Without Pininfarina, Ferrari doesn’t know to reinvent new style ( Testarrossa, F40, Enzo…). Just need to copy the past, like a simple preparator. Not hard job just marketing.
Your interviewees always seem to enjoy the intelligent thoughtfulness of your questions! Have been reading automotive magazines for decades and quite particular about which journalists I watch - and have been pleasantly surprised by the depth of content of your channel and the your insightfulness. Wishing your channel the best, and so hope it gets the exposure it definitely deserves.
Your camera needs to shoot at least a few frames of the entire car at the same time, without the interview in front of it. There is not a full profile shot in the video. B-roll matters.
Thanks for your comment, Craig. The way I understood it is that, while acknowledging the front fascia has links to the Daytona, Andrea is saying that they didn't use that car as a starting point. In other words, they didn't set out to make a modern-day Daytona
I am 72 I got to drive a Daytona back in the late 70s. It was a wonderful car and deserves the homage this design gives it. 812 and F12 didn't appeal to me like the original GTO, 275 GTB and the 599.
Un diseño absolutamente maravilloso,a la altura de los mejores modelos de Ferrari de los años 50, años 60 ó 70 del siglo pasado. En mi opinión muy superior a los actuales coches deportivos italianos de las marcas de la competencia. Bravo Ferrari!!!!
@@AmukelaniHNkuna Yes, absolutely. This is what I had asked him to do (focus in on elements being referred to) but I think my brief got lost in translation to the Italian videographer
@@mickfoluv Unfortunately, I have to agree. I had asked him to zoom in on whatever design element was being talked about. I think my brief was lost in translation
The idea of trying to keep it simple is great but it doesn't work entirely. The rear looks odd. And I still don't understand why it needs 9500 rpm to make only 30hp more than its predecessor did at 8600 rpm.
@@alastairfaulds8184 Can you imagine how the V12 would sound at 9,500rpm? Just think back to the days of naturally aspirated F1 cars and how glorious they sounded at 17,000rpm
On a separate note, here's a piece I wrote on Ferrari's new e-building and future powertrain strategy... www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/new-ferrari-e-building-will-propel-it-into-a-new-era-146498/
He is correct that it isn't inspired by the Daytona. It is officially inspired by the Ferrari 365 GTB/4. The name Daytona was never applied to the vehicle by Ferrari. The Daytona name was created by the media. Till this day, Ferrari never called the 365 GTB/4 a Daytona. Even the official Ferrari website doesn't use the term Daytona.
Seeing as the 12Cilindri has some clear visual links with the Daytona, here's a video I made on the yesteryear classic... ua-cam.com/video/ryxOwJxtCP4/v-deo.htmlsi=B3yHCKRagPWX_Lhh
I think it's worrying that the head designer dresses so badly. A designer has to have a certain style, whatever it may be, but he has to know how to dress.
Reason why not successor to the ferrari 812? 12Cilindri = New Ferrari 365 GTB 2024 with 812 = New Lamborghini Countach 2022 with Aventador Attention, was and always will be V12 Engine and also V8 and V6.
@@ahimeirhadad4836 It's a completely new car, it's just taking inspiration for its front design from the 365 gtb/4. It's like saying the revuelto is a new countach because it has a wedge shaped design. Stop with your fakery!
The comments were interesting and plentiful, but why were the elements talked about never clearly shown ? The coupé was always partially filmed only, the opening mechanism process of the clamshell bonnet not shown either, nor were the freed wheel arches revealing the suspensions. Sorry, but this was of very little interest because there was practically nothing to look at. Things got better with the Spyder version of the car, but on the whole, a rather disappointing video. 🧐
@@carfan3762 Thanks for your feedback. All valid points. To answer your question: I was working with the videographer provided on the day by the manufacturer. I did ask him to focus more on the cars than the two talking heads and to zoom in whenever a particular aspect of the car was being spoken about. However, the message obviously didn't get through, and this may have been partly due to the language barrier. Can understand your frustration (I was too when I first saw the footage) but hope you got some value out of the vid anyway
@@GautamSharma99991 Thank you for the explanation. Sorry to learn that you weren’t listened to. Yes, the content was fine and interesting. Just the filming which was rather lousy. Nothing for Ferrari to be proud of. 😎
@@alpi57 Yes, fair comment. This is the exact brief I gave the videographer, but I think my instructions were lost in translation (he was Italian, and I don't speak Italian)
So many angry comments from people who do not know and understand Ferrari as a car manufacturer. If you don’t like it then don’t buy if you are able to afford one 😂.
Beautiful car but did he just say with a straight face that it wasn’t inspired by the 365 Daytona? Everything that came out of his mouth afterwards was an insult to everyone’s intelligence
He is correct that it isn't inspired by the Daytona. It is officially inspired by the Ferrari 365 GTB/4. The name Daytona was never applied to the vehicle by Ferrari. The Daytona name was created by the media. Till this day, Ferrari never called the 365 GTB/4 a Daytona. Even the official Ferrari website doesn't use the term Daytona.
