Host, Core, and Original

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 277

  • @jayjaybearington8376
    @jayjaybearington8376 6 років тому +309

    The paper analogy is actually really helpful to people that are new to the concept of DID

    • @quinnsinclair7028
      @quinnsinclair7028 3 роки тому +4

      I've heard others use a shattered glass in a similar fashion. It really helps to visualize it.

  • @ser2952
    @ser2952 6 років тому +152

    The paper is a great analogy. We're all part of the same paper that was there in the very beginning, even if we came along later or whatever.

  • @acaciairving
    @acaciairving 6 років тому +126

    Well done. I always explain it like a pie. You can cut the pie as many times as you want but it still maintains being a whole pie with all the pieces.

    • @CptShelby
      @CptShelby 4 роки тому +4

      But it doesn't really fit, since a body isn't born with a finished "personality". No matter if DID or not, a freshly born child doesn't have a personality like an adult. Personality/ies are formed during development of the human.
      So, I doubt that the core as they know her, existed as long as the body existed.

  • @KROkilljoy
    @KROkilljoy 5 років тому +29

    I always thought of it like a tree, the roots (the body) keep you grounded, the trunk (host) keeps everything moving in the right direction, and the branches (alters) help maintain the health of the tree, but I really like the paper analogy.

  • @systemk9488
    @systemk9488 6 років тому +95

    I’ve thought about this a lot, I think the main reason we use the word “original” is because it’s what our therapist used. But I’ve always kind of felt weird about it, like it was my title, like I was the chosen one or something. Haha
    -Catherine

    • @rakadoni8403
      @rakadoni8403 5 років тому +1

      It's cool to hear you re-evaluate the word, I think it's nice to see you all educating each other as well as those of us without DID. I love both your channels btw :) x

  • @noahhh4587
    @noahhh4587 6 років тому +172

    As someone who doesn't have DID but still enjoys your videos I love being educated on this type of thing. Part of this reason is I may one day have a friend who has DID being a bit more understanding will probably help a in our friendship with understanding who is out, why they have it (not specifically what had happened to them to traumatize them but just that something happened)and things like that. I also used to think of it as a bad thing (To have DID) before I stumbled across this channel and was educated more on the subject. I know now that while it is definitely not a good thing it means the core has had something very traumatic happen it is to simply help protect that core so nothing like that can happen again. Honestly I'm not sure how to word it but I love your guys channel and I'm glad to be able to be educated about this. Much love💚💙

    • @douglasvincent5925
      @douglasvincent5925 6 років тому +20

      I just wanted to say, as someone who DOES have DID, I really appreciate people like you who are willing to be open-minded and learn about DID even though you don't have it and don't currently know anyone who has it. That is so awesome! That's why The Entropy System's channel, and others like it, are so important. They are showing people that DID is not the scary, freaky thing that some people think it is, nor is it the cool, awesome thing that other people think it is. It is a coping mechanism that is difficult to live with, but doesn't have to be totally debilitating. So thank you, chicken nuggets, for being willing to educate yourself about it, and thank you, Entropy System, for doing the educating! You guys are awesome!!! - Leyna of the Doug Vincent system

    • @musiclolli7280
      @musiclolli7280 5 років тому +5

      How amazing the power of these videos, the bravery of doing this channel, and how humble of you chicken nuggets to admit that you used to think it was a bad thing and now have changed your mind and thank you as your comment has helped me feel better :)

    • @summahthevegan3796
      @summahthevegan3796 5 років тому +1

      Yes, I don't have DID nor do I have friends with DID (at least as far as I'm aware) but I want to understand it.
      Partly because I have mental health issues; specifically trauma based ones (BPD & CPTSD) so I know what it's like to go through fkd up stuff. Also my BPD diagnosis causes me to experience stigma not only from regular people but from "professionals" too so I can totally relate to those parts of DID. But I feel like partly it's because I'm interested in mental health in general and helping people and want to be able to help ALL people.
      I have a dream to open a sanctuary for abused human and non human animals where they come together to heal one another (that's the short version) and I feel like this is something I will NEED more information and understanding of to do so.
      Plus I find other mental illness explained fascinating and want to learn about it much like I find behaviors and such fascinating too. And I love to learn about how best to help someone when stressed as it also helps me. Like for example finding ways to help someone in a panic attack helped me when I've had them too.
      Plus when it comes to UA-cam The Entropy System, DisassociaDID & Multiplicity +Me are ALL such nice people and from what I know of those in the systems they are so genuinely wanting to educate and help others wether that's fellow DID people, their friends & supports &or random people.
      And I've noticed how kind they can be with responses to thise struggling so I enjoy watching them for those reasons too.
      Like if they were mean disrespectful people I wouldn't keep watching them as there'd be no point as I can't stand that so the fact that they are so beautiful in their own ways makes it even easier to watch their content.

