How To Check Oil In A Lamborghini And Why It's Not As Simple As You Might Think
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- Опубліковано 20 бер 2021
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In today's little video, we are back at AV Engineering and seeing how you check the oil on a dry sump car, like my Lamborghini - and why it is so important to get this right!
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Will they show me how to check the oil in a Lamborghini?
Never owned a car with a dry sump but now I know should I ever do so. Learn something new everyday.
I had a aprilia motorbike with that system. I found it best to get into the habit of checking the oil before putting the bike away after use, whilst hot, so you know it's ready for next time, rather than faffing about before a ride wondering if its warm enough to check etc.
Aldous needs a UA-cam channel 👍
Yup...top bloke and can narrate as well as experienced. Would also be able to do different cars like Ian Tyrell
"Sponsored by Skillshare".
Now you really made it as a youtuber.
I know right!
Never do raid shadow legends
I thought NordVPN was the indicator
I turned shadow legends down
Top man. They are the worst micro transaction pos in mobile gaming.
A particularly sad case, given the correct procedure is actually printed in the engine bay.
Wouldn't the world be a better place if people actually read the instructions 😁👍
@@adrianflower3230 there their now, but maybe they werent before
Hurry up summer so that coat can be retired 😂
So as to display his very loud shirts😂
Mmmmm.....but as there are more opportunities with interesting cars, the shirt exuberance will go down.
Thanks for the advice, I checked my Lambo and Ferrari collection last night......... then I woke up 😅
Great advice! A lot of people don't know this and I bet many an issue is caused by overfilling!
He's a natural on camera, more Aldous please
Your lambo videos seem to be doing really well and I can imagine they're helping the Channel grow!
Interesting!
Enjoying these in depth videos. Looking forward to seeing how the improvements and fixes progress
More of this guy. Quality content.
Excellent video, never knew the difference or the different ways to check the oil
Well I've learnt something new today great video 📹👍
A very good review. I had a 1987 Honda XBR 500 single cylinder motorcycle with a dry sump and you had to run the bike at idling speed for 3 minutes. You then switch the engine off unscrew the dip stick and remove. Then put the dipstick back without screwing it down then take out to check the oil level. It was a bit of a faff, but you soon got used to it.
Many many years ago a friends dad took his new Astra 1.8 in for its first dealer service. When he got it back it was going through oil like mad. Took it back to the dealer they couldn’t find an issue. Give it him back same thing, repeat. Eventually engine goes bang and they need to replace it. Only at this point did the issue come to light. During the first service the dip stick had been mistakenly swapped for one off a car with a shorter one. So they had just been over filling it again and again. Simple mistake, big cost.
Oh that’s criminal 😳
Good info for a lot of people.
Jay, good stuff. Cheers.
Wow, didn’t realise this and have an Aston Martin Vantage so i am so pleased i heard about this. Thanks Jay.
Great advice!
I did not know this.
Thanx.
Well you learn something new every day interesting process 👌
Very informative I like this guy, J can we have an S2000 update missing the Honda👍
Very informative and every day a skool day.
Very interesting, now I know!
good to know that sort of bits :)
Many people don’t know how to check oil in a engine regardless if it is dry sump or not as they don’t generally look at the manual they comes with the car, they simply rely on the service intervals. Thanks for covering as I am sure it will help somebody making an expensive mistake
I have a friend who used that policy except he didn't bother with the servicing either. I got a phone call from him to pick him and his family up from the side of the road, after 2 years of owning the car and using it daily with the bonnet never being lifted the engine was junk.
@@theSTUNTHAMSTER expensive lesson!
Hello Jay,
Have you ever driven a noble m12. Would make a good video
What about if you're dangerously low on oil, you should still start it to check?
That was interesting, never knew that about dry sumps, why would i? Closest I've been to a supercar is Gran Turismo on my Playstation.
Brilliant advice, if I am lucky 🍀 enough to get a car with ‘dry sump’.
Hmm, makes sense, basic gravity and how often do exotic cars sit
So.. what problems present themselves when you overfill?
Fuckery. Hydro lock?
Those tool trolleys near that Aston unsettled me 😅
Indeed, they could get damaged, parked like that. Pity, they're nice looking trollies.
@@dellhell8842 if it were mine and I came to pick it up it’d be getting a thorough examination before I left
@@samthoma2719 Indeed.
