Thanks Phil, I got Jims book in 1969 one of many greats. I would have wished you just did Single Bass with Hi Hat...but Iam sure I might be alone on that. Cheers!
I just learned something from you and I love it! The interaction and trading of information from and with other drummers is always appreciated. Thank you!
Thank you for this. I have this book and as a self-teaching beginner, I am going to open it up. It's hard to jump in without other human input, at least for me... your videos are appreciated.
Thank you! I try to keep an open mind and enjoy what I am doing. Although discipline is a part of our life long learning process please remember to enjoy the evolution process one step at a time. We can only be who we are within our own capabilities, so try not to get frustrated and be patient with the progress stages. Have fun!
This is incredible phil thank you what a great video. I have the bookthough i cant find the exercise, please can you let me know which page and which exercise number it is😊
Hello millie 179. Thank you for your comment and questions. I have Ted's book with the number 17308 on the top left corner of the cover. The reason that I mention this is because I have seen another version so the page numbers that I give might not match. Having said that, the first and second excerpts that I play in my video is found on pages 33 and 34, the first example is line 1 on both pages as is the second example is line 2 of both pages. When I play example 2 in my video I play the syncopation properly but I later discovered that when I demo what to do with it I repeated example 1. My humble apologies for the mix up. I hope that this helps answer you questions. Thanks, Phil
@fourwalldrummers Hi Phil, firstly thank you for such a fast and detailed reply, I really do appreciate it. Yes I noticed (being a drum nerd that I am) the difference in the two examples..no worries I have spent this afternoon watching all your videos and find them truly enlightening, I've been in love with drumsxand drumming for 40 years or more now,and these ideas just blew me away. What a truly superb teacher and player you are.Happy Christmas 🎄
Hi, this is Paul of FourWallDrummers. Here is the link for the syncopation pages I posted for Phil's video. www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/r0c6esr5mklzi5l895b85/Syncopation-Notation.pdf?rlkey=ogpp0j74gyey6l78i79p46jqd&dl=0
@@millie179 My humble gratitude for your reply and support. So much work and preparation go into making these videos on all of our parts, so it is wonderful hearing that our efforts are appreciated. Happy Christmas right back 'atcha. Phil
Merci Paul je travaille sur le livre de ted reed possible de m'envoyer les pdf de tes exercices je trouve que c'est tres intéressant dit aussi les conditions ,tres bonnes forces et continuation
Sorry for the delay in responding. I've uploaded the notation to Dropbox. It's the same as what's in the video. www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/r0c6esr5mklzi5l895b85/Syncopation-Notation.pdf?rlkey=ogpp0j74gyey6l78i79p46jqd&st=yrs1gqb8&dl=0
I have a question(and many other others) but this one in particular is concerning left hand accents. I use traditional grip and at higher bpms rely on my thumb to generate speed, this is something I learned watching greyson nekrutman years back. While it does work exceptionally well for low effort high speed singles it makes it very difficult to insert accents into. Due to the thumb being the only finger used. What would be your advice on this? It’s bothered me for ages.
Great question. I will shed some light by saying that there are many different techniques applied to traditional grip. Greyson is incredible with with his methods however, they may not work for you as they do not work for me. I experienced thumb fatigue with that approach. My suggestion is to try using fingers, wrist and arms in a balanced state. Cradle the stick with the top of your left hand using your fore finger and middle finger in a loose fulcrum with your arm in a relaxed state. Less is more. Let the stick do the work via natural rebound and Moeller method technique. Years ago I was at a Jim Chapin clinic ( who studied under Sanford Moeller) which it had an immense impact on me that greatly improved my playing ability. Let your fulcrum breathe in order to stay relaxed. I explain this in my video "motion versus effort" on four wall drummers. Watch Dick Cully's videos on Buddy Rich's techniques as he explains in detail the single stroke roll. WOW! I was blown away! I hope that this info was helpful for you. Take care!
