Brilliant comparison Michael. I got fit last week from TSi3 with Tensei X-flex to TSR3 with 1K black S-Flex. Swing speed 109 and saw an incredible improvement in dispersion and a few extra yards. Your a mind reader as I had gone to your videos after my fitting to see if you had done a TSR shaft comparison. Looking forward to getting the new driver soon and seeing if it translates on the course. Loving the reviews keep them coming.
I have a the 65g Tensie 1k Black X Stiff, in my Sim2 Max. And Man I love it. Went to this set-up from an 18year old Callaway driver with a R flex. It's night and day. My club head speed is around 110-115mph and it made all the difference. By far the most forgiving, yet straight drivers/set-ups I've ever swung.
I think this video did a good job I was showing what I experience as a fitter on a daily basis. Shaft companies have massively over marketed the effect of the shaft on the results of the ball, but as this testing shows the difference is in the consistency of strike. What I tell people on a regular basis is that the shaft creates a consistent and comfortable feel that will make your ball striking more consistent which will result in better distance, however, the driver head ultimately will determine your potential distance with the launch and spin. As far as ball flight goes, the shaft makes up 3 to 5% of what happens to the ball. The driver head itself, between the center of mass and the loft, will make up 95 to 97% of what happens to the ball.
@@kriskouvo160 nah I get paid a pretty penny to constantly learn and evolve my fitting capabilities on a daily basis and apply what I’ve learned to thousands of fittings…..
And I feel the CONSISTENCY is what is almost never talked about Getting stronger and more flexible, I needed a stiffer/heavier shaft. What I was shocked by was how tight the dispersion is on my new clubs. Hard to put into words how much easier, more confident, and consistent those new shafts have immediately made my game. I’m also not COMPENSATING with a weird swing to avoid my slice/fade miss anymore, which liberates me to actually swing at the golf ball rather than just trying to manage the club path to avoid disaster
@@BigDawgCAM that’s the beauty of fitting. A lot of my clients come and think I’m going to fix their swing. I always hear “my swing sucks so there’s probably not much you can do. A new drivers not gonna help me” and I remind them that I am simply modifying the equipment you play to get you the best performance possible out of that bad swing. There’s not many genuinely “bad” swings that I see. A lot of it is just bad golf. Picking the wrong club, aiming at the middle of the fairway, trying to make birdies, none of those have to do with the swing but will save you strokes
Running a stealth and after multiple different shafts I ended up with a tensei blue 55 stiff. Ball speed in the 160's and most control I've had. I can take it easy and can really attack when I want to with it. Where as with a heavier low spin low launch options I had to attack all the time.
What is your driver swing speed and what are you using now? Ive had 21 drivers in 3 years and mixed and matched shafts. It really is trial and error. Have you used a launch monitor to see swing path? I used to hit down causing too much back and side spin. No shaft can fix that. I did find that shaft weight and whether counterbalanced suited me but I still have 4 different drivers and each married to a different shaft. Only thing common is playing length. It's a journey, but ive seen plenty of old boys with 20yo drivers hitting the fairways everytime..
I did a fitting last week. Ended up with TSR1 with Tensei 1K black 65g stiff. Worked better than Paradym with the Hazdus black. I'm not a fast swinger, 100-102.
The averages are so close, this could almost be used as evidence that the shaft doesn't matter. Jack Nicklaus said in his book that most golfers can just go buy any set off the rack, and after a few rounds, be good to go. It would be interesting to see the difference between your "perfect" shaft and a shaft which contributes to wildly erratic distances and ball flights.
Hi thanks for this vidéo very helpful Can u pls advise me I want to buy a titleist driver tsr2 10° Trackman data Club speed 98 - 100 mph Ball speed 142-145 Spin rate 2356 rpm Smach factor 1.45 250- 255 total distance Mid launch Attack Angle -1 53 yrs old 1.4 hcp What shaft do you advise me 1 = graphite design tour ad di 5 x 2= graphite design tour ad iz 5 x 3 = projet x hzrdus black 4 gen 6.0 Thanks
At any point in this testing, did you feel that a stock shaft, being a 4th gen offering, might be our performing the premium offerings from Fujikura Velocore or Tour AD? Or even similarly, the premium project x offerings?
