Blade Runner 2049 - A Masterpiece... But A Terrible Sequel?

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  • An in-depth analysis of Blade Runner 2049.
    In this video I cover the best parts of the film, explore what makes a good sequel, respond to criticisms of 2049, and conclude with the various flaws 2049 suffers as a sequel to Blade Runner.
    Videos I respond to:
    Rob Ager - • BLADE RUNNER 2049 plot...
    Rageaholic - • Blade Runner 2049 is B...
    Michael Snow - • Blade Runner 2049 A Ve...
    E;R - • Semi: Blade Piller 2049
    Movieweb - • Blade Runner 2049 Has ...
    Cinemasins - • Everything Wrong With ...
    0:00 - Intro
    1:38 - Blade Runner
    5:56 - Blade Runner 2049
    9:13 - Joi
    13:47 - Luv
    19:40 - What Makes A Good Sequel?
    34:54 - Response to Criticisms of Blade Runner 2049
    36:45 - Response to Rob Ager's criticism
    46:08 - Response to Rageaholic's criticism
    48:10 - Response to Michael Snow's criticism
    50:01 - Response to E;R's criticism
    57:30 - Response to Movieweb's criticism
    1:07:31 - Response to Cinema Sins' criticism
    1:14:02 - Flaws with Blade Runner 2049 as a Sequel (conclusion)
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  • @jl.7739
    @jl.7739 9 місяців тому +37

    Funny how some people claim this film is sexist on the fact that the actresses are all attractive, when the main male characters are played by Ryan Gosling, Harrison Ford and Jared Leto.

  • @danis8455
    @danis8455 7 місяців тому +22

    Denis Villeneuve is the the last bastion of quality movie making.

  • @robinanwaldt
    @robinanwaldt 9 місяців тому +12

    Actually, even though I don’t think it matters much, BR2049 doesn’t fail the Bechdel test. In the scene between Luv and Lt. Joshi they briefly talk about the child, the sex of whom they don’t know and turns out to be female, thus having a scene between two named women talking about something other than a man and therefore passing the Bechdel test.

  • @EvanMonroe
    @EvanMonroe 4 роки тому +110

    Seventeen views?! Dude, this is good stuff. Fantastic thematic breakdown and critical analysis. Thanks for drawing the line between objectivity and subjectivity. I still need to pour some thought into this one and give it a rewatch. But I really think this film holds up under objective scrutiny. You deserve more views and I can’t wait to see what you do next.

    • @randomft
      @randomft  4 роки тому +16

      Thanks so much for the kind words dude, so happy you enjoyed the video!

    • @studiodevil666
      @studiodevil666 7 місяців тому

      Oh hey, funny seeing you here Evan

    • @RecluseBootsy
      @RecluseBootsy 4 місяці тому +4

      Even now at 24k views, this is still a criminally underrated reviewer. The man could be a film professor.

  • @aaanis_
    @aaanis_ 8 місяців тому +7

    Wow man!!! This is the BEST Blade Runner 2049 analysis. Just wow man, why not many views?????

  • @KhorneBrzrkr
    @KhorneBrzrkr 8 місяців тому +10

    1:01:49 I reject the idea that Joi is any way a “sexist” depiction. If she is sexist then K’s employment is misandrist. But no one will mention that. It’s human nature to want to be desired and find emotional connection. K, being an android, has to settle for Joi. Joi was was created to prey on the emotional needs of men. So she’d take that metaphysical form regardless. It would make no sense on any level for Joi to be anything more or less than she appears in the film. She’s designed to ease the mental and emotional burden of the customer. But let’s do a little thought experiment. What if K was homosexual? What form would Joi take? If your answer is anything but a dotting male companion you’re deluding yourself.

  • @yurikendal4868
    @yurikendal4868 Рік тому +27

    In the scene where Love just crushed Joy's emitter in the desert building, K was utterly defeated and broken on the ground. Love was done with K at that point. K wasn't her target, Decker was. That's Why I'm guessing Love didn't kill K outright at that point. He was simply an obstacle to get around, not destroy.

    • @jolinefields3460
      @jolinefields3460 Рік тому +2

      Yeah either way we definitely benefited 🥰😇

  • @deusakremosa
    @deusakremosa Рік тому +6

    at the end of the video you thank me???? Fuck off, mate! THANK YOU!!!!!! Excelent piece of work. A proper way to develop your ideas and share substantial criticism. Also enjoyed your "funny" review of Rings of Power... keep up, excelent stuff.

  • @KevinLopez-rl6wq
    @KevinLopez-rl6wq 3 роки тому +20

    Regarding Rob Ager's criticism of replicants coming to know that their false memories are implanted - I disagree with his argument. I have actually experienced a false memory that had a significant impact on my life. Once I realized that the memory was false by verifying through an email chain, that false memory still has an emotional impact on me.
    Also, many people remember their dreams and nightmares upon awaking and some even journal about it. These dreams and nightmares still have an emotional impact despite being "false memories".

    • @AW-uv3cb
      @AW-uv3cb Рік тому +8

      I think Westworld seasons 1 and 2 explore this question in depth. Sometimes it doesn't matter what's factually real. Sometimes what matters are the stories we tell ourselves about ourselves.

