The REAL Reason Why Henry NEVER Won The Ballon D'Or
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How good was Thierry Henry actually? #GOAT
New video about one of the most talked about players we've seen over the 2000s in football. In this episode we take on Thierry Henry who played for Arsenal, Barcelona, Juventus and Monaco for most of his career.
0:00 Please like the video, it means the world
1:20 The Wonderkid Who Didn't Like Football
2:39 Become The World's Most Disapointing Wonderkid
5:07 How Arsene Wenger SAVED Henry's Career
8:15 The First Time Henry Was ROBBED
10:40 The Second Time Henry Was ROBBED
12:30 The Saddest Moment Of Henry's Career
14:26 The Final Shot At The Ballon D'Or - Спорт
Henry, Lewandowski and Maldini are the most deserving non Balon D'or winners for me
Lewa isn’t the same since everyone agrees he got the 2020 Ballon D’or
@@Kaijufied He didn't get in 2020, he didn't get in 2021...They moreover insulted him with a puny award "Striker of the year " award 😭.
@@debayanpal3181 what did lewa in 2021 had over Messi excluding goals? Yeah nothing winning the farmersliga with 60 tapins doesn’t make you a ballon dor winner
@@commieslayer7046 wipe off messis tip after ur done lil bro
@@commieslayer7046 So, in the same case what did Messi had over Iniesta in 2010 and 2019 except for Goals and Assists, that he won the Balon D'or?...What did Ronaldo had over Ribery except for goals in 2013 that he won the Balon D'or? .
Henry finishing 4th in 2004 has to be one of the biggest robberies ever
Someone should of phoned the police because that definitely was a robbery
I see you everywhere you are a football fanatic
This comment has to be the biggest disrespect to Sheva. Henry probably deserves a BO but not that year.
@@aymanbenbaha not saying he didn’t deserve the Ballon D’or, I’m saying it’s crazy he didn’t even make the podium
Are you kidding? Nedved carried Juve to the UCL Final, and won Serie A when Serie A was still the best league in the world.
"Sooo listen to this..."
This will become a classic quote in the future 😂😂😂
I’d argue Neuer. He achieved everything and perfected the way gks play now way back then unlike the other gks mentioned in the video
and courtois
@@mr.someone5679 nope but he good
neuer was insane but kahn is the goat goalkeeper carried germnay to the world cup final 2002 and was named player of the tournament as goalie
@@DD-rk6knthink he only didn't win ballond'or in 2002 because he made a mistake in the final
I would go with Buffon over Neuer. I'm aware that Neuer won everything, but Buffon was ultimate prodigy since he was 17. Long lasting career at the highest level. How ever, Neuer is the best ball control GK that I saw which makes him maybe a bit modern GK.
"There's one man left..." As if Raul wasn't robbed. But being Spanish is a major handicap in a French award
The fact that they gave it to Michael Owen over Raul is the true robbery 💀💀💀💀
@@theshahofiran902 why it was fair balon dor back then was for European and club success owen won a treble and a super cup how can Raul be given the balon dor over the Premier league top scorer, uefa Cup winner,fa cup winner who scored both goals with 5 mins go when 1 down to my mob Arsenal Henry had a shocker, and the league cup that ment alot 20 years ago,then they best bayern I think in the super cup
@@theshahofiran902 no it was not. And I'm a Madrid fan. Owen came Madrid and upstaged Raul. Owen was deadly that time
Owens numbers were impressive in regards to minutes, I believe he held that record but he was also made of glass. Raul was second striker role for the most part, so it's entirely fair to compare them on that merit alone@@sugs1191
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My favourite ever legendary player during my childhood days Thierry Henry sir,mainly during his years at my boyhood AS Monaco and beloved Arsenal where he scored many goals and won numerous number of trophies!!!Yet,he was totally unfortunate not to win the Balon D'Or at that time but he is a lifelong world class footballer of all time,good friends!!!LONG LIVE THIERRY HENRY SIR!!!🏋♂️
Henry has never scored in a Final of a Cup Competition.
I always felt that if Rooney was more selfish he could of easily won one he was more about the team than his own individual achievements which makes what he achieved even more impressive and its why us united fans will always worship him.
But Henry is also a good shout too baffles me how he never especially during arsenals unbeaten season
@bengan2588 tell me you know nothing about football without telling me u know nothing about football... he was until recently England's record goalscorer not his fault everyone else around him was shit lol
@@tweetworse6736 someone else thar knows absolutely nothing about football....stick to golf
He looks Mexican he know nothing lol
Oi don't call the players shit. It was the goddamn managers. Calling Gerrard, Terry, Lampard, Scholes, Cole, etc shit is pure disrespect @@danielcunningham6727
he did nothing in cl so no
Henry was the press MOTM in Euro 2000 Final. He dominated the best defence of all times, in arguably his best game in blue.