I have a Tensei Black stock shaft, stiff flex, on my TM M-5 driver. I hit the ball like 290 to 300 yds when I go after it. And when I go after it, I feel the shaft bend a lot -- a weird feeling I don't like. Maybe I should go to extra stiff?
I thought i was the only one that thinks this. I had to switch to a regular shaft tenesi 55 blue at 49 years old. The launch ball speed is amazing on my tsr2.
Instead of saying "faster swing speed", you should say "a quicker transition in your backswing". Also, you did say "less twisting of the head". These are better descriptors than, "better player", "faster swing speed" or "suited to my swing speed".
@@MichaelNewtonGolf love internet clowns. All this test shows is just how good your swing is, given the similar ball speeds and spin numbers within 10%. Great work as always mate
Not correct. It proves that someone with the skills and repeatable swing can hit and deliver similar results with any shaft. Ego has nothing to do with weight, when you get to low singles or plus cap, it’s the weight and flex that tighten dispersion, but everyone at that level of cap can get ball speed and spin to be within 5% with any shaft,
Absolutely is correct, your basing your comment on what a teaching professional can do with the S flex shaft. My comment is based on the average golfer which im guessing was the target audience for the video in the first place. average golfers will always choose the heaver and stiffer shaft because trackman says so whereas i bet the 50g shaft would be ideal for most if not all average golfers.
@@dunc_leaper Trackman says so? Sorry, I’m not going to get into a debate, but you’re wrong there’s no other way to put it. Read my statement again, with particular attention to my point around skills.
@@dunc_leaper which even more discredits your thought my man. If your counterpoint is based on skills and ability and making the 50g performs the same, then my point is made. Enjoy the TSR! It’s an awesome club
I mean he's only got 65 thousand subscribers , his vocabulary must really be holding him back? Tough crowd. More bothered about the golf content tbh mate
It's looks to me that your typically hitting most of the balls low on the club. I've heard that it's better to hit the ball higher rather than lower on the face, because the center of gravity on the new drivers needs to be hit below the center of gravity of the golf ball. Which means that a high strike would be better than a lower strike?
Brilliant comparison Michael. I got fit last week from TSi3 with Tensei X-flex to TSR3 with 1K black S-Flex. Swing speed 109 and saw an incredible improvement in dispersion and a few extra yards. Your a mind reader as I had gone to your videos after my fitting to see if you had done a TSR shaft comparison. Looking forward to getting the new driver soon and seeing if it translates on the course. Loving the reviews keep them coming.
109mph swing, and you went from X to S and saw improvement? How's your tempo?
Great comparisons. Felt like I learned exactly what each shaft does and which one works for my swing. Data was displayed perfectly. Earned a sub 👍🏼
Enjoyed the video Michael you are smooth and consistent so this should remind golfers to get fitted. Not all can swing that buttery..
I have a the 65g Tensie 1k Black X Stiff, in my Sim2 Max. And Man I love it. Went to this set-up from an 18year old Callaway driver with a R flex. It's night and day. My club head speed is around 110-115mph and it made all the difference. By far the most forgiving, yet straight drivers/set-ups I've ever swung.
I think this video did a good job I was showing what I experience as a fitter on a daily basis. Shaft companies have massively over marketed the effect of the shaft on the results of the ball, but as this testing shows the difference is in the consistency of strike. What I tell people on a regular basis is that the shaft creates a consistent and comfortable feel that will make your ball striking more consistent which will result in better distance, however, the driver head ultimately will determine your potential distance with the launch and spin. As far as ball flight goes, the shaft makes up 3 to 5% of what happens to the ball. The driver head itself, between the center of mass and the loft, will make up 95 to 97% of what happens to the ball.