    • @davidh.4944
      @davidh.4944 Рік тому +6

      Just as I was thinking, too. The purpose of the memories was to engender emotional stability. The would not necessarily lose their function in that regard even if known-rationally-to be false, because the emotional effect happens at a deeper level.

  • @Vanayr
    @Vanayr Рік тому +16

    The original film was something I had to watch a few times to appreciate, and 2049 is no different. As the years have gone on, the original is one of my favorite films, and 2049 continues to be a story I love more and more (flaws included).
    You did an absolute amazing job with this review!

  • @kayne8222
    @kayne8222 Рік тому +14

    Im glad to see a positive review of this movie, I love this film and think it's underrated despite it flaws. There's so many hate reviews out there it's refreshing to see a long in depth well made critique of an "objectively" good film lol

  • @Princess_Feona
    @Princess_Feona Рік тому +6

    My son said something very simple to me after we watched the Sonic movie. He goes, “you can tell the people that made this movie really love Sonic.”
    Out of the mouths of babes.

  • @billb8246
    @billb8246 Рік тому +9

    Found your channel from your Hobbit videos. Then I checked out the RoP videos. Really enjoyed those. I also enjoyed this much older video, but it is certainly different. I actually really like the almost Dateline-y tone, especially from the critique critiquing section.
    Hope your channel continues to grow and I look forward to future videos.

  • @hurleymacfar
    @hurleymacfar 4 місяці тому +8

    I was stunned by how good looking 2049 was. Villeneuve and especially Deakins have got some god tier skills. Just found the channel... Great stuff! Accurate, well thought-out and brilliantly articulated insights. Subscribed and look forward to more content

    • @HeatherHolt
      @HeatherHolt 3 місяці тому

      Deakins is the man!

    • @toreadoress
      @toreadoress 2 місяці тому

      Blade Runner 2049 is like an angel born again.

  • @honzamantv3824
    @honzamantv3824 Рік тому +4

    I dont udnerstand how is this channel so small ... Great work man, please keep going !!!!

  • @petrus4
    @petrus4 Рік тому +3

    "When a simulation becomes indistinguishable from the real thing, does it cease to be a simulation?"
    Logically, no, it does not. The effect may become indistinguishable, but the cause remains different. It is still a good question, however.

  • @01talima
    @01talima Рік тому +3

    great vid thanks!
    apparently there is a deleted scene where its revealed Wallace actually calls everyone Love because he cant be bothered to learn thier names.
    someone said blade runner asked if deckard was human or not, 2049 said it didnt matter.
    if you havent seen it "like stories of old" does a fantastic deep dive really interesting stuff.
    two souls, dreadfully distinct, perishing in conflicting dreams of being interlinked

  • @Injustrial
    @Injustrial 11 місяців тому +3

    I came here after your later videos. Glad to see your earlier work is getting some love too, this is good stuff

  • @fratertzadkiel2863
    @fratertzadkiel2863 Рік тому +5

    I never picked-up the idea that K being called "Joe" by the advert for the Joi somehow cheapened his relationship with his own Joi. First, all kinds of bots know my name without me knowingly telling them. Second, he already knew that she was a simulation from the beginning, a mass-produced one at that. My only criticism is that maybe you sell a few more of those things if you don't give them creepy all-black eyes in the advert. It is up there with the "buried in skulls" reel that Zod shows Clark to recruit him. I was fortunate enough to see both films on a big screen with a great sound system. For 2049 the experience was enhanced by a freezing-cold cinema and the volume so high that the THX-certified speakers were topping-out. The added misery made the film even more poignant. On DVD they are still both great films, but they are clearly meant to be watched in the cinema.

    • @EgoEroTergum
      @EgoEroTergum 3 місяці тому

      Maybe all-black eyes are a fad in the future, like nose rings or eyebrow slashes.
      Something bizarre to make the same old seem new.

  • @gabrielhassan544
    @gabrielhassan544 11 місяців тому +8

    i absolutely adore rings of power for introducing me to you and the little platoon. absolutely incredible content that’s distinct, and very very smart. keep it up man

  • @Glorkish
    @Glorkish 6 місяців тому +2

    This needs more views. Great stuff even on second watch.

  • @ulgrimthemad
    @ulgrimthemad 9 місяців тому +3

    Found you through the rings of power and the hobbit this last month, and working through your back catalogue. All great, thoughtful revIews mate. This one is no exception. Deserves more views!

  • @lbeales842
    @lbeales842 11 місяців тому +6

    Genuinely one of, if not the best, film analysis video I’ve seen to date.👏

  • @klientproby
    @klientproby 9 місяців тому +3

    Am so glad to have come across this because while I really enjoyed Blade Runner with Harrison Ford, i found the new BR to be incredibly boring because this sort of theme is tiresome to me. Also, was disappointing because I guess I was expecting something else. Very interesting analysis. Thank you.

  • @jeremygernhaelder8783
    @jeremygernhaelder8783 Рік тому +7

    I haven't actually seen this movie yet...as a huge fan of the first, and given the climate of today's film, I honestly assumed they would just fuck it up...your review has made me want to go out and see this 💖💖💖

  • @jonbondMPG
    @jonbondMPG 9 місяців тому +5

    I'm amazed this only has 12K views, I'm pretty new to the channel, wondered in off the back of the Hobbit Trilogy and I am staggered by the thoughtful, well presented, coherent analysis and flow of all this content. Doubly so this coverage of BR2049.

