A 16-year-old Indie Dev sent me their NEW FPS...Is it Trash?
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
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I like how constructive you were with the critiques, as well as gave ways to fix some issues. Great video as always!
Nice! Can ya trash my game? I mean it can you?
the price is $2.99 now
Hes 16 man I couldn't do that. At least you're giving him some credit. Just make sure you lift him up when you smash him down. I don't want him to quit what he love.
help this kid out...not only is that more a game then studio work nowadays as you know...but he knows markiting...he needs incerigment
You always need to start somewhere. Glad this kid had the balls to send this to you.
Considering how much this guy arm chair experts every low budget game he comes across.
When i was 12 i put a greenlight up of a piece of... a piece of sand, its even featured somwhere here on youtube xD You have to start some where, now im a professional dev, got an A grade on my license and make good money. Its ok to put out shit at first but you have to accept it for what it is and that you can NOT sell it. People pretending that their shit is good is really pathethic.
@MORGAN SAVENAY-BURLEY Well it depends. If your desire is only profit then yes but i pretty much started like that too. At 8 yrs i got an C++ book and i understood nothing so i did what i do: learning by doing. Stared with GameMaker modding their templates, later Web stuff and then Unity/UDK, with every project doing more and more myself. Today i would not even touch pre-made code for my projects as its not maintainable but what im trying to say is that you learn from it. Maybe not coding but other stuff. People nowadays call themselves "DevOps" or "Data Scientist" and i really dont want to sound arrogant but thats the stuff you should normally learn from exatly that: randomly trying out stuff, discovering new problems and sometimes its just stitching assets together just to learn that it is bad. Sadly many devs dont overcome to learn any more than the basic concept of code, they forget that this is only learning how to talk not how to give a speech and the reason is because they do not look over their plate and are not trying out stuff. Most of the best devs today are self taught and learned from looking at others code heck some stole others code giving 2 fs about the license. For me the question is only if someone wants to learn and give back or if someone wants to profit as much as possible while doing nothing but espicially with younger people its better to get at it calmly and make them better themselves and their skills instead of quitting.
Selling a game on Steam is not where you start. That's what itch and gamejolt are for. This kid isn't even old enough to start a business. Smoothbrains who hack templates together, and can't even wait two years to get their first penny from gamedev, are not the developers you're looking for. They overestimate their perception of quality, and have no concept of what "value" is. Their idea of game development is extremely shallow and vain.
True, but if he really spent two years on this, then he was too busy being ambitious and not learning the basics
Thank you so much Bigfry for the review and thank you to everyone for your feedback. I have fixed the 'jankiness' issue with the ADS and I am working on the sensitivity and zombie sounds before launch. I have also decided to slash the price to $2.99 for good. I appreciate everyone's support in helping me with this launch!
Edit: To all the people saying I'm not 16, I'm taking that as a compliment :)
I hope you'll continue this project. It's a pretty good start for your age ! Keep going and this will be good :)
Hope your game succeeds! Nice game at 16. Nice job!
I for one really hope you make this project a success! This is definitely one I'll be adding to my watchlist :)
Great job on the game. As someone who’s tried developing before I know how frustrating it can be and I’ve never gotten past shitty python games. Mad respect you’ve got serious skills
I actually wouldn't mind buying it, it looks smooth as hell to play
Y'know, for being a 16 year old, this is a nice step forward. Give it some polish and I think it can be pretty good
it's better than some things made by 20 year olds
@@germanwarrabbit I dont think age has anything to do with skill... when people AWE at 10-year-olds kicking ass at instruments or skateboarding it always confuses me... It's easier to learn in youth then when you're older (learning languages is a great example.) People assume because you're younger it should be harder to do things when that's just not the case, besides lifting weights. ha
bruh let me be happy in the achievements of a person that I'll never achieve myself
also someone who is 20 might have had more time in the field and still do worse than this kid who could have little to no time with this stuff
Its a 2 hours of work asset flip. I dont care if hes 30 or 10yo. It is what it is!
What stands out to me with this one is that, contrary to all the other games you cover, this one seems more "realistic in size", if that makes sense. All the other games want to do so much but can't even get the base gameplay right, whilst this one is rather "simple". Endless zombie waves, survive as long as possible, get a high-score. This feels like the first "single-dev" game, that actually seems possible to finish. It's definitely still a ton of work, but a ton of work one man can do by himself over the course of some odd years besides school as a passion project. I wish this dev all the best and hopefully he can improve this game to the point where the current price tag is justified.
