This is a NEW DIMENSION! || Wavesfactory Quantum
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INDEX:
00:00 - Intro
00:47 - What is Quantum?
02:27 - The U.I
03:11- Testing
11:23 - Conclusion
13:52 - Disclosure
14:10 - Support me! - Навчання та стиль
Bitwig way: place two transient controls in an FX-Layer, lower the gain on the attack in one and the gain of sustain in the other. Without anything added it sounds transparent. Then add effects to your liking to each (Mid-Side, Multiband, Dynamic sidechain EQ, use your imagination) and maybe go wild with the modulators on top of this.
What I like the most with it is using on Kick with compressor on sustain and auto make up, then you just lower the threshold and you get a very Boomy kick, but still sounding natural.
Interesting. Thanks for the run thru. Happy New Year.
There is also plugin called transgressor from BOZ Digital Labs, which is the precursor of this kind of processing.
This was released before Split EQ - I think I bought it a around mid year. I haven’t updated it since the first download from back then - but it had some weird clicking artifacts that kinda put me off. Unlike Split EQ which was silky smooth. I like this because it’s a good one stop shop for sound design - but I probably wouldn’t put on master ;) but each to their own. Also I’m a big fan of Darude’s elctro funk phase in his career.
Did the weird clicking stop after updating?
The transient processor is not that good compared to Elevate and other ones on the market.
Lots of click artifacts when I tried quantum.
Yeah, clicks here too
@@saricubra2867 E L E V A T E
Just want to say that I really love your videos and how much of your personality you put into these! Hope to meet you some day!
I got the Eventide split EQ and very happy with it. It is still on sale right now for $99 as of posting this.
Very cool plugin. The name of the track is "patiently waiting for autogain in a Sandstorm" by the Darrude... of course.
dude I freakin love your videos, you give helpful information and the way you review plugins is so funny lol "It looks like an iPad... like the shape of it so... that's good" lmao, definitely worth subscribing
If you wanted to use Pro-L2 then just duplicate the track and solo the attack and sustain separately. Bam! Any processing afterwards is whatever plugins you want.
Yes it would be amazing using our own plugins there !!
You can do this in your daw with a gate for example. If you do one channel with the gate and the other with the reversed or flipped gate and then just mess around with the threshold you will get a very similar result.
Beautifully captured recordings.
really great idea in general! inspiring me hard.
don't need a demo, wanna create it by myself!
Whytseeeeeeeee ! See you next year, ty for all the work in 2021!
Thank you i missed that one.. always used spl attacker plus
"This will be my last snake oil video"
*sweats*
"-for this year, of course."
*wipes brow*
Reaper JSFX: LT Transient Splitter is what you're looking for :)
Have a happy and a healthy holidays
So... Blue Cat Audio Patchwork + Some Really Good Transient Designer = basically this with the ability to load external plugins? Or am I missing something?
Fijne feestdagen en een gelukkig nieuwjaar en tot volgend jaar dan maar.
Hey Wietze!
Could you do a video on the tc electronics vss4 hd reverb? Apparently it's a mastering reverb which is something I've not heard of before.
Groetjes uit Drenthe & fijne feestdagen! 👋
Treating attack and sustain separately might cause me to experiment even if I don't buy this plugin. May your season be jolly!
Update: My favorite result so far was processing the sustain portion of drums with a sweeping resonant filter. The result is much more usable than putting the entire drum sound through the same filter.
Just did . Kill all of the attack on a reverb send . The best trick I ever discovered in my life so far .
@@heyro2680 is like placing a transient designer after the reverb?
@@heyro2680 something like gating the attack portion? or where it differs?
@@heyro2680 Damn that's a great idea, thanks!
There are multiple free plugins that can do spkit the signal into transient and sustain signals. Then you can just send each part to a different mixer track and use whichever plugins you like to process the sound. Or you can easily make a Patcher preset if you use FL.
To me the advantage is that you see everything in one place. You don't have to load up an eq, then a widener, etc. on two sends. That said, I can only see myself using some things this way, mostly eq for emphasis of transient or tone/body.
I don’t know if it was on my end(youtube listing on headsets)I heard a lot of noise.Have a great New Year!!!
You could use the split eq to do something like this by soloing the transients and processing it and then the same for the body. Interesting.
