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When Dave said he still struggles to see the difference between the legal and illegal, he's completely on the money. A lot of us have been watching for decades, and although some moves are pretty egregious, there's so many moves that are really hard to spot in real time, or right on the edge of being illegal, to the point where it's hard to tell if your mind is playing tricks on you or not. Especially since everyone does these moves, you get used to it just being normal.
Especially since dribbling got so crazy in the 90's. Even the NBA decided calling the carry was to difficult and kind of did away with it.
@@user-lf7nf3kl7t the carry is a point of emphasis this season, we’re seeing some of the most travel and carry calls in NBA history so far this season.
@@PapaGirth69420 There was a Warriors game I watched a week or two ago where Jordan Poole was called for something like a carry, I think it was discontinuous dribble, that I don't remember seeing before. And it happened to him three times that game and he just looked like what the hell is happening. And when they slowed it down I was thinking yeah the makes sense but everyone does that.
One of the reasons I stopped watching the NBA was the blatant rule breaking being normalized and even applauded.
Faxx, when you do a fade away you basically always pick up your pivot foot so you could say that's a travel every time without the step-thru rule
There’s honestly a lot of basketball fans who also can’t tell the difference between a travel and non-travel and that’s even with the benefit of slow-motion replay. To have to make these calls in real time is extremely difficult.
But anyone can see the step back or to the side before a shot. No one wants to see a 7 footer doing it to a 6.4 guard.
It's painfully obvious to anyone who has ever played basketball before.
We all see it. Old school fans like me are impressed with some shooting but the game is trash
Those aren’t fans. Those are Johnny. One latelys who probably never picked up a basketball before
@@sshimmy2258 My dad used to play basketball back in the 70’s. Anytime I’ve watched a game with him (not many) he always laughs at what we get away with when it comes to carrying the ball. I don’t think you could even have your hand perpendicular to the ground while dribbling back then, ha.
Love the basketball videos guys 👍
11:30 - Daz nails it.
It has been a slow regression over the years, now the offense can do whatever it likes basically. The NBA wants high scores, so we get garbage basketball. The defense pretty much has to play with their hands tied behind their backs, you can't breathe on the guy with the ball or they call a foul.
Yet year after year defensive players and teams prove this completely wrong in the playoffs. If defense had eroded that badly then the average championship team wouldn't be a top 3 defense in the modern era but they are.
@@derpderpin1568 Top 3 defense in the modern era????? the modern era?
First off, I didn't say defense had eroded, I was saying the NBA started officiating it differently. Modern era has offensive players throwing themselves at the defenders and getting foul calls, in the good old days they were called offensive fouls.
It doesn't matter if the NBA is geared towards offense or defense the best defensive teams are normally the most competitive.
The fact that you had to clarify your comment with the 'modern era' proves my point. The 'modern era' is different, it's officiated to give all the benefits to the offense. In the 90s and earlier it was the opposite, a defense could smother an offense and hold them to under 90ppg. Now a 'great' defense can only slow a team down to like 110ppg.
Also, 'the playoffs' are closer to the old school bball, the refs don't call as much as the regular season. So the defense can get a little more physical.
It's not rocket science.
@@Schiltzenberger On your point about holding teams under 90ppg. That mostly has to do with the pace of the league than anything. The early mid 2000s to early 2010s produced the lowest pace in NBA history so those games were naturally low scoring and the players naturally scored less because of less opportunity. If you just look at the 80s' scores then you'd see a lot of similar scores since the pace in that era is close to what it is now. The league obviously has changed the game to gear towards more leniency on the offense but that isn't close to everything there is to it. Pace is the leading factor to everything. Pace allowed Wilt to have enough possessions to avg 50, same way it disallowed certain players from doing things that would be easier in other eras, not just the current one.
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A thing you have to realize about the NBA for some context.... the league nowadays leans more towards the entertainment sector, rather than a pure sports competition. Calling these travels go against the entertainment factor priority. These iso moves bring in views.
Hey guys you're only allowed 2 STEPS on any level of basketball...you guys need to do a reaction video to the fundamental rules of Basketball and all your questions will be answered.
The reason Jxmyhighroller pointed out 3 or 4 steps in this video is because it is a travel if you take more than 2 and NBA players have been getting away with it for years.
Two steps allowed once the ball is picked up
The rule is applied based on whether you pick up your dribble on the run, or if you've stopped moving.
