Experienced player who knew what all the cards do - the overlay was very cool imo, tracking damage was a lot easier and it made the game easier to talk about with other people in the room who are less familiar. Simplifying all the arts down to the regular art also helps when you aren’t someone who keeps up with all the illustration rare arts haha
About Bradner, I think many people's issue with this is that it isn't like this is the first time he has been on stream playing like this. If he plays this slow on stream, I can only imagine what it is like off stream.
Its strange because it seems inconsistent. I was a floor judge at this year's worlds, and I actually was watching his match vs Jesse. I'd heard things about his play in the past, so I thought I'd check tempo of play just in case, and they both honestly played very quickly. I wasn't able to follow the stream match due to my other judging obligations, but his off-stream play didn't seem too worrying during the time I spent watching him on the floor.
Just as an aside, the reason Pokemon cards still have the pokeball opening the wrong way is because they can't change it without causing issues with mismatched card backs. It's the same reason you can't play japanese cards alongside other languages, it's because even with card sleeves on, you might be able to tell which card backs are different and therefore they become marked cards. If the card backs EVER change, they'll instantly become unplayable alongside all cards created until that point.
I thought the new overlay was cool, but I didn’t like how it kills the aspect ratio of the shot both making it hard to see the players hands as well as makes me feel like I’m looking vertically on my phone
Some feedback for the overlay on stream: Could the overlay collapse or disappear every now and then? Like on a timer or pivotal moments bring it back for knock outs? That way we can see more of the players hands and feel less claustrophobic. I still really like the overlay but it would be nice if it could disappear every now and then during the game. I’m reminded of how in pokemon stadium when you select an attack or option it expands the menu and when completed it collapses.
Yup, I am much more comfortable with the usual stream format, sure it is easier to track especially for people with less knowledge in the game, but to me it’s overcrowded with everything constantly ‘in your face’. They went on to familiarize the Japan’s stream format but unfortunately it’s not working for me.
When I used to play 04-13 the season used to end on the last day of August and the new season started on the 1st of September with rotation. So worlds would be the last deck of that format. It makes sense because now you can rock up to a comp after worlds, in the same format, with the exact same 60 that won worlds. Makes no sense.
The overlay was pretty useful because it's hard to tell at first what some Pokémon are because of different art or foiling or whatever. You can eventually get it from context, but it's nice to have that info at a glance. With a Magic-style card extension, it would have everything I could ask for.
17:08 for anyone curious (hi VGC person here): it was a top 8 game, the player did not get a penalty, but on the video of the match on Pokemon's YT playlist, there is a suspicious jump in time that happens to coincide with that. It's why I think they were a lot more willing to "lay down the law" with Ian here
Such copium by Chip saying “we should have wanted this result because we would have wanted a cheater getting a penalty that allows opponent to advance”… Even if it was BM’ing, and it seems like it was, it was far from an egregious gesture and they drew way more attention to this with their ridiculous decision. I get Chip trying to protect his job, but we gotta live in reality here…
I'm fairly sure you could actually mouse over a card during the stream and get the details of what it could do! I remember seeing it during the finals, hovering over Iron Thorns brought its info up via an extension.
Not being able to see the player’s hands was a big let down. The camera crew was also not timing well. I know there’s a lot of people handling that so it’s complicated. But I remember a caster even saying on stream to get the camera over to a certain situation. Or that they missed something because the camera wasn’t on it, especially pokéstops.
i DO believe the new overlay on twitch DOES let you mouseover the big card on the bottom left that they show, and it pops up with all the info. in this case at 59:00 it would be the raging bolt ex that pops up with the info and text. however its only limited to that one card card theyre currently showing in the bottom left, which is usually still good because they tend to show the important cards that are being used currently in the turn.
