It’s hard not to get swept up with new club reviews and content but all the videos I’ve seen so far just further validates my decision to keep my TSR3 at least for another generation. Frankly it just doesn’t make sense financially or performance wise to replace a driver every year or every other year. The gains just aren’t there.
Hey just trying to get someone’s un biased opinion. I have a tsr3 that I bought used off the shelf. And I have a hard time closing the face as I have with every drive in recent years. BUT titelist is coming to my area to do outdoor fittings. Just curious if you think it might be worth truly getting fit outdoors even if the driver heads aren’t much of an improvement?
@@grindano Depending on your launch conditions etc. What you could try is knocking the driver up in loft on the surefit setting. What that will do is close the face slightly to help. But it could be swing/patch/face closure to many variables. I would say go get fit and see what you are fitted into. But if its a bad fitting session and you have not hit or performed well take all information from the fitting with a pinch of salt. You have to be swinging well and hitting your normal shots as you would be.
I did a test fitting last week with the GT2 against my TSR2. Dropped spin, increased distance and similar to you Michael, tightened up dispersion significantly. The only thing putting me off changing is the huge price. My TSR with a Tour AD shaft was NZ$1200, the GT with the same shaft will set me back $1700 - that's a whopping increase! So the TSR will stay in my bag.
I went to Dicks, they said they can fit the new GT2 two to my existing shaft I’m coming out of a Titleist driver and the connector is the same. If you like the shaft, that’s gonna save you several hundred bucks.
TSR3 is the best driver I’ve ever owned and I’ve been playing 30 -32 years. I was custom fit in the fall of 2023 for it with a Hzdrs Red CB 6.0 50 gram shaft and I’m good for another 4-5 years. Can’t be dropping $500-$650 every 2 years and expecting major changes in my driving. Been down that road many times over the last 10 years! I’m sure there are marginal gains in distance but definitely not enough to drop $650 on a GT driver.
TSR was getting killed in retail by Callaway, Ping , and TM. PXG driver finally has a strong offering in 24. GT was fast tracked earlier than expected to compete with the others .
@@fredgarvin4252 They might have need getting killed in retail, but it wasn’t due to poor performance. I know I don’t see many used TSr drivers around. I see more Calloway and TaylotMade.
@@fredgarvin4252 fast tracked??? They released in August as they have with all their releases in recent history… they released right on schedule as expected.
I'm still in the Tsi3. I love it. I know at this point in time as far as tech goes, speed is essentially maxed out. The only real gains are forgiveness. Is the GT going to give me a ton more fairways? Probably not. Distance? Nope. Forgiveness? Marginal at best. For me personally, unless Titleist wishes to sponsor me and provide a GT it's not going in the bag. If anything I would look for a TSR online second hand that someone decided was no longer good enough. If anything it would be the TSR4. I want to hit the low spin bomber. The other factor for me, I like to shape the ball. How easy is it to hit a draw with the GT? It's hard enough with the Tsi3. I can't imagine taking more spin off. There's like no chance of turning 1 over if you wanted. For me unless the price is to good to pass up, it will be a no.
If you struggle to turn the TSi3 (my driver) over, you are probably not good enough to be playing a TSi3 or GT3. Maybe go get yourself a nice TSi1/TSR1 or wait for the GT1. Maybe go get a Ping Max or something. The Titleist 3 line is clearly not for you
I'm still playing TSi3. I doubt I'm changing anytime soon. There's no way they've made a driver significantly better than that one. Especially for what they're charging. Outrageous prices.
TSR is significantly better in every way over the TSi, not sure about the GT but you’re missing out on feel/sound at a minimum in the TSi over the other two.
Good review, thanks. I went with Taylor Stealth 2 year ago, and after 6 months ditched it and went back to Titleist 913, yes now 11 years old. I have now ordered a GT3 due to significant gains in all areas, but understand why TSR users are not convinced due to marginal gains. The GT range is fantastic, and interestingly for me, I have gone back to a regular shaft after playing stiff for 45 years. The extra flex gave me 3-4mph club head speed with no adverse dispersion.
Personally, I like the look of the TSR Line of drivers better. I have the TSR2 and love it. Something just looks off about the GT line. I think part of it is the look of the club on the bottom. I like the shape of the clubhead of the TSR line better.
Okay I did get the TSR3 and tried another shaft and I gotta say I am going with the Cobra Darkspeed LS instead with HZRDuS TX black in rainbow 🌈 colors and it just simply outperforms the Titleist. The TsR3 face feels hotter but the forgiving Cobra and distance can’t be compared
I’ve been in my GT3 8* for 10 days and I’m seeing significantly better misses (my miss is a fraction into the heel). Two years with my TSR3 8* definitively show that a fraction into the heel is punishing (for me) with TSR3 - seeing a floaty higher spin ball flight. For me GT3 just goes - with a slightly higher launch and generally tighter spin profile - and generally feels hotter, in my opinion. Ventus TR Black 6x in both. Cheers Michael, great content as always 🍻
@@edanzore I’m well-fit into the shaft, as numerous others who have described the same with TSR3 would be. And, JJ Van Weezenbeeck, titleist’s main tour fitter has spoken to this point as well in other launch videos. In any case: GT, for me, addresses a miss I’ve lived with in TSR (and I still love and recommend TSR3) 🍻
Just had a custom fitting for GT3 and had a TSR3 fitting few months ago -> got exactly the same shaft, loft and settings so seems consistent. The fitter will sell his TSR3 heads at a discount now when they're being replaced, so I will probably go for that. What I saw with the GT3 was 1 or 2 more MPH, but that could be the daily form. It was very consistent on good strikes, and pretty decent on bad onces, just as this video shows - will make a decision based on what price on old heads are. They're neck-on-neck for me...
