinion, this and the LFA are neck-and-neck for the best sounding road cars ever built. However, this engine-out requirement for service is the height of idiocy. Thankfully skilled people like you are around to keep these on the road and that engine does look like a work of art out of the car. Thanks for sharing the process!
I agree to an extent. I wonder how different the perception would be if the timing belt had a more traditional interval, like 75,000 -100,000 miles?
But yes, every 3 years pulling the engine out, what were they thinking?
do they both have 40 valves?
Which year Lfa?
@@ExoticCarDIY The official requirement of Ferrari is every four years, not three! Look in your manual N 8 top 6: "Una volta ogni 4 anni"
The seemingly ludicrous ‘engine out’ service requirement is perhaps deliberately designed that way for no other reason but to see and appreciate the beauty of a Ferrari engine 😂
This compressed version was great! Looking forward to watching the real time videos now, and I don’t even own a Ferrari!
Thanks man! I grew up watching all those TV shows like Horsepower TV, extreme4x4 etc, didn't matter if I owned one or not... I found it fascinating. Plus it's cool to know, at the end of the day, they're still just cars, anyone can work on them
I now feel like I can get a 355 and be ok with doing this myself! Thank you for sharing
Absolutely!
Gorgeous video. I replaced the belt of my F355 (I had since 2010) three times in the years 2014, 2018 an 2022. It costs between 7 and 12 TEuro - depends on stuff like water pump. The belt itself allways look like new, even after four years. The rolls sometimes have a little bit of rust - of course the car is not a daily driver...
Agree, it's a great time to just get everything done, sometimes whether it needs to or not just to stay on the safe side.
Great video to summarise the process. I have done this a few times myself and just wish to recognise and acknowledge your video as a great source of information for anyone else thinking of doing the work themselves.
I can understand why some people dread engine out in the 355, maybe I'm weird, but I actually look forward to it. Sure it's a lot of work, but it allows me to put a lot of time and care into this vehicle. Plus I'm just fascinated by it
Well done Ken. I learned a great deal when you released the full length videos. This video is very helpful. Thank you!
Legendary stuff. One of the reasons i had the confidence to buy and maintain a F355. My 97 Gated Spider had been the most reliable a car can be. Nothing like a 355! Every car enthusiast should have one at some point. Thanks again for these videos showing mere mortals can handle maintaining these Supercars.
Thanks a lot man. Hope they continue to help others!
Awesome to see highly developed skills put to good use.
Amazing skills, knowledge and confidence 👍
Thanks for sharing such a well documented video. The price for the parts needed to do this every 7 or so years isn't bad at all. The Hill Engineering pulleys are 350 and a waterpump rebuild kit is around the same. Anyone wanting to do this service whether by themselves or through a shop should definitely consider adding these.
It's a great job to team up on with a friend as well, especially first timers
The feeling you must have not only driving the Ferrari, but the Ferrari YOU fixed
Agree, it's a lot of fun. Definitely not a stressful as airplanes though. I was an airplane mechanic for a while, pretty stressful taking the first flight after you put a plane back together LOL
Wonderfull honest video.... well done. I wish you where close to me
Thanks! Hope it can help others out as well
Amazing video on this tremendously labor-intensive job. It reminds me of why EVs have become so popular, although they don't sound remotely as good as a 355 with a Capristo exhaust.
Kenny, can you do a spark plug DIY video for the E63?
Good video 👍
Hi Ken, absolutely amazing series, enjoyed it very much. FYI - I would gladly watch a 2 hour video of yours if you wanted to go slower or include more detail. Thanks for the great videos.
Hey, I appreciate the kind words. Wish everyone else shared your sentiments LOL A lot of people won't watch more than the first two or three minutes of most of these.
Very cool to see someone do that at home. Though it is worth noting you needed a home garage will a good amount of space and a lift, or access to a shop that has the same. I know it's hard to quantify that because you're using it for multiple reasons/cars.
What do you figure was the number of hours you put in doing the service?
There's quite a few people who have said they've done theirs without a lift, it's kind of a tricky ballet of jack stands but it can be done.
If I did these for a living, I think it could be done in 20-25 hours. But I enjoy doing it, and I spend a lot of extra time trying to make it perfect, each of my engine outs averaged probably around 40 hours.
Wow! Really comprehensive video. Useful for owners and for those who (like myself) hope to have a 355 some day
Great Video. What paint did you use on your plennums? and how did u paint the horseys silver to make them look so good?
I mention the paint in video 5 in the engine out series.
Anyway, I taped off the cavalino and the stripes on the plenum first and spray them vht silver. And then take them off and spray everything VHT wrinkle red amzn.to/3c1u11b followed up by a light coat of rossa barchetta (312 I think).