I think Samuel Eto’o isn’t been talked about enough ! He definitely needed a ballon d’or
Which year or years. Stood out for you, to say Eto'o should've won? For me none he even has less of a case than Henry.
what do u guys think about drogba ?
@@arielhernandezzz Henry, Eto'o and Drogba in that order. However, Eto'o and Drogba are both big game players. Henry wasn't, that and staying at Arsenal too long were my only critics of him.
No he didn't fool
I'm African and Eto'o never had a year in which he was a genuine contender, only 2005, and that was Ronaldinho's year.
Henry was the EPL GOAT being the only player alongside Messi to ever score 20+ goals and 20+ assists in a single season. So sad he didn't win he definitely deserved at least 3 Ballon d'ors overall.😢😢😢
Not 3, that’s a bit too much
@@siddhgoswami9452I agree but atleast one at the very least
You're crazy. 1 at max. That was a stacked era. He should've won in 2003 or 2004
he's probably a hardcore arsenal fan or he's French
@@danielcunningham6727 agreed, 2004
Love your videos man! I look forward to them all week long and often watch videos I've seen before more than once or twice 😅 keep it up
Another fantastic video. Learned a lot again. Thank you
Thierry Henry and Ronaldinho are by far my favorite living football legends, they are the reason I fell in love with football in the first place, they are part of my childhood... Henry should have won at least one or two ballon d'or in the 2003 and 2004 seasons, he was so unique and underrated back then, he was almost unstoppable and genuinely a very good all-rounder authentic player. ☯️✌️
Kids these days actually don’t know how crazy sheva was in his prime🤣,from 1999 -2005 he was always top 5 in the b’dor rankings and except 02 because of injury, in 1999 and 2000 he came 3rd as a 23yo from Ukraine to a new league scoring over 20+ each in both seasons in what was considered the hardest league to many. He won champs in 03 and came 4th in the rankings ,the next year also scoring over 20+goals in 2004. All this while he always had great performances in the UCL. My honest thoughts was that he was always going to win it just because he was always in and around it and stayed consistent for Milan eventually becoming milan 2nd highest goal scorer of all time in under 6 years with 170+goals and this was during prime Seria A.
Still not better than Henry though.
Great content as always 🫶
In late 2002, whole of 2003 and some of 2004, Thierry Henry was the best player in the World. He was insane, passes, dribbles, assists, goals, free-kicks, skills etc. There times Zidane turned it on and he was just ridiculous in the Champions League games in 2003, thats why Henry missed out on the Fifa World player of the year 2003. But lets get one thing straight Nedved didn't deserve to win the Ballon O'dor in 2003.
yea in 2003 Nesta should have won it. Best defensive performance season in the 21st century
Bullshit. Henry won jackshit in 2003, whereas Nedved was the most clutch player on the planet and was Juve's best player all season.
As you said, EPL wasnt top 1 league at that moment, thats explains 2004 Ballon Dor to Shevchenko, it was deserved (not sure about placing Henry on 4th though).
That doesn't matter Henry was clearly better overall and in Champions League 2003/04
Henry: 30 goals and 7 assist in 37 games in PL. 5 goals and 7 assist in 10 games in CL
Shevchenko: 24 goals and 3 assist in Serie A in 32 games. 4 goals and 1 assist in 9 games in CL
the premier league wasn't that far from serie A if not arguably in the same list, if the serie a was better it wouldn't be in a big margin, the proof is that the performance of premier league teams in champions league was good. Plus the ballon d'or isn't only given to the players from the top 1 league.
How does the statement "Top 1" sound reasonable to you???
Top 1???😂😂😂
@@roesmith98 That's only the top 1 or 2 teams, pal, not the league as a whole. Don't you understand that?
Even Deco deserved it more than Sheva that year.
maldini man, deserves it no doubt about it.
defenders never win….
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nice vid. pls a trezeguet one next. thank you
Henry could've won in 03 or 06. But in 04 it's Deco that got robbed (Winner and best player of the Champions league+ Euro finalist)
Respect 💯
But was he the best player of that team
Disagree in 04 - Figo was criminally overlooked and was stil better than Deco. He proved that at Euro 2004. And he destroyed Deco in the Champ League when they met in the group stage.
@@sugs1191 what ? Figo was not the main man
Lol look at shevchenkos stat from 2003-2005 you’ll see why he won it ,also go look at his honors ,he beat deco in the super cup final in 03 as well 😂
You did nedved dirty, he was amazing that season. Also Robben and Lahm deserved it in their best years.
Edit: Ah you gave Nedved some credit, I saw but still.
Henry, Lewandowski, Del Piero and Maldini are the best players to not have won a ballon d'or, which they all clearly deserved.
