We shoot the NEW SIG SAUER M18 CA 9mm Pistol!
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- Опубліковано 7 жов 2023
- We shoot the NEW SIG SAUER M18 CA 9mm Pistol!
check out one of the newest guns to be approved by the tyrants of CA! Alex and I shoot review then shoot it! #sigm18
#californiacomplianthandgun
CA Roster Requirements
No capacity over 10 rounds
Any center-fired handgun manufactured after January 1, 2006, must have a loaded chamber indicator or a magazine disconnect mechanism.
Any rimfire handgun manufactured after January 1, 2006, must have a magazine disconnect mechanism, if it has a detachable magazine.
Any center-fired handgun manufactured after January 1, 2007, must have both a loaded chamber indicator and a magazine disconnect mechanism if the handgun has a detachable magazine
Finally got mine out of jail and got to shoot it over the weekend and man this pistol is an awesome shooter. I was worried about a lot of the things that popular youtubers were saying about the high bore axis, chunky slide, and the sticky reset. I can attest that these are really non issues. I'm only 5' 9" weighing 160 with med/small hands and I was able to hit steel targets ranging ranging in all different sizes at 35 meters and 50 meters like a pro and this is with the stock iron sights. Groups on paper were nice thight groups with my best almost shooting 1 big hole. It's just the best polymer HG next to the Walther PPQ I've fired and I'm a 1911 guy.
Glad you Love it!
Just took mine home. Very happy with it!
Very cool! Thanks for watching
Great pistol, glad you all in California can finally get them.
thanks for watching!
I get to pick mine up on the 21st, it's getting a Romeo 1 PRO on top. I'm looking forward to finally having a proper platform to RDS a pistol. The Romeo 1 PRO does have a rear sight cutout, though I don't see myself using it beyond the initial crude boresight.
Awesome! Have fun with it! Thanks for watching!
Nice ! Just bought the same set up with Romeo pro 1 moa 6. How are you liking it
Greetings from Alabama! I wondered what made the 'CA' different from my pistol. At first I thought it was just the mags that came with the gun, then you mentioned a magazine safety; I'm glad to hear that it didn't booger up the trigger. Can you change the barrel/slide assembly? I have seen factory black P320/M18 units, AND an M17 upper will drop right on.
As for comparison with the Echelon (or other P320s for that matter), two items that I prefer in the P320/M18 are the thumb safety and the loaded chamber indicator.
KEEP UP THE FIGHT!
Everything is the same, just an extra part in the Fire Control Group and one on the slide. Yes you can trade out the upper very easily to delete the small button on the slide. but deleting the Mag Disconnect is more difficult. Yes we are fighting hard in CA to get our rights back. Thanks for the comment!
@@ToddCotta 👍'Small button on the slide'; what's that? I must have missed something. 🤔
The magazine disconnect is held on by a tiny screw. If the screw becomes loose and the piece falls off it will still work. The safety is the other add on part that if you forget to put back on after a cleaning will not stop it from firing.
Just did the start up paperwork here in Cali for mine!Hard to wait the 10 days though….
Wow. Good to hear you found one. Hope you love it!
I love that this is ambi bc I’m left handed but my wife isn’t. Makes it easy to both learn how to use it. I pick mine up tomorrow so pretty excited
Glad you found one! Hope you enjoy it.
The civilian versions of the m18 have it so that you can mount the optic right on top of the slide, the military serialized versions are the pistols where you have to take the slide off to mount the red dot.
The CA models must have slide remove to add red dot. Two Allen bolts on the bottom side.
And I thought you just reviewed your Canyon! Look forward to more of this content.
I started this channel on guns, but I love trucks so I figured why not?
Great gun! I got one a few months ago and my wife got the Glock 26.
Great review. Considering picking one up soon. What kind of ammo did you guys run?
115g Blazer Brass 9mm Thanks for watching!
If you leave CA, is the existing grip module upgradeable with the 21rd magazine? Or do you have to buy a completely different model?
The grip modules can be changed same as free state M18. Problem is the Mag Disconnect feature on the fire control module. Thanks for asking
I get to pick mine up on the 22nd. I didnt go into the gun store wanting to purchase a firearm. I left having bought a firearm. Im excited. Ive been a CZ guy for years but that m18 feels great in the hands.
Congrats!!!!! You will love it!
thanks for the review
Our pleasure! Thanks for watching!
Just got this for an additional ccw. I love it, but the borr axis is a little rough. Other than that, its amazing.
Enjoy it~! Thanks for watching!
I was worried about the high bore axis especially being a 3.9" barrel. But I was surprised by how smooth and flat shooting it was. I have a full size M&P 9 1.0 and I shoot the M18 100x better than the M&P.