  • @ORBrunner
    @ORBrunner Рік тому +11

    I think despite of being quite decent sequel Deni Villeneuve managed to make it such through the consistency of the world and its visual narrative
    The atmosphere is almost the same... but darker. The Tyrell became Wallace corporation - slightly more ambitious building... and more sinister. Idea of androids is even more refined and subjugating yet even more abusive and obedient.
    K is not second Dekkard but a mix of Dekkard with a Roy Batty. Dekkard just a connecting line between these time periods and the ending of this movie
    But in the end it is a K's story - how the wish and will can overcome artificial slavery even it is programmed and that will mean oblivion.
    Overall it is my favorite film from 2019 - still worthy to watch, looks amazing and sound design is superb.

  • @Robert_K_Wolf
    @Robert_K_Wolf Рік тому +2

    Man I must admit, you have way with words. Great work my good sir.

  • @christianayers622
    @christianayers622 9 місяців тому +2

    ive been recommending this movies for years as "blade runner 2077" thanks to cyber punk

  • @fractalfae5418
    @fractalfae5418 Рік тому +17

    The 1982 movie is extraordinary and when they announced Blade Runner 2049, the prospect of revisiting that world and its themes again was pretty exciting. When it hit the cinema however I found it to be a disappointing experience. Though the movie is visually breath-taking, both the plot and protagonist felt hard to engage with and as a result it felt a cold and emotionally disconnected experience (which in itself should have told me something I guess), and as a result I felt little compulsion to ever rewatch it. However, as a result of finding your channel through your hilarious breakdowns of Rings of Power, and then digesting this excellent examination and analysis of 2049, I've come to appreciate the movie in a new light. Your in depth study here is truly impressive and, while such detailed material clearly takes considerable work (and Rings of Power will likely be occupying your time for the foreseeable future I hope, because your dissection of the show is awesome!) it would be great to see you breakdown and analyse more movies, because you have a remarkable talent for it.

    • @randomft
      @randomft  Рік тому +3

      Thanks, yeah I adore BR2049 but until I had the idea of judging it as a sequel rather than just gushing about it I didn't really have any urge to do a video on it. Same with RoP, I see so many people either trashing the show or praising it for bad reasons, and very few people are actually making the arguments, which inspired me to actually explore it!

  • @kathyjacques2688
    @kathyjacques2688 9 місяців тому +3

    So what are the chances we'll ever see a sequel to 2049? Only if it was done right n thank you for your content, very thought provoking as a avid science fiction fan for 60 years

  • @troffle
    @troffle Рік тому +4

    Such a different style of review compared to your Rings Of Power reviews; and yet... brilliant. *So glad I am to have come here* after your RoP and Rise Of Skywalker reviews. The tone of the review is similar to the tone of the movie. Serious. Studied. Thorough. RoP is stupid slapstick and deserves the occasional-cocaine and even the faeces-references style you give it. As I type this, I see the comment below about the line between objectivity and subjectivity; the average person might not get that point (we certainly see that from people defending trash). It's essential for a reviewer of quality to understand this, *and you do*.
    Your response to the other critic saying it would be irrelevant/meaningless that Deckard had fathered a replicant child if he were human... and this is the point at which I've paused and am writing this - perhaps I've misunderstood and I should give THIS a second watch as well. The idea that a replicant was so perfect that it would not only reproduce with another replicant, but reproduce WITH A HUMAN... blurring the line between simulation/reality physically, with physicality, even more thoroughly than the question of simulated emotions being functionally real emotions... that sounds as if it would be a re-definition - or re-scoping - of what it means to be human. I haven't watched the other reviewer's video, maybe I need to. Eh.
    ... but mother of mercy, your analyses, the insights stolen, gleaned from your efforts...
    For various reasons, I haven't seen 2049. I... wasn't going to. This review, however, makes it sound as if this movie *needs* to be watched.
    Reviewers will never get the accolades directors do. Well... the names of Siskel and Ebert, David and Margaret, okay; but... how many such have there been in the history of cinema? And you're not even doing it in partnership with someone. You're not engaging your audience by bouncing comments off someone else, you're doing this purely through your own kinfe-sharp deep-dive. Beautiful. The Review As A Form Of Art; or at the very least, a work worthy of accolade itself.

  • @revanne2028
    @revanne2028 11 місяців тому +6

    Very good review. Only disagreement i really have is that you count Deckard's character change from 2019 to 2021 as a flaw with 2049. I think that Deckard having gone through the events of the original, plus 2 years with Rachel until her death would be enough time to change his opinion of replicants and their place in society

    • @markgraham5971
      @markgraham5971 2 дні тому

      Agree. His interaction with Roy, and relationship with Rachel ; coupled with the realization that he himself is a Replicant and apparently being the father of a miracle would change his perspective ON Replicants role in the future. Especially since he was forced to retire (don't know how many) them. That is why his interaction with Roy is so profound in the first film retrospectively. He sees the humanity in him, then finds himself to be in the same shoes.

