Today we take a very detailed look at the new Ferrari Dodici Cilindri (12 Cylinder), its design cues and what this flagship GT means for the Ferrari luxury brand! Will this be the very last naturally aspirated Ferrari V12 GT? Let me know in the comments below...
I just had my 599 GTB fitted with Fiammenghi 6-1 equal length headers like those from the 599 GTO - it screams! Thank you for your 12C coverage! When going through the Ferrari configurator, it shows that while you can spec the rear tailgate (center section) in carbon fiber, the connected active aero sections cannot be spec’d in carbon fiber. Your observations about Ferrari exclusivity and interest rates are interesting - I enjoy that you have an independence to your coverage - too many auto channels seem to follow the same script.
Thank you, that is pretty much perfect feedback for us, very much appreciated. We do our best to keep it honest and real for our viewers...hence why I provide the workshop videos even though they never do well for views I know the few that need them Really Need them and helps to save a lot of money and pass on skills.
In my opinion, a front V12 Ferrari is the true essence of Ferrari. During Enzo's time, he consistently ranked his front-engine V12 cars the highest. In my view, front V12 engine layouts are more reliable. Since the gas tank and the engine are separated, unlike the rear-engine configurations which are prone to fires. From the 355, which is prone to fires due to gas line leaks, to the aging 458, where the adhesive in the wheel-arch assemblies can ignite. Additionally, the weight of the front engine helps the car stay grounded, unlike the Miura, which tends to lift off at 175 mph. Here is the discussion I recently had among the V12 groups: The F12 calls for 10w-60 oil, which is very thick. Normally, such thick oil is used in blown engines and much clearance. Also, the thick oil might risk the rod bearings going bad. On the other hand, the newer 812 calls for a more normal 5w-40 oil. Some Ferrari shops use 5w-40/0w-40 on the F12. What's your opinion on this, Rich?
Agree regarding Ferrari V12 GT cars...the whole production line was inaugurated off the 125S front engined V12 model. All cars especially performance car have issues initially...the 458 adhesive issues was resolved very quickly.
Individual Perceptions count....the newest car will always be technically the best but does it capture the soul of an owner? For example...the 488 is by far a more technically accomplished car when compared to the 458 but most prefer the 458 and would pay a premium to own one.
I'm a fan of classic Ferraris, but in my opinion, both the exterior and interior of this car are a step back from the 812. Nothing about this car is stirring my emotions like a Ferrari should.
Yep, true ! This Ferrari 12C, like the 296 before shows (in a bad way) that Ferrari currently lets their proprietary technical department do the design - instead of Pininfarina or other well reputed designer crews. And one can see that they’re kind of lost in doing so - e.g. front panel and the strange upper back in black! The dashboard in the 12c looks alright for a Ferrari to me.
The past couple of times I was in for services and general work on my car the very friendly technician told me off record that they are pricing new cars much higher to make it harder to obtain indeed, and something they are also doing is massively bumping up the cost of parts and servicing for the older cars, again to make it more difficult to afford unless you are wealthy. It's a bit sad to be honest as other brands like porsche seem to be doing the opposite. They are even going a step further and restricting third party part suppliers and cutting off their usual supply from the factory with maranello now requiring an annual fee to be an approved ferrari parts supplier..... scuderia parts and the like are already in a bit of trouble getting this sorted out. Ferrari feels that their brand exclusivity was damaged by cheap finance, with many upper managers being told to tigthen the rules and finance from main dealers as well. The short of it is that if you are a poor, you shouldnt be running a ferrari and they are making it harder to do so.
This aligns directly with my thoughts…Dealers already apply a hefty Ferrari tax for parts purchased through them and of course high hourly rates for fitting them. It’s a real shame but not at all surprising given their progressive pricing for new models.
@@RichReviews_ I have also heard they are starting to flat out refuse to service or work on cars bought outside of their Ferrari main dealer network which is just madness. For those who bought pre owned cars outside of the network may no long be able to get service stamps which will make the cars value drop significantly.
I love to listen to someone who understands and loves these cars. It takes dedication and commitment for investing in this passion for many years. What a privilege to listen to you. Keep it up Rich!
Oooh, since when do we hear that „this WILL be the last n/a 12 cylinder“ - or engine in general - speech ?? Is it six or is it seven years already??! I tell you something: even this brand new model right now WON‘T be the last „real motor“ we see in a brand new future model… This is all bs-talk and wishful thinking of some political class - the reality is that things that are already called „dead“ will live much much longer than expected!!
....what an ugly fuggly modern interpretation of the classic Ferraro Daytona. Makes the Ferrari Roma look like a work of art a masterpiece, timeless. But yeah ofc, the motor, the 12 cylinder, will sell this car...alone
Today we take a very detailed look at the new Ferrari Dodici Cilindri (12 Cylinder), its design cues and what this flagship GT means for the Ferrari luxury brand! Will this be the very last naturally aspirated Ferrari V12 GT? Let me know in the comments below...
I just had my 599 GTB fitted with Fiammenghi 6-1 equal length headers like those from the 599 GTO - it screams! Thank you for your 12C coverage! When going through the Ferrari configurator, it shows that while you can spec the rear tailgate (center section) in carbon fiber, the connected active aero sections cannot be spec’d in carbon fiber. Your observations about Ferrari exclusivity and interest rates are interesting - I enjoy that you have an independence to your coverage - too many auto channels seem to follow the same script.