I loved the new stream overlay. I watch all the streams and depending on if im on my phone or on a bigger screen, damage and conditions can be hard to see sometimes. Sometimes My dad who very loosely understands the game wants to watch the streams and I think this will massively help him understand a board state. I also like how it allowed for more than one card image to be shown on screen at once
Slow play is stupid. If my opponent bricks and can't search their deck turn 1 going 1st or 2nd who cares, can I really just sit there for a minute or two and search my own because I have a card that allows me to do so? TPCI needs to revise their unspoken rule about "prize-checking" before they hand out warnings for slow play
I thought the overlay was really cool. It added an element that tied the video game and the tcg, which I think is important for player conversion to other parts of the IP. I didn't miss the player cams too much, personally. They're mostly just staring at the table, anyhow. The KO animations were neat too.
The ideal time for rotation could be right before worlds. It forces qualifiers to come up with their own stuff, and gives the best players and deckbuilders a huge opportunity for a leg up. I didn't mind it being Nationals (NAIC) format back in the day as a culmination of the season, but if you talked to anyone who wasn't qualified they were already prepping for next season, and a lot of players would just run basically the same 60 they qualified with and perhaps not even bother preparing that much. An advantage to having rotation after worlds is, in theory, everyone who's qualified has a deck they can play at a high level in the current format; though this is less true when players can earn their invite as early as september these days by winning a regional. So maybe just having a somewhat impactful set come out before worlds, like this year, is a nice balance between the two options.
The new layouts for the stream is nice. I just miss the players face can. When there are big plays I found myself looking to see the players reactions.
When you guys lock in your guess for Flavor Text, before revealing the answer you should give out the other clues first for those playing at home. I know you do this already when you've got the guess wrong, but it'd be helpful to be consistent across all.
Voy a comentar en español porque en inglés estoy seguro que me equivocaría en alguna palabra: hay mucho alegato respecto al match loss de Ian que me hace sentir que más que la aplicación correcta de la regla, lo que les molesta a quién se aplica. Mucho de ello viene de quién clasificó y quién quedó fuera... si Fernando perdía contra Jesse Parker o si Jesse Parker pasaba directo a la final, mucha gente en la comunidad estadounidense ni siquiera hablaría del tema, siento que les molesta que el campeón no sea uno de ustedes.
The original Japanese cards from the 90s had the poke ball opening backwards, so Wizards totally based their design off that. The Japanese cards updated eventually, but the U.S. just never will.
48:30 I really don't mind the 60 second to make an action if the player is visibly thinking and imagining his actions through the an important turn, what makes me really mad are the 30 seconds shuffles, that should be penalized...
Azul, what was your thought process going into worlds? You mentioned you weren't prepared (as much as you could have). Were just playing Worlds because of having an invite? Didn't feel like this was the worlds you wanted to play? I'm curious on what the thought process was.
I wish more people met Pocket with more skepticism. It’s seems like an obvious cash grab that will likely be riddled with micro transactions. Probably will not provide good experiences as a digital collecting app nor a competitive game.
Having pride in your country and fellow countrymen is what makes for awesome fans and compelling competition. You got everyone this year. Congrats to the country of Chile
I didn’t enjoy the overlay. It made me turn it off. You’re looking at a board and hands on occasion. Seeing people play and their faces is more interactive imo. To have the card overlay come up occasionally is the play. Also health bar is lame. Xxx/180hp is fine. It made it feel like they wanted you to watch an animation game and not a physical card game
i do think you friend is projecting about the silence. as far as we know he could have a no disclosre agreement from the pokemon company to not talk about it or hes trying to hype it up for free clout like on sept 1st where hes dueling jesse and using it to gain social media presence
I really don't understand. My biggest problem is that they show him losing. but then let the loser pass for the final without any good story or explanation IN THE STREAM, this makes the entire stream very disappointing
It’s not a kids game people need to just grow up u should be able to celebrate within reason it wasn’t that crazy just stop overreacting to everything do y’all see what is allowed on twitch and UA-cam to children ?
If it's not a kids game then why do they have a Junior division for kids under 13 (that even got featured in the finals) Also, Twitch actually has an age restriction and you can't use it if you're under 13 years old
@@urban_no_mad I’m not breaking it down for u my man the thousands that pay thousands of dollars to travel and support the game vs the couple hundred it simply isn’t that big a deal especially when compared to what Else goes on just stop
At the end it’s a good business decision for what they want their target audience to be. The competitive scene is the minority audience for them. Appease the general public.