Very right indeed.
Agreed 😳
I had a evo 3 gsr in 2005 and put my car into a Mitsubishi dealership for a cambelt change only but they decided to add another 5l of oil.
You should give skillshare a go on hairdressing, give yourself a trim.
I was thinking shirt-making, but you do have a point.
@@acchaladka Yeah maybe there's a crossover market there. Use some of his hair as decoration on a shirt. I've seen him wear worse.
No non return valve on the sump pump? Seams to be an assured way to get a good turn over in replacement engines.
Nice Lotus shirt!
Takes a little getting used too but my Aston has a dry sump and if the engine is hot you burn your fingers on the dip stick
But you have not explained why you get an engine failure when overfilling.
What and why will be damaged actually?
What MrY said and add in that overfilling can cause the cyliders to fill with oil, then when the engine is started the oil does not compress which can then bend the conrods and valves.
In the case of turbo'd engines it can knock out the seals easily and your car will resemble a 95 diesel Astra van smoke emmissions wise meanwhile the turbo is starved of oil so it then destroys itself too.
@@8draco8 The amount of oil has nothing to do with oil pressure.
Unless you have to little oil and the pump sucks air, of course.
@@1968spikey When oil runs from the dry sump tank into the engine, it runs into the dry sump pan at the bottom of the engine. Not into the cylinders.
Depends on how the oil gets circulated round a system. Some have oil jets, some use splash lubrication. Usually you get cavitation, so the oil turns to foam, then the oil pump can't pump foam. We get it on compressors sometimes
@@RallyeRacin9 YES I KNOW.
Hence the scavenging gears.
I didn't say it did.
What I did say is that overfilling an engine can cause the cylinders to fill with oil.
The only thing I don't like about dry sumps is how do you know if you've got oil in the system in the first place, if it's drained into the engine sump? I got caught out with one of my motorcycles that has a dry sump. I did an oil change then proceeded to fill the oil tank with the specified amount when it starts overflowing all over the garage floor after getting only half the amount in. Should've read the handbook, because in there it states to pour 2 litres in, run the engine for a minute (to pull some oil through & thus lower the level in the tank to make room for some more) shut the engine off, then pour the remaining amount in. Catches loads of owners out that one lol.
How do you test the oil level of a dry-sump car if there's no oil in it when you suspect that there's no oil in it ?
If in doubt you drain and refill it. Cheaper than a new engine.
check the levels when you finish using the car and NOT when you go to use it.
Unless there's a huge puddle of oil on the floor it won't have evaporated.
@@davidjb3671
Makes sense.
From the video, they didn't seem to cover what you should do if you have no idea how much oil is in it.
Running the engine to get the oil hot to check it could trash your engine.
Checking the oil on a BMW F650 motorcycle was also some procedure. If I remember right, that has a dry-sump too,..
Was my mum's motorcycle,.. I never really understood why there was a procedure to check the oil level with that one,.. (its been gone for 10 years now or so.)
It does indeed. A local bike shop serviced my F650 and overfilled it, resulting in the airbox and air filter being soaked in oil...
Noted
💛 Lotus 💚 Nice T-Shirt, I hope we‘ll see some more Lotus content from you soon.
He may drive a Lambo, but the shirt shows where his heart really is.
Stuff you don't get from other reviewers
Porsche 996 Turbos has a gauge on the dash - it won’t read oil level until engine is hot and car is stopped
Then runs oil level check and displays if ok or not by a series of bars
One tip on forums is not to fill to the top bar eg one bar below maximum - otherwise you won’t know if overfilled or not eg overfilled will just show all bars full not overfilled!
The dip stick doubles as a lethal weapon.
So you say that everything could be corrected by one electric scavenge pump?
My 4200 is like the 360, you check the oil when the engine is hot and idling. You don't turn it off like the Lambo.
My dad SO nearly did this to his V8 Vantage. He told me one day he'd checked the oil and it didn't have any oil on the dipstick - I said "Errrrm, its dry sumped isn't it?". Checked the manual and instructions said to check it cold, but to run the engine for something like 30 seconds first, and sure enough he'd completely over-filled it.
Bought a tool to hand pump it back out via the dipstick tube, but that was a hell of a lot cheaper than driving round with it like that and damaging the engine.
