Why Do We Love The Cave Lion?

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  • Опубліковано 29 бер 2024
  • Today, we look at the Cave Lion. A newer battlemech created by Clan Nova Cat in their last few decades of existence.
    Cave Lion MF Record Sheet: www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/qorvo2...
    References: TRO Dark Age, Wars of the Republic, Tactical Operations, Shrapnel #12,
    Thank you to Dwane Loose, Anthony Scroggins, Matt Plog, Bishop Steiner, Flying Debris, Alan Blackwell, Chris Lowry, Dale Eadeh, Harri Kallio, Loston Wallace, and all the other BattleTech artists that have brought the IP to life through their amazing work.
    BattleTech imagery and mech info remains the property of Topps.
    Concept Art from Mechwarrior Online and game art from MW5 is owned by Piranha Games.
    Imagery from HBS BattleTech
    Some imagery/video from Pixabay
    Background Music: Purchased rights to use from Fanatical
    Intro Music: Purchased use rights from Ovani Sound
    #BattleTech #Mechwarrior #CatalystGameLabs #lore
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  • @bthsr7113
    @bthsr7113 Місяць тому +32

    Nova Cat punishes Draconis citizens
    Draconis Government punishes Nova Cats
    Nova Cats: We learned it from you!

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Місяць тому +15

      Never trust the Combine. It almost never works out.

    • @bthsr7113
      @bthsr7113 Місяць тому +8

      @@MechanicalFrog Even if they don't backstab you or start by stabbing you, the warrior elite crazies is a serious problem. And in sometimes different ways from clanner warrior elite crazy.

    • @jtjames79
      @jtjames79 Місяць тому +8

      ​@@bthsr7113 At least you can trust the Capellan Confederation to try to backstab you no matter how stupid the idea is.
      When dealing with the Combine, the juice is never worth the squeeze.

    • @Maezhughes
      @Maezhughes Місяць тому

      Sounds about right honestly

    • @wisecrack4545
      @wisecrack4545 Місяць тому +3

      If nothing else, the Nova Cat leadership should've taken note on how the Azami/Arkab legions were treated. DCMS leadership barely tolerated their existence even after a nearly 600 year alliance by the time the clans rocked up.
      In the early 3070's the Wobbies bombed the Azami homeworlds with asteroids, Combine goes 6 months without sending any emergency aid, so Arkab Legions on deployment pack up and go home to help their citizens recover, Combine responds by sending a full blown warship to threaten them to return to their positions and bombs two of their cities as a 'warning'. Azami nuke the warship and declare independence.
      That whole affair should have been a major wake up call to the Cats over how the Combine really views their 'allies'.

  • @ZacHawkins42
    @ZacHawkins42 Місяць тому +43

    Hey there! I heard you on the BPL podcast and decided to mosey on over to see a video or three. Time well spent; subbed and will be watching more. Thanks for your hard work!

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Місяць тому +12

      Welcome to the fray, Mechwarrior. Thanks a lot for giving the channel a try.

    • @Maezhughes
      @Maezhughes Місяць тому

      That BPL podcast episode was honestly really good

    • @rhysvokes5351
      @rhysvokes5351 Місяць тому

      same here!

    • @raider3charlie515
      @raider3charlie515 Місяць тому

      Same

  • @SHDW-nf2ki
    @SHDW-nf2ki Місяць тому +19

    A clan mech that can punch gooder, spec'd mostly for close combat??
    Will wonders never cease.

    • @Tallus_ap_Mordren
      @Tallus_ap_Mordren Місяць тому +1

      Look up the Jade Hawk, and prepare to be astounded.

    • @bthsr7113
      @bthsr7113 Місяць тому

      @@Tallus_ap_Mordren Ah yes, the DFA SRM shotgun with mean kicks. Nasty thing.

    • @Tallus_ap_Mordren
      @Tallus_ap_Mordren Місяць тому

      @@bthsr7113 close, but no. The TSM/Supercharger double claw thing. So basically a Kontio on steroids, but older.

  • @andyeaton1736
    @andyeaton1736 Місяць тому +5

    My poor Nova Cats got done dirty by the Combine. Would have been nice to have just a fraction of that Wolf plot armor.

  • @BoisegangGaming
    @BoisegangGaming Місяць тому +6

    Clan Nova Cat and Clan Goliath Scorpion honestly just start and end their design processes with "take copious amounts of hard substances".

  • @Prich319
    @Prich319 Місяць тому +14

    Someone needs to tell the Nova Cats that they are not the Kwizatz Hadarach, and that they are not prescient. Hell, just studying the bloody history of the Draconis Combine would have told you that any alliance with the Combine is treacherous at the best of times.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Місяць тому +4

      They're the friend who leaps into every investment scheme that comes along and almost never comes out ahead.