Good video....just in time also! I am getting fitted for the GT series of drivers this coming Friday. I currently use the TaylorMade R7 Quad and hit it well for my age (58). I average right at 250 yards off the tee. It will be an interesting fitting. I am curious how much new technology will help or am I so used to my R7, I won't see much change.
Compared to the R7 the technology will be night and day. The new stuff will have stronger ball speed all over the face and the forgiveness upgrade will be significant. R7 was a great driver back in the day, but it required a centre strike. Good luck with the fitting, i know it will be great.
It’s nice to see the GT retains better spin numbers than TSR. Other channels and even myself noticed TSR has the tendency to hit those high floaty ones to the right. Obviously that’s club face related but so far it seems GT has really improved on that
No one is going to hit the ball 20 yards further with a new driver, or reduce their handicap. It is just the shiny new toy and I used to be guilty of this and if you can afford it, treat yourself. It is called MARKETING, fleece the money out of your pocket, cars, phones, clothes, (wives) all the same. Some of the comments, lower flight, less spin, too high, too much spin, better feel, nice white lines, utter pish, it's only a golf club.
I had a fitting yesterday and I hit the GT2 better than all the others (TY Qi10 was 2nd) I didn't need to swing it hard to reach 250+ I was taken aback by the price though - I cannot justify £580 for a novice player. I have been looking for lower-cost alternatives and the TS2 is way more affordable - I just hope it can hit nearly as good.
I play the TSi2 and that was me upgrading from a Taylormade M6. I’ve been pleased with the TSi and it is staying in the bag. I can’t justify paying the crazy prices for marginal upgrades
Michael's consitent swings allows for a fair comparison so I always trust his reviews. I have a TSR3/Ventus shaft combo so this review was spot on and I can't see me spending more money to get the same carry withh only 5 more yards of total distance and putting the left side more in play. There has to be an astounding difference to justify the GTs cost and it's not there for me.
Hey Michael! Awesome content as usual. I'm curious about you playing a 6-X Ventus 1/2" shorter with a club head speed around 110mph. Any reason why? Isn't it too stiff for those numbers? Thank you!
Here’s my situation: I have the TSi3 (not the TSR3). Is there enough difference in your opinion to go to the GT over the TSi (assuming the price is not a show-stopper)?
This just shows that newer drivers doesn’t automatically mean better. I’ve tried so many drivers out, and I still go back to the original sim. Hit more fairways and it goes further than any other driver I’ve hit.
I'll keep my callaway big bertha b21...it's not as sexy as the Titleists but Michael's review with 112.8 SS was 297 carry, total 330ish, and it's forgiving.
I have Tsr and agree I could not tell what so ever where I was hitting on the face on gt3! They say it sounds and feels the same but I couldn’t disagree more!
@@leeparker700 well I’ve got some sad news.. I just went to a driver fitting. And ended up in a A.I smoke triple d. I hadn’t been fit since 2007! My Tsr3 on the best hits were spinning 3,000 rpm and a miss that Would occasionally end up 3 fairways right. The smoke was hands down more consistent that any other driver for me… and I wanted the titelist soo bad, but the results of the callaway for me were just to good!
Technology wise golf clubs has already reached the maximun level. including regulations. small improvements may mean a big change depending what each individual player is asking for. i might choose gt cause i need my ball in the fairway.
My thought on this maybe go up a degree on GT to see if gets your spin up to optimal 2200 to 2400 range. Question what is the weight of head of TSR3 vs GT3? I find the TSR3 easier to get to the middle even using same shaft. Tough to change at MSRP 650.00 not that much improvement.
@@DHall24 I know I shouldn’t judge a club based on how the bottom looks, as the top of Gt and Tsr are basically identical. But damn the Tsr from the bottom are the best looking clubs!! Lol
One man's opinion here.. unless you have a driver that's more than 5 years old, give or take, you're not gaining anything on COR. The gains will be minimal at best. It's been proven over and over by so many people. For off-center hits, probably some advantage with a "newer" head design, but again it's all in how you strike the ball. I switched from my Sim head into a Stealth 2 only because it developed a crack. Otherwise, I'd still be in that. Thanks for being impartial Michael and not pushing the latest and greatest as just that.
I think I'm done spending money on equipment. My 10 year old Mizuno irons still compete with my new ones and my Cobra Radspeed is dirt cheap and still competing with drivers 3x more expensive. Picking the right ball has made more difference than my clubs. Everyone is different though and you just have to realize Jordan was Jordan and it had little to do with his shoes.