Also mad respect for asking Bigfry for a review, that guy has mad courage. XD
I mean if he’s only 16 and got this far .... then congrats to him . Because I wouldn’t even be able to do this .... I hope in this video you don’t go hard on a 16 year old kid . But ima watch the whole video and see
He has potential he just need more practice and work and this kid could be a great dev
@@shoutweed5858 Definitely, it needs a little more work before it's great.
I think he just needs to hook up with some like minded people, and he's golden
@Juan Sandoval ive seen you in like 10 different comments bro you dont got better shit to do or some lmaooooo
His age doesn't play into anything.. He's trying to charge people for this muppet show.
If he was giving it away for free to get feedback and take that experience into his next project, fine.. I could agree to cut him some slack. But since he's trying to make a profit on this asset flip there's no excuse whatsoever.
As a 16 year only interested in game development. This is actually inspiring.
Is a 10 year old who makes games (and a lot of other stuff sorry) and started coding at 6 inspiring?
i hope you have tried making some games, we all didnt know what we were doing when we started, but it takes years to get to a point where you know really what you are doing
@@DashenBoi I mean if they’re pretty good then yea
Just saying, if you're interested in it, go for it. It'll be a lot easier to get into if you work on if early then if you wait.
16? Should really think about fixing this thing up. By the time you’re 18 you could send it to a university and get a scholarship for programming/computer science.
Man i got a game like this, but where i live, you dont get a scholarship, you're termed as a disgrace. People around other parts of the world are really lucky
@@purnabratakar7176 you can still send it to a university, regardless of where you live.
@@braeling3677 how? please tell me. I wanna know more
@@purnabratakar7176 Emails? You can contact schools around the world, of course expect to actually have an outstanding game if you really want them to Get you.
@@Mafiox time to get to work then
Bigfry is the Gordon Ramsey of steam indie games and you can’t change my mind
So true.
He's savage but right
except gordon actually MAKES the things he is critiquing
Not really since Gordon Ramsey usually treats kids better
@@oldarthurmorgan6319 how
@@ireadysucks3026 watch his Vids lmao he treats kids better because he thinks of them as real potential and doesn't wants the kids ego to get broken
Steps for success.
1. Release into Early Access as an Alpha, NOT a Beta.
2. Drop Price to $2.99USD.
3. Keep working on the game. Make it a passion project and use it on your resume when looking for a job.
This could be a really cool project and a great resume filler IF you take it seriously.
Some wise words right there...
I agree except for the $2.99. I think $4.99 is a fair price.
He should make it free for testing bugs and these stuff you know, in my opinion every game must have a free early acess
I would be very careful putting stuff like this on resume's unless it does "well" this could actually go against you for job interviews at studios as unpopular releases are highly frowned upon by many as it simply shows your not "good enough", if does extremely well by all means put it on.
@@D00000T if it does "well" by all means put it a portfolio, it fails thats the BIGGEST mistake you can make, universities dont really need to see this sort of stuff, you can take courses before hand in the same field (like I did) in the UK I went through college studying game development and moved on to university to study it further and one of the first things they taught us was NEVER put "bad" or "failed" projects in your portfolio as it gives you a bad light to anyone looking at your work.
I gotta be honest, this looks a lot better than most of the early access asset flips you cover. If a couple of the bugs were a bit ironed out, I would definitely buy it.
It's complete trash wym
@@jamesl5203 A 16 year old made it lol
@@jamesl5203 I'd like to see you try and make a game, my dude
@@brbr6882 thats like saying you cant say a movie or a song is bad because you cant make one yourself.
@@DamePicko he's implying that this guy has no experience in the field or in critiquing these types of things. He's in no position to be critiquing this SIXTEEN year old kid's project in EARLY DEVELOPMENT and telling him it's trash. From a developer'd standpoint it looks like a very solid start to a game. I've seen kids in college programs for this stuff come up with worse early builds.
For a game that's been made by a 16 year old who started the production at 14 years old, I think it's pretty impressive.
@Juan Sandoval I’m not gonna pretend to be some game dev but if he was learning how to make a game and it was his first time, why would he spend all his time on the assets? Like he’s a one man team who just seems to be trying to learn so he threw in assets to make it easier. Seems reasonable to me, let’s him focus on other more important stuff stop hating get a life
And you just take his word for that? This pile of garbage took 2 years? Yeah.. this is not for everyone.
@Juan Sandoval ok
@@azynkron ok
@Juan Sandoval you do realise that even if you’re just putting assets together to create a game, it’s not as simple as that right?