    • @bthsr7113
      @bthsr7113 Місяць тому +1

      @@MechanicalFrog "friend"
      Wait, aren't they also the clank that gets intoxicated to have visions on top of normal clanner rituals?

    • @BoisegangGaming
      @BoisegangGaming Місяць тому

      ​@@MechanicalFrog"I'm telling you, Bored Blakes Yacht Club is going to the moon" - Nova Cat

  • @Gigas0101
    @Gigas0101 Місяць тому +9

    2:30 I heard it as "cave the Nova Cats paws" and I hope other people have as well.
    The history breakdown here made me lament the loss of the Nova Cats, a faction beat up so bad you'd think they were the Capellans.
    Also, I really appreciate how you cover your bases with the MF variants, the anti-infantry/anti-vehicle options are always welcome!

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Місяць тому +2

      Thanks. It's always good to have some anti-Infantry gear around to lay waste to those pesky boots on the ground.

  • @EdmondHiggins
    @EdmondHiggins Місяць тому +5

    Some of those Clickytech mechs really transfer well to Classic and Alpha Strike both, this is one.

  • @BlueSmoke216
    @BlueSmoke216 Місяць тому +6

    This was a mech I saw when I was very new, a Sea Foxes version painted on Camospecs. My tastes have changed, but it's s nice to see it again now with a much better understanding of the lore and the Nova Cats involvement, they have such a tragic story. It really seems like a great Heavy mech - I like a little missle with my lasers - and a great mini to pick up for a more modern game. Thanks for making later tech eras seem fun instead of daunting.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Місяць тому

      I'm glad it has its fans. It's a solid newer pick.

  • @andrewrose3748
    @andrewrose3748 Місяць тому +15

    Thanks for giving the Nova Cats some love. This is a great clan mech.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Місяць тому +5

      Sure thing. Credit where it is due.

    • @bthsr7113
      @bthsr7113 Місяць тому

      @@MechanicalFrog Every clan has at least one design worth using. Love them or hate them, you can't deny they have nice toys.

  • @ursulcx299
    @ursulcx299 Місяць тому +8

    I dunno if that mech is good or not, but man it looks cool af, pretty much how I imagine clan mechs to be, still getting that more rugged/industrial aesthetic BT has but also more sleek, more animalistic and closer to the game's original inspirations of Mecha Anime.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Місяць тому +2

      It's an understated totem, and that's what I like.

    • @anselmoffrisia2930
      @anselmoffrisia2930 Місяць тому

      Understated, just like the Balius.

    • @bthsr7113
      @bthsr7113 Місяць тому

      @@anselmoffrisia2930 While I am a sucker for quad mechs and totem mechs, there is no fair way to call that thing understated. Thunder Stallion is understated for a horse totem though.

  • @adherentofladycolumbia725
    @adherentofladycolumbia725 Місяць тому +15

    SCREW THE CONTINUITY*SLAPS ON SYMBOL* ITS A DECEPTICON NOW!

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Місяць тому +8

      **Angry transformer noises**

    • @Gigas0101
      @Gigas0101 Місяць тому +2

      All LAM force with decepticon symbols?

    • @bthsr7113
      @bthsr7113 Місяць тому

      @@Gigas0101 Call forth the Seeker colors!

    • @BoisegangGaming
      @BoisegangGaming Місяць тому +2

      ​@@Gigas0101An entire LAM force painted up in the Seekers colors would be awesome to see.
      Especially if the leader of a force gets taken out and the Starscream-painted one shrieks "MEGATRON HAS FALLEN! I, STARSCREAM, AM THE NEW LEADER OF THE DECEPTICONS!"

  • @sim.frischh9781
    @sim.frischh9781 Місяць тому +8

    Seriously, the Nova Cats seem like a study in how often a faction can bet on the wrong horse before going pretty much extinct.
    But the Cave Lion seems like a good machine, it might use expensive tech, but it´s low dependence on ammo makes it an enduring fighter in long campaigns.
    It´s mobile for its weight class, jump jets would be nice but you can´t have everything at once.
    MF version seems so humble compared to your usual takes, but i like it.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Місяць тому +2

      Reminds me of a friend who always seems to lose money on investments.

    • @sim.frischh9781
      @sim.frischh9781 Місяць тому +3

      @@MechanicalFrogYeah, pretty much XD
      Poor friend of yours...
      But seriously, the Nova Cats seemed like such an iteresting faction, shame it ended in such a horrifying way.

    • @ursulcx299
      @ursulcx299 Місяць тому +2

      @@sim.frischh9781 Just the fact they out of all the clans, only they suddenly had a "wait, are we the baddies?" moment and switched side was something I found great a bout them. Even clan mary-stu didnt openly switch side and their wardens remained self serving.

