You don’t go home with a total stranger you just met online … you never know what people might have in mind for you…. Don’t go home with a stranger period !!!!
@@opiumeyes2858 Stop repeating left wing retorts. They may sound positive, but they are actually superfluous because those who use them don't actually care about the issues. They don't care about all the terrible things that happen in the world, they just want to virtue signal. And that's exactly what you're doing.
Now imagine there were no cameras. Would Grace have have been found so quickly? If at all. There was no chance of this person being found not guilty just off camera evidence alone.
Right! And my truck gets stolen at Khols in 2023 at 6pm and you can’t even hardly tell what color or make my damn truck is!!! These cameras you can damn near read a text on their phone!
You'll be surprised I guess when you watch more of Dr . Insanities videos, or other channels like this. Because there is a surprising amount of morons who document their whole crime.
It's not hard for most (or at least many) men to say what they know women want to hear for a few hours; or even a few days; or, for those who really like to make a game of it, even weeks or months. But almost no man who is predatory would put in the effort that a woman actually deserves. Hook up culture is destroying women. If they respect you - and you respect yourself - a real man will wait until he's committed.
Could you imagine being inside an elevator next to someone with a suitcase & they have a dead body inside ????? That is INSANE !!!!! This world is awful !!!!!
In the UK An Old Couple saw two people struggling with a suitcase..whilst they were sitting outside a bench having coffee. The Old guy asked them .Whats that? a dead body? ..Turned out it was indeed 2 dead bodies of a Gay Couple. The Camera later showed the killers trying to toss the Suitcase over a bridge to no avail. The Poor Old chap was left traumatised with it all.
Hey I agree it’s absolutely terrible. But to avoid being melodramatic remember that this is an extremely small percentage of people. This isn’t like a standard characteristic of the ‘world’. On the other hand, yeah we all have sin and the propensity to do evil. We need Christ.
@@Neko.Virtual Hey, not saying you agree or trying to start a preaching session, just clarifying God's word for the record: Christ left so He could come in Spirit. He's not just some man who lived 2,000 years ago and did nice things and died. He wants to come into us and change our heart. John 16:7: "But I tell you the truth, it is profitable for you that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Comforter will not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you." Romans 8:9-10: "But you are not in the flesh, but in the spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Yet if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not of Him. But if Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, the spirit is life because of righteousness."
The fact that he used her credit card to buy the suitcase that she was buried in and to get another day at the hotel was bad enough. But to also pay for his next date??? The audacity is wild in this one!🤦🏻♀️ What trash! May the she rest in peace and condolences to the family and friends.
When you understand sociopaths, this is not at all out of the norm. They do not understand limits, using her credit card for his next date means absolutely nothing to this type of person. They have no limits, no boundaries or principles. They are very impulsive as well. All this because they have never developped a conscience. The fact that he leaves so many clues is also strange but again, some of them truly believe they can get away with anything, it's a very strange dynamic but very predictable.
My friend had chatted to Jesse on Tinder days before Grace - and she said he was super sus when they met up. He basically asked for money to help go to Australia. When she didn't 'click' with him, he got agitated she wouldn't go on with him. Thankfully, me and a few other mates were out. So we bumped into them and gave her an excuse to leave the bar with us.
Cuz if everyone saw how handsome he was, they’d all be begging for his sentence to be overturned. He’s too cute for prison! Yeah, I’m not forgetting that one anytime soon.
@@lisaproustresearch Seriously is that standard camera CCV quality in New Zealand? because the security cam footage in the states is nowhere near as clear!
It's just another good example of why we need CCTV everywhere in society, and I am even talking about inside hotel rooms, inside bathrooms etc. What is more important? Someone's rights and privacy or the safety of society? The majority is more important than the rights of the individual. Remember that.
Eye for eye justice is not a sound justice system. It can be abused and overly used to the point that even innocent people could be harmed. You need to think about that before making wild illogical statements. And second of all the reasons he was sentenced to 17 years is because the man who killed her claimed it was by accident. That they were engaged in very aggressive and rough sex to the point of actually choking eachother and getting off on that. Not saying it’s right, but I am giving you possible reasons for the sentencing. But an eye for an eye is the worst thing you can do here.
Ive always said this, that your first few dates with someone should never leave you completely isolated from others. If someone is set out on killing you then most likely it will happen, but waiting longer does allow you to potentially see those red flags.
O my god, that nonsense again. It does not matter on how many dates u go - if a pers9n is a sadistic killer he might do u after 10 th date, or after a year of living with u. Nobody can ever tell if a person is a killer or not. Just luck not meeting with one
“I bought cleaning supplies - I was in shock. I went to buy luggage - I was in shock. I went on a date with another woman - I was in shock." - Defense of Jesse Kempson.
@@Artnotforthesakeofarta murderer who’s over 6 feet tall. You stay consistent, girls. The fate will be the same. Good girls don’t end up like this… but those good girls are rare in the west nowadays.
Although I used to drink socially when I was at university as a guy. I used to black out not remembering anything the night before. Thankfully I gave it up. Been sober for 10 years. Best decision ever. Do not see the glamour of drinking.
psychopaths are everywhere male and female,be careful meeting strangers.Look how calm this guy is in the police station with complete lack of emotion and he even went on a second date after killing the first one!!
So you accidentally murder someone and your next steps are to use her credit card to buy products to clean up the murder and hide the body. You then proceed to go on a date with another woman. Seems like he couldn't care less and it was 100% premeditated.
@@KyleJames2580 I am stunned how cool he was while shopping.there is similar case a ginger teacher kills boyfriend and I guess buries in garden or garage under cement. She is so professional and evil but a teacher indeed
@@AJ-yw7hfit's also not good to breathe in smoke from a grill if you're cooking out... or work where you work cuz you're breathing in chemicals...etc etc etc
The investigator pretending not to know what "catfishing" meant was genius. Get the suspect to start over-explaining himself on little things until he eventually over-explains his involvement in the murder.
This is so crazy for me to watch because during my 20's I definitely put myself in situations just like this that could've ended in the same kind of result. I thank god for protecting me during those times.
Poor girl. She was 22, young and trusting. Unfortunately society accepts one night stands these days, and safety is forgotten about. The man was pure evil. Such a waste of life. My sympathies to her family.
A lot of people in society do Not accept one night stands, but the entertainment media makes it seem to teenagers & young people as if everyone does. However, you're right that a lot of people in society accept it, as if one night stands makes any sense or are any kind of a wise, good, or decent thing. Yes, the young woman in the videos above was too trusting, as many young people are. Our hearts go out to her family.
@@lianam3262then why not call the police? Why try to clean it up? Why use her card to purchase the items used to dispose of her? He did it before, I’m sure.
Keep your lights on people.... There is some messed up psychopaths out there. The most disturbing thing about this all is the fact he tried to cover it up and make it appear that he was the victim! Shocking
@@miggans21012 Oh please. Plenty of women went missing when she did all over NZ. One in particular. Never seen again. People, the media, police never gave a fuck and still dont. People were going to public memorials all up and down the country for this girl. No one gives a shit about the people who were born and raised here that went missing particularly Maori women.
