Best pre emergent. Crabgrass control with pre emergent herbicide. DIY How to choose the right Pre M
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- Best pre emergent. Crabgrass control with pre emergent herbicide. DIY How to choose the right Pre M
Products Used in Today's Video
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Herbicide
🛒 Tenacity (Crabgrass and annual grass control)
Amazon (PAID LINK): amzn.to/2L9xzP0
Domyown (PAID LINK): tinyurl.com/y2go983a
Lawn Pre-Emergents
🛒 Dithiopyr 40 WSB (wettable Granular pre-emergent for sprayers)
Amazon (PAID LINK): tinyurl.com/1xdehpwh
Domyown (PAID LINK): tinyurl.com/16zqqdpt
🛒 Dithiopyr 2L (Liquid pre-emergent for sprayers)
Amazon (PAID LINK): tinyurl.com/1wsuwlva
Domyown (PAID LINK): tinyurl.com/1510q71i
🛒 Prodiamine 65 WDG (wettable Granular pre-emergent for sprayers)
Amazon (PAID LINK): tinyurl.com/2ap8o5f4
Domyown (PAID LINK): tinyurl.com/mjx5wlgb
🛒 Isoxaben 75 WG Pre Emergent
Amazon (PAID LINK): tinyurl.com/dz9snnua
Domyown (PAID LINK): tinyurl.com/co7flc9w
🛒 Hi-Yield Crabgrass Preventer Granular
Amazon (PAID LINK): tinyurl.com/ww2lw3kz
Domyown (PAID LINK): tinyurl.com/ucqfsxba
Pendulum 2g (will stain, keep it on the grass)
Amazon (PAID LINK): tinyurl.com/f8qgcnyz
Domyown (PAID LINK): tinyurl.com/6k37x6cp
🛒 HJ Prodiamine Crabgrass Control
Domyown (PAID LINK): tinyurl.com/ndrdrfl3
Garden Pre-Emergent
Snapshot 2.5 TG Granular Pre emergent (not for lawns, great for garden use)
Domyown (PAID LINK): tinyurl.com/3z8qpazb
Amazon (PAID LINK): tinyurl.com/lsp88huh
Ginja’s Favorite Lawn Products
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Fertilizer
🛒 Propeat Fertilizer
(Home Depot): tinyurl.com/vfmrs480
Yard Equipment
🛒 Sun Joe Scarifier and dethatcher (REQUIRES 12Gaugae Extension Cord)
Amazon (PAID LINK): amzn.to/2MPTHQG
🛒 12gauge 100ft extension cord
Amazon (PAID LINK): amzn.to/2MQ7hn3
🛒 Thatch Rake
Amazon (PAID LINK): tinyurl.com/rimz6luc
🛒 Spyker hand held spreader
Amazon (PAID LINK): amzn.to/3jAMP6V
🛒 Thermometer (Taylor digital thermometer)
Amazon (PAID LINK): amzn.to/30fvZ7v
🛒 FlowZone Typhoon 2V
Amazon (PAID LINK): amzn.to/3rH6ncR
DoMyOwn (PAID LINK): tinyurl.com/423najqv
🛒 FlowZone Storm Backpack Sprayer
Amazon (PAID LINK): amzn.to/3aTOeSt
DoMyOwn (PAID LINK): tinyurl.com/53g8qmog
🛒 Solo Handheld Sprayer 2 Gallon w/ fan nozzle
Amazon (PAID LINK): amzn.to/2O2ApHy
With so many choices on the market it gets difficult picking the right product. Most of us choose a product that is rated for crabgrass control.
The Ginja categorizes pre emergents into three categories.
Group 1 - General Pre emergents with Anti-rooting technology
* Prodiamine
* Isoxaben
* Combined products with Trifluralin (used in preen, prevents rhizome shoots from grass) and Isoxaben (snapshot)
Group 2 - General Pre emergent with anti-rooting and post emergent control for crabgrass
* Dithiopyr
Dithiopyr will control crabgrass up to the 3 leaf stage making dithiopyr a valuable spray. The marketing is a little deceiving. Although it does act as a post emergent spray up to the 3 leaf stage for crabgrass and some winter annuals it does not provide any other post emergent services for weeds post germination.
Dithiopyr has excellent anti-rooting properties. It permeates into clay very well. I find it doesn't work as well as an over winter product because of the permeability and I don't recommend it for sandy soils.