    • @sim.frischh9781
      @sim.frischh9781 Місяць тому +3

      @@ursulcx299 I liked how they were a more spiritual kind as a whole without becoming junkies like the Goliath Scorpions.

    • @milankostic2571
      @milankostic2571 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@ursulcx299 Quite a few Clans never invaded the Inner Sphere in the first place, Nova Cats only switched sides when they got stomped by Kuritans of all people... And then they chose to side with those same Kuritans of all people against their own kind. While their ultimate fate is a bit harsh Nova Cats should not protest too much in light of their numerous previous actions. They were not the good guys. Good guys do not cooperate with Smoke Jaguars and they most definitely do not cooperate with Draconis Combine.

  • @tmorton42
    @tmorton42 Місяць тому +6

    Good video, as always.
    The clan I've painted are the nova/spirit cats. I think it is hilarious that the clan has visions that invariably lead them (led them?) Into exactly the wrong thing to do.
    😂

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Місяць тому +3

      This is why you don't make important decisions while inebriated.

    • @tmorton42
      @tmorton42 Місяць тому +1

      @@MechanicalFrog 😆

  • @bthsr7113
    @bthsr7113 Місяць тому +4

    Nice. Very nice. Aside from being difficult to maintain.
    From point blank to 23 hexes, this cat has something for everyone... even if I'd personally pull the ATM3.

  • @cale42
    @cale42 Місяць тому +7

    I've used the cave lion. It's something I stumbled upon in the era reports of the Dark Age and found it distinctive looking enough to use in a homebrew force as the faction leader's personal ride.
    The reflective armor makes it a nightmare for mechs with energy loadouts to deal with, and it's weapon selection has just ripped apart even foes above it's weight bracket. I think the big issue I have with it is the battlefists coupled with the reflective armor. The temptation to Melee must be avoided. That and this thing is expensive as all hell to fix should it get roughed up in a battle. Which, as I'm using it in a campaign, is a problem.
    The other issue i've had with it came with the Ironwind model not having a proper torso. I had to fabricate my own. Meaning my model does not have visible ATMs.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Місяць тому +3

      I suppose the battlefists are there as insurance to hopefully make any physical interaction as brief as possible.

    • @cale42
      @cale42 Місяць тому +1

      @@MechanicalFrogIt probably helps also with the Distracting quirk's intimidation factor.

  • @JohnDoe-oh7gf
    @JohnDoe-oh7gf Місяць тому +1

    Never seen this one in the lore or on the table. But am a big fan of any mech that resembles a beast. The kodiak being a prime example of awesome art. Cheers

  • @andersalbertsson215
    @andersalbertsson215 Місяць тому +10

    Smol, energy based Kodiak

  • @fedupN
    @fedupN Місяць тому +3

    Love me the Nova Cats. So much of the good ideas go wrong. Why yes, we will move into the Inner Sphere like the others. Heck, we are even backing the Star League! This SHOULD work fine. Oh wait, is that the Author's Hammer coming down? Awww nuts.
    But yeah. I like this mech, but the claws + reflective armor + ATM makes me tilt the head. Remove the ATMs and claws, be a long range ambushy death dealer that doesn't need ammo. There, go. OR ditch reflective armor and maybe the ATMs and now you can brawl too.
    The MF Model is pretty rad too.

  • @Yacovo
    @Yacovo Місяць тому +1

    Really missed the chance to name it the Cave Cougar for some alliteration. Thanks for the video.

  • @eezaak21
    @eezaak21 Місяць тому +1

    That is a cool looking mech. Really hoping we get a videogame set in the il-clan era. All the chaos from the Wolves and Falcons racing to Terra would be the perfecting setting for a mercenary game.

  • @ImSamsquanch
    @ImSamsquanch Місяць тому +2

    This is a pleasant surprise, the Cave Lion is special for me as it is the first battlemech I commanded in a pick up game of ClickTech years ago. It's a real beast of a battlemech whether in Classic or Alpha Strike and has a great IWM mini. A bit of good news for the Nova Cats/ Spirit Cats is they are still existing and currently running the Clan Protectorate though old habits die hard as they've put themselves between FWL Remnants and the Ilclan.

  • @Richy0326
    @Richy0326 Місяць тому +2

    Reflective armour - for the discerning mechwarrior who moonlights as a disco ball.
    I have to admit I've re-assessed my previous position on the newer armour types after recently realizing I'd misunderstood the rules on Hardened Armour. Now I have an Atlas with 32 tons of hardened armour to play with, which is nice.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Місяць тому +1

      Once you wrap your brain around the rules, they're a neat option.

  • @laggybum3218
    @laggybum3218 Місяць тому +1

    I would LOVE to see this mech in MWO!! Those high mounts for the large weapons would do well! Now we just need to see about adding jump jets... I absolutely love the look of this mech! I saw it and immediately thought it was a lighter version of the Kodiak.

