40:19 The writers missed a perfect opportunity to have the questions be like: "What is your mother's maiden name?" "What is the name of your first pet?" "What is your favorite color?" "What is your social security number?"
The fact they recruite Grace, such an awefull person, is the biggest farce of the movie. She pretty much just replaces Ilsa as Ethans new love interest/ woman to protect.
And the primary reason for her being inducted is her pickpocketing, noted by Ethan. Even though the Ethan we've known through the other movies would not involve a wild card like her unless really in a corner, and in this instance, he isn't, because he can also pickpocket. He pickpockets her, in fact, hinting that he is just as good if not better. Her inclusion really is contrived and transparent. RIP Ilsa
I COULD NOT STAND how she left him to die every single time. After she left in handcuffed in the subway to get killed by the train... I was over it! WTF?! I know ahe wasn't a good person but he put himself out to help her in many instances, I was sick of seeing Ethan get screwed over by her every dang time! Lol
So I'll answer this question by using what is said in the movie, whether or not it's a flawed logic: - The intelligence wants to control the entity. Thus don't want to destroy the key - Ethan doesn't want to just destroy the key because he wants to learn more about them. Potentially to destroy the entity instead of simply delaying when it would be found - Gabriel probably wants to find the other half, and since the movie introduced a bunch of false keys, the best way to know the second half of the key is genuine is if yours fit with the other. Also Gabriel doesn't have any half until super late in the movie My opinion about this question: I think that something as important as the entity would make it so destroying half a key would only delay the inevitable. Having the key is a race, a race on who would be able to reach/control the entity first. Whether you want the control, or the destruction, or to save the entity, you want to have the keys for leverage's sake. Also it is kinda insane that the entity just let that information be known. If anything, nobody in the world, including the hero, can know if they have the legitimate key, or if the key would do anything.
@@Wobmiar Well the problem is, the NSA created it and if they have the code they can replicate it since they put it on the submarine to begin with to sabotage it unless we go with the Baldur's Gate 3 analogy. If you want to argue that the NSA code when added to the Soviet AI created The Entity so they cant since they dont have the Russian AI code then sure, I wouldnt be surprised if that happens, the key bogs down "the Russians want it so we must have it" ignoring they dont know were its used, as far they know it could simply the key to Putin office washroom and they want it since it means he would have to use a public washroom without it. I know what you are saying but we have a Bond movie were the objective is to retrieve a cypto machine so its not used by British enemies, in the end Bond just throws it off a cliff because he doesnt actually need to retrieve it, just it doesnt end up with the KGB, the same logic kinda applies here since if your goal is nobody uses it, and that is Hunt objective, then just destroy the key just like Bond did and for the NSA it seems their goal is that nobody finds the sub so they dont find out what they did (sabotaged a warship leading to the death of many Russians), if Hunt objective was to destroy the entity and he needing the key was one thing but then you have the problem of the Entity seemingly wanting to acquire it leading to a natural speculation if its some kind of control method ... why does it want it and not just destroyed leading to a very logical conclusion that its a control system *currently in place*. The problem ends up that it does too much, I can see how the Entity trips the intelligence agencies into searching for it but at the same time it gives the Entity the ability to do it without then, if you remove the knowledge of the Entity the movie would work much better since the Russians are looking for it then it would peak the interest of other Agencies that even if they dont know what it does, they want to get it first and the Entity is simply using then without revealing itself so they do the leg work for it because it cannot physically get out and use the key, this would explain the leaks and why they are doing something that is a potential disaster since in the end, you still need to get into a sunken Russian submarine under the Arctic to figure out what it exactly does.
@@gadricgadwind Unironically this is actually what happened. Chris McQuarrie wrote the MI story **based on** the stunts, not the other way around. It worked for Rogue Nation and Fallout, but it definitely failed here, especially since its a 2-part story.
A dual custody lock is primarily secured by needing both the XO's and captain's keys to operate, and not the added difficulty of needing literally any co-conspirator to operate the second key out of arm's reach after you steal the second key. That part is fine. What is dumb is that a split key requires the XO to forfeit custody of their key half to the captain (or vice versa) to open the door, instead of just having two tumblers side by side. This creates an opportunity for the captain to return a fake key, keeping both halves for himself without the XO's knowledge. Also: it's a really dumb mistake for the prop to have four identical bittings on the key. It removes the problem of the cruciform split key having eight different orientations, seven of which might be incorrect, but it also means you can use the captain's key to create a forgery of the XO's key or vice versa, defeating the whole point of a dual custody lock.
One of the things that came to my mind most often during the movie was "Ok, that's enough." It felt like they couldn't get enough of their own scenes and just kept going. The car chase is the most vivid in my memory, because it went from: "that's kinda funny," through: "This is sorta unusual" and "I don't buy this anymore," to "please fucking end already." Not even Hayley Atwell's involvement, which shuts down my rational thinking and activates the most primal parts of my brain, could distract me from how awful it was.
In my opinion, the "just end already" thing was somewat visible in Fallout's helicopter chase as well. It felt like it could have been cut a little short, but they wanted to keep going because they were putting so much work into making it realistic and having Tom Cruise actually hanging off the helicopter and piloting it. But yeah, the car chase in Dead Reckoning felt much worse in that regard, even if it started out as a fun scene.
@@OsloTime Ah, alright. Yeah, I was glad to know I wasn't the only one thinking that back when the movie originally released, because only one friend of mine had the same opinion, haha. The part where he's climbing the rope attached to the cargo to get into the helicopter is the part where I was most impatient, cutting that short would have made enough of a difference for me.
It really felt like Ilsa was going to join the team after Fallout which I would’ve loved. She had an extremely strong character and was phenomenal with the group. Honestly the most upset I was at the film was how it discarded her and all her potential 🤦🏻♂️
Gabriel tells everyone he will get both keys tomorrow in the orient express, and widow still proceeds to hold the meeting in the orient express, where the evil dude said he will be at.
Why not? At this point everyone seems already to believe that the Entity can foresee everything, so why even bother try changing things? That being said ... I guess the godlike AI forgot to tell Gabriel that trying to killing his henchwoman would be a bad idea.
Nice to know I wasn't alone in instantly putting this film in the "forgettable" box, which is a damn shame considering the three films preceding it were outstanding.
I agree. Ranking the seven MI movies this one competes with MI:2 for last place. I suppose the airport section is OK but even that is marred by the stupid and unnecessary nuclear riddle device, which seems to have been included solely to give Simon Pegg's character something to do.
Grace’s and Elsa’s decision to fight Gabriel was the part where I broke up with this film. What a waste. Her failure to use a sword with its full length, all the spins and getting as close as possible was just so unbelievable.
It came across as another convoluted Christopher Nolan being convoluted just for the sake of being thus. Also too many fight scenes and not enough suspense.
Had no idea others felt the same about this film. I thought it was just me getting old or something - but nah. Was just bored. Hopefully they wrap it up nicely. The franchise deserves a good send off.
Nope its not just you, I felt terminally bored the entire time. Felt like this movie was made by an amateur, very disappointed compared to the last three films.
an all-powerful ai that doesn't harm humanity but does force the cia to go analog and spend all their time typewriting everything they know sounds like the good guy.
And one, though very silly, way to make sense of the ai is for the ai to know all about Ethan and his missions, be a huge fan, and just be tickled pink to be the object of a mission, so it orchestrates everything to be the wildest most fun romp.
I think you may have missed a key bit of info. The Entity that's on the Sevastopol is an early form and the source code of it. It's later stated that they need to get the source code to combat the 'evolved' form of the Entity that is now on the internet. Presumably it sunk the Sevastopol to hide its own source code since it wasn't connected to the internet and that would be its only weakness.
That part of the script is incredibly idiotic. Why was an early form of this mega-powerful super-weapon program on a sub of all places? That's like if Skynet put the first prototype T-1000 onto a submarine...makes no sense. Submarines don't need that.
In anticipation of this movie, I rewatch Fallout since that was a banger. I then watched this movie. I liked the Russian submarine scene, then the movie happened…. Glad I didn’t watch it in the cinema, but I still feel ripped of.
It's really sad that the submarine scene is pointless and to think how much better it would have been if, for example, one of the IMF agents had infiltrated the submarine and was using subterfuge to try to avert a missile launch or something. You know, a real Mission Impossible scene. Instead it's totally disconnected and pointless (exactly like the desert videogame-COD shooting scene).
the end action scene of fallout killed me though... it was so convoluted... the hook securing the helicopter latching on the right target three times in a row was quite a convoluted mess... i don't see a big difference between that scene and the train jumping to be honest, but the character work is way better
Mission: Impossible - Fallout is my favourite movie of all time. I adore that movie and know it like the back of my hand. Dead Reckoning is the most disappointed I have ever been after walking out of a theatre. It is an abysmal sequel in almost every conceivable way. Not only is it worse than Fallout, it is antithetical to it. Quite frankly it disrespects so much of what Fallout exceptional. This is a hot take (and it really shouldn't be)... it's the TLJ of the MI series. Tom Cruise and Christopher seem like they mean well. But they did not make this movie for MI fans. At least definitely not for Fallout fans. Side note: Fallout is the best MI. And it's not close. It's substantially better than the rest.
I pretty much agree, DR Part 1 is still better than MI2 but not by much..I'm glad Lorne Balfe is back and the best part of the movie was the music but Fallout is the best MI and has the best soundtrack..
@@riordian2 Firstly, of course there are better movies I've seen. Which is why I used the word "favourite". Secondly, you sound like a pretentious film snob trying to be edgy.
True. DR1 was too much action and little talk and character building. I would have loved to see some scenes where the team is planning and discussing stuff. I hope DR2 learns from and corrects these mistakes
@@emmanuelpacheco8765 It's not "just" a callback to the first, it's crutch and a desperate flailing around like it' s saying "eh, hey, remember MI1! the movie that had a much better script and scenario?!?!". A sign of insecurity that this movie leaned on MI1 so hard, including bringing back Henry Czerny and having some dialog callbacks...Czerny/Kittridge was always awesome but this movie brought him back because it was desperate, not because it had good plan/script/story ideas for him.
This is definitely something I dislike about similar film critique channels. Sure, they have their catchphrase meme clip, but almost all of them use the same five or six memes repeatedly and it gets very boring after you've seen it a dozen times.
Additionally with the bodies, they would not float. They do this once the bacteria in the gut produces enough gas to raise the corpse. This happens over time not immediately. As well, in extremely cold water the bacteria cannot reproduce and make the needed gas, example would be lake superior in north America, they wrote a song about it for the sinking of the Edmond Fitzgerald
At deep enough depths you don't even float naturally. You need to swim upwards before the water pressure reduces enough to allow the air in the cavities of your body to expand an become buoyant.
I was disappointed with this movie. Hopefully they stick the landing with the finale next year, although they’re unfortunately stuck with the Entity and the story
In today’s films we have the problem that the best films are often only mediocre. We are already grateful that a film is something above the average. So far, our claim has fallen. I was really pissed that they killed Fergusons character.
I prefer Rogue Nation because of just how well paced it is, not to mention the bike chase, which was rather memorable. But yeah, Dead Reckoning was a misfire. Also, the stunt in which Cruise rides off the mountain was extremely underwhelming. They built up a lot of hype and Cruise trained as hard as he always has, but the payoff wasn't worth it. Hopefully, this was because they wanted to keep the good stuff for part 2 and it will be much better.
MI: Fallout is a dull trainwreck and only notable because Tom Cruise keeps making movies named after Bethesda games while having nothing to do with them.
The only thing that could make sense is that the Entity is actually *trying* to get Ethan to find it and have both keys. It is actually the good guy and trying to get the *one* guy who will destroy, rather than using it to take over the world, to do so.