Distance loss on mishits with my TSR2 can be up to 30 yards. Distance loss on mishits during my fitting with the GT drivers, 10 to 15 yards. Got fit into a GT3 surprisingly, and got better distance numbers, better than my TRS2 and Ping G430 10K. The GT Drivers are low spin and you will need to get fit to determine the best driver head and shaft combo to maximize potential.
Was fitted yesterday. I hit GT3, TSR3 and Smoke TD and had very similar results to Michael's. Compared to my 5 yo gamer, I gained 2-3mph ball speed with TSR. and it was the best overall. GT didn't really do anything much better, no matter the shaft. Both TSR and GT did better than Smoke TD. Easy decision, as TSR was now 250€ cheaper than GT.
I bought GT4, but all I was getting were low hooks and the sound was terrible. 🤷♂ Put TSR3 right back in the bag. It's probably there to stay. It's just so good.
Tried the Gt with same shaft as my tsr3 , dispersion was better than tsr but not enough for change , strange one I was 7 yards further with tsr3 ? , won't be swapping
Another “crackin” vid 😉 I know in your position it’s an easier switch but picturing yourselves as a middle income golf consumer, would you make the switch with trading in the tsr3 and such? I’m guessing no since it’s a solid head regardless
Still in my TSi3 and can’t really see much reason to spend £600 on upgrading any time soon, the same as when TSR3 came out, almost the exact same driver with a different logo!
few owners of the TSR range are going to switch to the GT but how much difference is there for a 917 owner, a TS owner or a TSi owner? Those are the people more likely to upgrade but there's simply no comparisons being made.
I switched from a 910 D2 mid last year to a TSR3. All I can say is WOW!!! it was a night and day difference. Definitely recommend anybody with a driver older than about 7+years old. It would definitely be in your interest to be fitted for these newer drivers. The technology is just sooo different. I gained over 30 yards and I am able to keep the ball in play more since my spin was reduced a lot. Wish everyone the best.
I hit the GT3 side by side with my TSR3 and the ball speed went about about 2mph but the sound and feel is nowhere near as good as the TSR, dunno how u can say u can’t tell them apart 🤨 the difference was huge
I’ve spent a good amount of money on clubs….but these brands are just making it impossible anymore to keep up with new equipment when drivers are $700 and new irons are $1300…it’s just insane and I hope they realize it one day
Higher spin has been the issue for Titleist drivers for years now, so it's clear they've spotted it, and listened to players. But, if this is how low spin the GT3 is, then I wonder who the GT4 is aimed at.
I will be honest though, I still feel like the TSR3 beats the GT3 in the looks department. Just that simple design on the top of club head with no branding other than on the sides of the club head just looks absolutely incredible.
My TSR3 with BGT Brava shaft is not going anywhere. I haven’t seen the benefit to moving to the GT3. It’s not just this review, either- the results from other reviews show the same results.
@@edanzore based on this review? He’s getting very little extra than his own TSR, I’m wasting nobody’s time. I’ve paid for my fitting. The majority of reviews I have seen there’s very little difference in the drivers. Hopefully for me there’s a big difference but if results are like Michaels I wouldn’t change.
I've been gaming the TSR since release. I saw the reviews leading up to my GT fitting and assumed it likely wasn't worth the upgrade but I changed my mind after the fitting. Distance gain is minimal on centered strikes, assuming one was correctly fitted on their gamer. You gain a bit of club head speed due to the lighter and improved design. The BIGGEST difference is off-center strikes, especially in the heel. I was pleasantly surprised seeing how well the GT3 mitigated my usual low-heel miss. Backspin numbers remained tight and didn't skyrocket on my low-heel misses.
@@604Dean thanks mate, I’ve been gaming titleist for 20 years. My comment was only about all reviews I had seen. Hopefully like yourself I get better numbers from the GT.
@@Golfblues1798 I understand the sticker shock when people see the GT prices. I'm sure TSR users would change their tone if they got fitted for the GT and saw how good off-center strikes are with the GT. I always take advantage of the free fittings Titleist offers for new releases.
I’m assuming you have a heavier weight in your TSR3 due to it being 1/2” short? Did you put a heavier weight in the GT3 for this test? Apologies if I missed that in the video.
I'm going to keep my TSR until I either destroy it somehow and need a new one, or the next round comes out in a couple years and the GT prices drop. I've watched several reviews like this and I can't justify the cost for what seems to be a minimal difference...
Keeping my TSR3. Flat out not a fan of the sole of the GT series. Looks basic to me and the TSR looks much better imo. Also not a fan of the GT3 being a low spin driver. The number 4 in the series was the low spin offering previously (TSi4, TSr4, etc) so its strange they are shuffling the deck a bit here.