    • @PregnantWithKittens
      @PregnantWithKittens 4 роки тому +1

      I felt the exact same way. It felt like I was preparing for a future friendship or for a current friend to discover DID in themselves. I told a close friend about this feeling I had and she thought it was funny. About a year later she started hearing from her alters. And we brought up that feeling I had before either of us were aware of how accurate it was. It has helped so much to have some understanding about DID to be the person she can talk to about it.

    • @seantaggart7382
      @seantaggart7382 4 роки тому

      Yeah which the brain doing the splits in emergency is super amazing
      Like WOOWWW thats cool
      Like i never THOUGHT the Brain does that

  • @kiki6578
    @kiki6578 6 років тому +58

    I love learning from your videos! I just got accepted to a canadian medical school three days ago. The entropy system is making me a more sensitive and compassionate person and I'll take what I learn here and pass it on for decades to come :)

  • @MidoriJane12
    @MidoriJane12 6 років тому +74

    Thank you for all of your educational videos!! They really help people like me (who doesn’t have DID) understand.

  • @ugotztabeekrazee
    @ugotztabeekrazee 6 років тому +9

    holy crap even as someone w DID this was really clarifying, i never thought of it this way

  • @BrookieLikesCars
    @BrookieLikesCars 6 років тому +15

    I like that y'all don't use Original because you are all original in a form, but core and host make sense. Hosts lead what's going on in the 'real world' and the core is the person who is the one who was born with the body and needed the protection from the alters. Thanks for explaining the terms Daniel!! Entropy System, y'all are all awesome and I hope you all have a lovely day

  • @silzu1533
    @silzu1533 6 років тому +29

    Those are really great examples. Using that paper as a way to show us more clearly how this works, it really made me understand it better. Good job :)

  • @twinstarssystem2857
    @twinstarssystem2857 3 роки тому +3

    We do consider ourself having two originals, but not in the same sense people tend to mean- there are just two particular headmates who have been around the longest and who have bonded as a result of that.

  • @toosei4296
    @toosei4296 6 років тому +26

    You're so good at explaining thing, Daniel. You could probably explain anything and I'd understand. Thank you so much for teaching us all these things.

  • @Nibblenephim
    @Nibblenephim 5 років тому +2

    This makes so much sense! Tom and Silas Co-host in our system, and Silas is the core, even though he doesn't have name that we were born with (that's actually one of our really shy alters who almost never comes out, she normally just hides in The Basement, which is a corner of our mind that we can't see into, and others can't see out of, kind of like a panic room, and when she isn't in The Basement she hides with one of our other shy Alters, Athena.) So we always call her the original, because she has the name we were born with. But I see how that term might not sit right with you!
    ~Lily

  • @vinx3078
    @vinx3078 4 роки тому +3

    The analogy actually blew me away. They should teach it this way in professional settings it's honestly a super easy way and straight forward way to explain it. Very good job!

  • @solar_co
    @solar_co 6 років тому +12

    I'm glad having more than one host is normal! Levi (cohost)and I Janina(core) have been in this balance for several years but when I've mentioned this on Instagram some other systems seemed confused.
    -we love your channel!! it's so educational and never triggering which we appreciate so much. we're thinking about showing some of your guy's videos to our therapist. -isabelle
    also, I'm glad you explained the difference between "original" and core. we've been using the term original for a while but your paper analogy taught us better. -levi
    it's good to know!! -isabelle
    ps. if any of you systems in the comments would like to connect, our instagtam is @sunlight_system 💕
    -janina

  • @bRoKensOul6331
    @bRoKensOul6331 3 роки тому +1

    This makes so much sense. Our system is a bit odd at times. My alter/ co-host see's herself as the core ( mainly because she comes out so much). But for her, it's more about keeping everything in check and source of strength also courage to not be scared. As everyone can tell by our profile picture, heh

  • @legoduckie
    @legoduckie 6 років тому +8

    Good things to know! I’ve always been slightly confused as to what terms to use when talking about this. “Original” just seemed kinda inaccurate. Also, good job with the paper analogy! It helped.

