@BeardedFordTech I just don't get what causes the noise. It revs with acceleration up to a certain point. It just seems like it has to be piston noise but I don't know. Seems like at idol it has low oil pressure and makes the noise. Once you give it enough acceleration to build oil pressure it goes away. I don't know, it just drives me nuts. You pull into a stor or something and sounds like your driving a piece crap with a motor knock. Oh yea I guess I am. LoL. I love the truck. Great truck great power. Just drives me nuts. Along with the stalling every once in a while.
@@lonewolf744 phasers and solenoids will cause the stall. It is very low oil pressure at idle. It uses a variable geometry oil pump controlled by an actuator.
@lindin_h I DO NOT recommend adding certatec to any engine. And I do not recommend it for the 5.0 liter. It's been doing it since 2011. And since 2018 people have made a big deal about it. It's not hurting anything. Do not add anything to the oil
Is this similar to 3.5 eco boost noises? I got the timing chain rattle repaired under warranty on my 2018 F150, but it still sounds like metal is rattling around in the engine when idling or driving slowly.
Nope. The BBQ tick doesn't sound like metal rattling. Sound like lighting a propane BBQ grill lighter. If your hearing metallic rattling. Take the belt off the water pump and start it. If you don't hear the noise then it's the water pump. If you do hear it, you may have another problem. Reason I say remove the belt. If the water pump fins are scraping the engine you won't hear it with the belt removed cause it won't be spinning.
Yep. Normal. Not all of them do it. My neighbor has one. It doesn't do it. But I see some at the gas station up the road. Some of theirs do it. Some don't. Weird.
@@BeardedFordTech Any perspective on the oil volume? Ford says 9.5 qts, but the dip stick on the 2024 if you put 9.5 qts is registering at the low end of the dip stick. 10 quarts puts right in the middle.
@@BeardedFordTech do you have all data? So I’m in school now for the ASE program and I don’t plan to work as a mechanic I’m just furthering my knowledge but that’s the access they gave us and yeah sometimes it doesn’t have the data I need.
I got a 23 S550 its got 5,000 miles with no tick, other day i did the first oil change and now it had the tick noise. From what i read theirs no reason to worry but its very annoying.
Always after the first oil change is when it happens. Why didn't you do the first oil change at 1k miles? Although not needed. Highly recommended. They tell you it's "broke in" but it's not. But yes the tick is annoying. Nothing wrong. And you'll notice the further you go through your oil change. It get quieter and quieter until you change the oil again.
@@BeardedFordTech I bought the car from somebody I knew, they bought the car with about 900miles, he put about 3,500 on it in about a year in half of him owning it, he said he did a oil change. I'm around the guy everyday, I don't remember it having done. Then I buy it with about 4900miles after 100miles of owning it I changed it. The car sits alot in the garage when my daily is a Cummins. The coyote is getting borla atak and a tune in a couple weeks, an this tick started, it had me worried.
Yeah the tick won't go away. Was it your car you sent me a video of? If I remember correctly we talked for a little bit about it and come to find out it is the BBQ tick
Hey BFT I just got a Ranger Raptor and it is recommended that you use 91 octane gas. Many stations in my area have 91 octane gas that is marked for recreational vehicles and small engines only. This gas has no ethanol and is actually illegal to use in passenger vehicles I am told. Must be because the farmers have a very strong lobbing group. The real question is can you use recreational gas in the Raptor and would it have the correct additive packages for my truck? I know it must be hard to figure out but if it’s a Top Tier gas wouldn’t it be acceptable?
We don't have 91 here. We have 87 89 93 and all three are at gas stations. I don't see why 91 would be illegal to use? All the fuel have the same "ad packs" it's just the octane rating that's different. I've never heard of 91 being for recreational use only. That's odd
My ‘21 F250 6.2L has a “normal” typewriter tick…more pronounced at 1500 rpms. So damn annoying. Started around 8k miles. Now at 30k and no change. I heard putting sound deadener on the fuel rails helps. I’ll be doing that soon and trying Liqui Moly oil with ceratec additive. Have heard positive things of taking the tick down a few decibels. I’m desperate enough to try. I’m tired of having to drive around with my stereo volume up to drown out the tick. 😩
Ceretec works but quickly breaks down. And you spend more money on it every oil change. Amsoil quiets it down. I haven't come across typewriter tick on the 6.2. Just injector tick. There should be foam around the fuel rail.
