WoW Player's Spirit: There will be a satisfactory ending. It has to be worth it. Wow Player's Mind: Too late. I already don't care. See you in Division 2.
@Ryan W To be fair the difference here is that in classic you don't have to grind reputation just to earn the right to play the character race you wanted to in the beginning. Then level that up to raid. I'm not salty about it I swear.
If they have Nzoth as the last boss of BFA I'll be disappointed. He's been pulling the strings for years and deserves his own expansion, hopefully we'll see the return of the other old gods in their true forms.
Why's that? C'thun wasn't the final boss of vanilla, that was Kel'Thuzad. Yogg-Saron wasn't the final boss of Wotlk, that was Arthas (I don't count Halion, since he was a precursor to Cata). Y'shaarjj, or however you type that, wasn't the final boss of MoP, that was Garrosh. None of the Old Gods have been the last boss of the expansion they were in, and none of them had the entire expansion focused around them. Why should N'zoth be any different?
@@Xylarxcode N'zoth should be different because he is the last remaining old god. They have been building him up for years now unlike any of the other old gods who were just side bars. This much attention to a powerful being only to be an after thought raid would be a dumb move on Blizzard. If you have been following the lore since at least Wrath you will see that N'zoth has been influencing events on Azeroth. He deserves more attention.
Player character: I'll just hand this evil old god artifact over to this morally dubious warchief. What's the worst that could happen? Ji Firepaw: _Am I a joke to you?_ Player: _Yes._ Ji: :(
So I was thinkin' about Il'gynoth's whispers and Ogmots dream journal after doing some stuff on the PTR and it occurs to me: Il'gynoths whispers were super consistently about N'zoth, BUT ONE "Flesh is his gift, he is your true creator" The Curse of Flesh was created by Yogg-Saron right? So, hot take WHAT IF YOGG SARON IS ALSO STILL ACTIVE? Sylvanas was impaled on Saronite, the blood of Yogg-saron. Although there was no indication that Saronite did this sort of thing, what if Sylvanas were somehow an unwitting avatar of Yogg-saron? AND IF THE BOY KING TRULY SERVES AT THE MASTERS TABLE, HE'S BEING CONTROLLED BY N'ZOTH FACTION WAR IS A SHAM THE OLD GODS ARE FIGHTING GET HYPE
Becomes warchief of the Horde. Starts unnecessary conflict. Oppresses other Horde leaders who disagree. Seeks out help from Old God powers when things aren't working. What a monster that Garrosh was! Wait...Sylvanas did literally all of that too on top of plague spreading and raising undead without free will? Well, she has zombie breasts so that's okay.
N’zoth had a better voice in the warbringers video. I wonder what xal’atath is gonna do next? You should make a video about all the old gods words that we’ve heard so far and what has been confirmed and not.
The tone (and voice modulation, if the character has it) of voice acting in WoW cinematics is always different from that in-game for some reason. It's pretty odd.
@@WolfMasterXV To be fair, Darin De Paul is great as villains.. His voicing of Blackhand in WoD was pretty good too, specifically, imo, in the cinematic in Talador.. Besides that, him voicing Valkorion in SWTOR is pretty darned great too.. One of the things I outright loved about KoTFE and KoTET :p his voice acting
Nightborne logic: sure our people might have split the world in half, summoned demons, and hid behind a shield while others fought for survival, but Tyrande was mean!
Right? And Void Elves are okay to join the Alliance? That logic bothered me, Nightborne should've been like pandaren, one siding with Liadren and the other siding with Alleria. Void elves as cool as they are shouldn't exist at all besides being a personal faction of soldiers lead by Alleria, but not playable. But that's just me.
@@roguepoison Void Elves were basically an excuse for Blizz to give Blood/High elves models to the Alliance, since they had been crying about wanting it since TBC.
"the boy king serving at the master's table" Its interesting listening to those Il'gynoth whispers now we're in Shadowlands. The five keys you'd assume are the sigils perhaps now. The old gods definitely knew SL was coming anyway. Some interesting lore stuff on its way you'd hope!
"The light has struck a bargain with the enemy of all"....one of my favourite twisting whispers from N'Zoth at Cruicible of Storms. Implies interesting lore twists, what do you guys think about it?