I don't think it being a kids game was the reason. I'm pretty sure gestures like that are common because that's a thing people do on instinct. I think it had more to do with it being on an official stream, because if it weren't for that I'm pretty sure no one would have cared.
Experienced player who knew what all the cards do - the overlay was very cool imo, tracking damage was a lot easier and it made the game easier to talk about with other people in the room who are less familiar. Simplifying all the arts down to the regular art also helps when you aren’t someone who keeps up with all the illustration rare arts haha
I do miss the hand cams though
The week off from the podcast felt even longer, waiting to hear y'all's takes on worlds. Glad y'all are back.
19:59 Wow! Thank you so much, Chip & Azul!
One of the most anticipated UE episodes to the current year. Thanks for the show!
"We don't need a moment" Cracked me up 🤣🤣🤣
1:00:27 only thing I would like to change in the new screen is being able to see the hands and also switch more to the player cams
20:15 - Cool to see Control Players Unite being brought up. It's an excellent channel to watch for rules analysis.
I feel like not recording and posting the panels at worlds is a big miss
Yep
About Bradner, I think many people's issue with this is that it isn't like this is the first time he has been on stream playing like this. If he plays this slow on stream, I can only imagine what it is like off stream.
Its strange because it seems inconsistent. I was a floor judge at this year's worlds, and I actually was watching his match vs Jesse. I'd heard things about his play in the past, so I thought I'd check tempo of play just in case, and they both honestly played very quickly. I wasn't able to follow the stream match due to my other judging obligations, but his off-stream play didn't seem too worrying during the time I spent watching him on the floor.
Just as an aside, the reason Pokemon cards still have the pokeball opening the wrong way is because they can't change it without causing issues with mismatched card backs. It's the same reason you can't play japanese cards alongside other languages, it's because even with card sleeves on, you might be able to tell which card backs are different and therefore they become marked cards. If the card backs EVER change, they'll instantly become unplayable alongside all cards created until that point.
I thought the new overlay was cool, but I didn’t like how it kills the aspect ratio of the shot both making it hard to see the players hands as well as makes me feel like I’m looking vertically on my phone
Some feedback for the overlay on stream:
Could the overlay collapse or disappear every now and then? Like on a timer or pivotal moments bring it back for knock outs? That way we can see more of the players hands and feel less claustrophobic. I still really like the overlay but it would be nice if it could disappear every now and then during the game.
I’m reminded of how in pokemon stadium when you select an attack or option it expands the menu and when completed it collapses.
Yup, I am much more comfortable with the usual stream format, sure it is easier to track especially for people with less knowledge in the game, but to me it’s overcrowded with everything constantly ‘in your face’. They went on to familiarize the Japan’s stream format but unfortunately it’s not working for me.
As someone who is a causal player, the overlay was very nice.
ROtation after worlds makes the most sense imo
As a new player, I loved the new overlays from world's. I thought it was one of the best overlays for any TCG that I've seen
When I used to play 04-13 the season used to end on the last day of August and the new season started on the 1st of September with rotation. So worlds would be the last deck of that format. It makes sense because now you can rock up to a comp after worlds, in the same format, with the exact same 60 that won worlds. Makes no sense.
The new stream overlay is really cool I just miss face cams to get the players live reaction to big moments in the game
Perfect thumbnail btw.
The overlay was pretty useful because it's hard to tell at first what some Pokémon are because of different art or foiling or whatever. You can eventually get it from context, but it's nice to have that info at a glance. With a Magic-style card extension, it would have everything I could ask for.
17:08 for anyone curious (hi VGC person here): it was a top 8 game, the player did not get a penalty, but on the video of the match on Pokemon's YT playlist, there is a suspicious jump in time that happens to coincide with that. It's why I think they were a lot more willing to "lay down the law" with Ian here
Such copium by Chip saying “we should have wanted this result because we would have wanted a cheater getting a penalty that allows opponent to advance”… Even if it was BM’ing, and it seems like it was, it was far from an egregious gesture and they drew way more attention to this with their ridiculous decision. I get Chip trying to protect his job, but we gotta live in reality here…
I look forward to each podcast, keep up the good work guys 👍
I'm fairly sure you could actually mouse over a card during the stream and get the details of what it could do! I remember seeing it during the finals, hovering over Iron Thorns brought its info up via an extension.