  • @t3tsuyaguy1
    @t3tsuyaguy1 3 місяці тому +1

    This is the second of your videos I've watched. I think you have a unique and useful perspective. I'm glad to see your channel is growing, and I'm looking forward to consuming more of your content. Cheers.

  • @A_Wild_Dyzzy
    @A_Wild_Dyzzy 2 місяці тому

    I absolutely love your content. Just watched your first arcane vid. Found you from your Hobbit Series. These long form videos scratch my movie fan itch and it’s something I can listen to on my headphones at work. And before I know it work is over!
    I am blown away by the consistency of the tremendous detail and quality of your content. Keep up the incredible work.

  • @Princess_Feona
    @Princess_Feona Рік тому +4

    I know a lot about the original movie. Like many masterpieces it seems to have been lightning in a bottle that’s very hard to recapture. The original script was a mess and they managed to turn it into something amazing during filming. Rutger Hauer changed Roy Batty’s soliloquy the night before into what we finally see. What was written down was awful. Ford managed to include some detecting for the detective.
    I’m one of the people that seems to really like the voiceover version. Without it you lose the best line in the movie. Harrison Ford didn’t wanna do it and so he purposely read the lines is terribly as he could, and it just so happened that it was perfect for the world weary Deckard. It’s things like this that are impossible to recapture.
    I thought the sequel was worthy but a bit over the top in terms of the villains. You always run that risk when you cast Jared Leto. Visually it was stunning and it certainly had its moments. But I don’t have the urge to watch it 1000 times like I have the original.

    • @AW-uv3cb
      @AW-uv3cb Рік тому +2

      "You always run that risk when you cast Jared Leto." -- lol, that was a very contained delivery of a stinging barb 😀

    • @markgraham5971
      @markgraham5971 2 дні тому

      Having several months to edit the original was perfect timing. Editors strike actually helped the original to be told as best as it could. Directors Cut at least.

  • @Truffle_Pup
    @Truffle_Pup Рік тому +1

    Just finished the stream and now I've got one more hour listening to you talk about one of my favourite films, but not my favourite sequel. Good algorithm Charlie.

  • @GreatGreebo
    @GreatGreebo 10 місяців тому +2

    Excellent video. Great points made. Thank you!

  • @AuthorsAnvil
    @AuthorsAnvil Місяць тому

    How does this video have such few views? I gotta say I went into this disliking 2049, but your video has given me a lot of food for thought. Very excited to check out your other videos...

  • @christianayers622
    @christianayers622 9 місяців тому +2

    Bro I hope you see this comment! First of all great video I agree with most everything, however I just rewatched blade runner and I realized something.
    The first time Wallace ever mentions God (apart from calling himself God) is when he talks to Harrison Ford (sorry I suck with names, literally just watched it and idk his name)
    He says, "do you ever wonder if you were ment to meet the synthetic? Has it ever occurred to you that you were designed to meet her" he's not saying he orcasrrated their falling in love, he's asking if God is the reason for it. Wallace finally realized he is not God, and even wonders if God is responsible.
    He is one of the best villains I've read or watched. He has done everything to make himself God, however despite all of the power he has, God mocks him. He hates God, he wants to be God. He's perfectly written.
    My mind is blown. When I first watched I wasn't a Christian, and I had the same reaction " this is weird af, Wallace made them fall in love?"
    No, the symbolism is clear. Wallace can't control love(luv)
    The luv he created was a monster. The love he couldn't control is what he desired, but couldn't get.
    That's why he says that. He doesn't imply that he had any part in it.
    Thanks for the video brother

    • @randomft
      @randomft  9 місяців тому +1

      Excellent comment, thank you!

  • @millionsofsuns
    @millionsofsuns 6 місяців тому

    This is a marvelous take and review. So far I'm ecstatic to have found your channel.

  • @supersaiyanlucas7320
    @supersaiyanlucas7320 3 місяці тому

    the conclusion is articulated like word porn. relief. comfort. just amazing. i love when u decimated rings of power and barbie too you had some real important points that the world need to understand and needs more attention. you clearly have a passion for this and it shows. incredible mate

  • @rubydoo3307
    @rubydoo3307 Рік тому +17

    I watched the sequel first, and It's a stunning departure from the superhero movies and sci fi movies I'd seen recently. So as someone who went from the sequel to the original. I like them both, but I think the sequel is just more well-rounded, but that of course wouldn't be possible without the original to back it up.
    I really enjoyed this video though, I may not agree with everything, but you're eloquent in putting forward your ideas. Good job.

    • @AW-uv3cb
      @AW-uv3cb Рік тому +2

      If you haven't seen it yet, I recommend the Arrival, also by Dennis Villaneuve. It's got a similar ponderous style and monumental visuals, it can feel quite "detached" and cerebral, but there's a lot to unpack there and story-wise it's completely unlike most sci-fi movies I've seen. Not a movie that I've felt the need to rewatch a lot (it's not for mindless playing in the background), but one I cannot forget, having seen it years ago. Definitely worth a try (even if its understanding of what an academic linguist can do can be a bit funny in the opening scenes ;-) )

    • @jolinefields3460
      @jolinefields3460 Рік тому +1

      I had to go back and watch first again it’s been a while! But considering the year, concept and acting-it’s still a piece of art and I’m glad it has a worthy cult following it definitely deserves too☺️😜
      (and I’m very sure I did not fully understand it all back then so happy for the articulate appreciative recap😇🥰)

  • @okamimemos1716
    @okamimemos1716 Рік тому +6

    Absolutely phenomenal video. I wish I was able to analyze media like this, is there any advice you'd give on how I can approach films and shows this way? Is it just a lot of work and research over a course of time while writing the script, or are you youtubers just geniuses lmao. I've seen my share of films yet I feel like this stuff ALWAYYS goes over my head, do i just suck at the thing I love the most (cinema)??