Group 3 - General Pre emergent with anti-rooting and post emergent control for annual and biennial weeds
* pendimethalin - excellent anti-rooting pre emergent with a post emergent control that kills simple broadleafs. the kicker is the post emergent control disrupts stems of annuals and biennial weeds before they leaf making this a very valuable tool for people with annual and biennial broadleaf weed issues. Sprays are far more effective than the granular counterpart for post emergent control. Pendimethalin will stain.
* Mesotrione - Pre emergent properties and a broad list of annual and biennial post emergent weed control. This is a great tool for someone who intends to overseed there lawn. I recommend 2 applications before the overseed. Be sure to pick a warm season or cool season grass that's on the label that won't be effected by the product.
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Pendimethalin has a tendency to STAIN. Also note the post emergent control for pendimethalin 2G states "pendulum 2g controls weeds as they germinate but will not control established weeds. Therefore, areas to be treated should be free of established weeds. For the control of established weeds, pendulum 2g may be used in conjunction with herbicides registered for postemergence use. See description for more information, as well as the products I used today. If you're looking for the best treatments for your lawn, check out my favorite products:
Fertilizer
🛒 Propeat Fertilizer
(Home Depot): tinyurl.com/vfmrs480
Yard Equipment
🛒 Sun Joe Scarifier and dethatcher (REQUIRES 12Gaugae Extension Cord)
Amazon (PAID LINK): amzn.to/2MPTHQG
🛒 12gauge 100ft extension cord
Amazon (PAID LINK): amzn.to/2MQ7hn3
🛒 Thatch Rake
Amazon (PAID LINK): tinyurl.com/rimz6luc
🛒 Spyker hand held spreader
Amazon (PAID LINK): amzn.to/3jAMP6V
🛒 Levelawn
Amazon (PAID LINK): amzn.to/31Ry6e9
🛒 Rain Gauge 10 pack
Amazon (PAID LINK): amzn.to/3dWEoQU
🛒 Thermometer (Taylor digital thermometer)
Amazon (PAID LINK): amzn.to/30fvZ7v
🛒 FlowZone Typhoon 2V
Amazon (PAID LINK): amzn.to/3rH6ncR
DoMyOwn (PAID LINK): tinyurl.com/423najqv
🛒 FlowZone Storm Backpack Sprayer
Amazon (PAID LINK): amzn.to/3aTOeSt
DoMyOwn (PAID LINK): tinyurl.com/53g8qmog
🛒 Solo Handheld Sprayer 2 Gallon w/ fan nozzle
Amazon (PAID LINK): amzn.to/2O2ApHy
Herbicides for Cool Season Grass
🛒 Speedzone (For hard to kill weeds)
Amazon (PAID LINK): amzn.to/2UkBVpC
Domyown (PAID LINK): tinyurl.com/y3emhy5a
🛒 T-Zone Herbicide (For hard to do weeds)
Amazon (PAID LINK): amzn.to/2ZWLy3L
Domyown (PAID LINK): tinyurl.com/y4tqhy3o
🛒 Tenacity (Crabgrass and annual grass control)
Amazon (PAID LINK): amzn.to/2L9xzP0
Domyown (PAID LINK): tinyurl.com/y2go983a
🛒 Non-ionic Surfactant (to be purchased with Tenacity)
Amazon (PAID LINK): amzn.to/2LduNIk
Domyown (PAID LINK): tinyurl.com/y653upkf
🛒 Methylated Seed Oil Duo Stick (Purchase with quinclorac products like drive xlr8)
Domyown (PAID LINK): tinyurl.com/yxt5q2zo
🛒 Drive XLR8 Quinclorac (annual grass killer / crabgrass killer)
Domyown (PAID LINK): tinyurl.com/48b8jssy
Amazon (PAID LINK): amzn.to/2ZWZI4N
🛒 Quinclorac 1.5L (annual grass killer / crabgrass killer)
Amazon (PAID LINK): amzn.to/31ywx53
Domyown (PAID LINK): tinyurl.com/m48nud7m
Herbicides Warm Season grass types (READ LABEL FOR GRASS TYPE / WEED TARGET)
🛒 Weed Free Zone (general weed killer)
Amazon (PAID LINK): amzn.to/3aPRdeB
Domyown (PAID LINK): tinyurl.com/4tlraqeq
🛒 Dismiss NXT (annual grass killer)
Amazon (PAID LINK): amzn.to/3qbtBaB
Domyown (PAID LINK): tinyurl.com/10xoaovn
🛒 Certainty (annual grass killer/crabgrass killer)
Amazon (PAID LINK): amzn.to/3d0Lt4c
Domyown (PAID LINK): tinyurl.com/14o52u3i
Bug Sprays
🛒 Demand CS (Great to control most pests inside and out)
Amazon (PAID LINK): amzn.to/2muP9Ue
Domyown (PAID LINK): tinyurl.com/v133017a
🛒 Transport mikron (Great for ant control and general pest)
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Domyown (PAID LINK): tinyurl.com/2de4vs6f
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where can I find Dimension in a smaller bottle-all I can find is 1/2 gallon,from the dilution rate something like tbsp/gal this will last me forever
they do that because they don't want home owners buying it at concentrate. the 1/2 gallon is about the smallest you'll get it. they used to do a 32oz jug but I haven't seen it in a while.
