Lilium Jet hits targeted maximum speed for the aircraft: 136kt
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- Опубліковано 20 бер 2023
- Proud to officially announce we’ve hit our targeted speed for our tech demonstrator Phoenix 2: 136kt (250 +km/h, 155 + mph).
This is meaningful as our target cruise speed at sea level for our confirming aircraft for will be up to: 155 mph / 250 km/h.
Our tech demonstrator hitting this target helps us to demonstrate stability and controllability of the aircraft and control software also in high speed and helps us towards certification of our conforming aircraft by validating our models in the high speed regime.
Flight details:
Flight Test Objective: Achieve top speed after full transition
Aircraft: Phoenix 2 Technology Demonstrator
Pilot: Remote
Location: ATLAS Flight test center, Spain
By popular demand, here is the full flight with basic flight information including speed data: • Lilium Jet hits target... - Авто та транспорт
Now THAT is how you do a demo video! No dodgy filters, no weird camera angles, no slow Mo drama stuff, no stupid music, no commentary.
What a breath of fresh air!
Congratulations on the flight test, looked amazing!
It's okay when it's balanced, and not over the top, but sometimes, yeah, it's cheesy
Agreed. But I would have liked to see airspeed and altitude displays.
it has jump cuts every few seconds.
a good demo would be showing them load the equivalent weight of passengers in it then a complete unedited shot of the entire flight from take off to landing. was this flight empty and for 3 minutes? can it lift people for 5 minutes?
@@BodhiPolitic id like to see the battery display
If you’re like me you are probably wondering exactly what this is. Well I googled it, and for those who don’t know this is the first electric vertical take off and flight (eVTOL) aircraft. Pretty neat!
Quite neat but not totally sure what the point is...
Almost like a helicopter
Thank you for that information
@@bagpussmacfarlan9008 A compact and electric flying car?
@@EduardoGomez-hw4cu It's got big wings!
Why aren't more people talking about the take off? That was amazing. Super fast and smooth transition out of the high-power take off phase as far as I can tell.
Watching the airflow indicators and seeing where the low-pressure vortexes form is pretty interesting. We use those same indicators on sailboat sails so we know how to adjust our trim as not to "spill air" which can lower speed/performance and damage the sailcloth if the wind vortexes are too strong.
Telltale. Old method.
Five minute, uninterrupted test video. What a treat.
0:07, 0:15, 0:21, 0:31, 0:37, 0:48, 0:53, that's 7 interruptions in just the first minute. They didn't even show an uninterrupted landing (5:05), so i almost wonder what it is they are trying to hide, and yes, i am fun at parties.
@@FredPlanatia you sure about your claim to be fun at parties
@@kingplays5369 As shure as you are a King.
@@FredPlanatia My uneducated guess would be they are hiding the telltale signs of turbulence in front of the moveable thrusters.
@@FredPlanatia Those are called scene cuts, interruptions mean stops (as in stops so that a big wig can talk marketing talk)
Congratulations to the whole team at Lilium! Keep going!! We believe in you.
I don't, at least I don't believe in the promised 7 seater when they can't even fly for 15 minutes with a single person on board right now!
Imagine this with 7 people on board over at least 50 km or more (e.g. from a city to an airport), no battery can deliver enough power for these small ducted fans that need to run at crazy RPMs because of their ridiculously small surface. But here with nobody on board, just the weight of the batteries as a first demo that this thing can do true horizontal flight, that is a good first step, which they desperately needed many years ago. That concept looks cool but is not practical for at least another decade to actually do what they promised to deliver.
I think some local RC model flying clubs have capable people who may be able to build something like this from scratch in a year or two if they work full time on it. I really wonder what they did with all these hundreds of people and hundreds of million € all these 7 years or more? They may have spent a lot of money on hiring expensive people from Airbus to make their project look legit with their names on it, so that investors with less aerodynamic knowledge as me may trust in Daniels cool looking dream.
Please give this thing much bigger fans, which will require redesigning the entire concept, cut it down to 4 or less passengers and make it actually happen ASAP if you want to get on the bandwagon and survive, else you will never make it out of the financial hole you have been digging yourself in.
@@n1vca I disagree. Battery technology is improving. Lithium Air batteries may be mass produced this year or next year with an energy density of double the current mass produced lithium ion batteries, with promise that the energy density will double again in the next 5 years. This is a brake through that could enable airplanes to fly short haul off batteries, so I think these guys will be fine. I believe many smaller fans is more efficient.
@@onlineo2263 Which batteries? Who is developing them?