    • @randomft
      @randomft  Рік тому +4

      I mean I am by no means an expert, and two months ago this video had less than 100 views! I'd suggest watching slowly, so pausing frequently if you need to, and trying to dissect why a scene made you feel a certain way. If it made you sad, why. If it didn't make you sad when you think it should have, chances are there is something in there that caused this failure of a reaction. Couple of ideas :)

    • @jolinefields3460
      @jolinefields3460 Рік тому

      Lol I’m sure u are not alone this was a big story and world concepts all that-I’m happy to hear it get praise and it’s def not for everyone by any means it’s pace, concepts-def takes a few watches by me to get all the details and see favorite scenes again
      Don’t give up!(but yeah this guys a pro right!)

  • @mattikunnas1962
    @mattikunnas1962 7 місяців тому +1

    Predator 2 definitely did not just repeat what it's predecessor did. Pretty much the only thing that they have in common is that they both advance through a series of murders and both end in a one-on-one confrontation with the main hero and the Predator. The different setting in Predator 2 is is not just a visual change but the whole film has been excellently built around it incorporating themes, plotlines, characters, scenery and general vibes of such a setting. Because of that it works as a standalone film which also gives more worldbuilding for the titular character but not much other fan service in a thematic way or from a film making perspective since all that has been crafted to fit the different setting.

  • @chuntoon1
    @chuntoon1 Рік тому +5

    I love both movies, but have never seen such a great break down of 2049 outside it being a visual master piece. Really interesting to hear your take on a good sequel.
    Not as funny as the ROP video .. but that show wrote it's on comedy, so not really fair to compare.

    • @randomft
      @randomft  Рік тому +1

      Yeah I made this years ago with a totally different style. That style wouldn’t work here even if I had wanted it to!

    • @chuntoon1
      @chuntoon1 Рік тому +2

      @@randomft Still liked this a lot. Well thought out and interesting to watch. Funny how both are just fantasy stories that's main characters aren't human, but ... with a well told story, these robots make you think deeply about humanity ... and then we have elf's that make me worry deeply for humanity if art is truly a reflection of it

  • @FortheSakeoftheComments
    @FortheSakeoftheComments Місяць тому

    I saw you on BSUP recently and was impressed, so I’m going through your videos in order.
    I wasn’t a fan of this movie. I thought it would have been fine if it had just been its own thing and not tried to be Bladerunner. However, your thoughts have made me rethink a few things, and now so think I’ll be giving it a rewatch.

  • @dirtychicken8090
    @dirtychicken8090 Рік тому +3

    Loving your work

  • @markgraham5971
    @markgraham5971 2 дні тому

    Well done. Subscribed. Thank you as well for your videos on the butchering of Tolkein's work, even though you admit to not having a grand knowledge, the effort shows and is appreciated.

  • @Sabowie
    @Sabowie 2 місяці тому

    I love your breakdowns! Well done sir!

  • @whitleypedia
    @whitleypedia 6 місяців тому +1

    Wonderful work as always

  • @Princess_Feona
    @Princess_Feona Рік тому +2

    I think you have come up with a brilliant analogy. 2049 is to the original blade runner as aliens is to alien. Both dramatically expanded on the environments. Both of them continued the spirit of the story although not necessarily the direct events of the original.
    And know this is gonna sound stupid, but both of them were made with love. Not just passion and ambition but with actual genuine love for the source material. That’s what’s missing in today’s movies. In the place of that we have arrogance and narcissism of people that are not nearly as skillful as they have been led to believe by the participation trophy generation.
    But it’s this lack of love and respect for the source material I think that condemns the new movies and TV shows we watch into at best obsessive mediocrity and at worst, well… she hulk and rings of power.

  • @HeatherHolt
    @HeatherHolt 3 місяці тому +1

    Jared Leto chewing up the scenery is so awesome contrasted against the very calm demeanor of Ryan gosling.
    And I honestly prefer 2049. Much more philosophical movie.

  • @jacobschex
    @jacobschex Місяць тому

    Brilliant video. I love the movie and your deep dive. I'm going to enjoy digging into your other videos.

  • @SubtractZero
    @SubtractZero 7 місяців тому +2

    There are some things in this movie that make it annoying at times, specifically the Rachel scene , but I agree... it is still a brilliant movie.
    I would argue that Dune is a visually superior film, but that's probably influenced by Hans Zimmer's heavier hand in that film relative to 2049.