Dev: "Keep in mind that I'm just 16"
Also dev: ask a review to Bigfry...
Yeah he gotta be prepared to have his ass kicked lol
nelson sexton was 16 when he was making unturned
@@JoacoZM Yeah, 16 isn't all that impressive...
Or maybe I just salty that I didn't release the game I working on then.
Not impressive he is 16. Impressive he knew who Bigfry is and still had the balls to ask him to review it lol.
I mean for a 16 year old dev this is definitely impressive
Right lol
Facts
@Juan Sandoval lol
@Juan Sandoval Exactly, that's what ticked me off.
@Juan Sandoval but the underlying technical aspect. The coding, scripting, etc. isn’t that the hard part?
He def needs to hold out on release but props on what he's created and bigger props for having the balls to send it to you XD
that weapon fov makes me uncomfortable
That motion blur makes me uncomfortable as well lol
plot twist : "developer write in the email he is 16 so Bigfry will not shit-talking about his game and send everyone to buy it" :D
According to the trade register, he is actually 16. His mom set up an LTD. The game is still nothing that should be placed on a market place (its basically an Asset Flip), and rather get feedback on an Indy site, and learn from it.
Very impressive considering he started this at age 14. At that age i was too hooked on playing games that i only started learning to make them at age 18. Im sure he will create much better games if he keeps it up
**laughs maniacally**
"I don't wanna be mean."
Bigfry: "What is 7 dollars?! It's a meal"
Me in Brazil: "Porra isso é quase 50 conto"
Big games get regional tags, indies often forget (are unable to?) about that
I wouldn't ever consider it for same reason as you, at the economy's current state
KKKKKKKKKKKKKK tifude
What does that mean?
@@raddox7 "Fuck, this is almost $50"
@@raddox7 it means "fuck that's almost R$50" (the brazilian coin, reais)
any brazilian here correct me if im wrong
Lol. I hope to see bigfry review my game soon hehehe
@Cody Brown oof
@@BigfryTV F
@@BigfryTV F
@Cody Brown Maybe because he reviews SHIT games lol
@Cody Brown F
unfortunately the zombie models and the whole gore system etc inst made by him. Its a gore template you can buy as an asset. That goes for almost all of the models etc in the game as well. Its an asset flip with a 16 year old sob story behind it.
Jeez that’s too bad :(
The gunplay reminds me of killing floor 2 tbh
I hope no one really thought the kid was actually making a game from scratch. People are underestimating how easy unity/unreal engine makes it to throw together a game from assets.
@@davidzakharias4170
I mean, personally, it is fairly easy if you are making a 2D game.
But 3D? Fuck no, that's a whole other ballpark.
@@h1tsc4n40 Yes it's harder, but only if you're making your own assets. For an FPS game all you need is a template player controller, some raycasting for the hit registration and pathfinding for the zombies which is just a basic navmesh when the enemies do nothing except follow you.
Absolutely love the content, I'm amazed that a 16 year old made this. Not an amazing game but certainly impressive. Honestly I would be a beta tester for him if he was willing to have them.
@Juan Sandoval well rip
@Juan Sandoval bruh get out lmao
@Juan Sandoval how about a link, if you're so sure that it's an asset flip
@Juan Sandoval you really love to shit on people who are just starting their career huh?
@Juan Sandoval Liar, go back to being irrelevant.
When your screen started shaking when you was aiming at the zombie, i laughed so hard i dropped my damn ice cream..you owe me an ice cream. King cone
Yeah if he released it on itchy maybe slowly improved it kinda how ravenfield progressed then released on steam
A 16 years old throwing himself into the meat grinder , something to be proud of
Same feels like gun play is great but the rest is meh.
Gotta give him crédit. Even though it is janky and really early, it is a Lot more playable than other shooters big fry played
"I don't want to trash on it" "this game is so janky"
Guys a knob.
@@stan464 well the game is shit lol. I know its a kid so you wanna go easy on him, but poorly done asset flips need to be called out if he's ever actually gonna make something of himself in this industry
@@anguishedcarpet I bet you can't do half of this.
@@anguishedcarpet keep in mind, at 16 you haven’t gone to college yet. If he really wants to get into game development, that’s where he’s going to learn the bulk of the stuff he’ll need to know to get started. For a 14 year old without formal education, it’s good. If he goes to college for game design, he will certainly be a good developer
@@anguishedcarpet you should be a game dev to understand how much effort he'd to put into the game to get that result, and I don't think you're.......
Eh, kid's got game, maybe something will become of him one day.
