Wide Right - From the Bill's Perspective
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
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Super Bowl XXV was one of the greatest games ever - with it coming down to the last play. But nobody ever looks at it from the Bill's perspective.
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As soon I saw "Wide right." I immediately knew pain.
And how the bills’ franchise in decades years
Aged like wine 😂
No, you didn't. Well, you kinda did, but you had no idea that half a year later you will realize that you actually didn't ;)
First it was Scott Norwood
Now it is Tyler Bass
*The Bills might really be cursed*
Came here just for this comment. Go Chiefs!
For me, they are so cursed.
You can’t blame either kicker in both games. The Bills had so many chances to put both games away.
1990 was the first year I watched professional football. I was nine years old. That Bills team was fantastic. It absolutely sucks that they never won a Super Bowl.
Exactly 10 years older than me. CRAZY
whats up my fellow now 40 year old
Same.
This was tremendous. It wasn't Norwood, it was Belichick combined with Levy not adjusting quickly enough. Going in against Hostetler I would have leaned hard on Thomas, but that's hindsight.
true Belichick played for the pass, if the bills would have established some sort of run things would have been different.
It's just common sense really... They lined up to stop the pass, Buffalo should have punished that with their great running back to get them out of that allignement. It's the difference between a good coach and a great coach, adjustments in game.
All of that and they still would have won if he made it.
Same thing for Gary Anderson when he was the kicker on Minnesota. Nobody remembers that Randy Moss dropped an easy TD in the first half that resulted in a FG. Great video as always 5.
I'm a lifelong Bills fan, and it still sticks in my craw to this day that the Giants possessed the ball for 40 minutes and we still only lost by one point, and that wasn't even assured until the kick went wide right.
A couple points from a lifetime bills fan. Jim called all the offensive plays. He admits that he doesn’t remember much of the 2nd half, having suffered a concussion late in first half. Helps to explain why the bills were so inflexible( hostetler also played concussed). Also the kick happened on 3rd down. Bills had 8 seconds and a timeout
Back again for another moment in Bills history
Always felt bad for Norwood. Never should have come down to that kick, but he "wide right" is what everyone remembers.
You and KTO have the best football documentary videos, your story telling is very drawing and compelling
Wow, thank you!
Facts
I remember watching that game, and the group of friends I was with, we all came to the same conclusion noted here: Why did the Bills keep throwing the ball into a defense with six defensive backs for so long? If mere mortals can discern this, why couldn't the Bills coaching staff? Why didn't Jim Kelly call audibles to running plays? Still mind boggling
Time for Wide Right pt 2.
Poor Bill's Mafia...wide right. AGAIN!
This really needs to be a series
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Remember this game well. We were a family group watching together, pulling for the Giants as we have no Bills fans in the family, but one of our sons was a Giants fan, and we backed and cheered the Giants…family unity. Thanks Five, excellent break down of all that went wrong up to that FG try. The Bills all owned the loss as a team should. Don’t just show unity for the wins. Football is a true team sports.
Coming from a Bills fan (again, the same Bills fan you met in DC during the Tom Grossi fan meetup), you nailed this video right on the head, Five! This is the kind of video I’ve been waiting for Secret Base to make a Rewinder on. But for a Giants fan like you to make this kind of video and look at everything from Buffalo’s perspective (and not even brag about it once, which I actually appreciate lol), this was an amazing breakdown of how all sorts of plays and events that led to the kick at the end. And how that kick by Scott Norwood, an average kicker to begin with, was not the sole reason for the Bills’ defeat. Sorry if this is very long, but bear with me on this…
All the what-if’s for the Bills in this game were pointed out to a T: the safety that could’ve been a touchdown, the half-hearted tackling on 3rd & 13, and most of all… Marv Levy and OC Ted Marchibroda being absolutely stubborn and not countering the Giants and Bill Belichick’s defensive strategy by having Thurman Thomas run the football a lot more often. And it was clearly shown throughout the game that Thomas had an easier time running the ball against six defensive backs, than Jim Kelly throwing it against that same personnel. So much that had Buffalo won, Thurman Thomas clearly would’ve been the MVP. Even though Thomas was the only Bill to score a touchdown in each of Buffalo’s four SB appearances, he’d never have anywhere close to that great performance in the other three SB’s. Those strong Washington and Dallas defenses (aside from Thomas misplacing his helmet and being a victim of crucial fumbles) had Thomas and the Bills doomed in. I will go to my grave believing that Levy’s lack of focus on Thurman Thomas and the run game was a huge reason for the Bills not winning a Lombardi Trophy on that night.