Best lawn service videos out there man. Killing it with knowledge
Thank you! Really appreciate all the support
By far the best video I’ve seen on Pre-Emergents. Thank you!
Thanks! Really appreciate you watching and commenting.
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Incredible overview of the active ingredients... I've watched a few of your vids but subbed just because of this one!
Thanks Jamie! Glad to hear you found value
The most detailed and most knowledgeable lawn care video on UA-cam today By far head and shoulders above the rest the lawn GINGA 🎯🌴🌾
Thanks Chapo!! super kind
Honestly one of the best channels I have subbed to on YT. Great work Ginja!
Sam, really appreciate the compliment!!!
WOW Professor Ginja,
Thank you! What an astounding video & presentation of complex info! So much of this is over my head so I will have to listen to this 2 or 3 more times and take notes.
Just outstanding!!!
V/r,
Eric
Thanks for watching Eric. You'll get it! Takes a little time to figure out all the vocabulary
STOKED!!! very informative and definitely cleared up my confusion. I just put down a granular with dithiopyr about a month ago. I need to wait a few more weeks before I overseed.
Perfect!
Glad to see the informational content back on the channel.
LOL common....... I know you love the satire
Ginja thank you for all the great videos and helpful tips. You are hands down one of the best lawn care tubers on UA-cam. Oh and that beard is really coming along nicely 🤘
Super kind Brent!!! Thank you so much
Great overview! Very interesting point about switching it up. I hadn't heard that before.
indeed! Thanks for watching Jay!
Thank you, Ginja. Your videos are so helpful.
You're welcome Ryan, thanks for the love
Great content. Thank you for posting additional notes in descr and the links in Amazon. I've never seen these in home improvement stores.
You're welcome. I'll be updating the notes as I get more time.
What a great video! Thank you for the review!!! Great video to watch over and over again.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I am sold on the Tenacity Herbicide and am waiting to try that on my lawn for a pre and post application. Thanks for sharing the vital information.
You're welcome samuel! It's a fun product.
Awesome videos... I’m a newbie & need all the help I can get. I can’t even tell you how many times I need to pause to take notes!!! Thanks Ginja!!!
Glad it was helpful! I really appreciate the support.
@11:45 The 8oz Tenacity bottle full-strength covers one acre. Great comparison video. This is the best and widest overall comparison I have found yet.
Thanks for this
Yessss!! You’re back.
Thanks Allen! Good to be back on the lawns
Very knowledgeable and detailed explanation!! Super helpful!! Thank you Ginja!!
you're welcome! Glad that you found value.
This video is gem packed with so many good information... Thank you again for another great video !! I am subscribing now.
Thanks for the sub! Glad you found value! appreciate the feedback!
good stuff Ginja. Thanks for your knowledge bro.
Thanks Rick! Great to hear from you
The single-greatest lawn channel out there.
bro! huge compliment. thank you
Pest and Lawn Ginja does that HJ brand have larger granules?
Great info! Appreciate your knowledge with lawn care👍
You're welcome! Thanks for watching
Great video again mister Ginja. If you open a Home garden store you will get all the costumers because you explain very well.
Thanks for watching and commenting Wilvert! I'd talk to much in a home and garden store. I'd probably never leave lOL
Great info as always Ginja.