The Unibrow looks old and simpel! The Black blob at the back is not nice! The exterior design is a 4,5/10, not a convincing design, even a bit weak! Tech and performance is spot on, 9/10 This 12 Cilindri will only look ok in black!
@@oscarsambo9981 I don't think he's lying. He acknowledged that the front fascia has links to the Daytona, but he's clarifying that the 12Cilindri wasn't conceived to be a modern-day Daytona
Why would they be lying? it make nonsense. If it was a tribute to the Daytona, they would have said it. Do you really think that Ferrari is a car manufacturer that would hide behind lies because of being ashamed to give tribute to one of their cars which contributed to their sport legacy?
He is correct that it isn't inspired by the Daytona. It is officially inspired by the Ferrari 365 GTB/4. The name Daytona was never applied to the vehicle by Ferrari. The Daytona name was created by the media. Till this day, Ferrari never called the 365 GTB/4 a Daytona. Even the official Ferrari website doesn't use the term Daytona.
Without Pininfarina, Ferrari doesn’t know to reinvent new style ( Testarrossa, F40, Enzo…). Just need to copy the past, like a simple preparator. Not hard job just marketing.
Nice to hear the thought process behind the design of the car
🙌🙏
I love the designer's vibe - he's like, "Lol, they keep making my drawings..Best Life!"
Your interviewees always seem to enjoy the intelligent thoughtfulness of your questions!
Have been reading automotive magazines for decades and quite particular about which journalists I watch - and have been pleasantly surprised by the depth of content of your channel and the your insightfulness.
Wishing your channel the best, and so hope it gets the exposure it definitely deserves.
@@ramyalani Thank you for your kind words 🙏. Really glad you enjoy my content
My god I want this car.
Beautifully explained even for a lay person just watching a car interview.
Thank you
Your camera needs to shoot at least a few frames of the entire car at the same time, without the interview in front of it. There is not a full profile shot in the video. B-roll matters.
@@mtnvalley9298 Fair comment
Great Review keep the good work up
Stopped listening when he said the fascia wasn’t inspired by the Daytona…
Thanks for your comment, Craig. The way I understood it is that, while acknowledging the front fascia has links to the Daytona, Andrea is saying that they didn't use that car as a starting point. In other words, they didn't set out to make a modern-day Daytona
You mean when you realised you will never own one! 😂
@@mickq1285 Don’t project.
@@CraigPulliam i've one coming, can't wait. 😉
@@CraigPulliam 🤣
I am 72 I got to drive a Daytona back in the late 70s. It was a wonderful car and deserves the homage this design gives it. 812 and F12 didn't appeal to me like the original GTO, 275 GTB and the 599.
It's starting to grow on me, but still, i will always prefer the old ferrari designs, not that im financially capable of buying one 😅
Un diseño absolutamente maravilloso,a la altura de los mejores modelos de Ferrari de los años 50, años 60 ó 70 del siglo pasado. En mi opinión muy superior a los actuales coches deportivos italianos de las marcas de la competencia. Bravo Ferrari!!!!
gorgeous gorgeous gorgeous
The camera work could have focused on each discussed aspect to give us a more immersive experience.
@@AmukelaniHNkuna Yes, absolutely. This is what I had asked him to do (focus in on elements being referred to) but I think my brief got lost in translation to the Italian videographer
imagine parking this somewhere in london :D:D
My favourite Ferrari design is the SP3 and Ferrari F8 tribute while the 12 cilindri and 296 designs are quite interesting
@@swizzronny8603 certainly agree about the 296. It's sublime. Great driver's car too
Miura vibes at the door and c pillar. And Definately daytona vibes at the front. It’s a Daytona Miura
@@MW-uy3np Interesting observations
The camera person is not doing a good job
@@mickfoluv Unfortunately, I have to agree. I had asked him to zoom in on whatever design element was being talked about. I think my brief was lost in translation
The idea of trying to keep it simple is great but it doesn't work entirely. The rear looks odd. And I still don't understand why it needs 9500 rpm to make only 30hp more than its predecessor did at 8600 rpm.
@@alastairfaulds8184 Can you imagine how the V12 would sound at 9,500rpm? Just think back to the days of naturally aspirated F1 cars and how glorious they sounded at 17,000rpm
On a separate note, here's a piece I wrote on Ferrari's new e-building and future powertrain strategy... www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/new-ferrari-e-building-will-propel-it-into-a-new-era-146498/
Rear can be any car brand. Looks nothing like ferrari
The design language is too similar to say that you didn't research Daytona.