That was on the field, but the Bills might’ve lost the game off it in the days leading up to as well. The majority of the players that were on the 1990 Giants team had remain from the 1986 squad that won Super Bowl XXI. Thus, those players for the Giants not only already had experience playing in the big game, but preparing for it as well (especially with a no-nonsense head coach like Bill Parcells at the helm). The Bills on the other hand and… oh no. It’s one thing to feel confident going into the biggest game of your career. But for much of the Bills players who never got to experience getting ready for the Super Bowl, let alone playing in it… they became both cocky and overconfident. Given the way they dominated in their two playoff wins to get them into Tampa, and the fact that they were installed as a 7-point favorite to win Super Bowl XXV, the Buffalo players wound up buying too much into the hype in the week before the game. Combined with the fact that the coaches never instituted a curfew so that the players could focus more on preparing and game planning, rather than partying and drinking in the Tampa nightlife, Buffalo wound up losing this game before the opening kickoff would even take place that following Sunday.
Despite these opinions, I still have a deep love and appreciation for what Jim Kelly, Thurman Thomas, Andre Reed, Bruce Smith, the rest of the players and HC Marv Levy did for Bills Mafia (a term which obviously didn’t yet exist back then) and Western New York with lots of great memories in spite of the bitter SB losses. The Buffalo Bills teams of today and the last few years are some of the best squads the franchise has fielded since those AFC championship teams of the ‘90s. Personally, I am hoping that Josh Allen could finally lead this team to victory (though not all by himself obviously) and finally finish what those ‘90s teams had started long ago. The day the Bills finally win a SB would go up there with the ‘04 Red Sox and ‘16 Cubs winning their respective World Series, and even your Rangers winning the Stanley Cup in ‘94 (ironically all these teams had already won world championships prior, they just had 50+ years worth of droughts they each had going before ending them. But in all fairness, the Bills won two AFL championships before the Super Bowl-era began, so technically they find themselves currently in title drought)
But anyways, this was the deep dive of a video football fans young and old needed for perspective. Thank you so much Five, and GO BILLS!!!
At age 11, this was the first Super Bowl I ever saw. I remember reading it was 12-12 NFC-AFC at the time. And if I’m remembering correctly between Giants last drive of 1st half, Halftime, and Giants first drive of second half, Bills offense wasn’t on field for an hour of actual time. Weird to think this was the only time of four Super Bowls Bills wore their white road jerseys.
Too often a loss falls on a kicker not making it in a clutch moment, but like Frank Reich said, the whole team has to miss for it to come down to a last second kick.
Hopefully with the roster they have now, the Bills will be able to finally hold a Lombardi.
Hostetler's TD pass to Stephen Baker in the 2nd quarter wouldn't have counted in today's NFL, as he did not complete the process of the catch. If you watch the replay closely, he loses possession of the ball when he hits the ground. Not so sure it should have counted in 1991 either, as the pass catcher has always been required to demonstrate clear possession of the ball.
I've always felt so bad for Scott Norwood, he genuinely felt so terrible about that, and still does.
This is the only Super Bowl where people care about the losers side of the story almost as much as the winner
You know what Ray Finkle would have said if he was Scott Norwood lol. Laces Out! 😂 As always great stuff man. You're an amazing storyteller.
Ace Ventura was based on this superbowl
We watched that Super Bowl at my uncle's house. He was a rabid Giants fan, whereas I had, after being a tiny bit slow on the uptake, gotten pissed off at the Jets (before I _knew_ the term 'pissed off', being 9 at the time) for leaving Shea for New Jersey and decided that there's only one team in New York State. Pretty good timing too, you'd think... I remember so much about that game though. Including my sister being openly pissed off (being almost 14 she _definitely_ knew the term) about the New Kids not being shown at halftime because it was too much of a supposedly solemn thing, with Desert Storm and all that. (I was less open about it myself, though Step by Step didn't impress me as much as Hangin' Tough... I'm admitting it for the sheer disconnect of how much Nirvana and Pearl Jam blew my mind two years later. Anyway.)
I mainly remember the kick sailing wide, already being drained from how much of a struggle the entire game was, hearing my uncle's clapping echoing in my ears, and actually having to go walk out to the street in Brooklyn where my not-that-big-a-sports-fan mom and my Jets fan dad were there, still expecting tears at 12, but I just never felt that _defeated_ in life to that point. I guess I didn't have the right perspective by that point... cut ahead to a 40 year old man sneaking looks at the Ravens/Bengals game in 2017 and when the Bengals went ahead, I _cried_ in that dairy cooler.
