Another comprehensive and complete evaluation with raw unbiased data for everyone to see for themselves and base their purchase on. Thanks for doing this as without it, the masses would be lacking any REAL numbers to compare. Still baffling why you don't have 100K followers. Cheers!
Love the comparison with the full battery lineup for each in plain speak with graph's. Talk about dotting your i's and crossing your t's throughout! Thanks & Subscribed!
9:55 this is what I've been wanting to see! All the 18V tools with a 5-cell packs are beating the 12V tools with 6-cell packs (tied for Makita). And that's with the M12 using the better Samsung 25S cells. I wish brands would put better cells in their slim packs.
And idk if youve screwed around with the ryobi and or ridgid ones lately since the new tabless cell batteries for em dropped.... the new ryobi edge battery makes the ryobi cutoff like twice as powerful it feels... and ill assume the ridgid is even better. Would love to see an update on some of these w newer better batteries
These are useful when angle grinders are just too big or cumbersome. For example, I had to cut out my dishwasher because of clearance issues (height was actually slightly bigger than floor to counter clearance), and I used the cut off tool with guard to minimize collateral damage. I did use angle grinder w/ abrasive wheel for a couple unreachable parts, but with angle grinder alone, the dishwasher stainless tub is very little resistance and was harder to control in such a small space with a variable substrate.
For me, the point of that mini grinders is them to be mini. So only Bosch or Milwaukee is passing the test. With he size of the 18/20v presented, you have 125mm disc angle grinder.
@@Tools-TestedYeah I saw it on amazon. I'm hoping for that magical $99 bare tool deal. I know I can get it as a free tool on some battery kits, but I already bought a few powerstack kits so I'm good on batteries.
Phenomenal video my man as usual The Ridgid has always been the best cut off tool imo but I haven’t used them all, I’d have liked to have seen the Ridgid ran with the 3ah octane battery pack on it which have the 1p 21700 cell config
I’m going to keep it a year in hopes we see a M18. Maybe at that point Makita releases a pouch cell or at the very least 21700s. If not I will test it like you said with another brands 21700s
@Tools-Tested I'm very skeptical of 21700s making it to LXT. Makita users have been asking since 2018. I think there's too many small issues that add up to Makita not wanting to do it: incompatibility with X2 tools; possibly overdriving existing tools; extra mass that the connectors weren't designed for; and extra components needed inside the pack. LXT packs have 3x30A fuses in parallel, a 60A mosfet, and 2 current shunts in parallel. A 21700 LXT would prob need 5-6x fuses, 2x mosfets, and 3-4 shunts. If you look at all the recent LXT exclusive tools, they're mostly light weight. This cutoff tool, one-handed recip, mini chainsaw, pruning shears, ratchet, small rotohammer (~20% lighter than the small XGT rotohammer). Bigger LXT batteries don't really fit into that picture. However, they have recently announced a 12V pack that's almost certainly using 21700s, so who knows. Makita is always hard to predict.
Freaking awesome video. I’ve already seen TTCs tests on these and ever since I’ve been anxiously awaiting your review. Thank you so much, it’s really neat to get your take on tools as well. I have the Ryobi cutoff and their “right” angle die grinder. I picked up a bunch of the new 6AH HP batteries for a song earlier this year and they both run pretty good on those. I dislike Dewalt as a whole, nothing logical really, they just don’t do it for me, but there’s no denying that thing is an absolute beast! However what surprises me the most is the Ridgid. That thing has got the smallest motor on it and yet makes the most power or nearly the most power and it’s often really cheap. I actually put all my Ridgid tools in storage as I’m trying to pair down my number if active battery platforms, but damnit that Ridgid makes me want to bring the batteries back out. Sadly none of these other brands make a right angle die grinder that’s worth anything except Ryobi, at least as far as I’m aware. I’d love for Ridgid to come out with a right angle grinder as well. Or better yet, Milwaukee release a new grinder and cutoff tool that doesn’t suck, preferably on M18. Damn you Ridgid!!!!!
Thanks! Yep 110% that Ryobi right angle is awesome. If Ridgid used a similar motor in a 90 it would be crazy. I really hope Milwaukee steps it up and give us both of those tools in M18, thats what everyone wants. On a side note I do have the new Bosch right angle, im curious if it will beat the m12 version.