The gains have flattened out for average weekend golfers for the past 10 years - it’s the marketing hype and the need to return dividends to these companies share holders is the real reason they need to make new product claims. $1000 bucks in Australia better spent at pub or on a lesson….not on a driver
I only purchased my TSR3 middle of last year and typically keep my gamer driver for 3 years. My setup and numbers are similar; Speeder Platinum 5X tipped 1” at 44.75”. My ball speed average is 162, launch 12.8*, spin 2450. I can’t see me even demoing the GT3 for fear the numbers would be better🤣. I’m so pleased with the TSR3, best, most consistent driver I’ve ever owned. My son is playing the AI Smoke TD w/Ventus Black 6X he purchased in Spring and I had opportunity to try for a round in June, when I flew out to visit him. Awesome driver though I prefer the sound and feel of TSR3, I had to look at face to know where my misses were. Even though they are same D4 swingweight, it was just a much greater effort to swing that driver on backside. Obviously sticking with the TSR3. Did you have chance to try the GT4? My local pro says it’s more forgiving, or at least it can be setup to be due to the dual weights, front and rear. If I had to switch at this point, I’d likely give that a demo along with GT3.
I currently have a TSR... From what I have seen, there is a minimal difference between these two clubs. Why would anyone spend $500+ for basically the same performance? Makes zero sense...other than vanity.
The GT3 this year is a very low MOI and low spin driver, you'll pick up 1-2 mph because of a forward CG but to me they've sacrificed too much forgiveness.
I decided im gunna buy it. But im gunna buy it next yr when the prices drop slightly. Im not trading my TSR, which im great with, for a slightly better driver that costs $700. It may not even be slightly better, which is crazy
Like your channel but you might be selling out for Titleist to sell their new driver for $649. If one goes for a fitting at Club Champion, that person will most likely be looking at paying well over $1200. NUTS!!!! When does the ridiculous price hiking stop? People should save their money from a way over priced driver and get lessons to hit it straighter instead. SAS's channel will have a field day with this one!
It’s hard not to get swept up with new club reviews and content but all the videos I’ve seen so far just further validates my decision to keep my TSR3 at least for another generation. Frankly it just doesn’t make sense financially or performance wise to replace a driver every year or every other year. The gains just aren’t there.
Hey just trying to get someone’s un biased opinion. I have a tsr3 that I bought used off the shelf. And
I have a hard time closing the face as I have with every drive in recent years. BUT titelist is coming to my area to do outdoor fittings. Just curious if you think it might be worth truly getting fit outdoors even if the driver heads aren’t much of an improvement?
@@grindano Depending on your launch conditions etc. What you could try is knocking the driver up in loft on the surefit setting. What that will do is close the face slightly to help. But it could be swing/patch/face closure to many variables. I would say go get fit and see what you are fitted into. But if its a bad fitting session and you have not hit or performed well take all information from the fitting with a pinch of salt. You have to be swinging well and hitting your normal shots as you would be.
@@grindanothat's your fault for not getting fit
My tsr3 is staying in my bag best driver I ever owned. I will look at the fairways this time around.
@grindano just adjust the loft sleeve. Look up "titleist lift sleeve" on Google and it'll explain it 👍
Appreciate this unbiased review. Fair comparison and makes sense.
I purchesed TSR2 last year.
I will purchese GT3 this year.
I did a test fitting last week with the GT2 against my TSR2. Dropped spin, increased distance and similar to you Michael, tightened up dispersion significantly. The only thing putting me off changing is the huge price. My TSR with a Tour AD shaft was NZ$1200, the GT with the same shaft will set me back $1700 - that's a whopping increase! So the TSR will stay in my bag.
Order the GT with a stock shaft and switch them over
@@deanholmes967 That's not a bad idea actually.
I'm excited the same is it worth the huge upgrade fee for slightly tighter dispersion 🤔🤔
I went to Dicks, they said they can fit the new GT2 two to my existing shaft I’m coming out of a Titleist driver and the connector is the same. If you like the shaft, that’s gonna save you several hundred bucks.
Curious if you should get fitted for a different shaft and see if that helps make a difference with results.
Nice honest review, those clubs are damn near the same for anyone who has a TSR I see no reason to drop money on a GT.
Always useful and insightful information. A legacy of comparison tests, and great advice for years.
TSR3 is the best driver I’ve ever owned and I’ve been playing 30 -32 years. I was custom fit in the fall of 2023 for it with a Hzdrs Red CB 6.0 50 gram shaft and I’m good for another 4-5 years. Can’t be dropping $500-$650 every 2 years and expecting major changes in my driving. Been down that road many times over the last 10 years! I’m sure there are marginal gains in distance but definitely not enough to drop $650 on a GT driver.
The TSr has been as good, or better than the new 2024 models from other brands. Great video.
TSR was getting killed in retail by Callaway, Ping , and TM. PXG driver finally has a strong
offering in 24. GT was fast tracked earlier than expected to compete with the others .
@@fredgarvin4252 They might have need getting killed in retail, but it wasn’t due to poor performance. I know I don’t see many used TSr drivers around. I see more Calloway and TaylotMade.
@@fredgarvin4252 fast tracked??? They released in August as they have with all their releases in recent history… they released right on schedule as expected.
