Is it permissible to beat children if they fail to recite Quran | Sheikh Assim Al Hakeem.

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  • @SammyHegab
    @SammyHegab Рік тому +77

    I disagree with the point the vast majority of parents/ Quranic teachers take things to the extreme driving children away from Islam. Love and respect is far more powerful than fear, I highly recommend parents should understand they do not own children, they are a trust from Allah and therefore it's obligation to show respect and love to your child.

    • @arkjade7715
      @arkjade7715 Рік тому +3

      agreed as a muslim!

    • @abazism
      @abazism Рік тому +1

      Exactly. Thank you.

    • @scaryfactswooo
      @scaryfactswooo Рік тому

      respect and love are okay, but you also have responsibility to teach them. And sometime beating is the only way

    • @abazism
      @abazism Рік тому

      @@scaryfactswooo first become a human then a Muslim. it’s psychological proven that it’s harder for a child to learn when they are scared. No wonder some of us are violent.

    • @AAa-eg1nl
      @AAa-eg1nl Рік тому

      Fear allah

  • @myjourneytotruth
    @myjourneytotruth Рік тому +29

    To reprimand a child, doesn't mean to hurt them physically/verbally but instead show them what took place was wrong & shouldn't be repeated & as a consequence they are segregated from the class to a corner of the room or given extra work to do or suspend them from the class for a few days so while they are alone they can be away from friends & usual routine. There's nothing more damaging to a child's growth overall than verbal & physical assault. When they grow up, either they will become an abuser or continue being abused & have people run all over them. The discipline of a child should never be taken from customs & culture rather than Islam like everything else in life. We have to remember that these boys & girls will grow up to be our future parents, leaders, mentors, teachers, etc. So sow a healthy fertile seed & take good care of it so it can grow to be a healthy tree, thus producing a beneficial abundant yields InShaAllah. What we do or not do or say today greatly affects our tomorrow.

    • @myjourneytotruth
      @myjourneytotruth Рік тому

      @mubashirshafiq2539 I agree with what he said, but he shouldn't have even mentioned anything about croaked practices of some people. Dont get me wrong culture is a good thing & it makes us unique & sets us apart but to be known for child beating in madrasas in Pakistan & India (subcontinent) isn't something anyone should mention to explain a question relating to Islam (a way of life). People can take what he said out of context & use it to their advantage. Besides, when one can not physically & verbally abuse their spouse for cheating on them, according to the Quran and Sunnah, how is it that they or someone they appoint could bring harm to the children placed under their trust (amanah) & not be reprimanded for it in any way shape or form. Like I said, children are our future grown ups, to raise them right with dignity & respect is an islamic duty for parents/elders but it's our duty as the ummah to ensure such status/positions aren't misused.

    • @nabilmuhammadsani2827
      @nabilmuhammadsani2827 Рік тому +1

      How's that working out in the west? Beating a child doesn't lead to a person being an abuser or unsuccessful, like literally every single person I know was beaten as a child because I come from Nigeria and it's normal, yet we have lower cases of mental health issues, suicide rates and the general crazy nonsense that happens in western nations. I do agree some people take discipline too far, but they are in the minority here, and I'm honestly someone who is against beating a child because he finds it hard to learn, but that being said if the Prophet PBUH commands the parent to beat the child if he doesn't pray, how can you still claim that beating a child is wrong?

  • @farahsiddique6702
    @farahsiddique6702 Рік тому +15

    May the PEACE MERCY AND BLESSINGS OF ALMIGHTY ALLAH BE WITH YOU AMEEN

  • @SuperMario-ij4om
    @SuperMario-ij4om Рік тому +2

    The best answer is the question did prophet (peace be upon him) beat his companions if they made a mistake while they ( his companions) were learning? The answer is "no"

  • @AK-mf1bo
    @AK-mf1bo Рік тому +3

    The hadith about the prophet Muhammad SAW is regarding hitting the child in case of failure to pray. I doesn't talk about the punishment for failing to recite the Qur'an academically. And I believe our Prophet SAW was way merciful than the so called teachers who have zero tolerance and beat the kids harshly over small mistakes. Humans respond better to mercy than oppression. And oppression is haram.