Close shave!
Dude bring aldous on to explain everything if you can :)
Hi, just a hypothetical where the vehicle actually doesn't have or has very low oil but don't know this yet:
say the car had been sat a long time and therefore you potentially have no oil showing on the dip stick. So you start the car (unaware the vehicle actually has no oil), once up to temperature after a drive surely this too would also be a risk of damaging the engine as there is no oil? This seems far riskier than a normal wet sump checked when cold to me?
I also assume there are benefits to this system like a baffled sump etc?
If I have missed something I apologise but thanks!
You've got to remember these cars hold 10+ litres of oil. If enough escaped to cause an issue, you would probably see it - you'd have lost the equivalent of a whole bottle of oil in the engine bay (and onto your floor with a Gallardo).
There is no need for a baffled sump because the oil doesn't live there. A baffled sump essentially is a cheap way to solve the problem a dry sump fixes properly
@@JayEmmOnCars I didnt think about quantity, I was unaware it held so much! Compared to say a fiat 500 which holds around a measly 3L there would be an awful mess somewhere noticable if 10L had vanished!
I appreciate the reply as I'm always happy to learn about new things. Keep up the content :)
Every dry sump engine I’ve ever seen, mostly motorcycles but a few Ferrari’s & Porsche’s , there is a 1-way check ball valve in oil tank preventing it from draining out overnight. Find it very strange Audi would not employ the same. Their in-house cousin Porsche’s have check valves. Not that it matters since they are checked hot w/engine running...again strange that Audi suggests to check level w/engine off.
I can only imagine the engine damage from over-filled oil sump. Did engine hydrolock?
How does overfilling it cause damage though?
oil ends up were it should not be and normally causes damage by causing over pressure on seals blowing them out
@@simondale3980 Is this because there just isn't enough physical room in the bottom of the dry sump to store the excess? I guess the pressure then builds as the oil gets hotter causing all sorts of problems.
Love the car... but my goodness what a faff!
Oil checking is a funny thing isn’t it. I’ve always warmed the car up before checking oil. And after changing the oil I always warm it up and check again. Funny thing with older vw engines of you check your oil with the engine running firstly you muck up the vacuum system as the pcv system uses this and the engine bogs down and almost stalls. And secondly it will show practically no oil on the dipstick 🤣 so must be hot and engine off. I’ve seen a few people overfill a very / Audi this way too.
C8 Corvette needs to have its Oil checked while running
James, could you explain what happens to a dry sump engine overfilled with oil and why it's so bad.
Same as any engine- oil will eventually froth up and get places it isnt meant to go. You can't compress oil so of it starts to make it past the piston rings you ultimately run the chance of breaking a rod.
Oil is great so long as its only in the places it is meant to be
So, what's worse? 1L underfilled or overfilled? Given 10L in there i would say overfilled is much worse.
So basically if you was low on oil in the first place but didn't know you have to heat your engine up what could cause damage to check it
So what if you're not sure the car even has enough oil to start it?
Wouldn’t it pay to have a check valve in the system to stop oil running back through the pumps ? D
It isn't just owners who need educating. After two successive services, alternate ends of my car's crankshaft oil seals blew, due to overfilling of the {wet} sump by a franchised dealer's 'mechanics'. Not all are as fastidious and decent as this particular gentleman, sadly. I've owned bikes with both dry and wet sumps and have never over or underfilled any. To be fair, mechanics often take the brunt of unreasonable work time demands placed on them by don't give a toss businesses.
General opinion on the net seems to be that overfilling the dry sump tank is not overly serious and that excess oil due to overfilling will be blown out of the breather. That would appear to be misleading, I wonder if Aldous would be kind enough to explain what happens on the Lamborghini engine oil system when you overfill it that results in engine damage.
It depends how much you overfill it by. Any engine can be terminally damaged by adding too much oil
Thanks Jay, the point I was trying to make is that although most enthusiasts know not to overfill a wet sump engine there is a lot of misleading advice and discussions on forums and in chat rooms that say it is not a problem if you overfill a dry sump tank and I thought it might help if someone were to explain to those people why they are under a misapprehension about that and just what happens when they overfill a dry sump tank.