@@fredgarvin4252usually the same.Every two years
I'm still in the Tsi3. I love it. I know at this point in time as far as tech goes, speed is essentially maxed out. The only real gains are forgiveness. Is the GT going to give me a ton more fairways? Probably not. Distance? Nope. Forgiveness? Marginal at best. For me personally, unless Titleist wishes to sponsor me and provide a GT it's not going in the bag. If anything I would look for a TSR online second hand that someone decided was no longer good enough. If anything it would be the TSR4. I want to hit the low spin bomber. The other factor for me, I like to shape the ball. How easy is it to hit a draw with the GT? It's hard enough with the Tsi3. I can't imagine taking more spin off. There's like no chance of turning 1 over if you wanted. For me unless the price is to good to pass up, it will be a no.
I’m definitely gonna upgrade from my TSi3 to a used TSR3 this year though!
If you struggle to turn the TSi3 (my driver) over, you are probably not good enough to be playing a TSi3 or GT3. Maybe go get yourself a nice TSi1/TSR1 or wait for the GT1. Maybe go get a Ping Max or something. The Titleist 3 line is clearly not for you
@ben1ben2ben1 I don't struggle to turn it over. I can turn it over, sometimes it's quite a bit too much.
I'm still playing TSi3. I doubt I'm changing anytime soon. There's no way they've made a driver significantly better than that one. Especially for what they're charging. Outrageous prices.
TSR is significantly better in every way over the TSi, not sure about the GT but you’re missing out on feel/sound at a minimum in the TSi over the other two.
Good review, thanks. I went with Taylor Stealth 2 year ago, and after 6 months ditched it and went back to Titleist 913, yes now 11 years old. I have now ordered a GT3 due to significant gains in all areas, but understand why TSR users are not convinced due to marginal gains. The GT range is fantastic, and interestingly for me, I have gone back to a regular shaft after playing stiff for 45 years. The extra flex gave me 3-4mph club head speed with no adverse dispersion.
Great Video as always
Comparing the two different driver heads always helps determine which driver to buy, always get fitted also
Personally, I like the look of the TSR Line of drivers better. I have the TSR2 and love it. Something just looks off about the GT line. I think part of it is the look of the club on the bottom. I like the shape of the clubhead of the TSR line better.
Same got a TsR3 with a 1k black Tensei coming soon 😊
I thought the same. The new one looks "cheap" in comparison. More generic.
Woah dudes I hit the TSR3 today and holy 🤯 moly I have never felt a hotter face before
Me too!! Cheers 🇨🇦
Okay I did get the TSR3 and tried another shaft and I gotta say I am going with the Cobra Darkspeed LS instead with HZRDuS TX black in rainbow 🌈 colors and it just simply outperforms the Titleist. The TsR3 face feels hotter but the forgiving Cobra and distance can’t be compared
I’ve been in my GT3 8* for 10 days and I’m seeing significantly better misses (my miss is a fraction into the heel). Two years with my TSR3 8* definitively show that a fraction into the heel is punishing (for me) with TSR3 - seeing a floaty higher spin ball flight. For me GT3 just goes - with a slightly higher launch and generally tighter spin profile - and generally feels hotter, in my opinion. Ventus TR Black 6x in both. Cheers Michael, great content as always 🍻
yeh my buddys miss is lower heal, and tsr3 was not great for him 4 cap.
That has to do with shaft
@@edanzore I’m well-fit into the shaft, as numerous others who have described the same with TSR3 would be. And, JJ Van Weezenbeeck, titleist’s main tour fitter has spoken to this point as well in other launch videos. In any case: GT, for me, addresses a miss I’ve lived with in TSR (and I still love and recommend TSR3) 🍻
They aren’t available to the public until Aug 23rd so wondering how you are playing with it already? I have the GT3 coming and can’t wait
Fair analysis. I think it depends on the person. Some may see better gains with the GT.
That’s me keeping my TSR3 then 🤣🏌️♂️
Just had a custom fitting for GT3 and had a TSR3 fitting few months ago -> got exactly the same shaft, loft and settings so seems consistent.
The fitter will sell his TSR3 heads at a discount now when they're being replaced, so I will probably go for that.
What I saw with the GT3 was 1 or 2 more MPH, but that could be the daily form. It was very consistent on good strikes, and pretty decent on bad onces, just as this video shows - will make a decision based on what price on old heads are. They're neck-on-neck for me...
Good video....just in time also!
I am getting fitted for the GT series of drivers this coming Friday. I currently use the TaylorMade R7 Quad and hit it well for my age (58). I average right at 250 yards off the tee. It will be an interesting fitting. I am curious how much new technology will help or am I so used to my R7, I won't see much change.
Compared to the R7 the technology will be night and day. The new stuff will have stronger ball speed all over the face and the forgiveness upgrade will be significant. R7 was a great driver back in the day, but it required a centre strike. Good luck with the fitting, i know it will be great.
It’s nice to see the GT retains better spin numbers than TSR. Other channels and even myself noticed TSR has the tendency to hit those high floaty ones to the right. Obviously that’s club face related but so far it seems GT has really improved on that
Great and honest review. I saw about the same thing when I got fit for the GT. Decided to save 105$US and not do the upgrade either.