  • @georgesulea
    @georgesulea Місяць тому +5

    Neat! Have not read about this one! Thanks MF, and Happy Easter!

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Місяць тому +1

      Hope you enjoyed it. Have a great weekend.

  • @observationsfromthebunker9639
    @observationsfromthebunker9639 Місяць тому +1

    I don't remember this one showing up in the Spirit Cats lineup back in the clickytech days. Maybe it showed up after I stopped playing. Anyways I liked it; definitely a great 'mech for the DA fights, as there's plenty of firepower at any range, and the reflective armor can be really useful. And the pilot can punch things effectively! It looks badass too, which doesn't hurt at all. I suppose you liked the 'mech as is a lot, since your version changed little in terms of actual effect. I also liked your lore dump on the Nova Cats, who really had a sad existence. But it does seem to explain why Kev Ross has no problem sending his Spirit Cats against the Swordsworn later on.

  • @freeranger00
    @freeranger00 Місяць тому +1

    Another example of Clan-built Battlemechs that shows how superfluous the omnis are. I find the combination of reflective armor and battlefists kind of weird, but it is a nice option to have with all of those pulse lasers.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Місяць тому

      Better to have them and not need them, than need them and not have them. :D

  • @michaelpfister1283
    @michaelpfister1283 Місяць тому +2

    This is the first time I’ve seen this machine. I like it. I will have to give this one a try.

  • @sebastiang.5032
    @sebastiang.5032 Місяць тому +3

    Wow, that's a Mech I've never heard of before! Thanks! 🎉😊

  • @stormcrow28
    @stormcrow28 Місяць тому +4

    A great mech now serving multiple masters. Some of the Nova Cat touman also ended up joining the Republic of the Sphere, and we know that turned out. Only in Marik space does the Nova Cat/Spirit Cat touman really survive. The Cave Lion is a great unit to pair up with the Nova Cats other energy focused units like the Supernova, Nova Cat or Sphinx

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Місяць тому +2

      Yeh maybe the remnants can find a little planet somewhere in the Periphery where they can live in peace.

    • @stormcrow28
      @stormcrow28 Місяць тому

      @@MechanicalFrog Nah The Cats are solidly embedded on Marik now and serve as literal catspaws for Clan Sea Fox.

  • @ZacharyChristy-Aronson-wg5ki
    @ZacharyChristy-Aronson-wg5ki Місяць тому +2

    Thanks for pointing the light at this one. I love it. But I often start with style over substance and then hope to correct on the fly with salvage over the course of a campaign.

  • @chrisbritt4266
    @chrisbritt4266 Місяць тому +2

    I will always support the Nova Cats no matter what. Nova Cats for life!

  • @scytheseven9173
    @scytheseven9173 Місяць тому +4

    the Word of Blake "kerfuffle" gave the Nova Cats paws? but i thought they already had those!

  • @legionaryareulious4318
    @legionaryareulious4318 Місяць тому +2

    Why do i love a mech i didnt even know existed before this.

  • @misriaharmory3884
    @misriaharmory3884 Місяць тому +1

    Finally got to run this mech today. Painted it a long time ago and finally was able to use it and it produced very well! I love the look of this mech and I only like it more because of today.

  • @ophiuchus3252
    @ophiuchus3252 Місяць тому +1

    I see you noticed I haven't watched a mechfrog video in a while.. and here you are tempeting me back with the totem mech for my tragic Nova Cats.
    Well played sir..
    Great video!

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Місяць тому +1

      I assumed you were kidnapped for ransom by a gang of penguins who brought you to Chile where you ended up falling for one of your captors and started a new family/life.

    • @ophiuchus3252
      @ophiuchus3252 Місяць тому +1

      @@MechanicalFrog love is strange and mysterious as a Nova Cat Vision.. I'm not sure what's more beautiful the Santiago skyline or the Andes peaks.

  • @memph1ston
    @memph1ston Місяць тому +1

    Found you through the algorithm. You've got a voice for radio and some great witticisms - keep it up! Subbed.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you for giving the vid a go. The nonsense must flow.

  • @richardvaldes3959
    @richardvaldes3959 Місяць тому +3

    As a 40k fan. Big fan of the super big pauldrons because reasons!