I've been wanting this tool for awhile. I only need it a few x a year, i guess it's worth the $190 regardless, better for those who use it all the time
That Ridgid is impressive for the money. Any plans to test battery adapters? I've got tons of Milwaukee batteries and am not eager to buy into another brand and batteries just for one or two tools. There is a Milwaukee to Ridgid adapter, but I haven't tried it, and I'm not sure how safe they are or how much power loss there is (if any). Thanks
Yeah it’s crazy how powerful it is. Maybe some day but I honestly try to stay away from adapters, I know TTC did a video on them but I haven’t watched it. This tool would probably be ok though, seeing it’s only using 2 pins. But I can definitely understand trying it with one. I really hope we see a M18 version this year, they have to be taking heat over not selling one. No problem!
Thanks for another great test! Btw I am very sceptical about that metabo 10ah pack, if it is 10 cell pack it probably uses 50S cells which are in same power class as 20R cells used in regular 4ah packs. DeWalt had issues with their 10ah packs because they were asking too much out of them lol. For metabo 5.5ah should be the most powerful 10cell pack since they use 30T cells
I would love to see these retested using diamond metal cutting wheels like diablo and lennox make. To see if the motors perform any differently. I have the m12 with the lennox blade and it seems to bog down a little more than black abrasive cutting disks
Sadly I have already sold 3/4s of them, that way I can buy other tools for testing. I wouldn’t want anything 12v for that type of work and would recommend the Dewalt or even the Ridgid but the Ridgid doesn’t have dust collection.
Honest question, because ive really been wanting to try one of these. Would there be any benefit(besides weight) from me using this tool to cut peices of rebar(what i would mostly use it for) as apposed to using my cordless grinder?
Not really. It's likely safer due to it not being nearly as powerful. And it likely will always have a metal cutting blade on it, whereas with my angle grinder I often am switching back forth between cutting and flap discs.
3:05.. the Ridgid should run with (or close to) the 12ah with a 9ah Octane battery... the Ridgid is a solid value The Octane batteries bump up performance across the board for the Ridgid..they have 3ah, 6ah, and 9ah..
@Tools-Tested That's fair. I'm a test engineer working on my own affordable dyno set ups for testing various homeprojects. I don't plan on making videos so if you want to collaborate on anything in the future let me know.
I feel like the manufacturer could chunk up these cut off tools just a tad more, sacrifice size for more power! I'd be ok with esp dewalt having the current cut off as it's 'compact' cut off while adding a slightly larger model. ESP Makita on the XGT line, the LXT is WAY over priced for the performance with the old 18650 cells. The XGT needs to smoke everything currently existing
I originally was given the worx cutoff tool a few years back (only worx thing i ever had) n while i loved the idea, the worx model just was ass.. Then i got the ryobi one which I still have n love, then the ridgid which is str8 beast, n i bought onenof those knockoff Amazon ones for shits n gigs (not worth it). Ive also used the coworkers m12 which was good... an m18 version tho would be waay killer . As well as the dewalt,, and imo by far the vest most powerful one qas the dewalt especially w a powerstack. But as long as its a decent tool brand, and notnsome cheapo worx amazon type,, they all are sick af
I don't understand why use these cut off tools if they are that much bulky with 20v batteries? better use a normal angle grinder? this is supposed to be handy and compact for light jobs. with decent power and light weight, Milwaukee12v, and Bosch 12v did the great job, I guess.
Dept cut was something not mentioned by anyone else.
Yeah kinda important IMO!
Another comprehensive and complete evaluation with raw unbiased data for everyone to see for themselves and base their purchase on. Thanks for doing this as without it, the masses would be lacking any REAL numbers to compare.
Still baffling why you don't have 100K followers. Cheers!
Thanks! Yeah its crazy, at this rate I will never hit 100k lol.
I originally bought the dewalt to cut pvc pipe and hose and stuff, never imagined I'd end up routinely cutting bricks and rebar with it.
Yeah its crazy how powerful the Dewalt is.
Love the comparison with the full battery lineup for each in plain speak with graph's. Talk about dotting your i's and crossing your t's throughout! Thanks & Subscribed!
Glad you liked it! Thanks for the sub!