Hey bro,been watching your channel for so much time like when you were pronuncing champions șampions😂 and nearly all of the vids and i really think a video on Marco Van Basten would be great i mean 3 ballon d’ors by the age of 29 and the same age he retired anyway keep up w the good work and all love❤️(i am also wondering how has your day been and how do you feel!😁)
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I don't remeber you doing a video of Jurgen Klinsmann yet. Been subscribed since the early thousands.
While everybody compared Henry and Ronaldinho, the world got to see more of Serie A and La liga matches so naturally it was bigger appeal to vote Nedved, Shevchenko, Ronaldinho. What were Ronaldinhos contributions in 04'? Also Nike saw in Ronaldinho what Magic was for Basketball. Great marketing.
I would put Gerrard there to. Single-handly won a champions leauge final vs the best Milan team ever. The best CL-final of all time, it's been voted. Gerrard carry his childhood club to win Champions Leauge. What a story, and what a legacy. Gerrard had everything you wanted from a player. Respect to Henry as well, he was such a flawless guy to watch. Both Henry and Gerrard are two top of 2000's that should have won Ballon D'or.
As much of an amazing player as Gerrard was, and how undoubtedly influential he was in that whole CL run, saying he won the final "single-handedly" is a huge overstatement. They wouldn't have been in the game without Gerrard for sure, but he did not "single-handedly" win the game. He won the penalty that Dida saved which was put in on a rebound. Jerzy Dudek made a massive stop against Shevchenko late in the game which would have put Milan back in front. Then in the penalty shootout Dudek saved penalties from Sheva and Pirlo which no doubt played a massive psychological impact. Yes, Gerrard was the lynchpin and performed outstanding, but to say he won that game single-handedly is a massive stretch.
@@roryslaine7896 Yes, but the influence he had an on the final. He scored 1-3, made the penalty to 2-3. And even played right back in a final. The guy was everywhere.
You are clutching at straws here. I'm a United supporter and Gerrard pretty much Did singlehandedly sway the game back in Liverpool's favour.
@@zinedinezidane4771 I'd hardly say it was clutching at straws. If you read my comment you'd see I said Gerrard was the lynchpin and undoubtedly was a massive/ the main driving force behind that win. I wasn't trying to discredit Gerrard in any way. I just don't agree that he "single-handedly" won the game. Stating that you're a United fan is also completely irrelevant here.
slippy g
Your way of delivering is unique, and makes for an interesting listen, however some facts are off...HENRY reeked havoc on the Italian defense in that Euro 2000 final!
I think the likes of Suarez ,Neymar infesta and xavi and older players like Romario probably deserved it more and again we have o take the fact that Henry never excelled in international competitions or was the main guy in the case of France which meant that he could have a better league season but he wouldn’t win the ballon dor and also bud luck when competing with the likes of returning Ronaldo in 2002 and peak ronaldinho in another one. And if France won zidane would most likely have won the award.
Lewandowski deserved even more than those guys
@@yemi3266 yeah the 2020,2021 probably he had better case for receiveiving the awards if we are talking sole about deserving if we talk about greatest player to me he isn’t. And standard for winning the ballon d or changes every year . For example out of the last 10 to 12 years Suarez probably had the best season aside from Messi and cr7 and he didn’t win the ballon dor while Benzema did which requires the right timing.
Suarez and Neymar? What international competitions did they "excel" in?
@@haydenmachonisse4031Suarez?? Griezman deserved it in both 16 and 18
@@user-bi5nw4vp6thow ? Griezmann had bad luck
You could have a quite a long list on this, the ballon d'or won by Sheva and Nedved were well deserved. They both were magnificent that season and won trophies. You gotta keep in mind the league that Henry plays in compare to Nedved and Sheva was like Serie A was equivalent of Premier league today and PL was like german league.
No one has ever said that lmao stop making things up clown
That's the bitter truth.
Lol, that is a horrible comparison between the Bundesliga and PL, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
Also Henry was clearly better than Shevchenko in 2003/04.
Henry: 30 goals and 7 assist in 37 games in PL. 5 goals and 7 assist in 10 games in CL
Shevchenko: 24 goals and 3 assist in Serie A in 32 games. 4 goals and 1 assist in 9 games in CL
@@hoya1178 My boy, there was nothing horrible about that, because everybody who is older than you know. PL were far below Serie A, 1 goal in serie A worth at least 3 in PL.
@@abuhadrami9332 Lol, no it wasn't.
You are talking bs just because you can't argue against the facts I brought.
I genuinely think people underestimate just how good Nedved was especially in that run to UCL final in 2003 with Juve
He was good but Henry was even better in that particular calendar year
@@jzlnznope Henry only performed in league only nedved performed both in league and UCL so that is why he won.
