OK, good feedback. Thanks. The actual comparison vids with fps graphs take a lot of time to generate, so time limits how many I can make and show. Thinking about it, I do generate a bunch of stats when I'm assessing FPS so maybe I'll show some of those next time. Seriously, thanks for the feedback. It is very helpful. Cheers!
Pls test more games … this is the most useful look on PS5 Pro benefit … I don’t have VRR TV and always choose 60fps mode and many games have frame drops or DRS drops on base PS5. Hope PS5 Pro can get 60fps lock on most games. Greatly appreciated the fps comparison on non Enhanced games which digital foundry is not doing. Awesome work 👍
Thanks. In prep for the 2 videos I looked at a bunch of games but only showed the ones that had obvious differences (and that I have access to). I might go back and see which PS4 games get a nice bump in fps on the Pro next. Let me know if any PS4 games you know struggle on the standard PS5. Cheers!
4:53 what happened to the video clips here? It looks like the bit rate tanked compared to the clips right before and after (even when locked into the 4k quality setting in the YT player). Otherwise, thanks for the comparisons.
Well spotted. That clip was 540p test footage i make just for me to seek out fps differences. Once I find a difference i then go back and make a higher resolution version. Low res clips are a LOT quicker to make and most don’t show a difference anyway. I just used it as I was only talking about time of day changes - and couldn’t be arsed remaking it :) Cheers!
I think Digital Foundry had some issues with visual quality of DD2 with PSSR but I wasn’t looking for that and, to be honest, didn’t notice any issue. I like how it runs!
Thanks for the suggestions but I don’t think I have access to either of them. Thinking of looking at PS4 games that are improved on the Pro. Keen to hear any PS4 games recommendations 👍
I agree, the PS5 HDMI cable is spec'd for the console's output. However, I've seen that for long cable lengths quality can matter (i.e. how much above the specification the cable is rated for).
an hdmi cable is an hdmi cable.. the only improvements and differences are the types.. like hdmi 2 vs 2.1 .. as long as it works, itll work the same as a more expensive one lol.. it just sends 01010101 digital data,,, there is no possible way of improving how it is sent.. it either works or it doesnt, an expensive one isnt going to perform better
Frame rates aren’t gonna change too much because it’s still CPU limited with the same crappy CPU probably the only game you’re gonna see an FPS improvements are ones that were GPU limited previously because the GPS is more powerful.
I agree, the GPU-limited games will see the most improvement in fps with the Pro (or regions within games that are GPU-bound). Gotta say though it is a pleasant surprise when I see a game with an obvious fps boost (more than I would have thought), even without a Pro patch. Cheers!
@@johnpsy4129 Good point, though not all areas in DD2 are CPU-limited apparently. The Pro can run the CPU 10% faster than the standard PS5 but i believe a patch is needed to enable this. It might have been included as part of the latest DD2 patch that i tested. Cheers!
I don’t see consoles surviving. Next generation is going to start at $700, similar to the pro. For 1k you can get a PC that can out perform a console and you can email, photo edit, write papers, and play games. And you don’t have to spend $100+ to play online or spend $80 a game.
Yes, I think the next console, from MS or Sony, will be close to the Pro's price point. The big advantage of consoles is standardisation. In theory this means the game should 'just play' and run the same every time. Not sure this is *actually* what happens - but I like the idea. Cheers!
i know many people who have very expensive pc's and bought a ps5 pro recently or even only play on ps5 despite owning a rtx4090... major ben gaming on youtube is one of these people.. but they are not rare,... console exists for convenience. no need to install drivers etc. just works out of the box. if a console is worthy of the price point, people will buy it.. its just tech at the end of the day... you seem like a pc fanboy, but your mindset does not apply to everyone. so pointless trying to force what you prefer onto others, that never works
You talk about stuff for a long time and then only show the fps comparisons for a short time.
Yup
OK, good feedback. Thanks.
The actual comparison vids with fps graphs take a lot of time to generate, so time limits how many I can make and show.
Thinking about it, I do generate a bunch of stats when I'm assessing FPS so maybe I'll show some of those next time.