Your attention to detail and balanced assessments are quite impressive. Thanks for all the data
No problem!
I own the DeWalt cut off tool and love it! Works flawlessly when cutting through metal and ceramics.
Yep it an awesome tool!
9:55 this is what I've been wanting to see! All the 18V tools with a 5-cell packs are beating the 12V tools with 6-cell packs (tied for Makita). And that's with the M12 using the better Samsung 25S cells. I wish brands would put better cells in their slim packs.
Yep it really kills the performance of some tools having cheep cells. But also seems like PCB play a huge role, that Bauer 8ah comes to mind.
The Ridgid has an intake screen. It’s pretty simple to remove as well.
Yep good point! I forgot about that one.
Just another video proving why I love my Ridgids. Great vid! Like the detail.
Yep they are a good value! Thanks!
@@Tools-Tested welcome
And idk if youve screwed around with the ryobi and or ridgid ones lately since the new tabless cell batteries for em dropped.... the new ryobi edge battery makes the ryobi cutoff like twice as powerful it feels... and ill assume the ridgid is even better.
Would love to see an update on some of these w newer better batteries
I love my Dewalt. It's night and day vs Milwaukee.
Yep makes the Milwaukee look like a toy.
These are useful when angle grinders are just too big or cumbersome. For example, I had to cut out my dishwasher because of clearance issues (height was actually slightly bigger than floor to counter clearance), and I used the cut off tool with guard to minimize collateral damage.
I did use angle grinder w/ abrasive wheel for a couple unreachable parts, but with angle grinder alone, the dishwasher stainless tub is very little resistance and was harder to control in such a small space with a variable substrate.
Yep they do come in handy at times.
For me, the point of that mini grinders is them to be mini. So only Bosch or Milwaukee is passing the test. With he size of the 18/20v presented, you have 125mm disc angle grinder.
Thanks for this. I've been eagerly waiting for one of the tool stores to put the dewalt on sale.
No problem! Yeah I’m sure at one point it will be. I know it’s on Amazon for $140 vs $180 Msrp.
@@Tools-TestedYeah I saw it on amazon. I'm hoping for that magical $99 bare tool deal. I know I can get it as a free tool on some battery kits, but I already bought a few powerstack kits so I'm good on batteries.
That hyper tough works great for auto body work with the 4ah battery
Yeah definitely needs the 4ah.
Phenomenal video my man as usual The Ridgid has always been the best cut off tool imo but I haven’t used them all, I’d have liked to have seen the Ridgid ran with the 3ah octane battery pack on it which have the 1p 21700 cell config
Thanks! Yeah the rigid is an awesome tool. I definitely need to get the Octane batteries at some point. I’m sure the 3 kicks like the 6ah with 18650s.
10:36 you can just use another brand's 21700 pack and an adapter (or hook up the terminals with thick wire and put a
I’m going to keep it a year in hopes we see a M18. Maybe at that point Makita releases a pouch cell or at the very least 21700s. If not I will test it like you said with another brands 21700s
@Tools-Tested I'm very skeptical of 21700s making it to LXT. Makita users have been asking since 2018. I think there's too many small issues that add up to Makita not wanting to do it: incompatibility with X2 tools; possibly overdriving existing tools; extra mass that the connectors weren't designed for; and extra components needed inside the pack.
LXT packs have 3x30A fuses in parallel, a 60A mosfet, and 2 current shunts in parallel. A 21700 LXT would prob need 5-6x fuses, 2x mosfets, and 3-4 shunts.
If you look at all the recent LXT exclusive tools, they're mostly light weight. This cutoff tool, one-handed recip, mini chainsaw, pruning shears, ratchet, small rotohammer (~20% lighter than the small XGT rotohammer). Bigger LXT batteries don't really fit into that picture.
However, they have recently announced a 12V pack that's almost certainly using 21700s, so who knows. Makita is always hard to predict.