@@jzlnzYes and No ... Henry he had good stats but no impact that year unfortunately ... Arsenal didn't go far into the champions league didn't won the premier league and Van Nistelrooy scored more than him. Henry was clearly ballon d'or level but I think that I he moved to Barcelona sooner during his prime he would won the ballon d'or without a doubt.
@@pauliyonas3576 the league is like 40 games.
@@sugs1191 if you want to be the best of the best you have to preform in UCL plus Nedved preform in the league to.
This is the fastest I ever got to a video
Xavi and Iniesta unfortunately played on the same team as the best Messi, both of them deserved it at some point
It wasn't because of Messi, it was because they played together. When you think about a great midfielder, you don't think about Xavi or Iniesta. You think about Xavi AND Iniesta. How could a duo be the best PLAYER?
@@caralho5237 they should have picked one of them, easy
@@caralho5237Xavi 2009 was more influential than Messi. He deserved 09 balon d or ,in 10 Iniesta/ Sniedger. If it was fair Messi would be winning 4,CR 2
@@user-bi5nw4vp6t but thats down to the bias for forwards. A forward is always more likely to win
@@user-bi5nw4vp6tGerrard was better than Xavi in 2009
There should be an award for the best player. Period.
Regardless of club and national team success. Just about the player performance itself.
But consistentcy matters
Could you please do a video on Zinedine Zidane i feel like this channel will do well in it❤
the fact that henry never won it is rlly sad
Henry was actually sacrificed of his deserved ballon d'or awards just for those legends to win and make their names ahead of him till now but that's why some of we over here only choose players not because of awards or the ballon d'or but their talent and crazy ability to use the ball for effectiveness, because some players were delibrately deprived from what belonged to them, backed with somewhat unnecessary logical means and excuses.
These robbed players are always remembered by we the fans and will never be forgotten of what french football magazine did to them which is criminal in broad day.
The player that Made me fall in love with futbol
Bro I like your videos beacuse your of your voice
OMG, I am sick of this BS discussion.
Firstly, those who have any doubts regarding Nedved and Sheva deserving Ballon D’Ors please watch Nistelrooy talking about how it felt facing AC Milan of those times while playing for MU which was dominating PL ( ua-cam.com/video/S3Syp9urjXM/v-deo.html ). Serie A was by far a better league back than.
I want to talk about Sheva first because those who are debating were not watching (or do not remember) football of those times. In 2003-06 period Ronaldinho and Shevchenko were considered to be the best players in Europe. Their Barcelona and AC Milan were monsters of UCL. Even during charity All Star matches organized by FIFA, it was Ronaldinho’s XI vs Shevchenko’s XI game and players like Zidane, Henry, Ronaldo used to be in their teams. Author lies that Sheva was not Serie A’s top scorer in 2003/04, he was Capocannoniere of that season. Henry in PL scored 30 goals in 37 games, and Sheva scored 24 in 32 matches. The numbers in terms of ratio per game are very close, but considering the difficulty of the league it’s no match. And as author correctly mentioned, Sheva won the league title, while Henry was not even the best goalscorer of PL. I am sorry, but Ballon d’Or votes are not much based on FA cup performance. Even the UEFA Supercup that Sheva won that season against Deco’s Porto was considered more valuable title.
And it’s also ridiculous to debate Nedved vs Henry with stats. Zidane and Iniesta were scoring handful of goals a season, but were always amongst the best. You guys should rewind back and watch how great Nedved was that season.
Then why it felt a insult ?
Amazing comment, bro. Titi fanboys, Arsenal fanboys and PL fanboys are too loud these days, disrespecting the legends like Nedved and Sheva.
The biggest robbery was Raul 2001 when they gave it to Owen.
2002 Ronaldo over Roberto Carlos
@@mike.cdn7212Ronaldo was a better player then Roberto Carlos in 2002
In 2001 - should of gone to Figo or Rivaldo. Raul was not even the best player in la liga
@@sugs1191clearly don’t remember the 2001 season
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Oh yeah another DDOF post let’s goooo
I remember that world cup and don't remember Henry lighting it up or being one of the main reasons France won too many quiet moments, Nedved was quality, proved it time and time again
So bro was a monster for arsenal during the invincibles but ghosted in big club games and then didn't really do anything for the national team...its hard to say if he was robbed or not. I mean this was before the era domination of Lionel and Cristiano. For sure if he won the champions League or world cup then definitely
But it felt so polarizing
so games against United, Chelsea, Liverpool, Real Madrid, Juve, Brazil are not big games?
@@Fandiumthats literally only 6 big games he scored in throughought his whole career. And no. Real was washed when he scored against them, Liverpool and MNU had fkn Neville and Carragher going 1v1 against him😂. Brazil was washed by then, only Ronaldinho,Ze Roberto and Lucio were at their peak, Carlos and Cafu were both around 35yrs old and Ronaldo was already too fat and got sold by Real couple months later.