Then go back and touche up the silver by hand.
Definately tedious, but it came out amazing. BHT Red by itself is way too bright, you got a calm it down with that 312
Once gain just a superb service. It gets me motivated!!!!
👍
WoW, this was awesome to see being done and talking through each of the steps.....it looks like with the right set-up someone could actually do the engine out service themselves.
Is getting the engine hood back in place the only area where you needed a second set of hands?
Yeah, it is pretty much a solo job other than the engine lid.
Not sure if you just watched this one or saw any of the detailed series, but the way I describe it there is it is basically a thousand little jobs LOL
Amazing content and impressive work! Nicely done
Awesome content! Thanks for sharing ;)
Thanks for watching!
Amazing Video!!! You make it look so easy. hahaha. looks like a pretty strait forward procedure once you know what your doing and have all the proper tools and such. I can't imagine how long it must have took the first time around. the F355 w Capristo is the best soundtrack ever! I've been looking at 355s, what color do they call that silver? looks amazing! and with the challenge grill.....freaking sweet. thanks again.
It's definitely important to take your time. Also since if you overlook one thing, you got to take it all back out, so I like checked everything eight times lol.
My car is titanium grigio.
Thanks for watching man
Hi Great job! Do you have the torque settings for subframe to main frame. All 20 bolts (12, 4 & 4). Thks
I cant recall on memory, but workshop vol 1, page b 85-87 says the
m10x1.25 "engine brackets" should be 53nm (likely engine mounts)
m10x1.25 "pad to chassis plate should be 50nm (likely the 12 subframe bolts)
m16x1.5 Pad to engine bracket 98nm (likely big rear bolts)
Cant find the 4 wheel wheel bolts. Just mechanics touch good-n-tight IMO
@@ExoticCarDIY Thks
Man you car guys all seem to conglomerate in Florida!
Well done! Have you considered dropping the fuel tank to do the belts?
No, the many reasons against the fuel tank method are well documented on sure like fchat etc.
Maybe it's my aviation background, but with critical things like the belts, I'd much rather do it the right way even if it takes a bit longer.
Thats great that you perform your own services!
And I love doing it!
Awesome , well done
Thanks, I appreciate it
Very cool
I’ll stick to Shelby’s
Good on you though. Kudos
Love this video. What is this blue tape you’re using and why did you put some on the sides of the bumper?
Extremely easy to scratch the sides of your car when removing/installing the bumper.
It's just painter's tape. Check out the full detailed series of you're interested
Hi Ken. Great video as always. If it's not to much hastle, can you point me on the right direction? My shops been getting more exotics in and I want to do heavier repairs and services onthem. What software or website do you use for exotics like ferraris and lambos? Alldata and prodemand dont have this information. Thank you!
Very cool. You seem so confident it makes it look easy.
Thanks man, it definitely gets easier the 2nd time around... Very rewarding
Unreal man.
Outstanding!
Holy cow, that is amazing!
Bloody hell . 10 minutes . Is that all . My garage took hours !!
Very well done!!!
Thanks!
i have a 355 and just moved to charleston sc - any shops nearby you'd recommend?
Wish I knew of some. Ask on ferrari chat
Good information Ken I was booking for a workshop manual on the F355? I have seen the testing on the F1 and the reply you gave to a viewer. I would love to acquire one if possible
Shoot me an email mail at my yt name at gmail
So now I need a Ferrari AND a car lift lol
you are very good my friend.
Thank you very much!
Did you put it in gear before removing shift rod? I once read your supposed to, is that true?
I don't see the need to, might actually make it hard to turn the motor when seeing the timing
Thats is mental. How many times did you do that before you became this great.
A couple lol. I just love doing it I guess
Find it hard to believe Al this disassemble in 10 mins. No way.
Lol
12:46 water with the engine oil? 😂
Wow, what an artform it is to tear one of these apart and then rebuild it.. excellent job man! A question though - why would any car manufacturer make a car that the engine has to come out every 15k miles? Seems like such a miss. Glad that the 360 doesn't require this!
It definitely requires a lot of patience, but at the same time its enjoyable to clean things and do a lot of TLC while you are in there.
No idea why the design it that way. 360 still needs the exact same belt service but you can do it from inside the car through the hatches... The 430 needs nothing! Just a 10min oil change
I've looked at these more and more....is there just not the room to do this with the engine in the car?
You may need skinny arms, and climb around the top a bit, but could it be done?
Watching it more and more, with all the extra's done instead of just the belts, taking the engine out would actually be the best way.
Unfortunately no. Some people do them by removing the gas tank, but you literally have to either cut part of the frame or Jack the motor up about 5 in to be able to get a socket on the crank. At that point you're risking tearing your wiring harness and all your fuel power steering oil lines etc.