"receive my gift" then we wake up with a bulky headband with an eye on he made in arts and crafts class .it would be cool if those who accept him got say extra eyes option or something in the barbershop
''Six seats at the high table. Six mouths that hunger. One will consume all others.'' I think this six people are the current leaders of the Horde which represent 6 other main Horde races at the table. This excludes Forsaken since Sylvanas is one of them and is their ''master'' If true, by the end of the expansion it may happen the whole ''one will consume all others'' meaning Sylvanas will kill all other leaders, possibly with Xal'atath. Saurfang and Baine are already basically having ropes around their necks, and Lor'themar, Gallywix, Ji Firepaw, and now Talanji as the final leader since trolls have been leaderless since Vol'Jin died so she's pretty much now the leader of all trolls in the Horde not just Zandalari, they could not be far behind. This makes ''six sit at masters table'' as it was told in one of the prophecies. All of this makes the most sense to me and considering everything Sylvanas has been doing might very well turn the rest four leaders against her to follow Saurfang and Baine. Im rather sure something along those lines is likely to happen
i still think that the wholle Xalathat thing is tied to Alleria... SHe is part of the Alliance. She is a VOID elf. And she is bordering on servitude toward the void... or becoming something more than just a void elf. Maybe with thousands of years of void energy coursing thru her. SHe could be a god.. She is part of the alliance now. "Serving" the boy king. Making him serve at the masters table. Would be easy for someone of the void to manipulate someone like him.. Young.. Pure.. Infatuated with light. And i have a feeling that because of things going.. The reason why Sylvanas has that dagger... Is that she is going to use it to seal Alleria into it. Mirroring the story of Legacy of Kain Soul Reaver. Which in turn, creates a vengefull void lord, Alleria into Xalathat over thousands of years of use. And that vengefull creature... is going to be Outside fate. And doing things that will change Azeroth in ways that nobody could see. I mean we just freed a creature that was inside the dagger... that was in it for a reason. There has to be a reason why she was in there.... Other than just... Stuff. Sylvanas uses it against a void engulfed Alleria. Seals her inside the blade. The blade is hidden.. gets stolen. Is sent thru thousands of years in the past. Since Old Gods can manipulate time... somehow. Rhonin, red dragon and Rexar going back 10,000 years tot the war of the ancient is a reason why this is plausible.. ANd over those thousands of years.. SO much sacrificing. Blood. Death. Madness and anger over being sealed.. Warped and erased what Alleria was.. And she becomes that thing in the dagger. And then gets freed in Bfa. Going Full circle. Xalathat is free... But Alleria is trapped.. Xalathat is free to do whatever it wants.. Being outside of fate. And able to do some serious damage that nobody is able to see. Especialy not the black dragonflight. Like the attack on Chromia. ANd maybe other things as well.
I really hope they do more than just “Literal Garrosh 2.0” with Sylvanas. She’s already way down that path: using old god powers to achieve goals, making use of the underground facility, casting out other horde leaders... I sincerely hope that there’s some sort of plot twist here that we’re not seeing.
Going by what is going on so far it appears Sylvannas is aware of something we are not privy to. The plot of the story line appears to be heavily Night Elf centric along with the Naga (Night Elf decedents) playing their part. A story twist could be coming. But i have no idea what is going on.
I can't wait to hear what you think about the datamined dialogue concerning Nazjatar. Now THAT'S where the really juicy stuff is at (and the "war" campaign).
N'zoth must be talking of the cosmic powers (six in the table) since it's so clear that G'huun isn't even an old god but an avatar that reflects them. Sylvanas is waging war against LIFE therefore she is the champion of death. Order was the efforts against Burning Legion (Disorder) and you (the hero) are the champion of light and N'zoth is the champion of the Void. "Six seats at the high table. Six mouths that hunger. One will consume all others." The last contents are the Light and the Void (Sylvanas will surely be dealt really soon therefore Life and Death aren't a thing [unless you think of it as an alliance between life and light and death and void which is kinda whatever situation) so there will be the one mouth to consume all others. Such clear symbolism.
@ 2:42 ordered Azeroth looks like a baby in a womb with mount hyjal as its head covered by its arms, pandaria as its back, and the northern tip of the eastern kingdoms looking like its feet. This would also make the well its umbilical chord and northrend its placental sac.
These guys are basically Lovecraft cosmic horrors. I thought the whole point was that they were so far beyond us, we didn't even register to them, and just the knowledge of their existence was enough to destroy us all.
Hey guys I have a small question. We didn't really kill the other old gods right? yog-sarron and c'thuun. we just re imprisoned them right? or did we actually manage to take them down once and for all?
Oh man it would be cool if the final battle against the banshee queen was like this insane trap raid and like mejatorque kept trying to use this fail safe port which just kept teleporting the raid and the enemies into the middle of major alliance cities.
Blade is capable of containing an old god. N'Zoth is trapped in a prison. Perhaps traveling within the blade would allow N'Zoth to slip out of his prison. :)
Somewhere somehow we screwed up the timeline, please take us back to Mists of Pandaria I promise we'll do better, I'll do every daily just please give us a second chance
I love your videos, but some times I feel you skip over important plot points. You mention the "well of eternity drastically effected the land and a race called the night elves". You should have mentioned that Trolls ruled most of Azeroth after the fall of the Old Gods, and that some of these Trolls lived around the Well of Eternity. The well eventually evolved those Trolls in close proximity to the well into the Night Elf race. Also I think the only Old God who corrupted Death Wing, and made him create the Dragon Soul was Nzoth. I haven't seen anything to say that Yogg Saron and Cthunn had anything to do with the plan and may have been inactive until the sundering damaged their prisons.
10:35 here she call names of 3 dead old gods and it suppose to one left alive, why didnt she just said N'Zoth? i think blizzard going to create more old gods in future, like idk there was one more old god who rule them all strongets etc i wont be surprised.
@@Nellyson96 True although it seemed like her self preservation was always her top priority over her people. Although she could not have known, she would have been able to find worshipers on the remaining continents (maybe just Kalimdor) again no problem.
nobbel have u done a lore video on the start of wow to now in bfa? I'm only asking cause i just started playing in legion and i love the story lines and would like to know what happened before legion and everything in-between lol.