100% agree 👍
Well done explaining what he said,
You obviously steal your lessons off this site 👏
@@kriskouvo160 nah I get paid a pretty penny to constantly learn and evolve my fitting capabilities on a daily basis and apply what I’ve learned to thousands of fittings…..
And I feel the CONSISTENCY is what is almost never talked about
Getting stronger and more flexible, I needed a stiffer/heavier shaft. What I was shocked by was how tight the dispersion is on my new clubs. Hard to put into words how much easier, more confident, and consistent those new shafts have immediately made my game.
I’m also not COMPENSATING with a weird swing to avoid my slice/fade miss anymore, which liberates me to actually swing at the golf ball rather than just trying to manage the club path to avoid disaster
@@BigDawgCAM that’s the beauty of fitting. A lot of my clients come and think I’m going to fix their swing. I always hear “my swing sucks so there’s probably not much you can do. A new drivers not gonna help me” and I remind them that I am simply modifying the equipment you play to get you the best performance possible out of that bad swing. There’s not many genuinely “bad” swings that I see. A lot of it is just bad golf. Picking the wrong club, aiming at the middle of the fairway, trying to make birdies, none of those have to do with the swing but will save you strokes
Great comparison, would love to see how they compare to the upgrade shafts too…..🤔😁
No difference .. that test bèen done many times
I just got fitted for a tsr4. Tensei 1k black was almost half the dispersion as the Ventus black. So upgrade isn’t always the best
Titleist 910 D2 , Shaft - stiff 60gms, 10.5 degree . This was my last Driver shaft . Wich one new I should go for ?
Running a stealth and after multiple different shafts I ended up with a tensei blue 55 stiff. Ball speed in the 160's and most control I've had. I can take it easy and can really attack when I want to with it. Where as with a heavier low spin low launch options I had to attack all the time.
great video as always. What swing speed do you think for 1K black? I am thinking Blue may be more for me but hearing 1K is a great shaft.
What is your driver swing speed and what are you using now?
Ive had 21 drivers in 3 years and mixed and matched shafts. It really is trial and error.
Have you used a launch monitor to see swing path?
I used to hit down causing too much back and side spin. No shaft can fix that. I did find that shaft weight and whether counterbalanced suited me but I still have 4 different drivers and each married to a different shaft. Only thing common is playing length.
It's a journey, but ive seen plenty of old boys with 20yo drivers hitting the fairways everytime..
I did a fitting last week. Ended up with TSR1 with Tensei 1K black 65g stiff. Worked better than Paradym with the Hazdus black. I'm not a fast swinger, 100-102.
Surprised they were all so close in results. That CB looks interesting for a slower swing speed player. Thanks for the comparison.
Amazing to see you stripe a 50gram stiff like that. Makes you rethink things a bit.
Great review. I enjoyed the tensei shaft also. I liked the 65g Great to watch your effortless swing.
Perfect.just the video i was lookin for
Great content Michael. Subscribed
The averages are so close, this could almost be used as evidence that the shaft doesn't matter.
Jack Nicklaus said in his book that most golfers can just go buy any set off the rack, and after a few rounds, be good to go.
It would be interesting to see the difference between your "perfect" shaft and a shaft which contributes to wildly erratic distances and ball flights.
Hi thanks for this vidéo very helpful
Can u pls advise me
I want to buy a titleist driver tsr2 10°
Trackman data
Club speed 98 - 100 mph
Ball speed 142-145
Spin rate 2356 rpm
Smach factor 1.45
250- 255 total distance
Mid launch
Attack Angle -1
53 yrs old 1.4 hcp
What shaft do you advise me
1 = graphite design tour ad di 5 x
2= graphite design tour ad iz 5 x
3 = projet x hzrdus black 4 gen 6.0
Thanks
Question - what swing speed range would you guess fits this Hzrdous Red 50g stiff option?
Waiting for my TSR2 to arrive with the same HZRDUS Red CB.Swing speed 103-105
I just put that shaft on my tsi 2 and 3 and really like it.