Well it's really about common sense my dear people.And we all know some humans are dangerous. to say the least Whats even crazier and most don't know this these dangerous people are demonic in state.. thanks God bless
That's why women are so GULLIBLE these days... 😛 Putting ALL of their trust in complete and total strangers, while letting their guard down and NOT being aware of any risks or dangers (despite all the RED FLAGS). They're 100% ready and willing to go out with CREEPS that they don't hardly even know, yet they always reject and dismiss all the nice honest gentleman whom they are familiar with may have possibly known for years; such as friends or coworkers. I think it's better to take your chances with somebody that you know pretty well and could actually trust, like a close friend or a friendly neighbor; rather than to gamble with own your life and DIE like this! Uh-hum. Aha. Okay? 😏
Well, hon, if he is a sadistic killer he will take u on SEVERAL dates meanwhile premeditating the way to do business. So if a person is a sadistic killer it does not matter on how many dates he will take u.
The problem isn’t women , I hope men understand that there are men out there so evil . They wouldn’t do anything suspicious or pervert in the beginning until they gain trust ! So even if she waited couple of dates he would do the same but the fact she went with him fast , she died fast .. Women can’t predict men’s intentions that’s why men are responsible and deserve all the blame
I lost a sister that way. She met someone on FAKEBOOK, drove to Chicago from Little Rock to meet this person at a hotel. She was initially unsure but then decided to go anyway. The next time I saw her she was no longer with us. Even though she practiced poor judgment, she was still my sister. She was loved. More people should be careful about this online dating era. There's nothing wrong with being single. Trust your gut.
People please be careful going on dates. Don’t drink, don’t be unaware. Always stay aware. It’s sad that sometimes you can’t have too much fun going out. May God bless you all❤
😢I ve been friends with a girl for a decade that bring me chances to witness how naive she has been in all her online dating stories. Right now i feel so hopeless and give up reminding her to be carefull bcos all the stories all the guys she met are the same type! It would nt be my business but being a friend i feel sad and feel for her. As the first time i witness and ignorant to just see her blindly in love with a married man then she became a single mom at the age of 25. Even 6 years gone by always get in the trap with online guys from all the app or even facebook dating. The latest news last week she updated me even a most paranoid case ever of her, still blindly follow the trap. The man brag about himself about his finance status about his slew of business and prestige.. i pray for my friend each day as she always failed to see the men and failed to see the way the money chasing heart of herself.
I love how different this detective is from the ones seen in the US. He's not playing good cop at all "How does meeting in a public place protect you from meeting an ugly person" the sarcasm
And, he's sexy as Hell. The cop or detective is very sexy I think!! POOR young woman had to go with than with sinister eyes. I know I havent always been the smartest with my decisions luckily I got out of any danger big trouble By listening to that still small voice!
Shovel stayed in the car. Everyone else who saw him with the carpet cleaner probably just thought he was housekeeping (and hotels have side or rear entrances that are not monitored, so not difficult to get things in undetected).
Well the shovel is the only suspicious part. Actually really suspicious. Maybe he was digging a smuggling tunnel across the border, it’s good for business!
@@caseydanger5648 City Life is a hotel in Central Auckland, plus who the hell brings carpet cleaner into a hotel, is that the job of the hotel cleaner?
I've had most of my relationships from dating apps. They're fine but you have to be smart, you can't think with anything but your brain and trust your gut. They're great for people with good intuition, but gullible people can get into trouble.
I thought so too! He also should not have even invited her to his hotel room when he was meeting her the 1st time. That showed disrespect. NOT that anyone should assume because she went there that she was agreeing to sex. No one should assume that. That guy should not have assumed it either, but women also need to Not be Naive about guys & how the vast majority of them are. A woman *Should* assume that sex is what's on a guy's mind. The vast majority of heterosexual guys are different from the majority of hetero women that way. Women tend to think romantically, but most guys unfortunately are more than capable of thinking of a woman as just a piece of meat if she'll let him or if she's fast. The 1st time a guy sees a woman in person & he's asking her back to his hotel room (or his apartment or house if he had lived in an apartment or house), that's a Red Flag right there. No one deserves to be assaulted or killed though. No doubt many hearts go out to her poor Mom! And her family & friends.
I wonder how many murders have been prevented by psychopaths who realize there's just too much surveillance everywhere? Does that discourage them, or do they find a work-around. It's so hard to accept that such predators are out there.
@Carryonandlaughhello. As a mature woman I must say... it's wise to get the opinions of your dad and other male relatives regarding what they think about a man you are dating. Why? Because men usually can sense another man's motives/character. Men know Men. Also, pray to God and ask for the gift of discernment. I wish you a blessed life.
@Carryonandlaughyou best accept that's the most logical route to go. They're more likely to be objective, and not as swayed by his cheap leather jacket, his 3rd world " exotic " looks, ability to play 3 chords on the guitar, or his alleged promotion at his job in " sales" so remember, don't trust your own hormonal judgment. This lady did and look what happened.
Once I had internet date. The guy was waiting for me with the car and wanted us to drive into the center (which is 5 minutes from my house). I said that I have to send car plate number to my friend - because this is our safe agreement. All of the sudden he started to check SMS and said he had immediately go .... somewhere (it was kind of strange and stupid excuse). I never heard of him. I thought he was probably married ... but somehow never thought of real life threaten.
Probably married so he run away lol. Always meet in public place like restaurants. I meet at starbucks or even inside walmarts where there are a lot of people. If we click we eat and book hotel. Its not safe to go to private residence. I also try to avoid previously booked hotel i insist on booking new room together so we enter hotel together. Just for first date and to be safe.
Wouldn't matter if it's the second or third date, it can still happen. People need to stay away from trouble and sin, all it does is open to door to evil and bad things happening.
All your advice goes out the window the minute she goes out with Chad, Tyrone, Julio, Ramone and even occasionally Abdul. She'll be in heat and follow them anywhere. They could do the date in an abandon mine shaft, or a wooded hiking trail at midnight, and she'll be right on time and bent over. But only if you're one of those guys. If not, she'll give a limp hug and turn her nose up at applebees
@@naturalprinciples8520Exactly! Sin doesn't care if it's the 100th date. It's sad and heartbreaking this happened. But if Yahuah's laws statutes and commandments were always kept, wisdom would always be practiced.
People who say "don't go to house/hotel with a stranger" You can never be sure that the person you go home with won't hurt you. It's not more irresponsible to sleep with him on the first night than on the 3rd. Otherwise let's say "don't get married" because there are more women killed by their husbands than by their Tinder date. The only advice to absolutely give is to tell someone where you are and to be sure that the person with you knows that other people know who you are with and where.
People talking about not hoing anywhere private on a first, second, third date...You HAVE heard of Chris Watts, right? The creature who slaughtered his wife and daughters. Plenty of people are harmed by people they know. It's not the victims' fault. It's always the perpetrators' fault.
Whataboutism. Chris Watts has nothing to do with this case. This guy probably did not even kill her on purpose. Nothing really shows that he planned to do so. He just ended up treating her like she presented herself...for recreational use only. Being full of alcohol and being into BDSM did not really help.
Its called minimizing risk. Eliminating risk altogether is impossible, but minimizing risk is possible. If you bring home a person you just met, you are maximizing risk
@@Alnivol666 It's kinda funny how people who were not even there with the perps and their victims, all like to pretend like they know EVERYTHING about the cases like as if they were the investigators or detectives who were actually handling it... 🙄
The fact that he tried to lie about everything, where he met her, when, what happened. Its sick, its his fault and he shouldve gotten more time in jail
What a sicko man this is why it’s so scary nowadays to trust people when you go out on dates with them. Especially going back to someone’s house on the first night or especially a hotel room alone
Even though he can be considered for parole in 17 years, I highly doubt he get paroled that soon. This was a totally premeditated killing, and probably would have killed the other girl too. Even if he’s a model prisoner, there’s zero reason to ever let out.