Can't you have two instances of the same track with the plugin soloed for transient and sustain and use your own plugins in the effects chain?
“Looks a bit like the iPad, like that’s the same shape… that’s good”😂😂 you’re so funny without even trying
For those of you proposing to do this with a transient splitter, outboard effects, and then mixing the two signals back together, what about the phase issues he mentioned? I can see how a plug-in could account for them internally, but I suspect that once each signal emerges from the splitter that signal has been logically severed from its origin, so would naïvely mixing them back together actually work nicely?
What would the routing look like if I wanted to process the attack and sustain separately without this plugin ?
Before Split EQ, and before Quantum, Eventide released Physion, that is similar to this plugin.
exactly
The difference between Quantum and Physion is the effect chain, you can't put more than one effect for Physion's transient and sustain/tonal part.
And before Split EQ there was BozDigital Transgressor that was more or less doing the same thing.
@@saricubra2867 aha, indeed.
I just realised yesterday that I have Newfangled Audio Punctuate, part of the elevate bundle, and it actually does the same thing and is sold by... Eventide 😂
can this thing send the sustain and attack to different channels? that would be nice
Perhaps use track send to a gate and append any other plug-in.
Know what else splits transients and sustains (as well as direct/ reflected sound)? Sonible Frei:Raum (& Entropy EQ.)
I want similar functions for a de esser. Detect sibilance and put some Chorus or smth on it
Happy Birthday!
Omg this thing amazing
Couldn’t you use your own plugins in a less direct way by duplicating the track, and then cutting out all the transients out of one and all of the sustain out of the other, then you have the isolated sustain and transient signals on separate faders and you can apply whatever processing you want to just one, or both in how ever much, and whatever order you want to just one or the other signal… the benefit here yo this vs. split eq is that I think splitting the signal onto two tracks like I described above can be really useful in some situations where you want to do some more extreme sound design or repair, where split EQ is probably more convenient to grab if you just want to make some quick edits. If your kick needs more punch, setting up a whole instance of quantum properly could take a few minutes longer than just grabbing split eq and cranking up the low transients. However, if you want to take the sound of a guitarist strumming against their muted strings, and morph it into a complex new percussion element, getting to completely separate; and add plugins to an isolated transient channel could open some doors that split EQ only starts to touch on
i don't see any screws on the UI, how does it stay on the screen? and i don't see any rust or blemishes either, so this can't possibly sound vintage. Hard pass for me.
Either I'm projecting due to having had a bottle of wine, or Wytse has had a few in this video. Will be interesting to review this tomorrow :D
You could
1) get a "attack" part with a gate
2) and combine it with original with flipped phase to get the sustain part
3) ...and process them separately. Flip the sustain parts polarity back before combining.
Phase shouldn't be big big issue as parts are not having mutual content. I will need to try that out!
edit: After quick testing it seems, that sustain part easily get "clicky" sounds for some reason (maybe gate is not fast enough) and as with the gates it's sensitive to volume changes. Maybe that's useful trick anyway.
Ha, I've actually been experimenting with this for the last few days. Instead of a gate though, I used an envelope follower - changing the attack of the follower dictates how much time the transient takes. I wonder how different it would be to use a gate, thanks for the idea! As it stands right now, my experiment behaves really oddly with volume changes, and even soloing just the sustain is louder than the original signal...
Why do you say you need to invert the sustain first? Since you subtract out the inverted "attack" you get only the sustain left, but without any phase change.
@@Sengin31 yeah you're right, just had the idea and didn't think it through.
Where can i find the bundle you are talking about?
You could just send the audio from the track you want to process to two new tracks, each with an instance of this plugin. Then, solo the transients in one instance and the sustain in the other. Then you can add whatever plugins you want after that.
Wow really good idea!
Also you can do that with split eq to
you can also do that with soothe / spiff
And yo can do that with transgressor or any transient designer really
@@DJayFreeDoo Not many transient designers have a solo attack and sustain function. A very few of them really.
@whiteseastudio I've got the FF Pro L1 and L2 - Where is the 'multi stage limiting' you speak of Sir?
This track reminds me of the intro of kush after hours with ubk :)
Do a video about the top best free plugins fx for mixing and mastering
In my use of the demo there were a lot of clicks and pops. Cool idea though.