@@BeardedFordTech Yea supposed to take the foam off, apply the deadener, then put the foam back on. Worth a shot for me. Nothing intrusive other than unplugging a few lines. I know it’s more pronounced on the drivers side. I’ve read various 6.2 owners say injectors, plastic valve covers make more noise, bad valve springs, Valve train, cam phasers, roller follower, etc. And just to live with it and still hit 200k+ miles. I dunno how dudes do it. I can listen to an engine rumble, turbos blowoff, supercharge whine, etc. But gah damn the tapping makes me want to punch a baby 😂😩
@Sea2TC if the tapping doesn't go away when ypu apply throttle and get louder and faster with engine rpm you may have a problem. Worth a shot to remove the foam put the deadner and reinstall the foam. I'm with ya on that one.
Just changed to amsoil on my 16 and keep using 5w-30. Haven’t noticed a huge difference compared to swapping from 20-30 which lowered engine noise in general. But we will see how it performs in the long term. Very price at $108 just for the oil. Would love to try liqui molly
@@BeardedFordTechi will probably just stick to rotella or Mobil one. Like paying double when all of them are synthetic and I change it way before the manual says with a new filter every time it’s better for my budget.
@Taino5.0 that mobil 1 will be way past your budget. After about 1000 miles. It'd way under viscosity and the ad pack is almost gone. It's made to the lowest standard to be considered synthetic. Mobil 1 used to be good. Not ao much anymore. She'll is pretty good. We did oil testing on mobil 1. And the test shows it's horrible. That's not an opinion.
@@BeardedFordTechwhich Mobil 1 I’ve looked up some full synthetic and they are like $30 for each 5Q jug. Might stick to Valvoline then. Rotella I have not seen on any ones top lists.
You wouldn't notice much of a difference but your machinist will be able to see the difference after engine disassembly. There is a reason amsoil isn't cheap, it's not cheap to produce. I personally run mobil 1 in my SUV, it doesn't see much load it's mainly a kid and grocery hauler, 165k on it and not a mechanical issue with the engine yet, but my built 93 mustang I run amsoil zrod 20w50 in it. It all comes down to what it's being used for, if it's something you don't ever plan on getting rid of or sees high load or any extreme conditions I would run amsoil, royal purple or any other same tier oil, oil is cheap insurance for an engine, even at 100 dollars for just the oil.
I only ask as 3 years Ago I did a 150 that had the tick at idle and I found cylinder 6and 7 the main bearings where bad and the there was 0.0018 to much clearance on the Bore so I bored it out and new over sized bearings and never had a tick ever again
It's actually from lower oil pressure at idle. It's heard under the car toward the bell housing. Not on top. My buddy is a tech at ford in Kansas. We think we found a fix messing around with stuff. Not sure yet. Can't release that info til we know for sure
@@BeardedFordTech Awesome well I hope it works and you can patent it and make it rich ... or at least leave you mark on the automotive world but if you make it rich may bey you can get me a new coffee mug Fluffys taking for ever lol
Hydro boot man last week got 3 reman units through napa and I sewar all that was done to them was a spray paint job and after the client wasting my time and there money they finally listened to me and got an OEM and Bam Fixed and i got a 5.4 with the oil leak on the right rear cylinder head and no compression on 4 cylinders in that 4x4 conversion Van that I was hired to rebuild the Differential in
Yeah parts like hydroboost and turbos main parts like that. DEF systems exhaust filters I go OEM. I got burned on compressors from oreillys. They lasted like a week. So your no compression is it all on one side? Timing chain?