@@toolscientist it is 21700 ;)
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Freaking awesome video. I’ve already seen TTCs tests on these and ever since I’ve been anxiously awaiting your review. Thank you so much, it’s really neat to get your take on tools as well. I have the Ryobi cutoff and their “right” angle die grinder. I picked up a bunch of the new 6AH HP batteries for a song earlier this year and they both run pretty good on those. I dislike Dewalt as a whole, nothing logical really, they just don’t do it for me, but there’s no denying that thing is an absolute beast! However what surprises me the most is the Ridgid. That thing has got the smallest motor on it and yet makes the most power or nearly the most power and it’s often really cheap. I actually put all my Ridgid tools in storage as I’m trying to pair down my number if active battery platforms, but damnit that Ridgid makes me want to bring the batteries back out. Sadly none of these other brands make a right angle die grinder that’s worth anything except Ryobi, at least as far as I’m aware. I’d love for Ridgid to come out with a right angle grinder as well. Or better yet, Milwaukee release a new grinder and cutoff tool that doesn’t suck, preferably on M18. Damn you Ridgid!!!!!
Thanks! Yep 110% that Ryobi right angle is awesome. If Ridgid used a similar motor in a 90 it would be crazy. I really hope Milwaukee steps it up and give us both of those tools in M18, thats what everyone wants.
On a side note I do have the new Bosch right angle, im curious if it will beat the m12 version.
@@Tools-Tested If I were Bosch, I would be stupidly embarrassed if my new right angle didn’t beat Milwaukee’s old and quite sub par grinder.
Ao i may have missed it, but the thumb nail says yes or no, and i dont know if you answered it, would you recommend the Makita?
Yeah I answered it at the end, recommending it if you already have the Makita 18v line.
@@Tools-Testedaye ok you're right, you recommended all 4, and obviously if you were in each battery platform
Love my DeWalt, it hasn't skipped a beat yet.
Yeah it’s a killer!
@@Tools-Testedприветствую. у вас в Америке есть для Ridgit площадка с пылеудалением, как у DeWalt или Makita?
I've been wanting this tool for awhile. I only need it a few x a year, i guess it's worth the $190 regardless, better for those who use it all the time
Yep it’s expensive for what it is, but definitely handy.
Little phukker makes me smile. That's worth $190 itself
That Ridgid is impressive for the money. Any plans to test battery adapters? I've got tons of Milwaukee batteries and am not eager to buy into another brand and batteries just for one or two tools. There is a Milwaukee to Ridgid adapter, but I haven't tried it, and I'm not sure how safe they are or how much power loss there is (if any). Thanks
Yeah it’s crazy how powerful it is. Maybe some day but I honestly try to stay away from adapters, I know TTC did a video on them but I haven’t watched it. This tool would probably be ok though, seeing it’s only using 2 pins. But I can definitely understand trying it with one. I really hope we see a M18 version this year, they have to be taking heat over not selling one.
No problem!
Thanks for another great test!
Btw I am very sceptical about that metabo 10ah pack, if it is 10 cell pack it probably uses 50S cells which are in same power class as 20R cells used in regular 4ah packs. DeWalt had issues with their 10ah packs because they were asking too much out of them lol. For metabo 5.5ah should be the most powerful 10cell pack since they use 30T cells
No problem! Thats a good point, I probably need to get the 5.5 then. I noticed they offer a ton of different battery's....
@@Tools-Tested yeah having a large selection can be both good and bad, depending on how you look at it :D
I would love to see these retested using diamond metal cutting wheels like diablo and lennox make. To see if the motors perform any differently. I have the m12 with the lennox blade and it seems to bog down a little more than black abrasive cutting disks
Sadly I have already sold 3/4s of them, that way I can buy other tools for testing.
I wouldn’t want anything 12v for that type of work and would recommend the Dewalt or even the Ridgid but the Ridgid doesn’t have dust collection.
I had the m12 great tool. But when dewalt made one i had to get it! Night and day in power.
Yep huge difference, wish they would make a M18.
Honest question, because ive really been wanting to try one of these. Would there be any benefit(besides weight) from me using this tool to cut peices of rebar(what i would mostly use it for) as apposed to using my cordless grinder?
Not really. It's likely safer due to it not being nearly as powerful. And it likely will always have a metal cutting blade on it, whereas with my angle grinder I often am switching back forth between cutting and flap discs.
Yeah for rebar probably no real benefit. Probably better off with the grinder for that.
Yeah TTC put a homemade battery on it and that Makita can hang out with the beast it self
Interesting, I really hope Makita gives us new batteries this coming year!
Even being hard to find and see around, you should review more Metabo tools.