  • @wayofthesunnah
    @wayofthesunnah Рік тому +3

    Alot of people who left Islam are because of reasons like this and they blame islam for it. Parents and teachers need to show kids respect and love.

  • @oliverwindheart6342
    @oliverwindheart6342 Рік тому +12

    I think it depends on the situation. If a child is being negligent, lazy, or defiant then they can be disciplined within reason. If they are trying but struggle due to weakness then they shouldn’t be disciplined but rather encouraged. Some madrasa do go overboard and commit child abuse.

  • @abdulali3759
    @abdulali3759 Рік тому +6

    People not understanding the sheikh in comment section

  • @olegnurmagomedov750
    @olegnurmagomedov750 Рік тому +3

    Our Madrassa teacher used to beat children with electric shocks, wooden staff, etc. He was extremely brutal. And to my surprise, every other Madrassa teacher was like that.

  • @amatulla715
    @amatulla715 11 місяців тому

    Shaykh, a fine thought out answer. You are so right about what's going on in the West these days days. May Allah guide us.

  • @tarikulislam686
    @tarikulislam686 Рік тому +13

    Maybe Sheikh Assim Al Hakeem never visited our Madrasah. If you see how they treat the children it's not love trust me. Not saying we don't have any good teacher but the majority is bad.

    • @tarikulislam686
      @tarikulislam686 Рік тому

      @Mubashir Shafiq I was talking about my country only. Don't know Pakistan or Indian teacher But in Bangladesh it's worse. How would he (the Sheikh) know..

    • @kay1057
      @kay1057 Рік тому +2

      @@tarikulislam686 That's exactly what the Sheikh said, he does not know and it all depends on the country and the people.

  • @philcorp9705
    @philcorp9705 Рік тому +6

    Unfortunately, some teachers, tru their actions, install hatred towards learning. Not everyone learns at the same pace. Some are just plane bullies.

  • @zakariyafedoul1649
    @zakariyafedoul1649 Рік тому +5

    All the scholar in comment section
    Ignorant about islam yet with their émotions thinks they know better then a doctor in fiqh that's the level of arrogance today

  • @125discipline2
    @125discipline2 Рік тому +2

    as someone who's been abused since toddler. i will accept punishment as long as it's fair and not emotional vent.
    reprimand them but dont use anger. it's part of education, on how society works. in the west we all see many children dont have any shred of respect towards anyone. they think they can do whatever they want.

  • @kam70111
    @kam70111 Рік тому

    😊 I agree with the last part. Our generation.

  • @jordanmorris2914
    @jordanmorris2914 Рік тому +8

    You answered the question in the first bit. If it will turn one away from the religion then why would you do it? And if a child is willing disobeying their parents it is different than just making a mistake or "not learning quick enough". Ridiculous tbh

    • @Mo-sw7ho
      @Mo-sw7ho Рік тому +1

      That's because his teachings are based on Hadith. Not the Glorious and Supreme Quran.

    • @jordanmorris2914
      @jordanmorris2914 Рік тому

      @@mubashirshafiq2539 sorry I wasn't saying against the sheik I was talking about the original question. The guy said if it is turning them away from from islam, we'll then no don't do that thing 🤷‍♂️ but yh you can't beat up a child because they made an actual mistake

    • @humzdon4life
      @humzdon4life Рік тому +1

      @@Mo-sw7ho so you don't follow hadith whatsoever? Are you ahle Qur'an?

    • @Mo-sw7ho
      @Mo-sw7ho Рік тому

      @@humzdon4life correct.

    • @user-zj6hn4nb1m
      @user-zj6hn4nb1m Рік тому +3

      ​@@humzdon4life "ahle Quran" lol, what a silly name, more like "ahlul Zindiq". if they were "ahlul Quran" they would listen to the Prophet (saw) as Allah instructs in the Quran

  • @Ammarfutboledits
    @Ammarfutboledits 3 місяці тому

    Same with me one time i came to masjid and when it was my turn to read the quran.it was one single mistake and he atleast hit me on the head for 3 times man now im scared to go masjid because if i go it will happen again

  • @trndsttr7585
    @trndsttr7585 Рік тому +1

    I never knew there were so many scholars in the comments.