Also u know what truly big games are? Finals! And guess how many goals he scored in all finals he ever played?? Zero.
@@dzemilmehovic5271 No 2006 Brasil had 2 of the best players in the world in Ronaldinho and Kaka, also prime Adriano before the alcoholic decline, and Robinho. The squad selection to accommodate a declining and injury prone Ronaldo was BS, and the balance in midfield was not good (too much offense and that stupid diamond formation). Politics and poor coaching cost Brasil in 2006. They could and should have beaten France.
This award died 2010. Wesley Sneijder deserved it but the media gave it to Messi. Before Iniesta and Xavi. They at least had a case winning gold in SA and 2nd place in CL. But none of them deserved it. Wesley carried his teams to two finals. And was up against those three in one and still won it. And only barely lost the other. Top goalscorer in a world cup as a midfielder. Since then I don’t even care who won it. It’s a fake award.
You could argue he was Inter's best player and he almost took the FIFA World Cup Golden Ball from Diego Forlan. It was criminal how he wasn't top 3.
See the Milito ranking that year. It's a fraud popularity award
@@user-bi5nw4vp6thow ?
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Wenger holding that cigarette on the manager bank is just a blast from the past lol
unimaginable today haha
Sarri should sign somewhere in the Bundesliga they have no bans on cigarettes in the stadium (you just get blasted by the media, bht that would be the case elsewhere too). The league has no rules for it outside of officially designated ""Family blocks" (obviously) and only TWO of the 56 professional clubs (18+18+20) have a general ban.
Leipzig even assigned Sarri a designated smoking area for his match there a few years ago haha
I think number one is Michael Laudrup then Henry. I hope you will make a video about Laudrup
Thierry Henry ❤️❤️💙💙
CORRECTION NEEDED: Sheva was actually Serie A top scorer in 2003/04 as Milan won the domestic league (n.1 league in Europe then) . That season he also scored the winning goal in the UEFA Super Cup victory over Porto. Based on all of that, clearly his 2004 Ballon d'Or win was well deserved.
guess gildardino, who only scored one goal less than shevchenko should've been in the podium then...
Shevchenko won the league. Gilardino didnt. Henry didn't win anything in 2003 so theres no way he deserved it. In 2004 he was very good in the league when they won but didn't do anything in the other competitions
still gilardino wasn't even considered for the ballon dor@@sheedo1999
Arsenal got further in the Champions League than Milan did that year
@@mcoeif woow...by one round! Henry didn't score a single goal in the quarters.
"soooooo... Listen to this" this words is legendary
People have to remember that Henry wasn’t the main star in those days there were players that were way better than him but he was more of a disruptor who came and disrupted the entire scene with his unorthodox style of playing and scoring goals awards are more sentimental and those who are more established and recognised win awards
All i can say as 43yo spectator...Henry-Trezeguet-Anelka #the greatest trio that never was😂
Henry in his prime was the best forward to watch in the world, period.
As a Manchester United fan, Henry was amazing in the PL but when it came to UCL and actual International competitions he was there but got outshone by Zidane, as for Nedved and Shevchenko winning the Balon D'Or they played in tougher leagues and the former was the reason why Juve won the Scudetto that year and if he played in the final then it would have been a different story, as for Shevchenko, he scored a hattrick against Lazio, scored the decider in the UEFA Super Cup against Porto
Prerequisite for winning the Ballon Dor: Win the League, top scorer, win the CL. top scorer in CL and Star performances in CL that resulted in winning the CL.
Xavi finishing 4th 3rd 3rd 3rd and 5th for ballon dor between 2008-2012 is underrated nowadays
That's arguably better than Messi and Ronaldo peak. A midfielder in that ranks really means he was best.
The Ballon d’or is a hype award. Gerrard and Lampard were the best midfielders from 05-10
Especially 08 Xavi and Sarah’s in finished in the top 10 solely for the euros
A person who controls the midfield can never be ballon do'r. For individual awards, you have to be a game changer, the catalyst in the win.
Henry did enough to win the Ballon D’or if you put all his achievements into 1 season.
@@TrendsWisdom77 my comment and point was that in each Ballon D’or judging period the others players he lost out to did more than him but over an entire football career he did more than most of the others.
For instance it’s like scoring 30 goals per season for 10 seasons but never getting top scorer because in each season other players would score 31 goals. Henry would end up with 300 goals but never the golden boot and over a career can have more goals than the other players who won the golden boot.
As an Arsenal fan, Henry is my favourite player of all time and in the argument for the best premier league player of all time. However, I do need to admit the only thing that marks him down when compared to the other all time greats was his record in cup finals. He has been in multiple for club and country, but did not manage to score in any of them. He has been important in Arsenal's league runs to domestic titles, and scored crucial goals en route to cup finals for club and country, but for a player who is regarded among the all time greats, it is quite astonishing how he he has not scored in any of cup finals he has been in.