Last season was rough. From the punter accused of statutory and forcible rape, to injuries both major and too subtle to note, to Damar, to the Bengals game, to that punter actually being innocent (one can use that term when the police say he was never there)... but honestly, I'm glad that they're doing so well we _expect_ them to win, but I'll never assume victory is inevitable again.
Here’s some intresting trivia. There’s a pretty good indie movie called Buffalo 66 starting director Vincent Gallo (famously got a BJ from Chloë Sevigny on film) and Christina Ricci. Vincent plays a guy who wants to murder Scott Norwood for wide right which cost him years of his life paying off gambling debts. Scott Norwood himself was asked to be in the movie as himself but he declined
The Giants fan looking at Wide Right from the Bills’ perspective. Love it!!
As a bills fan I really enjoyed this video. I really appreciate that this was serious analysis rather than your usual joke-filled style. Would love to see more of these, but maybe for other teams as well.
I wasn’t around during the Bills Super Bowl run but I do remember watching the game a few years ago on UA-cam and was blown away by the giants defense and how they were able to shut down what was arguably one of the best offenses during that era
I had my Pizza Hut pizza that came with 3D glasses for the half time show. I remember this like it was yesterday. There was a funny movie called Buffalo 66 that ties into this game. Those Bills teams were way too good to drop 4. Crazy!
To his eternal credit, Norwood answered EVERY question asked by the media after the game. Compare that to, say Cam Newton's approach to a post-Super Bowl press conference.
We were driving back from a vacation at Disney and Dad demanded a stop at Hilton Head, SC just to watch the game. I watched it sail wide from a hotel bed. It didn't hit until the next day. My 10 year old self cried for like an hour in the back seat.
To go to 4 straight SBs is a monumental achievement.
Yes but at the same time you want to get at least 1
History has repeated itself
I've never met Scott, but I played men's league baseball with his brother and worked with his sister-in-law. Nice family. Scott's an alumnus of my alma mater James Madison University. Man, I wish he'd made this kick.
Awesome vid as always mate!!
Crazy that in a nearly flawless season for an AFC East team the giants NEARLY beat them in the regular season when no one else could stop them and then ended them in the Superb Owl. AS a Patriots fan this scene makes me think of a weird connection.
I’m a pats fan too, and it still annoys me so much Bill benched Butler the entire game vs the Eagles in SB 52. Defensive genius Bill should have known better.
This was really good! As a Bills fan who wasn’t alive at that time, I’m convinced that if they win that game then they don’t necessarily make it back to the Super Bowl as many times as they did if at all because that group wouldn’t have been motivated to win a title as much.
The talent on that team is demonstrated by the fact that they weren’t playing their best and still almost won the game. It kind of reminds me of the team I’m watching now and Sean McDermott is Marv Levy without any Super Bowl appearances in his career at this moment.
This game was their best chance to win a title because Washington and Dallas were clearly better. The only other chance the Bills had of winning a title would have required a lot to go right in the second half of the second Super Bowl against Dallas.
Actually the bills probably would have made it back in a alternative universe.. probably would have won two super bowls out of those 4.
Every time I'm reminded the pain the bills faced in the 90's a big smile is upon my face.
If Bills would have won that game and then lost the next 3 SBs, Bills fans would have been very satisfied with that 4 year stretch.
Had the Bills ran the ball more instead of depending mostly on the pass when it wasn't working, they would've ran away with it.
Absolutely amazing breakdown.
Right up there with your 28-3 & 35-3 videos
Marv Levy was severely outcoached. Hurts to say that, but he and Jim Kelly did not adjust to what Belichick did.
It happened again… 😮
As a bills fan since the beginning of time it feels like . This was painful to watch . Like going threw a break up and then watchin a film about it . But five, truth hurts pov ! Nailed it 💙🦬❤️😢🥺😩😕
It’s unbelievable that people think that Brady carried Belichick they were both a big part of the dynasty Tom Brady’s offenses combined with Bill Belichicks defenses were an unstoppable duo I don’t know why people can’t just accept that both of them were great in their own ways for me there definitely the greatest quarterback and Coach of all time and by far the greatest duo ever 💯
One of ur best videos. I’m so intrigued with this team still even tho I watched it all unfold a kid.