I have a couple of friends that one has a 2018 mustang 5.0 and the other has a 2023 f150 with the 5.0 they both drove 1000 miles for a break in then switched to Amsoil the mustang has 50,000 miles on it and the f150 has 8000 miles on it and they both don’t tick
@ARTEM-ui4wx amsoil with an amsoil filters does it too. Only it will start again when you change the oil and filter. Amsoil and wix are basically the same filter
@@ARTEM-ui4wx the full synthetic motocraft is decent. The bulk synthetic blend isn't made to go far. They should factory fill these with amsoil 5w50. 5w50 is factory fill for the shelby with super chargers would eliminate a lot of the issues. Some guys run euro 5w40 and the noise goes away
@hpkntnw it doesn't. Not sny of them that we ran 5w50 in. It's still there. Normal meaning it just does it. Not hurting anything. Even the powerstrokes do it and I run 5w40 in them. I wouldn't run 5w50 in a mustang unless it was supercharged
@@tylerolson5860if it’s so wrong why is 5w-50 all that ford performance uses in their cars? Why when you order a coyote crate engine why does it say fill it with 5w-50? The 5w-30 is fuel economy only.
My 14 is quiet but I would be annoyed for sure if it ticked. I don't understand how changing the oil can make it come or go and it not be a lubrication issue which is definitely not normal. Just ask any competent engine builder.
Yep. Not sure how it's after oil change. But usually the further you go on that oil it quiets down. Then you change it and it does it again. But not all of them do it. A friend works at ford in Kansas. And i was talking with him about it. We may have found a fix. Still needs more testing. But. We are working on it. Can't really release too much info on that. But. Soon as we know for sure. The world will know.
@@BeardedFordTech How'd that top secret high level testing go? Any big breakthroughs? Im sure the engineers are dying to hear from you. The world needs answers!
I change mine 10k. It doesnt do it. My neighbor has a s650 and his does it. He changes it every 4k miles. So change intervals have nothing to do with it. Some do.it some.dont. There is no "on time to change oil" everyone is different.
@@BeardedFordTech people make wayyyyy to much out of this between the 4 coyotes ive had zero have had issues and likely 300k miles combined between the 4. Its a pointless arguement. I also believe in driving them pretty hard from day 1 also. No cupcake driving for me ever. Its all cross country or metro dc traffic.
@tylerolson5860 i agree. A lot of the people who complain don't own the car or truck and try and make a big deal out of it. I don't baby mine either. Neither does my neighbor with his s650. His does it though. It's hit or miss. The ones that do it operate just fine with no issues. You got anything done to yours? Or is it stock?
@@BeardedFordTech 16 5.0 had a CJ mani on E85 AED tune and Roush exhaust gone. 18 5.0 wheels only didnt have long before traded for F150. 20 was PP1 A10 car Just exhaust tune audio and wheels gone. 2024 5.0 is 3 weeks old Audio installed Tint this week H pipe ford springs LMR DH rep wheels ordered. Roush Blower for Black friday. Still have 21 3.5 Ecoboost F150 04 Thunderbird and 19 Exploder work Hoe too. LOL its a ford Fleet.
Thanks for your vids man. That's exactly where the noise is on my f150. Wheel well and trans. It starts about 10 seconds after starting.✌🏼
Yep. That's the BBQ/Typewriter tick
@BeardedFordTech I just don't get what causes the noise. It revs with acceleration up to a certain point. It just seems like it has to be piston noise but I don't know. Seems like at idol it has low oil pressure and makes the noise. Once you give it enough acceleration to build oil pressure it goes away. I don't know, it just drives me nuts. You pull into a stor or something and sounds like your driving a piece crap with a motor knock. Oh yea I guess I am. LoL. I love the truck. Great truck great power. Just drives me nuts. Along with the stalling every once in a while.
@@lonewolf744 phasers and solenoids will cause the stall. It is very low oil pressure at idle. It uses a variable geometry oil pump controlled by an actuator.
Do you recommend adding ceratec in a 24? Dealer says they advise against it as it’s normal, they claim it’s the “high pressure DI fuel pump”.
@lindin_h I DO NOT recommend adding certatec to any engine. And I do not recommend it for the 5.0 liter. It's been doing it since 2011. And since 2018 people have made a big deal about it. It's not hurting anything. Do not add anything to the oil
Is this similar to 3.5 eco boost noises? I got the timing chain rattle repaired under warranty on my 2018 F150, but it still sounds like metal is rattling around in the engine when idling or driving slowly.
Nope. The BBQ tick doesn't sound like metal rattling. Sound like lighting a propane BBQ grill lighter. If your hearing metallic rattling. Take the belt off the water pump and start it. If you don't hear the noise then it's the water pump. If you do hear it, you may have another problem. Reason I say remove the belt. If the water pump fins are scraping the engine you won't hear it with the belt removed cause it won't be spinning.