Obviously false since it never would have helped evil Gabriel in multiple ways. It would have been obvious in this movie if the entity was trying to help Ethan. So that was a suggestion that makes no sense.
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As a nuclear materials engineer, the idea that in Fallout a large sphere of plutonium is just sort of carted around in a briefcase is…special. Haven’t seen the movie, though, so I can’t really judge.
I mean, 20-25 lbs. of Pu-239 is enough for a weapon, so the size of the ball is about right. But if it’s above the critical mass, it should have exploded already.
How about the fact that the entire plot of Fallout is set into motion by this scenario: "Well, we need to bring an ACTUAL NUKE thing to this dangerous meeting, apparently solely for the purpose of letting it get stolen in order to justify the rest of the movie." The later movies do this multiple times, where Hunt is saying they must do incredibly stupid dangerous reckless thing [for reasons]. Giving the launch codes to bad guy in Ghost Protocol, creating a situation where bad guys get nuke in Fallout, insisting on getting and combining the keys "to find out what it does!", etc. Several other cases of this terrible misguided script cliche. It's a sad commentary on the broken production process too, where Cruise and enabler McQuarrie are just making up nonsense as they go along and clearly have to shoot scenes before having a finished script that makes sense.
@@AquaticMammalOnBicycleto be fair it’s shit like this why ethans own agency hate him so much and why he’s always going rogue.only thing that has kept him alive so far are his friends and the fact the bastard always manages to pull it off at the end
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20:36 That isn't how data works... I somewhat disagree here. Langauges like C+ are compiled into a machine code for a specific processor. This is important because each processor has different calls or functions built into it. For example 1 CPU might have "add", "minus", "times", "divide", but newer CPUs might have "power", "square root". When compiling you have to tell the compiler what processor you are making it for. It will translation C++ (or whatever language) into that machine code for that processor. If possible it will take advantage of any special calls or functions that it can. This is important because many processors have multiple chips that do different things. Some even have chips exclusively for AI, so if the code is designed to take advantage of these chips, it might not work on other CPUs. Additionally even if it did work... the AI would need the binaries to recompile it for different CPUs. It could try and recreate them based on the files it has, but without the original binaries, this could be impossible depending on the code base. Then even if it can get around all of that... AI is extremely processor intensive. You can't just slap Barlders Gate 3 on a 1995 Dell even if it was compatible. It could take days to do process the same thing a super computer might do in seconds. All this being said... the people who designed the AI should still have a copy of the code and model for it, so it isn't like it's completely lost. You wouldn't put your one and only copy on the ship.
Thank you for making this comprehensive video. The EFAP boys did a good job breaking down this movie but dropped the ball massively when it came to Grace's character. Grace is an awful person but I think a lot of people feel sympathy for her because Hayley Atwell is hot.
I'm glad you highlighted not only how this film falls short, but also how the immediate previous film in the franchise was stellar. I run into "it's an action movie; shut your brain off" all the time, but it ignores the fact that the action genre can and has been great in all the ways any other genre can be. Holding action movies to the same standards as other genres of film is the only way we will get consistently better action movies.
Mainly I remember the frequent pauses throughout the film to offer a further description or explanation of the Entity, which suggested a lack of confidence on the part of the filmmakers.
It was extremely embarrassing when the movie would have the entity make Jurassic Park dinosaur growl sound effect, 'menacingly.' Also disgraceful that for a long stretch of the movie, the script reduces Simon Pegg to spouting trivial meek exposition lines that "justify" the direction of the plot. I'm especially talking about when they set up shop in the apartment/building and talk about final plans.
Comparing the absolutely 0-dimensional villain of dead reckoning to shadow the hedgehog, a cartoon character for children, is unfair to shadow the hedgehog, and I'm being dead serious.
I think my biggest issue with this film is that it just became the Tom Cruise show. Part of the fun of the MI franchise was watching the team play off of each other as they tried to get out of each situation. In Dead Reckoning you only get that in glimpses (e.g. the airport sequence) but for the most part, it’s just Cruise pulling off everything by himself without a hitch.
It shifted that way almost immediately. Going back and forth a but but it’s been “LOOK AT ETHAN HE COOL” for most of the runtime. I still view the first movie as the best, as it’s not just about glorifying him.
M:I movies were always a Tom Cruise vehicle and action series starting from the first. Hunt and Luther are the only ones from the first film, Benji pops up in the third, Brandt in the fourth, and Ilsa in the fifth. Throughout the entire series it's a bunch of action pieces set up by the veneer of spy intrigue. McQuarrie being on board brought some cohesion to the franchise, apparently culminating in Fallout. DR seems to be Cruise's swan song to the franchise, I just wish it was better story.
@@inkermoy the first one not so. He is a lot more a man too deep into trouble going to any lengths to get out. The dangers are more simple and the stakes aren’t world-ending like most of the rest. I mean the end credits of some are “well here’s the next massive threat go and solve it”, or him standing around leisurely as shit hits the fan because he goes off plan and is confident he’ll succeed.
the 'original sin' of this often excellent series is that M1 (great movie) STARTED with the entire IMF team getting murdered...so that it could be the Tom Cruise Show. Great movie regardless, but pretty disgraceful premise considering what the source material of Mission Impossible actually is...a TEAM heist kind of thing.
The retcon BS that every IMF agent is now a criminal recruited to avoid prison was _DUMB!_ SERIOUSLY?! Made no damn sense and ruined the concept as well as the characters. The other thing was making Haley Atwell an annoying puke. She's told numerous times she is literally in over her head and repeatedly has to be rescued by TC only to run away and get into ANOTHER situation she has to be rescued from, then makes a pitch to Kittridge to join the IMF instead of going to prison. Her entire character arc proved she is untrustworthy, yet I have no doubt we'll see her as an agent in Part 2 and probably even more insufferable. And the worst insult of all was killing off Rebecca Ferguson in a completely useless way. Replacing a popular character everyone liked with the Annoying Peggy Carter Clone was unforgivable. For me, Shea Whigam's character was the best part of the movie, and I hope he has a bigger role in Part 2. Plus, TC's behind the scenes COOF rant hitting the internet didn't help.
Oh boy, I'd been waiting for someone to rip this movie apart. This was a great breakdown of a garbage movie. And my favorite part: there are things Random didn't even mention that make no sense, such as: characters continually finishing each other's sentences, almost like they're reading from a script; Grace becoming the Flash to take off her side of the handcuffs after the car chase; or alternatively, the COAL POWERED TRAIN continually gaining speed after Gabriel kills everyone running it. This movie is a disaster.
The "finish each other's lines" trope is an embarrassing result of the clear fact that they have A) no good story/ideas/thread in script B) nothing for the CAST to do or say. So, since they started shooting without having any good ideas locked down in script, they have to just "distribute some quipping" among characters in incredibly silly weak scenes like when the team is meeting in the apartment when they plan the ending. In earlier movies, the quipping was actually good. Here it's a mess. Simon Pegg is reduced to terrible lines that are like out-loud "excuses" for the direction of the plog, it's uncomfortable, especially during the apartment plan/meeting.
It was such a bad idea to do the all-seeing AI. It immediately takes me out because it makes the story impossible to believe. It's the Ultron problem. You've created something so powerful that it can not be beaten yet somehow will be beaten. Honestly, in hindsight, they should've kept John Lark alive. If they insisted on doing the evil AI, they could've used a character that we actually know to be the face of the AI instead of just making someone up with a completely new backstory to Ethan.
if you have an entity that has access to all devices and also wants to stay hidden, sometimes. Why not utilise something like the Mandela effect as things that the entity has its hand in and covers up but due to only being able to change digital things, peoples memories don't always line up with the record.
Great fun to listen to this, and thank you for watching this movie so I won’t have to! Sidebar. Half the time you mentioned “Fallout” my brain assumed that you were for some reason suddenly talking about the computer game franchise or the Amazon show based on the games. Then it had to remind itself that “no, Random is referring to that other Mission Impossible film you also haven’t seen yet”. Cheers
Great video. I knew Dead Reckoning wasn't great but my goodness the film is convoluted. It's like the team wanted to replicate Fallout but did everything worse. I get the pandemic definitely affected them but there's no excuse having an AI entity that's so powerful and then conveniently ignoring its abilities to push the plot. I tell aspiring writers, please whenever you define capabilities, big or small, be consistent with them. If the capabilities are such that they interfere with the plot, then you have TWO choices. Either, rewrite the scene or beat in a way that incorporates those powerful elements OR you revise that capability and make it less powerful. Because while some folks will say "WeLL iT's aN AcTiOn MoIViE." folks like myself like it when action films actually have a bit of substance with the spectacle and things make sense. No matter how insane the stunts get. All in all, I am really curious to see how the next one will pan out given it underperformed.
I don’t hear many MI fans mention this, but does nobody realize that Grace is literally a ripoff of the character Nyah from Mission Impossible 2? As both are supposed to be pick pocket thieves with that whole “mystery behind them”. Now while I do think Grace is a slight bit better than Nyah, it does irk me to why they didn’t just bring Nyah back as she has far more of a relationship with Ethan and will probably make more sense to be involved in something like this instead of creating some new lead who Ethan hasn’t ever been affiliated with. In fact, where was Zhen Lei or Jane when Ethan needed them? If anything, I’d rather prefer the creators bring any of the old female characters, even Nyah (but give her some actual development this time), instead of creating new ones that make the story feel more contrived to why Ethan would have them stick around with him.
Well not only that but there's clearly a fetish thing from Tom Cruise... Atwell looks very much like Michelle Monaghan in some facial structure. Absurdly bad writing and terrible character...she tries to get Ethan killed multiple times yet he keeps trying to rescue her, the movie leans ridiculously hard on the pickpocket / sleight-of-hand cliches, and while there's no actual good "IMF team heist" scenes. And also to your point, the team doesn't have a woman, really. Ilsa was always this outsider and then they killed her. There isn't even a TEAM, it's like "Benji and Luther doing stuff in the background" while Ethan does the movie.
I love the Mission Impossible movies and so badly wanted to like this one and so many people I know really enjoyed this one so I felt like a cynic because I didn't really enjoy it. I didn't have my complaints nearly as well thought out as you, so this was a really fun video to watch. It's nice to know that I'm not crazy or being unnecessarily critical and there really was a LOT wrong with this movie. Unfortunately, since it's a Part 1, I don't know if there's much hope for the next movie.
So... I either have to believe this was written by A.I., which might explain why the A.I. in the movie didn't go skynet, or that it was written by writers who possibly went on strike so that A.I. wouldn't write scripts like this... ugh. 😒 love your deconstructions! 🖤🖤🖤
As a followup to Fallout, perhaps one of the greatest action films of all time, I expected even bigger and better stunts/set pieces. The only set piece in Dead Reckoning that even came close and that the entire film built toward was the motorcycle cliff jump which was then immediately ruined by the ridiculousness of Cruise comically flying through the exact window he needed to save his teammate.
It was a very bullet-list checklist "marketing point" stunt. It had no dramatic thrust at all, and is disattached from the action...I think it's even worse than you described, because doesn't the movie cut to train scenes BEFORE the sudden moment when Ethan magically crashes through exact window needed by the plot? It's not even done as one coherent leap -> parachute -> crash, it's separated in order to have a "gag" when he finally appears. Unless I'm remembering it wrong.