ON THE RUN: The rule is two steps once you've picked up your dribble. The catch here is what's called the "gather step." The rules assume that guys on the run - especially the really quick ones - will actually get a step, possibly two, just in the process of stopping the dribble and "gathering " the ball in their hands to shoot it. So the interpretation of the rule has typically been applied to "once the ball is gathered in the hands" to make a play. Obviously, this has many basketball fans pulling their hair out, because they see at least three steps (with the "quick feet" guys, possibly a fourth) happen by the time they go up for a shot. It can be infuriating, because they take the letter of the rule, and leave out the gather step part of the rule, because they think players abuse it and refs allow it to be abused. They're NOT wrong, but not exactly correct, either.
STOPPED MOVING: The rule is still two steps, but now there's a "pivot foot" in the conversation. If you're moving and dribbling, and you stop directional/vector movement, and you're essentially in one place, you can start moving again, as long as you didn't stop dribbling. BUT, if you've picked up your dribble, now you're stuck. You only get two steps, but here's the catch: When you pick up one foot, the other foot becomes your "pivot" foot - you CANNOT switch pivot feet, by bringing the first step back and then going the other direction with the other foot. This means, by default, your pivot foot HAS to be your second step. For example: You pick up your dribble, and you're stopped. You haven't moved your feet yet. The defender is on your left hip. So you lean in and step to him with your right foot to back him off. In doing this, you've made your left foot your "pivot" foot. You can spin around in a full circle on that pivot foot three times if you want, planting your right foot to push off for another full circle, it's completely legal. But the moment THAT pivot foot comes off the floor, you cannot take another step with your right foot. Your right foot is that first step, no matter how many maneuvers you do on the left "pivot" foot - because you picked the right foot up first, it's your first step for the duration of the ball being in your hands. Which means - by default - your left "pivot" foot is the second step. So if you make a maneuver, push off the pivot foot onto the right foot as the first step, you can only plant your pivot foot and shoot or pass the ball. If your right foot takes another step, that's a third step, it's a travel. Same applies in reverse, it just depends on which foot you pick up first to determine which is the pivot foot.
And so a lot of these "step-back" shots you're seeing in the video, utilize what's called a "JAB" step. The idea is you jab, then step back to shoot. The jab is the first step, the step-back is the second. Technically, a step-back is in itself TWO steps. You take a big step backwards and then plant your second foot for balance, so you can shoot. So the entire idea of executing the step-back shot is to not gather your dribble until you've made the jab step first - then pull up the dribble on the step-back and shoot. What these guys are doing is stopping movement, THEN faking a jab (which ESTABLISHES A PIVOT), and THEN doing a step-back shot, which to remind you IS A TWO-STEP SHOT. So faking the jab with the right foot (left becomes pivot) is the first step, then pushing off the right foot and doing a step-back (left pivot foot is the second step), planting right foot for balance and shot is the third step.
But some of these guys are going even further. Look close: They'll jab with a foot, bring the OTHER foot in with it, so they can maintain balance (remember, this all tends to happen VERY quickly) and get a bigger push off on the step-back - but now they've already taken two steps before they've even gone into the step-back - which means they've taken four steps. That's what that first guy in the video did. And yes, the NBA refs let players get away with it all the time.
The ball starts dirbbling once it hits the ground. The ball stops dribbling when you gather the ball. You gathered the ball is when you hold it with both hands, you passed the ball from one hand to the other, or you put your hand under the ball.
Essentially, you are not allowed to interrupt/break the dribbling. Up until that point, you can take as many steps as you want. When you got to that point, you can only take 2 steps further.
If you dribble the ball after gathering, that is called "double dribble". If you take more than 2 steps before (hit the ground) or after the dribble (gather), that is called "traveling/travelling".
If the ball is still going up, you haven't really gathered the ball yet because the dribble is still live and had not yet stopped. So, if you can time it perfectly, you can have an extra step (0 step).
been hoping yall would react to this one! clears up all the travel confusion yall have had in the past, and showing why it doesn't always get called
Jimmy Highroller makes the best basketball content by far
NBA stopped calling travel when And1 Mixtape got popular. No travel in And1 and it was gaining a huge audience so NBA responded by calling less on their superstars to appease the audience.
My girlfriend said she wanted to travel more. I said "baby, pick up a basketball and take 3 steps."
At what point does a game need skilled players to be actually skilled?!!
As someone who grew up watching basketball in the 90's and early 2000's I appreciate the slower style of play from that era and while I understand why the league relaxed on a lot of rules to make the game more marketable, you can't convince me that a lot of the players today who are offensive machines would strive on those prior eras. On the other hand players who were clearly more fundamentally sound like MJ, Magic, Kareem, Bird, Pippen, Drexler, etc would absolute make a killing in today's NBA!
WRONG!!