The weapon collision stuff is a cool idea but if he's gonna go with the enemies also colliding with it, he should make it so the player throws a melee attack that pushes them away or something when he's in the "weapon collides with environment" state. Otherwise is gonna get old really fast.
He should totally keep tweaking and polishing it.
Seriously, this dude needs more time and i think he has something here. Fix the ADS collisions, audio for the zombies to be improved, work on the animations a bit, and he's solid, i think. Dude's 16 and is got better quality than most of the other shit you've reviewed! XD
And most importantly: testing testing testing. Test early and test often. True for any kind of software development, really, not just games. I see this problem in bigger games (and other software) too. 3 years in development, and then they give the QA people like 3 weeks to test. The cost of fixing bugs increases the later in development the bugs are found.
I can feel the firing from the gun like MW, also the slow mo after headshots are awesome. As a first project, this looks amazing.
It's pretty decent but did not expect it to be coming out the 4th. Thought it was in early development, I recommend the developer delaying the launch cause it does have potential, if you launch it will ruin it.
For a 16 year old, I'm impressed and will even buy the game for my brother & i, in the hopes the money will help him out.
I think this needs a bit more time, and then to go early access for 5 bucks. Great work for where he's at.
the guns are from UE4 marketplace from a pack called "Weapon Factory" hes not even changed the weapon name it says prototype01 in this video and on the asset demonstration...cant believe he paid over a $100 for the weapon pack though
this entire thing is an asset flip. I'll never understand why people set themselves up to fail like this. He gets a shitty asset flip on steam for 3 bucks and then what? He obv can't code very well/at all, he obv can't model/uv/texture/animate, so why do all this? It isn't going to lead to a career, not a fulfilling one anyway, unless he wants to go the third world country game studio route and flood steam with shit content and game the trading card system lol
Facts
i'm 17 and the last time i wanted to make a game i quit before even trying, props to him, he's done a great job so far.
Yeah, asset flipping is super hard
Damn, I'm 16 and I wouldn't know where to begin with designing a game
I Feel Main Problem aside from jank is the seemingly same gameplay loop over and over. Maybe add corridors and stuff like that
Bro you’re kidding me this is more than just impressive a 16 year old made this in two years that’s wild!
Actually two years is a lot he could do way better in two years
@Wixeus wdym i've made over 30 games
@Wixeus honestly he probably could. The game is clearly an asset flip, and could take less than a month to make.
Edit: and even if I give the benefit of the doubt and say he made most of the assets, there is quite little overall polish and content for 2 years.
Edit 2: turns out someone found that he was using a 100 dollar asset pack for the guns and didn’t even change the gun name from prototype01 🤦♂️
I wish this kid a good bright future. He did something 90% of grownups cant do in their life.
As a 10 year old who is pouring their heart out into vfx, skits, games, models, animations, raps, beats, and more, yet not getting any popularity, you are making me cry
Im also 16 and i made my first game not so long ago, it's just a galaga rip-off, so mad respect for this guy
The game looks fine. He just needs to take a step back and actually learn how to code
It seems to be just some bugs. He said he’s fixed most of the big issues
I've taken years to learn to code, yet I am still trash. All I know is like 25% of like 8 coding languages
So to me this looks like a pretty decent tech demo that the kid achieved while learning game dev. It's got bugs and its issues. It's not imaginative with gameplay design and is very shallow. But honestly I'd still be proud of achieving that. Now there's nothing wrong with putting yourself out there and letting people pay money and have a go on your game, maybe there will be a few people that will get it and enjoy it for a bit, but if you are reading this my advice would be this:
I'm not gonna tell you to put the price down and the other stuff people say, (though I will agree) do what you like with that.
What I will say is treat this as the learning experience it's been. It's a tech demo and an experiment. I would carry on fixing it up and playing with it to get something that's very solid in terms of the gunplay and hopefully a lack of bugs, even if it's a super simple shooter like this. Because once you do that, you will have learnt a ton and what you can do then is 2 things.
1. You can use the core gameplay elements of it and start a new, better game, which you will put some more thinking into and try and challenge yourself further.
2. Start a shooter from scratch again, this time with all of the knowledge you have it will go a lot smoother and quicker and I can guarantee you'll find better ways to do things you have done before and you'll really see the rewarding progress that it gave you. It will ingrain all of the experience that you've gathered and will make you into overall a much more confident game dev. This applies to pretty much any creative art. I spent years on music and trust me, enjoying it is the most important thing that noone can take away from you.