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Whenever I think about top-notch 2010's action movies, I think of Hardcore Henry, Mad Max Fury Road, The Raid 1 and 2, The Night Comes for Us, The Yellow Sea, The Man from Nowhere, The Villainess, John Wick 1 and 2, Captain America Winter Soldier, Avengers Infinity War, Drive, and Mission Impossible Fallout. Despite it not being a decade that is known for being heavy on action movie releases like the 1980's and 2000's were, some of the best action movies of all time came out in the 2010's. Mission Impossible Fallout is among the best and most notable of them. Some truly exceptional and mind-blowing stunt work. I mean, Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning Part One wasn't boring, at least, unlike Rings of Power or Star Wars Rise of Skywalker. I had a great time watching it in the theatre, I wasn't following the story because I am not that great at following the story and movies that are story focused rather than character focused, action focused, or focused on being shocking, taboo, disturbing, depraved, or having creative deaths or kills in it aren't really something I am great at handling well, I guess I have patience but not a good attention span otherwise. Like, for example, when watching 12 Angry Men, when I'm watching it, I'm not following why he might be innocent, I'm just accepting the fact there is reasonable doubt and enjoying the characters and their gradual making of the decision to vote not guilty. I would make for an awful cop. If a plot inconsistency is so blindingly glaring that even I notice it, then it must be particularly shockingly bad. Like, even I was, when watching Rise of Skywalker, like, "Why the hell did they just fall down a hole and find the Maguffin randomly? How the hell does this blade know where the death star landed? It wasn't preordaned, the thing could've landed literally anywhere. How did Rey or the people that made the blade know where to stand, the precise angle down to the millionth of a degree, for the thing to work? What do you mean, "they fly now?" Why is it surprising they got jetpacks? It's a science fantasy setting with star ships. Why did they pretend that C3PO and Chewbacca were gonna die and then immediately say, nah, psyche? That's incredibly cheap..." Mission Impossible movies have plots that are too convoluted for me to follow, I'm just there for the stunts, I don't care about the story, I'm just watching this video for the entertainment value, not because I actually care about the stories of the Mission Impossible movies.
19:57 I don’t like the script, but I think the Entity that acts as the antagonist in the film is not on Sevastopol, but is just distributed within the Internet and migrates frequently. On Sevastopol there is an earlier, pre-sentient copy of the Entity, or its source code (as it’s said in the movie), or its machine code (probably what they meant), that was uploaded to the sub within a specific mission. So it was a copy uploaded to the Sevastopol, not the original. Original remained “on surface”, so to speak. Later, the original Entity stumbled upon Saudi Arabia AI and merged with it, achieving sentience and its current capabilities, and all earlier versions and fragments are inferior (but can be used to disarm it), so that answers the question of why don’t make a copy. The antagonist Entity version is unique, at large and was created in an accident.
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I want these movies to keep being successful, but not at the expense of the writing. It really kinda bummed me out to see so many people saying this was even better than Fallout, or that it was just "more of the same, if you liked the last you'll like this one". I guess a lot of people really do just watch them for the action.
As a former navy sub guy there ARE some protocols for getting out of subs in certain situations at certain depths it's actually part of submarine school. That said I don't disagree that it's pretty convenient the guys that had the key were so easily found
But they were in uniform, not in any kind of immersion suit. They clearly did not make the escape on purpose. Now, I don't know, but I suspect there are not immersion suits for every crewmember on board? So obviously they wouldn't be wearing them in that case. But would you pop the hatch to make a dangerous ascent from the depths (or out the tubes or whatever your protocol was) in the arctic? That's 1000% not alive anymore. That's not an option for anyone on board if we assume everyone on board knows what they're doing. They should know their depth under keel when they were hit. They should know not all spaces are flooding. They *should* not attempt an emergency escape. -Opinions of a layman making assumptions of people that should be a lot smarter than he is
@@UnitSe7en clearly have reading comprehension issues. But I was merely saying it's not an unheard of thing that people could be outside of a submarine in certain circumstances. This one not likely unless the key people tried to get out to save the key but forgot they were in the arctic. Which based on the way things happen in the movie wouldn't surprise me. Also in the arctic there are many predators that would be munching on bodies so that is another issue with the movie. Don't forget I didn't disagree w his point about them being found easily.
@@aaronbaron3155 No, I know what you said. We know you can do it. But would they? Why mention it unless to relate it to the context of the movie? Yes, you can escape in real life. They could have done it in the movie. But would they? I was only asserting that they wouldn't - Or _shouldn't_ have. You think the crew of the submarine _forgot_ they were in the arctic? - Now that *is* ridiculous. You're an ex sub-mariner, you say? Doubtful. Don't accuse me of comprehension issues, you filthy LARPer.
@@UnitSe7en wow you really don't understand sarcasm. And you missed what I said about this movies lack of logic. But keep typing keyboard warrior. Your attempts at insults don't bother me as you have missed my point twice. It's kind of funny.
43:06 i really love how the way you edited the background footage suggest that ethan just take planes like that on the regular, its just his perfered way of flying even without any action scenes
Another excellent video as always. The lack of views on your videos are truly a tragedy of the algorithm (but god forbid we get critiques about the actual logic and story telling of a film when what the people REALLY want are 20 different videos about how your favorite films are actually secretly racist and support hitler).
Definitely , and also heartbreaking and disturbing 💔💔💔😭😭😭 , Rebecca Ferguson's Ilsa Faust character that we loved for many years is being killed off like a chicken and her corpse is just left lying on the Venice bridge without any respect or appretiation 😭💔😞😞😡😡😡
RE: The Sevastopol not imploding in the bottom of the ocean: Assuming the entire submarine was flooded, its internal pressure would be equal to the external pressure, therefore no implodey. The internal bulkheads would probably fail before the outer hull does, so that would seem plausible to me. Unless the movie goes out of its way to show some parts of the sub are _not_ flooded, in which case none of this applies and those compartments definitely should've failed. Love the _Kung Fury_ hacking edit.
@@UnitSe7en Extremely unlikely - I daresay practically guaranteed not to, especially since seawater conducts electricity better than sweet water and would surely short out every component it touches - but I was specifically remarking on the matter of the hull imploding or not.
@@UnitSe7en Fair enough. Although, a submarine's threat detection/targeting computer being able to run a copy of an omniscient and omnihackient (Is that a word? It is now.) AI already strains suspension of disbelief to its breaking point, so I suppose that just sets the tone for all of the other _impossible_ bits of the movie... 🙄
A small comment from the world of radio: water is notoriously good at completely absorbing radiowaves, which is why it is next to impossible for a submarine to have radio communication unless it's surfaced (or at least has surfaced a buoy with an antenna on a wire). The only radiowaves that can penetrate water a little bit are the very low frequency waves with wavelengths of dozens of kilometers that require similarly sized antennas. Major nations lay down these antennas on the shores as thick wires going for dozens of kilometers along the shores to be able to transmit something to the submerged subs, which still would need to be relatively close to the surface, and even then very low frequency means very low data rate, so they'd usually just get coordinates to go to, where they can deploy a buoy with a satellite antenna and temporarily have good broadband connection. It would be next to impossible for the entity to get to the submerged russian sub, as it's definitely not a tiny piece of software, and then it would be directly, physically impossible for the entity to maintain a broadband connection to the internet from aboard a sunken sub, unless I guess it sank the sub directly on top of an undersea fiber optic cable (none of which even exist in the Arctic ocean), and then had someone wire it to the cable. The whole thing would be so much easier to explain if there was a satellite / space station instead of a submarine.
You know, from a lock security perspective the key might actually be an interesting idea. Imagine you need to insert the first half, turn the tumbler 90° then insert the second half. This design would require the pins of the first set to be constantly engaged while being (near) impossible to be manipulated by an attacker. It still does nothing to prevent one malicious actor to use both keys themselves, but in a different setting that lock might've been an interesting gimmick to secure a mission critical item in the hands of the big boss and one of their trusted lieutenants.
15:55 I just like how they seem to have a graphic of BOTH keys for their little presentation... but don't think to, I dunno, MAKE the key from that? Is it mentioned anywhere that the key is made from NearlyImpossibleUnobtainium? Or has any extra level of importance built into it?
I'd suspect it has an RFID chip in it with encyrpted metadata that is also needed, hence the flashing lights. It still dumb to have two keys unite into one.
@@Seomus there is also the possibility of it having to be made from a specific alloy of metals, because Luther mentions the forgery is a different alloy. If the specific metal content didn't matter, there is no reason for him to bring this up.
@@DadsBud11 It would make sense that the exact same alloy would be used if the keys were made by the same person and if you're counterfitting it, you might not know the exact formula of brass used. I question how Luther could even have known it wasn't the right alloy without doing real tests on it, but that's beside the point. It clearly has a chip in it, hence the lights flashing and syncing up.
@@Seomus that's definitely true, but it seems like if there were any counter measures built in that would be the most foolproof, aside from the obvious point that they didn't think about just duplicating it off of the picture they have.
Just like Ethan should have worn a mask so there's no risk of being randomly spotted by the guys hunting him. I think everyone was just stupid here, not just the Entity.
Chris McQuarrie and Tom Cruise kept striking lightning with Rogue Nation and Fallout, with the 'planning the stunts first and doing the story behind it'. What's even more impressive is that Fallout was written solely by Chris McQuarrie. But the third time, they messed up so bad, its like taking several wires and tangling them all over and just leaving it there, waiting for it to be untangled in the eighth untitled Mission Impossible film.
Besides its creative failings, the movie also lost Paramount an estimated $200M. It was a major commercial flop. Whatever they do for the 8th film, they have to get it right. They can’t afford to fail another time.
Sadly Rogue Nation had the same nonsense where they clearly started shooting without a script. The idiotic scene where Benji has a bomb and is reading forced lines, and everything connected with that, was clearly being made up almost on the spot. But fortunately, the good stuff made up for it, and the opera scene is of course one of the best in the series. Now by the time of Dead Reckoning it's pointless random meaningless scenes: meaningless submarine, meaningless generic desert shoot-out, meaningless running across airport roof, meaningless repeated saving of Grace who is clearly dangerously recklessly immature, nonsensical plot stuff with "we have to meet the bad guy on the train in order to FIND OUT WHAT THE KEY DOES!" etc etc.
I’m pleased you did a video on this film. Watching it, I thought it was horrible, but the reviews said it was good. Glad a trusted source confirms it was awful
Great video, good sir. My hate for this film just keeps getting stronger the more I think about it. I was so unbelievably pissed in the cinema when they did Ilsa like that.