@@peterwoodhead2569 I may get Aldous to explain it in more detail when I next visit
A dry sump system might have a little more tolerance simply because of the sheer quantity of oil involved- but you put too much in and the result is the same
So the question is, if you do overfill it why is that bad? I overfilled one of my previous cars but it didn't do any damage.
Because an overfilled engine often will have the crank and rods running in the standing oil. It do not only generate a lot of additional resistance/heat, but may also fill the oil with air bobbles, reducing lubrication/cooling effect of the oil pushed through the bearings.
@@westmus Ah thanks for the info, I always thought it was better to have too much than not enough, but I can see now why that's not the case.
One of the perils of modern living (and car ownership) is that too many people think the answers to Life, the Universe and Everything are always available online.
A pukka old-school mechanic like Aldous will tell you that the answer is to RTFM - i.e. Read The F***ing Manual.
[Credit for the 'Life... Universe' quote goes to Douglas Adams, who determined that the actual answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything is 42.]
Mate you look like Seymour Hoffman
Just as important as checking the oil hot is how you check it with oil cap....just place the cap on the oil tank fill to check, don’t screw it down.
Incorrect. You always check the dipstick with it fully seated.
The Hutch I must have misread in the manual noted ‘important ‘about the filler cap resting on the oil separator filler neck....www.ferrarilife.com/attachments/430oil_change_1-jpg.45013/.
@@matthewernst2318 that link has nothing to do with the Gallardo oil level check procedure.
Sound advice
Bet you are praying for the barbers to re open 🤪
What makes it even more confusing on these things is that on some dipsticks you have 2 fluid level indicators, and others you have 3.
Then there's ones like the original Corvette ZR-1, which had the max/min markings in the wrong place
I'd wager the Gallardo has suffered more than it's share of overfill related incidents as it's a common "1st supercar" with some risk of new owners not doing their homework on the oil-check ritual.
So if the oil pumps not working you are likely to overfill and ruin your engine. Genius. For the road (not racing) seems like the classic wet sump is a safer option
dry sumps are used to get the engine as low as possible thus lowering the car's centre of gravity.
They are also far more reliable at delivering and maintaining constant oil pressure and volume over a wet sump which can suffer from surge, windage and momentary drops in pressure.
You'd be screwed either way with a broken oil pump
@@JayEmmOnCars I realised as soon as I'd made the comment!
I’m sorry to hear about the $25,000.00 mistake. Take care.
It was not his mistake. The engine was rebuilt after previous owner overfilled it.
The true question is, WHY overfilling kills the engine. What happens inside, and what parts are getting damaged?
seals o-rings vacuum system sensors the list goes on
How to check if your expensive supercar has enough oil in it... drive it until it's hot, then you will know it's got no oil or it's fine. Bit of a flawed system is the dry sump.
The Gallardo has an oil pressure and temperature gauge.
a minute and 30 second intro ad before the video starts is a little extreme
The hot oil expands by 10% doesn't pass my sanity check. Can you on your next video get one pint of oil , boil it in a kettle ( which you are about to throw away anyway) and then measure how much it has expanded. Thanks in advance.
I've just done a bit of Googling and using 10% as a rough guide doesn't seem too bad. It might be nearer 7-8% (depending on the oil used) in reality, but who can measure oil level accurately enough for that difference to matter?
What a weird request 😂
Roll on barber's shops re-opening methinks!
Can't come soon enough
My mum got her sheep sheared the other day I could put the details of who did it in a comment if you like.
That's probably what I need right now
@@JayEmmOnCars Are you doing a live chat today? Just after Harry if possible.
Expensive toys using cutting edge or "radical" technology need to be handled / managed properly... otherwise it gets expensive. Boring run of the mill stuff is just that - switch on switch off and walk away. I think this "rule" applies to all sort of stuff not just cars... e.g carbon frame high end mountain bikes. Like it or not the total life cycle costs need to be taken into account when purchasing... I have a friend who bought a Land Rover Discovery / a slightly older model. Needed work performing on the 4x4 system / it was expensive. I can't understand why he was so surprised when he got the bill... expensive toys!
Vid starts at 1:06, sorry James, it begins like a TGE video! Sorry again.
Had you just got out of bed? :o ;)
Now you know why Porsche don't let you check the oil on a 718 Cayman, not worth the risk of someone doing that by mistake.