  • @Majooode94
    @Majooode94 Рік тому

    I spent over a decade on circles of holy Quran. And just to be fair every teacher has his method of teaching or delivering a message to the children who don't want to memorize their verses. But there's always a limit of beating children even in normal schools. So please ppl don't get way emotional on this point because in normal schools we ever day see worse than the teachers have done to those children.

  • @travelingfamily1859
    @travelingfamily1859 Рік тому

    MashAllah

  • @muhammadrasheed8015
    @muhammadrasheed8015 Рік тому

    Child either studies with passion or with fear , what he learns with passion is permanent, and what he learns in fear , last only to the extent of passing the exam ، if the Craftsmen makes a Sculptor he also uses his Hammer and Chisel gently and carefully, most of the madrasas beat small children very mercilessly which creates deep hatred for " Molvises, or their Islamic teachers in heart, A child is an example of a stone, now perfection belongs to the one who carves it, yes is also true that some children are very mischievous , a little hardship should be done for them, But what is up to their tolarance and physical condition,

  • @lowmoe2112
    @lowmoe2112 Рік тому +1

    I disagree with this imam in some stuff the prophet Muhammad peace be upon him said only hit there hands and butt not beat them he also said hitting the face is haram and so if hitting the face is haram where should you hit your child face and but and he also said do not break the skin he should of given an explanation instead of saying saying you could “beat them”

  • @freeyourmind7538
    @freeyourmind7538 Рік тому +2

    These scholars need to work on transmitting information clearly...saying the word beat them, holds a huge negative connotation than just saying, discipline them.
    Beat them, shows physically harming them, whereas discipline shows that something done was wrong, and now there is a consequence of making you not repeat the bad action.
    Consequence can be anything, like grounding, less pocket money, extra homework and if it comes to it, spanks or light hits that show some force but no bruising.
    Beat is too negative in the emglish language, it sounds extremely aggressive, maybe you can get away with it in.arabic but in English, it comes.across.very aggressive

    • @oulangkous718
      @oulangkous718 10 місяців тому

      Right, they use incorrect terminology. Beat is what happened in slavery. "He beat him with a stick".
      Beat, Strike, Smack(slap in th face). All problematic terms and why the non-Muslims get confused and think abuse is allowed in Islam.

  • @nasrineable
    @nasrineable 9 місяців тому

    I was beating schools I that made me hates school. I am not completely against beating but a little smack just to great fear but beating to hurt and send to hospital is totally unacceptable! But no violence is best. But remember there are children who are very very naughty. Talk really doesn’t work

  • @sofiakhan4580
    @sofiakhan4580 Рік тому +9

    Getting beaten for not being able to recite Quran made me hate the Islam.
    And also reading the Quran in Arabic - a language that I don’t understand made me uninterested in Islam. I was reading a book that I don’t understand , no one taught me why I had to read it or what it said. While my peers were enjoying their childhood I was being beaten up. So I resented being a Muslim. I thank Allah swt that my dad was able to make me somewhat interested in Islam but even he was misguided in some aspects. Things didn’t add up and I still had doubts - Then I was guided /helped by dawa groups at college - I went on to study it at Islam at A level and I realised it was the truth. I have a daughter now , and I will do things properly . I am never going to beat my child (age 4). I lead by example and explain things to her at a level she understands. She is already keen to copy me when I pray Salah - I will teach her Quran at home as I don’t feel it’s safe for girls to go to these mosque schools. They can get abused and in my area they only do Pakistani Darasa - which teach shirk . Best to teach your kids at home at a sensible pace. And explain everything logically to them, plus UA-cam had excellent video with credible scholars to guide you. I have the Quran in translation and the Hadiths as reference . I wouldn’t trust other ppl to teach my child Islam , I feel that is my duty

    • @gulnazkhan8520
      @gulnazkhan8520 Рік тому +2

      Sad to say I was also treated as u was and the truth is it makes it hard to enjoy learning all I knw that it was a punishment if dad was upset do wuzu go read Quran doesn't help but it does hinder