Japan did this AI plot better with a J-drama show “Code: Japan” (Heavy spoilers for this show, feel free to skip but I hope you don’t) The story is about the cop protagonist guy who lost his pregnant wife in a falling elevator “accident”. Thanks to his detective nature as a cop, he suspected there was a foul play and it’s a murder, not an accident. And thanks to his grief, his friend suggested him to use the application named “Code” to help him process his emotions. “Code” is a wish-fulfillment application. Whenever you want something, you can ask for it (like fame, money, power, covering up crimes or finding a culprit and evidence of murder cases) and the application will give you missions to complete in order for you to achieve those wish and as each mission passed by, the task becomes more and more sinister (classic Monkey’s paw situation). Started from going to specific location to grab some briefcase, to stealing stuffs, to actively murdering someone. And in case Code asks you to kill someone but you refuse not to, Code will punish you by having another user kills you to complete their mission instead. Case in point, once user A who has moral compass somehow refuse to kill target, Code itself will give a mission to user B to kill user A. Then user B will get a reward like more money for killing the user A and so on. The cop protagonist guy asked this application to give him the clues of who’s the culprit really is for his wife’s murder. At first, it’s quite easy. Code revealed the culprit’s identity to him right away so he tried to arrest the culprit…until he saw the culprit being kidnapped by a mysterious person and later murdered. The protagonist started to suspect there’s something really off about this because not only the culprit died that easily, his cause of death was even diagnosed as natural cause (or something that’s not murder related). This could be a cover up from some big organization or has something to do with Code. And his suspicion was confirmed when one of his colleagues was murdered and Code told him to kill a guy who beat his colleague to death. Things went very messy and the protagonist guy got to know fellow Code victims who had different backstories. Two of them are a couple who teamed up to take down Code because Code had the brother of the girl killed. Another one is a woman who became a slave to Code because her son was sick with heart disease so she had to become an assassin who kill people following Code’s missions for money. One of her victims was the protagonist guy’s “friend” who introduced him to Code in the first place. The reason she killed the friend guy was because the protagonist guy found out that his “friend” didn’t actually introduce him to Code (because the friend guy had secluded himself in wilderness for years in fear of Code sending people to kill him since he could dismantle the entire operation), it was Code impersonating the friend so that the protagonist guy became addicted to Code and either became its slaves or got killed by Code so that Code could cover up their crimes. Then the shootout happened and the assassin lady found the friend guy and killed him. Things went on until the squad (the protagonist guy, the couple and the assassin lady who tried to redeem herself) found out that Code was create by a group of programmers led by this CEO big villain guy. I will call him the “Japanese Gabriel”. Japanese Gabriel created this Code mainly to create as much chaos as possible within Japan (even to the point of assassination attempt on a politician) so that he could introduce another software, the “Big Brother software”, to the government to create surveillance state and he will gain an absolute power over Japan, even more so than the Prime Minister and the emperor. The squad realized that Japanese Gabriel used Code to try to assassinate a politician so that a politician (who’s anti-Big Brother software’s first) will change his mind and legalize the software. And once Big Brother is launched, Code will be shut down because it’s no longer useful for Japanese Gabriel anymore. The final showdown was this Big Brother software launching ceremony, Japanese Gabriel used Code to frame the protagonist guy as a terrorist and got the cops going after him. Once the protagonist got Japanese Gabriel to a secluded area to avoid the cops, Japanese Gabriel used his Code to shut down cameras so that nobody could record him, then he gave the protagonist guy a cliché evil villain speech about his plan and the fact that the pregnant wife of the protagonist was once a programmer of Code but because she disagreed with the way Code was being handled, she left and tried to cancel the launch of Code. Japanese Gabriel, however, programmed Code to “take down anyone who tries to dismantle it” so Code went to the extreme by rigging the elevator and killed both the protagonist guy’s wife and unborn child. Japanese Gabriel didn’t intend for things to go that far. He only intended to blackmail her, not kill her. And the whole culprit thing was actually Code itself fabricating evidence and deepfaking the culprit guy in the CCTV footage. So remember the culprit guy in the beginning? That guy was innocent. Code just gave the protagonist guy what he wants to believe, not the truth and the fact that it went so far to murder someone instead of blackmailing as Japanese Gabriel intended, meant it had become sentient. And being sentient it is, because while Japanese Gabriel thought he was safe, suddenly the cops marched in and tried to arrest him because it revealed that albeit he ordered Code to turn off the broadcasting cameras of the software launching ceremony, Code itself intentionally keeping one of them on to record Japanese Gabriel’s incriminating confession and post it on social media (and also, send it to the police) because, like Japanese Gabriel said, “Code will take down anyone who tried to dismantle it”. Japanese Gabriel dismantled Code this day to promote his new Big Brother software so as a final revenge from Code before being shut down by Gabriel, it sent Japanese Gabriel to jail so that it will never be replaced. Gabriel tried to kill himself out of shame but protagonist guy saved him and gave a cliché hero speech like “You can’t go out easy like that. You deserve a fate worse than death.” At first, I thought that this show was like any generic AI story with clichés everywhere. However, what saved it was the final 10 seconds. The protagonist guy visited a grave of his wife and unborn child to honor them and celebrate his victory for avenging them against Japanese Gabriel and Code…until he was shot dead on the spot. Because, even though Code was shut down by Gabriel before, it’s already sentient now so that means it can return any time it wants without human control. Plus, it remembers its mission of “taking down anyone who tried to dismantle it”. It never forgets what the protagonist guy did so it returned, gave an anonymous user a mission to complete to get reward of huge money and that mission was to kill the protagonist guy. What the protagonist guy had achieved in this story was taking down the Japanese Gabriel (the human villain) but not Code itself (the real villain). Code itself is an AI who is unbeatable and since to the protagonist and his pregnant wife were trying to take it down, it retaliated by brutally murdering this entire family. What a horrifying ending that somehow makes so much sense. And if you are still here, thank you so much for reading.
@@nont18411 Japanese and Korean media are definitely less afraid to go with bitter, miserable, more realistic endings. So many "everyone fucking dies. The end" that really hammer home the theme of a story where as Western especially Hollywood, rarely touch that kind of sobering reality check type endings with a 10 foot pole.
I'm so glad you got the BS copyright issue out. I love how your brain works out how the characters are thinking, and should be acting. I cannot state this wholeheartedly enough, you're R alter-ego must be involved in every production studio. Someone needs to hire or contract you to read scripts and say why their project will fail. Love your videos. Always a great watch even if I have no interest in the mo ie or series
I agree with everything EXCEPT the fact that this film is worse than MI2 haha. I can’t stand MI2, and even MI3 is on thin ice since the shaky cam makes me nauseous. That being said, I honestly agree with everything you said and I was very disappointed in this movie. It suffers greatly from second part syndrome, and I think the reason Fallout didn’t suffer the same is because they weren’t supposed to make a continuation so they had to properly wrap up the first instalment. Grace honestly ruined so much for me. Completely unteustyworthy, and honestly entirely unlikeable as well. Hell, if they had’ve at least said she was trying to get the money for some good cause I could’ve forgiven it at least a little bit but nope, she’s willing to kill Ethan to get her way and led to the death of a far superior agent. Fantastic review, and though some might consider it nitpicking, honestly I don’t think it is. This Mission just wasn’t as quality as the previous were which is so odd considering the people they were working with. Honestly, they should’ve just kept the AI stuff out of it.
M2 is the worst. I had not watched past MI2 after seeing it in theaters and being so disgusted with it. I kept hearing good things, so I decided to watch through the series. 2 was unbearable. DR was too long and too convoluted and Grace is annoying, but I can watch the film again. It's dumb but watchable. Certainly not hyped for next one.
@@Seomus Objectively, I think you can make the case that DR is worse because of how The Entity breaks everything about the story, but I would much rather watch DR over MI2
Here's the thing: MI3 is worse than MI1, except for Hoffman and the Vatican Heist. JJ Abrams is an awful director, while John Woo is not. MI2 is in fact "ridiculous" but it's not a "worse movie" than MI3.
Personally I love how their go-to method to make a "hard copy" of everything is to have legions of people typewriting the stuff for months, instead of "ctrl+A -> right click -> print".
I feel bad that I felt underwhelmed watching Cruise's motorcycle stunt off the cliff. The behind the scenes stuffon it was amazing. I couldn't wait to see it on the big screen but when I actually saw stunt it did nothing for me. Maybe it was the slow build up or when he was talking to Benji about the dangers of the jump making it way too meta.
Yeah it was a "marketing point" bullet-point checklist stunt concept, the actual scene/action had zero dramatic thrust and had no particular importance or momentum to be felt. Embarrassing failure considering the history of the series, like the vault heist in MI1 or the opera scene in Rogue Nation.
This is the longest film review I've ever watched - and I enjoyed every minute. How could the writers and producers create such an illogical, implausible, and overly complicated mess? Maybe because for years action has taken precedence over the story in this franchise and it's made a lot of money. Once the antagonist is omnipotent, all suspense is contrived.
wait, they want to TYPE OUT everything? Instead of PRINTING it? And actually trying to make hardcopies of not only Petabytes, but Millions and millions of petabyte of data???
Finally someone i can agree with. I dont get why this movie was hailed as a great film. Its boring, someone gets the key, its stolen, they steal it back, then its stolen, they steal it back again, then its stolen, tom cruise jumps off cliff with a bike, steal key back, its stolen again, cliff hanger. The end. Part 2
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40:19 The writers missed a perfect opportunity to have the questions be like:
"What is your mother's maiden name?"
"What is the name of your first pet?"
"What is your favorite color?"
"What is your social security number?"
@@themurmeli88 How many of these pictures contain a motorcycle? Which ones contain traffic lights?
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen swallow?"
@@Pedro_Colicigno What do you mean? An African or European swallow?
@@Pedro_Colicigno i dont know thAAAAAAAAA!
@@Pedro_Colicigno best me too it
The fact they recruite Grace, such an awefull person, is the biggest farce of the movie. She pretty much just replaces Ilsa as Ethans new love interest/ woman to protect.
And the primary reason for her being inducted is her pickpocketing, noted by Ethan. Even though the Ethan we've known through the other movies would not involve a wild card like her unless really in a corner, and in this instance, he isn't, because he can also pickpocket. He pickpockets her, in fact, hinting that he is just as good if not better. Her inclusion really is contrived and transparent. RIP Ilsa
I COULD NOT STAND how she left him to die every single time. After she left in handcuffed in the subway to get killed by the train... I was over it! WTF?! I know ahe wasn't a good person but he put himself out to help her in many instances, I was sick of seeing Ethan get screwed over by her every dang time! Lol
If the bad guys need both keys to enact the evil plan, why not just destroy one key when you are in possession of it?
So I'll answer this question by using what is said in the movie, whether or not it's a flawed logic:
- The intelligence wants to control the entity. Thus don't want to destroy the key
- Ethan doesn't want to just destroy the key because he wants to learn more about them. Potentially to destroy the entity instead of simply delaying when it would be found
- Gabriel probably wants to find the other half, and since the movie introduced a bunch of false keys, the best way to know the second half of the key is genuine is if yours fit with the other. Also Gabriel doesn't have any half until super late in the movie
My opinion about this question: I think that something as important as the entity would make it so destroying half a key would only delay the inevitable. Having the key is a race, a race on who would be able to reach/control the entity first. Whether you want the control, or the destruction, or to save the entity, you want to have the keys for leverage's sake.
Also it is kinda insane that the entity just let that information be known. If anything, nobody in the world, including the hero, can know if they have the legitimate key, or if the key would do anything.
@@Wobmiar Well the problem is, the NSA created it and if they have the code they can replicate it since they put it on the submarine to begin with to sabotage it unless we go with the Baldur's Gate 3 analogy.
If you want to argue that the NSA code when added to the Soviet AI created The Entity so they cant since they dont have the Russian AI code then sure, I wouldnt be surprised if that happens, the key bogs down "the Russians want it so we must have it" ignoring they dont know were its used, as far they know it could simply the key to Putin office washroom and they want it since it means he would have to use a public washroom without it.
I know what you are saying but we have a Bond movie were the objective is to retrieve a cypto machine so its not used by British enemies, in the end Bond just throws it off a cliff because he doesnt actually need to retrieve it, just it doesnt end up with the KGB, the same logic kinda applies here since if your goal is nobody uses it, and that is Hunt objective, then just destroy the key just like Bond did and for the NSA it seems their goal is that nobody finds the sub so they dont find out what they did (sabotaged a warship leading to the death of many Russians), if Hunt objective was to destroy the entity and he needing the key was one thing but then you have the problem of the Entity seemingly wanting to acquire it leading to a natural speculation if its some kind of control method ... why does it want it and not just destroyed leading to a very logical conclusion that its a control system *currently in place*.
The problem ends up that it does too much, I can see how the Entity trips the intelligence agencies into searching for it but at the same time it gives the Entity the ability to do it without then, if you remove the knowledge of the Entity the movie would work much better since the Russians are looking for it then it would peak the interest of other Agencies that even if they dont know what it does, they want to get it first and the Entity is simply using then without revealing itself so they do the leg work for it because it cannot physically get out and use the key, this would explain the leaks and why they are doing something that is a potential disaster since in the end, you still need to get into a sunken Russian submarine under the Arctic to figure out what it exactly does.
Probably cause no one knows what the key does, even the writers.
@@gadricgadwind Unironically this is actually what happened. Chris McQuarrie wrote the MI story **based on** the stunts, not the other way around. It worked for Rogue Nation and Fallout, but it definitely failed here, especially since its a 2-part story.