Brooooo for the 6th time
Plzzz do a video of victor osiehem ❤❤🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Lewandowski says Henry was his role model.
nedved deserves it.
this season in juve was very good.
maybe in 2004 for Henry…
sheva was playing in the best league in the world and had won the CL season prior ... Sheva >>>>>>> henry
@@MarkPereira15winning UCL>>>>>>>being invincible
@@MarkPereira15 2006 was his best chance if arsenal won that final at least. You saying invincibles like they were the only ones to do it. On top of that the PL wasn't that great at that time. He was just unlucky playing for an overhyped club in an overhyped league making everyone think he deserved it. He played for a relatively small club against relatively overrated teams. Henry, mean no disrespect, played against the likes of Ferdinand, Neville, Terry etc and they would be tying Maldini's, Nesta's, Cannavaro's, Cafu's, Zanetti's shoelaces. The PL is the greatest league today. But they scammed everyone into believing that it was great in the 90s & 2000s. Good marketing strategy tho I'll give you that.
@@teddymeister95 I have a big respect for the Italian football and for the legends of it and mostly for the defenders which are clearly the best in history, but Henry for sure in that period of time would haven't have a problem against the players that you mentioned, and we have examples his performance against Italy in the Euro's 2000 final where was turning Nesta inside out, and trashing Zanneti's Inter with a 5-1.
@@tintoialexandru6959 I never disputed the fact that he would play great against those defenders but no one ever saw him do so at Juve. Ancelotti should be blamed for that but you can’t tell everyone that he deserved a ballon dor for hypotheticals unfortunately. I’m sure he would’ve thrived at Serie A if he was given a proper chance. But on the years that Nedved & Sheva won he wasn’t the best in those seasons outside of your league. Is Henry a much better player than Sheva overall? 100% but they don’t award these players every 5 seasons or so. Again, I’m saying he was unlucky. He played for a club that only achieved their best in your league and even in your league you weren’t always the best. I’ve seen Ibra not win the ballon dor or the champions league, yet Sheva won both. Inzaghi won the CL & a WC. Don’t mean he’s anywhere near Ibra. Likewise Henry deserves all the praise but on a logical sense, as the video proved, he wasn’t as deserving for the ballon dor in those particular years.
In the current football-lite landscape, reflecting on the past is en vogue like never before. Recent discourse has seemingly focused on who was deserving, and who wasn’t, of that shiny beacon of individuality that so many modern players crave, the Ballon d'Or.
There is an Anglo-centric, or perhaps a more Arsenal-centric view, that Thierry Henry was somehow robbed of winning the Ballon d’Or in the earliest part of the 2000s. The pro-Henry camp duly acknowledges that because of tournament-bias, the 2002 award was rightfully Ronaldo’s, as was Fabio Cannavaro’s four years later. Furthermore, Ronaldinho’s 2005 win doesn’t seem to be up for debate given that he was indisputably the greatest player on the planet. No, the prevailing rhetoric seemingly centres on 2003 and 2004. It is then they believe the greater miscarriage of justice was committed.
An element of snobbery creeps in here; the pro-Henry camp is almost affronted by the fact that the winners of the award in those years, Pavel Nedved and Andriy Shevchenko, finished ahead of the Frenchman. This is despite the fact that the pair are two of the finest players ever to emerge from Eastern Europe, but are perhaps not considered all-time greats compared to Cannavaro, Ronaldo and Ronaldinho.
Henry came closest in 2003, when he finished second on the podium behind Nedved, losing out by some 62 points. The stick to bait the Czech with is his mundane stats compared to Henry’s in 2002/03. Let’s be clear, Henry’s statistics that season border on the simply ludicrous: 24 goals and 20 assists from 37 league games is barely plausible, in fact it’s never been repeated in the Premier League. Henry was involved in over 50% of the Gunners’ 85 league goals that season as they finished second behind Manchester United which is an astounding figure.
Yet a direct comparison between Henry and Nedved isn’t viable given how they operated in different roles. Nedved’s stats don’t even come close to matching Henry’s in 02/03, but the measuring stick for winning the Ballon d’Or in non-tournament years - particularly in this era - was the Champions League, and it’s here where Nedved trumps Henry.
Nedved had been deployed as a left midfielder in his first season at Juventus, but was shifted to play behind strikers David Trezeguet and Alessandro Del Piero in 2002/03. This brought out the best in Nedved, who saved his finest performances for Europe’s grandest nights. He was involved in two of Juve’s three goals against Barcelona at the quarter-final stage, netting a crucial away goal with the tie delicately poised at the Camp Nou.