Who's here after it happened again LMAO
I watched that game outside of Buffalo with my family at 10 years old. We held hands and prayed before the Norwood kick, and in the process proved that there is no God.
May God bless you
In an alternate reality the Bills won four SBs in a row and are talked about like the Steelers, Cowboys, Niners, and Pats.
I say maybe 2 Superbowls. I don't think you were going to get past cowboys
@@attiepollard7847 you missed my point just like Norwood missed the FG
@@bob8776 and I still say you wouldn't getting past the cowboys
So many inaccuracies, it was ray Finkle who missed that field goal and Dan Marino was the holder, laces Out!!!!
Football is such a heartbreaking game, I been a Bengals game and other than maybe the Browns, we have had our share of heartbreak and miss fortune, thanks Vontaze. Cool video keep them coming.
Next up: “Laces Out” from the 49ers point of view. Or the kidnapping of Dan Marino from the Eagles point of view.
For a moment I thought I was watching a Secret Base video. That's how good this video is
Love the deep dives from alternate perspectives.
This video feels like a better version of Secret Base's Rewinder videos. Great analysis!
I agree with you, and Jim Kelly agrees with you. He's said that there's a hundred things they should have done but didn't that would have won them that game. It wasn't Norwood's fault. There's a hundred kickers who'd have missed that field goal too.
Off topic, I can't applaud Tom Grossi enough for what he just accomplished. He is a true legend.
the answer: PAINFUL
I'd say the most shameful thing was the coach not imposing a curfew on the players prior to the game.
Raiders didn’t have a curfew against eagles in Super Bowl in 1980. Eagles coach Vermeil was strict and they lost.
Losing any game like that is tough losing a Super Bowl like that even tougher losing 4 consecutive super bowls daammmn that just ain’t right they def deserved 1 during that run
Brutal….I remember this game. Just brutal
Im a Vikings fan. Please never ever do a 1998 Gary Anderson Kick video. You would just break my heart.
Thank you, our state is still reeling from that
Great vid. I almost feel bad about what happened to them in the upcoming years.
Man those are some damn good teammates consoling their kicker.
There's another one to blame for wide Right the bills special teams coach he knew through out the game Norwood was pushing his kicks to the right but didn't think it wasn't important to tell marv levy if he did the bills would have set the final kick in the center instead of the right hash Mark.
I've always thought the way those Bills teams are talked about is really unfair. For one thing, going to four straight Super Bowls does not make a team "losers." If they're losers, the other AFC teams were super losers I guess.
And it's not fair to put it all on Norwood. A 47 yard kicker isn't a gimme and it certainly wasn't a gimme back then.
Love the old school TV frame. You should throw in some VHS tracking issues and static, like in Kung Fury.
Giants season ticket holder for 45 years now. I was at that game.
The Giants were aging and had just had a brutal fight only one week before in San Francisco. Yes this Superbowl was played one week after the NFC / AFC Championship games.
The diffrence was Bill Belicheck. Belicheck came home from San Francisco landing in NY on Monday morning and did not go home . So the story goes Belicheck stayed in his office for 3 days an for all of his waking hours studied the Bills offense-- how to stop the Bills hurry up.
On the 3rd day he called Bill Parcells and explained that he figured out if the Giants pnly rush two down lineman , take out their core linebackers and put in extra defensive backs they would stop Jim Kelly and the passing game.
As I sat in the stadium I couldn't believe the Giants had two down lineman and Lawrence Taylor and Carl Banks were not a factor or even in the game.
The Bills were so hell bent on using that passing game that by the time they adjusted it was over.
The kick yeah lost it but not really.
The Bills were 100% the better team on the field that day.
For some reason, I get the feeling if the Bills ever do win the Super Bowl, it will come off a field goal.
I’m glad I wasn’t alive to experience our 4 straight Super Bowl losses. I prolly would’ve self deleted
I anticipate and dread a look at "Wide Left" (the 1998 NFC Championship). Despite a history of pain, that January day in 1999 is still the most painful one in Vikings history.
Even as a kid in '90, I knew I was watching something special with that K-gun. Can you imagine if that Bills team played *now* in the league? Bruh, Jim Kelly would throw for 10,000 yards and 972 touchdowns. 😅
XXV was the first Super Bowl I intentionally watched as a kid. I remembered it mainly because of Hostetler. In my 11 year-old brain I thought that if a backup QB could win the Super Bowl, that my Cowboys should have a chance in the coming years.