  • @colettebarber1942
    @colettebarber1942 Рік тому +1

    Love this film. Great analysis.. Hoping to see more of your views on other films soon

  • @paulkielty8385
    @paulkielty8385 Місяць тому

    Really great video. I have no plan to watch this movie as I don't care to watch a sequel to a Philip K Duck story that wasn't written by him.
    You really made this a journey, however, brilliant breakdown, fantastic diction and the atmosphere and narrative were second to none! Amazing!

  • @jolinefields3460
    @jolinefields3460 Рік тому +3

    I loved this movie and your very inspiring review❤-agree with you on almost everything especially the respect as a standalone gorgeous piece…and give you credit for taking on both oversimplified characters/concepts as well as refraining from overly critical on the very advanced “possibilities “ of a sci-fi universe that adds to your own respect and credibility that adds to the intellectual curiosity and avoids the potential for easily dismissing your thoughts and well explained arguments 🎉

  • @blaueragnostika6413
    @blaueragnostika6413 Рік тому +2

    Very good analysis, thank You for this! Have to watch BR 2049 again now...

  • @beeeater8893
    @beeeater8893 4 місяці тому

    Thank you for being self-aware of your critique. Carefully and cleanly done, mate.

  • @cortedemico
    @cortedemico Рік тому +1

    1:02:23 nailed it!

  • @Technique-kj2bp
    @Technique-kj2bp 4 роки тому

    Good video man, any chance you link me to the background music you use at around the 7:00 mark?

    • @randomft
      @randomft  4 роки тому +1

      The music in this video is a ~20 minute long ambient piece I wrote and then looped for the duration!

    • @Technique-kj2bp
      @Technique-kj2bp 4 роки тому +1

      @@randomft Oh ok fair play man I like it. Thought it had that BR vibe but didn't sound like anything off the ost's.

  • @zak7an2
    @zak7an2 Рік тому +2

    I think its safe to assume that whoever invented replicants did not want them to be fertile if the replicants are created with a purpose of being tools and are treated as such so it wasnt necessarily a design flaw or a technology constraint. Rachel strikes me more as an experiment done not officially because Tyrell knew what consequences this might have and expected backlash from whoever is supervising the whole thing.

    • @markgraham5971
      @markgraham5971 2 дні тому

      Agree. If they can breed then who is going to buy them ? Along with the grand moral questions that would spring forth. Unless of course the off-world work is sponsored by Tyrell, then it would be feasible to have them procreate to save company resources.

  • @timothybeaulieu5103
    @timothybeaulieu5103 5 місяців тому

    There are actually examples of Cityspeak in 2049. The old lady accosting K as he climbs the stairs to his apartment and when the doxies are talking with each other when one recognizes K as a Blade Runner.

  • @mkultrajos
    @mkultrajos Рік тому +2

    Absolutely nailed it. A stunning movie more than worthy of its title.

  • @j.d.youtube6557
    @j.d.youtube6557 5 місяців тому

    Great analysis. ❤

  • @paulmacleod3559
    @paulmacleod3559 3 місяці тому

    You could say the spirit of PKD, UBIK, Horseloverfat, and much kipple is abound because nobody questioned Albemith, except, maybe, Eldrict. ;)

  • @BilltheUnamused
    @BilltheUnamused 2 місяці тому

    Charlie, i look forward to your Blade Runner reviews. This wil be my second I.P. examinstion of yours i came into the room listening to your takedown of the Rings of Power, something im perfectly happy not having to commit to. I grew up without reading Lord of the Rings, ny brother nrought me up to speed on that just before Fellowship of the Ring was released. I know of the things not included in the movie, snd i appreciate Jackson, Boyens and Walsh for their good judgement on what to leave out, AND what to return in the directors cut DVD BluRays.
    You mentioned youre looking for content to review, preferably bad..... Without looking over your body of work, I'm not sure if you've done anything for dune starting with the attempted properties (zjodirowski, Ridley Scott) and the actual adaptation by David Lynch, the expanded tv version with its hood and bad, the fan edits and then there is the 2000 SyFy cheapo sdaptation and its superior followup combination of Dune Messiah and Children of Dune, and now we have the Denis Villenueve adaptations. Thats a lot but not too much content to go over.... Just a thought. And im loving the blade runner coverage you have here. Looking forward to your channel.

  • @timothybeaulieu5103
    @timothybeaulieu5103 5 місяців тому

    I would posit that replicant memories (specifically, episodic memories; those memories of past events), even if they're known to be fake, provide context for the subject in relation to the surroundings, the universe, they find themselves in.
    Semantic memories; those of skills and aptitudes, are what provide the ability to accomplish.
    Both types would be imprinted directly to the hippocampus, with semantic skills filtering down through the proprioceptors located in the muscles and tendons. Coupled with the reflex response from the spinal cord (there are 3 different types of reflex action; superficial, like the reaction you get from being tickled under your feet; tendon/ligament, like the typical knee-jerk response; visceral, which is what the fight-or-flight reaction is based on). Proprioceptors are the neurons located in the muscles and tendons which serve to initiate a person's kinesthetic sense (the sense of how your body is positioned; if you had no kinesthetic sense, you wouldn't know your hand was placed beside your head unless you turned and looked to see it) and muscle memory, which the ability to perform repetitive actions without conscious thought, since muscles don't store actual memory.