I still wonder why Old Gods wanted to bring Sargeras to Azeroth. It made more sense when they were described as more powerful than Titans but now that we know that Sargeras can split planets with ease, it sounds the most stupid plan ever. As we see in current time, they could have eventually weakened their prisons to the point that they could have escaped if not for outside interference. If they spent their efforts on hiding Azeroth from Legion and hindering demons should they find the planet, it's inhabitants would have had less reason to get stronger. Elves wouldn't have been nearly as strong and prepared if Burning Legion never found out about the planet and Deathwing and possibly even Aszhara could have been corrupted with promises of limitless power. The planet would have been theirs but instead they wanted demons to cause enough destruction so that they could escape sooner.
Why should I bring the dagger to Sylvanas? I have betrayed the Light too many times this expansion by fighting for the Lich Queen. Even my Forsaken warlock would rather keep the dagger himself. I hope this is N'zoth manipulating the Horde characters, because only Sylvanas' most loyal supporters would bring her such weapon willingly, and that's only a fraction of the Horde players. N'zoth will most likely try to use Sylvanas as a pawn. She will try to use the dagger against the Alliance, but it will actually empower N'zoth. I still don't buy Anduin playing into their hands. If that was the case, the Alliance players would have taken the dagger. Besides, remember that the whispers of the Void are only half true.
Actually, Nzod was first seen in the Maelstrom during Cata. When you look up, you could see him in the sky and it made sense. If people remember the pictures and stuff about that. Blizzard surely are sneaky, to add him so long ago and in a place that nobody noticed lol. Great video anyways, love it to bits :) Anything old god related is 10/10 for me
Wait, dont he say the circle of stars made flesh? Does that mean exactly what i just said about cata and the maelstrom sky made out of stars that look like octopus? :D
I always assumed the old gods prisons to be giant labyrinthine tombs to be under the oceans. Looks almost like N’Zoth could just swim over the one in the Warbringer trailer. Not how I envisioned it. 😉
So at the beginning of B of A / end of Legion there were six Horde Races Orc, Tauran, Undead, Troll, Blood elves, Goblins sitting at the Warchief's table. yes they are all allies but each faction has a their own core values and agenda. also the Undead are the only race capable of "consuming" the other races and converting them.
When will the Alliance be the bad guys? I feel for the Horde in that this is the second time a leader had apperently fallen to or is trying to exploit the powers of the Old Gods. And we already know how that is going to end.
the only female character who has died twice was the Sylvanas, it would make sense to be the one he talks about. even though she already died 3 times, but only two as undead and being revived by the valks.
"The circle of stars made flesh". No comment about this? I think it's quite important. are the heroes of Azeroth the circle of stars now as N'zoth seems to be referring to us?
"drown yourself in the circle of stars" "we are the circle of stars made flesh." _Well okay_ * contorts self to stick head up his own ass and starts suffocating *
I am almost hesitant to do this quest because i do not know i'll accidentally join the old gods side some shit like that because of this unknown factor. I am not comfortable with that if i can't stop it or undo it. I fucking hate feeling used in games. Because i would simply Say no if i had the option from the get go. I care nothing for some talking knife only to be used in anything i had no way of knowing. When i played in skyrim and this lady asked me to join their cult of cannibals, i would have no part of it so i snapped her neck and the quest went away.
I think Xal'atath has an axe to grind against the old gods who put her in that dagger. The whisper from the dagger: "We may face some of my brethren in this conflict... a prospect that delights me. Their power will be mine! They will pay for what was done to me long ago." (in Orgrimmar)
Hey Nobbel, longtime fan, I have a question: was the well of eternity basicly azerite? Since the blood of Azeroth is Azerite, or does it now crystalize because of Sargeras' corruption?
There's one world quest that is called something like "naga attack!" in all the different zones on both continents where you fight back some invading naga forces. If you pull a bunch of them and kill them, in the loot box there should be at least 2 of the quest item that starts the questchain. You must kill nagas for that particular world quest. If you're doing other world quests and happen to come across some nagas I don't think killing them will reward you the item though.
Don't know if it has been said, but "at the hour of her 3th death, she usser in our coming" could it be Xal'atath? 1st death when she became the blade. 2nd death when her powers was drained for Sargaras blade. 3th death incoming?
A void elf leaves the blade, a void elf will enter the blade. Alleria will take Xal'atath's place, but before she will absorb the one that is bound beneath the waves, it is written in the bible.
Yeah 'turning the world into perfection' also meant scouring it from those she did not think were worthy, most of them. She cut most of them off from the wells power to focus it on summoning sargeras. She didn't really care what happened to her people.
The 6 seats are IMO: Y'shaarj N'zoth C'thun Yogg'saron Xal'athath and Elune. Furthermore, Sylvanas being given the blade doesn't mean she will keep it. I think Anduin is going to take it from her and get corrupted.
Anduin, Magni, Baine, Malfurion/Tyrande, Vol'jin and the one who will consume all others is Sylvanas. They all want to be in some sort of power for one reason or another be it peace, vengeance, war etc.