Obviously checking the timing is the correct factory way to do this. But many people are okay with simply a belt swap (leaving the valve covers in place)
@@ExoticCarDIY Yea, I heard stories about people cutting an entry through from the cabin to do it.
Considering how infrequently it's actually done, not the every 3 years we keep hearing, seems like it's worth the effort to drop the engine out and inspect everything else while you're there.
Ratarossa shows u how to w/o engine removal, it's still a bear:(
After watching the video in the first three-minute segment, I can see why the cost to remove F355 engine can be staggering. I feel most of the cost goes toward labor due to a time consuming process of the engine removal. The new parts from the factory are quite expensive as I imagine, but they cannot match the labor cost.
Correct, labor... And unfortunately, it's not a job to rush through either.
I enjoyed taking my time, making sure it was done with lots of care
How many miles has your 355 done ?
46k
You are Amazing .. Foh that’s Amazing!!!
Respect
3.55mm to TDC opportunity missed 😔
Haha, oh man, that would have been perfect LOL
🔥 job 🔥 car
Thanks Buddy
4:15 WHY??? It is on time. Right?
Short answer is yes, it's already set.
At minimum, there are markers on the cams that need to line up to make sure the belt were installed on the cam cogs correctly.
Long answer is you're expected to, and the manual says to check
The marks on the cams are simply assembly marks, they are not precise and these engines are sensitive to being out of spec. Most these cars are now 25 plus years old and have had numerous engine outs, there's a surprise in the high chance that the timing might have been incorrectly set by a previous mechanic. My personal opinion is on the first engine out of ownership the correct timing should be established, and then any subsequent engine outs should just require a belt and pulley change only.
@@ExoticCarDIY so why you are checking it again.
@@maartenrijsdijk7823 to make a video
Bring your car to ken!! Period
Haha, maybe after retirement.
Would be fun though
👌👍
Wow! Must be a great feeling to look after your baby, yourself.
I like to think I put a lot more time and Care into it than a shop that's just trying to hurry through a job to make money
One question, if I may : do you work in the racing industry, or do you work on other peoples Supercars?
@@michaelkoloc-jx6kv I was an aviation mechanic for a few years, but as for the automotive world, just an enthusiast who's loves working on them. I've been working on everything since before I was old enough to drive lol. I do work for friends and family, but other than that, no, I really don't work on other people's cars.
It’s great to see someone like yourself sharing their passions with the world. 👌
$1,500???
Bruv its 10 minutes in youtube fast forward.😂😂😂😂.doing an italian car with a wedding ring and a metal watch!u did remove the watch later on.
Good video but you kept switching between 7 years and 3 years in the end discussion.
I went back and listened to it, couldn't find what you were referring to. I said 7 years is the new generally accepted internal, much better than the 3 years ferrari initially suggested.
@@ExoticCarDIY14:47 “in the eight years of ownership I did 2, seven years apart?”
@@hughmann1908 owned the car for a little over 8 years.
Did the first engine out after 1year.... then drove for 7 years... did the 2nd engine out.
Amg, meh. Ferrari, meh. That M1009!!! Hell F'n yeah!
Still torn... Leave it at a turbo 6.2 or try a dmax or Cummins swap?
@@ExoticCarDIY that's tough man. Either one I feel like it's awesome and greatly increase the value. A high horse power Mercedes om606 would be really cool as well. No matter what you choose to do you'll have a 6.2 turbo for a rat rod build down the road 😂
dealers are $10,000 plus parts so horrible.
I'll draw a parallel here, the reason that these older cars have become so popular late is because new cars are so hands off, computers do everything, you can't work on them etc. People love the 355 because you have a bond with the car, it's very mechanical, your shifting the gears, you hear everything I think that also translates over into the maintenance, it's more than just a driving experience, you also have a connection with a car physically through working on it and wrenching on it. Believe it or not, I actually loved working on the car. It was not a hassle I look forward to doing the engine out
Extra 👍🏻💞
Thank you! Cheers!
That was a combination of genius and infuriating. Camshaft seals: genius, having to disconnect or drain all fluids and the A/C: wow that was dumb Ferrari. I could have designed it better in 5 minutes. What do brake lines have to do with anything? Why was it impossible to design the power steering such that it didn’t need to be disconnected for this service? I bet if I did that job for every idiotic step Ferrari forces you to do I could think of 5 ways it could have been done better to avoid that hassle.
The engine came out 🏳️🌈 😂 😅
Hey GM, pay attention, more than 2 valves ABOVE the cylinder, no pushrods needed. I know, it's a revolutionary concepr, but it works. Too bad it took 80 years to drag your knuckles to a new engine design. Oh wait, you didn't design it, you stole idea from Ferrari anyway. What a garbage company.