So, if those "tolerances" within the pump mesh become "intolerant", it gets increasingly harder to change the oil and get a reading on the dipstick, because you have to drive it or rev it to get a reading. It sounds like a spot before the pump, needs to have a p-trap, like a sink drain, to prevent the draining through the pumps from occuring. Ah, but then it would just be a wet sump. Nevermind.
You could put a one way valve In the line between the scavenging pump and the tank or just put a dog leg in.
@@philiphawkins4684 Yeah, if that valve ever seizes shut, cause these are usually seasonal garage queens, it would really be a fried everything. There should just be a wet sump conversion developed, but that was the last true Lamborghini years, so it is common to suffer gladly.
We’re did ya get your hair done doodle the blind hairdressers association blimey John
I don't want any mechanic driving my exotic car to bring it up to temperature to put in oil.
21st century expensive cars that still need a stick to measure a hot liquid level. They need to come up with something better.
Using a stick to measure a liquid level is more reliable and mostly fool-proof. BMW don’t have a dipstick on some of there new models, instead they have an electronic sensor and you access the readout through the instrument cluster. Problem is it’s yet another sensor that can develop a fault and break.
@@rossl4975...like I said, something better.
What's going on with the hair??? 🤣
The advertising really sucks. Not sure this is needed.
Show don't tell, and too many ads !!!
That sounds like a costly mistake. The operative word here is "dipstick".
no, the operative word is "hot engine".
Doesn't actually explain why it's a bad idea to over-fill a dry sump. Obviously over-fill a wet sump and the crank and rods will start churning, but this can't happen on a dry sump...
Skillshare, Holmsdale, DB Hifi, AV Engineering. Jay, you're getting a bit too sponsored for your own good mate. It's 1 minute 36 before we see you talking about cars. Fair enough, owning a Lambo and making content for it is expensive but it's just starting to look like too much to me.
DB Hifi and Holmesdale are channel sponsors, and take up about five seconds of screen time. AV engineering are the main focus of the video, and not paying to be promoted. So that leaves one actual paying sponsor for the video - Skillshare.
I used to not even run mid roll ads and not once in three years did anyone ever thank me for that, I have a business to run not a charity and I do my best to strike a balance. Like for example, did you notice the chapter markings?
@@JayEmmOnCars Thanks for replying. I like your channel and I appreciate the effort you go to. Always good to share when there's something on your mind though.
Give the guy a chance to make some money , the ad sense on these vids is terrible this how UA-camrs make there money to make content.
How much weight does a dry sump actually save? It's all low down anyway. Its a system for people with too much money to get rid of. Thank god I can't afford it.
it's not the weight it saves , it's the fact the sump instead of say 6inches deep only needs to be 1 inch deep , so you can have the ( heavy ) engine say 5 inches lower .. but yeah , really not needed in most road cars
@@888johnmac OK that makes sense. For racing cars anyway.
@@888johnmac Also oil storage surge is not affected by sharp braking and high G cornering. Oil supply remains constant whatever.
I just found I had somehow been unsubscribed, back on again.
what a stupid system .. you have to run it hot to check it ... what if you have low oil and then take it for a 20 min drive ... if you lucky you just give it 1 years worth of wear ,, if not ,, new engine
With the amount of oil these have if you run it that low then it will have coated your garage floor already
Dry sump engines are better suited for high performance vehicles since they avoid oil starvation and sloshing under heavy acceleration, braking and cornering forces, plus the engine can be made less tall for a low profile body.
@@JayEmmOnCars exactly what I have just typed above mate.
If you check your oil as you finish using the car you have no worries unless there's an Deepwater Horizon sized slick in your garage.
@@JayEmmOnCars well the engine obviously needs all that oil so what happens when 1.5 litres goes missing ?? itis not like the engineers thought engine only needs 5 litres the rest is spare
@@andrewrose8148 the engine holds closer to 12 litres - two going missing won't kill it. Two too many is a bigger issue
Get a haircut mate.
All hairdressers in England are CLOSED Covid lockdown rules.
Stop talking shit, It’s not that bad, I’d like to see you!
You frustrated guys are impressive, talking about haircuts on a car video
Don't do this skill share thing again please. Or at least try make it subtle or amusing like Rich Rebuilds does
What is Skillshare? It’s UA-cam’s virus, its on every bloody channel 🤬