He is correct that it isn't inspired by the Daytona. It is officially inspired by the Ferrari 365 GTB/4. The name Daytona was never applied to the vehicle by Ferrari. The Daytona name was created by the media. Till this day, Ferrari never called the 365 GTB/4 a Daytona. Even the official Ferrari website doesn't use the term Daytona.
my colour is all black in and out yellow calippers and yellow seatbelts
Looks good, but good isnt enough at this level.
Seeing as the 12Cilindri has some clear visual links with the Daytona, here's a video I made on the yesteryear classic... ua-cam.com/video/ryxOwJxtCP4/v-deo.htmlsi=B3yHCKRagPWX_Lhh
I picture a bunch of Italians scrambling through papers on a desk looking for the phone number to Pininfarina.
@@spartanp2064 🤣 Good one
I think it's worrying that the head designer dresses so badly. A designer has to have a certain style, whatever it may be, but he has to know how to dress.
Reason why not successor to the ferrari 812? 12Cilindri = New Ferrari 365 GTB 2024 with 812 = New Lamborghini Countach 2022 with Aventador
Attention, was and always will be V12 Engine and also V8 and V6.
Do you need to spam this fake theory everywhere?
@@ahimeirhadad4836 It's a completely new car, it's just taking inspiration for its front design from the 365 gtb/4. It's like saying the revuelto is a new countach because it has a wedge shaped design. Stop with your fakery!
Ugliest modern Ferrari by far
The comments were interesting and plentiful, but why were the elements talked about never clearly shown ? The coupé was always partially filmed only, the opening mechanism process of the clamshell bonnet not shown either, nor were the freed wheel arches revealing the suspensions. Sorry, but this was of very little interest because there was practically nothing to look at. Things got better with the Spyder version of the car, but on the whole, a rather disappointing video. 🧐
@@carfan3762 Thanks for your feedback. All valid points. To answer your question: I was working with the videographer provided on the day by the manufacturer. I did ask him to focus more on the cars than the two talking heads and to zoom in whenever a particular aspect of the car was being spoken about. However, the message obviously didn't get through, and this may have been partly due to the language barrier. Can understand your frustration (I was too when I first saw the footage) but hope you got some value out of the vid anyway
@@GautamSharma99991 Thank you for the explanation. Sorry to learn that you weren’t listened to. Yes, the content was fine and interesting. Just the filming which was rather lousy. Nothing for Ferrari to be proud of. 😎
ugly asf...they ruined the v12 lineup.
Note to the producers of this video. When introducing a car, you are not the focus of the video. Show the car and stay out of the shots.
@@alpi57 Yes, fair comment. This is the exact brief I gave the videographer, but I think my instructions were lost in translation (he was Italian, and I don't speak Italian)
It looks like Mazda. 😂😂😂
@@hammmodjabeer7278You think so? 🤔
Not at all. Mazda crudely copied the Opel GT of the late 60s in its MX-5 ND series. Ferrari is another level of design, not as vulgar as Mazda is.
So many angry comments from people who do not know and understand Ferrari as a car manufacturer.
If you don’t like it then don’t buy if you are able to afford one 😂.
Beautiful car but did he just say with a straight face that it wasn’t inspired by the 365 Daytona? Everything that came out of his mouth afterwards was an insult to everyone’s intelligence
He is correct that it isn't inspired by the Daytona. It is officially inspired by the Ferrari 365 GTB/4. The name Daytona was never applied to the vehicle by Ferrari. The Daytona name was created by the media. Till this day, Ferrari never called the 365 GTB/4 a Daytona. Even the official Ferrari website doesn't use the term Daytona.
@@zarbon700 That’s CLEARLY not what he was referring to.
The Unibrow looks old and simpel!
The Black blob at the back is not nice!
The exterior design is a 4,5/10, not a convincing design, even a bit weak!
Tech and performance is spot on, 9/10
This 12 Cilindri will only look ok in black!
Horrible
I think it looks great. Doesn't matter anyways as I will never be able to afford one.
This modern Daytona. He must stop lying about the inspirations of the car
@@oscarsambo9981 I don't think he's lying. He acknowledged that the front fascia has links to the Daytona, but he's clarifying that the 12Cilindri wasn't conceived to be a modern-day Daytona
Why would they be lying? it make nonsense. If it was a tribute to the Daytona, they would have said it.
Do you really think that Ferrari is a car manufacturer that would hide behind lies because of being ashamed to give tribute to one of their cars which contributed to their sport legacy?
He is correct that it isn't inspired by the Daytona. It is officially inspired by the Ferrari 365 GTB/4. The name Daytona was never applied to the vehicle by Ferrari. The Daytona name was created by the media. Till this day, Ferrari never called the 365 GTB/4 a Daytona. Even the official Ferrari website doesn't use the term Daytona.
It should be called Centro No Stile or Centro ZERO Stile!!!! This car’s design is an abomination!!! Bring PINIFARINA BACK ASAP!
Shitindri
The car looks crap i am an expert in car design i can tell you 100% you car will be a FAILURE i have never been wrong