@@onlineo2263 false
@@JCWolf73 good point, with a fuel cell you make this work, but then the cost of operation and the resources will skyrocket while needing its own very specific infrastructure.
Love it .A no BS video. Real Time. No music. No commentary . Perfect. Congratulations on this event👍
Best design I’ve seen. - JPF, Mechanical Engineer
I've been watching Lilium for years now. Congrats on your successful flight and look forward to booking a flight when you're up and running - hopefully very soon!
buy some stock. its 67 cents
Wow. Awesome to see that you are making progress and hitting your goals. Keep going. Love to see the Lilium Jets in our Skies.
Alongside the Zeppelins
Amazing! I would suggest for the following months that you upload a video showcasing the maximum range the model can reach, without cuts and with telemetry. If the battery cells provide 300-340 kwh/kg as seen on tests it should be able to provide 200 km in 45-50 minute video. I think that would convince a lot of naysayers. We belive in you!
this thing is amazing, mixing thrust vectoring and control surfaces in one!
Not sure why, but I’d love to see how quick it could go from top speed to a full stop. Watching those “wings” or whatever they’re called in action and how they function is way fascinating! Awesome job!
It wouldn't be very safe to attempt that. The craft would pitch up, stall, go out of control and crash.
@@saadisave I mean in one of their tests. Maybe not from top speed, but I’m sure they’ve had to do a test like that before. That would be awesome to see.
@@saadisave
The Harrier jump jet actually did this in combat
Well it's an airplane rather than a heli, so that sort of maneuver probably won't be on the cards. Usually canards, and ailerons, but, yes, what the heck might they be called when they are smothered in motors??? Motorducks? Motorons? 😅
@wordreet They would have to do a test from max speed to a hover. But, they more then likely did it on a simulator and then the put in logic into the controls that would limit the angle of the engines until air speed was safe to hover
wow! almost full envelope test! it was exciting seeing all the ribbons going straight, knowing that it was flying like a normal airplane.. sooo cool.
Pretty sure they are leeches holding for dear life
in the sailing community they call those ribbons telltales,
you often see them on the sails for boats so you can more easily see the direction of air currents when adjusting the sail, it really does help to optimize trim settings and get the most speed,
the way they stabilized throughout the flight it almost looked like the pilot was adjusting the panel trim until the airflow looked smoother similar to how you would trim with a sail,
You guys are checking all of the boxes. Love it!
Awesome you guys can't wait to see more progress!
Congrats Liilium. Would have loved to see the speed telemetry displayed
And please add battery State Of Charge (SOC), and instantaneous power draw in Kilowatts.
@@bryanlallen exactly my sentiments!
It's best not to give too much information even though intelligent people want to know the details. Self proclaimed analysts will use it to create a false narrative to mislead investors or create false negative rumors that support agendas or just click bait. Lilium should only release basic facts to prevent the rumor mill. For instance if Lilim released footage of noise readings of an early test bed designed purely to test hover even though the ducted fans didn't have nozzles or anechooic liners and other noise reduction methods some self proclaimed analyst would misuse it. Likewise with battery SOC. We now have batteries with 12X the 600 cycle life in the labs. These are complex engineering projects and elements are tested bit by bit.
-Besides these are propriety projects and the know how is property . Lilium investors have invested hundreds of millions in test beds and a flight test campaign to learn this information so instantaneous power draw and SOC gives huge amounts of information an competitor can use to get a design point.
@@bryanlallen I was wondering about these electrical parameters too....but it's VERY unlikely that we'll get such info because that would allow just about anyone to figure out that this vehicle will not be a viable working aircraft without massive 'quantum leap' type battery improvements. Try to get that Certified here in the USA and you legally need 1/2 hour reserve flight time beyond your destination....and this limits all EV aircraft at the moment to a very short flight duration which makes them pretty much an expensive toy.
@@bryanlallen Yeah that would be interesting, but also their main trade secret so why would they just disclose it?
Lilium as air ambulances! 👍👍👍
So nice to watch how smoothly it travels through the air. Landing with such ease as well. Reminds me of watching my favourite sci fi series , it's like the future is now ❤
I want pelicans from halo to be a real thing...
Any other airport traffic control tower: "YOU KNOW YOURE COMING IN AT THE TOTALLY WRONG ANGLE RIGHT?!"
Lilium pilot: "YEA...BUT WATCH THIS!!! FLIPS VTOL SWITCHES"
9 kids in either Africa or China died extracting enough lithium for the batteries in this plane! Awesome!
@@COORS5766 Don't worry. That batteries in this are made from baby seal pelts and not lithium.
@gwmjr111 10 neurons died when I read this comment, rip.