This why I love guys who know how to use footwork mj Kobe and Hakeem are the best at it
All NBA games now look like All Star games when it comes to the travel and carry moves they get away with.
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Daz is right. These rule breaks happen way more often in the modern game.
that’s literally the whole premise of the video… wdym “Daz is right” 😂😭
@@B___848 You're right. I replied like 2 minutes into the video only to quickly learn that my comment was unnecessary. 🤷🏾♂️
The NBA rarely calls travelling. And yep, all of these multi-step step-back shots are travelling. Yet another reason why today's stars would do shite in the glory days of the NBA, the 80's and 90's. These guys would be in shambles from actual defense and hand checking as well. Jordan would average 50 today and Bird would make modern players question their own parents love for them.
If they aren't going to call them, they need to remove the rule.
In basketball, the rule was when I was taught, you can pivot, but cannot MOVE POSITION or have both feet leave the floor once without dribbling. Regardless of how many steps it takes you to do your signature shot. Dibble step, dribble step, pivot, pivot, dribble step. You cannot go step step dribble.
The ball hitting the floor is what ALLOWS you to move. Not the other way around. If the ball takes 2-3 step worth of your time to hit the floor, then you are traveling or just going too fast. Until the ball hits the floor, your feet should not be going anywhere
Even the "gather step" they explain is not a legal move, just so commonly practiced and broken, and fundamentally skipped over in the athlete's training. YES the are letting newer generations get away with more and more to make EVERYTHING easier.
Cheaters, all high paid cheaters.
11:14. New school moves/rules 100%
I'll put it this way...1980's basketball probably had more in common with 30s/40's basketball than it does with the basketball of today. (As far as play style/ rule bending goes)
There’s more dribble moves and combinations that I can write on a list. They are very subtle and have slight variations. Almost like skateboarding tricks
The game has just developed and everyone is an elite scorer. That’s why it’s harder to win these days because of how much people get away with but it’s more entertaining
This video shows why when people go on about the great scorers of today i just take it with a pinch of salt. It makes average players superstars, why is why people can say and get away with crazy stuff, for example I saw someone say Ja Morant is a better scorer then Paul Pierce on another video's comments, which is just madness on every level.
and it's why, when we say Kobe is one of the greatest scorers ever (understatement), it MEANS something
The officiating in basketball at all levels is so arbitrary it's ridiculous and is why NBA tries to keep referee crews a secret for as long as possible because who is officiating the game will effect the betting line
I watch Jimmy's videos but I am glad I waited. Watching videos with you all is as good as watching with friends.
I also admire there are different levels of understanding from each of you that helps me understand from a different viewpoint.
Reggie Miller is one who has said the step back of today is a travel but it’s the same step back he, Bird(who supposedly invented the move) and others did it. That Harden one they showed was definitely a travel. He took 3 steps. You have to take 2 steps on about every gather whether you’re moving toward the rim or away from it. He didn’t show any step backs from the 80’s and 90’s. Why not? Cuz a Bird, Miller, or others step back or side step is the same as a Luka step back except that Luka has a deeper step back than most. You are allowed 2 steps. 3+ like a Harden or Lebron and others do on the regular should be called.
If Red Bull racing and Christian Horner are not featured I’ll be disappointed
Travelling, carrying & charging are rarely called anymore.
Once you pick up your dribble if you establish a pivot foot. Only one foot must stay planted. You can't change pivot foot that is a step
see one thing the guy making the video has gotten wrong is the rules on traveling. once you pick up the ball you are allowed 2 steps and must shot or pass but there's no rule about how many steps you can take between dribbles. so if your fast enough or smooth enough you can take more then one or two steps between each dribble. and since they don't call carry anymore even more steps can be taken but its not a travel.
And this is honestly why players mostly don’t even bother playing defense anymore. Why bother? The league doesn’t consider defense exciting.
One of the best and easiest ways to spot a carry is if the person dribbling has their hand or middle knuckle facing the court. That’s the golden rule or pretty much if the outside of their hand is facing the floor.
TRAVELING-Once you stop your dribble you have to stay on your pivot foot and once your heel is on the floor you cannot move it unless in a jumping motion.
That first vid, yes that kid traveled.... todays NBA players get away with that move all the time, but those that know how to play the game of basketball the right way knows that that move IS traveling
I learned at about 8 years old that NBA actually allows an extra step, or 6. That's why its allowed in the NBA.
These were called back in the 90’s. With the explosion of the NBA in popularity the lack of rule enforcement changed. Other rules have also changed. Ie; moving pick, goal tending, also charging and hacking fouls are now called more often.