I feel sorry for you all in California but glad you are getting more options
thanks for watching!
Can you do a review on the Ruger PC carbine and the HK MP5 22lr. I own both and they are awesome rifles 🎉
Let me see what I can do. Probably the 10-22 take down vs the MP522
Considering buying this as my first gun after shooting it at the range yesterday. A little torn on this one or the m&P 2.0. Which would you suggest?
I really like the M&P 2.0 The Enhanced Trigger is something special. But but guns are excellent. If you want to mod you gun out go with the Sig. If you want a gun to be be great out of the box and never change it, M&P 2.0 is a great choice. And it is much cheaper. Thanks for asking!
That m&p 2.0 4” with the flat faced trigger is super good
Yes, they did that trigger right.
Do all grip modules work with the CA M18? Assuming the magazine disconnect is removed.
I wish I knew more about Sig modules. From what I know yes they work but I'm not sure.
Is the magazine disconnect mechanism incorporated into the frame or the fire control group?
Fire control group, but I believe there are work arounds already made for the Sig.
Do any of the incidents that have occured with accidental discharges worry you about owning one of the p320? Or has that problem/issue been resolved by sig? Hoping my next pistol is a p320..
Looks like they have it fixed. Thanks for commenting!
Picking mine up on the 27th, let’s go!
Hope you love it! Thanks for watching
I'm going to try this in my local range next. They do have a rental of P320 (it's not the CA legal version but of course it's almost the same thing after calling them yesterday).
I hope the P365 XL, P365 X Macro, and P365 .380 all become CA compliant too! 🤩
Hopefully soon! Thanks for watching!
The SIG P320 coming in a few variants. First, the M18, longer barrel. Then the M18 government contract overruns, comes in a cardboard box with slightly different markings. Finally, the M18 and M18-CA. Virtually identical, just the limited magazines and a more expensive drop test.
I just got mine in hand and shooting today, I was shooting excellent groups from 20-40 feet, within a 6 inch circle. I have a Glock 19 which I don't shoot much anymore and a Sig P229 which is my EDC and favorite pistol, but this might unseat that one
That is awesome. Glad you love it!
Picked the last one up at my local gs! These things are flying off the shelves here
We can't order enough. Thankfully they have them still in stock at our supplier.
Will you be reviewing the P365x Macro that made the roster?
absolutely! Thanks for watching!
@@ToddCotta aeesome! Thank you. I enjoy your channel.
So no more micro stamping is required? Does the ruger mx9 have micro stamping?
CA doj pulled the micro stamp rule when the roster case went to the 9th circuit court. But Newsome just signed it back into law for January. What a mess.
Does do all the California compliant m18s have the micro stamping?
microstamp went away after the win in court. It is not required at this time.
I have had my M18 for almost 3 years now. I've fired over 9100 rounds though mine is no problems or any parts breaking. Excellent pistol.
Awesome!! Glad you like it.
So since it’s a trigger group, can the trigger be upgraded?
Yes the trigger can be switched out. Sig make that easy to do. Thanks for asking!
Ah, Arnold Schwarzenegger. The "Terminator" who became the "Wokeinator".
He was useless. Thanks for watching!
And all you californicators voted for him. Stew in your own juices. Maybe Lowpierre NRA will rescue you, join the NRA, build Wayne another house .
Just got this gun but need a little help. I just bought a vortex defender and i know it comes with the screws to fit this gun but not sure if it needs a adalter plate to fit . Can any one help?
Other than sig optics you may need an adapter plate. Thanks for watcing!
@@ToddCotta I've tried to see which one and haven't found anything. Can u point me in the right direction if u have any info that would help
So I can go online and buy modular component? Perhaps a size Large grip?
You guys have no idea how exciting this is…
Thanks for commenting. Yes it is pretty cool.
I wonder how the P320 compares to the SP2022.
Day and night.. These are two very different guns. The 320 is a striker fire, P2022 is hammer fire which is very similar to 226 but with polymer frame. Thanks for watching!
Got one recently. Trigger has a very short travel and light trigger. Is that normal?
that is by design. Very light and smooth trigger!
Thank you. @@ToddCotta
Putting money down on this exact gun at bass pro shop later this afternoon!
AWESOME You will love it!
Damn it now I got to get one!
Haha! You're not the only one! Thanks for watching.
Damn I might just buy this before the sin tax... But I really want the Echelon!!!
It is not confirmed, but the Echelon should be coming this summer!
Considering one of these. I didnt want the franklin armory version with that one shot at that price was very lame. 😂
The Franklin Armory clone was problematic for CA. Changing it could be illegal under CA law. They are playing in the grey area of the law is never smart in CA.