Great tufting work! Love seeing the actuation of the wings in real time.
Congrats Lilium! Amazing work & an amazing design!
Awesome, the only "flying object" of it's class that's not just a CGI rendering and actually conducts flight after flight! :)
Lilium is awesome. But they are not the only ones conducting successful test flight. Check out Beta Alia. They have flown (as a normal aircraft not evtol) from New York to Vermont. They have also had successful test flights as an evtol. I believe they are not yet transitioning in flight. But they will also get there.
Which is good. There needs to be some competition. And you are absolutely right: there is way too much cgi and to little actual aviation going on.
Well done! it's a very cool aircraft - I hope testing continues to go well
Great desmonstration. Great video, Great job!
Impressive. Something truly new and unique in aviation. Thanks for making the video available. It was absolutely thrilling to watch. I am still an active pilot at 79 yrs age and to see it all working with the tufts was great. You guys and gals deserve medals!
Please leave the sky, you are danger to yourself and others.
So exciting! How cool is that!
That was a wonderful flight! Thanks for this video!
Love me a 'rubber meets the road' tech demo, nothing but footage from launch to landing. Congrats on the milestone!
its deceptively edited clips arranged to look as good as possible. it shouldn't be considered a demonstration.
Phenomenal work, keep it up, Lilium! This is the future we've all been waiting for!
Nice work guys! There's people you've never met rooting for your success
I needed to see this happen. Keep going!
Congratulations keep up the amazing work!
So cool to see all the trim lines settle down at 137kts speed🎉
i love VTOL's so seeing this fly is so awesome!
That was an awesome demo flight! Great engineering.
That’s just awesome guys CONGRATULATIONS 🎉
Amazing! Congratulations to all the Team!
As a Brit I desperately want the option of taking evtols to mainland Europe.
Don't give up, Lilium.
I like the international flavor of this project. A Dutch registered company with bases in Germany and testing in Spain. The team is from everywhere (Swiss, British, German, Italian, Spnish and more) with a lot of key people from Britain. Credit to Daniel Weiland and the original 3 for such an inclusive project that every European (including post brexit UK) can feel proud and a part of.
@@williamzk9083 inclusive yes, profitabel . . . ?😢
@@williamzk9083 Agree. They're a great company. But they may run out of money :(
@@shoelessjoe428 They've just demonstrated transition and full speed flight. We will start getting more milestones reached that validate the design and provide the key data for a commercial product. There have also been battery breakthroughs demonstrating enhanced battery life (about 11 fold at 40C) that will ensure commercial success as it will allow eVTOLS to make 6000 of full range flights. I would think the quite , 'stealthy' possibilities might ensure some military funding.
Felt amazing... can't wait :)
that looks amazing! great job :)
Another impressive and successful test flight! Eventually work on getting it to self- fold into a briefcase...then we'll officially be in the future!
Schön zu sehen wie es weiter geht. Hoffentlich kommen bald weitere gute News.
Absolutely brilliant. Well done Lilium.
Looks like it's working well.
Can't wait to see more on this.
Congratulations.
With news of Amprius creating 500w/kg batteries - we aren't far from actual commercial electric flight! This is awesome. Thanks for the progress video!
Do we know if those batteries are actually hitting those figures on more than one cycle? They might be single use for spacecraft etc.
@@Username-qx9gk We've had single use batteries with 500wh/kg for years, so no, they definitely aren't.
@@swecreations But maybe those batteries couldn't deliver massive current like the newer chemistries? I have a suspicion these are just really high strung lipos that take a beating hitting that number, maybe also some clever design like tabless pouch
@@Username-qx9gk 'are just really high strung lipos' Actually if it's the one I saw a video on a few days ago, they redid one of the electrodes to bypass the normal limitation of lithium cell electrodes. Normal maximum was like 280 or 360 max, and these could do 500.
Promising, but there is still a jump to make from 'it works in lab level samples' to 'we can make tons of them cheaply'.
Silicon based though, so a material that is cheap, abundant, and is already well understood and handled. So we might eventually see this one come to market.
@@ModelLights Was it Sandy Monro? Saw that too, they quickly mentioned something about an issue still being working on where the silicon crystals fail, or something to that effect. Not sure, I get graphene nanotube battery type vibes
How cool is this! Just the tell tails are fascinating!
i look forward to watching this develop with great interest
Love it, well done everyone!!
So beatifull to see! Awesome!
Smooth as it flies it looks beautiful well done
Well done team Lilium!!
Great job! I liked especially to see that the airflow on both frontal and rear wings became stable at cruise speed. I guess that was one of the bigger questions that needed answered as it otherwise would seriously impacts top speed and efficiency.