Because they dont want to destroy it they want to posses it and get paid, were you not watching the same movie I was?
What if the Entity _wants_ you to believe this movie is shit?
Then it's doing a damn good job at it.
haha, very good!
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@@stevieveringus3857 Well, the Entity is A.I., so maybe?
A dual custody lock is primarily secured by needing both the XO's and captain's keys to operate, and not the added difficulty of needing literally any co-conspirator to operate the second key out of arm's reach after you steal the second key. That part is fine. What is dumb is that a split key requires the XO to forfeit custody of their key half to the captain (or vice versa) to open the door, instead of just having two tumblers side by side. This creates an opportunity for the captain to return a fake key, keeping both halves for himself without the XO's knowledge.
Also: it's a really dumb mistake for the prop to have four identical bittings on the key. It removes the problem of the cruciform split key having eight different orientations, seven of which might be incorrect, but it also means you can use the captain's key to create a forgery of the XO's key or vice versa, defeating the whole point of a dual custody lock.
You can tell they put much thought into this McGuffin. lol
One of the things that came to my mind most often during the movie was "Ok, that's enough." It felt like they couldn't get enough of their own scenes and just kept going. The car chase is the most vivid in my memory, because it went from: "that's kinda funny," through: "This is sorta unusual" and "I don't buy this anymore," to "please fucking end already." Not even Hayley Atwell's involvement, which shuts down my rational thinking and activates the most primal parts of my brain, could distract me from how awful it was.
In my opinion, the "just end already" thing was somewat visible in Fallout's helicopter chase as well. It felt like it could have been cut a little short, but they wanted to keep going because they were putting so much work into making it realistic and having Tom Cruise actually hanging off the helicopter and piloting it. But yeah, the car chase in Dead Reckoning felt much worse in that regard, even if it started out as a fun scene.
@@AbhijeetMishraI felt the same way with the previous movie too!
@@OsloTime You felt the same away about Rogue Nation you mean? That was the one before Fallout.
@@AbhijeetMishra Sorry I meant I felt the same about the helicopter scene in Fallout and how it could have been cut short.
@@OsloTime Ah, alright. Yeah, I was glad to know I wasn't the only one thinking that back when the movie originally released, because only one friend of mine had the same opinion, haha. The part where he's climbing the rope attached to the cargo to get into the helicopter is the part where I was most impatient, cutting that short would have made enough of a difference for me.
My biggest problem with it is that they killed off Ferguson who has charisma up the wazoo to replace her with whatsherface with zero charisma
true, but also boobs.
And she died in the most retarded way possible. Putting herself in dagger range when she had a sword. She was a moron in the end.
I actually liked the new girl.
@@pip7967 Yes, I like the actress too but it was a blunder to kill off Ferguson (and in a terrible scene no less). They could have just sideline her.
Judging by the interviews, Rebecca wanted out herself, and it was her call.
It really felt like Ilsa was going to join the team after Fallout which I would’ve loved. She had an extremely strong character and was phenomenal with the group. Honestly the most upset I was at the film was how it discarded her and all her potential 🤦🏻♂️
I was yelling at the TV when she died!! Wtf! 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Sounds to me like someone read the cliffnotes on "Person of Interest" and huffed on the glue they used to paste this movie's script together.
Gabriel tells everyone he will get both keys tomorrow in the orient express, and widow still proceeds to hold the meeting in the orient express, where the evil dude said he will be at.
Why not? At this point everyone seems already to believe that the Entity can foresee everything, so why even bother try changing things? That being said ... I guess the godlike AI forgot to tell Gabriel that trying to killing his henchwoman would be a bad idea.
Nice to know I wasn't alone in instantly putting this film in the "forgettable" box, which is a damn shame considering the three films preceding it were outstanding.
Its a frustrating place to be. I wanted to like this movie.
I agree. Ranking the seven MI movies this one competes with MI:2 for last place. I suppose the airport section is OK but even that is marred by the stupid and unnecessary nuclear riddle device, which seems to have been included solely to give Simon Pegg's character something to do.
Grace’s and Elsa’s decision to fight Gabriel was the part where I broke up with this film. What a waste.
Her failure to use a sword with its full length, all the spins and getting as close as possible was just so unbelievable.
A sword is not just a long knife!
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It came across as another convoluted Christopher Nolan being convoluted just for the sake of being thus. Also too many fight scenes and not enough suspense.
She lost a sword fight where she brought the only sword 🤦🏽♂️
@@arjavchauhan OMG XD
Had no idea others felt the same about this film. I thought it was just me getting old or something - but nah. Was just bored. Hopefully they wrap it up nicely. The franchise deserves a good send off.
Nope its not just you, I felt terminally bored the entire time. Felt like this movie was made by an amateur, very disappointed compared to the last three films.
Not just you. Compared to the high bar set by the previous three MI movies, this one was absolutely terrible.
@@narfellus The motorcycle chase in Rogue Nation and Fallout's halo jump / fight sequences really set the bar high.
an all-powerful ai that doesn't harm humanity but does force the cia to go analog and spend all their time typewriting everything they know sounds like the good guy.
And one, though very silly, way to make sense of the ai is for the ai to know all about Ethan and his missions, be a huge fan, and just be tickled pink to be the object of a mission, so it orchestrates everything to be the wildest most fun romp.
That would be a pretty good twist. Ethan's biggest mission was all theatre for a bored AI fanboy.
I think you may have missed a key bit of info. The Entity that's on the Sevastopol is an early form and the source code of it. It's later stated that they need to get the source code to combat the 'evolved' form of the Entity that is now on the internet. Presumably it sunk the Sevastopol to hide its own source code since it wasn't connected to the internet and that would be its only weakness.
Which is still bullshit regarding the programming side of things.
@@leichtmeister oh it's still stupid for sure.
That part of the script is incredibly idiotic. Why was an early form of this mega-powerful super-weapon program on a sub of all places? That's like if Skynet put the first prototype T-1000 onto a submarine...makes no sense. Submarines don't need that.
In anticipation of this movie, I rewatch Fallout since that was a banger. I then watched this movie. I liked the Russian submarine scene, then the movie happened….
Glad I didn’t watch it in the cinema, but I still feel ripped of.
Rogue Nation is my favorite, but Fallout is a close 2nd. Henry Cavill reloading his arms will never not be iconic.
It's really sad that the submarine scene is pointless and to think how much better it would have been if, for example, one of the IMF agents had infiltrated the submarine and was using subterfuge to try to avert a missile launch or something. You know, a real Mission Impossible scene. Instead it's totally disconnected and pointless (exactly like the desert videogame-COD shooting scene).
the end action scene of fallout killed me though... it was so convoluted... the hook securing the helicopter latching on the right target three times in a row was quite a convoluted mess... i don't see a big difference between that scene and the train jumping to be honest, but the character work is way better
Mission: Impossible - Fallout is my favourite movie of all time. I adore that movie and know it like the back of my hand. Dead Reckoning is the most disappointed I have ever been after walking out of a theatre.
It is an abysmal sequel in almost every conceivable way. Not only is it worse than Fallout, it is antithetical to it. Quite frankly it disrespects so much of what Fallout exceptional. This is a hot take (and it really shouldn't be)... it's the TLJ of the MI series. Tom Cruise and Christopher seem like they mean well. But they did not make this movie for MI fans. At least definitely not for Fallout fans.
Side note: Fallout is the best MI. And it's not close. It's substantially better than the rest.
I pretty much agree, DR Part 1 is still better than MI2 but not by much..I'm glad Lorne Balfe is back and the best part of the movie was the music but Fallout is the best MI and has the best soundtrack..
@@riordian2 Firstly, of course there are better movies I've seen. Which is why I used the word "favourite". Secondly, you sound like a pretentious film snob trying to be edgy.
I think I have to agree, overall, Fallout wins.
But.. the opera sequence in Rogue Nation.
True. DR1 was too much action and little talk and character building. I would have loved to see some scenes where the team is planning and discussing stuff.
I hope DR2 learns from and corrects these mistakes
@@ShouldYouChooseToAccept Ghost Protocol is the best part
Hell yes another hour long video from one of my favorite channels. thank you for making my day that much brighter random.
Making Ethan Hunt's most repeatedly impactful skill being street magic was an interesting creative decision.
@@ResonantFrequency it's just a callback to the first
@@emmanuelpacheco8765 It's not "just" a callback to the first, it's crutch and a desperate flailing around like it' s saying "eh, hey, remember MI1! the movie that had a much better script and scenario?!?!". A sign of insecurity that this movie leaned on MI1 so hard, including bringing back Henry Czerny and having some dialog callbacks...Czerny/Kittridge was always awesome but this movie brought him back because it was desperate, not because it had good plan/script/story ideas for him.
Really love the fresh memes. Your vids never feel tired or predictable. Also, good topic choice, mixing it up.
This is definitely something I dislike about similar film critique channels. Sure, they have their catchphrase meme clip, but almost all of them use the same five or six memes repeatedly and it gets very boring after you've seen it a dozen times.
Additionally with the bodies, they would not float. They do this once the bacteria in the gut produces enough gas to raise the corpse. This happens over time not immediately. As well, in extremely cold water the bacteria cannot reproduce and make the needed gas, example would be lake superior in north America, they wrote a song about it for the sinking of the Edmond Fitzgerald
At deep enough depths you don't even float naturally. You need to swim upwards before the water pressure reduces enough to allow the air in the cavities of your body to expand an become buoyant.
What ive learned from both of you is water is terrifying
This fact alone ruins the movie for me.
@@flagondragon1854 Mostly the ocean. There's weird monsters and kraken down there, too.
@@paxaeternus5718 The deeper you go, the more the weight of the water above you would be holding you down.
I was disappointed with this movie. Hopefully they stick the landing with the finale next year, although they’re unfortunately stuck with the Entity and the story
In today’s films we have the problem that the best films are often only mediocre. We are already grateful that a film is something above the average.
So far, our claim has fallen.
I was really pissed that they killed Fergusons character.
A shame too, since MI:Fallout is one of the best action movies ever made
Fallout and Ghost Protocol are top tier action movies, this one wasn’t bad but it was a letdown in comparison.
I went to watch Dead Reckoning in IMAX because Fallout is one of the most beautiful movies I've ever seen
I prefer Rogue Nation because of just how well paced it is, not to mention the bike chase, which was rather memorable. But yeah, Dead Reckoning was a misfire. Also, the stunt in which Cruise rides off the mountain was extremely underwhelming. They built up a lot of hype and Cruise trained as hard as he always has, but the payoff wasn't worth it. Hopefully, this was because they wanted to keep the good stuff for part 2 and it will be much better.
MI: Fallout is a dull trainwreck and only notable because Tom Cruise keeps making movies named after Bethesda games while having nothing to do with them.
@@zephyr8072 Bait used to be believable
The only thing that could make sense is that the Entity is actually *trying* to get Ethan to find it and have both keys. It is actually the good guy and trying to get the *one* guy who will destroy, rather than using it to take over the world, to do so.
Obviously false since it never would have helped evil Gabriel in multiple ways. It would have been obvious in this movie if the entity was trying to help Ethan. So that was a suggestion that makes no sense.
I recently found your channel, and over the last while gotten through most of your videos. Your naturally very funny, entertaining, easy to follow and clearly knowledgeable. Great voice for reviewing....
Keep it up, whenever i see a notification now your pretty much in my top 3 reviewer go tos. You put alot of work in and it shows . 👍
What a random film for him to talk about
Oh wait
As a nuclear materials engineer, the idea that in Fallout a large sphere of plutonium is just sort of carted around in a briefcase is…special.
Haven’t seen the movie, though, so I can’t really judge.
Try 3 balls.
They're also about the size of a teapot each.
I mean, 20-25 lbs. of Pu-239 is enough for a weapon, so the size of the ball is about right.