  • @TheBagSystem
    @TheBagSystem 3 роки тому +1

    I’ve said the same thing in my last podcast about how we are all alters. I did have a re-arranging of perspective on DID that had been much like your paper example, but realized that according to the current and accepted explanation of structural dissociation, the paper didn’t rip into pieces where they were once a whole paper, but they started off as pieces and never became whole.

  • @jaywilliams4810
    @jaywilliams4810 6 років тому +8

    I recently came across y’all’s channel probably because I follow Jess and her boys on Multiplicity and Me and I binge watched all your videos. Learning about different systems is absolutely fascinating! Thank you for the educational aspects as well!

  • @mikylabunnett6848
    @mikylabunnett6848 6 років тому +14

    I literally found your channel 24 hours ago and watched all of your guys' videos! I started studying, and what do you know, y'all upload! This is great, and you guys are great

  • @thevoyagesystem
    @thevoyagesystem 4 роки тому +3

    Daniel: Our host is different than our core. Dani is our host, and Apryl is our core. Apryl is dormant unfortunately. She does come out once in a while, but not terribly often. She only seems to come out once in a while during intense trauma or to express gratitude to our partner system who has been incredible to us. I'd say she comes out maybe 2 or 3 times a year at the most, if not more sparse than that.

  • @shiaseedsalad2726
    @shiaseedsalad2726 3 роки тому

    5:29 awww adorable kitty.
    I love your videos so much, I'm learning so much about myself and it's awesome

  • @ballroomauthor6587
    @ballroomauthor6587 4 роки тому +1

    This video helped immensely. My girlfriend is the core as well as the host. All of her alters recently "officially came out", and the whole "everyone is an alter" concept kicked off an existential crisis for both of us. "What if I'm not me?" "What if, after, I integrate, I'm a completely different person and everything changes?" Now, I feel like I completely understand it. She's the personality born with the body, she's out 90% of the time, and all of the alters acknowledge that they are pieces that will come together to help her feel more like herself. Whew. Massive relief for both of us. Thanks!

  • @myribunt5261
    @myribunt5261 6 років тому +1

    I use both host and core too. I don't have many alters and we all are happy with these terms. Thank you so much. I appreciate your channel so so much. I can't thank you enough! I'm sure everyone here appreciates it as well. Have a great week!

  • @JuiceMade3603
    @JuiceMade3603 6 років тому +6

    This was really interesting! I have been wondering this for a long while! Thanks!

  • @gieromguy_does_nothing_pro8458
    @gieromguy_does_nothing_pro8458 6 років тому +2

    This cleared up a lot of questions i had but was to afraid to ask. Thanks :)

  • @CRYSTALNOODLES
    @CRYSTALNOODLES 4 роки тому

    this is so very helpful - thank you!

  • @Aku_Tenshi
    @Aku_Tenshi 6 років тому

    Thanks for another great video guys! :)

  • @christyschmidt6759
    @christyschmidt6759 5 років тому

    This is an awesome analogy and so helpful! Thank you!

  • @allysonjoyner2155
    @allysonjoyner2155 5 років тому +1

    Thanks so much, Daniel! My experience with my psychologist validates your example. He considers my other identities equal to me and that I am equal to them! I love it! Thanks sooo very much from the Androemeda System!❤

  • @elicialovess
    @elicialovess 6 років тому

    I'm learning as I go, and this was so, so helpful. Thank you so much.

  • @nicolerinaldi2847
    @nicolerinaldi2847 5 років тому

    This is the best analogy I’ve ever seen, thank you!!!

  • @selinahoxit627
    @selinahoxit627 5 років тому

    What an amazing way to explain this. Love your videos! 😊

  • @JessieLynne-lr6el
    @JessieLynne-lr6el 5 років тому

    You explain this so well! Well done Daniel 😊

  • @soleildehope
    @soleildehope 6 років тому

    Great done Daniel! Thank you!