Amazing work, congrats!!
One of the coolest things I’ve seen in a long time
So cool to see this beautiful machine in action. Keep posting these progress videos. Cannot wait for the sky to be filled with these.
That sounds terrible.
Forever is a long time to wait.
Now that right there, is a genuine game changer. I hadn’t heard of this before. They should see if Microsoft are interested in modelling this in FS (and raise awareness of its existence). Best of luck, and safe flying 👍
A great test flight video, no fuss. Congratulation on the flight test!
It’s a brilliant aircraft!!! Congratulation!!!
She really can move it! More please!
very intersting concept, first time coming across this!
Found the fluctuations in airflow very interesting. Lovely video. Thanks 👍
Absolutely fantastic time to be in Aviation imo. And I'll echo the wonder that is a test video, uninterrupted, no goofy soundtrack.
Some of us like the wind noise.
It's pretty amazing how all those little bits of wire make it fly for so long ...
Bruh
LOL, I managed to get 2 in 24 hours. 🤣🤣🤣 The internet is just too easy!
🤣🤣🤣 Got em 😂🤣🤣
@@noomade I knew you were trolling
You did get apostle tho
That is some awesome looking new tech!
Congrats on achieving this milestone. One question: is the frequent micro-vectoring of thrust in S&L (straight and level flight) due to the lack of trim adjustment?
I wasn't able to identify any trim tabs as in conventional aircraft so possible it requires the micro adjustments for trim and they appear to act as the entire control surface also.
Might be more of a fly-by-wire trim. Commercial airliners don’t have trim tabs either.
@@McPebbster some do, dash8 and some regional aircraft use mechanical trim tabs for flight controls
@@McPebbster 737 have trim tabs and full moving elevators.
Ottimo lavoro, continuate così! Il Jet ha delle linee bellissime e il concept è fantastico. Sono convinto che sarete i protagonisti del volo elettrico e che i Jet Lilium saranno il top del settore. Buon lavoro a tutto il team!
So you seem to know, energy efficient lightweight batteries for the Lilium jet? 🤔
So cool! Well done! 🎉
Spectacularly well made video of test flight. What a great aircraft.
1:20 crazy how stable those markers are on those rear parts😳🤯
watching the markers stabilize at 1:32 immediately after they stop climbing is also super cool
they''re called telltails :). They've been used to tweak airflow since the age of sail
@@RobertFletcherOBE i know why they are used. I fly Rc planes myself and i experimented with a lot of wingprofiles on gliders too. So its nessecary to know whats going on with the airflow
Why no flight data?
Bravo. Genial. No matter with or without Flyers, Display, Weight etc. This is an incredible new invention
Looked rock solid and smooth as glass
Very unique design, I'm intrigued & nicely done!
Increadibly clever design! You can see how airflow is attached to the top of the wing even at hover due to that effect that i forgot the name of, so the wing never stops producing lift and helps with the efficiency of hover, i also love how the motor gondola can swivel so far back that the thrust is reversed and actually slows down the aircraft and can push it backwards without having to tilt the whole a backwards like with multirotors. I'm so excited about the future of Lilium!
Good catch, didn't think about that. I would love to know how much that effect contributes to lift compared to if it didn't do it.
@@faluffel First time I notice this effect. Trying to understand it: If the wing wasn't there, more air around the fan would move upwards "through the wing" before going downwards through the fan. Air being pulled up means the aircraft being pushed down.
Coanda effect
There is a great about the aircrafts design that is pushing into new areas. The Coanda effect has been used on some Russian jets but not covering nearly as much of the wingspan. I hope they succeed with commercializing their craft.
@@nickaxworthy1572 Dyson effect?
Impressive. Thank you.
Absolutely Brilliant!
Amazing that the test area doesn't even have outs for emergency landing.. I know it is a VTOL but still! great work! looking forward to be flying in on within my lifetime :)!~
It’s a drone. If it crashes in the test area it will just hit the ground. Where’s the deal?
Very cool. I wonde what the energy consumption is at cruise.
Amazing 😍 - subscribed.
That was incredible !! I want one.
This is a truly remarkable aircraft. A work of art!
Congrats!
I have a technical question: Why is the upper surface of the engine cowling not curved like the top of an airfoil? There seem to be a lot of flow separation going on, with a more curved upper surface + some vortex generators perhaps the total lift may be increased and the drag reduced in the transitional phase.
probably because it's optimised for forward flight. having a curved surface on the cowling would increase performance at high angles of attack but would create a higher frontal cross section at low angles of attack. Considering takeoff and landing are probably going to be a small percentage of total flight time, it might not be worth it.