  • @balthazarasquith
    @balthazarasquith Рік тому +2

    Great video. I love both the films but you make a great point the 2049 could well be part of the same universe rather than a true sequel

  • @luster5497
    @luster5497 3 місяці тому

    Huh?
    I didn’t even know you cover Blade Runner!!! What? 4years ago?? How I’d missed the upload?

  • @dirkbastardrelief
    @dirkbastardrelief 7 місяців тому +1

    Why wouldn't a new Joi end up being like the old Joi? Don't they adjust to whoever they're with? Or does the purchaser do a one-time roll of character dice?

    • @HeatherHolt
      @HeatherHolt 3 місяці тому

      I assume bc it would have different inputs to learn from. The first joi would have a different K to learn and grow from. Second joi would have a more jaded K to learn from.
      Like AI uses large language models to learn from, it can make for different experiences. ChatGPT is different than Bard. One chat bot will be different than another chat bot based on the info it’s fed.
      That’s what I assume at least.

  • @dirkbastardrelief
    @dirkbastardrelief 7 місяців тому +1

    Can a movie be more than 20 years old without being "flawed" in some way?

  • @ComradeCommissarYuri
    @ComradeCommissarYuri 8 місяців тому

    Ha I remember when Cecil used to interview people using the voight Kampf test 😂

  • @rondyreeves4772
    @rondyreeves4772 5 місяців тому +1

    Considering that Replicants are humans, whether or not ‘naturally born’ humans want to accept that, it shouldn’t be complicated for every Replicant to be given the ability to reproduce via procreation. They’re engineered and enhanced, yes, but they’re still flesh and blood human beings. They have all of the same stuff as you and I are born with, although they are obviously designed with denser bones and muscle tissues, which explains their greater strength. I’m not sure how they artificially increase their intelligence though.

  • @Beard_Hood
    @Beard_Hood 8 місяців тому +8

    absolutely adore this film. i actually like it more than the original on a story, acting, and aesthetic standpoint. still love the old, but completely agree its not a good sequel, in fact i don't tell anyone it is. its in my top five alone side No Country for Old Men, Sicario, Serenity, and Kingdom of Heaven (directors cut). it absolutely fails to match what the old Bladerunner said, but i really fucking felt for K. Thinking you are a robot then to find out you arent, to think you are special, you have value. then to find out you arent in many ways. he could have just rolled over and gave up. but he chose. chose to die to get Deckard to his daughter. and i cant help but draw parallels from this movie to todays... porn industries, and how women (and people like Andrew Tate) pray upon lonely men to make them feel special.

  • @paradox...
    @paradox... 2 місяці тому

    19:15 oof that aged poorly. Anyway, great video! Absolutely adore BR 2049 😁

  • @bobbobb5620
    @bobbobb5620 Рік тому +3

    This is a comment that’s mostly applicable to all of your videos. Oddly enough not especially this one except in contrast. My wife just set me down and made me watch this and I’m glad she did.
    They just don’t make movies and television for smart people anymore. They don’t have to.
    There are a few exceptions but frighteningly few. I don’t know if it’s because Hollywood realized that they could just buy all of the entertainment media or that the discerning viewer is such a minority that there is no money in it. The amount of effort required does not bring a corresponding return on investment.
    Whatever the reason however it is clearly the case. And it’s very sad.

  • @joejoesoft
    @joejoesoft 5 місяців тому +1

    Let me ruin the movie with its massive plot hole. K has a serial code reader that he could have used on himself at any time to prove he was manufactured. He used it on Sapper at the start of the movie - we see how the scanner works. K is reminded again when Mariette says "why don't you look under my eye and find out?" when K asks about her model number. The scene with Coco finding a serial number on the remains yet again reminds K that all replicants are marked, even the older models. We also see his detective skills throughout the movie, so there's no reason to believe he wouldn't scan himself really early in the story.

    • @HelloKolla
      @HelloKolla 2 місяці тому

      My idea of that is that K wanted to believe so much that he was special, he didn't want to even try checking his eye in case he really wasn't (which tragically turns out to be the case). The moment he realized his memories were 'real', that's all that mattered; he was actually real, he had a purpose, and by God will he blindly believe it until the truth's too painful to ignore.

  • @bakunawa6134
    @bakunawa6134 Рік тому +3

    glad I found your channel because rings of power sucks and I watched your reviews.
    Your reviews are really good and it made me watch blade runner
    Ended up really liking it. Such a good film I'm for sure going to be reading the book
    many thanks for the good reviews
    I subbed!

  • @clpearson991
    @clpearson991 Рік тому +1

    The addition of YzKronk was definite a good one :) still a good video though

  • @DLV_Channel
    @DLV_Channel 4 роки тому

    Great analysis, man

  • @zachbase1124
    @zachbase1124 9 місяців тому

    I've been binging your shit for days now. I love it. Want more... Need more... GIVE ME MORE!

  • @wrayday7149
    @wrayday7149 Рік тому +1

    I really like the movie Oblivion.... but I feel there are more people in that universe than in the 2049 universe. I feel the film is trying way to hard to be this grandiose experience and forgets to be a movie. In Blade Runner Decard was running around a heavily populated city but felt alone.... In 2049 they took all the people out and just left a vacant void that is supposed to be a major city. It was Cyber without the punks. Then you have the cast....... Jared Leto's character was comically evil to the point of try hard'ing by stabbing the replicant. Harrison Ford was checked out. And worst of all... our detective couldn't figure out that the human happened to be the one company employee that was the best at making up dreams.
    I really do like the 1st film in all it's many cuts and glory but the follow-up is nothing more than a really good sleeping aid.