Seriously, thanks for the feedback. It is very helpful.
Cheers!
Pls test more games … this is the most useful look on PS5 Pro benefit … I don’t have VRR TV and always choose 60fps mode and many games have frame drops or DRS drops on base PS5. Hope PS5 Pro can get 60fps lock on most games. Greatly appreciated the fps comparison on non Enhanced games which digital foundry is not doing. Awesome work 👍
Yeah games run better except sh 2 from what ive played
Thanks. In prep for the 2 videos I looked at a bunch of games but only showed the ones that had obvious differences (and that I have access to). I might go back and see which PS4 games get a nice bump in fps on the Pro next.
Let me know if any PS4 games you know struggle on the standard PS5.
Cheers!
Great video 🎉
Thank you 😁l
4:53 what happened to the video clips here? It looks like the bit rate tanked compared to the clips right before and after (even when locked into the 4k quality setting in the YT player).
Otherwise, thanks for the comparisons.
Well spotted. That clip was 540p test footage i make just for me to seek out fps differences. Once I find a difference i then go back and make a higher resolution version. Low res clips are a LOT quicker to make and most don’t show a difference anyway. I just used it as I was only talking about time of day changes - and couldn’t be arsed remaking it :)
Cheers!
DD2 is the game I’m interested in with the pro.. could not play ay on the OG5 was awful
I think Digital Foundry had some issues with visual quality of DD2 with PSSR but I wasn’t looking for that and, to be honest, didn’t notice any issue. I like how it runs!
Do Genshin impact and Zenless zone zero for fps and load times
Thanks for the suggestions but I don’t think I have access to either of them. Thinking of looking at PS4 games that are improved on the Pro. Keen to hear any PS4 games recommendations 👍
Buy a quality hdmi cable and you will never look back. Audiquest cinnamon works miracles !
Hdmi 2.1 is enough. They all are the same. The one what came with the ps5 is a high quality cable.
I agree, the PS5 HDMI cable is spec'd for the console's output. However, I've seen that for long cable lengths quality can matter (i.e. how much above the specification the cable is rated for).
an hdmi cable is an hdmi cable.. the only improvements and differences are the types.. like hdmi 2 vs 2.1 .. as long as it works, itll work the same as a more expensive one lol.. it just sends 01010101 digital data,,, there is no possible way of improving how it is sent.. it either works or it doesnt, an expensive one isnt going to perform better
Frame rates aren’t gonna change too much because it’s still CPU limited with the same crappy CPU probably the only game you’re gonna see an FPS improvements are ones that were GPU limited previously because the GPS is more powerful.
I agree, the GPU-limited games will see the most improvement in fps with the Pro (or regions within games that are GPU-bound). Gotta say though it is a pleasant surprise when I see a game with an obvious fps boost (more than I would have thought), even without a Pro patch. Cheers!
Even in "cpu limited games" like dragons dogma there is a big improvement
@@johnpsy4129 Good point, though not all areas in DD2 are CPU-limited apparently. The Pro can run the CPU 10% faster than the standard PS5 but i believe a patch is needed to enable this. It might have been included as part of the latest DD2 patch that i tested. Cheers!
I don’t see consoles surviving.
Next generation is going to start at $700, similar to the pro.
For 1k you can get a PC that can out perform a console and you can email, photo edit, write papers, and play games. And you don’t have to spend $100+ to play online or spend $80 a game.
Yes, I think the next console, from MS or Sony, will be close to the Pro's price point.
The big advantage of consoles is standardisation. In theory this means the game should 'just play' and run the same every time. Not sure this is *actually* what happens - but I like the idea.
Cheers!
i know many people who have very expensive pc's and bought a ps5 pro recently or even only play on ps5 despite owning a rtx4090... major ben gaming on youtube is one of these people.. but they are not rare,... console exists for convenience. no need to install drivers etc. just works out of the box. if a console is worthy of the price point, people will buy it.. its just tech at the end of the day... you seem like a pc fanboy, but your mindset does not apply to everyone. so pointless trying to force what you prefer onto others, that never works