Nedved’s performance against Real Madrid in the semi-final second leg is the game that effectively cemented his Ballon d’Or win. Madrid, then at the high point of the first Galactico era, and just before the balance of the side became erratically skewed, were torn to pieces by Nedved’s relentless running and ability to ghost in behind the lines.
Again, he was involved in two of Juve’s three strikes that night, including his stunning volley in the 73rd minute that was the piece de resistance of an emphatic individual display. Nedved’s seminal performance was the sort that Henry simply never produced in Europe for Arsenal that season, or in any during his eight-year stint in north London. Henry scored seven times in the Champions League that season, but Arsenal failed to go beyond the second group stage.
The modern-day appraisal of Shevchenko is viewed through the prism of his spell in the Premier League with Chelsea. Nine league goals in two problematic seasons when he was past his prime and struggling for fitness has given license for many to pour scorn over his Ballon d’Or win.
The call for Henry to be awarded the 2004 title is underpinned by his pivotal role in ‘The Invincibles’ side that won the league without losing a single game. Henry was undoubtedly at his swashbuckling best in 2003-04, scoring 30 goals and providing nine assists in the Premier League.
The Ukrainian, in contrast, rattled in 24 goals in 32 Serie A games as Milan won the title for the first time in five years. This was at a time when the sheen hadn’t completely worn off Serie A’s global reputation, and in the post-Gabriel Batistuta landscape, Shevchenko was unquestionably Europe’s deadliest strike
Shevchenko didn’t win more, didn’t score more goals, and contributed less in assists,” objected the impartial Arsene Wenger in the wake of the Shevchenko’s victory. That might be statistically true, but again, with Europe being the barometer, Henry falls short. It’s not just how many goals you score, but also when you score them.
Both Arsenal and Milan exited the Champions League at the same stage in 2003-04 - the quarter-finals - but Shevchenko scored more goals in the knockout rounds than Henry (three to two). Furthermore, in the four-year period from 2002-06, when both were contesting for the Ballon d’Or regularly, Henry only scored five times from 13 games in the knockout rounds, compared to Shevchenko’s 11 in 20.
Wenger is of the opinion that due to being French and France Football being the creators of the prize, Henry was held to a much higher standard than the eventual winners (Wenger of course conveniently forgetting that the award is voted for by journalists across the world, and not handpicked by the magazine). Yet the simple fact is that despite being one of the world’s best during the early-to-mid ‘00s, he was never the best.
Henry’s inability to transfer his league form into Europe (or for France, for that matter) is what ultimately denied him a Ballon d’Or. Henry never stamped his authority on a high-end European night in the manner Nedved did in 2003, or continually score in crunch knockout games like Shevchenko. Kaka, for example, won the 2007 award for essentially playing extraordinarily well in a handful of games, all of which happened to be in Europe.
So, in the end, was Henry wrongfully denied a Ballon d’Or? The answer is no.
He's still one of my favourite players ever.
Could you please do a video about an African player called Abutrika he is one of the best players in Egypts history and some consider him better than Salah I hope you give his story a chance and if you won't just say please.
I've seen you consistently comment on so many videos, bro. I hope you eventually get that Aboutrika video. Your consistency is admirable.
Paolo Maldini is the greatest player to never win it, he came third three times.
as good as Henry was i don`t think he was ever robbed of the ballon d`or.
"Paulo Maldini is the greatest player to never win it"
Probably the truest statement I've ever read regarding football discussion 👍
Pls make video about sergio ramos
I remember in that champions league final with Arsenal he was playing injured and had a chance that a fully fit Henry would have gobbled up. If Arsenal had one that year he probably would have won it, but I that was the closest he got, it seems you have to win either the Champions League , World Cup or European Championship on top of a peak season to be considered
Balon D'or wasn't a big deal in England back in those days, it was barely mentioned in the media when Owen won it and I couldn't tell you any of the winners around that time period without looking them up online. Definitely more of an important award for Europeans or younger fans, I was 25 in 2003 and we didn't even discuss it or cared about who won
So why it became mainstream because of it ?
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@@lexkanyima2195obviously because of Ronaldo and Messi fanboys arguing and using Balondors as arguments week in week out. Since they have obv biggest fanbases then everyone will become more aware of it-as it happened
yesssirrrski thiery henry is a legend
Yessirski?
he is a legend and i appreciate him getting recognition @@ozziey52
Henry, Ribery, Sneijder, Xavi, Iniesta, Maldini, Puyol, Eto'o, Drogba. These players should had won it.
Can you please do a video on the one and only mo salah? thanks
The best for me is Alessandro Del Piero no doubts.