  • @haileysaint5443
    @haileysaint5443 Місяць тому +1

    I was somewhat familiar with the Cave Lion prior to this video, thanks to the MechWarrior Clix game, but I did enjoy it very much. I also have 2 variants of the Cave Lion myself.
    Big surprise there.
    The Cave Lion ISM only changes the loadout of the original (canon) Cave Lion; it still retains the Laser Reflective armor, 17 DHS, and of course all of the other structural bits. For weapons and gear, it mounts an IS Large Re-Engineered Laser in each side torso, backed up by a pair of Medium Pulse Lasers in each arm; it mounts a Light Active Probe to find pesky enemies that are dishonorable enough to hide, and a Laser Anti Missile System to deal with, well, missiles - although I don't think it would protect against Arrow IVs.
    The Cave Lion ISM 2, my second variant, goes a different route. It drops the Laser Reflective armor for more conventional Ferro-Fibrous, while losing a half-ton of it. The standard Clan myomer was replaced with IS Triple-Strength Myomer, with an engine supercharger also being added. Its DHS dropped from 17 to 12, and 3 Jump Jets were added for mobility. This variant is intended for close quarters combat, so its only ranged weapons are a pair of Large Pulse Lasers - one to each side torso location - and a pair of Medium Pulse Lasers in the CT. The primary focus of the design are the claws mounted on each arm; the Jump Jets, TSM, and supercharger are all intended to get it in close as quickly as possible, with the pulse lasers intended to, as mentioned before, provide both ranged attacks as well as bringing the heat up to engage the TSM. So it's movement is now 5[6]/8[12]/3. Have fun with it.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Місяць тому +1

      That TSM and supercharger are an interesting route. Fierce Cave Lion there.

  • @meining-mech4378
    @meining-mech4378 Місяць тому +3

    Interesting! I knew of the Cave Lion from when Mechwarrior AOD was introduced. I thought of having one for a Spirit Cat force eventually. It may not be my favorite aesthetically, unlike the Ocelot or even the Wendigo, but I like that it didnt entirely enter Zoids territory with its look.

  • @franksmedley8619
    @franksmedley8619 Місяць тому +2

    Hello Frog.
    Yet another fine video, my friend. Consider your MF variant 'yoinked'. It is VERY similar to my own variant. The difference being that kept the pair of PPCs and all the pulse lasers. I dropped the MML and ammo in favor of 2 AP Gauss rifles and a ton of ammo, and the rest was shoved into more armor. A total of 13.5 tons of the Reflective armor.
    I am thinking of copying your variant, but using Ferro Fiberous Armor instead of the Reflective.
    In any case, keep on making videos... you are adding to my stable of Mechs with all these Mech Frog variants.

  • @Dang_Near_Fed_Up
    @Dang_Near_Fed_Up Місяць тому +1

    Looks interesting, I'll give it a shot once the timeline advances enough in our current campaign (assuming I can gain access and have the C-Bills / BV).

  • @jamesbeard5513
    @jamesbeard5513 Місяць тому +4

    Nova Cat always got the short end of the stick with the Combine, being blamed for the political and military actions of the Black Dragon conservative group. Outside of the Combine, it was actually acknowledged that the Draconis Combine was the one ultimately responsible for the Second Combine-Dominion War.
    The Nova Cats, shortly after the Kerfuffle, tried to join the Republic of the Sphere in mass, but Hohiro was dead set against it as their forces were needed as a defense against Ghost Bear. While Stone fought, and won, a Trial to prevent all of Clan Nova Cat from joining, two Galaxies of their best did join the Republic. Had the Nova Cats been allowed to join the Republic, the Second Combine-Dominion War wouldn't have happened and the Republic of the Sphere might have been in a stronger position to fight off the oncoming forces from within and without.
    Of course, if they had the Nova Cats staying together in the Combine, they may have had a better chance to hold off the Dominion and the Combine later on.

  • @MegaduceFlare
    @MegaduceFlare 16 днів тому +1

    Now we just need a 25 ton "boom box" 'mech to "complete the set" along with the Hunch IIC, Cave Lion, and Kodiak 3.
    Unless there already is one and I just missed it. I'm not really familiar with much in the License-to-IlClan era, or really anything past the FedCom breakup.

  • @SpaceMarine4040
    @SpaceMarine4040 Місяць тому +3

    with a name like Cave Lion, I wonder when we will see something like Cave Bear or Short Faced Bear from clan Ghost Bear.
    as for the final point abount getting players introduced to later eras, honestly what causes me to give later points in the time line a look is what the latest model year of my favorite mechs brings, for instance what bells and whistles does a 3150 Marauder, Warhammer, Phoenix Hawk have? Stealth armor, plasma rifles, silver bullet, and other goodies on familiar mechs to properly equip them for the latest age of warfare truly interest me.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Місяць тому +1

      Lots of gems out there for the courageous gamer.

    • @SpaceMarine4040
      @SpaceMarine4040 Місяць тому

      @@MechanicalFrog As I don't play tabletop, where would I encounter them?

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Місяць тому

      The newer technical readouts, I suppose.