The Franklin CA320 doesnt have the magazine disconnect also its not illegal to change the grip module thats not the firearm portion of the gun.
i am waiting for p365xl in calfornia
That is a great gun!
That’s why the military uses It
Thanks for watcing!
All the M18s and M17s have the removal plate not just the CA model.
Yes they do. Thanks for watching!
Sig also sells contract overruns of actual USGI M17s and M18s, and it turns out the optic cutout and cover plate are a bit different than the )320/M17-18s.
M18x is out now check it out there's also a m17x
I will have to take a look.
Thanks for watching!
They are $200.00 cheaper elsewhere and have one 17 and two 21round mags
Yep. Thanks for watching!
I'm about to Pick up mine on the 26th 🦅🇺🇸✝️
Awesome! You will love it!! Thanks for watching!
@@ToddCottaNo problem, brother. This video was good to watch so I know about the pistol.
only reason they allowed it is cuz they dont wanna lose that court xase. they are allowing this so they can say they let new guns on the roster
Exactly! they were scared the micro stamp would be the feather that broke the camel's back. Thanks for watching!
Didn’t mention this Sig is military version because of the safety .
Didn't think about it. Remember the first round guns were all recalled. Thanks for watching!
You couldn't pay me to live in California. It used to be the place everyone wanted to be.
I love my home state. Still has awesome beaches mountains desert and farm land. But the government is ridiculous and must be stopped.
Hey, man, I get it. But things are changing here in california. The bruin decision is changing a lot of things across the landscape. And our boy garvey is winning in the race.
It really “sucks” to live in California, from someone from South Texas !!
Politics really do stink... but CA is my favorite state to live in. Beaches, 18 thousand foot mountains, lush farm lands and deserts. Just politically it is horrible. I like the politics in Texas, but I could never live in a flat state that has ice storms, and crazy weather. Thanks for commenting!
I got my P320 for $699 last week
Thanks for watching!
The trigger is not as clean as p320s from the free states. I bought two off roster.
Acutally Alex preferred this trigger over his past P320 NON CA. It is a pretty good trigger!
Converted mine to 10mm
Thanks for letting us know you can do this.
Did you have to modify the FCU, or did you just change the grip, slide and barrel?
@@crewagnew3747 i did modify the fcu.
Had to install a 45/10mm takedown safety lever and a slide catch. Now i can swap it back and forth between any grip
I am a former California resident. I live in a free state now. I am glad that the sunshine is finally breaking through the darkness. Access to modern, accurate, safer handguns is a constitutional right. Glad you are joining the 21st century!! Enjoy your rights as US citizens. I hope that this trend continues and you can get rid of the rest of unnecessary requirements so that the people can use these tools as a mode of self defense. Now you have to vote in politicians that will go after criminals, not law abiding citizens.
If we cant get fair elections without fraud, it is going to be very hard. We are fighting every day over here. Thanks for the comment.
Will we ever get the Glock 19x
Glock could have had the Gen4 series out before the 2014 ban, but they will not put loaded chamber indicator (LCI) or magazine disconnect on their guns. So until the CA Roster is totally killed, no new Glocks will be coming to CA. Glock will not disable their guns for any state. Thanks for asking.
@@ToddCotta these laws are crazy, buying an AR here seems pointless especially with that fin grip
PPT and pay the CA premium =)
I'll stick with 229. Hate Tupperware
For half the price, and the ability to repair my gun by my self with out a gunsmith, I prefer striker fire guns every time. Thanks for watching!
M18 = Glock 45/19X, M17=Glock 17...For guns guys you dont know this?
Oh we know it, but those guns are not available in CA for CA buyers. Only the Gen3 G17 is available to CA buyers that you listed. Thanks for watching!
California is still in the union !! Wow.
Oh they are trying to be their own country for sure. Not if I can stop it. Thanks for watching!
Science fiction joke was on point guys. These people are insane. Kamala Harris is a disgrace and left us with this mess.
Thanks for watching!
Ditch the politics and review the gun guys!
It's unfortunate but politics goes hand in hand with Gun control. If it affects our ability to exercise our second amendment right? I will talk about politics. But thanks for watching.
So glad I don’t live in California 😢
I would put CA topography up against all states even countries, but the politics here are the devil. I love CA, and I don't know how much longer I can take it here. Thanks for watching!
@ToddCotta I'm with you, California is a beautiful state but the demonrats are destroying it. I don't want to say good bye to Cali buts it's getting harder by the minute to live here. Great video by the way. Just picked my p320 up. Just subscribed