Please review Kirchhoff EQ! It seems like the definitive Pro Q3 killer!
I second Gianluca's request for a review of the Kirchhoff EQ
If you like an possibility of using all vsts and mix them and create new instruments with the effects of your library try VIP 3! Its the kind of vst you are looking for! :) Greetings Julius
had me at the first part there bro
8:04 what is that pictue in the bottom right?
Merry Christmas to y'all! 🎅🎄
Did you read about this in a comment on white noises video comparing sonible entropy to split eq?
Which Melda plugin are you reffering to?
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Isn’t this just like Eventide Physion? 🤔 Which is great btw, but was released around 4-5 yrs ago (then called Fission if I’m not wrong).
No bitcrush? no combfilter? no transient triggered envelopes? to control the effects like FF Saturn?
i do not undestand transient tonal on split eq transient are up in frequency spectrum than tonal information here is opposite position attack transient are down of sustain tonal why??
The trick they are missing is not having a separate output for the transient and the sustain portion. Yes we can do it with 2 separate instances identical on discrete channels, but thats not ideal.
I demoed this and the reverb is not to my taste, and most the fx seemed to be the achilles heal. If I could have sent each part to a bus they'd have had my money.
How would that be routed from a single plugin to two channels?
You must be able to route the audio out to separate busses like in battery or kontact etc. Or you would have to make it like stutter edit so it's an instrument that recieves audio in and has routing on the output.
M-XMAS and Happy NY :)
Can you please do a snake oil on a plugin called PANCZ by a guy named oversampled.
I believe Its a multiband transient shaper, clipper and limiter in one.
Well, the sample track used for testing is obviously Darude's Sandstorm. ;~)
3:19 Sea Lion ... by OTE
Will you review KNOCK by DECAP ?
I'd like to have your opinion on this drum bus pluggin :)
Dying to know which Melda plug you use
the song : White sand beach from The Corrals !
This plugin has a really cool idea. Unfortunantely no plugin company will ever allow 3rd party plugins to be loaded into their framework, so we're stuck with Wavesfactory's own algorithms. That is, unless the major DAW manufacturers bring this concept into their software. What would be REALLY cool, is that if Reaper, Logic, Studio One, Pro Tools etc. brought this kind of a plugin 'shell' into their user interface, where you could load ANY plugin into either the attack or sustain portion of the signal. That could actually catch on, too. I mean, the primary income source for most of these companies are other than plugins, after all.
@Wytse You do know about Meta-plugin from DDMF, don't you? I just wanted to remind you of that because you said one plugin to load others into it. Well, that'd be your thing then.
Routing to split transient and sustain signals?
*laughs in Studio One's splitter*
On a more serious note, I don't think any of the transient shapers I have can go to -inf so I still have some bleed on both channels, but SPLIT-EQ did open my eyes to some fun sound design experimentation.
I haven't tried this yet, but UVI drum replacer can also help split your signal in some interesting ways for anyone who has it and is interested in trying new stuff.
I dont own Studio One but Isisnt that just for frequency based splits? Quantum kind of splits the "hits" into two parts length wise, like manually cutting a kick's transient and separiting it from the tail.
@@D-One SO does parallel, stereo and mid/side, and frequency splits, but you can make a parallel split and load up plugins to split into transients and tails yourself.
Currently I'm still using a regular transient shaper, but I wouldn't use that for mixing and mastering purposes (too much bleed between transient and tail) , but for sound design it's pretty useful.
I'm thinking of just getting split eq, that should allow me to get cleaner splits of the two.
@@AndreasR86 Ok but parallel and frquency crossover other different topics.Which plugins do the split lenght wise that you're refereng to? Legit question, Im looking for something that does this.
Let me guess, the Melda Plugin he mentioned he uses is MUtility
Better than a „Dump Transient Detection“ 😂
Transgressor 2 is also awesome
I know, it might prove interesting to run both and see if they enhance each other in the mix.
i could use this on a kick drum, yeah
10:25 why does the mouse pointer suddenly become huge here?
It's a MAC thing
melda production has done it way before anyone could think
This is another smart tool to improve our mixes.
I don't see any screws on the UI.