    • @lowmoe2112
      @lowmoe2112 Рік тому

      Sofia your just a hypocrite and fool person Islam and Allah didn’t teaches us to treat children like that, the prophet Muhammad peace be upon him said hitting the face is prohibited, hitting some one to the point where it breaks there skin is also prohibited he also said only hit there hands and butts but people are fools and don’t understand I also disagree with this imam but me saying this made me hate Islam it’s very arrogant of me to say repent to Allah ya sofia before it’s too late you fool don’t ever say this made me hate Islam because this is not how the prophet or Allah taught us how to treat children just because a see a woman wearing hijab beating up a child with slippers doesn’t man yup that’s it I hate Islam like imma smack u bruh google something if u can’t understand or watch a different imam this imam sucks

    • @sinewedbastion
      @sinewedbastion Рік тому

      You are tiptoeing between being a kaffir and a Muslim. Very sad.

  • @agungpriambodo1674
    @agungpriambodo1674 11 місяців тому

    It depends on the situation
    The wrong is when innocent children who have deformity of speech thus physically can't recite correctly
    Of course we should teach him
    The child purposefully lazy and mockingly Qur'an
    First they advize
    Second they order him to stop
    Third they give him a speacial teacher
    Fourth they get angry at him verbally
    Fifth they get angry to his parents to tell him and be aware of the consequences
    If the local law doesn't allow beating
    Return the child to his parents

  • @HitherandYarn
    @HitherandYarn Рік тому +1

    You really have to ask this in 2023? And Sheikh, you don't know it's wrong to beat a child?

  • @ahlinventoryone9184
    @ahlinventoryone9184 Рік тому

    Beating a child because they not learning the Quran properly is no way permissable I don't think our nabi would have done such a thing the only thing he instructed to beat them for is If they refuse to pray not because they not learning properly

  • @user-iv2yc9yt7j
    @user-iv2yc9yt7j Рік тому

    Shaikh please try to understand the question. The prayer is the most important thinks in the life, and the order is from Prophet, but memorizing all the Quran is optional and the Prophet didn't say beat children for that, instead he said بشروا ولا تنفروا، من لا يرحم لا يرحم.
    Also الظلم ظلامات
    والجروح قصاص..
    Then for what you want to punish children؟؟!!

  • @georgefrancis8602
    @georgefrancis8602 Рік тому +3

    Nothing like a good Whipping!

    • @Dohzr
      @Dohzr Рік тому +1

      As someone whose had his fair share of beatings as a child, I can say it was almost always deserved, and taught me to be a better muslim and a better human as a result. Nowadays, people are afraid of speaking in a loud voice to their child, let alone discipline them physically (within reason) and it shows how a lot of kids are disrespectful to their parents and moving far from our religion. It is a fact that a lot of kids just need a bit of tough love, and constant love and no consequences will have a negative effect on their upbringing.

  • @idontknowyou876
    @idontknowyou876 Рік тому

    Ok he just said the prophet said to beat after 3 years if they don't pray case closed

    • @hassanishfaq25
      @hassanishfaq25 Рік тому

      Yes but after 10 years

    • @idontknowyou876
      @idontknowyou876 Рік тому

      @@hassanishfaq25 does not matter when

    • @hassanishfaq25
      @hassanishfaq25 Рік тому +1

      @@idontknowyou876 when kid is 7 years old but once you turn 10 they start to beat you

    • @idontknowyou876
      @idontknowyou876 Рік тому

      @@hassanishfaq25 yes isn't that tyranny

    • @hassanishfaq25
      @hassanishfaq25 Рік тому +1

      @@idontknowyou876 no parent will beat their 10 year old kid that hard

  • @anonymous1531
    @anonymous1531 Рік тому

    I knew someone left Islam because of these silly Arabic teachers screaming, jumping on sofas shouting and beating the children. People didn’t even leave because they disliked what the deen taught, they left it because of the people..

  • @PhoticSneezeOne
    @PhoticSneezeOne Рік тому +2

    Beating your children REGARDLESS of the reason is haram Mr Hakeem.

  • @thehourglassfan3515
    @thehourglassfan3515 Рік тому +2

    Absolutely wrong. It doesn’t matter what he’s saying. What’s wrong is wrong.

    • @ProudSunniMuslim
      @ProudSunniMuslim Рік тому +1

      It actually doesn’t matter what you are saying. What you think is personally wrong is of no significance fortunately.