@@CIAinTaiwanAndUkraine yeah I know that, but shouldn't Dalaran have like... a king/queen to be considered a kingdom? Instead they are lead by the council. In the chronicles I found out that they ***had*** magocrat lords, which kinda implies that the title was hereditary, but seeing that the council has members that were never part of the royalty or even were part of the kirin tor until recently it seems to me that being a lord is no longer a thing in Dalaran
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"And if any shadowy weapons ask you to do favors for dem in de future... I suggest you decline." Next time remember Talanji's wise words.
Nah, the best stories are made with sentient evil weapons :3
@@Biouke True. I mean, have you SEEN the Craven edge arc from Critical Role?
@@Drocksas Nope, but now I have to check that out ;)
As soon as Blizzard implements that choise.
_But she gave me artifact power._
In german Xal'atath calls you "mein Herz" when you part ways. Which freely translates to "My love". Xal'atath romance confirmed bois!
Endlich!
Wir kämpfen für xal'atah?? Xd
*Sexy time with a Blade*
@Dethglock
Yeah but how tf do you get to the idea that xalatath might be a nazi from a comment saying she calls you her love
@Dethglock
And germans are nazis, yes?
Blizzard staff: we need an internal conflict
Blizzard: make sylvanas worse
Staff: yea but why
Blizzard: *snorts a line of coke* N’ZOTH!!
Blizzard: its not another Garrosh, we promise!
WOW Players: bullshit!
WoW Player's Spirit: There will be a satisfactory ending. It has to be worth it.
Wow Player's Mind: Too late. I already don't care. See you in Division 2.
@Ryan W lol true.
@Ryan W That's basically the wow community. Or internet as a whole.
@Ryan W To be fair the difference here is that in classic you don't have to grind reputation just to earn the right to play the character race you wanted to in the beginning. Then level that up to raid.
I'm not salty about it I swear.
"We will face some of my brothers in this concflict. Their power will be mine! They will pay for what was done to me long ago." - Xal'atath.
If they have Nzoth as the last boss of BFA I'll be disappointed. He's been pulling the strings for years and deserves his own expansion, hopefully we'll see the return of the other old gods in their true forms.
It would be consistent with how they handle the Old Gods, since old gods have been a minor factor in the expansions they've appeared in.
Why's that? C'thun wasn't the final boss of vanilla, that was Kel'Thuzad. Yogg-Saron wasn't the final boss of Wotlk, that was Arthas (I don't count Halion, since he was a precursor to Cata). Y'shaarjj, or however you type that, wasn't the final boss of MoP, that was Garrosh. None of the Old Gods have been the last boss of the expansion they were in, and none of them had the entire expansion focused around them. Why should N'zoth be any different?
@@Xylarxcode N'zoth should be different because he is the last remaining old god. They have been building him up for years now unlike any of the other old gods who were just side bars.
This much attention to a powerful being only to be an after thought raid would be a dumb move on Blizzard. If you have been following the lore since at least Wrath you will see that N'zoth has been influencing events on Azeroth. He deserves more attention.
Maybe letting only one of his servants killed. anduin, magni or some1with a twist at the end.
Just remember, *NO OLD GODS IN BFA :)*
N'Zoth places a tentacle on my Blood elf Priest.
Yeah I know exactly where this is going.
but do u like it tho?
Not now tho, maybe in 6 months when all the RP people get unbanned.
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They do not die; they do not live. They are outside the cycle.
Player character: I'll just hand this evil old god artifact over to this morally dubious warchief. What's the worst that could happen?
Ji Firepaw: _Am I a joke to you?_
Player: _Yes._
Ji: :(
So I was thinkin' about Il'gynoth's whispers and Ogmots dream journal after doing some stuff on the PTR and it occurs to me:
Il'gynoths whispers were super consistently about N'zoth, BUT ONE
"Flesh is his gift, he is your true creator"
The Curse of Flesh was created by Yogg-Saron right? So, hot take WHAT IF YOGG SARON IS ALSO STILL ACTIVE?
Sylvanas was impaled on Saronite, the blood of Yogg-saron. Although there was no indication that Saronite did this sort of thing, what if Sylvanas were somehow an unwitting avatar of Yogg-saron?
AND IF THE BOY KING TRULY SERVES AT THE MASTERS TABLE, HE'S BEING CONTROLLED BY N'ZOTH
FACTION WAR IS A SHAM
THE OLD GODS ARE FIGHTING
GET HYPE
that'd actually be interesting, if we had to fight both sylvanas and anduin at then end
If _Legion_ showed me anything, it is that Yogg Saron is still out there... :)
Bruh is a fucking game things don’t exist they change lines as they please
If all of WoW’s faction conflict was an old god Psyop, I wouldn’t even be upset, tbh.
Becomes warchief of the Horde.
Starts unnecessary conflict.
Oppresses other Horde leaders who disagree.
Seeks out help from Old God powers when things aren't working.
What a monster that Garrosh was! Wait...Sylvanas did literally all of that too on top of plague spreading and raising undead without free will? Well, she has zombie breasts so that's okay.
i wanna upvote this 69 times
In before next expansion is about traveling back in time to alternate timeline Quel'thalas to stop Sylvanas from invading with high elf army.
Well, Sylvanas is a Deathrattle minion and N'zoth ressurects Deathrattle minions so both of them are really good pals.
blizzard said sylvanas wouldn't be garrosh 2.0 FAIL.