Which weight? The 50 or the 60? I’m at the same swing speed
Hey mate this might be a bit of a stretch but could you do a 9 wood review/round up video for the short hitters?
At any point in this testing, did you feel that a stock shaft, being a 4th gen offering, might be our performing the premium offerings from Fujikura Velocore or Tour AD? Or even similarly, the premium project x offerings?
I have a Tensei Black stock shaft, stiff flex, on my TM M-5 driver. I hit the ball like 290 to 300 yds when I go after it. And when I go after it, I feel the shaft bend a lot -- a weird feeling I don't like. Maybe I should go to extra stiff?
Waiting for my TSR4 to get here, fitted for the Tensei 1k Black and I cannot wait to get my hands on it and out on the course.
Why not test the 4.0 hazardous red which is also available....85k/h swing speeds? Thanks
does has difference between tensei av blue and x link?
Would like this test with someone who swings mid 90s
The hzrdus you were swinging was actually X flex. Why were all the others stiff and that one X?
All the shafts were stiff 👍
@@MichaelNewtonGolf That's what she said
Perhaps try a higher tee Michael. Might help you to raise that strike up.
Feel = confidence
Tensei blue launched and flew higher than the HZRDUS red? Interesting!!
Tensei blue is a beast.
Blue ballooned for me, use the orange which is CB.
Just a heads up, on your competition video someone is trying to scam.
Wait until you get older. That 50 gram will feel stiffer, the 65 gram like a cricket bat..lol.
I thought i was the only one that thinks this. I had to switch to a regular shaft tenesi 55 blue at 49 years old. The launch ball speed is amazing on my tsr2.
Anything on the market stiff feels like a cricket bat now. Yes. Lollll.
Instead of saying "faster swing speed", you should say "a quicker transition in your backswing". Also, you did say "less twisting of the head". These are better descriptors than, "better player", "faster swing speed" or "suited to my swing speed".
Hate counter balanced shafts.
Jackson Kenneth Garcia Edward Williams Scott
Little difference to see out on the course
Hit them all off center,why not tee ball up little more
So you going to use the CB and learn to swing a little better?
Yes pro 👍
@@MichaelNewtonGolf love internet clowns. All this test shows is just how good your swing is, given the similar ball speeds and spin numbers within 10%.
Great work as always mate
it does just prove that a 50g shaft can perform as well as anything else, ego would be the only real reason you wouldnt game it
Not correct. It proves that someone with the skills and repeatable swing can hit and deliver similar results with any shaft. Ego has nothing to do with weight, when you get to low singles or plus cap, it’s the weight and flex that tighten dispersion, but everyone at that level of cap can get ball speed and spin to be within 5% with any shaft,
Absolutely is correct, your basing your comment on what a teaching professional can do with the S flex shaft. My comment is based on the average golfer which im guessing was the target audience for the video in the first place. average golfers will always choose the heaver and stiffer shaft because trackman says so whereas i bet the 50g shaft would be ideal for most if not all average golfers.
@@dunc_leaper Trackman says so? Sorry, I’m not going to get into a debate, but you’re wrong there’s no other way to put it. Read my statement again, with particular attention to my point around skills.
@@Brooks_Cupcake “skills and repeatable swing” NOT the average golfer
@@dunc_leaper which even more discredits your thought my man. If your counterpoint is based on skills and ability and making the 50g performs the same, then my point is made.
Enjoy the TSR! It’s an awesome club
first😄
You say "basically", "sort of" and "maybe" way too much.
Ok
@@MichaelNewtonGolf It just detracts from the good things you say is all. 😊
Sorry, I should have worded my first comment more tactfully.
I mean he's only got 65 thousand subscribers , his vocabulary must really be holding him back? Tough crowd. More bothered about the golf content tbh mate
It's looks to me that your typically hitting most of the balls low on the club. I've heard that it's better to hit the ball higher rather than lower on the face, because the center of gravity on the new drivers needs to be hit below the center of gravity of the golf ball. Which means that a high strike would be better than a lower strike?