@@BeardedFordTech thanks man
@@ATHLETE.X np
2024 owner here, ours just started at 1100 after first oil change.
Yep. Normal. Not all of them do it. My neighbor has one. It doesn't do it. But I see some at the gas station up the road. Some of theirs do it. Some don't. Weird.
@@BeardedFordTech Any perspective on the oil volume? Ford says 9.5 qts, but the dip stick on the 2024 if you put 9.5 qts is registering at the low end of the dip stick. 10 quarts puts right in the middle.
I have access to shop key pro and I saw the other tsb/recalls for the 24 mustang. That’s the first place I checked when buying this car.
Shop.kwu pro isn't that great. I have access to all ford tabs and recalls cause I used ford software.
@@BeardedFordTech do you have all data? So I’m in school now for the ASE program and I don’t plan to work as a mechanic I’m just furthering my knowledge but that’s the access they gave us and yeah sometimes it doesn’t have the data I need.
@E85_STI I have ford software. Alldata and Mitchell pro demand
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I got a 23 S550 its got 5,000 miles with no tick, other day i did the first oil change and now it had the tick noise. From what i read theirs no reason to worry but its very annoying.
Always after the first oil change is when it happens. Why didn't you do the first oil change at 1k miles? Although not needed. Highly recommended. They tell you it's "broke in" but it's not. But yes the tick is annoying. Nothing wrong. And you'll notice the further you go through your oil change. It get quieter and quieter until you change the oil again.
@@BeardedFordTech I bought the car from somebody I knew, they bought the car with about 900miles, he put about 3,500 on it in about a year in half of him owning it, he said he did a oil change. I'm around the guy everyday, I don't remember it having done. Then I buy it with about 4900miles after 100miles of owning it I changed it. The car sits alot in the garage when my daily is a Cummins. The coyote is getting borla atak and a tune in a couple weeks, an this tick started, it had me worried.
I think I was the first to report the 2024 Mustang tick on UA-cam …still ticks and I’m at 13,000 miles now
Yeah the tick won't go away. Was it your car you sent me a video of? If I remember correctly we talked for a little bit about it and come to find out it is the BBQ tick
Hey BFT I just got a Ranger Raptor and it is recommended that you use 91 octane gas. Many stations in my area have 91 octane gas that is marked for recreational vehicles and small engines only. This gas has no ethanol and is actually illegal to use in passenger vehicles I am told. Must be because the farmers have a very strong lobbing group.
The real question is can you use recreational gas in the Raptor and would it have the correct additive packages for my truck? I know it must be hard to figure out but if it’s a Top Tier gas wouldn’t it be acceptable?
We don't have 91 here. We have 87 89 93 and all three are at gas stations. I don't see why 91 would be illegal to use? All the fuel have the same "ad packs" it's just the octane rating that's different. I've never heard of 91 being for recreational use only. That's odd
My ‘21 F250 6.2L has a “normal” typewriter tick…more pronounced at 1500 rpms. So damn annoying. Started around 8k miles. Now at 30k and no change. I heard putting sound deadener on the fuel rails helps. I’ll be doing that soon and trying Liqui Moly oil with ceratec additive. Have heard positive things of taking the tick down a few decibels. I’m desperate enough to try. I’m tired of having to drive around with my stereo volume up to drown out the tick. 😩
Ceretec works but quickly breaks down. And you spend more money on it every oil change. Amsoil quiets it down. I haven't come across typewriter tick on the 6.2. Just injector tick. There should be foam around the fuel rail.
@@BeardedFordTech Yea supposed to take the foam off, apply the deadener, then put the foam back on. Worth a shot for me. Nothing intrusive other than unplugging a few lines. I know it’s more pronounced on the drivers side. I’ve read various 6.2 owners say injectors, plastic valve covers make more noise, bad valve springs, Valve train, cam phasers, roller follower, etc. And just to live with it and still hit 200k+ miles. I dunno how dudes do it. I can listen to an engine rumble, turbos blowoff, supercharge whine, etc. But gah damn the tapping makes me want to punch a baby 😂😩
@Sea2TC if the tapping doesn't go away when ypu apply throttle and get louder and faster with engine rpm you may have a problem. Worth a shot to remove the foam put the deadner and reinstall the foam. I'm with ya on that one.