  • @WolfHreda
    @WolfHreda Місяць тому +3

    3:42 Oh, _NOW_ it's not cool to shoot at protesters. OK, Kurita. I got you.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Місяць тому +1

      Yeah some very selective outrage there by the Combine propaganda machine.

  • @Takenmynameandmycat
    @Takenmynameandmycat Місяць тому +1

    Friendly reminder that storyline event results were binding for story, up until they weren't....

  • @covahredro8370
    @covahredro8370 Місяць тому +1

    Definitely going into my favorite looking mechs category

  • @kierdalemodels
    @kierdalemodels Місяць тому +1

    👍Excellent stuff. I’ve already got the Cave Lion on my IWM shopping list, for my FWL forces.

  • @lukedudley5030
    @lukedudley5030 Місяць тому +1

    Another fun watch of a mech ive never used :-) im one of the ludites stuck at the clan invasion era lol...we have used some of the more modern stuff but too rarely to have much knowledge of the combat assets available :-)

  • @joshuaaxford516
    @joshuaaxford516 Місяць тому +3

    Could've done without the reminder of Clan Nova Cat's destruction. It's enough of a black mark against Battletech that the writers chose that direction.
    But as always, a good video. Shame there are not more variants.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Місяць тому +1

      Too soon? Too soon...

    • @joshuaaxford516
      @joshuaaxford516 Місяць тому +2

      @@MechanicalFrog it will probably always be too soon, but not much I can do about it

  • @adamthompson626
    @adamthompson626 Місяць тому +2

    Love the high hard point ppcs and melee capability. Hate the over complicated legs that are going to be a nightmare to repair and have more moving parts to break.

  • @radwolf76
    @radwolf76 Місяць тому +2

    Now I want someone to take all of J.K. Simmons' lines from the Portal series and with clever editing, dub them over his Zootopia character.

  • @jeremysaklad6703
    @jeremysaklad6703 23 дні тому +1

    You left out the most serious drawback of Reflective Armor: area-of-effect damage, like that of bombs and artillery, is doubled. That makes it a very dangerous choice on larger designs.

  • @Bomfunker91
    @Bomfunker91 Місяць тому +1

    While I can't fault their aspirations, leave it to a Clan to look at a faltering industrial base and diminishing resources, and go "Make us the most expensive, advanced and repair-intensive mech you can muster."

  • @wisecrack4545
    @wisecrack4545 Місяць тому +1

    The Cave Lion, because somehow the Sphinx wasn't punchy or energy efficient enough.......
    It's sadly disappointing that the Cat's Xi galaxy didn't survive long enough to see this mech - I can fully picture them combining that reflective armour with some laser heat sinks stolen from the Falcons and rounding it out with their infamously bright neon colored acid trip of a camo scheme, then strolling around the battlefield with a star of these in full Disco mode.

  • @madcat3525
    @madcat3525 Місяць тому +1

    Great video! Looking forward to more videos.

  • @eltoxicdog7587
    @eltoxicdog7587 Місяць тому +2

    (read in pops voice from regular show) Oooooooooooooooooooooh! What fun!

  • @irishijo1
    @irishijo1 Місяць тому +3

    The dreaded enemy. Never shall I forgive Clan Nova Cat for their desecration of Irece, and for their razing of LexaTech! Death before dishonor! Death before defeat!
    In all seriousness, this looks almost like the Konito at home. Not terrible, but c'mon. Konito is love, Konito is life

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Місяць тому +1

      Let's just get one of each.

    • @irishijo1
      @irishijo1 Місяць тому

      I'll settle for a Star of each, sure.

  • @scytheseven9173
    @scytheseven9173 Місяць тому +3

    the ATM-3 with 2 tons of ammo is painful to see on this, that's a lot of potential explosions to you compared to your enemies

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Місяць тому +2

      Yeah I knew I was going to pull it for the MF at first glance.

    • @elwant
      @elwant Місяць тому +3

      As part of the deals that got it made, the Sea Foxes forced the addition of the ATM-3 so they could show off their ATM production.

    • @bthsr7113
      @bthsr7113 Місяць тому

      @@elwant Yeah, it was a poor choice. While I see potential reason for why you'd want to avoid an all energy build in case your enemy is also running reflective armor, I feel like two tons of AP SRM and a half ton of smoke (to disengage) feeding an SRM 4 would work better.

  • @jeremysaklad6703
    @jeremysaklad6703 23 дні тому +1

    “Distracting” is a positive quirk, not a negative one.

  • @ambientlight3876
    @ambientlight3876 Місяць тому +1

    I wonder why both the Sphinx and Cave Lion were both produced as they are both similar designs, focusing on energy based weapons. Both seemed to supplement the Nova Cat Omnimech.
    As for Sea Fox I'd be surprised if they continue producing the design, especially when they have the likes of the Savage Wolf.
    Personally, I like the machine, and I've played it on the Clix table top game.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Місяць тому +1

      I'd like to see the Rasalhague Dominion pick it up. It's a good one.