Load Split Eq into the attack section of Quantum to break the universe.
got me right at the start like shit dude I love your videos haha ❤️
Why would you want to pitch shift the attack?
Did he really just use all the things useful for the sustain on attack and vice versa? lol
It was released before split EQ :)
I know which melda plugin you use... my dude out here doing phase alignment with MFlangerMB
It’s the same as Boz Labs Transgressor.
FL Gang can do all this + tons of more with Patcher and Transient processor.
Thank you for your vids, and have a great new year everybody :°)
2:14 or you can use Kilohearts Plugins. Stackable, Seriell or parrallel processing with Snap Heap or frequency based with Multipass. Great and easy tools to build almost every plugin out there with the inlcuded 'snapins' like transientshaper, eq, freq. shift, comp, dist, ... and like 15 more. ;-) best toolbox ever
yeah Multipass has become my go to for splitted fx chains. you can do so much cool stuff with that and all the snapins
i never have patience to demo i just watch your review then buy or not 😂
You should checkout VIP 3. it can scan all your vst banks and there you can create instruments with your library and all effects saved in banks and even keywords like keys mellow pad atmospheric or cinemtaic choir and cutom labels.
is this better then Spiff?
This has been around for a while. Before SplitEQ.
You can build your own versions in any daw with much more controls, quality and precision. And free xD
2xGate with different attack and release times? It should work in similar fashion, but it could be less precise. I want to try it out. He could use 2 instances of the plugin on two groups rooted from one source with solo enabled for attack and sustain. Then treat both tracks with plugins.
2:30 buy it then ????
I am lorde
07:03
Or you can just use Transient Shaper in FL along with effects in Patcher
No
I am not super happy with Quantum. Mostly because you can do this in the DAW and just use your own channel strip for it. It is cool for a one-stop shop, but mostly the fact that it seems to capture a production technique into a plugin. If you want to do this, is it really hard to do this with two REAPER tracks and two transient processors?
How? Doubling all the drum tracks, completely remove the transitent for one track and remove the sustain for another so you can process each separately? Depeding on how the fade out of the transient part mixes with the sustain the crossfade point might not be perfect, resulting in a gain bump...
@@D-One Yes, something like that. I can try to make an example, but it really shouldn't be too complex. From what I understand, Quantum basically is two transient shapers that have two processing chains with inserts that are then merged. It might be simplifying it a little. I tested it quickly with channel 1 sending to channel two, added two transient shapers from Kilohearts (just the first one that sprung to mind) and added Timeless and Saturn on the respective tracks, one dialed in to emphasize the transients and the other set to emphasize the sustains. I loaded up Quantum to do the "same thing". Doing it with Quantum was obviously faster but less flexible, and they obviously do not sound the same, but I really don't see why you cannot make them sound similar if that is what you're going for. If I could share a picture of the setup here, I would.
@@D-One Yes, there is a gain bump, but Quantum also bumps the gain when you ask it to. The gain can be adjusted by just using the normal faders for the two tracks, and when you dial it in the way you want it, you can just add it to a group track to have a single fader. Quantum has these two gain faders in the plugin, which I guess you might prefer. One gripe I had with Quantum is that it generated a lot of phantom transients on some material I gave it, which could be improved easily with letting the Hold go over 100ms, perhaps even letting the hold time be host synced to beat. Not going to take away from it if you like it. :)
@@D-One If you want, you can even just run a single transielt processor for attack, send the post FX signal from that to another track, and invert the polarity. I mean, I guess it can get a little complex quickly, but setting it up in REAPER isn't hard. Also, I think setting it up with something like Snap Heap is a very viable alternative. This is just me yapping at this point, happy holidays. :)
@@larsthomasdenstad9082 It's not just two transient shapers, afaik it separates the transient/start from the tail/sustain like manually slicing off all transients and putting into a separate track; doing it manually is very common for drum sound designers but is only practical to work on a single one-shot sample that you then export to make kits.
Its the MMultiAnalyzer and you know it! ;-D
melodyne does something like this iirc
People are commenting that it has " pops and clicking sound." 🤷♂
This is very similar to PANCZ by Oversampled.
The weird thing is that the track already sounded great... so...
you almost gave me a heart attack there in the beginning of the vid