N’zoth had a better voice in the warbringers video.
I wonder what xal’atath is gonna do next?
You should make a video about all the old gods words that we’ve heard so far and what has been confirmed and not.
Its the same person. Darin De Paul. He does N'zoth good
I prefer the in-game voice.
The tone (and voice modulation, if the character has it) of voice acting in WoW cinematics is always different from that in-game for some reason. It's pretty odd.
@@WolfMasterXV To be fair, Darin De Paul is great as villains.. His voicing of Blackhand in WoD was pretty good too, specifically, imo, in the cinematic in Talador..
Besides that, him voicing Valkorion in SWTOR is pretty darned great too.. One of the things I outright loved about KoTFE and KoTET :p his voice acting
@@Scarface39212 totally agree with you there.
Nightborne logic: sure our people might have split the world in half, summoned demons, and hid behind a shield while others fought for survival, but Tyrande was mean!
Right? And Void Elves are okay to join the Alliance?
That logic bothered me, Nightborne should've been like pandaren, one siding with Liadren and the other siding with Alleria. Void elves as cool as they are shouldn't exist at all besides being a personal faction of soldiers lead by Alleria, but not playable. But that's just me.
I strongly agree with both of you.
@@roguepoison Void Elves were basically an excuse for Blizz to give Blood/High elves models to the Alliance, since they had been crying about wanting it since TBC.
@@SemperVII oh I know, but it doesn't make them any less shoehorned into the game just for Alliance to have the belf models.
TYRANDE IS ANNOYING AF
28:10 I literally thought Anduin would say "We are so screwed." :D
Game of thrones Episode 2 got leaked? NAH, I NEED SOME NOBBEL IN MY DAILY LIFE
GOT can wait..Nobbel comes first :P
"the boy king serving at the master's table" Its interesting listening to those Il'gynoth whispers now we're in Shadowlands. The five keys you'd assume are the sigils perhaps now. The old gods definitely knew SL was coming anyway. Some interesting lore stuff on its way you'd hope!
I really hope it's not-
"Blizzard: Well, it's not MoP because she's waging war on LIFE...not the Alliance...yeah...Life itself."
"The light has struck a bargain with the enemy of all"....one of my favourite twisting whispers from N'Zoth at Cruicible of Storms. Implies interesting lore twists, what do you guys think about it?
so excited to see how they pull off the black empire stuff!
Will we team up with N'Zoth against Aliance and Horde?
"receive my gift" then we wake up with a bulky headband with an eye on he made in arts and crafts class .it would be cool if those who accept him got say extra eyes option or something in the barbershop
11:24, I think you mean Al'Akir in Uldum
ghun dies and suddenly
WINDS, OBEY MY COMMAND
Nobbel can you show us all the important NPC's that have N'zoths eyes on them? I'm curious who serves him, and if it's direct or indirect servitude.
I think the Blade of the Black Empire will be Sylvanas's Frostmourn.
When you don't have the headset on for a minute and really think it was Nobbel who screamed "I AM A GOD!!".... While i did a silent nod.
''Six seats at the high table. Six mouths that hunger. One will consume all others.'' I think this six people are the current leaders of the Horde which represent 6 other main Horde races at the table. This excludes Forsaken since Sylvanas is one of them and is their ''master'' If true, by the end of the expansion it may happen the whole ''one will consume all others'' meaning Sylvanas will kill all other leaders, possibly with Xal'atath. Saurfang and Baine are already basically having ropes around their necks, and Lor'themar, Gallywix, Ji Firepaw, and now Talanji as the final leader since trolls have been leaderless since Vol'Jin died so she's pretty much now the leader of all trolls in the Horde not just Zandalari, they could not be far behind. This makes ''six sit at masters table'' as it was told in one of the prophecies. All of this makes the most sense to me and considering everything Sylvanas has been doing might very well turn the rest four leaders against her to follow Saurfang and Baine. Im rather sure something along those lines is likely to happen
26:15 to find him drown yourselves in the circle of stars.
I'm surprised nobody thought of that
????
@@jamieweir645 Illygnoth whispers mention a circle of stars. Now N'zoth is mentioning it
Looks like it's time for the Alliance to start a crusade.
LUX VULT! Purge the green-skins! Yrell did nothing wrong!
A crusade full of zealots and fanatics, associated with red that will cleanse the undead warchief. Uhmmm.. .
@@SalteTz
Odd, somehow I thought I have seem something similar already...