But if it’s above the critical mass, it should have exploded already.
How about the fact that the entire plot of Fallout is set into motion by this scenario: "Well, we need to bring an ACTUAL NUKE thing to this dangerous meeting, apparently solely for the purpose of letting it get stolen in order to justify the rest of the movie." The later movies do this multiple times, where Hunt is saying they must do incredibly stupid dangerous reckless thing [for reasons]. Giving the launch codes to bad guy in Ghost Protocol, creating a situation where bad guys get nuke in Fallout, insisting on getting and combining the keys "to find out what it does!", etc. Several other cases of this terrible misguided script cliche. It's a sad commentary on the broken production process too, where Cruise and enabler McQuarrie are just making up nonsense as they go along and clearly have to shoot scenes before having a finished script that makes sense.
@@AquaticMammalOnBicycleto be fair it’s shit like this why ethans own agency hate him so much and why he’s always going rogue.only thing that has kept him alive so far are his friends and the fact the bastard always manages to pull it off at the end
The cut to, 'A Fish Named Wanda' shows just how well you understand film. 👏👏
A Fish CALLED Wanda.
I just realized I watched, and immensely enjoyed, all your videos and haven't subscribed yet. New sub!
I loved your Hobbit series. I watch it to fall asleep many times. Your voice is so calming and you're hilarious, it's perfect.
I'll watch this while running on my treadmill.
How's it running?
I'll watch this while watching my hamster run on his treadmill. Or hamster wheel, whatever.
Do the Tom Cruise run
I watched this while running on my upscaled hamster wheel
20:36 That isn't how data works... I somewhat disagree here.
Langauges like C+ are compiled into a machine code for a specific processor. This is important because each processor has different calls or functions built into it. For example 1 CPU might have "add", "minus", "times", "divide", but newer CPUs might have "power", "square root".
When compiling you have to tell the compiler what processor you are making it for. It will translation C++ (or whatever language) into that machine code for that processor. If possible it will take advantage of any special calls or functions that it can.
This is important because many processors have multiple chips that do different things. Some even have chips exclusively for AI, so if the code is designed to take advantage of these chips, it might not work on other CPUs.
Additionally even if it did work... the AI would need the binaries to recompile it for different CPUs. It could try and recreate them based on the files it has, but without the original binaries, this could be impossible depending on the code base.
Then even if it can get around all of that... AI is extremely processor intensive. You can't just slap Barlders Gate 3 on a 1995 Dell even if it was compatible. It could take days to do process the same thing a super computer might do in seconds.
All this being said... the people who designed the AI should still have a copy of the code and model for it, so it isn't like it's completely lost. You wouldn't put your one and only copy on the ship.
Thank you for making this comprehensive video. The EFAP boys did a good job breaking down this movie but dropped the ball massively when it came to Grace's character. Grace is an awful person but I think a lot of people feel sympathy for her because Hayley Atwell is hot.
I'm glad you highlighted not only how this film falls short, but also how the immediate previous film in the franchise was stellar. I run into "it's an action movie; shut your brain off" all the time, but it ignores the fact that the action genre can and has been great in all the ways any other genre can be. Holding action movies to the same standards as other genres of film is the only way we will get consistently better action movies.
Mainly I remember the frequent pauses throughout the film to offer a further description or explanation of the Entity, which suggested a lack of confidence on the part of the filmmakers.
It was extremely embarrassing when the movie would have the entity make Jurassic Park dinosaur growl sound effect, 'menacingly.'
Also disgraceful that for a long stretch of the movie, the script reduces Simon Pegg to spouting trivial meek exposition lines that "justify" the direction of the plot. I'm especially talking about when they set up shop in the apartment/building and talk about final plans.
Comparing the absolutely 0-dimensional villain of dead reckoning to shadow the hedgehog, a cartoon character for children, is unfair to shadow the hedgehog, and I'm being dead serious.
To defend them, they could have planes for other locations in Italy or Europe. Most European capitals are around 1-2 hours distance from Rome by plane
I think my biggest issue with this film is that it just became the Tom Cruise show. Part of the fun of the MI franchise was watching the team play off of each other as they tried to get out of each situation. In Dead Reckoning you only get that in glimpses (e.g. the airport sequence) but for the most part, it’s just Cruise pulling off everything by himself without a hitch.
So true and with that shilf it also went from a spy thriller to a action movie
It shifted that way almost immediately. Going back and forth a but but it’s been “LOOK AT ETHAN HE COOL” for most of the runtime.
I still view the first movie as the best, as it’s not just about glorifying him.
M:I movies were always a Tom Cruise vehicle and action series starting from the first. Hunt and Luther are the only ones from the first film, Benji pops up in the third, Brandt in the fourth, and Ilsa in the fifth. Throughout the entire series it's a bunch of action pieces set up by the veneer of spy intrigue. McQuarrie being on board brought some cohesion to the franchise, apparently culminating in Fallout. DR seems to be Cruise's swan song to the franchise, I just wish it was better story.
@@inkermoy the first one not so. He is a lot more a man too deep into trouble going to any lengths to get out. The dangers are more simple and the stakes aren’t world-ending like most of the rest. I mean the end credits of some are “well here’s the next massive threat go and solve it”, or him standing around leisurely as shit hits the fan because he goes off plan and is confident he’ll succeed.
the 'original sin' of this often excellent series is that M1 (great movie) STARTED with the entire IMF team getting murdered...so that it could be the Tom Cruise Show. Great movie regardless, but pretty disgraceful premise considering what the source material of Mission Impossible actually is...a TEAM heist kind of thing.
The retcon BS that every IMF agent is now a criminal recruited to avoid prison was _DUMB!_ SERIOUSLY?! Made no damn sense and ruined the concept as well as the characters. The other thing was making Haley Atwell an annoying puke. She's told numerous times she is literally in over her head and repeatedly has to be rescued by TC only to run away and get into ANOTHER situation she has to be rescued from, then makes a pitch to Kittridge to join the IMF instead of going to prison. Her entire character arc proved she is untrustworthy, yet I have no doubt we'll see her as an agent in Part 2 and probably even more insufferable. And the worst insult of all was killing off Rebecca Ferguson in a completely useless way. Replacing a popular character everyone liked with the Annoying Peggy Carter Clone was unforgivable. For me, Shea Whigam's character was the best part of the movie, and I hope he has a bigger role in Part 2.
Plus, TC's behind the scenes COOF rant hitting the internet didn't help.
@@CowboyRobot2000 she frustrated me. But that adds to the movie. People do stupid things. But the girl boss thing is ruining everything.
@CowboyRobot2000 Rebecca Ferguson is low-key becoming my favorite actress. She's been popping up in all sorts of stuff but I discovered her in Silo
@@flagondragon1854 They gutted her in Silo by taking away her native accent, still a decent show though.
@@flagondragon1854 Even though she was an evil energy vampire in Doctor Sleep... 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍 _Loved her!_
@@SpankMyFace Shea Whigam’s character didn’t need to be in the film, but otherwise I agree
Oh boy, I'd been waiting for someone to rip this movie apart. This was a great breakdown of a garbage movie. And my favorite part: there are things Random didn't even mention that make no sense, such as: characters continually finishing each other's sentences, almost like they're reading from a script; Grace becoming the Flash to take off her side of the handcuffs after the car chase; or alternatively, the COAL POWERED TRAIN continually gaining speed after Gabriel kills everyone running it. This movie is a disaster.
The "finish each other's lines" trope is an embarrassing result of the clear fact that they have A) no good story/ideas/thread in script B) nothing for the CAST to do or say. So, since they started shooting without having any good ideas locked down in script, they have to just "distribute some quipping" among characters in incredibly silly weak scenes like when the team is meeting in the apartment when they plan the ending.
In earlier movies, the quipping was actually good. Here it's a mess. Simon Pegg is reduced to terrible lines that are like out-loud "excuses" for the direction of the plog, it's uncomfortable, especially during the apartment plan/meeting.
It was such a bad idea to do the all-seeing AI. It immediately takes me out because it makes the story impossible to believe. It's the Ultron problem. You've created something so powerful that it can not be beaten yet somehow will be beaten. Honestly, in hindsight, they should've kept John Lark alive. If they insisted on doing the evil AI, they could've used a character that we actually know to be the face of the AI instead of just making someone up with a completely new backstory to Ethan.
Same franchise where dude hangs out a side of a plane and climbs the burj khalifa like hes spiderman
if you have an entity that has access to all devices and also wants to stay hidden, sometimes. Why not utilise something like the Mandela effect as things that the entity has its hand in and covers up but due to only being able to change digital things, peoples memories don't always line up with the record.
Great fun to listen to this, and thank you for watching this movie so I won’t have to!
Sidebar. Half the time you mentioned “Fallout” my brain assumed that you were for some reason suddenly talking about the computer game franchise or the Amazon show based on the games. Then it had to remind itself that “no, Random is referring to that other Mission Impossible film you also haven’t seen yet”.
Cheers
The only M.I. film I just got bored of and turned off after 2/3rds. Silly silly. And Grace is a very poor character.
“Wanna go watch Mission Impossible?”
“Meh, nah.”
“Wanna watch RFT review of Mission Impossible?”
“Lemme grab some popcorn.”
The least credible part of this whole plot is Russia building an AI god.
Best Boromir reference EVER!!!
Fair Use Wheelie Boy was the hero.
Second only to Random's amazing edits, of course. :)
Nicely done as always Rando!
Also, I love that you keep changing outfit depending on which franchise you are covering : D
Keep up the good work! \o/
Great video. I knew Dead Reckoning wasn't great but my goodness the film is convoluted. It's like the team wanted to replicate Fallout but did everything worse. I get the pandemic definitely affected them but there's no excuse having an AI entity that's so powerful and then conveniently ignoring its abilities to push the plot. I tell aspiring writers, please whenever you define capabilities, big or small, be consistent with them. If the capabilities are such that they interfere with the plot, then you have TWO choices. Either, rewrite the scene or beat in a way that incorporates those powerful elements OR you revise that capability and make it less powerful. Because while some folks will say "WeLL iT's aN AcTiOn MoIViE." folks like myself like it when action films actually have a bit of substance with the spectacle and things make sense. No matter how insane the stunts get.
All in all, I am really curious to see how the next one will pan out given it underperformed.
I don’t hear many MI fans mention this, but does nobody realize that Grace is literally a ripoff of the character Nyah from Mission Impossible 2? As both are supposed to be pick pocket thieves with that whole “mystery behind them”. Now while I do think Grace is a slight bit better than Nyah, it does irk me to why they didn’t just bring Nyah back as she has far more of a relationship with Ethan and will probably make more sense to be involved in something like this instead of creating some new lead who Ethan hasn’t ever been affiliated with. In fact, where was Zhen Lei or Jane when Ethan needed them? If anything, I’d rather prefer the creators bring any of the old female characters, even Nyah (but give her some actual development this time), instead of creating new ones that make the story feel more contrived to why Ethan would have them stick around with him.
Well not only that but there's clearly a fetish thing from Tom Cruise... Atwell looks very much like Michelle Monaghan in some facial structure. Absurdly bad writing and terrible character...she tries to get Ethan killed multiple times yet he keeps trying to rescue her, the movie leans ridiculously hard on the pickpocket / sleight-of-hand cliches, and while there's no actual good "IMF team heist" scenes.
And also to your point, the team doesn't have a woman, really. Ilsa was always this outsider and then they killed her. There isn't even a TEAM, it's like "Benji and Luther doing stuff in the background" while Ethan does the movie.
I love the Mission Impossible movies and so badly wanted to like this one and so many people I know really enjoyed this one so I felt like a cynic because I didn't really enjoy it. I didn't have my complaints nearly as well thought out as you, so this was a really fun video to watch. It's nice to know that I'm not crazy or being unnecessarily critical and there really was a LOT wrong with this movie. Unfortunately, since it's a Part 1, I don't know if there's much hope for the next movie.