This feels like an SB rewind
It's just happened AGAIN!!
Damn the locker room part actually jerked some tears from me. An actual team of adults or at least ones that are willing to stand up for the kicker rather than make shit worse than it already is.
According to defensive line coach Chuck Dickerson the Bills got so drunk the night before Super Bowl XXV one of the assistant coaches wandered off and got mugged. That explains all the dropped passes and missed tackles. Kelly actually played pretty well. Apparently he was the best drinker of the bunch.
I was a Bill's fan back in the day bc of Cornelius Bennett & being from AL although I'm an Auburn fan. My dad worked with Cornbread's uncle too.
As a Giants fan going into that super bowl that was a scary Bills team.
Bills could have been like the patriots. Vinatieri hit long fg in snow in AFC championship and long one in Super Bowl to win. Changed the course of history he missed, and now people don’t look at that team the same way anymore.
You have to do a part 2
Very true, See also the Bears implosion when they blamed the kicker for their play off loss instead of looking at all the mistakes that gone before .
It happened again 😔
As a young Patriots fan, I loved that moment because I was rooting against the Bills.
Bill did this kind of thing all his career, he honed in on the one thing the opposition wanted to do most and took it away. As an offensive coach you have got to be able to see 6 DBs on the field and punish them with the run game. It's not like they had chopped liver in the backfield, Thurman Thomas was a great running back.
the bills got out coached.
Five ,as a Giants fan, you know damn well.....we don't talk about Dave Meggett.
How bout that Wide Right last night😂💯
49ers were damn close to a threepeat that year, if Montana doesn't go down in the NFC Championship Game, they may have pulled it off.
Damn son... You trying to get the Mafia to powerbomb you through a table on to gravel?
Vikings fans 🤝Bills fans
Knowing the pain of 4 super bowl losses and a missed kick
FPV BANGER, y'all know the drill
in 1990 Bills Offense is a Run and Shoot offense. It was depended on Rhythm and high scoring. what the Giants do is slow the game down disrupt their Rhythm and keep the bills defense on the field and whare them down. Giants Running Backs were bruisers and their offense was built on a run first mentality. the Giants Defense was an aging defense but highly experienced also it had more pop to it because they were kept fresh..
Feel really bad for Scott Norwood. After he missed this kick his life went really downhill. He never played another snap in the league and was struggling financially for the rest of his life. If he made that kick his whole life would have been different
Norwood is a graduate of my alma mater, James Madison University. Many in Harrisonburg, VA, (where the campus is located) know Scott personally and have said he's one of the nicest guys you could ever meet. Sucks that it all came down to him. Wouldn't wish that on anyone.
for anyone who wasn't alive or old enough to remember that game - it stunned everyone that the Bills lost (except for the Giants, lol). The Bills were simply dominant throughout the season. It seemed like a lock they were going to win. The were reminiscent of the 49ers of the 80s - just dominating season after season. It still surprises me that team never won the Superbowl.
Exactly. I was a spoiled Bills fan during that era in regards that most games were blowouts…hate to admit it now but there were some games I didn’t even bother to watch because I knew it would be over by halftime. I honestly thought we would annihilate the Giants in the superbowl.
I know you're a Giants fan, so you must relish in this game. This video must have been super fun for you
I really hope the bills would of won that game, it’s a shame Norwood missed it
And it was the birth of underdog Giants winning SBs too
I wasn’t even alive to watch this live and it still hurts me
NEVER trust a kicker to win a game. It behooves you to score touchdowns. Buffalo lost that game by settling and thinking the offense would show up at some point.
I legitimately feel bad about making all the 0 for 4 jokes back in the day. No one deserves that kind of heartbreak. I really sincerely hope the Bills win one soon, I will cry for them. Everyone deserves one. The Red Sox got theirs, the Cubs did, and the Eagles. It's Buffalo's turn.
Well they did make millions to play with a ball & don’t care about you at all. So consider that.
@@Ivantheterrible81280he means for the fans, we don't get paid anything doofus, we are the ones that are suffering, not the rich players
@@Ivantheterrible81280 I meant the fans you doofus.
It was mentioned that there high security throughout the game and even a helicopter above the goalpost area which pushed it wide right.norwood start an AA for kickers after that.also great to see him included in the commercial this year.bills always cursed by oj.
Hey Five, also do the Seahawks pass and the Titans’ one yard short
I can’t wait for the update