Thanks Steve! really appreciate you spending time to watch my videos
Thanks for breaking down the different pre emergent herbicides . The benefits and the problems you may have with certain ones. I know where i am at with bermuda grass is my main turf grass, that Tenacity is not an option. But the others are. Thanks again.
You're welcome. Thanks for the comment!
Great video Ginja!!
Thanks!!! Appreciate you watching.
Great info Ginja!!
Thanks!!! appreciate you watching
Your videos are excellent. Thank you for your helpful advice.
You are so welcome!
I know this is very uncommon or unadvisedly but I used tenacity for spring seeding of KBG/PRG and it was the best think ever. I’m about 5 weeks in and it’s already nice and full with 0 weeds. Now it’s just maintenance from here
It is super common and the primary use for tenacity!!! It's fantastic
@@pestandlawnginja So you are saying the tenacity is ideal to put down as a primary pre-emergent. I am going to order a bottle to have on hand.
Used HJ every 6 months, give or take, for several decades both in my yard and most of my mowing customers yards. Always went heavy and early in Bermuda yards but had to wait until after overseeding and germination for the fall app with fescue, usually late Oct/early Nov in OK. Hit it again in March and had very few weeds to deal with after a full season of Barricade.
great feedback Jim. thank you
An excellent review of pre-emergent options. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Had to watch twice Mr Gija there was acrobat doing cart wheels and then later on the dog was enjoying a back rub on the weed free lawn so I missed some but I've got it all now 😁 good job
My little photo bomber was on point!!! LOL
Bro...nice work and thanks for the info!
You bet!
Very knowledgeable! Excellent presentation.
Thanks Daniela! appreciate the feedback
Well done, great video!
Thanks felipe!!!
Really well assembled information!
Thanks!
Great information. appreciate it 👍
You're welcome Jay!!! Flo on my friend
Great explanation, thank you. 👍👍
You're welcome D Goode!!! Thanks for the comment!
Thanks for posting this helpful video
you're welcome! Thanks for dropping a comment.
Thanks heaps, very helpful!
You're welcome Jimmy! Thanks for watching and commenting.
Ned!!!! Oh and thanks for the info!
Ned is back! HAHAHA. You're welcome! Thanks for the comment
I subbed because of this video. Good info.
Great to have you!
Very educational. Thanks a lot.
You're welcome. Thanks for the comment!
Great video and detail...thank you. I am in Charlotte with 2/3 acre lot and since it is now April I did not put down a pre-emergent yet. is it too late to do a PE? Can I just use the Tenacity now and then start with PE next year?
Professor Al and Professor Ginga collaboration would be eye opening in mathematical calculations and information for us DIYers. 😁👍👍
ha, love it!!! Thanks for the compliment. made my day
I'm doing cartwheels and summersaults myself in celebration of spring and being outside in the lawn again.
👉👊 . I feel you Jimmy!!!
Love the cupula on your home!
Thanks Andrew!!! Appreciate you watching and commenting
The best content I’ve seen on this subject matter.
Question:
Are there spreader settings on these products for the popular spreader models?
only on a few of the bags. that would be the only frustrating part.
Very deep. Thanks.
Thanks for listening
Hey ginja, it’s a little pricey, but it’s good for picking up a new lawn that never had lawncare service and it’s spring and it’s loaded with weeds, they have dimension w/ lockup... I know dithiopyr has post emergent tendencies but only in the early stages of leaf tiller and that’s where lockup takes over!!! Works VERY well for knock down power and preemergent... I only use it when it’s a new takeover and they have a good base to work with but also has a ton of weeds in all different phases of development!!
Very cool. I'll have to consider it.
Love how we are seeing much more talk of cycling herbicides for prevention of weed resistance. From all that I've read/seen on the subject though, the product's Mode of Action/Class has to be rotated in order to increase efficacy... not the active ingredient. For example: Pendimethalin, Prodiamine, and Dithiopyr all fall into the same group classification (Group 3) which means rotating between those active ingredients will not improve efficacy. Sadly, I overlooked this when stocking up for my yearly plans... I've got more pre-em's falling into the same class than I'd really like to admit, hahaha!
It is true. There are some benefits to switching up active ingredients but the majority of the benefits is switching classes. The options are super limited unless you're going to mix up a batch of corn gluten meal at $8 to $12 per 1000ft2
I subscribed my friend. As someone who hasn't used pre emergent in a long time and really is not an advocate of them, I really appreciate how informative and well conveyed this was. Nicely done, I really like your deep knowledge and straight forward delivery here without the fluff.....