Thank you, that is pretty much perfect feedback for us, very much appreciated.
We do our best to keep it honest and real for our viewers...hence why I provide the workshop videos even though they never do well for views I know the few that need them Really Need them and helps to save a lot of money and pass on skills.
This car is breathtaking!
Great video🎉
In my opinion, a front V12 Ferrari is the true essence of Ferrari. During Enzo's time, he consistently ranked his front-engine V12 cars the highest.
In my view, front V12 engine layouts are more reliable. Since the gas tank and the engine are separated, unlike the rear-engine configurations which are prone to fires.
From the 355, which is prone to fires due to gas line leaks, to the aging 458, where the adhesive in the wheel-arch assemblies can ignite.
Additionally, the weight of the front engine helps the car stay grounded, unlike the Miura, which tends to lift off at 175 mph.
Here is the discussion I recently had among the V12 groups: The F12 calls for 10w-60 oil, which is very thick. Normally, such thick oil is used in blown engines and much clearance. Also, the thick oil might risk the rod bearings going bad. On the other hand, the newer 812 calls for a more normal 5w-40 oil. Some Ferrari shops use 5w-40/0w-40 on the F12. What's your opinion on this, Rich?
Agree regarding Ferrari V12 GT cars...the whole production line was inaugurated off the 125S front engined V12 model.
All cars especially performance car have issues initially...the 458 adhesive issues was resolved very quickly.
Shocking news: New Ferrari better than the older one!!
Individual Perceptions count....the newest car will always be technically the best but does it capture the soul of an owner?
For example...the 488 is by far a more technically accomplished car when compared to the 458 but most prefer the 458 and would pay a premium to own one.
I will keep my 2022 Verdi Masoni 812 GTS with 11,000+ miles of daily driving (not in the snow though)
I'm a fan of classic Ferraris, but in my opinion, both the exterior and interior of this car are a step back from the 812. Nothing about this car is stirring my emotions like a Ferrari should.
I hear similar from others…I see it as a step forward other than the central touchscreen but sign of the times.
Yep, true ! This Ferrari 12C, like the 296 before shows (in a bad way) that Ferrari currently lets their proprietary technical department do the design - instead of Pininfarina or other well reputed designer crews. And one can see that they’re kind of lost in doing so - e.g. front panel and the strange upper back in black! The dashboard in the 12c looks alright for a Ferrari to me.
The past couple of times I was in for services and general work on my car the very friendly technician told me off record that they are pricing new cars much higher to make it harder to obtain indeed, and something they are also doing is massively bumping up the cost of parts and servicing for the older cars, again to make it more difficult to afford unless you are wealthy. It's a bit sad to be honest as other brands like porsche seem to be doing the opposite. They are even going a step further and restricting third party part suppliers and cutting off their usual supply from the factory with maranello now requiring an annual fee to be an approved ferrari parts supplier..... scuderia parts and the like are already in a bit of trouble getting this sorted out. Ferrari feels that their brand exclusivity was damaged by cheap finance, with many upper managers being told to tigthen the rules and finance from main dealers as well. The short of it is that if you are a poor, you shouldnt be running a ferrari and they are making it harder to do so.
This aligns directly with my thoughts…Dealers already apply a hefty Ferrari tax for parts purchased through them and of course high hourly rates for fitting them.
It’s a real shame but not at all surprising given their progressive pricing for new models.
@@RichReviews_ I have also heard they are starting to flat out refuse to service or work on cars bought outside of their Ferrari main dealer network which is just madness. For those who bought pre owned cars outside of the network may no long be able to get service stamps which will make the cars value drop significantly.
@n0cturnalgamer 🫤 that sounds crazy!
It’s not a love at first sight for me. Let’s wait until I see it for real.
It’s rare for me to like a new Ferrari GT launch but I love the heritage range that this harks back to.
I love to listen to someone who understands and loves these cars. It takes dedication and commitment for investing in this passion for many years. What a privilege to listen to you. Keep it up Rich!
Thank you Cesar.
There are at least 70 million people who are dollar millionares around the globe.
So selling these things will not be a problem..
Agree but it depends how many of those spend on Ferrari GTs
I never watch videos with "The last V12" headlines.
Good for you,
Dodici is spelt like this
Thank you...I incorrectly used the phonetic spelling...I have now corrected this.
Oooh, since when do we hear that „this WILL be the last n/a 12 cylinder“ - or engine in general - speech ?? Is it six or is it seven years already??! I tell you something: even this brand new model right now WON‘T be the last „real motor“ we see in a brand new future model… This is all bs-talk and wishful thinking of some political class - the reality is that things that are already called „dead“ will live much much longer than expected!!
....what an ugly fuggly modern interpretation of the classic Ferraro Daytona. Makes the Ferrari Roma look like a work of art a masterpiece, timeless.
But yeah ofc, the motor, the 12 cylinder, will sell this car...alone
Doesn’t like f12, opinion invalidated and unsubbed
I was referring to initial perceptions when released and was related to Styling only.
Would recommend you watch my F12 review video.