@@Ikaros--- Correct me if I'm wrong, didn't they already travel at cruise speed in this test? There still was a lot of flow separation happening, even at that relatively low angle of attack. Especially when power is limited, i.e. though battery failure or electric power interruptions it could mean a few extra Newtons of valuable lift.
@@Jet-Pack at 1:45 to 1:55 you can see the optimal flow conditions for both front and rear wings at cruise speed, seems pretty stable to me.
while transitioning to hovering the flat surface could act as an aerobrake, making vertical landings a lot easier as it requires less space to decelerate. Any extra lift you'd gain from the cowling would only be effective during this transition period where the engines are pointing around 45 degrees. This might be good for short takeoffs or during a sudden loss of power, but would reduce overall range at max cruising speed.
While in vertical flight at around 5:00, you can see there is stable flow around the cowlings. adding an airfoil would possibly affect the intake air flow. The flat cowlings should provide extra thrust in this mode like a high bypass turbofan, compared to airfoils which might disrupt the thrust vector by curling air around the engine and into the exhaust.
Indeed , we see a lot of separated flow on the canard. Not bothering about trust, the drag increase is a point.
I tested the effect, see : ua-cam.com/video/CnWcAfEeEgE/v-deo.html
With attached flow the glider sinks 1.3 m/s. In partitially stalled condition : 4 m/s. Three times the drag is generated by a 50% separated flow.
I estimated that the stalled canard (in most of the flight conditions, except full speed flight) reduces the battery endurance with 25%.
The upper lip of the canard has to be bent down (droop nose), or equipped with vortex generators, as demonstrated.
Good question. I believe the cowling is optimised for engine airflow. Not lift. The front part of the wing provides sufficient lift.
Terrific machine - congrats
Congrats, looking good.
Congrats, and thanks for sharing!
I wonder if thiskind of terrain is ideal for low level test flights in case of emergency landing.
Well, it's a big orchard, there's enough space between the trees to rescue crew but also a good chance of the trees catching the aircraft and dampening its crash, so I would say it couldn't be better
I'm a simple man. I see Lilium hit a new milestone, I get ever more excited for the future.
Keep going people. Instead of people protesting and whinging about things not getting done, you are doing it, you’re advancing the human race and you get my thumbs up. Well done from Australia
Enfin, c'est fait, bravo.
It is great to see laminar flow over both the main wing as well as the canard in cruise, as well as (at least in appearance) of smooth transition in all flight realms.
Seems to me the canard has turbulent flow most of the time with what looks like a fairly high angle of attack on the thruster/aileron. There might be some fore and aft balancing to be done to reduce the front weight.
turbulent flow.
@@Awol991 Also, can this thing glide in for an un-powered landing? It looked like if it didn't have powered lift, those canards would be substantially stalled in low speed flight (significant controllability concern). And the landing gear doesn't look like it could handle forward flight landing loads... or even a rapid trip across the grocery store parking lot. Don't get me wrong, this is cool. But there are a lot of new failure modes that need to be mitigated before customer delivery.
Impressive. I wonder how you have designed for different weather conditions (rain, hail, snow), or will it be a fair weather flyer?
This is what I’ve been waiting to see as far as future travel.
just watched this and am amazed at the development and seeing how it functions and acheiving full speed and functionality on testing .What is your target range and flight duration for this aircraft and its carrying capacity,the future is here .Congratulations to you all ,pioneers in a new field of aviation .
Nice flight! Be interesting to see the glide performance in forward flight if those fans stopped (i.e. as a safety case in the even of power loss) ... I seems it would be like hanging 2 barn doors in the airflow. And, I wonder how reliant the authority of the ailerons and canards is on the fans being powered, as opposed to stopped/failed?
Ditto
@@bigjoer6887 I dunno, do the blades freeze or freewheel without power?
Not sure that would be a pretty sight.
I would guess there's redundancy so some motors can be lost etc.
@@tomsherwood4650 Depends on the failure mode of the electrics. If the motor has a dead short on their supply, then they will be locked or very hard to windmill!
The Aircraft has 30 Engines. Probably multiple batteries, I think a few failures wouldn’t result in a crash. At a Failure point it may not be able to do a VTOL Landing, but could probably do a runway landing.
Congratulations, more please.
Thanks for the uninterrupted ( without any stupid music ) views if the flight. Well done
Why is the stock price below a dollar ? $0.79
Great, what is the next step?
Wow, I'm shocked. So wonderful, great design.
that is some impressive engineering. really cool