Really appreciate the feedback. thanks for subscribing
You’re getting in the way of the Olympic gymnastics going on in the background. 😄😄😄
👊😂 good call
i think the kid jumped into his head 🤣
Your kid in the background is great!!
Thank you! They love the comments that include them 👊🤩
Hey new to the channel, very informative. I recently got into lawncare for my weed infested bermuda lawn. Average temperature in hawaii for my area is mid 80s. Can I put weed killer for grassy and broadleaf weeds before I put a pre emergent?
This was awesome
Thanks Skylar!
Another awsome VID by the NINJA
Thanks chapo!
Hi Ginga, so glad you made this video. I am faced with helping a friend with an acre yard currently overrun with Dallisgrass, crabgrass and buttonweed. I treated with Blindside and MSMA for some current control but my concern is next year. I am not sure there is much Bermuda to push so am considering over seeding in mid May next year. My concern has been about the need for pre-emergent to help control the excessive weed germination but also need to be able to germinate the new Bermuda. Tenacity may be the answer. I am in Greensboro, NC area so crabgrass will likely be germinating by mid-March. When should I apply and will I be OK over seeding with Bermuda? After first year, prodiamine would be my choice in Feb. Thanks for all your GREAT videos and sharing your expertise.
Unfortunately Bermuda doesn't play well with tenacity. Check the prodiamine and dithiopyr label
Great video Ginga. Saved to my lawn care favorites. What about Barricade? Doesn't that fit into this group somewhere?
barricade = prodiamine
Great Vid! I went with Tenacity this year, with a lawn comprised of such a high percentage of weeds, I was expecting more bareness, its only been a week though. Such a small dose makes me question if I did it right though. 2 teaspoons of tenacity from a backpack sprayer for 1000sq ft of lawn sounds right though?
It's recommended at .68 to 1 teaspoon per 1000ft2
I just discovered your channel and wow, what a trove of detailed info. Historically, I haven't done much other then apply weed/feed fertilizer in Spring/Summer/Fall because I don't have irrigation and I'm on a full Acre in New England so I've always relied on Mother Nature for watering. Unfortunately, the lawn is pretty weed heavy so I'm considering a baseline dose of Tenacity this October to eliminate the current weeds, followed by dithiopyr later that month and again in the Spring with my usual fertilizing to get something looking somewhat respectable. Does this sound reasonable or would I be wasting my money until I get an irrigation system installed to properly water?
I wouldn't recommend the dithiopyr unless the crabgrass is still in the 2 to 3 leaf stage. Prodiamine is much cheaper and stays in the soil better.
As for the constant weed problems I would focus on a cheap calcium source and try to get some water to hell the grass
Most helpful video on the subject that I have come across. Thank you sir! er... Ginga
Thanks Michael. Really appreciate the feedback.
With using pre emergent one of the benefits in using them specifically for gardens it will allow to significantly help with weed control when it comes to using starts.
absolutely! Be sure to read the labels. Many pre emergents are not garden safe.
I am just south of STL and getting ahead of the game this year, first full year with this house and first time homeowner. Watched this video along with a few others (GCI, Ryan K, LCN) I chose tenacity with Southern AG surfactant and Lazer dye for even app as my pre-emergent this year. I did two post emergent apps last year late with store bought (saw limited result) and a lot of hand pulling and hard raking before over seeding in September. I was 85/15 weed/grass when I bought the house now I am probably 40/60 weed(mainly creeping charlie and star/crabgrass)/grass. Any advice going into spring? not looking for a golf course, just the nicest lawn in town. BTW this video got you a sub. Thank you in advance for any and all advice.
Hey C_Town. I'm all about diagnosing first. Could be that you're fighting some perennial grass types as opposed to annual grasses. First things first we need a 100% positive identification on what you're trying to get rid of. Creeping charlie is best treated in the fall time with a triclopyr based spray. Sounds like you're on the right track. Just keep in mind if you do a pre emergent you won't be able to do a spring overseed unless you stick with tenacity and the pre emergent properties won't nearly as long as the pre emergents in this video. I would take some samples of the weeds to a local nursery and get some positive identification then we can put together a solid plan of action.