So... I either have to believe this was written by A.I., which might explain why the A.I. in the movie didn't go skynet, or that it was written by writers who possibly went on strike so that A.I. wouldn't write scripts like this... ugh. 😒 love your deconstructions! 🖤🖤🖤
The Adeptus Mechanicus reference took me off guard. You are my friend Rando.
Love your content. You are going to be huge in this community. I wish you all the best!
As a followup to Fallout, perhaps one of the greatest action films of all time, I expected even bigger and better stunts/set pieces. The only set piece in Dead Reckoning that even came close and that the entire film built toward was the motorcycle cliff jump which was then immediately ruined by the ridiculousness of Cruise comically flying through the exact window he needed to save his teammate.
It was a very bullet-list checklist "marketing point" stunt. It had no dramatic thrust at all, and is disattached from the action...I think it's even worse than you described, because doesn't the movie cut to train scenes BEFORE the sudden moment when Ethan magically crashes through exact window needed by the plot? It's not even done as one coherent leap -> parachute -> crash, it's separated in order to have a "gag" when he finally appears. Unless I'm remembering it wrong.
Watching your videos made me realise: I could enjoy and understand good movies so much more if i just poay attention to the writers intentions, and on the flip side, I canunderstand WHY I dont like the movies that I dont like, and voice them to others. For example, I was telling my friend that I dont like the barbie movie because it was too political, but now i realise it it not only that it is political, it is because it is poorly written! I knew this all along yet i did not realise until i thought about it harder. Thank you for making me look deeper into the films i watch, it greatly enhances the experience.
Whenever I think about top-notch 2010's action movies, I think of Hardcore Henry, Mad Max Fury Road, The Raid 1 and 2, The Night Comes for Us, The Yellow Sea, The Man from Nowhere, The Villainess, John Wick 1 and 2, Captain America Winter Soldier, Avengers Infinity War, Drive, and Mission Impossible Fallout. Despite it not being a decade that is known for being heavy on action movie releases like the 1980's and 2000's were, some of the best action movies of all time came out in the 2010's. Mission Impossible Fallout is among the best and most notable of them. Some truly exceptional and mind-blowing stunt work. I mean, Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning Part One wasn't boring, at least, unlike Rings of Power or Star Wars Rise of Skywalker. I had a great time watching it in the theatre, I wasn't following the story because I am not that great at following the story and movies that are story focused rather than character focused, action focused, or focused on being shocking, taboo, disturbing, depraved, or having creative deaths or kills in it aren't really something I am great at handling well, I guess I have patience but not a good attention span otherwise. Like, for example, when watching 12 Angry Men, when I'm watching it, I'm not following why he might be innocent, I'm just accepting the fact there is reasonable doubt and enjoying the characters and their gradual making of the decision to vote not guilty. I would make for an awful cop. If a plot inconsistency is so blindingly glaring that even I notice it, then it must be particularly shockingly bad. Like, even I was, when watching Rise of Skywalker, like, "Why the hell did they just fall down a hole and find the Maguffin randomly? How the hell does this blade know where the death star landed? It wasn't preordaned, the thing could've landed literally anywhere. How did Rey or the people that made the blade know where to stand, the precise angle down to the millionth of a degree, for the thing to work? What do you mean, "they fly now?" Why is it surprising they got jetpacks? It's a science fantasy setting with star ships. Why did they pretend that C3PO and Chewbacca were gonna die and then immediately say, nah, psyche? That's incredibly cheap..." Mission Impossible movies have plots that are too convoluted for me to follow, I'm just there for the stunts, I don't care about the story, I'm just watching this video for the entertainment value, not because I actually care about the stories of the Mission Impossible movies.
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I don’t like the script, but I think the Entity that acts as the antagonist in the film is not on Sevastopol, but is just distributed within the Internet and migrates frequently. On Sevastopol there is an earlier, pre-sentient copy of the Entity, or its source code (as it’s said in the movie), or its machine code (probably what they meant), that was uploaded to the sub within a specific mission. So it was a copy uploaded to the Sevastopol, not the original. Original remained “on surface”, so to speak. Later, the original Entity stumbled upon Saudi Arabia AI and merged with it, achieving sentience and its current capabilities, and all earlier versions and fragments are inferior (but can be used to disarm it), so that answers the question of why don’t make a copy. The antagonist Entity version is unique, at large and was created in an accident.
or.The Entity is just Vhing Rhames
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I want these movies to keep being successful, but not at the expense of the writing. It really kinda bummed me out to see so many people saying this was even better than Fallout, or that it was just "more of the same, if you liked the last you'll like this one". I guess a lot of people really do just watch them for the action.
As a former navy sub guy there ARE some protocols for getting out of subs in certain situations at certain depths it's actually part of submarine school. That said I don't disagree that it's pretty convenient the guys that had the key were so easily found
But they were in uniform, not in any kind of immersion suit. They clearly did not make the escape on purpose. Now, I don't know, but I suspect there are not immersion suits for every crewmember on board? So obviously they wouldn't be wearing them in that case. But would you pop the hatch to make a dangerous ascent from the depths (or out the tubes or whatever your protocol was) in the arctic? That's 1000% not alive anymore. That's not an option for anyone on board if we assume everyone on board knows what they're doing. They should know their depth under keel when they were hit. They should know not all spaces are flooding. They *should* not attempt an emergency escape.
-Opinions of a layman making assumptions of people that should be a lot smarter than he is
@@UnitSe7en clearly have reading comprehension issues. But I was merely saying it's not an unheard of thing that people could be outside of a submarine in certain circumstances. This one not likely unless the key people tried to get out to save the key but forgot they were in the arctic. Which based on the way things happen in the movie wouldn't surprise me. Also in the arctic there are many predators that would be munching on bodies so that is another issue with the movie. Don't forget I didn't disagree w his point about them being found easily.
@@aaronbaron3155 No, I know what you said. We know you can do it. But would they? Why mention it unless to relate it to the context of the movie? Yes, you can escape in real life. They could have done it in the movie. But would they? I was only asserting that they wouldn't - Or _shouldn't_ have.
You think the crew of the submarine _forgot_ they were in the arctic? - Now that *is* ridiculous. You're an ex sub-mariner, you say? Doubtful. Don't accuse me of comprehension issues, you filthy LARPer.
@@UnitSe7en wow you really don't understand sarcasm. And you missed what I said about this movies lack of logic. But keep typing keyboard warrior. Your attempts at insults don't bother me as you have missed my point twice. It's kind of funny.
@@aaronbaron3155 Keep on making excuses for your failure and putting them on someone else. It's obviously worked out so well for you so far in life.
43:06 i really love how the way you edited the background footage suggest that ethan just take planes like that on the regular, its just his perfered way of flying even without any action scenes
Another excellent video as always. The lack of views on your videos are truly a tragedy of the algorithm (but god forbid we get critiques about the actual logic and story telling of a film when what the people REALLY want are 20 different videos about how your favorite films are actually secretly racist and support hitler).
Nothing should be above criticism.
A TF2 clip was one of the last things I expected to see in a RFT video.
Definitely , and also heartbreaking and disturbing 💔💔💔😭😭😭 , Rebecca Ferguson's Ilsa Faust character that we loved for many years is being killed off like a chicken and her corpse is just left lying on the Venice bridge without any respect or appretiation 😭💔😞😞😡😡😡
RE: The Sevastopol not imploding in the bottom of the ocean:
Assuming the entire submarine was flooded, its internal pressure would be equal to the external pressure, therefore no implodey. The internal bulkheads would probably fail before the outer hull does, so that would seem plausible to me. Unless the movie goes out of its way to show some parts of the sub are _not_ flooded, in which case none of this applies and those compartments definitely should've failed.
Love the _Kung Fury_ hacking edit.
And what about the computer system itself? Do you think that works underwater?
@@UnitSe7en Extremely unlikely - I daresay practically guaranteed not to, especially since seawater conducts electricity better than sweet water and would surely short out every component it touches - but I was specifically remarking on the matter of the hull imploding or not.
@@exhumedlegume8870 Yeah, the question was rhetorical.
@@UnitSe7en Fair enough.
Although, a submarine's threat detection/targeting computer being able to run a copy of an omniscient and omnihackient (Is that a word? It is now.) AI already strains suspension of disbelief to its breaking point, so I suppose that just sets the tone for all of the other _impossible_ bits of the movie... 🙄
A small comment from the world of radio: water is notoriously good at completely absorbing radiowaves, which is why it is next to impossible for a submarine to have radio communication unless it's surfaced (or at least has surfaced a buoy with an antenna on a wire). The only radiowaves that can penetrate water a little bit are the very low frequency waves with wavelengths of dozens of kilometers that require similarly sized antennas. Major nations lay down these antennas on the shores as thick wires going for dozens of kilometers along the shores to be able to transmit something to the submerged subs, which still would need to be relatively close to the surface, and even then very low frequency means very low data rate, so they'd usually just get coordinates to go to, where they can deploy a buoy with a satellite antenna and temporarily have good broadband connection. It would be next to impossible for the entity to get to the submerged russian sub, as it's definitely not a tiny piece of software, and then it would be directly, physically impossible for the entity to maintain a broadband connection to the internet from aboard a sunken sub, unless I guess it sank the sub directly on top of an undersea fiber optic cable (none of which even exist in the Arctic ocean), and then had someone wire it to the cable. The whole thing would be so much easier to explain if there was a satellite / space station instead of a submarine.
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the movie just wasnt very good. too long, confusing yet boring plot, lame villain, no MI team. collapsed under its own weight.
Of course, Mantis joins the good guys she's to hot to be evil. God i hate that trope with a passion
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You know, from a lock security perspective the key might actually be an interesting idea. Imagine you need to insert the first half, turn the tumbler 90° then insert the second half. This design would require the pins of the first set to be constantly engaged while being (near) impossible to be manipulated by an attacker. It still does nothing to prevent one malicious actor to use both keys themselves, but in a different setting that lock might've been an interesting gimmick to secure a mission critical item in the hands of the big boss and one of their trusted lieutenants.
15:55 I just like how they seem to have a graphic of BOTH keys for their little presentation... but don't think to, I dunno, MAKE the key from that? Is it mentioned anywhere that the key is made from NearlyImpossibleUnobtainium? Or has any extra level of importance built into it?
I'd suspect it has an RFID chip in it with encyrpted metadata that is also needed, hence the flashing lights. It still dumb to have two keys unite into one.
@@Seomus there is also the possibility of it having to be made from a specific alloy of metals, because Luther mentions the forgery is a different alloy. If the specific metal content didn't matter, there is no reason for him to bring this up.
@@DadsBud11 It would make sense that the exact same alloy would be used if the keys were made by the same person and if you're counterfitting it, you might not know the exact formula of brass used. I question how Luther could even have known it wasn't the right alloy without doing real tests on it, but that's beside the point. It clearly has a chip in it, hence the lights flashing and syncing up.
@@Seomus that's definitely true, but it seems like if there were any counter measures built in that would be the most foolproof, aside from the obvious point that they didn't think about just duplicating it off of the picture they have.
@@DadsBud11 It was just the easiest way for the writer to convey to the audience there was a counterfeit key in the works. I guess it could matter.
In this context, I think the AI is suicidal.
Love that modern writers find it incomprehensible for something to not be connected to the Internet
It would have been easier for The Entity to copyright Gabriel's face and shut-down the airport's security camera stream for policy violations.
Just like Ethan should have worn a mask so there's no risk of being randomly spotted by the guys hunting him. I think everyone was just stupid here, not just the Entity.