He got 28 years to life in which he has to watch his back in prison daily being a profiled woman killer. He can appeal for parole in his 60’s or 70’s but the possibility of parole can be questionable.
@@venturelover1378 I'd imagine so, Tinder was popular back then and the Uni life was great for socialising. Lincoln is fairly small ,so people meet at similar places a lot, whether you're a student or local at that age.
@@lorra222 I didn't get to the meet-up stage with her, but she was a friendly and pretty girl for sure. It's an awful situation, because I've thought a few times "Damn, I wonder if we'd talked for longer, or said something different maybe we'd have met up etc and this could have been avoided". But the truth is nobody could have predicted this horrible situation, I just hope she's at peace.
Stop dating total strangers. Get off these society breaking apps and get to know people and tell others about people you meet...like we used to 15 years ago.
I dont understand how someone can murder someone else in the first place, but how can you sleep afterwards.... like wtf and then go out buy stuff and try to hide everything. But the sleeping part is crazy to me.
@@mesh625 It's hard for people to comprehend what emptiness feels like because they have a whole host of emotions, but that's generally what psychopaths are said to feel, nothing.
@@mesh625 that’s not quite the case but I guess it’s true in some sense. People just need time keep in mind one word: nuance. No one is the same and there are ALWAYS exceptions to any rule. There’s a whole world of psychopaths you haven’t met and 90% aren’t killers. Imagine that, NUANCE.
He's not attractive, he was drinking a lot before meeting her and he looks the type that would have bad body odour, masked by cheap aftershave. WTF ladies...TINDER🤮 where getting a terrible STD is probably the least of your worries.😢
This girl, Grace, pops into my thoughts periodically. Poor thing. Another 2 that stick in my memory are Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom. May their memory never be forgotten.
Which part of him exactly is bright? I say he is dumb as a shoe. Who goes into a hotel to do his deeds? There re cameras everywhere. I bet he was also taking his phone everywhere he went. They also said he took pics of her before and after? Wow.
This guy is absolutely disgusting. Murdering an innocent girl who thought he liked her, using her card to pay for supplies to cover the crime, acting like he thought he wasn’t safe on the date, and then acting like she wanted him to do those things to her. Absolutely pathetic!
We should go back to the old days when courtship was full of romance. A man will bring flowers to visit the woman's home every Saturday evening to get to know her family. A goodnight kiss on the cheek was the norm.
@@Crazy-Clown-In-Town Not to be rude, but that all seems like a complete waste of time to me. Courtship doesn't save lives, awareness and common sense does.
Shock. The shock of what he did. He didn’t think anything at that time-he was in panic mode and didn’t think about the consequences of getting easily found out.
The fact that these types of people, just walk around after and go about their life is shocking. Who does this? Scary scary. I love the fact that there are cameras everywhere, catch these creeps.
You should see our "prison sentences" in Sweden, here we have child killers/serial killers that are in for a maximum of 12 years and they get treated with good food and even Playstation while inside! It's a fucking joke!!!!
On my first date with ANYONE (people I met online, strangers on vacation, mutual friend, my cousin’s best friend, etc.), I always - Ask to meet at the location - Ask to split bill - Decline an offer to go to a private place - Will just stay in one location to get to know him more and prevent any unnecessary movements - Will not get drunk - Will not leave my deinks unattended - Go to toilet prior to the date so I don’t have to leave in the middle of the date for anything unless urgent, if that so, will no longer drink from my ordered drink just in case
He got life, with a minimum term in prison of 17yrs. Doesn't mean he will get out then. Depends on his behavior, also it's rare to be released on the first application for parole. He would also be on a life time of supervision. Personally I would like to see life meaning life in prison.
Nonsense they are a great way to hook up with potential friends/romantic interest when travelling like Grace. Countless thousands are doing it this very night in perfect safety. Poor Grace was very very unlucky
@@dobrescusilviu4189 True, I used to go out before dating apps were a thing and it was common to go home with someone you just met that night, or text and meet up later. If anything it adds an extra layer. Bumble is safer.
You don’t go home with a total stranger you just met online … you never know what people might have in mind for you…. Don’t go home with a stranger period !!!!
Stop Victim Blaming.
@@opiumeyes2858 obviously wasn't her fault, but he's not wrong
@@opiumeyes2858only person to blame is herself. Dont go home with a STRANGER.
@@pearlygates9763stop victim blaming
@@opiumeyes2858 Stop repeating left wing retorts. They may sound positive, but they are actually superfluous because those who use them don't actually care about the issues. They don't care about all the terrible things that happen in the world, they just want to virtue signal. And that's exactly what you're doing.
The level of video surveillance is off the charts. It felt like watching a reenactment.
Yes, but I don't think all hotels/etc have cameras in their elevators like seen in this video.
@ kman, I think you'll find that there are cameras EVERYWHERE these days - even on our mobiles...
Now imagine there were no cameras. Would Grace have have been found so quickly? If at all. There was no chance of this person being found not guilty just off camera evidence alone.
Right! And my truck gets stolen at Khols in 2023 at 6pm and you can’t even hardly tell what color or make my damn truck is!!! These cameras you can damn near read a text on their phone!
@@mondonott I was thinking the same thing. The quality is unbelievable. In the US they can't even make out a license plate from 10 feet away.
This has to be the most documented crime caught on video.
Yeah he’s an idiot at least it brought justice
For real, did he do anything outside of that room that wasn’t on camera 😅
@@themagnumtoddIm pretty sure there was a camera in the hotel room too. But they hid this fact, not to destroy the hotels reputation.😂😂😂
You'll be surprised I guess when you watch more of Dr . Insanities videos, or other channels like this. Because there is a surprising amount of morons who document their whole crime.
@@themagnumtodd ikr. 40 years ago this would have been the perfect clean up.
Renting and dragging a carpet cleaner through a hotel lobby to the elevator should have been beyond red flags.
To them he probably throws up and glad they don't have to clean it up
Nobody and I mean NOBODY cleans the carpet at a hotel! People aren’t that considerate.
She was happy and smiling all throughout the date. So sad.
It's not hard for most (or at least many) men to say what they know women want to hear for a few hours; or even a few days; or, for those who really like to make a game of it, even weeks or months. But almost no man who is predatory would put in the effort that a woman actually deserves. Hook up culture is destroying women. If they respect you - and you respect yourself - a real man will wait until he's committed.
@@Hmmm8-Lso three dates?
@@brando7266 lol ... I give up ... Good luck out there ladies.
@@Hmmm8-L how long have u gone out ,with a woman, without any kind of sex? 6 months? 😆
@@brando7266No, I would say 12 and up
Could you imagine being inside an elevator next to someone with a suitcase & they have a dead body inside ????? That is INSANE !!!!! This world is awful !!!!!
In the UK An Old Couple saw two people struggling with a suitcase..whilst they were sitting outside a bench having coffee. The Old guy asked them .Whats that? a dead body? ..Turned out it was indeed 2 dead bodies of a Gay Couple. The Camera later showed the killers trying to toss the Suitcase over a bridge to no avail. The Poor Old chap was left traumatised with it all.
@@scovyaporsha sounds like the opening of Paper Towns or something.