@@Rakshiir the we will just change the color to blue and be associated with the void. Big difference ;")
By the Light purge the Heretics
These videos > stream highlights imho. Love your work
i still think that the wholle Xalathat thing is tied to Alleria... SHe is part of the Alliance. She is a VOID elf. And she is bordering on servitude toward the void... or becoming something more than just a void elf. Maybe with thousands of years of void energy coursing thru her. SHe could be a god.. She is part of the alliance now. "Serving" the boy king. Making him serve at the masters table. Would be easy for someone of the void to manipulate someone like him.. Young.. Pure.. Infatuated with light. And i have a feeling that because of things going.. The reason why Sylvanas has that dagger... Is that she is going to use it to seal Alleria into it. Mirroring the story of Legacy of Kain Soul Reaver. Which in turn, creates a vengefull void lord, Alleria into Xalathat over thousands of years of use. And that vengefull creature... is going to be Outside fate. And doing things that will change Azeroth in ways that nobody could see. I mean we just freed a creature that was inside the dagger... that was in it for a reason. There has to be a reason why she was in there.... Other than just... Stuff. Sylvanas uses it against a void engulfed Alleria. Seals her inside the blade. The blade is hidden.. gets stolen. Is sent thru thousands of years in the past. Since Old Gods can manipulate time... somehow. Rhonin, red dragon and Rexar going back 10,000 years tot the war of the ancient is a reason why this is plausible.. ANd over those thousands of years.. SO much sacrificing. Blood. Death. Madness and anger over being sealed.. Warped and erased what Alleria was.. And she becomes that thing in the dagger. And then gets freed in Bfa. Going Full circle. Xalathat is free... But Alleria is trapped.. Xalathat is free to do whatever it wants.. Being outside of fate. And able to do some serious damage that nobody is able to see. Especialy not the black dragonflight. Like the attack on Chromia. ANd maybe other things as well.
I like this
This theory feels sensible to me.. Defos "hope" this is how it goes, in a sense :p would be cool to see
I really hope they do more than just “Literal Garrosh 2.0” with Sylvanas. She’s already way down that path: using old god powers to achieve goals, making use of the underground facility, casting out other horde leaders... I sincerely hope that there’s some sort of plot twist here that we’re not seeing.
No amount of twsts can salvage her shitty character.
Idk 5 yesrs later and she's absolutely badass still @@MrVlad12340
Going by what is going on so far it appears Sylvannas is aware of something we are not privy to. The plot of the story line appears to be heavily Night Elf centric along with the Naga (Night Elf decedents) playing their part. A story twist could be coming. But i have no idea what is going on.
Blizzard: We're not doing Garrosh 2.0
Also Blizzard: *Does Garrosh 2.0*
His devoted outnumber the sands... THE STARS!
WE SPAN THE UNIVERSE
I love being redpilled by Nzoth. The story telling is too good for the state of the game :(
I can't wait to hear what you think about the datamined dialogue concerning Nazjatar.
Now THAT'S where the really juicy stuff is at (and the "war" campaign).
According to what N´zoth says about 6 seats at the table. What about the Pantheon?
Fun fact: the first time how we know how n'zoth looks is in Hearthstone's expansion whispers of the old gods
I feel like "her third death will usher in our coming" is still yet to be realized in 2021. The Old Gods are not done!
So in a way... the Well of Eternity was actually an Azerite Lake. 🤔😳
I've gotten N'zoth's whispers on characters that haven't done the quest and I had the eye removed off the one character that did it.
I'll miss you Knifu! I should have used you more in Legion (but I mostly play Holy).
what's with the subtitles? why do they scurry so fast from 7:00? =/
old and unrelated question... why is the mouth of a lion beside the throne in Stormwind have his mouth open and all others are all closed?
Wanted to point out at 2:36 the map has a face image on the map buttom right can u see it. It's a druid form.
N'zoth must be talking of the cosmic powers (six in the table) since it's so clear that G'huun isn't even an old god but an avatar that reflects them. Sylvanas is waging war against LIFE therefore she is the champion of death. Order was the efforts against Burning Legion (Disorder) and you (the hero) are the champion of light and N'zoth is the champion of the Void.
"Six seats at the high table. Six mouths that hunger. One will consume all others."
The last contents are the Light and the Void (Sylvanas will surely be dealt really soon therefore Life and Death aren't a thing [unless you think of it as an alliance between life and light and death and void which is kinda whatever situation) so there will be the one mouth to consume all others. Such clear symbolism.
@ 2:42 ordered Azeroth looks like a baby in a womb with mount hyjal as its head covered by its arms, pandaria as its back, and the northern tip of the eastern kingdoms looking like its feet. This would also make the well its umbilical chord and northrend its placental sac.
Now that we know about Shadow Lands and the drought of souls to everyone, but the Maul, I am thinking they are the 6 seats.
These guys are basically Lovecraft cosmic horrors. I thought the whole point was that they were so far beyond us, we didn't even register to them, and just the knowledge of their existence was enough to destroy us all.
Hey guys I have a small question. We didn't really kill the other old gods right? yog-sarron and c'thuun. we just re imprisoned them right? or did we actually manage to take them down once and for all?
Oh man it would be cool if the final battle against the banshee queen was like this insane trap raid and like mejatorque kept trying to use this fail safe port which just kept teleporting the raid and the enemies into the middle of major alliance cities.
@Nobbel87 and we have now confirmed that n'zoth is actually the strongest old god and doesn't use void, he uses shadow
I'll always eat up any and all Old God content.
Blade is capable of containing an old god. N'Zoth is trapped in a prison.
Perhaps traveling within the blade would allow N'Zoth to slip out of his prison. :)
Wonder what N'zoth will look like once we face him.
Can you make a updated version of sylvanas story please
Nice videos! Keep on :)
Why Vashj left Azshara for Illidan? Not known?