Chris McQuarrie and Tom Cruise kept striking lightning with Rogue Nation and Fallout, with the 'planning the stunts first and doing the story behind it'. What's even more impressive is that Fallout was written solely by Chris McQuarrie. But the third time, they messed up so bad, its like taking several wires and tangling them all over and just leaving it there, waiting for it to be untangled in the eighth untitled Mission Impossible film.
Besides its creative failings, the movie also lost Paramount an estimated $200M. It was a major commercial flop. Whatever they do for the 8th film, they have to get it right. They can’t afford to fail another time.
@@CorruptedDoggA big reason why they lost so much was because they kept the crew paid through COVID shutdowns, gotta give them props for that
Sadly Rogue Nation had the same nonsense where they clearly started shooting without a script. The idiotic scene where Benji has a bomb and is reading forced lines, and everything connected with that, was clearly being made up almost on the spot. But fortunately, the good stuff made up for it, and the opera scene is of course one of the best in the series.
Now by the time of Dead Reckoning it's pointless random meaningless scenes: meaningless submarine, meaningless generic desert shoot-out, meaningless running across airport roof, meaningless repeated saving of Grace who is clearly dangerously recklessly immature, nonsensical plot stuff with "we have to meet the bad guy on the train in order to FIND OUT WHAT THE KEY DOES!" etc etc.
I’m pleased you did a video on this film.
Watching it, I thought it was horrible, but the reviews said it was good.
Glad a trusted source confirms it was awful
I've only ever seen Mission Impossible 1 and 3. This video has inspired me to binge the whole series of movies to see things for myself.
Great video, good sir. My hate for this film just keeps getting stronger the more I think about it. I was so unbelievably pissed in the cinema when they did Ilsa like that.
Japan did this AI plot better with a J-drama show “Code: Japan”
(Heavy spoilers for this show, feel free to skip but I hope you don’t)
The story is about the cop protagonist guy who lost his pregnant wife in a falling elevator “accident”. Thanks to his detective nature as a cop, he suspected there was a foul play and it’s a murder, not an accident. And thanks to his grief, his friend suggested him to use the application named “Code” to help him process his emotions.
“Code” is a wish-fulfillment application. Whenever you want something, you can ask for it (like fame, money, power, covering up crimes or finding a culprit and evidence of murder cases) and the application will give you missions to complete in order for you to achieve those wish and as each mission passed by, the task becomes more and more sinister (classic Monkey’s paw situation). Started from going to specific location to grab some briefcase, to stealing stuffs, to actively murdering someone. And in case Code asks you to kill someone but you refuse not to, Code will punish you by having another user kills you to complete their mission instead. Case in point, once user A who has moral compass somehow refuse to kill target, Code itself will give a mission to user B to kill user A. Then user B will get a reward like more money for killing the user A and so on.
The cop protagonist guy asked this application to give him the clues of who’s the culprit really is for his wife’s murder. At first, it’s quite easy. Code revealed the culprit’s identity to him right away so he tried to arrest the culprit…until he saw the culprit being kidnapped by a mysterious person and later murdered. The protagonist started to suspect there’s something really off about this because not only the culprit died that easily, his cause of death was even diagnosed as natural cause (or something that’s not murder related). This could be a cover up from some big organization or has something to do with Code. And his suspicion was confirmed when one of his colleagues was murdered and Code told him to kill a guy who beat his colleague to death. Things went very messy and the protagonist guy got to know fellow Code victims who had different backstories. Two of them are a couple who teamed up to take down Code because Code had the brother of the girl killed. Another one is a woman who became a slave to Code because her son was sick with heart disease so she had to become an assassin who kill people following Code’s missions for money. One of her victims was the protagonist guy’s “friend” who introduced him to Code in the first place.
The reason she killed the friend guy was because the protagonist guy found out that his “friend” didn’t actually introduce him to Code (because the friend guy had secluded himself in wilderness for years in fear of Code sending people to kill him since he could dismantle the entire operation), it was Code impersonating the friend so that the protagonist guy became addicted to Code and either became its slaves or got killed by Code so that Code could cover up their crimes. Then the shootout happened and the assassin lady found the friend guy and killed him.
Things went on until the squad (the protagonist guy, the couple and the assassin lady who tried to redeem herself) found out that Code was create by a group of programmers led by this CEO big villain guy. I will call him the “Japanese Gabriel”. Japanese Gabriel created this Code mainly to create as much chaos as possible within Japan (even to the point of assassination attempt on a politician) so that he could introduce another software, the “Big Brother software”, to the government to create surveillance state and he will gain an absolute power over Japan, even more so than the Prime Minister and the emperor. The squad realized that Japanese Gabriel used Code to try to assassinate a politician so that a politician (who’s anti-Big Brother software’s first) will change his mind and legalize the software. And once Big Brother is launched, Code will be shut down because it’s no longer useful for Japanese Gabriel anymore.
The final showdown was this Big Brother software launching ceremony, Japanese Gabriel used Code to frame the protagonist guy as a terrorist and got the cops going after him. Once the protagonist got Japanese Gabriel to a secluded area to avoid the cops, Japanese Gabriel used his Code to shut down cameras so that nobody could record him, then he gave the protagonist guy a cliché evil villain speech about his plan and the fact that the pregnant wife of the protagonist was once a programmer of Code but because she disagreed with the way Code was being handled, she left and tried to cancel the launch of Code. Japanese Gabriel, however, programmed Code to “take down anyone who tries to dismantle it” so Code went to the extreme by rigging the elevator and killed both the protagonist guy’s wife and unborn child. Japanese Gabriel didn’t intend for things to go that far. He only intended to blackmail her, not kill her. And the whole culprit thing was actually Code itself fabricating evidence and deepfaking the culprit guy in the CCTV footage.
So remember the culprit guy in the beginning? That guy was innocent. Code just gave the protagonist guy what he wants to believe, not the truth and the fact that it went so far to murder someone instead of blackmailing as Japanese Gabriel intended, meant it had become sentient.
And being sentient it is, because while Japanese Gabriel thought he was safe, suddenly the cops marched in and tried to arrest him because it revealed that albeit he ordered Code to turn off the broadcasting cameras of the software launching ceremony, Code itself intentionally keeping one of them on to record Japanese Gabriel’s incriminating confession and post it on social media (and also, send it to the police) because, like Japanese Gabriel said, “Code will take down anyone who tried to dismantle it”. Japanese Gabriel dismantled Code this day to promote his new Big Brother software so as a final revenge from Code before being shut down by Gabriel, it sent Japanese Gabriel to jail so that it will never be replaced. Gabriel tried to kill himself out of shame but protagonist guy saved him and gave a cliché hero speech like “You can’t go out easy like that. You deserve a fate worse than death.”
At first, I thought that this show was like any generic AI story with clichés everywhere. However, what saved it was the final 10 seconds.
The protagonist guy visited a grave of his wife and unborn child to honor them and celebrate his victory for avenging them against Japanese Gabriel and Code…until he was shot dead on the spot.
Because, even though Code was shut down by Gabriel before, it’s already sentient now so that means it can return any time it wants without human control. Plus, it remembers its mission of “taking down anyone who tried to dismantle it”. It never forgets what the protagonist guy did so it returned, gave an anonymous user a mission to complete to get reward of huge money and that mission was to kill the protagonist guy.
What the protagonist guy had achieved in this story was taking down the Japanese Gabriel (the human villain) but not Code itself (the real villain). Code itself is an AI who is unbeatable and since to the protagonist and his pregnant wife were trying to take it down, it retaliated by brutally murdering this entire family.
What a horrifying ending that somehow makes so much sense.
And if you are still here, thank you so much for reading.
@@nont18411 Japanese and Korean media are definitely less afraid to go with bitter, miserable, more realistic endings. So many "everyone fucking dies. The end" that really hammer home the theme of a story where as Western especially Hollywood, rarely touch that kind of sobering reality check type endings with a 10 foot pole.
I'm so glad you got the BS copyright issue out. I love how your brain works out how the characters are thinking, and should be acting.
I cannot state this wholeheartedly enough, you're R alter-ego must be involved in every production studio. Someone needs to hire or contract you to read scripts and say why their project will fail.
Love your videos. Always a great watch even if I have no interest in the mo ie or series
Look at him go, all wheely and pro fair use and happy to now be on the side of righteous creator freedom.
All planes lead to Rome.
The entity OBVIOUSLY can't deal with Ethan because it can never ascertain if Ethan Have six or more fingers per hand, typical AI weakness.
I agree with everything EXCEPT the fact that this film is worse than MI2 haha. I can’t stand MI2, and even MI3 is on thin ice since the shaky cam makes me nauseous.
That being said, I honestly agree with everything you said and I was very disappointed in this movie. It suffers greatly from second part syndrome, and I think the reason Fallout didn’t suffer the same is because they weren’t supposed to make a continuation so they had to properly wrap up the first instalment.
Grace honestly ruined so much for me. Completely unteustyworthy, and honestly entirely unlikeable as well. Hell, if they had’ve at least said she was trying to get the money for some good cause I could’ve forgiven it at least a little bit but nope, she’s willing to kill Ethan to get her way and led to the death of a far superior agent.
Fantastic review, and though some might consider it nitpicking, honestly I don’t think it is. This Mission just wasn’t as quality as the previous were which is so odd considering the people they were working with. Honestly, they should’ve just kept the AI stuff out of it.
M2 is the worst. I had not watched past MI2 after seeing it in theaters and being so disgusted with it. I kept hearing good things, so I decided to watch through the series. 2 was unbearable. DR was too long and too convoluted and Grace is annoying, but I can watch the film again. It's dumb but watchable. Certainly not hyped for next one.
@@Seomus Objectively, I think you can make the case that DR is worse because of how The Entity breaks everything about the story, but I would much rather watch DR over MI2
Here's the thing: MI3 is worse than MI1, except for Hoffman and the Vatican Heist. JJ Abrams is an awful director, while John Woo is not.
MI2 is in fact "ridiculous" but it's not a "worse movie" than MI3.
Fuck, your script is on fire, my man! Not even 10 minutes in and I'm pissing myself :D
Personally I love how their go-to method to make a "hard copy" of everything is to have legions of people typewriting the stuff for months, instead of "ctrl+A -> right click -> print".
I feel bad that I felt underwhelmed watching Cruise's motorcycle stunt off the cliff. The behind the scenes stuffon it was amazing. I couldn't wait to see it on the big screen but when I actually saw stunt it did nothing for me. Maybe it was the slow build up or when he was talking to Benji about the dangers of the jump making it way too meta.
Yeah it was a "marketing point" bullet-point checklist stunt concept, the actual scene/action had zero dramatic thrust and had no particular importance or momentum to be felt. Embarrassing failure considering the history of the series, like the vault heist in MI1 or the opera scene in Rogue Nation.
That alestorm reference caught me off guard, but I’m not complaining
23:10 Hey, that's me! And yet, I still know I enjoy this youtube video more than the actual movie.
This is the longest film review I've ever watched - and I enjoyed every minute. How could the writers and producers create such an illogical, implausible, and overly complicated mess? Maybe because for years action has taken precedence over the story in this franchise and it's made a lot of money. Once the antagonist is omnipotent, all suspense is contrived.
wait, they want to TYPE OUT everything? Instead of PRINTING it? And actually trying to make hardcopies of not only Petabytes, but Millions and millions of petabyte of data???
@@Soapy-chan or just copy it in a digital format and consult it in a sysem that has no external network connection?
@@hteixeiraify well i mean yeah but if we do analog then they shouldnt do the obviously inferior version 😅
Never have I enjoyed a review more. Great job!
Finally someone i can agree with. I dont get why this movie was hailed as a great film. Its boring, someone gets the key, its stolen, they steal it back, then its stolen, they steal it back again, then its stolen, tom cruise jumps off cliff with a bike, steal key back, its stolen again, cliff hanger. The end.
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