Just changed to amsoil on my 16 and keep using 5w-30. Haven’t noticed a huge difference compared to swapping from 20-30 which lowered engine noise in general. But we will see how it performs in the long term. Very price at $108 just for the oil. Would love to try liqui molly
Liqui Moly isn't what it's made out to be. It's more for motorcycles and European cars. It started in motogp
@@BeardedFordTechi will probably just stick to rotella or Mobil one. Like paying double when all of them are synthetic and I change it way before the manual says with a new filter every time it’s better for my budget.
@Taino5.0 that mobil 1 will be way past your budget. After about 1000 miles. It'd way under viscosity and the ad pack is almost gone. It's made to the lowest standard to be considered synthetic. Mobil 1 used to be good. Not ao much anymore. She'll is pretty good. We did oil testing on mobil 1. And the test shows it's horrible. That's not an opinion.
@@BeardedFordTechwhich Mobil 1 I’ve looked up some full synthetic and they are like $30 for each 5Q jug. Might stick to Valvoline then. Rotella I have not seen on any ones top lists.
You wouldn't notice much of a difference but your machinist will be able to see the difference after engine disassembly. There is a reason amsoil isn't cheap, it's not cheap to produce. I personally run mobil 1 in my SUV, it doesn't see much load it's mainly a kid and grocery hauler, 165k on it and not a mechanical issue with the engine yet, but my built 93 mustang I run amsoil zrod 20w50 in it. It all comes down to what it's being used for, if it's something you don't ever plan on getting rid of or sees high load or any extreme conditions I would run amsoil, royal purple or any other same tier oil, oil is cheap insurance for an engine, even at 100 dollars for just the oil.
so is the tick from Lifter design, tensioner pressure fluctuation or Cam timing ?? wonder if any one found an aftermarket solution for it
I only ask as 3 years Ago I did a 150 that had the tick at idle and I found cylinder 6and 7 the main bearings where bad and the there was 0.0018 to much clearance on the Bore so I bored it out and new over sized bearings and never had a tick ever again
It's actually from lower oil pressure at idle. It's heard under the car toward the bell housing. Not on top. My buddy is a tech at ford in Kansas. We think we found a fix messing around with stuff. Not sure yet. Can't release that info til we know for sure
@@BeardedFordTech Awesome well I hope it works and you can patent it and make it rich ... or at least leave you mark on the automotive world but if you make it rich may bey you can get me a new coffee mug Fluffys taking for ever lol
Hydro boot man last week got 3 reman units through napa and I sewar all that was done to them was a spray paint job and after the client wasting my time and there money they finally listened to me and got an OEM and Bam Fixed and i got a 5.4 with the oil leak on the right rear cylinder head and no compression on 4 cylinders in that 4x4 conversion Van that I was hired to rebuild the Differential in
Yeah parts like hydroboost and turbos main parts like that. DEF systems exhaust filters I go OEM. I got burned on compressors from oreillys. They lasted like a week. So your no compression is it all on one side? Timing chain?
this Van has a Crazy story on it
Why cant Ford give a straightfoward explanation of the cause? Ducking responsibility? Cant revise the engine after all these years?
I have a couple of friends that one has a 2018 mustang 5.0 and the other has a 2023 f150 with the 5.0 they both drove 1000 miles for a break in then switched to Amsoil the mustang has 50,000 miles on it and the f150 has 8000 miles on it and they both don’t tick
My 18 mustang gt doesn't do it. I run amsoil. But then again. Not all of them do it. Careful with that f150. It has a wet belt for the oil pump
That’s the oil I’m going to use for my first oil change
@@E85_STI 💯💯
Wix filter and amsoil will fix this I had 2021 gt
@ARTEM-ui4wx amsoil with an amsoil filters does it too. Only it will start again when you change the oil and filter. Amsoil and wix are basically the same filter
@@ARTEM-ui4wx I have a 18 gt
@@BeardedFordTech I think ford oil is just cheap like water they should use amsoil for performance vehicles V8 this motor will last longer
@@ARTEM-ui4wx the full synthetic motocraft is decent. The bulk synthetic blend isn't made to go far. They should factory fill these with amsoil 5w50. 5w50 is factory fill for the shelby with super chargers would eliminate a lot of the issues. Some guys run euro 5w40 and the noise goes away
OEM Motorcraft filter and oil or walk. LOL 4 Coyotes zero issues.