Another thing to consider is the physical nature of these players in relation to these rules. These players are just so much bigger than the average person. So, how much easier is it for them to carry with one hand and move 6 ft with one step.
My Wife and I BOTH noticed they are carrying and traveling all over the place in the NBA now
Traveling is trickier but carrying is easy to spot. If your hand cups the ball palms up then it's a carry.
I haven't watched basketball since I was like 12 or 13 and I turned a game on a few days ago at 35. I was freaking out about everything. I honestly can't watch modern ball. I think I'll just go watch some old dream team games.
The reason i stopped watching basketball was becuase all the new playes think they are better than the previous generations while being allowed to break rules. While the defence is not allowed to do anything. The game is soft. It is a different game from the time of the actual goats like Kobe and Jordan.
Traveling and carrying/palming the ball is out of control in the NBA, and it’s bleeding into the college game.
you’d think that nba players would get called for more travels in international games but it’d not really noticeable.. which means they can play without travelling lol
You are allowed to take 1 step, then a jump. You can only take one step if you don't jump. As long as the second foot is not lifted up it is called a pivot
A step is a step. Can't take three steps without bouncing the ball at least once. It's by the literally definition of the word bounce... the ball must BOUNCE off the floor to be considered a BOUNCE.
There are injuries that can occur when the defense is trying to guard the illegal moves. With all the injures that are happening more often, I'd rather have more whistles/turn overs in a game than injuries that may shorten or even end a career. Thats just my opinion
Thanks mom
You guys should watch "The Legion of BOOM Official Highlight Reel | NFL Highlights". One of the best, if not the best defense in nfl history.
You're allowed to take 2 more steps if you're long jumping.
Do Tennessee vs Alabama college football or day in the life of a 5 star recruit for college football
I know jimmy didnt mention Harden and not traveling in the same sentence.
these lax rules is why the US Olympic basketball team is not as prepared for tightly called Olympic games as they use to be.
They loved picking on Iverson because he was a "thug" in the eyes of the NBA. He couldn't get any respect with his play.
The Kawhi play I don’t don’t think was a travel, he just slowed down his dribble. Pretty much at any level, if you replay and slow down footage, you probably will find some sort of traveling going on almost every play. This guy who made the video, seemed like he never played organized bball before. The definition of carrying the ball can be very judgmental and complex.But the basic is if your hand isn’t underneath the ball enough, then it’s not a carry. But then you also got the factor of high dribble, which by right is a dribble that reaches the height of your shoulder and that will also lead to traveling if more than 2 steps was taken. Moves like spin move and and some cases between the legs dribble requires a level of carrying the ball. With that being said though, the NBA is famous for allowing travel calls go. MJ was notorious for taking more than 2 steps.
Yes they're all travels. The league has to decide if it's gonna change the rule between seasons cuz it let Harden get away with it and now everyone's adopted it.
The video beats a dead horse. Show someone in the league explaining the change in officiating.
It’s sad that the NBA is becoming more of a business than a game and as a result less enjoyable
NBA should cut the crap and just let players stop dribbling entirely
Iverson is my favorite player of all time
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These were for sure being called about 8-10 years ago. He was right when he said Harden popularized it.
some steps are a half
inch off the floor and are hard to call
The highly flexible rules and heavy leaning towards sensation over actual quality, appropriate (as per the league rules) play is a huge reason why I've never enjoyed basketball.
Granted, no sport is perfect, but bball is especially egregious, imo
NBA stopped calling traveling when MJ was playing because ratings skyrocketed. It ruined the game. Stopped being a team sport and became a clear-out for a one-on-one attack
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Ya'll should look up the Houston Astros cheating scandal
Ja morant is agreegious though. I mean agreegious!!
It's sad when they call it on non superstar while steph and others can do it all the time.
Hey guys could you please react to Tom MacDonald fighter.
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Why not just skip the draft kings ad?
The 1994 Dream Team was the peak of NBA.
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Ur only allowed 2 steps per dribble
Yes travelling was called more years ago. The NBA is complete trash now.
Why didn't you cut someone else's paid add out of your own video?
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Another reason to not watch the NBA.
I never watch the nba anymore. The rules are so unfairly called depending on the player. Blatant fouls to constant double dribbles. If you don’t want the rule change it otherwise follow it
This is not a good video! The guy that made this video must've had a dry spell of ideas for videos. These moves have been made since, at least, the mid 70s. It's the only way I know the NBA to be. It used to be a known joke that these moves aren't called in the NBA. It's just happened for so many decades, that the joke is stale now.
James Harden single handedly ruined the league with this. His stepback got to popular to get called for a violation. Like the Warriors with the 3pt shot if you cant beat em join em