Ginja, love your content and been subscribed for a while. Full of very useful information. Taking care of new Kentucky blue sod up here in Michigan. Will a pre emergent stop my bluegrass seed tops from germinating when they appear in mid-May? I like to let it grow so the seed tops get put back down when I mow (mulch). And will a pre emergent stop the ‘clump tall fescue’ from germinating? That coarse grass took over my old lawn. It was everywhere and was told the only way to get rid of it was to use Roundup. Thanks for being there for us lawn geeks!!
Pre emergents stop seed germination. It will not stop seed head formation but still disallow those seeds tp germinate adds the pre emergent products are active.
It will stop bunching tall fescue seed germination but if the seed has already germinated those grasses will emerge. It will not stop rhizome spreads either so the clumps will get larger
Thanks for the feedback Ginja. Love your videos!!
Good advice as usual! I get a lot of grassy annual weeds, crab grass wasn't too bad last year but I really want to take out the POA, foxtail, barnyard grass (and quack if at all possible but I'm probably screwed either way with quackgrass). My goal this spring and summer is to control weeds and make a good foundation for a heavy overseeding and renovation mid August, so the weeds arent causing problems and choking the seed out later on. Any suggestions? I was thinking about doing a 4 month app rate of prodiamine in a couple weeks. And maybe tenacity if it will be needed just prior to seeding in August. Prodiamine is quite a bit cheaper than dithipoyr.
If you have the extra $$ I would do an 2 to 3 month app of pendimethalin and then an app of tenacity every two weeks followed by the overseed on the 2nd or 3rd app.
I appreciate the way u break things down and explain them in each video! As for Bermuda grass, would it be ok to put down pendulum 2G and then go behind with the dithiopyr, or would that be to much? Also, what's ur recommended fertilizer on this grass?
Thanks in advance!
Dithiopyr is a superior product assuming it can get down to the soil. Stick to one or the other for the season
@@pestandlawnginja ok, thanks! Do u have a recommendation on a fertilizer, or do I need to just base it off of a soil sample? I live in GA by the way.
Great info - thanks
You're welcome wade!
@@pestandlawnginja Do you have a recco for a post emergent I can use on newly (last fall) seeded fescue and a super bare area of bermuda. Dont want to discourage rooting for a couple of more seasons so I need to go at it in a post emerg way. I can aquire a backpack sprayer and blanket spray it. (Tenacity on the list for next fall for sure)
Great video and info Ginja! Can you share what you are using to edit? Looks great man 👍
I use imovie. I like to keep it simple.
@@pestandlawnginja thanks Ginja!!
You had a video with a special measuring cup that you were using for prodiamine/barricade.......where can I find that to buy??!!
I’m tired of breaking out the scale or trying to remember how many teaspoons per square foot Etc.
Thanks!!! Love the content you are putting out.
Those measuring cups come straight from the manufacturer. I would call domyown and see if they have any for sale
I live in Michigan. I have a clay based lawn, (thanks to the builder removing the topsoil), it has taken 2 years of soil tests, peat moss top dressing, aerating, and post emergent treatments with 2,4D and quinclorac, but I finally have a really nice lawn. However, I had a bad dandelion problem in Spring of 2021 then crab grass issues in August 2021. I did a a major overseed project with 50lbs of KBG in mid September and top dressed with peat moss with a landzie roller, after core aerating the whole 15,000 ft2 yard. What would be your recommendation for a pre-emergent before the soil temps reach 55 degrees? I don't mind spending the money on a good product. I am unsure if I should go with Dithiopyr, Prodiamine, or something else. I am hoping to initially prevent the dandelions, but if a second app in late July would also prevent the crabgrass then I will do that. Whatever guidance you could give would be very much appreciated. I want to try and prevent any of these issues this growing season to allow the KGB room to fully mature to really thicken up the lawn. I also put in an irrigation system at the beginning of September last year so I could have complete control of the watering. Thank you.
Hey there LOVE your channel!
Question, I am doing a lawn renovation in the next couple weekends. I have the tenacity and surfactant to put down in my weed riddled lawn. I assume that is as a post emergent since it is post weed growth. Once a couple weeks have gone by and I am seeing the result of that application do I then aerate and over-seed? And then at what point do I put tenacity back down as a pre emergent so that weeds don’t attack my new seedlings?