Somewhere somehow we screwed up the timeline, please take us back to Mists of Pandaria I promise we'll do better, I'll do every daily just please give us a second chance
Please do not MoP was BFA 1.0. Nothing but bad story, shitty class changes, rep grinds and timegating. Funny how you cry for what you hate.
Fuck MoP
@@JohnDoe-vn1we did we play the same game? MoP is considered one of the best Expansions in WoW's history! but i guess opions differ
@@JohnDoe-vn1we MoP was awesome. I'm sorry you hated it, but it was amazing for a lot of players mate.
I remember people hating MoP like it was yesterday
it was vindicated by history ultimately. It tends to be 4th after TBC, Wrath, and Vanilla.
I love your videos, but some times I feel you skip over important plot points.
You mention the "well of eternity drastically effected the land and a race called the night elves". You should have mentioned that Trolls ruled most of Azeroth after the fall of the Old Gods, and that some of these Trolls lived around the Well of Eternity. The well eventually evolved those Trolls in close proximity to the well into the Night Elf race.
Also I think the only Old God who corrupted Death Wing, and made him create the Dragon Soul was Nzoth. I haven't seen anything to say that Yogg Saron and Cthunn had anything to do with the plan and may have been inactive until the sundering damaged their prisons.
hey Nobbel87 could it be possible for the dagger to be used on the Jailer ? the lord of death? and sylvanas wields it? Empowering her even more?
10:35 here she call names of 3 dead old gods and it suppose to one left alive, why didnt she just said N'Zoth? i think blizzard going to create more old gods in future, like idk there was one more old god who rule them all strongets etc i wont be surprised.
Apparently we talk in one sentences.
Which convey an action.
That leads to another.
Anon green text is leaking
I like queen aszhara but for such a powerful mage, why didn't she just teleport herself up above the water?
pretty sure you need to be able to speak to cast magic.. which is really hard to do if your drowning
Vanity
She is nothing without her sense of "Queen"ness
Her bane
@@Nellyson96 True although it seemed like her self preservation was always her top priority over her people. Although she could not have known, she would have been able to find worshipers on the remaining continents (maybe just Kalimdor) again no problem.
nobbel have u done a lore video on the start of wow to now in bfa? I'm only asking cause i just started playing in legion and i love the story lines and would like to know what happened before legion and everything in-between lol.
I still wonder why Old Gods wanted to bring Sargeras to Azeroth. It made more sense when they were described as more powerful than Titans but now that we know that Sargeras can split planets with ease, it sounds the most stupid plan ever. As we see in current time, they could have eventually weakened their prisons to the point that they could have escaped if not for outside interference. If they spent their efforts on hiding Azeroth from Legion and hindering demons should they find the planet, it's inhabitants would have had less reason to get stronger. Elves wouldn't have been nearly as strong and prepared if Burning Legion never found out about the planet and Deathwing and possibly even Aszhara could have been corrupted with promises of limitless power. The planet would have been theirs but instead they wanted demons to cause enough destruction so that they could escape sooner.
Why should I bring the dagger to Sylvanas? I have betrayed the Light too many times this expansion by fighting for the Lich Queen. Even my Forsaken warlock would rather keep the dagger himself. I hope this is N'zoth manipulating the Horde characters, because only Sylvanas' most loyal supporters would bring her such weapon willingly, and that's only a fraction of the Horde players. N'zoth will most likely try to use Sylvanas as a pawn. She will try to use the dagger against the Alliance, but it will actually empower N'zoth. I still don't buy Anduin playing into their hands. If that was the case, the Alliance players would have taken the dagger. Besides, remember that the whispers of the Void are only half true.
Actually, Nzod was first seen in the Maelstrom during Cata. When you look up, you could see him in the sky and it made sense. If people remember the pictures and stuff about that. Blizzard surely are sneaky, to add him so long ago and in a place that nobody noticed lol.
Great video anyways, love it to bits :) Anything old god related is 10/10 for me
Wait, dont he say the circle of stars made flesh? Does that mean exactly what i just said about cata and the maelstrom sky made out of stars that look like octopus? :D
Sorry to burst that bubble, but the circle of stars is where Azshara's throne is at (and the last titan facility keeping N'zoth bound).
Ow? Where's N"zoth at or do you mean that circlethingy in the skybox? and thank you so much!
@@Nobbel87 Yep yep, thats the one
I always assumed the old gods prisons to be giant labyrinthine tombs to be under the oceans. Looks almost like N’Zoth could just swim over the one in the Warbringer trailer. Not how I envisioned it. 😉
So at the beginning of B of A / end of Legion there were six Horde Races Orc, Tauran, Undead, Troll, Blood elves, Goblins sitting at the Warchief's table. yes they are all allies but each faction has a their own core values and agenda. also the Undead are the only race capable of "consuming" the other races and converting them.
how do i start this whole questline? i must have completely missed it whilst playing through bfa.
At the hour of her 3rd death... Sylvanas died twice right ?
one to arthas and once during the gilnean questline to godfrey
When will the Alliance be the bad guys? I feel for the Horde in that this is the second time a leader had apperently fallen to or is trying to exploit the powers of the Old Gods. And we already know how that is going to end.
“She’s not the last, but she’s not the first. Drown her and you will see” -N’Zoth
Anyone have any speculation on this line?