And in the mean time, it can surely act as a pretty great portfolio. Just don't treat this as a "I made a game and I really want it to succeed" scenario. You have to be aware that in 5 years you might completely get rid of it from your portfolio, because you'll have way more impressive stuff to show off and this will just be a little nugget of what you will be able to do. All the stuff that BigFry said, are most probably all true, but don't take it as a "you suck at this" opinion, because you only been doing it for 2 years for fuck sakes. Let it be your drive and hopefully in a few years you'll be another couple projects down the line and you'll be making a pretty fucking sick tactical shooter that BigFry is gonna be creaming about on his channel.
imo I thought that the fact that your gun gets knocked away when an enemy gets too close is an interesting machinic that could get players to be more aware about their environment just that it needs to be properly conveyed
It would also make swapping to a pistol faster than reloading
For a 16 year old, he’s doing great
we need to remember that a 16 year old did this in 2 years and it still has less bugs than most bethesda games
2 years is a lot especially for a 16 year old he could so better than he did
Yes he is a 16 yo kid, but you still got to be honest with him. Otherwise, how can he grow to be better? He has to get use to harsh criticism because the world isn't going to be so nice with their critiques.
This looks like when you start learning game dev and then you throw this in the trash can amd start on an actual project once you feel you've learned some stuff haha.
I feel game engines nowadays have created this weird situation where there are new devs using the tools without understanding how the game is made in the first place. Often results in people taking controllers and assets from the store and putting them together almost blindly. Granted, these projects visibly look better than my games when I was 16, but I feel theres a lot of things that havent been learnt here because they're trying to run before they can walk
Even though fry was being a bit tough love ish, I think that if he does what fry suggests, a few more years and he will look back on it and be thankful fry told him what to do correctly rather than saying "cool! Post on steam!"
For 2 years, all alone - this is great. It shows progress but the dev needs to be patient with releasing games like this. It is easy to forget a game if he tends to release it in like 2 years.
He could easily fix the bugs shown, alter things according to the feedback and give it a more genuine feeling with better level and sound design.
What this Kid did is awesome and Fry needs credit for the way he expanded his knowledge on the game dev in general like it was amazing to see him giving an honest review instead of trashing the game or just talking about problem he talked about what possibily will be the cause of the bug and what might be a potential fix. As a game dev that's the best kind of review you can get I guess. I am looking forward to see one of the really good game made by this kid in the near future. Good luck to you Snakebite Studios
Wait is this the update for cyberpunk 2077? Looks like a lot of the bugs got fixed
16 year old can develop about as well as the dudes who made Dead Matter. I think he should still with it, he can make something out of this.
me after watching this video: poor kid :( I feel bad for him
Ngl this actually look better than most of the shit I’ve seen. I wouldn’t pay 6 or 7 bucks but maybe like 2 or 3 and I’d play it. Needs some work obviously.
hah, we've seen worse on this channel tbh, if the dev of this game is watching the video and reading these comments, i got a tip for you, and it something so many seem to either dont do enough of or skip entirely: Playtest. You need playtesting BADLY, take it somewhere or gather up some volunteers, and playtest the hell out of it until the game breaks into shards, playtesting is the *single most important* aspect of development, nothing else compares in importance, and i know you said its launching soon, but if you are reading this, put off your release, and playtest this more, and if you dont playest in the earlier stages (and you might not have), you will regret it and be forced to deal with and implement that feedback from people who *paid* for it and are pissed at you and might not give any real feedback, they'll just leave you with "your game sucks", and nobody wants that, you and the game got promise, but theres no way around it, you need more time and i hope you take it
Game doesn’t seem that bad definitely has some potential, just keep working.
The popular game Unturned was released by a 16 yr old at the time
Hey Janky doesn't always mean trash, jank is jank.. this is the way
Lmfao I would never send you my personal project for a review, clearly this guy doesn't speak english or he would understand your reviews are brutal 😆
I do not think he is 16. he told that so you could be easy on him,lmaooo
We should keep an eye on that kid. Maybe he will bring us something big in 5-10 years..
This dude is going places
16?? How long did he work on it?
Even if he worked on it for 3 years, which would make him ¡13! when He started, this doesnt look bad!
Honsetly? I would rather play this than Rainbow six Vegas 2.
This is just a fiddle around with the cry engine, he didn't even bother to change the player model from Nomad to anything at all.
Yep, but he's in the right direction imo. Needs more time and experience
This is unreal engine
It looks like Unreal Engine actually.