Just got this noise happening on my 5.0 scared me, I just did the valve covers and vvts
For the tick? The VVT would be a rattle on start up. Or it would bog down at idle and want to die
@@BeardedFordTech yea motor would almost die at stop light so I changed VVTs, doesn't shake as much now either
@spn455 you change the vvt solenoid too? I did a video on that when i was still at the dealer.
@@BeardedFordTech yea.alright. they never mentioned the vvt seal would be a hassle
@@spn455 I don't replace the seal unless it's worn or leaking.
My does it sometimes and sometimes it doesn’t 2024 gt competition pkg
Yep. It's random. Some don't do it at all. The ones that do it's very sporadic
So if it’s “normal” why does it go away if you use 5W-50?
@hpkntnw it doesn't. Not sny of them that we ran 5w50 in. It's still there. Normal meaning it just does it. Not hurting anything. Even the powerstrokes do it and I run 5w40 in them. I wouldn't run 5w50 in a mustang unless it was supercharged
Wrong. The car uses VVT and VCT on all 4 cams shouldntuse 5-50
@@tylerolson5860if it’s so wrong why is 5w-50 all that ford performance uses in their cars? Why when you order a coyote crate engine why does it say fill it with 5w-50? The 5w-30 is fuel economy only.
My 14 is quiet but I would be annoyed for sure if it ticked. I don't understand how changing the oil can make it come or go and it not be a lubrication issue which is definitely not normal. Just ask any competent engine builder.
Yep. Not sure how it's after oil change. But usually the further you go on that oil it quiets down. Then you change it and it does it again. But not all of them do it. A friend works at ford in Kansas. And i was talking with him about it. We may have found a fix. Still needs more testing. But. We are working on it. Can't really release too much info on that. But. Soon as we know for sure. The world will know.
@@BeardedFordTech Yeah, ok buddy
@j1j1j1j1j1 i own one of these cars. I would know. Plus I worked for ford for many years. So yeah okay buddy. Have a great day clown 🤡
@@BeardedFordTech How'd that top secret high level testing go? Any big breakthroughs? Im sure the engineers are dying to hear from you. The world needs answers!
Change the oil at 6k or less and Ive had 3 S550s and 1 S650. NONE did it. Change the damn oil on time people
I change mine 10k. It doesnt do it. My neighbor has a s650 and his does it. He changes it every 4k miles. So change intervals have nothing to do with it. Some do.it some.dont. There is no "on time to change oil" everyone is different.
Even says in the tsb. Some not all do it. Even the truck.
@@BeardedFordTech people make wayyyyy to much out of this between the 4 coyotes ive had zero have had issues and likely 300k miles combined between the 4. Its a pointless arguement. I also believe in driving them pretty hard from day 1 also. No cupcake driving for me ever. Its all cross country or metro dc traffic.
@tylerolson5860 i agree. A lot of the people who complain don't own the car or truck and try and make a big deal out of it. I don't baby mine either. Neither does my neighbor with his s650. His does it though. It's hit or miss. The ones that do it operate just fine with no issues. You got anything done to yours? Or is it stock?
@@BeardedFordTech 16 5.0 had a CJ mani on E85 AED tune and Roush exhaust gone. 18 5.0 wheels only didnt have long before traded for F150. 20 was PP1 A10 car Just exhaust tune audio and wheels gone. 2024 5.0 is 3 weeks old Audio installed Tint this week H pipe ford springs LMR DH rep wheels ordered. Roush Blower for Black friday. Still have 21 3.5 Ecoboost F150 04 Thunderbird and 19 Exploder work Hoe too. LOL its a ford Fleet.
ohhhhhh no :(
Yeah 😞
Where's the bbq? Good video!
@@Uncle_Fester24 I wish it was BBQ. That sounds good 👍
I ordered a Oil Test kit from speedDiagnostix showed up today! Woot!
@@Uncle_Fester24 sweet!! Fast turn around time