  • @ShagShaggio
    @ShagShaggio Місяць тому +1

    Cheers!

  • @brothersgt.grauwolff6716
    @brothersgt.grauwolff6716 Місяць тому +1

    I remember the Cave Lion from the Clix game nice model bad game can't wait to see how it comes out in the Catalyst game

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Місяць тому

      It has a little bit of the Cerberus vibe to it and I like that.

  • @loreman2803
    @loreman2803 Місяць тому +1

    Its been great to see you grow and continue to grow, with your appearance on the podcasts i can only imagine it getting better

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Місяць тому +1

      I just feel very lucky to be doing this. Thank you for the continued support.

  • @wantedgmproductions5894
    @wantedgmproductions5894 Місяць тому +2

    3 AP gauss rifles, because it wouldn't be a mech frog variant if it didn't have some infantry hate😂

  • @jasonfarley9025
    @jasonfarley9025 Місяць тому +2

    I am loving this
    And there's no better stories than Clan vs Draconis Combine stories, because everyone who dies deserves it thoroughly
    It's like war of the war crimes up in here

    • @harbingerx7793
      @harbingerx7793 Місяць тому

      Heard about this mech from RogueTech mod. Thank you for covering it. Pretty cool concept.

  • @MAD-5D-DC
    @MAD-5D-DC Місяць тому +1

    Another outstanding video! Can you make a playlist with your book reviews? I made the mistake of buying two of Blaine Lee Pardoe's "books".

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Місяць тому +3

      I don't think I've done very many novel reviews. I'm pretty forgiving and may be not the greatest critic. However, Hour of the Wolf should have been three novels, one written from each POV. Malvina/Alaric/Devlin

    • @jasonfarley9025
      @jasonfarley9025 Місяць тому +1

      Yeah, I have loved all of Pardoe's stories
      Keep in mind he wasn't the one making decisions over how much to cover
      And scope has been the real issue most people have raised with his recent books

  • @mathewkelly9968
    @mathewkelly9968 Місяць тому +2

    Because Nova Cats !!! honestly though prefer the Sphinx , this is a little hefty on the BV for my liking

  • @krissteel4074
    @krissteel4074 Місяць тому +1

    I'd not heard of it, its a fairly blasty monster in stock form though and fast enough to cause a panic if they overload a flank with them coming in

  • @tehpw7574
    @tehpw7574 Місяць тому +2

    likely extinct, because of the difficulty maintaining it. As for the Nova Cats? I'm convinced someone threw a bunch of names in a hat, drew out which factions dies and when about figuring out HOW... Nice Writeup, however, sir.

  • @LezzyMania_02
    @LezzyMania_02 Місяць тому +1

    Can you cover up the Fireball Mech?

  • @TheStraycat74
    @TheStraycat74 Місяць тому +1

    3122 is WAY after I stopped playing, so I had to look up the AP gauss rifles. basically it's an MG with longer range and 50% more damage... Cool. but I don;t think I like the reflactive armor. I mean if you know your OpFor is mostly/exclusively energy, then yeah I can see that. but clanners use too many missiles and ac's for it to be a comfortable gamble

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Місяць тому +2

      It's really an extension of the rock/paper/scissors dynamic of the game itself.

  • @omegavulture8379
    @omegavulture8379 Місяць тому +1

    Because it’s just grrrrrrreat!

  • @youtmeme
    @youtmeme Місяць тому +2

    12:25 while the future of clan nova cat is in doubt...i hope the cave lion persists.. 🤔😒😒 dark frog. dark.😬😳

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Місяць тому

      If Smoke Jaguar can return, any clan can.

  • @Dokdiamant
    @Dokdiamant Місяць тому +1

    Wow, A MechFrog Variant of a Mech without PlasCas... Sometimes Wonders really happens. xD

  • @smc4229
    @smc4229 Місяць тому +1

    @13:05 I feel seen

  • @user-cp4ku4gs7q
    @user-cp4ku4gs7q Місяць тому +1

    New to me ty

  • @defiantmechwarrior2397
    @defiantmechwarrior2397 Місяць тому +1

    The only change I'd make is basically like yours but drop a mp for a super charger.

  • @gregdomenico1891
    @gregdomenico1891 Місяць тому +1

    Did you ever get the feeling that CGL is gradually phasing out the Clans? Not many of them left. And quite a few that are, ain't in very good shape

    • @bthsr7113
      @bthsr7113 Місяць тому +2

      I hope not. I feel like they still add more than they detract... but the wolf does need a bloody nose and heavy limp to knock some sense into them.