Not being able to see the player’s hands was a big let down. The camera crew was also not timing well. I know there’s a lot of people handling that so it’s complicated. But I remember a caster even saying on stream to get the camera over to a certain situation. Or that they missed something because the camera wasn’t on it, especially pokéstops.
i DO believe the new overlay on twitch DOES let you mouseover the big card on the bottom left that they show, and it pops up with all the info. in this case at 59:00 it would be the raging bolt ex that pops up with the info and text. however its only limited to that one card card theyre currently showing in the bottom left, which is usually still good because they tend to show the important cards that are being used currently in the turn.
Let’s go control players unite finally getting some recognition
No such thing as a control player. You’re called cringe stall players who ruin the game. Rest in piss
I loved the new stream overlay. I watch all the streams and depending on if im on my phone or on a bigger screen, damage and conditions can be hard to see sometimes. Sometimes My dad who very loosely understands the game wants to watch the streams and I think this will massively help him understand a board state. I also like how it allowed for more than one card image to be shown on screen at once
You could in fact mouse over the cards and spots on the overlay to get information from the cards
Slow play is stupid. If my opponent bricks and can't search their deck turn 1 going 1st or 2nd who cares, can I really just sit there for a minute or two and search my own because I have a card that allows me to do so? TPCI needs to revise their unspoken rule about "prize-checking" before they hand out warnings for slow play
Overlay was good for sure. I really like how Go let's us see the played so if they could get it to do that it would make it better imo
I thought the overlay was really cool. It added an element that tied the video game and the tcg, which I think is important for player conversion to other parts of the IP. I didn't miss the player cams too much, personally. They're mostly just staring at the table, anyhow. The KO animations were neat too.
The ideal time for rotation could be right before worlds. It forces qualifiers to come up with their own stuff, and gives the best players and deckbuilders a huge opportunity for a leg up. I didn't mind it being Nationals (NAIC) format back in the day as a culmination of the season, but if you talked to anyone who wasn't qualified they were already prepping for next season, and a lot of players would just run basically the same 60 they qualified with and perhaps not even bother preparing that much. An advantage to having rotation after worlds is, in theory, everyone who's qualified has a deck they can play at a high level in the current format; though this is less true when players can earn their invite as early as september these days by winning a regional. So maybe just having a somewhat impactful set come out before worlds, like this year, is a nice balance between the two options.
Rotation before worlds. Actual good players will win, not just those that have practiced a huge amount.
@1:06:21 nah why are professional clown shoes in chips cookies
The new layouts for the stream is nice. I just miss the players face can. When there are big plays I found myself looking to see the players reactions.
When you guys lock in your guess for Flavor Text, before revealing the answer you should give out the other clues first for those playing at home.
I know you do this already when you've got the guess wrong, but it'd be helpful to be consistent across all.
some feedback on the twitch overlay on minute 54, you could interact with it you could even see the last used cards
Voy a comentar en español porque en inglés estoy seguro que me equivocaría en alguna palabra: hay mucho alegato respecto al match loss de Ian que me hace sentir que más que la aplicación correcta de la regla, lo que les molesta a quién se aplica. Mucho de ello viene de quién clasificó y quién quedó fuera... si Fernando perdía contra Jesse Parker o si Jesse Parker pasaba directo a la final, mucha gente en la comunidad estadounidense ni siquiera hablaría del tema, siento que les molesta que el campeón no sea uno de ustedes.
Rotation should happen right after worlds. The season should culminate at Worlds
Great pod
just came back from the uncommon energy pokemon classic vid
+4 points on flavour text, at 85 now
Azul wearing the same shirt in this episode as he was in the video you brought up about the card cheater. Cool coincidence.
Or he just doesn't have many shirts
Azul strikes me as a dude that buys multiples of one type of shirt
i think the overlay didn’t need bench mon attack info for this tourney (maybe it’s in anticipation of N’s zoroark) but i loved the overlay overall!