Henry was top baller & defo best in the 🌎.. Fifa are criminals to award Nedved in 02-03 & just as shocking to disregard Henry & Arsenal Invincible season & award Ballon D'or to Shevchenko 🏆
Nedved carried Juve, beating Galacticos Madrid in an almost perfect UCL Semi Finals. Any football enthusiast wondering what could happen if Nedved play in the Final against Milan that season. Juve was considered the better team than Milan, dominating Serie A under Marcelo Lippi. Nedved played a major role in that team. A hard working, tireless attacking midfielder like i never see before.
Sure Henry scored like crazy, conquered Premier League that same season. One of the best if not the best striker in Europe that year. But seriously, back then the Premier League was not the best league like today. Serie A way more competitive, it's considered as the toughest league in the world. Besides, Arsenal didn't go that far in the Champions League like Juve.
I’m a Man U fan I was gutted when Henry left the prem the same way I was when Ronaldo left I just knew you don’t see that kind of player in every era thanks Theiry for all those years of entertainment you gave me guy left me in awe every week 😂
Nedvěd won it convincingly and dominantly with a margin of 62 points. Compared to him:
Cannavaro won it over Buffon by 49 points,
Weah over Klinsmann by 36,
Owen over Raul by 36,
Shevchenko over Deco by 36,
R9 over Roberto Carlos by 24,
Van Basten over Stoichkov by 18,
Figo over Zidane by 16
and Sammer over R9 by just 1 freaking point!!!
Does anyone think they were robbed? Absolutely not!
Just because the British media machinery is the most influential in Europe, because PL fans are the most numerous in the world and because Arsenal fans are the loudest and most frustrated fans in the world it doesn't mean they are right.
Nedved was a great player who deserved it
the guy didnt even wanted to play upfront but became a bagsman. so much pure athleticism and talent
I think we can all agree he was one of the best EPL players of all time but he was never the greatest in the world. I dont think thats horrible and i dont think he is losing sleep over it.
Not ‘one of’ he was definitely the best
@@Kaijufied he definitely was not the best. Statistically, he was, but you don't measure greatness by goal contributions. It helps bur it isn't the deciding factor. And the points made in this video told you why exactly he didn't deserve the BDO in those seasons.
make a video on zamorano pls
“Im talking about hieyy hewny.”😂😂
Nedved and schevchenko winning was just simple bribary 😂
What a sad yet epic story for a fellow Frenchman.
history has showed us that Henry is one of the greatest of all time. He’s spoken about all the time everywhere
My favourite player of all time
make a video on mario kempus
That UCL Final against Barcelona was painful to watch
w video
Definitely puts it all into perspective. Wish more fans had a more complete view on football. English media has swayed the world to believe the Premier League has the best football, but it's just the most entertaining league. The rest of Europe weren't deluded.
*BUT*
that doesn't mean on the field Thierry was not still playing some of the best football and he was electric but unfortunately he couldn't bring that Arsenal team more trophies and it gave him the issue Harry Kane has right now.
I still cry about that 2006 champions league loss to Barca to this day. I remember Lehman gettin sent off. We still took the lead and held on to the end but 🫣
This video did NOT do Thiery Henry justice.
Xavi, Iniesta and Torres.....not to forget.
Great player, legend one of the most elegant player to ever play the game but people overhype him he was great but not as great like people say 2 leagues in 8 seasons, barely played in 1998 wc win, carried by zidane 2000 euros, 2002 wc zidane was injured it was time for Henry to lead the team and show how great he is france didn't even qualify for knockout stages, 2006 wc france was struggling to qualify for the world cup until and old out of shape retired zidane decided to come out of retirement and help them qualify for the wc and take france to the finals, very good with small teams but struggled against big teams, never showed up when it was time to shine like finals and semi finals or when his country needed him the most, one champions league carried by messi etoo xavi and iniesta, back in the early 00s people compared him to schevchenko, raul, van nisteroy, now people talk about him like he is on the same level of zidane,R9,Messi,cr7
I'm an Arsenal fan till i die been an Arsenal sinse 1993, Henry was my favorite player but I've got to go with facts over feeling
Zidane was the opposite. He only showed up in big games
The Confed Cup of 2003 was the best tournament Henry played with France
Not surprising as zidane wasn't there. He shun brightest. Top scorer and best player of the tournament
Snejder when the Inter treble and 2nd place in world cup had to win the ballon d'or as well.
I come to believe that Ballon D'Or doesn't matter. At the end, we will remember the iconic players more. There are more people remember how Henry terrorize Premier League now than people who remember Nedved and Shevchenko in Italy.
I was totally suprised....
Lewa and Henry are to me the two biggest upsets when it comes to this award
Bergkamp, nuff said
Henry is my all time favourite player and Nedved would always be up there too but Henry 110% should have won this Balon D'or and definitely more !!!!
One correction. Henry scored golden goal in 2003 the FIFA confederation cup final with which he led France to the trophy and became the best player of the tournament
He deserves more