Hey I agree it’s absolutely terrible. But to avoid being melodramatic remember that this is an extremely small percentage of people. This isn’t like a standard characteristic of the ‘world’.
On the other hand, yeah we all have sin and the propensity to do evil. We need Christ.
@@NZAssailant christ came and left but ppl still do evil
@@Neko.Virtual Hey, not saying you agree or trying to start a preaching session, just clarifying God's word for the record: Christ left so He could come in Spirit. He's not just some man who lived 2,000 years ago and did nice things and died. He wants to come into us and change our heart.
John 16:7: "But I tell you the truth, it is profitable for you that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Comforter will not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you."
Romans 8:9-10: "But you are not in the flesh, but in the spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Yet if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not of Him. But if Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, the spirit is life because of righteousness."
I feel nothing but respect for the interrogators for staying so calm and not jumping over the table. Despite sitting in front of a liar and sociopath.
Why would they? it's a normal murder and they probably seen and heard much worse. That job is not for emotional people.
They're used to it, snowflake
bro they deal with killers all the time, why would this killer bother them...
They trained for that
Psychopath
They act like gangsters against women but almost sh!t their pants when they are getting questioned by the police.
he didn't act like a gangster, he had a sexual dark disturbing urge. Horrible correlation. May she rest in peace
@@thestrangemanreturnsYou know what he meant.
@@myslef7636 You have liberal brain. What a silly comment
He didn't shat his pants. He was trying his hardest to distance himself from and look emotionally affected by what he did
She's not resting in peace 😢 Fornication is not the ticket to Heaven. Sad for her choices. @thestrangemanreturns
He is trying to play the victim when they interrogate him. A real psychopath.
Oh really ? And I thought that the mere murder gives him away as a psychopath.
Absolutely
Didn’t buy into his crocodile tears, he is a terrible human, hope he stays in prison for life.
Evil cold-blooded monster
Yes an idiotic psychopath...
The fact that he used her credit card to buy the suitcase that she was buried in and to get another day at the hotel was bad enough. But to also pay for his next date??? The audacity is wild in this one!🤦🏻♀️ What trash!
May the she rest in peace and condolences to the family and friends.
good strategies for a hitman playthrough
@@Anthonybrother honestly? That’s a great pitch!😂
When you understand sociopaths, this is not at all out of the norm. They do not understand limits, using her credit card for his next date means absolutely nothing to this type of person. They have no limits, no boundaries or principles. They are very impulsive as well. All this because they have never developped a conscience. The fact that he leaves so many clues is also strange but again, some of them truly believe they can get away with anything, it's a very strange dynamic but very predictable.
And incredibly dumb. It's hard to see how he could have fashioned a defense when he's seen using her credit card after she's already gone missing.
It's just money ffs
My friend had chatted to Jesse on Tinder days before Grace - and she said he was super sus when they met up. He basically asked for money to help go to Australia. When she didn't 'click' with him, he got agitated she wouldn't go on with him. Thankfully, me and a few other mates were out. So we bumped into them and gave her an excuse to leave the bar with us.
Yeah same happened to my grandma. She wouldn’t see him again after the first date.
@@melomaniakjm... your deceased granny?
😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Thank God you guys were there 🙏
Oh.
So she said to you that something is wrong.
The fact that he didn’t want to be catfished but he literally “was someone completely different” and wanted to feel safe. Absolutely sick
Ladies, never kiss on a first date & never go to a private place either. No matter how good it goes.
Shouldnt go in his car too?
@@sla1746 You drive to the date on your own car, so you can leave when you want . Be smart.
No drinking either
@@sla1746 Absolutely not!
Fact
Why is he blurred out, he's a murderer
There are older videos that have all the questioning unblurred if i am not mistaken.
half the time the killers are blurred and the victims aren't (in lots of stuff, not just dr insanity) and its crazy fr
may have been released before he was convicted.
Cuz if everyone saw how handsome he was, they’d all be begging for his sentence to be overturned. He’s too cute for prison!
Yeah, I’m not forgetting that one anytime soon.
@@WrottJacksonexactly! I saw people simping over Jeffery dahmer..
it’s insane how he keeps talking about “feeling safe”
It’s a lie to make him look innocent. It’s not how he feels
Fuckery
Lol
That's what I noticed too. From my perspective as a man that made absolutely no sense at all.
Yes! It's normally the female that would say something like that; not a man.
A man goes onto the hotel holding a woman’s hand but comes out with suitcases
Fascinating how well documented the whole thing is.
The cctv quality is amazing!
You can almost read prices on receipts !
@@lisaproustresearch Seriously is that standard camera CCV quality in New Zealand? because the security cam footage in the states is nowhere near as clear!
It's our biggest city in NZ , lots of surveillance
It's just another good example of why we need CCTV everywhere in society, and I am even talking about inside hotel rooms, inside bathrooms etc. What is more important? Someone's rights and privacy or the safety of society? The majority is more important than the rights of the individual. Remember that.
In USA, they’d rather spend money on guns as if that actually keeps anyone safe 😒
17 years minimum for parole. The courts are saying her life has the value of 17 years of his. Bring back eye for eye justice.
Australia is the only country that gives killers no time and new Zealand is the same.
Eye for eye justice never works.
Eye for eye justice is not a sound justice system. It can be abused and overly used to the point that even innocent people could be harmed. You need to think about that before making wild illogical statements. And second of all the reasons he was sentenced to 17 years is because the man who killed her claimed it was by accident. That they were engaged in very aggressive and rough sex to the point of actually choking eachother and getting off on that. Not saying it’s right, but I am giving you possible reasons for the sentencing. But an eye for an eye is the worst thing you can do here.
Eye for an eye leaves the world blind
@@napakapa1046 in the world of the blind the one eyed man is king. Or something like that. Makes you think.
Ive always said this, that your first few dates with someone should never leave you completely isolated from others. If someone is set out on killing you then most likely it will happen, but waiting longer does allow you to potentially see those red flags.
And that is completely wise of you.
My now husband came home with me on our first date ❤
@@cjane_world Repent of fornication.
I agree!
O my god, that nonsense again. It does not matter on how many dates u go - if a pers9n is a sadistic killer he might do u after 10 th date, or after a year of living with u. Nobody can ever tell if a person is a killer or not. Just luck not meeting with one
RIP Grace. My condolences to her family and friends and I hope his other victims found healing 🙏 This guy should never be free in society.
“I bought cleaning supplies - I was in shock. I went to buy luggage - I was in shock. I went on a date with another woman - I was in shock."
- Defense of Jesse Kempson.
He was in shock at how quickly he got caught in his lies and in his disgusting, psychopathic crime.
I'm in shock!!!!
@@robinsonnier6887You and me, both. 😮
I was so in shock I set up a date with another girl and got drinks 💀
Why he kills her? Anyone tell me please
IMAGINE BEING THAT SECOND GIRL!!! fucking hell you'd never go on another date again
Sure, if you’re an idiot who lets a single event color the way you see the entire world as well as people.
Were Kiwis, we take our chances
Hence, we choose the bear.
Wonder if she ever knew? I know she wasn’t identified at the time, but, did she ever see something like this?
@@Artnotforthesakeofarta murderer who’s over 6 feet tall. You stay consistent, girls. The fate will be the same. Good girls don’t end up like this… but those good girls are rare in the west nowadays.
don't drink alcohol on a first, second or third date. Heck, don't drink at all. Nothing but missery comes from alcohol.