Working on it, just cost more money lol.
@@Tools-Tested sounds good...I hope you can make a video of metabo's cordless Nibbler and shears. Thanks
3:05.. the Ridgid should run with (or close to) the 12ah with a 9ah Octane battery... the Ridgid is a solid value
The Octane batteries bump up performance across the board for the Ridgid..they have 3ah, 6ah, and 9ah..
Yeah I hope to get some octane packs soon, I don’t understand why Ryobi and Ridgid are avoiding 21700s. That 3ah on the ryobi is the perfect setup.
@@Tools-TestedThese octane batteries will run on saw AEG?
I'm curious if the Hyper Tough tests any better with the newer 4ah battery.
Yes it will do better with the 4ah, but even with the 4AH you can see it still struggles. I tested it with 1.5, 2.0 and the 4.0 in this video.
i cant find any customer experience of Ryobi Rapid Repair yet, is it free?
Is that new? I didn't know they offered that, would be interesting if the 14 day turnaround is true.
Annoying that the Makita doesn't have an ambidextrous safety. Some of us don't always like throwing sparks at our bodies!
Yep that would have been nice, I don’t think it would have been hard.
Kobalt just released their 3inch cut off tool but you can’t buy it anywhere for some reason everywhere says it’s out of stock
Thanks for the heads up, I was able to order one from Lowes. Might be Sundays video if it arrives before Saturday.
I put a 3" saw blade on my dewalt and actually use it to cut up pallets. Works fantastic
Nice, I can see how it would make for a handy wood saw.
Id be interested to see thw dewalt with the 6ah 21700 battery or the 9ah flexvolt. Apparently those are the sweetspots for dewalts battery line
They would be better vs most, but the 5ah PowerStack is now the sweet spot. Only thing which can produce a lower voltage drop is the 15ah.
Can you do a video on angle grinders?
Hopefully next month, still working on the dyno for them.
What load/torque cell are you using?
Thats a trade secret, I spent years perfecting it. Without out that no one would probably watch my channel. Sorry
@Tools-Tested That's fair. I'm a test engineer working on my own affordable dyno set ups for testing various homeprojects. I don't plan on making videos so if you want to collaborate on anything in the future let me know.
I feel like the manufacturer could chunk up these cut off tools just a tad more, sacrifice size for more power! I'd be ok with esp dewalt having the current cut off as it's 'compact' cut off while adding a slightly larger model. ESP Makita on the XGT line, the LXT is WAY over priced for the performance with the old 18650 cells. The XGT needs to smoke everything currently existing
Yep I agree, lxt is a joke with 18650’s. Xgt is $$$ but I will say the drill shocked me how powerful it was.
Worx do brushless WX813.9
Man for some reason I haven’t been getting your vids on my feed.
Yeah YT is weird like that.
I originally was given the worx cutoff tool a few years back (only worx thing i ever had) n while i loved the idea, the worx model just was ass..
Then i got the ryobi one which I still have n love, then the ridgid which is str8 beast, n i bought onenof those knockoff Amazon ones for shits n gigs (not worth it).
Ive also used the coworkers m12 which was good... an m18 version tho would be waay killer .
As well as the dewalt,, and imo by far the vest most powerful one qas the dewalt especially w a powerstack.
But as long as its a decent tool brand, and notnsome cheapo worx amazon type,, they all are sick af
Craftsman has just came out with one
Thanks for the info, I just bought one.
I hope this video at least cover tool price 😢
Thanks! Maybe someday, but It hasn't come close. My tax lady questions why I waste the time and money.
I don't understand why use these cut off tools if they are that much bulky with 20v batteries? better use a normal angle grinder? this is supposed to be handy and compact for light jobs. with decent power and light weight, Milwaukee12v, and Bosch 12v did the great job, I guess.
Yeah, the dewalt is handy though with the 1.7.
makita bad for left handed.
Milwaukee 2522-20 M12 is a bit weak.
Dewalt I can't find it in Japan
the new ttc
Maybe someday!
Ridgid fir the win
Yep its an animal!
No Sir , I did not enjoy the video.
Wanted more real world testing. Not just numbers
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Thanks!
I am not impressed at all
Yeah hopefully we see new batteries soon, that should boost the performance.