Forget the drivers. What about the consisteny of ball striking? Amazing stuff Michael
Thanks, Michael! Your channel is awesome!
Just bought a TSR2 head on eBay for 250 and a shaft for another $100 lol 😂 basically same at GT
No one is going to hit the ball 20 yards further with a new driver, or reduce their handicap. It is just the shiny new toy and I used to be guilty of this and if you can afford it, treat yourself. It is called MARKETING, fleece the money out of your pocket, cars, phones, clothes, (wives) all the same.
Some of the comments, lower flight, less spin, too high, too much spin, better feel, nice white lines, utter pish, it's only a golf club.
I had a fitting yesterday and I hit the GT2 better than all the others (TY Qi10 was 2nd) I didn't need to swing it hard to reach 250+ I was taken aback by the price though - I cannot justify £580 for a novice player. I have been looking for lower-cost alternatives and the TS2 is way more affordable - I just hope it can hit nearly as good.
Great info as usual Michael. I think TSR3 lives for another season for sure.
I play the TSi2 and that was me upgrading from a Taylormade M6. I’ve been pleased with the TSi and it is staying in the bag. I can’t justify paying the crazy prices for marginal upgrades
Michael's consitent swings allows for a fair comparison so I always trust his reviews. I have a TSR3/Ventus shaft combo so this review was spot on and I can't see me spending more money to get the same carry withh only 5 more yards of total distance and putting the left side more in play. There has to be an astounding difference to justify the GTs cost and it's not there for me.
Hey Michael! Awesome content as usual. I'm curious about you playing a 6-X Ventus 1/2" shorter with a club head speed around 110mph. Any reason why? Isn't it too stiff for those numbers? Thank you!
Here’s my situation: I have the TSi3 (not the TSR3). Is there enough difference in your opinion to go to the GT over the TSi (assuming the price is not a show-stopper)?
Yes. I saw gains in the GT2 over my TSR2
@Michael Newton Golf how does the new 2024 Ventus Black feel and perform compared to the original one?
fantastic review mate
This just shows that newer drivers doesn’t automatically mean better. I’ve tried so many drivers out, and I still go back to the original sim. Hit more fairways and it goes further than any other driver I’ve hit.
I'll keep my callaway big bertha b21...it's not as sexy as the Titleists but Michael's review with 112.8 SS was 297 carry, total 330ish, and it's forgiving.
I play tsr2 could you do a comparison with gt2 please so how more forgiving the gt is 👍👍
I have a tsr3 , tried the GT3 and was really impressed with miss hits , didn’t like the fact that I couldn’t feel where on the face I was hitting it
I have Tsr and agree I could not tell what so ever where I was hitting on the face on gt3! They say it sounds and feels the same but I couldn’t disagree more!
@@grindano
Will keep the TSR as in my opinion it also sounds and feels better
@@leeparker700 well I’ve got some sad news.. I just went to a driver fitting. And ended up in a A.I smoke triple d. I hadn’t been fit since 2007! My Tsr3 on the best hits were spinning 3,000 rpm and a miss that
Would occasionally end up 3 fairways right. The smoke was hands down more consistent that any other driver for me… and I wanted the titelist soo bad, but the results of the callaway for me were just to good!
Technology wise golf clubs has already reached the maximun level. including regulations. small improvements may mean a big change depending what each individual player is asking for. i might choose gt cause i need my ball in the fairway.
My thought on this maybe go up a degree on GT to see if gets your spin up to optimal 2200 to 2400 range. Question what is the weight of head of TSR3 vs GT3? I find the TSR3 easier to get to the middle even using same shaft. Tough to change at MSRP 650.00 not that much improvement.
Honestly I prefer the look of the TSR range. Great time to find a used one!
@@DHall24 I know I shouldn’t judge a club based on how the bottom looks, as the top of Gt and Tsr are basically identical. But damn the Tsr from the bottom are the best looking clubs!! Lol
@@grindano i completely agree. So aesthetically pleasing. Makes you want to pull it out the bag every time. Purchasing mine soon!
One man's opinion here.. unless you have a driver that's more than 5 years old, give or take, you're not gaining anything on COR. The gains will be minimal at best. It's been proven over and over by so many people. For off-center hits, probably some advantage with a "newer" head design, but again it's all in how you strike the ball. I switched from my Sim head into a Stealth 2 only because it developed a crack. Otherwise, I'd still be in that. Thanks for being impartial Michael and not pushing the latest and greatest as just that.
Drivers have been at the max cor for way longer than 5 years. More like 15-20.
I have a TSI 2, would the change to a GT 2 bring me enough difference vs the investment?
Keeping the 917
I think I'm done spending money on equipment. My 10 year old Mizuno irons still compete with my new ones and my Cobra Radspeed is dirt cheap and still competing with drivers 3x more expensive. Picking the right ball has made more difference than my clubs. Everyone is different though and you just have to realize Jordan was Jordan and it had little to do with his shoes.
What’s your height? Why you need to cut the shaft off one inch?
What was your swingweight on GT3 ? D1 as suggested by Titleist ?