  • @Kris_Phoenixx
    @Kris_Phoenixx 6 років тому +2

    Thank you so much. I’ve been having a hard time with the whole original thing because I don’t have a lot of childhood memories, my little does but she doesn’t come out. So I was wondering who was there when I was a child? Were they the original? But this makes more sense to me. We all make up an original who split and I am the core and host. This helped receive a lot of stress. Thank you

  • @luciapitti1722
    @luciapitti1722 4 роки тому

    I've always wondered that too and you have been really clear and helpful. Thank you

  • @JennyMacBallard
    @JennyMacBallard 5 років тому

    Thank you Daniel. You made that so easy to understand.

  • @cynthiamacaringue5650
    @cynthiamacaringue5650 5 років тому

    Great explanation!!!!!!! The paper analogy was awesome

  • @neo_keo3702
    @neo_keo3702 6 років тому

    Thanks for the great explanation, Daniel!

  • @dennis8836
    @dennis8836 6 років тому

    I can watch your videos over 20 times without losing interest. Great content!

  • @brynsavenkoff7322
    @brynsavenkoff7322 6 років тому

    You guys always make such great analogies that are easy to understand, and it's much appreciated

  • @oscarcerda8331
    @oscarcerda8331 6 років тому +22

    Love your explanation boo, Osc is our host and I guess I can be called the co-host cuz I come out a lot and can be out for a long time but osc is our core, much love from me cutie 😘
    -Cue

    • @Andy-yw4fc
      @Andy-yw4fc 6 років тому +1

      I can assure you that neither Wyn nor anyone in her system considers themselves your "boo," and I can also assure you that no one in the system appreciates you calling them cutie.

    • @oscarcerda8331
      @oscarcerda8331 6 років тому +1

      Andy listen, I'm gay, I'm a flirt, I'm not meant to be taken seriously, I love her and her system like family members, nothing more, kay?
      -Cue

    • @Andy-yw4fc
      @Andy-yw4fc 6 років тому +2

      And I'm saying however you choose to define yourself doesn't excuse common decency. Being a flirt doesn't excuse making people uncomfortable. I think what you meant to start that off was with "I don't care how people feel because I'm just inconsiderate and I justify it this way....."

    • @seantaggart7382
      @seantaggart7382 4 роки тому

      @@oscarcerda8331 hey its ok but please try to tone it a bit down there are maybe children around?

  • @r.schultheis1494
    @r.schultheis1494 6 років тому

    This was really something I didn't get until now, thank you so much for explaining! :)

  • @youwish7597
    @youwish7597 5 років тому

    Thanks Daniel for explaining it so clearly, I've come to enjoy watching your systems videos and have learned a lot! I definitely intend on watching future videos

  • @grayskindablue
    @grayskindablue 6 років тому +1

    I needed this so much. I didn’t know why I was so drawn to DID videos but I.. I guess us... are freaked out and trying to figure out when the host switched.

  • @deborahweston4493
    @deborahweston4493 6 років тому

    This made a lot of sense. Thank You

  • @YourMom-jd6jp
    @YourMom-jd6jp 3 роки тому

    The paper is a surprisingly unique and effective analogy! I never would've thought about it that way!

  • @theamethystsystem329
    @theamethystsystem329 5 років тому

    That just helped us so much! That's the best way I've ever heard it explained for sure.

  • @titoburrito-o1k
    @titoburrito-o1k 5 років тому

    Thank you for explaining in a very easy to understand way.

  • @sleepyselkiesiren
    @sleepyselkiesiren 6 років тому

    Thank you for explaining it in a way that makes tons of sense

  • @lorikiszkawoods9350
    @lorikiszkawoods9350 5 років тому +1

    O love you videos! I discovered them through the dissociaDID system and have been binge watching them all day

  • @taylakera5059
    @taylakera5059 6 років тому

    Thank you so much for explaining love it ❤💚💜

  • @itsrainingbooks6005
    @itsrainingbooks6005 6 років тому

    Thank you for the paper analogy. the way you explained that really clicked for me! its really helped me understand DID a bit more just like all your videos! so thanks!