1:49:50 it works with drago V punch 130 + dragapult when raikou is on the bench
The original Japanese cards from the 90s had the poke ball opening backwards, so Wizards totally based their design off that. The Japanese cards updated eventually, but the U.S. just never will.
Worlds should be its own format and rotation should happen immediately so the new season can be all post rotation
48:30 I really don't mind the 60 second to make an action if the player is visibly thinking and imagining his actions through the an important turn, what makes me really mad are the 30 seconds shuffles, that should be penalized...
Azul, what was your thought process going into worlds? You mentioned you weren't prepared (as much as you could have). Were just playing Worlds because of having an invite? Didn't feel like this was the worlds you wanted to play?
I'm curious on what the thought process was.
CPU gang let's go!!! 💪
I thought it was gonna be Florida too
Finally a new episode 🎉
You can mouse over the other games because they are digital version of games versus Pokemon is a physical card game streamed.
I wish more people met Pocket with more skepticism. It’s seems like an obvious cash grab that will likely be riddled with micro transactions. Probably will not provide good experiences as a digital collecting app nor a competitive game.
I would like to see player cams back
its funny how gradually chip became the one that shuffle cards, its been a while since azul did it
Who you play in a tournament 1000% matters ... He lost to a deck/game mechanic that would not have been present if not for the Match Loss
Raz didnt play fez btw
8 benched Pokemon whaaaaaatttt!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Azul said winning is random
1:17:50 lol it’s cos of ORANGE county 😂
I think they anounce San Francisco because the football (soccer) World Cup, which is in summer 2026
Every youtuber reposted this kid whacking air off LOL
Azul drinks milk from a glass
Stellar crown release is 13th Sept so surely it's legal for baltimore right?
No, legal in Dortmund.
It will be legal from 27th
Chip.. Read the section for match losses please. Pokemon DID NOT follow their own rules
There is only 6 fezandipiti in top 8 raz and fernando didnt play it
Somos el mejor pais de chile🇨🇱 tierra de iron thorns y feñita cifuentes
Having pride in your country and fellow countrymen is what makes for awesome fans and compelling competition. You got everyone this year. Congrats to the country of Chile
i am with azul that ian was looking at a friend to show he won and get rekted scrub
SD woulda been way better than La or Sf
I didn’t enjoy the overlay. It made me turn it off. You’re looking at a board and hands on occasion. Seeing people play and their faces is more interactive imo. To have the card overlay come up occasionally is the play. Also health bar is lame. Xxx/180hp is fine. It made it feel like they wanted you to watch an animation game and not a physical card game
i do think you friend is projecting about the silence. as far as we know he could have a no disclosre agreement from the pokemon company to not talk about it or hes trying to hype it up for free clout like on sept 1st where hes dueling jesse and using it to gain social media presence
These players should be banned for life.
California is one of the worst states in the country
Y’all ready for Baltimore?
too bad its in the longest video in the world... wtf.
Should've been a game loss at most. Match loss for unsportsmanlike conduct is ridiculous.
Definitely, I can’t go 2 matches now on live without playing against a stupid thorns deck 😭
I really don't understand. My biggest problem is that they show him losing. but then let the loser pass for the final without any good story or explanation IN THE STREAM, this makes the entire stream very disappointing
It’s not a kids game people need to just grow up u should be able to celebrate within reason it wasn’t that crazy just stop overreacting to everything do y’all see what is allowed on twitch and UA-cam to children ?
If it's not a kids game then why do they have a Junior division for kids under 13 (that even got featured in the finals)
Also, Twitch actually has an age restriction and you can't use it if you're under 13 years old
@@urban_no_mad I’m not breaking it down for u my man the thousands that pay thousands of dollars to travel and support the game vs the couple hundred it simply isn’t that big a deal especially when compared to what Else goes on just stop
At the end it’s a good business decision for what they want their target audience to be. The competitive scene is the minority audience for them. Appease the general public.
I don't think it being a kids game was the reason. I'm pretty sure gestures like that are common because that's a thing people do on instinct. I think it had more to do with it being on an official stream, because if it weren't for that I'm pretty sure no one would have cared.