@@philrosatothe interesting thing about adopting greysons technique(for better or for worse) is that it does work for the most part. I get good control over my speed. Maybe I’d have to collect some footage of my own technique but if you look at greyson, the sticks are only supported by the fulcrum between the thumb and hand when he’s playing at full speed. This creates a lack of stability with accents but it’s been about 3 years of development on this technique I’d rather not abandon. I know dick cully but should revisit his videos. Funny that you mention jim chapin as well, I was just watching a youtube reupload of a vhs he did. Pretty incredible that you got to see the man in person haha. Thanks for the advice, as someone who’s never been formally taught it’s greatly appreciated. Hope to chat again soon.
@@sherpFPS By all means don't abandon Greyson's technique but also explore other options to see what fits best for you. I had the pleasure of seeing Buddy Rich live at least 30 times at different venues, I also got my picture with him while I received his autograph at the CNE bandshell. He cracked his 18 inch left crash cymbal at an Ontario Place performance. I was lucky enough to get that cymbal because a friend of mine worked at Long & McQuade which supplied Buddy his new cymbal of which I covered the cost. In essence I bought Buddy a cymbal! The cracked cymbal with all of his finger prints is beautifully framed in my drum studio along with the press pass issued to me from L&M for that performance. My point is that Buddy was and still is a HUGE influence in my playing. During a performance at Seneca College two of us brought full sized binoculars and sat next to each other in order to see how Buddy held sticks and and used his fingers, arms and wrists in order to learn his technique. When he was playing he glanced up at us with binoculars focused on him and he did a total double take and smirked. It was sooooo cool! Learn what you can from as many drummers and musicians as possible. All the best with your drumming, Phil
Nice, sounds great, thank you
Thank you!
Thanks Phil, I got Jims book in 1969 one of many greats. I would have wished you just did Single Bass with Hi Hat...but Iam sure I might be alone on that. Cheers!
I just learned something from you and I love it! The interaction and trading of information from and with other drummers is always appreciated. Thank you!
Cool stuff. Thx for sharing. Greetings from Koblenz 😊 Christoph
Thank you for your kind words. All of the best to you!
Magnificent, Phil! Love the way you broke it down--and it seems I'm not the only one saying that! 👏
That means a lot coming from you Lex!
Thank you for this. I have this book and as a self-teaching beginner, I am going to open it up. It's hard to jump in without other human input, at least for me... your videos are appreciated.
Thank you! I try to keep an open mind and enjoy what I am doing. Although discipline is a part of our life long learning process please remember to enjoy the evolution process one step at a time. We can only be who we are within our own capabilities, so try not to get frustrated and be patient with the progress stages. Have fun!
that was mind expanding. I really like how you broke it down into 4 bar phrases too!
Many thanks for your comment. The possibilities are endless with what can be achieved by thinking "outside of the box"
This is incredible phil thank you what a great video. I have the bookthough i cant find the exercise, please can you let me know which page and which exercise number it is😊
Hello millie 179. Thank you for your comment and questions. I have Ted's book with the number 17308 on the top left corner of the cover. The reason that I mention this is because I have seen another version so the page numbers that I give might not match.
Having said that, the first and second excerpts that I play in my video is found on pages 33 and 34, the first example is line 1 on both pages as is the second example is line 2 of both pages.
When I play example 2 in my video I play the syncopation properly but I later discovered that when I demo what to do with it I repeated example 1. My humble apologies for the mix up.
I hope that this helps answer you questions.
Thanks,
Phil
@fourwalldrummers
Hi Phil, firstly thank you for such a fast and detailed reply, I really do appreciate it. Yes I noticed (being a drum nerd that I am) the difference in the two examples..no worries
I have spent this afternoon watching all your videos and find them truly enlightening, I've been in love with drumsxand drumming for 40 years or more now,and these ideas just blew me away. What a truly superb teacher and player you are.Happy Christmas 🎄
Hi, this is Paul of FourWallDrummers. Here is the link for the syncopation pages I posted for Phil's video.
www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/r0c6esr5mklzi5l895b85/Syncopation-Notation.pdf?rlkey=ogpp0j74gyey6l78i79p46jqd&dl=0
@fourwalldrummers
Thank you so much Paul,a challenge but one I'm looking forward too.really appreciate your reply 😊
@@millie179 My humble gratitude for your reply and support. So much work and preparation go into making these videos on all of our parts, so it is wonderful hearing that our efforts are appreciated.