  • @arah8883
    @arah8883 6 років тому

    Great explanation Daniel! Thank you!

  • @questionablyhollow4911
    @questionablyhollow4911 6 років тому

    That analogy is absolutely amazing, Daniel, always awesome to have a video that presents a topic I'd not even thought of before in a way like that

  • @brittbritt517
    @brittbritt517 6 років тому

    Thank you Daniel for the information! also for sharing your adorable kitty! 😸

  • @wmearp5490
    @wmearp5490 6 років тому +1

    This was very easy to follow and understand. Thanks for taking the time to make these videos for those who do and don't have DID :)

  • @robotsneedlove
    @robotsneedlove 5 років тому

    This was such a fantastic analogy

  • @AhsetofAtum
    @AhsetofAtum 6 років тому +1

    Awesome! Great explanation😉

  • @glitterbea
    @glitterbea 5 років тому

    this is a great explanation Daniel!

  • @robingillespie4513
    @robingillespie4513 6 років тому

    Thank you for explaining that. It makes so much sense now.

  • @naturesholly1677
    @naturesholly1677 6 років тому +1

    thank you Daniel for today's lesson, I love learning, I soak it up like a sponge.
    have a great day
    💜💛💙🌞

  • @sarakleinschrodt8966
    @sarakleinschrodt8966 5 років тому

    Genius. This makes sooo much more sense!!!

  • @Koffeegurl
    @Koffeegurl 4 роки тому

    Such a great analogy!

  • @marq6929
    @marq6929 6 років тому

    Thank you for that analogy; that's the best I've ever heard it explained!

  • @dalton6173
    @dalton6173 5 років тому +1

    Thank you this will help me make a much better representation of DID in my book.

  • @raelynhomecreations8558
    @raelynhomecreations8558 6 років тому +1

    Daniel! I love when you explain things :) plus your voice is so soothing!! Although, everyone does an amazing job!! Keep it up guys :*

  • @musiclolli7280
    @musiclolli7280 5 років тому +1

    Wow :) as someone whose therapist has suggested and helped me recently explore this possibility for my way of being, a system, this helped calm my identity crisis and sense of losing myself or being forced to add something to or take something away from me by accepting this possible reality. This also helped me realise if it is true that I am a system, it is not that the total of "me" has lost control and could at any point ending with the result that so I am more dangerous or risky than other people and always will be, but simply that even if who I experience the world as now was not the identity existing from birth, or it is and another one needs to come to the front consciously, I who I experience most of my time as, am still from "me" who was born (the full me before breaking off) and a part of it and still one with it in a sense, and it might not be so scary for me to come to terms with that I could who experience most my time could be a fleshed out earlier fragment and even help me begin to accept the possibility that this (system/disorder) is applicable to me. Your video was much clearer than my comment haha >< so thank you so much. I think in the future, if this turns out that I am, a system, then I think I will use this video to explain what is going on to people who I am close to. Thank you so much! so clear

  • @chrisrocheleau6251
    @chrisrocheleau6251 6 років тому

    thanks for the info daniel!

  • @MindfullyMindy
    @MindfullyMindy 5 років тому

    Great job, Daniel.

  • @RileyKohler
    @RileyKohler 6 років тому

    Aw this is such a great way to explain it!! I have such a hard time trying to explain the concept of core vs host to people, definitely gonna start using this paper analogy!

  • @shedreamsofhorses
    @shedreamsofhorses 6 років тому

    Really well described!

  • @PumpkinBecki
    @PumpkinBecki 5 років тому

    Beautiful explanation Daniel, thank you xx

  • @lisawardle4297
    @lisawardle4297 4 місяці тому

    That was a really great explanation. Thanks Daniel.

  • @brisabrito9137
    @brisabrito9137 3 роки тому

    Very clear. Great analogy.

  • @GinaDellaSallatheawesome
    @GinaDellaSallatheawesome 6 років тому

    As a relatively new follower, this was really helpful!! I hope to work with systems in the future once i start my career in mental health care

  • @AB-xy4bc
    @AB-xy4bc 6 років тому +1

    great explanation!

  • @skateboardparker
    @skateboardparker 6 років тому

    Wow I loved your explanation of original with the piece of paper analogy!!!