  • @Kaiyanwang82
    @Kaiyanwang82 Місяць тому

    While I don't subscribe to the view, this is the only 2049 criticism which has many valid points with substance instead of the usual idiotic points certain media or Dunning-Krugers raised.

  • @jolinefields3460
    @jolinefields3460 6 місяців тому

    This came up again on my feed and I’m still in love with this review and the movies esp BR2049😊

  • @d.b.5070
    @d.b.5070 3 місяці тому

    My problem with 2049 is they changed what the replicants are. It looks nice and has a good enough story but forcing a retcon to make the story isn’t great

  • @cortedemico
    @cortedemico Рік тому +1

    51:58 no... she did not answer his question. She just said it was illegal, not that it wasn't done.
    I heard it as a slight nod to the positive affirmation of the notion it could be done, without admitting guilt to a robot police officer on the lamb with brain issues.

    • @cortedemico
      @cortedemico Рік тому

      55:45 this is the one I assumed, but I like the other one as well.

  • @bernadmanny
    @bernadmanny 4 місяці тому

    The idea of male Lt. Joshi being a Harvey Weinstein type is both dark and horrifying, it would have been chilling and tense and I would not want to see it put to film.

  • @-MrFozzy-
    @-MrFozzy- Рік тому +1

    Blade Runner is a beautiful movie…but, I’m really not a fan of it. I’ve seen all the cuts I know about…however, non of them increase my enjoyment of it. 2049 is stunning and such a better movie

  • @tylermills3771
    @tylermills3771 9 місяців тому

    Now im watching every video

  • @inkermoy
    @inkermoy Рік тому

    Thanks for your analysis. Though I do disagree on some points (Joi _just_ being a program), I agree with a lot of what you had to say.
    But I don't hold that your main point that BR 2049 is not a good sequel to the original. I was actually taken by surprise by this film. Being a fan of the original, owning the original Criterion LD, DVD Briefcase set, and tripledipping with the Blu-Ray combo pack, I was severely underwhelmed when it was announced they were doing a BR sequel. This is coming off Ridley Scott's Prometheus, a "prequel" to Alien. The fact that Scott also believes the BR story works better if Deckard is a replicant also put me off. So I was curious what kind of trainwreck this would be.
    I was completely blown away. This was not a rehash of the first, but a continuation with the world of BR. The themes of what it is to be human/sentient are there, the dystopian future, dirty, used and dying, good stuff. The relationship between K and Joi is the highlight of this film, and K actually does a lot of detective work in this compared to Deckard in the original. Visually stunning in its own way, although my only gripe is the lack of clutter in Morton's house and K's apartment. You do get it in the scrapyard office though, an amazing setpiece. All in all, I find BR 2049 a much more rewatchable film than the original.
    To your point that Tyrell wouldn't make a replicant with both false memories and a functional reproductive system is misguided. If we take it on face value that Deckard is human, and it's not a set up to get two replicants to fall in love and procreate, Rachel would be the latest in a line of prototypes that Tyrell would feel comfortable to test in the real world instead of a laboratory. There could have been other "Rachels" but they, and the information on them, could have been destroyed in the Blackout. Obviously, Deckard Rachel's info and plans were lost.
    For me, BR 2049 is a very worthy sequel that didn't need to be made, but is entirely welcome. There's only a few other sequels that fall into that category in my book: Tron Legacy, Mad Max: Fury Road, and Top Gun: Maverick.

  • @darthgorthaur258
    @darthgorthaur258 5 місяців тому

    I cant believe you had some a big time break between these older ones and the new rings of power ones. Shame you took such a break, would of loved a much bigger back catalogue.

  • @3choblast3r4
    @3choblast3r4 3 місяці тому

    I love the new bladerunner, but how did Anna have that memory if she lives in that special bubble...

  • @cortedemico
    @cortedemico Рік тому +1

    58:30 EPIC DISMISSLE!... of a shallow argument.

    • @cortedemico
      @cortedemico Рік тому +1

      1:01:20 ! WTF! THIS WAS MORE EPIC!
      I hope someone's panties are on fire after Dr Smackdown came to town.

  • @cortedemico
    @cortedemico Рік тому +1

    1:03:47 The quiet parts said out loud, quietly.
    MILF, and all that entails. She's the oldest one and the only human. Human females have a shelf life.

  • @yurikendal4868
    @yurikendal4868 Рік тому +1

    I didn't realize that Dave Bautista was in this movie

  • @biffm.2806
    @biffm.2806 Рік тому +3

    I haven’t seen either “Blade Runners” (and plan on seeing them), but I’m watching this analysis. I love your videos, and have watched the ROP several times 😅

  • @marksterling7110
    @marksterling7110 3 місяці тому

    I suggest you see Rob Ager's analysis of 2049. We agree that it;s not a masterpiece at all.

  • @mattreid6986
    @mattreid6986 4 місяці тому +1

    the efap guys need to watch this one. good vid home slice