Think we can all agree this is trash but the kid has passion for this stuff and that’s what matters. If they continue to create small games like this or continue polishing this up for the next few years and uses it/them in a portfolio when applying for college, they have a good chance of being able to major in computer science
tl;dr Your age shouldn't matter. What you're juggling doesn't matter. One thing matters a lot, though, when it comes to any project such as this: Start Slow and Fail Fast.
*Start Slow* means that if you have an ambitious project in mind but this is your first ever game made, start slow by keeping the expectations low and the product definitions lean. Don't follow the "cool" factor but instead, start with basics mechanics and make sure they are more than decent, and only then you can start prototyping new features and playtest the shit out of every prototype to determine if it works. If it doesn't, even if it's really cool, ditch it. Another tip is to not define your game before it's at least partially done. Don't say "I'm developing an MMO FPS Adventure game with Spiders" but instead make the game with a vision in mind and once it takes shape you can look at the *existing* mechanics and decide how the game is now defined. Is it a first person with guns? FPS. does it have skills and role-playing? add "with RPG elements". It's not a must but I found that any time you define a game first it always constrains you to certain mechanics that won't necessarily work down the line.
*Fail Fast* means that you should bootstrap the game quickly and have a playable prototype or some script or anything that can be a proof of concept then present it to people. Don't be afraid that someone will "steal" your ideas because A) nothing stops them from doing it better than you once it's out and B) you need to get feedback asap.
If the initial feedback is good then keep going. If it's bad? you just experienced your first *failure*. you now have 3 options: 1) decide to give up 2) shift the direction of the project and 3) collect more feedback and possibly find a niche for your game. All 3 are better than ignoring feedback (or worse, avoiding it) and waste 2 years of your life on a project. It's not really "wasted" its just not as efficient as failing after a month and learning the same hard lessons it took you 2 years to learn.
You could attempt to turn the Collisions for the gun off when aiming. This might create some more issues tbh but I'm not sure.
@@andygoog2786 yes that can be fixed using dual camera rendering, its a cheap hack but works. Games like cod and counter strike use it. One camera renders world and another renders only the camera. And then the weapon camera is stacked on top of the world camera. Boom. No more clipping
@@purnabratakar7176 It seems that this game is single player and only in first person mode. If you won't ever see your character with the gun, why have the gun as a object in the world at all? I would think about having the gun only as a GUI element.
@@oliver_twistor yes you are correct. I didn't know we could do that. Thanks for the info tho. Although i have idea how i could achive this in my game.
@@purnabratakar7176 doesn’t dual-rendering significantly reduce framerate though?
@@khakipeach2128 i do believe you are correct.
Kid should not price this game at any price. Not even a penny, you will not be good enough solo to reap in profits. You're 16, focus on improving your skill, improve your coding and design, everything game related. Create a smaller game and sell it when you're 18, for those 2 years you can improve a lot. Everyone is saying "oh he's 16 that's a nice step forward" bro he's charging 6.99 to play this! If it was free you can get more input and feedback, no one will want to purchase this and actually enjoy it at the state its in. Not trying to ruin the kids dreams but if the game was free you would improve so much from feedback
I mean it's more playable than some of the other games he's reviewed
to all the people saying that he is 16 its not bad. Yes I agree, but as soon as you charge even 1 dollar for something; it will be compared to other games, sometimes made by massive teams. As soon as you charge for a product, people will start asking if it the value justifies the cost.
As a kid when I was making games (at the same age as this guy) I made the games free and put donation details (back then the go to was paypal); if they decided they wanted to support me, they could send me a few dollars so i could take my GF out on a date haha it wasn't much but it was something and the idea was never to make money (at that point), it was rather to have fun creating something. i don't think I ever made more than 200 dollars.
the skills picked up got me the job I have now as a software dev/Sys Architect; The skills where the payment (now that i look at it retroactively).
Even if you make a really good game, the chances that you are going to make a shit ton of money is slim.
You guys don’t realize the work put in to do this… I don’t care if he’s 16 or 60, this is amazing and I think he’s doing a great job. Kudos to the creator for sticking with it
damn he really did judge the shit out of him
the problem with using age as an argument is it causes a number of issues for me.
1. its being used as an excuse so that you don't be too hard on his game, but if your charging people any price for something you got to be sure its at least a proper working product and a good one and end of the day he says "its just £6.99" but thats still a lot of money for what essentially is a broken asset game.
2. many kids his age and even younger have made quality games in the past and on their own too. some games might not be as graphical but were still very well thought out and functioning. look at games like unturned for instance. sure its a block type game but has so many functions (at the time i played it years ago) and a good working building and farming mechanic. best of all it was free and he added cosmetics later for people who wanted to give the dude money.