Happy Christmas right back 'atcha.
Phil
SMOKIN LESSON THANK YOU SO MUCH
You're welcome!
Merci Paul je travaille sur le livre de ted reed possible de m'envoyer les pdf de tes exercices je trouve que c'est tres intéressant dit aussi les conditions ,tres bonnes forces et continuation
Sorry for the delay in responding. I've uploaded the notation to Dropbox. It's the same as what's in the video. www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/r0c6esr5mklzi5l895b85/Syncopation-Notation.pdf?rlkey=ogpp0j74gyey6l78i79p46jqd&st=yrs1gqb8&dl=0
That was awesome as usual Phil!
Your comment is greatly appreciated. Thank you!
Brilliant, Phil!
I have a question(and many other others) but this one in particular is concerning left hand accents. I use traditional grip and at higher bpms rely on my thumb to generate speed, this is something I learned watching greyson nekrutman years back. While it does work exceptionally well for low effort high speed singles it makes it very difficult to insert accents into. Due to the thumb being the only finger used. What would be your advice on this? It’s bothered me for ages.
Great question. I will shed some light by saying that there are many different techniques applied to traditional grip. Greyson is incredible with with his methods however, they may not work for you as they do not work for me. I experienced thumb fatigue with that approach.
My suggestion is to try using fingers, wrist and arms in a balanced state. Cradle the stick with the top of your left hand using your fore finger and middle finger in a loose fulcrum with your arm in a relaxed state. Less is more. Let the stick do the work via natural rebound and Moeller method technique. Years ago I was at a Jim Chapin clinic ( who studied under Sanford Moeller) which it had an immense impact on me that greatly improved my playing ability. Let your fulcrum breathe in order to stay relaxed.
I explain this in my video "motion versus effort" on four wall drummers. Watch Dick Cully's videos on Buddy Rich's techniques as he explains in detail the single stroke roll. WOW! I was blown away!
I hope that this info was helpful for you.
Take care!
@@philrosatothe interesting thing about adopting greysons technique(for better or for worse) is that it does work for the most part. I get good control over my speed. Maybe I’d have to collect some footage of my own technique but if you look at greyson, the sticks are only supported by the fulcrum between the thumb and hand when he’s playing at full speed. This creates a lack of stability with accents but it’s been about 3 years of development on this technique I’d rather not abandon. I know dick cully but should revisit his videos. Funny that you mention jim chapin as well, I was just watching a youtube reupload of a vhs he did. Pretty incredible that you got to see the man in person haha. Thanks for the advice, as someone who’s never been formally taught it’s greatly appreciated. Hope to chat again soon.
@@sherpFPS By all means don't abandon Greyson's technique but also explore other options to see what fits best for you.
I had the pleasure of seeing Buddy Rich live at least 30 times at different venues, I also got my picture with him while I received his autograph at the CNE bandshell. He cracked his 18 inch left crash cymbal at an Ontario Place performance. I was lucky enough to get that cymbal because a friend of mine worked at Long & McQuade which supplied Buddy his new cymbal of which I covered the cost. In essence I bought Buddy a cymbal!
The cracked cymbal with all of his finger prints is beautifully framed in my drum studio along with the press pass issued to me from L&M for that performance. My point is that Buddy was and still is a HUGE influence in my playing. During a performance at Seneca College two of us brought full sized binoculars and sat next to each other in order to see how Buddy held sticks and and used his fingers, arms and wrists in order to learn his technique.
When he was playing he glanced up at us with binoculars focused on him and he did a total double take and smirked. It was sooooo cool!
Learn what you can from as many drummers and musicians as possible.
All the best with your drumming,
Phil
Classy 👍
Thank you Bonhamesque!
Excelente !! Muchas gracias !!
Top secret? Oh please..
Sizzle sticking? Oh please...
If you're nice, we'll let you in on the secret.
Great stuff