Do not give dumb advices. Alcohol does absolutely nothing to u IF U DRINK A LITTLE OF IT. the same as sweet stuff or eating or anything
Although I used to drink socially when I was at university as a guy. I used to black out not remembering anything the night before. Thankfully I gave it up. Been sober for 10 years. Best decision ever. Do not see the glamour of drinking.
@@dally369amazing! Good for you!
You are so right nothing good comes from drinking alcohol just don’t do it
Even though I may have a drink here and there, I do agree.
psychopaths are everywhere male and female,be careful meeting strangers.Look how calm this guy is in the police station with complete lack of emotion and he even went on a second date after killing the first one!!
آخر و عاقبت قرار زود هنگام و مست کردن و مسایل سکسی آخرش هم مرگ دردناک میشود
So you accidentally murder someone and your next steps are to use her credit card to buy products to clean up the murder and hide the body. You then proceed to go on a date with another woman. Seems like he couldn't care less and it was 100% premeditated.
“I bought cleaning supplies, I was in shock. I went to buy luggage, I was in shock” is a crazy defense.
Demonic behavior is what that is
Definitely premeditated. I thought it may have been an accident at first but his actions say otherwise.
You forgot to mention with the same clothes he probably killed her!!!
@@KyleJames2580 I am stunned how cool he was while shopping.there is similar case a ginger teacher kills boyfriend and I guess buries in garden or garage under cement. She is so professional and evil but a teacher indeed
Don't get drunk with someone on your first several dates. There are predators out there looking for easy opportunities to take advantage of someone.
In fact, it's best not to get drunk at all. In life. In general.
No... I'm 2731 for 2731 not being abducted, etc etc from dates in my life.
@@AJ-yw7hfit's also not good to breathe in smoke from a grill if you're cooking out... or work where you work cuz you're breathing in chemicals...etc etc etc
You dont even need to be drunk to be taken advantage of. Stay away from psychos. Listen to your gut feeling as the second woman did.
Who said she was drunk?
The investigator pretending not to know what "catfishing" meant was genius. Get the suspect to start over-explaining himself on little things until he eventually over-explains his involvement in the murder.
Some unfortunately really don't know. 😂
An investigator investigating online dating victim definitely does. They do tons of research before even questioning. @user-qm8bc4bu1t
timestamp ?
Yup that was smart to get more information about Jesse
@@stevethea52509:12
Dating apps are so dangerous you don't know who can be a serial killer!
This is so crazy for me to watch because during my 20's I definitely put myself in situations just like this that could've ended in the same kind of result. I thank god for protecting me during those times.
😢😮
Me too
Scary world we live in….
First day and go with a stranger to a hotel room??
@@milabrew1667 not a hotel room, to his house which is just as unsafe if not more.
Crazy fact, he went to another date the next day, but the girl noticed something was off and let him dow. Imaginee that, her insticts kept her alive.
He was asking how to hide a dead body. Obviously she knew he was crazy .
yes we have watched the video
Woah 😮
@@tc6070 Good for you, for you may not have been the most crazy fact
it was a friend. not a date.
Poor girl. She was 22, young and trusting. Unfortunately society accepts one night stands these days, and safety is forgotten about. The man was pure evil. Such a waste of life. My sympathies to her family.
A lot of people in society do Not accept one night stands, but the entertainment media makes it seem to teenagers & young people as if everyone does. However, you're right that a lot of people in society accept it, as if one night stands makes any sense or are any kind of a wise, good, or decent thing. Yes, the young woman in the videos above was too trusting, as many young people are. Our hearts go out to her family.
@@lianam3262 Oh, the lie he used to get away with cold blooded murder.
But why they not investigated about it he history life of the man. Maybe his sick he likes to kill ..and what happen to another girl he met ??
Why they not tell how he kill the girl ofcourse the doctor will do that to know how she die exactly
@@lianam3262then why not call the police? Why try to clean it up? Why use her card to purchase the items used to dispose of her? He did it before, I’m sure.
Keep your lights on people.... There is some messed up psychopaths out there. The most disturbing thing about this all is the fact he tried to cover it up and make it appear that he was the victim! Shocking
I saw a serial killer interview and I always remember he said that the wider a woman smiled the more likely the easier she is manipulated.
Wow 😮😢
It’s a cultural thing too.
And probably more accommodating with oral pleasures
Felt sorry for Julia Roberts. 😂
@@roshanakarya1081😂😂
Not his first victim.
THIS.
For sure last.
Missing girls in the area should be thoroughly investigated.
@@miggans21012 Oh please. Plenty of women went missing when she did all over NZ. One in particular. Never seen again. People, the media, police never gave a fuck and still dont. People were going to public memorials all up and down the country for this girl. No one gives a shit about the people who were born and raised here that went missing particularly Maori women.
@@MissPerpul Same with ethnic women in the states.
Ladies, don’t go with ANY man to his apartment or hotel when you’ve just met him.
Well it's really about common sense my dear people.And we all know some humans are dangerous. to say the least Whats even crazier and most don't know this these dangerous people are demonic in state.. thanks God bless
@@werearethedreamteam3724 You forgot to mention He is a Christian white man!!!
I´d say, don´t with ANYONE you just met.
Absolutely 💯 agree!!
Today's women are ignorant & reckless. Thanks to feminism . 60 years ago no woman would even think to do that ( unless she was a prostitute).
Notice how he looks around when he meets her for the first time. Thats a red flag 🚩
That's why women are so GULLIBLE these days... 😛
Putting ALL of their trust in complete and total strangers, while letting their guard down and NOT being aware of any risks or dangers (despite all the RED FLAGS).
They're 100% ready and willing to go out with CREEPS that they don't hardly even know, yet they always reject and dismiss all the nice honest gentleman whom they are familiar with may have possibly known for years; such as friends or coworkers.
I think it's better to take your chances with somebody that you know pretty well and could actually trust, like a close friend or a friendly neighbor; rather than to gamble with own your life and DIE like this!
Uh-hum. Aha. Okay? 😏
Its a very good warning about 'dates' dont go to a room alone with someone youve just met
Always trust your instincts
Well, hon, if he is a sadistic killer he will take u on SEVERAL dates meanwhile premeditating the way to do business. So if a person is a sadistic killer it does not matter on how many dates he will take u.
How about don't murder people
No one mentions morals … self respect.. this lose society causes these horrible issues… Dw
It’s bad. I’ve had girls invite me round with their kids upstairs off tinder.
He was "shocked and didn't know what to do", so he went on another date the next day? Bro, c'mon.
It was not a date. He knew her
He’s not a ‘bro’. He’s a criminal.
I agree with what you said. Except I definitely would not have called him my bro.. hell no!!
😂
Ladies be careful with stranger's,most stranger are not what you think they are
The problem isn’t women , I hope men understand that there are men out there so evil . They wouldn’t do anything suspicious or pervert in the beginning until they gain trust ! So even if she waited couple of dates he would do the same but the fact she went with him fast , she died fast .. Women can’t predict men’s intentions that’s why men are responsible and deserve all the blame
we have a fearmonger here to save us all
I kept getting told how “strong & fierce” women are. Are those people lying to me????
I lost a sister that way. She met someone on FAKEBOOK, drove to Chicago from Little Rock to meet this person at a hotel. She was initially unsure but then decided to go anyway. The next time I saw her she was no longer with us. Even though she practiced poor judgment, she was still my sister. She was loved. More people should be careful about this online dating era. There's nothing wrong with being single. Trust your gut.