3. this is the most important point. when your striving to become anything harsh criticism is needed. if you treat everyone with kid gloves especially when it comes to a product your trying to sell it dampens what they could actually achieve and makes them believe their product or whatever it is they are striving for is actually passible.
for example when i was learning to code for amnesia mods as a kid i used to do a lot of shortcuts and cheap coding to get away with not doing anything actually complex and thought out. this made the mod very messy and just tedious and caused many scripting issues. if people had told me "hey good job dude for your age its perfectly fine" ( i was 14 at the time) then i would have just carried on and never learnt how to do actual coding for more complex scenarios and bug fixing. however it was because people told me the truth and offered advice that i went back to the drawing board and worked on it again. now i never released that mod because in the end i wasn't as happy with the overhaul work and to be honest my story was lame im not ashamed to admit it haha. but i kept the mod in my files as a representation of what i achieved and a reference for future efforts.
i tried many things over the years but coding just was not as fun for me. i even tried it in RPG maker but sadly there are not many good tutorials out there (at least at the time dunno about now) that covered all the grounds of how these things work. which is a shame because i think it would be very good for young people and up starting game makers to have more options out there other than college or books especially for people like me who learn more from watching and then doing myself so i can understand it. however this mindset did cross over into other hobbies like HEMA (Historical European Marshal Arts aka swordplay). I sucked when i first started and was tired of people treating me with kid gloves. had someone show me how to do it properly and treated me just like he would anyone else and within 2 months i had achieved a lot for someone completely new to the hobby.
anyways long post over. hope this kid keeps trying and for the love of god don't release it in the state its in. take your time, delay it and work on it more. this was clearly what i did when i was younger and inexperienced and just did a rushed job and said "cool this is a game" and boom on the internet. all it will do is upset you when people start asking for refunds and lambast the game with negative reviews which hurts your reputation for future releases. seriously if anything release it as a free game on ichio as a work in progress test demo thing. get some advice from the community and keep working on it.
I think you’re being a little harsh with some of the condescending comments.. you obviously know the background (I.e 16 years old) I’m not sure why you constantly shit on the kid here? For 16 years old this is amazing. Lol. And the ammo count hovering on the weapon is a good idea for a new spin.
I will be honest here. There are way too many games that are better for 6 bucks. And when there is a sale there are even more. Not to mention all the free games, old games and open source projects out there.
I know people want to make a living making games and that is fair, but if you can't look at your game and honestly say this is better than most games at this price range don't sell it. Make it a free project. You will avoid a lot of shit that you shouldn't be dealing with at your age or for being a solo dev. Keep working on it, improving, you might get a following or a job opportunity.
As an example just think of all the dead paid for battleroyalle out there. Who is gonna stop playing fortnite or Apex to pay for a game with no playerbase?
This is pretty impressive, and I think you are doing him a favor of being honest. He just needs to keep working on it, like the rest of the comments say! Keep up the work kid, thats great! I wish I did that with my free time when I was 14-16!
Totally dislike you, the game mechanics are the same as in Insurgency and Tarkov just his has more bugs
How about you go ahead and code a game? Just childish and piggish behaviour just because youre used to play games that are polished by an giant organisation you think this one is trash.
" I dont want to be mean or anything since youre 16" omg i dont even want to start
Someday he will be hopefully sitting there and laughing at your review
I feel that if he made a better map and fixed the gun collision and zombies sounded a little far away when they were I’d pay 7 bucks for it made the map bigger not so open that you could just circle around and never die cause depending on where they spawn it would be very easy to just run in circles make a map that you can get overrun in or that running around has purpose or skill required make corridors and room you can turn yourself around in and mostly make it multiplayer I’m 17 I know it’s a lot
But with all that incentive to play I would no doubt but it once that happened work on getting more things for people to look for or play for more guns maybe even gun upgrades or something to play for a reason to play just shooting zombies get boring after a bit
Honestly the collision bug should be an easy fix, the bullet count on the front of the gun needs to either go or morph into the model itself (something like what apex legends has), the sound might be a hard fix but it is probably necessary. Instead of using one sound for every action maybe have a list of like six or so zombie growls then make it choose a random one but the same sound can’t go twice in a row. Then the only problem is the ui and stages/battlefields. It might be better time wise to go with a retro shooter feel instead of the modern approach, this would help with the aesthetic to the game, increase frames, decrease load times, and give you more time to work on the actual layout of the map.