    • @WillScarlet1991
      @WillScarlet1991 Рік тому

      @Mubashir Shafiq Can you stop repeating yourself please in every comment?

    • @soulb.7870
      @soulb.7870 Рік тому +2

      @Mubashir Shafiqmay Allah bless you with firdaus without any hisab as your reward for going into the comment section and trying to spread the truth

    • @thehourglassfan3515
      @thehourglassfan3515 Рік тому

      @Mubashir Shafiq Lightly? Like with a toothbrush? That’s still unacceptable. Trust me, I know where this guy stands. I don’t like his fanaticism.

    • @thehourglassfan3515
      @thehourglassfan3515 Рік тому

      @@ProudSunniMuslim Yeah, well, at least I know that beating a child is totally wrong. Shame on you for your comment, instead of agreeing with him, you should think.

  • @Sheenovastee
    @Sheenovastee Рік тому +2

    Hitting a child is abuse. Period

    • @jackwollven141
      @jackwollven141 Рік тому

      If you truly care about your kids, you will do whatever it takes to get them on the correct road, regardless of whether that's what they want or what makes you happy. Alluding to what they require. If you don't believe me, just ask someone who has Muslim friends; the ability to choose what you want is balanced by the inability to choose what you need. Is that now really bad for society, or do some parents just not know how to teach their kids responsibility? Life doesn't give kids a warning before slapping them upside the head. Who is wrong now?

    • @Sheenovastee
      @Sheenovastee Рік тому

      @@jackwollven141 I'm Muslim and grew up with Muslims. It's wrong

  • @usamuslimvt
    @usamuslimvt Рік тому +6

    "Let there be no compulsion in religion," Holy Qu'ran, 2:256 With all due respect, I disagree with the idea of forcing religion on a child as it goes against one of the fundamental principles of our faith, and I know for an absolute fact first-hand what you FORCE upon a child, that child will often grow up to reject. I did...for many decades. My heart tells me the proper way to teach a child is to GUIDE them. Don't command them what to do...SHOW them what to do. Children learn best by observing and copying what they observe. If they see you pray...they will start to copy what you do. As their interest in what you're doing naturally grows...you explain to them...what you're doing...what you're saying...and why...on a level that they can grasp intellectually. Show them through humility, grace, and above all patience. If you just stand around barking commands and making threats all they will learn from you is hate. JazakAllah khayran to all who strive for the sake of Islam!

    • @ariefahmedshaik729
      @ariefahmedshaik729 Рік тому +4

      Mashallah you disagree prophet Hadith

    • @usamuslimvt
      @usamuslimvt Рік тому

      @@ariefahmedshaik729 I believe positive conditioning will always be more effective than negative conditioning...but Allah SWT knows best.

    • @thehourglassfan3515
      @thehourglassfan3515 Рік тому

      @@ariefahmedshaik729 The Prophet (peace be upon him) would never order to beat children. This is not my prophet. I don’t believe in the narration.

    • @ariefahmedshaik729
      @ariefahmedshaik729 Рік тому +2

      @@thehourglassfan3515 the Hadith is sahi , if you don’t believe that’s your problem

    • @MENGGELABA100KALI
      @MENGGELABA100KALI Рік тому

      @@ariefahmedshaik729 your answer its too easy. In the end you have to experience yourself then you know how and when.

  • @Think_pls
    @Think_pls Рік тому

    Very disturbing answer
    It shows what Islam is
    Straight from the sheikh himself
    I hope people see this fact
    Rarely we find this chance
    Thanks

    • @Think_pls
      @Think_pls Рік тому

      @Free Palestine 🇵🇸
      No comment
      Let the people judge
      Some people can see the problem in it

    • @ibnmusa8214
      @ibnmusa8214 Рік тому +4

      Islām is the religion of truth with clear proofs and evidences. It is a beautiful religion.
      Even the verse in which there is an instruction from Allāh to beat one's wife, consists of lightly hitting her with a small and light stick.
      The Prophet (ﷺ) never raised his hand upon a single women.
      The children are to be disciplined without transgressing the limits. As for the one who denies this, then his example is that of a man, when his children misbehaves, does not disciplines them properly until they grow up to have a rotten rebellious nature and be ill-mannered.