It’s in a lot of the tour bags even Rose who’s unsigned ❤
2 weeks later. Still have GT3 in bag? Get it dialed in more? Thanks
GT2 all the way , midsize grip , +2gram weight in the back 😊
Distance loss on mishits with my TSR2 can be up to 30 yards. Distance loss on mishits during my fitting with the GT drivers, 10 to 15 yards. Got fit into a GT3 surprisingly, and got better distance numbers, better than my TRS2 and Ping G430 10K. The GT Drivers are low spin and you will need to get fit to determine the best driver head and shaft combo to maximize potential.
Low spin is horrific for most golfers
@@edanzore best post on here ,unless your getting to pro level low spin will kill your game and cost you money every week on lost balls .
Was fitted yesterday. I hit GT3, TSR3 and Smoke TD and had very similar results to Michael's. Compared to my 5 yo gamer, I gained 2-3mph ball speed with TSR. and it was the best overall. GT didn't really do anything much better, no matter the shaft. Both TSR and GT did better than Smoke TD.
Easy decision, as TSR was now 250€ cheaper than GT.
I bought GT4, but all I was getting were low hooks and the sound was terrible. 🤷♂ Put TSR3 right back in the bag. It's probably there to stay. It's just so good.
I'll keep my TSR3 til my kid decides he wants it, lol. He's currently gaming my old TS3, and loves it!
Tried the Gt with same shaft as my tsr3 , dispersion was better than tsr but not enough for change , strange one I was 7 yards further with tsr3 ? , won't be swapping
Jumped through the video the GT sounds better night and day. The ball speed all over the face for consistency is crazy.
Perhaps a fitting with the new GT will improve strike. Woburn ? 😉
Another “crackin” vid 😉
I know in your position it’s an easier switch but picturing yourselves as a middle income golf consumer, would you make the switch with trading in the tsr3 and such? I’m guessing no since it’s a solid head regardless
Still in my TSi3 and can’t really see much reason to spend £600 on upgrading any time soon, the same as when TSR3 came out, almost the exact same driver with a different logo!
few owners of the TSR range are going to switch to the GT but how much difference is there for a 917 owner, a TS owner or a TSi owner? Those are the people more likely to upgrade but there's simply no comparisons being made.
I switched from a 910 D2 mid last year to a TSR3. All I can say is WOW!!! it was a night and day difference. Definitely recommend anybody with a driver older than about 7+years old. It would definitely be in your interest to be fitted for these newer drivers. The technology is just sooo different. I gained over 30 yards and I am able to keep the ball in play more since my spin was reduced a lot. Wish everyone the best.
Great review. 1900 RPMs backspin is just not enough for me.
I hit the GT3 side by side with my TSR3 and the ball speed went about about 2mph but the sound and feel is nowhere near as good as the TSR, dunno how u can say u can’t tell them apart 🤨 the difference was huge
I’ve spent a good amount of money on clubs….but these brands are just making it impossible anymore to keep up with new equipment when drivers are $700 and new irons are $1300…it’s just insane and I hope they realize it one day
Higher spin has been the issue for Titleist drivers for years now, so it's clear they've spotted it, and listened to players. But, if this is how low spin the GT3 is, then I wonder who the GT4 is aimed at.
I'm looking at upgrading my tsi2. Do I go gt2 or tsr2 ?
If u fight low spin..tsr. If you fight high spin...gt
The previous TSR3 reviews a year ago had much closer dispersion than shown in this video.
No one is a robot and can produce the identical swing, in your cases, year in year out, so a like for like on the day is completely fine.
I just checked your TSI3 driver review.
Your TSI3 Tested data is better than GT3 and TSR3
Is it really better or you are loosing power?
I will be honest though, I still feel like the TSR3 beats the GT3 in the looks department. Just that simple design on the top of club head with no branding other than on the sides of the club head just looks absolutely incredible.
My TSR3 with BGT Brava shaft is not going anywhere. I haven’t seen the benefit to moving to the GT3. It’s not just this review, either- the results from other reviews show the same results.
Based on this I wouldn’t even think about changing and a few lads have said that. I’m going Friday to try the GT range but I doubt I’ll be upgrading.
@@Golfblues1798 then why go and waste people's time
@@edanzore based on this review? He’s getting very little extra than his own TSR, I’m wasting nobody’s time. I’ve paid for my fitting. The majority of reviews I have seen there’s very little difference in the drivers. Hopefully for me there’s a big difference but if results are like Michaels I wouldn’t change.
I've been gaming the TSR since release. I saw the reviews leading up to my GT fitting and assumed it likely wasn't worth the upgrade but I changed my mind after the fitting. Distance gain is minimal on centered strikes, assuming one was correctly fitted on their gamer. You gain a bit of club head speed due to the lighter and improved design. The BIGGEST difference is off-center strikes, especially in the heel. I was pleasantly surprised seeing how well the GT3 mitigated my usual low-heel miss. Backspin numbers remained tight and didn't skyrocket on my low-heel misses.
@@604Dean thanks mate, I’ve been gaming titleist for 20 years. My comment was only about all reviews I had seen. Hopefully like yourself I get better numbers from the GT.