I'll actively playtest this. I love seeing people try their hand at development and I love the direction this game seems to be taking aesthetically. I decided to purchase. I'm going into Game development myself as a university major so I've always been interested in how others create their games.
This being said, the fundamental design elements are sound, with a fair bit of quality-of-game bugs needing a lot of work. A few years worth of "sanding" it out and getting people to look for bugs can definitely show promise for it. 👍🏻
Apart from fixing the bugs this game really needs better maps, i really dig the concept of having a game where you just shoot hordes of zombies and nothing else, but when you're in an open circle/square with basically nothing else it's really just not worth playing, i'd rather have a knock off cod zombies where getting points opens up the map and allows you to buy weapons and upgrades, at least that is going to keep me engaged more than 5 minutes, right now i don't see this as a game worth publishing, but more like a solid foundation to start making the real game that this could become, honestly if it was me making the game i'd spend allot of time making a bigger map even if the quality isn't all that great, the graphics don't need to be amazing for the gameplay to be fun, i'd be fine with having a map made of cubes that is intricate and fun to move around in while avoiding zombies rather than a big circle with high quality assets on the sides.
I used to make shitty "fps creator" games when i was a kid, and one thing i learned was that the quality of the game does not matter that much if the core concept is enjoyable, but if it isn't, you could make a AAA quality game and it would still suck. Think of it like building a fancy mansion without making proper foundations, the building will just crumble because there is nothing supporting it.
I don’t get like the whole “the environments just assets” thing, like of course they’re just assets, one model can cost upwards of £1000, how would any indie dev who hasn’t received funding who does have rich parents afford custom models?
Menu looks like battlefront 2 😂
I've been working on a game for a bit, and I'm actually 14, I don't wanna be mean but even I made a better reload animation jfnsigbeotuebeogheb
Congrats kid . Amazing you can make a game like this at 16. You have a bright future ✨️ reach for the stars
Dunno if its good to sugar this for the young kid , he need to know the truth that is trash , it will gelp him grow and push him for better productions in future.
being 16 and his first game
i really see hi is traying
many are not even trying,have mutch worst actually garbage games and are prised like 15-20$
I would consider buying if it was polished and had improved maps, not too hard as the core game is bbasically done
hello fry i am 6 years and 3 months 22 days aged and i have created a AAA fps, can you review it ?
You did ok Fry and to developer listen to his problems and fix the issues by going into EA
As a 16 year old myself, im pretty amazed by this.
Here I am watching UA-cam and eating shit and being depressed for no reason.
And then there are kids like this. He worked hard for this and with school and all... Damn bro this is pretty motivating actually. Thank you. I will do something more productive in my life than what I currently am.
Btw thats pretty sick game for a 16 year old. Keep the good shit bro!
Same here
Hmm...definitely does not look similar to a game... *ahem* Star Wars battlefront 2...
I just wanna say the lighting in the firing range was sweet
I would litterly play this rather than cyberpunk 2077 not even kidding
Better than cyberpunk
Dude, you are roasting a 16 year old boy, who made an incredibly well looking and nice + cheap game. Yes it has a few bugs, I get it, but that doesn't give you the right to be so mean. I think the boy did an incredible job.
He isn't going ultra hard on him, and if you want to be successfull you NEED hard criticism. If people just say "Yea yea its good just needs some work" then you wont learn anything
I feel like that should be your catch phrase at the end of these kind of videos: “It’s a game!”
For a 16 year old with 2 years put in, it’s not horrible. It may be pre-made assets, but that’s kind of a problem if I can’t tell if it’s a copy/paste or built from ground-up. Gameplay is everything, specially for a basic idea like this. But a unique look could go miles as well.
It is most definitely premade assets
el unico error que tiene es el de el arma que se bugea, eso se arregla literalmente en menos de una hora, abres el blueprint del personaje, desactivas la colisión del arma y de las manos, lo compilas, lo guardas, sacas una actualización y voilá
Literally can’t talk you are a 30 year old reviewing a 16 year olds game on UA-cam that isn’t finished...16!
He’s giving the kid feedback. How is the kid gonna improve of you say that this game is “Great” and “Totally playable” when it really isn’t. It’s called criticism.
It has potential
The only thing he needs to do is just to fix all the bugs and improve the animations
For the flaws and for him being 16 so young its ok honestly im happy he spent 2 years on it ,better than these triple A devs with more flaws than him and they got experience so id say not bad for 1st time
I thought the title said a game that was being worked on for 16 years 😳