@Jom-o4t No they're not lying.
People please be careful going on dates. Don’t drink, don’t be unaware. Always stay aware. It’s sad that sometimes you can’t have too much fun going out. May God bless you all❤
😢I ve been friends with a girl for a decade that bring me chances to witness how naive she has been in all her online dating stories. Right now i feel so hopeless and give up reminding her to be carefull bcos all the stories all the guys she met are the same type! It would nt be my business but being a friend i feel sad and feel for her. As the first time i witness and ignorant to just see her blindly in love with a married man then she became a single mom at the age of 25. Even 6 years gone by always get in the trap with online guys from all the app or even facebook dating. The latest news last week she updated me even a most paranoid case ever of her, still blindly follow the trap. The man brag about himself about his finance status about his slew of business and prestige.. i pray for my friend each day as she always failed to see the men and failed to see the way the money chasing heart of herself.
Never understood murderers crying. Shutup
Sociopaths mimic normal people. It's all a facade.
If you believe he was really crying, I've got some cool things to sell you... Have you ever heard of "crocodile tears"?
Any real tears they cry are because they were caught and pity themselves. Nothing for the victim.
Its crocodile tears
I love how different this detective is from the ones seen in the US. He's not playing good cop at all "How does meeting in a public place protect you from meeting an ugly person" the sarcasm
The way he explained what cat fishing and 50 shades of grey is 😂 . Like he’s so clued up and the detectives are clueless 🙄 !
Yeah, and when the perp asked the cop " have you heard of Catfishing ?" and the cop says "No", lol
They’ve already showed his face, why are they blurring it toward the end.
And, he's sexy as Hell. The cop or detective is very sexy
I think!! POOR young woman had to go with than with sinister eyes. I know I havent always been the smartest with my decisions luckily I got out of any danger big trouble By listening to that still small voice!
America is a childish society, that's why.
How did taking a full on carpet cleaner and a shovel into a hotel not questioned? Such odd behaviour
Shovel stayed in the car.
Everyone else who saw him with the carpet cleaner probably just thought he was housekeeping (and hotels have side or rear entrances that are not monitored, so not difficult to get things in undetected).
Well the shovel is the only suspicious part. Actually really suspicious.
Maybe he was digging a smuggling tunnel across the border, it’s good for business!
I think he said it was an apartment not a hotel
@@caseydanger5648 City Life is a hotel in Central Auckland, plus who the hell brings carpet cleaner into a hotel, is that the job of the hotel cleaner?
@@footballnz3017 no its not, usually they order big boxes of stuff and bring it by truck to the back of hotel,
This so crazy. Why did hotel workers or anyone around that place is not suspicious of someone carrying a shovels in a hotels.
Obviously he left the shovels in the car.
@@SKEAMnz😂😂😂
I have no trust in dating apps. To many weirdos and scammers. So sad for the young girl and her family.
I found my love in on line dating.. but we need to be smart to find a good one.. so sad for this young woman who she herself found her own fatality 😢
I've had most of my relationships from dating apps. They're fine but you have to be smart, you can't think with anything but your brain and trust your gut. They're great for people with good intuition, but gullible people can get into trouble.
I know at least 5 couples who met in a dating app. Successful so far.
I love meeting my loved on organically, not dating apps for me lol
@@ChristianLiteOfficialmhm, that’s me also.
It's unbelievable how today's surveillance cameras can solve a crime almost seamlessly 👍💪
We're headed for that Tom Cruise movie "The Minority Report" with Skynet in the mix.
And spy on you!
Body language is everything. The way he turned his back on her and walked ahead of her after paying the bill spoke volumes.
I know 😢 I didn’t like that either
I thought so too! He also should not have even invited her to his hotel room when he was meeting her the 1st time. That showed disrespect. NOT that anyone should assume because she went there that she was agreeing to sex. No one should assume that. That guy should not have assumed it either, but women also need to Not be Naive about guys & how the vast majority of them are. A woman *Should* assume that sex is what's on a guy's mind. The vast majority of heterosexual guys are different from the majority of hetero women that way. Women tend to think romantically, but most guys unfortunately are more than capable of thinking of a woman as just a piece of meat if she'll let him or if she's fast. The 1st time a guy sees a woman in person & he's asking her back to his hotel room (or his apartment or house if he had lived in an apartment or house), that's a Red Flag right there. No one deserves to be assaulted or killed though. No doubt many hearts go out to her poor Mom! And her family & friends.
Eh not sure if that matters, women like men to lead the way on a date. It’s two crowded to walk out side by side
This makes no sense. Fact is she got tricked by a guy who looks good not evil. Maybe girls should pay attention to dat little more.
@@charliedallachie3539 Uhm...ok.
I wonder how many murders have been prevented by psychopaths who realize there's just too much surveillance everywhere? Does that discourage them, or do they find a work-around. It's so hard to accept that such predators are out there.
It has definitely discouraged some
This is why I'm scared of dating apps 😭
@@ButteredPecan17 racist much? Jesus H Christ.
@@ButteredPecan17 anyone could be a bad person. you fr got racism issues
This can happen on Tinder and is as likely to happen in real life. It's rare but sadly there are people like this in the world.
@@ButteredPecan17 That all you have to say? Yes we know that other races are not violent right? sure.
@@ButteredPecan17 You are not a psychologist but a racist! Congrats! Maybe you can get a degree in that and work for some fascist party?
Seriously as women we need to be suspicious of everyone. It’s terrible. It’s not fair.
Life is not fair…your father and brothers should pick your boyfriends..
@@ugaaismoron
@Carryonandlaughhello. As a mature woman I must say... it's wise to get the opinions of your dad and other male relatives regarding what they think about a man you are dating. Why? Because men usually can sense another man's motives/character. Men know Men. Also, pray to God and ask for the gift of discernment. I wish you a blessed life.
@Carryonandlaughyou best accept that's the most logical route to go. They're more likely to be objective, and not as swayed by his cheap leather jacket, his 3rd world " exotic " looks, ability to play 3 chords on the guitar, or his alleged promotion at his job in " sales" so remember, don't trust your own hormonal judgment. This lady did and look what happened.
@@ugaaisright hun
Poor girl. She seemed so kindhearted and nice. How could he... May she rest in peace
Unfortunately she was too trusting in this case....guys like this prey on naive women who don't notice subtle red flags.
Probably a s 3 x act that resulted in her dea th
Can’t imagine the parents and family’s pain. This man should never see the day light ever again.
Girls....take care of yourself
👆 from this guy folks
From his kind of people that said it.
Men… stop murdering women
The guy that committed this murder was white. What are you talking about. @modickens1272
@@itskraziechowdhry21The guy that committed this murder was white. What are you talking about?
Once I had internet date. The guy was waiting for me with the car and wanted us to drive into the center (which is 5 minutes from my house). I said that I have to send car plate number to my friend - because this is our safe agreement. All of the sudden he started to check SMS and said he had immediately go .... somewhere (it was kind of strange and stupid excuse). I never heard of him. I thought he was probably married ... but somehow never thought of real life threaten.
NEVER get into a Car with a Stranger. Yes your DATE is stranger!
Probably married
But best to avoid
Probably married so he run away lol.
Always meet in public place like restaurants. I meet at starbucks or even inside walmarts where there are a lot of people. If we click we eat and book hotel. Its not safe to go to private residence. I also try to avoid previously booked hotel i insist on booking new room together so we enter hotel together. Just for first date and to be safe.