#DontMakeXalatathAboss
We must not hurt the knaifu
the only female character who has died twice was the Sylvanas, it would make sense to be the one he talks about. even though she already died 3 times, but only two as undead and being revived by the valks.
Thrice, with Godfrey assassinating her
"The circle of stars made flesh". No comment about this? I think it's quite important. are the heroes of Azeroth the circle of stars now as N'zoth seems to be referring to us?
"drown yourself in the circle of stars" "we are the circle of stars made flesh." _Well okay_ * contorts self to stick head up his own ass and starts suffocating *
For Xal's race she's actually a void Elf because her hair color and skin tone are just same ones found on a female Void Elf player.
It would be funny if 'that's not just a costume' and Xal is the mommy of all modern elves.
Void elf druid that take on the forms of Naga! Just an idea.
*looks at my shadow priest friends* your not gonna stab me in the back right?
Knifu for laifu
Probably better watch out for all those void elves too, if you're Alliance
*Totally not*
Nice water strider ya got there Nobbel. Be a shame if something... happened... to it.
You mean that he gets free water booties? Oh the horror!
I am almost hesitant to do this quest because i do not know i'll accidentally join the old gods side some shit like that because of this unknown factor. I am not comfortable with that if i can't stop it or undo it. I fucking hate feeling used in games. Because i would simply Say no if i had the option from the get go. I care nothing for some talking knife only to be used in anything i had no way of knowing.
When i played in skyrim and this lady asked me to join their cult of cannibals, i would have no part of it so i snapped her neck and the quest went away.
can't wait to see how's the expansion ending.
I think Xal'atath has an axe to grind against the old gods who put her in that dagger. The whisper from the dagger:
"We may face some of my brethren in this conflict... a prospect that delights me. Their power will be mine! They will pay for what was done to me long ago." (in Orgrimmar)
What if you don't want to deliver Xal'atath to Sylvanas and keep it to yourself? Would it have an impact?
Hey Nobbel, longtime fan, I have a question: was the well of eternity basicly azerite? Since the blood of Azeroth is Azerite, or does it now crystalize because of Sargeras' corruption?
When azeroth is the Titan of Chaos then i think its normal that azerite now Crystalized comes Out as light and Order(arcane) Crystal's
How do you get the questline? I've been killing Naga during dailies and nothing :(
There's one world quest that is called something like "naga attack!" in all the different zones on both continents where you fight back some invading naga forces. If you pull a bunch of them and kill them, in the loot box there should be at least 2 of the quest item that starts the questchain. You must kill nagas for that particular world quest. If you're doing other world quests and happen to come across some nagas I don't think killing them will reward you the item though.
10:32. ROFL I wanna see this scene played in WOW.
Don't know if it has been said, but "at the hour of her 3th death, she usser in our coming" could it be Xal'atath? 1st death when she became the blade. 2nd death when her powers was drained for Sargaras blade. 3th death incoming?
It's azshara, first death was when she drowned, second was when her free will died, aka serving nzoth, third is when we kill her in 8.2
Al'Akir in Uldir? Whot? I didnt raid much mythic but pretty sure he was never there?
Azshara _did_ show us the way... x)
isnt yogg'saron still alive though?
A void elf leaves the blade, a void elf will enter the blade. Alleria will take Xal'atath's place, but before she will absorb the one that is bound beneath the waves, it is written in the bible.
This is so useful still
Where do you even find the place to start that quest line?
Look for a world quest called naga attack or invasion...something like that. Kill a naga there and the q item drops
I’m confused. They say she betrayed her people, by joining the legion or nzoth?
Yeah 'turning the world into perfection' also meant scouring it from those she did not think were worthy, most of them. She cut most of them off from the wells power to focus it on summoning sargeras. She didn't really care what happened to her people.
The 6 seats are IMO: Y'shaarj N'zoth C'thun Yogg'saron Xal'athath and Elune. Furthermore, Sylvanas being given the blade doesn't mean she will keep it. I think Anduin is going to take it from her and get corrupted.
Anduin, Magni, Baine, Malfurion/Tyrande, Vol'jin and the one who will consume all others is Sylvanas. They all want to be in some sort of power for one reason or another be it peace, vengeance, war etc.
@@silverspear21 That's 7.
I want to keep the gift of N'zoth in case of future lore shenanigans but goddammit i want to see my helmet.
Six seats at the high table. Six mouths that hunger. One will consume all others... First thought - the Pantheon
Michal Pejcha I thought you typed Pandaran. was like holy shit, pandas have been trying to bring about the end times all along
Oh for goodness sake you're saying we just spent a whole expansion reviving 6 Galactuses? (Galacti?)
I know this is kind of random, but could someone please give me one good reason why Dalaran should be called a "kingdom"?
They somehow are independent with their own power and food supply from Hillsbrad and Ambermill
@@CIAinTaiwanAndUkraine
yeah I know that, but shouldn't Dalaran have like... a king/queen to be considered a kingdom? Instead they are lead by the council. In the chronicles I found out that they ***had*** magocrat lords, which kinda implies that the title was hereditary, but seeing that the council has members that were never part of the royalty or even were part of the kirin tor until recently it seems to me that being a lord is no longer a thing in Dalaran