Hopefully some of that is correct and you know how to help a new lawn learner like me! I live in a high end neighborhood and am trying to keep up without paying a service to put subpar stuff down. Plus I enjoy it!
tenacity isn't a long standing pre emergent so i prefer to do 2 back to back 14 days apart. then on the second one I drop the seed. so yes, you can aerate and overseed that same day.
Thanks and great vid. I love in Northeast and have KBG. Should I aerate in early spring before pre-emerg? Thanks
I prefer to scarify
As always a great vid.
As a Swede, I have to ask if there is any organic alternative, because these products are difficult to obtain outside the US? Cheers!
yes there is. Corn Gluten meal. there should be plenty instructions on google for rates. Thanks for watching! Love the Swede's!!!
Your son is the main role in this video!:))
He had soo much fun! Thanks for commenting. made his day
Thank you for good, informative video, Ginga. The question. What to do after Tenacity application if most of the lawn got white?🤦🏻♀️😁😁Overseeding?
bio stimulants like humate and sea kelp every 2 weeks
Thanks for reply on sprayers. My next question is Spring Pre-emergent weed control its march in Chicago soil temp is 46-47 degrees. I have tenacity used last year is prodiamine better this year and then how long after to 1st fertilize. 3000sq.ft. to do.
I try and educate people that tenacity doesn't last long. It was never meant to be the ultimate pre emergent. More of a supplement. If you read the label the label suggests mixing prodiamine into the tenacity for extended pre emergent periods.
Awesome video. Thanks for breaking it down like that. I noticed the other day that Prodiamine comes in two different Weed Types. I'm gonna guess you are just taking about Crabgrass so you didn't cover that. In case I have Dallisgrass what is the punchline for it?
msma or cma are the go to. Its a booger of a weed
Pest and Lawn Ginja nice answer however I tried to purchase those two chemicals here in west Texas and the supplier would not sell them to me.
As a was told it could only be sold to golf courses, I said what about a farmer? No dice 😫🛫 what do you suggest?
Great video. I live in upstate NY and have always had good luck using scotts crabgrass halts. I usually put down halts the end of March or early April. I then go with scotts weed and feed in May and my lawn is beautiful until end of July and the crabbgrass starts to apper. Would yourecommend using Tenacity in the middle of June and would it help take care of the July crabgrass?
Thank you
Hi Mike! Tenacity isn't the best solution for a true pre emergent. It does really well getting rid of crabgrass. I recommend people use it as a pre emergent while over seeding. If you're planning on using a pre emergent stick to the course you've been following. It's a great product to kill crabgrass after it's emerged.
These are great vids,
How did you get started in this work?
Thanks B. I sold door to door for 6 years and listened to people's concerns. Dove in after that and learned first hand on the lawns.
Great vid
My question is this. I overseeded last fall, and its now a solid 5 months since KYB and Rye germinated. Its time to prevent crabgrass, so Is my grass mature enough to handle Prodiamine? Or should I put down Tenacity?
I have not applied ANY pre emergent at all ever.
I did throw down more seed 4 weeks ago as a winter experiment to create a thicker lawn, but I am more focused on the young KYB and if prodiamine will hurt its root growth.
Thanks
If you're still in the process of overseeding I would recommend you stick with tenacity. however, even tenacity isn't rated for newly emerged grass 😒. You'll need to hold off a bit if you want the new seed to take and stay strong.
I have Bermuda, in Texas, and my main issue is poa annua. What do you recommend? Also, the timing is crazy. I'm not sure when to do it prior to September since it is so hot. Love your channel.
tough situation. pre emergents are going to be your saving grace and make sure you bag your clippings for a few seasons while the poa filters through. As for sprays there is one called revolver that does ok.
following you awesome videos, im in the northeast. I havent bought it yet.
my lawn is in great shape but I'm at the point where I'm beyond using scotts products.
ryegrass fescure mix in my lawn what do you recommend?
either prodiamine or dithiopyr
Are those the Rockies behind you? I'm in Fort Collins trying to deal with clay soil and crabgrass. Thanks for the info, especially the pricing.
Yes they are! I'm in Utah. very similar conditions to where your at.
Hey great video! Can I apply a pre-emergent corn gluten weed control this sping if I overseeded late last fall? also can I apply starter fertilizer with the pre-emergent or is that too much nitrogen?