What are you tlaking about?This girl was kiled in the hotel!!@arjunkc3227
Never go to any hotel to be alone with someone you just met! Especially on the first date
Wouldn't matter if it's the second or third date, it can still happen. People need to stay away from trouble and sin, all it does is open to door to evil and bad things happening.
Never murder anyone.
@@lilithowl But never go to an hotel with a stranger. This is just Survival 101
All your advice goes out the window the minute she goes out with Chad, Tyrone, Julio, Ramone and even occasionally Abdul. She'll be in heat and follow them anywhere. They could do the date in an abandon mine shaft, or a wooded hiking trail at midnight, and she'll be right on time and bent over. But only if you're one of those guys. If not, she'll give a limp hug and turn her nose up at applebees
@@naturalprinciples8520Exactly!
Sin doesn't care if it's the 100th date. It's sad and heartbreaking this happened. But if Yahuah's laws statutes and commandments were always kept, wisdom would always be practiced.
People who say "don't go to house/hotel with a stranger"
You can never be sure that the person you go home with won't hurt you. It's not more irresponsible to sleep with him on the first night than on the 3rd. Otherwise let's say "don't get married" because there are more women killed by their husbands than by their Tinder date.
The only advice to absolutely give is to tell someone where you are and to be sure that the person with you knows that other people know who you are with and where.
Just don't go home with a complete stranger to have sex. Are you this dumb? The world is not a theme park.
Tinder is a disgusting activity.
Hookups with strangers. Sex expected. Strange.
It's basically free prostitutes but dirtier. 🤢
Geez !!! HE was afraid of online catfishing??? While he prays on women online!!!
it reminds me of those people with excessive jealousy and how they are the ones projecting most of the times
A lot of misogynists whine about catfishing to make themselves look like a victim
Preys.
Most catfishers are self-conscious fat women.
*preys
People talking about not hoing anywhere private on a first, second, third date...You HAVE heard of Chris Watts, right? The creature who slaughtered his wife and daughters. Plenty of people are harmed by people they know. It's not the victims' fault. It's always the perpetrators' fault.
Whataboutism. Chris Watts has nothing to do with this case. This guy probably did not even kill her on purpose. Nothing really shows that he planned to do so. He just ended up treating her like she presented herself...for recreational use only. Being full of alcohol and being into BDSM did not really help.
Its called minimizing risk. Eliminating risk altogether is impossible, but minimizing risk is possible. If you bring home a person you just met, you are maximizing risk
@@thisisobviouslynotmyrealname exactly
Hey genius people just mean you’re taking more of a risk of something bad happening if you indulge in this behavior.
@@Alnivol666 It's kinda funny how people who were not even there with the perps and their victims, all like to pretend like they know EVERYTHING about the cases like as if they were the investigators or detectives who were actually handling it... 🙄
7:56 kind of odd how the detective looks like the criminal and the criminal looks like the detective.
wow this is straight out of a horror movie. the killer has such a soft spoken voice, and a sweet guy persona…. who would’ve ever known?
I think it was pretty obvious he had a few screws loose in these videos. I saw nothing sweet about this stoic self absorbed individual.
Unfortunately the bad people never look like Freddy Kruger!
@@errin-mp1zy 😂😂😂 No the world is not so easy
U gotta learn abt Jeffery dahmer
I feel like I've heard this name before pls brief me on what this guy did@@babyy-ms7dp
The fact that he tried to lie about everything, where he met her, when, what happened. Its sick, its his fault and he shouldve gotten more time in jail
he got life in prison, wdym he needs more jail time (ik parole exists but there is no guarantee he will get it)
@@PopularClipsChannel he still shouldn't have gotten a single parole at all imo
thats what you expect from a murderer
is she dead?
@@PhillipS53 women are stupid enough to go on dates with random dudes
The dude went in and out of the elevator at least 50 times knowing there’s a camera inside. Well done genius
What a sicko man this is why it’s so scary nowadays to trust people when you go out on dates with them.
Especially going back to someone’s house on the first night or especially a hotel room alone
It’s funny how he thinks he’s slick, yet we can see his every move
It's no wonder he was figured out so quickly 😂 he's so DUMB I'm surprised he didn't get caught red-handed with the body!!
He's a sociopath. He truly believes he can't be touched
@@kkaka26low IQ sociopath
If he wasn’t so arrogant he could have been a problem because he was on a mission, who knows how many he got away with?
@@HardCandy-d9qexactly. For him to be this confident, he’s most likely done it before 😢
What a disgrace! 17 years!?? How? Why? What injustice for this poor young woman! Hoping he gets what he deserves in prison!
Even though he can be considered for parole in 17 years, I highly doubt he get paroled that soon. This was a totally premeditated killing, and probably would have killed the other girl too. Even if he’s a model prisoner, there’s zero reason to ever let out.
@@PlanetBlake They'll prolly kill him in prison LONG before that even happens...
He got 28 years to life in which he has to watch his back in prison daily being a profiled woman killer. He can appeal for parole in his 60’s or 70’s but the possibility of parole can be questionable.
@@sethkinman9597 Okay.
@@PlanetBlake Yeargh, alraight... 😁
Lessons I learned from videos like this is that women should let their friends know where they are going out and where they will be.
Yeah good advice for anyone M/F going out on a date with a stranger it’s happened both ways..
Thats the lesson you learned? what about dont go to a stranger's hotel after meeting for the first time lol.
She still would be dead, unfortunately, even if he friends knew where she was.
And also casually let the date know that your friends know.
And that would help the dead girl how?
Thanks for sharing, how some people can appear so normal, can end up doing unpredictable things 😢
Right from the start, I can see that he was NOT normal...
Back in the day I matched with Grace on Tinder when she was a student at Lincoln Uni, it's surreal knowing she died this way, RIP.
She must've been on tinder for a good bit. Seems lots of guys coming forward that matched, talked to her
Omg 😮
Did u actually meet up ? Omg scary
@@venturelover1378 I'd imagine so, Tinder was popular back then and the Uni life was great for socialising. Lincoln is fairly small ,so people meet at similar places a lot, whether you're a student or local at that age.
@@lorra222 I didn't get to the meet-up stage with her, but she was a friendly and pretty girl for sure. It's an awful situation, because I've thought a few times "Damn, I wonder if we'd talked for longer, or said something different maybe we'd have met up etc and this could have been avoided". But the truth is nobody could have predicted this horrible situation, I just hope she's at peace.
Girlies,don't go into private rooms on start dates. Thoroughly know the guy well before you're alone with the guy.
It's incredibly unfortunate this isn't the norm for many people
This goes for guys too.
Good advice but still, you never know a person truly. %99 of people are pretending.
The fact the cop had him explain what catfishing is low key hilarious. Bruh, ofc cops know what catfishing is lmao
Because the Cop said he doesnt know?!
@@kippesolo8941 He's trying to pretend he doesnt know so he can see what jesse says.
@@Hanni3955 Yea i know, but what does he hope to get from that? That he comes up with a different Definition?
@@kippesolo8941 probably
Yeah the cops are not dumb. The idea is to keep the suspect talking.
Stop dating total strangers.
Get off these society breaking apps and get to know people and tell others about people you meet...like we used to 15 years ago.
Not the sharpest tool. Using her card to purchase the items and not taking her phone. Just a straight up psycho path
Yeah, he is clearly a huge idiot, but he took an innocent life... What a garbage!