  • @kati_ranae
    @kati_ranae 6 років тому

    Hi! I recently discovered this channel and started learning about DID, then I learned one of my close friends has DID. It is so cool to learn from a system like yours about DID and then in turn, help out my friend. Thank you so much for existing, I love your channelllllll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @highwayyunicorn
    @highwayyunicorn 5 років тому

    Thanks for that vidéo ! I was asking myself that question actually 🙌🏻

  • @RenWonders
    @RenWonders 6 років тому

    Can I just say how I happy I am that I can watch you guys every Monday morning. It's such a great start to my day :) Anyways, I'm reference to the video, although it's a little embarrassing to admit now, I actually never thought of originals/cores in that way. Though this just reidderated what I knew about alters being parts of the host and not additions, i guess I never put two and two together on the definitions of different terminology and how they may contradict with that knowledge.

  • @douglasvincent5925
    @douglasvincent5925 6 років тому +1

    Thank you for your excellent explanation, Daniel! As part of a DID system myself, I too get frustrated by people who don't understand this concept. But I agree with you, the best thing to do when you are frustrated by people like that, is not to get angry, but to educate them! I can tell that you and the rest of your system really have a heart for educating people about DID, and I think that's awesome! Keep up the good work, you guys! - Leyna Vincent

  • @9687loveless
    @9687loveless 5 років тому

    Good analogy!! ☺️

  • @kj-sf4md
    @kj-sf4md 6 років тому

    YES! That's it. EXACTLY! Thank you.

  • @Isaac-ep5ew
    @Isaac-ep5ew 6 років тому +1

    Omg nice! You guys always seem to make videos with explanations we didn't know we needed 😛 We'll be saving this excellent paper analogy for when we explain things to others. We have at least 2 alters who could be considered the core, so it's a little confusing for us - but that's okay cause things are rarely black and white. We're still puzzling out our host situation, too 😂 Great video as always Daniel, keep it up 👍 -Eryn

  • @destineeneville9707
    @destineeneville9707 5 років тому

    Very well explained!

  • @alltogethermpd278
    @alltogethermpd278 6 років тому

    This is perfect! Thanks guys! I run some DID/OSDD support groups on kid and this is perfect for helping to explain that common misconception!

  • @lesqueech
    @lesqueech 2 роки тому

    Thank you so much this has been so helpful! I am just in the beginning stages of finding out about my own system and was very curious about co-hosting as I feel like there are 2 hosts in my system but I've never seen anyone else mention this! You guys have such a down to earth way of explaining things that is incredibly helpful!

  • @sarahareina4257
    @sarahareina4257 5 років тому

    Really excellent analogy

  • @gwengwen3769
    @gwengwen3769 6 років тому

    You can always learn something new at 12:21 am before school in the morning 😂😂 I really appreciate the videos all of you make, i had no knowledge of anything really about DID up until a few weekends ago and I binged all of the channel's videos 😂

    • @gwengwen3769
      @gwengwen3769 6 років тому

      I love talking about things I learned about that i find so interesting and new to me and so vocab videos like these help sooooo much 😁😁♡

  • @blazing_orchids
    @blazing_orchids 6 років тому

    You just put into words all the stuff we've been trying to get straight in our system. Your analogy really helped us understand our system better. Thanks! -Matty

  • @neverknewmasquerade6929
    @neverknewmasquerade6929 6 років тому

    Brilliantly said, Daniel.

  • @starpoint7733
    @starpoint7733 6 років тому

    this actually helped me to understand myself more. i am not made of extra bits. in time i can become what i was before. i love how u explained this so much. thank you daniel

  • @aubreecruikshank4926
    @aubreecruikshank4926 6 років тому

    that was so well explained thank you :)

  • @kels655
    @kels655 5 років тому

    That analogy is really helpful to me, I think I understand what you are saying

  • @SinaloDlanga
    @SinaloDlanga 4 роки тому

    Brilliant ☺️

  • @joannmedors2939
    @joannmedors2939 5 років тому

    Whoa... This explains it so well to me. I wondered as well who was the "original". You did a great job explaining this and helping people understand there isn't one

  • @FrkVildkat
    @FrkVildkat 6 років тому

    That was a very good way to describe it :)