Watch todays video on "this is my lawn". That will explain the nitrogen. IMO there are very few times to exceed 1lbs of nitrogen in one dose. If you're not planning on overseeding this spring you can apply pre emergent. If the seed established well I would come out of the gates at 1/2lbs of N
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Hi. I know this is an older video but it was very educational to me. My question is I live in HOT Texas and I have a lot of crabgrass heading into October. What do you suggest for an area that stay in the 80s till November. Thanks
dithiopyr would be my choice
Ginja! I'm planning on dropping an application of dithiopyr in the next week or so. (I'm in ohio and our cold temps are dragging on over here) But I plan to overseed in the fall, the question is should I do a app of tenacity in summer or just fertilize and put down with the grass seed?
I would do an app of tenacity then a followup app of tenacity with the over seed two weeks later
Heya, Ginja! You threw me a curve on this one. I had to watch it three times to wrap my head around it all.
So, I'm in N. Idaho, and have a cool season lawn with some tough stuff in it that I DIDN'T PLANT!
After watching your chock-full-o-info video here, I went to the Tenacity training module and educated myself a bit more.
I ended up ordering some from Amazon, along with some dye, and will use dishsoap for surfactant.
Now, I've always been a weed-n-feed guy, got meh results, and no luck getting rid of the buckhorn plantain plantation in my front yard, so I chose the Tenacity
because it is pre and post emergent, and safe for use on pretty much any cool season lawn. I'm gonna be getting a sprayer and learning a lot this year.
Will you hold my hand and reassure me when I start getting the "cool white" in my lawn? Any advice on what I should tell the neighbors when my lawn looks like
it's got snow mold all over it?
Thanks for another great vid! Looking forward to this year (it's my second summer of early retirement)!
Tell them it has the flu and it's highly contagious! Hahahaha. That bleaching is super annoying. I would purchase the surfactant that the label recommends. The dish soap is not recommended with tenacity. Also be sure that the target weed your going after is on the label. You may need a more aggressive herbicide to knock it out. I don't have a lot of hands on experience with buckhorn plantain.
@@pestandlawnginja Thanks for the heads up, I'll get the suggested surfactant too. Plantain IS on the list.
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I have POA annua that I need to address this fall, can I use tenacity after I aerate and overseed? Or do I have to forgo seeding all together and just use prodiamine or Dimension?
Thanks again for the great content.
Tenacity works great for POA. Just keep in mind you'll need to do back to back applications within 2 to 3 weeks.
Hey Ginja....welcome to the 2020 season! What are your thoughts as to the effectiveness of Scott's Halts (no fert)? Active ingredient: Pendimethalin 1.71%. Would it be an effective pre-emerge for me, here in northern New England?
It's a great product. it's expensive and it works well.
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You'r welcome sweet cheeks, that I let you be first. Lol...🥰😉
@@dronemaddness5148 awww thanks.
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Ginja,
Transition Zone Bermuda. Wet springs, hot summers. Poa is nuts until mid June. Which of these do you recommend for a better poa control? I am fighting an uphill battle, been in the house a little over a year and previous owner didn’t do squat. We’ve made progress but I’m ready for it all to be gone. Used prodiamine this fall/spring.
the better of the bunch in my opinion is dithiopyr based pre emergents. I would also consider a PGR (growth regulator). they've been known to kill poa
Question: I live in AF/Lehi area. Did you buy the snapshot 2.5 locally? If so where? I have only seen options online. Thanks for all the vids
DoMyOwn.com has a facility in West Valley. That's where I got it.
Great overview! I'm splitting Prodiamine and dithiopyr now. Going to overseed (TTTF) early in the fall with Tenacity. I know Tenacity only lasts about 4 weeks, so I was thinking about using another app of Prodiamine about 3 or 4 weeks after the grass emerged. Does that sound like a good plan to you?
I personally would lay off the late fall pre emergent with anything other than tenacity. I worry if you need to overseed in the spring time if that would impede the progress.
@@pestandlawnginja Gotcha, good point! Thanks much...
Great videos! Quick question, we live in Iowa and had new sod put in last July and had a some crabgrass pop up in late summer that I just pulled out by hand. Would you recommend using a pre-emergent this spring? With the lawn being so new, I'm not sure what to expect for it's first full year of growth. Thanks!
prodiamine or dithiopyr would be my suggestion. prodiamine if you're ground temps are pre 55 degrees. dithiopyr if your at 55 degrees already.
@@pestandlawnginja brother, I'm taking notes. thanks for your help! I hope making comments and such will help push your videos out there more!