What's really shocking is that every step of this person's day is on video.
Ok so for you her death is not shocking...
@Alucard12456 why would it be shocking. Men kill women everyday
Also* shocking
He searched, "where to hide a body" Before the date. I don't think he was saying sorry to her, like he claims.
Yeah so he planned it, sounds like a serial killer just got stopped in his tracks
That guy should rot in jail for the rest of his life but ladies have some self respect and dignity.
How does the hotel staff not see him take a carpet cleaner into the facility?
😂 I was also wondering how nobody at the desk found this odd and asked wtf he was up to.
Right! Even if he was a travelling carpet cleaner, his gear would stay in his vehicle.
I work at a hotel and trust me long as you act normal and are polite we literally dont see anything. @breakfastattiffanys741
it's new zealand bro, crimes are low. people are not as vigilant.
He is diabolical.
a sociopath.
he didnt do anythong
@user-ex8xf9fr7u same thing. more or less.
@@Neko.Virtualthick fuck. Here’s the attention you’re looking for.
I dont understand how someone can murder someone else in the first place, but how can you sleep afterwards.... like wtf and then go out buy stuff and try to hide everything. But the sleeping part is crazy to me.
Right!!! People are just mentally fked💯
psychopaths Don't have these genuine feelings : fear , regrets..etc
@@mesh625 It's hard for people to comprehend what emptiness feels like because they have a whole host of emotions, but that's generally what psychopaths are said to feel, nothing.
exactly my thought! I would NEVER be able to sleep with that on my conscience.
@@mesh625 that’s not quite the case but I guess it’s true in some sense. People just need time keep in mind one word: nuance.
No one is the same and there are ALWAYS exceptions to any rule. There’s a whole world of psychopaths you haven’t met and 90% aren’t killers.
Imagine that, NUANCE.
As an American , I really enjoy the investigators look and sense of near British passive dismissiveness of his BS story.
How is a creep like this getting dates? look at his eyes, what do women see in this guy? shocking.
Easy. Aggressiveness. Masculinity. Dominance. The perfect candidate for tinder.
He's not attractive, he was drinking a lot before meeting her and he looks the type that would have bad body odour, masked by cheap aftershave. WTF ladies...TINDER🤮 where getting a terrible STD is probably the least of your worries.😢
I was confused too
No matter how much they insist on denying it, most women are attracted to shitty guys.
True , exactly
This girl, Grace, pops into my thoughts periodically. Poor thing.
Another 2 that stick in my memory are Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom. May their memory never be forgotten.
@frollockinthemeadow I know. I'm just a random guy in the UK but they cross mind often. Worst case I've ever heard of.
@@dizzyupthefool5180 what happend?
@@SilaSsemshaug I don't want to be "that guy" but if you don't know, I would suggest NOT finding out. It ruined my mind for ages.
Look into the case of Michelle Avila. That case is truly haunting
@@dizzyupthefool5180 Thank you. I won't go digging. Some of these Stories are traumatizing 💔
Sad, poor girl. This guy is really bright. How can you not know about the security cameras. it's just sad that these kind of people walk among us.
Which part of him exactly is bright? I say he is dumb as a shoe. Who goes into a hotel to do his deeds? There re cameras everywhere. I bet he was also taking his phone everywhere he went. They also said he took pics of her before and after? Wow.
Its compulsive and irrational. Likely a psychopath
He thought he was invincible and could talk his way out of anything because he's so cunning
You mean he is NOT bright
Girlies,don't go into private rooms on start dates
This guy is absolutely disgusting. Murdering an innocent girl who thought he liked her, using her card to pay for supplies to cover the crime, acting like he thought he wasn’t safe on the date, and then acting like she wanted him to do those things to her. Absolutely pathetic!
So a murderer can get all these tinder dates, but i can't get a single 1?
Ouch...
And he was in sweat pants
Lol
I don't even get a like
Yeah but HE looked good and was actually six foot tall (unlike all the losers who pretend to be ;)
Is this comment real?
girls please don't go alone to a hotel room or apartment on a first date. poor girl.
Even more reason why girls should by law be trained in martial arts and be allowed to carry firearms for self defence.
We should go back to the old days when courtship was full of romance. A man will bring flowers to visit the woman's home every Saturday evening to get to know her family. A goodnight kiss on the cheek was the norm.
@@Crazy-Clown-In-Town Not to be rude, but that all seems like a complete waste of time to me. Courtship doesn't save lives, awareness and common sense does.
@@Crazy-Clown-In-Town you mean in old days, there were no crimes against women? after all that flower and night kiss things!!
My heart goes out to graces family. How on earth did he think he was going to get away with it?!?
Shock. The shock of what he did. He didn’t think anything at that time-he was in panic mode and didn’t think about the consequences of getting easily found out.
He is a sociopath .. he doesn't care
. He doesnt think like us normal people
It's sad when you think about the fact that she smiled the whole time and just wanted to feel love.
The fact that these types of people, just walk around after and go about their life is shocking. Who does this? Scary scary. I love the fact that there are cameras everywhere, catch these creeps.
17 years what a fuccin joke
Life, not 17 years. 17 years before he might ask for parole
He should have got 50 years without parole
that is joke system out there.not fair for the family of the victim.they r the onces who r going through hard time.
You should see our "prison sentences" in Sweden, here we have child killers/serial killers that are in for a maximum of 12 years and they get treated with good food and even Playstation while inside! It's a fucking joke!!!!
Marry.
Rest in peace, Grace. A beautiful lady whose soul was selfishly taken way too soon
On my first date with ANYONE (people I met online, strangers on vacation, mutual friend, my cousin’s best friend, etc.), I always
- Ask to meet at the location
- Ask to split bill
- Decline an offer to go to a private place
- Will just stay in one location to get to know him more and prevent any unnecessary movements
- Will not get drunk
- Will not leave my deinks unattended
- Go to toilet prior to the date so I don’t have to leave in the middle of the date for anything unless urgent, if that so, will no longer drink from my ordered drink just in case
Dm me baby
Only 17 years SHOCKING
Wow, thats scary. Needs 25 at minimum
He got life, with a minimum term in prison of 17yrs. Doesn't mean he will get out then. Depends on his behavior, also it's rare to be released on the first application for parole.
He would also be on a life time of supervision. Personally I would like to see life meaning life in prison.
His defense went out the window the moment he tried to cover it up and even went on another date right after killing that girl.... what a phycho.
His internet searches and the other two women who came forward about him sexually assaulting them on a date before .
*psycho
The monsters we fear live among us
Truth
And the skanks as well.
Ladies, have we learned anything here?
Nobody should join Dating Apps Ever
truth is there have been a lot of murders and dating apps were not involved, this is a tragedy but Grace was just unlucky to meet this psycho ..
Nonsense they are a great way to hook up with potential friends/romantic interest when travelling like Grace. Countless thousands are doing it this very night in perfect safety. Poor Grace was very very unlucky
@@dobrescusilviu4189 True, I used to go out before dating apps were a thing and it was common to go home with someone you just met that night, or text and meet up later. If anything it adds an extra layer. Bumble is safer.
I got married through an app
I met my husband on one
Man this second girl he was on a date with is lucky. 🍀 Happy she got spooked!
"Atleast in my mind, I feel safe"
Says the killer 😂
I was wondering if this was the USA until the lady cop was wearing that outfit and during the interrogation both of their accents were way off 😂😂