    • @gregdomenico1891
      @gregdomenico1891 Місяць тому

      @bthsr7113 I don't want to see it happen either, but it's not looking good.
      And the Wolf Empire is taking a beating. Hell, even the remnants of House Marik are joining together to beat up on them.
      As for the rest of the Clans in the IS? I think only Sea Fox is doing fine, and that's only because everyone wants their weapons.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Місяць тому +2

      I think that over time, there will be less and less difference between IS and Clan as technologies and cultures converge and interact.

    • @bthsr7113
      @bthsr7113 Місяць тому

      @@MechanicalFrog THAT I'm cool with... Though someone should recon the Kerensky Cluster with warship escorts to see if they've destroyed themselves with their "True Nicholas Kerensky hasn't been tried yet" or if they've managed to achieve greater feats of technology at greater human cost of the other castes who are secretly making plans to assert themselves.

  • @ero9841
    @ero9841 Місяць тому +1

    I dont hate this mech legs are little skinny. loadout wise its not bad at all.

  • @sep0319
    @sep0319 Місяць тому +1

    Where's the Kanazuchi?

  • @randyslater199
    @randyslater199 Місяць тому +1

    ROAR!!!....ribbit

  • @riptors9777
    @riptors9777 Місяць тому +1

    Oh look, another clan mech with claws... that will never get used by said clanners because melee combat is dishonorable XD
    The cave lion is a decently hard hitting no nonsense bread and butter clan design that was build for longer lasting engagements.
    As mentioned in the vid this machine is available to wealthy mercenary units through clan sea fox, wich also saved it from becomming extinct i guess, and has the "difficult to maintain" quirk.. so expect your mechtechs to be very agitated when working on this one.
    Personaly im not a big fan of reflective armor. Taking 40 points of damage from a UAC/10 is no joke and thats a weapon system thats widely available at that point in time, a time mind you where gauss rifles are everywhere, not to mention all the diferent kinds of missle launchers.
    If a 100 years old javelin can rip you to shreds with its twin SRM launchers by possibly causing whooping 48 points of damage per salvo you gotta ask yourself if its really worth it. Not to mention reflective armor can be hard to impossible to come by in the field so you will have to lug around an ample amount of tonnage just for that.
    So the Cave lion, a last Gasp of the doomed novacats.. i guess drug fueled "visions" make for bad advise afterall eh?

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Місяць тому +1

      By the late 3060s, most of the Clans had given up on the whole melee is dishonorable thing. The Falcons really embraced it.

    • @riptors9777
      @riptors9777 Місяць тому +1

      @@MechanicalFrog Hah.. so you can teach a clanner new tricks afterall

  • @leonasmith6180
    @leonasmith6180 Місяць тому +2

    Do a vid on the Lioness, every one knows girlies are way better than boyies. Have a nice day Leona. PS thanks again

  • @healthyfire
    @healthyfire Місяць тому +1

    ribbit

  • @wraith7989
    @wraith7989 Місяць тому +6

    An entire clan wiped out. Sounds to me like the Combine is already making the world a better place.

    • @Kepora1
      @Kepora1 Місяць тому +2

      But they actively undo any good they did by still existing.

    • @bthsr7113
      @bthsr7113 Місяць тому

      @@Kepora1 Also the New Avalon Catholic Church getting.... you know. THAT is going to bite them in the tail, mark my words. Catholics can get plenty crazy without tangible justification, let alone an actual causus beli.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Місяць тому +2

      Har har.

    • @loreman2803
      @loreman2803 Місяць тому

      Thats 1 Broken and 1 gone, Combine is tallying up

    • @milankostic2571
      @milankostic2571 Місяць тому

      ​​@@loreman2803Smoke Jaguars were defeated by FedCom and Second Star League not by Combine. And Nova Cats were so weak Tortuga Dominion would have stomped them out of existence. In military terms the Combine is oversized joke. Luthien had to be saved by mercenaries hired by Feds, humiliation is beyond description

  • @Primearch-GG
    @Primearch-GG Місяць тому +1

    Looks cool but feels like a knock-off voltron...

  • @Kepora1
    @Kepora1 Місяць тому

    >"kerfuffle"
    I love ya man, but *dislike.* I love your videos, but that's horribly crinfy and annoying.
    Please, just call things what they are.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Місяць тому +4

      I cannot help that the UA-cam algorithm will punish the video if I use that term. Do you want me to use it out of spite and have the channel suffer?

    • @Kepora1
      @Kepora1 Місяць тому

      @@MechanicalFrog other Battlwtech youtubers use it all the time and I see no negative impacts, their videos are still recommended and have ads. Self censorship is cringe either way, do your part to stand up to the Blakists.

    • @jasonfarley9025
      @jasonfarley9025 Місяць тому

      Yeah, MF's "kerfuffle" is used more by other users than the original term
      And no major BT UA-camr uses "the J word"