@@Golfblues1798 I understand the sticker shock when people see the GT prices. I'm sure TSR users would change their tone if they got fitted for the GT and saw how good off-center strikes are with the GT. I always take advantage of the free fittings Titleist offers for new releases.
Interested to know why driver is cut short as you look like a tall man. Please can you explain why you decided to have a shorter shaft?
I’m assuming you have a heavier weight in your TSR3 due to it being 1/2” short? Did you put a heavier weight in the GT3 for this test? Apologies if I missed that in the video.
With reduced smash factor on the GT I thought the same.
Heavier head would translate to better speed with better contact.
yes both the same
A different shaft to lower spin and the TSR3 picks up 5 yards minimum. Newer doesn’t mean better anymore. They reached a ceiling a while ago.
It will be much better than r7 , don't think about age as limiting, I drive my Darkspeed LS 300 and I'm 64 , averaged 250 when I was 35
That forward weight in gt3 is less forgiving imho
I'm going to keep my TSR until I either destroy it somehow and need a new one, or the next round comes out in a couple years and the GT prices drop. I've watched several reviews like this and I can't justify the cost for what seems to be a minimal difference...
My Titleist drivers crack every 6 months so ill be looking forward to the new gt driver when my tsr3 cracks again for the 3rd time
Looked like you were drawing GT3 but you play a cut normally??
It’s funny when you like a driver so much the new one comes out and we say I hope they didn’t change anything 😂
I’ve tried all of the recent Titleist drivers and my TS3 isn’t going anywhere.
there r 3 groups of buyers for the GT, the tsi players to up grade, 10% the other brand players to switch 40% and the 3-5 old driver brigade 50%
You left off the golf techies😂. I picked up 11 yards with the GT2 over my TSR2
Might be time to update my Titleist 983k 😂
You think??😂
Keeping my TSR3. Flat out not a fan of the sole of the GT series. Looks basic to me and the TSR looks much better imo. Also not a fan of the GT3 being a low spin driver. The number 4 in the series was the low spin offering previously (TSi4, TSr4, etc) so its strange they are shuffling the deck a bit here.
Surly at that ball speed the higher spin is better for play
Is ATI still making the face material? Their name was only on the TSi 🤷♂️
Got a great deal on a tsr3 last month. Tsr looks better than the gt…fight me!
The gains have flattened out for average weekend golfers for the past 10 years - it’s the marketing hype and the need to return dividends to these companies share holders is the real reason they need to make new product claims. $1000 bucks in Australia better spent at pub or on a lesson….not on a driver
Have you switched back yet Michael
If it's for free upgrade, if not pass
I only purchased my TSR3 middle of last year and typically keep my gamer driver for 3 years. My setup and numbers are similar; Speeder Platinum 5X tipped 1” at 44.75”. My ball speed average is 162, launch 12.8*, spin 2450. I can’t see me even demoing the GT3 for fear the numbers would be better🤣.
I’m so pleased with the TSR3, best, most consistent driver I’ve ever owned. My son is playing the AI Smoke TD w/Ventus Black 6X he purchased in Spring and I had opportunity to try for a round in June, when I flew out to visit him. Awesome driver though I prefer the sound and feel of TSR3, I had to look at face to know where my misses were. Even though they are same D4 swingweight, it was just a much greater effort to swing that driver on backside. Obviously sticking with the TSR3.
Did you have chance to try the GT4? My local pro says it’s more forgiving, or at least it can be setup to be due to the dual weights, front and rear. If I had to switch at this point, I’d likely give that a demo along with GT3.
People don't like change and Titleist know this however nobody complains if they find it to be better
If you have a driver less than 5 years old, you should probably keep it.
I currently have a TSR...
From what I have seen, there is a minimal difference between these two clubs. Why would anyone spend $500+ for basically the same performance? Makes zero sense...other than vanity.
Higher launch, less spinny .... GT3 the winner!
You can do that with Any driver
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The GT3 this year is a very low MOI and low spin driver, you'll pick up 1-2 mph because of a forward CG but to me they've sacrificed too much forgiveness.
You wouldn't be the first to change from TSR3 to GT2. Try that test.
99.9% the same
Hey Michael! Do you edit videos yourself, or have you hired someone? I offer high-quality edits and would love to discuss, if you’re interested.
sound is night and day better in my testing. Not so metallic
I decided im gunna buy it. But im gunna buy it next yr when the prices drop slightly. Im not trading my TSR, which im great with, for a slightly better driver that costs $700. It may not even be slightly better, which is crazy
I think all driver reviews come back the same. Don’t upgrade from last years model. But if your driver is 4-6 years old you should upgrade
No difference for any amateur. Slight difference for a tour pro, I.e proper pro,
Like your channel but you might be selling out for Titleist to sell their new driver for $649. If one goes for a fitting at Club Champion, that person will most likely be looking at paying well over $1200. NUTS!!!! When does the ridiculous price hiking stop? People should save their money from a way over priced driver and get lessons to hit it straighter instead. SAS's channel will have a field day with this one!