People always put emphasis on Jingg and Forsaken but without Benkai, Mindfreak and Davai to set them up its not easy to frag out of their mind like they do. Props to the whole team playing in sync with one another.
yuppp, the paranoias, the walls, the clutches, the trade frags, the rat spots that win rounds, great adaptations mid rounds, prx will not win without mindfreak, davai, and benkai.
I like them all, Jing and Forsaken always looks standout because they feel safe when being aggressive, the reason is because they have benkai, mindfreak and davai on the back to close the round after they got some info and also kill.
There is something to be said tho about how perfectly and creatively forsaken used the Yoru. Ive never seen anyone utilize the agent so well. Every play he made seemed to be done with intention and his aggression was paired well with the characters abilities to take space, cause confusion, and win duels. Excellent game from Forsaken and big props to PRX for finding a way to combo with and make use of such a good Yoru player
true. that yoru ult into viper's pit to brim ult the viper almost didn't work, but they made use of util and the space made really well. it looks like chaos from the outside but from their perspective there's a perfectly synced coordination. it's amazing watching them play
Opponent could not even react to f0rsaken and jinggg. They died even before they could shoot. These guys are extremely fast. I am sure Prx can win without any strats or utility by only relying on raw aim
@@boss_niko nah prx has strat, their strat is rooted in controlled chaos to the observer it looks like they dont have strat but they have its just different to how everyone else play and their strat revolve around press W balls to the wall snd swinging it which makes it so fun to watch
@@boss_niko nah. Otherwise sentinels would be in the tourney. PRX doesn't just hold w and burn teams with their aim. They use controlled aggression. Like on split defense. One then died while pushed up into garage. And the other team assumed it was clear. But nah there was another prx player there to trade. Shit like that which no team would expect. That's their Strat. And because the other teams aren't expecting it, they create a reaction advantage and get easy kills.
On a more serious note, analysts for professional teams are much, much, much more in depth than a 11 minute video. Nonetheless, I still love watching Thinking Man's! His analysis aren't boring and pretty short!
The calmest and team player guy(Benkai) paired with the one of most AGGRESSIVE and cracked dueler(Forsaken) = The best duo but you just need them to listen to each other.
@@thesilvanalyst6880 I was thinking the same thing jing seems like the mad man that pushes like crazy forsaken just looks like an aim god with calculated aggression
In round 11 when Forsaken went to B, he actually activates his fake yoru to walk up showers while his teammates run to tp. It just adds that little bit of depth to his play here.
I like how avova was interviewed after and said that yoru didn’t impact the game very much as an agent, mans just couldn’t comprehend what just happened to his team.
In the interview he said that he never used fake tp that were of actual value but in reality wat he did was he actually did use fake tp 1or 2 rounds and then the next round he actual tped to that risky spot without flashing or anything and it actually worked as the players in that area thought it was a fake but it was real so he actually got 2 picks just becoz of this, I think the yoru was pretty valuable and also yoru ult is the no. 1 counter to viper's ult which we did saw in the match 2-3 times
I mean yoru's play style is to confuse and misinform enemies, and I guess Avova was still misinformed in the interview. Yoru's like a behind the scenes character, you can't really notice the impact of the plays because that's exactly how he is played.
By far the most entertaining team in the world they live up to the "SEA DOES WHATEVER WORKS" A total coordinated chaos! Even the observers said that it was the most chaotic game that they observed especially when observing jingg and forsaken. Love this team I hope they could place 2nd or deadass win the whole tournament.
Lets just not forget the role of jingg... The amount of times this guy is just ready to go and entry create space for team and then die without getting a killl or 1 and still not loose confidence to make big plays until he gets 1 that horrifies the other side.... Damn
that's so great, I love paper rex for doing a yoru-breach combination. I swear, high elo and even professional play can be so boring when people pick the same duelists all the time, or the same agent comps for a map every time. besides, yoru is one of the most entertaining and creative duelists I've seen--I'm glad he's getting the spotlight here.
the new yoru remind us to old astra when you can play fake smoke with lower cooldown. I think everytime there is agent with ability to fake can make this kind of gameplay like they have one extra ability
This series was the first time I've ever watched pro play live, largely due to to these analysis from you. There was a special new kind of appeal is seeing a video of a game I've already watched myself and having things that flew over my head pointed out.
the master of disinformation. The two teleport, full visibility and being able to use abilities while in ult and rework clone made him a viable pick now instead of being a troll pick
Cypher as well, im maining (d3/immo) not to sound douchey but u can get an enermous amount of space on the map for free with him, the cam traps, one ways are deadly when u know the rigjt timing to use or if u should peek it, i won countless post plants just by placing my camera in the sightline of the spike and playing of off it, it buys so much time, dont get me even started on how creative u can get with the cages, one ways, possibility for agressive plays on attack or still being able to cut off sightlines for the team after the controller dies... moderate value if ur average with him but if u master him he's deadly
5:58 one thing i think worth mentioning that was definitely a lucky timing for forsaken was when omen ulted to heaven right as forsaken came out of the tp (so he didn't hear the door) just cool how it all came together for them. so happy to finally be seeing good yoru tech in the pro scene
this masters is such a beautiful cinderella story, all the big favourites out, zeta, the absolute underdog knocking out drx pretty convincingly, and im so hyped for all the matches still to come. Loud probably takes it tho
Both Jing and Forsaken were called "Thep Songkram" or "God of War" (Thep,เทพ = god and Songkram,สงคราม = war) by Thai streamers when they match on rank games.
May i make a request? I love your commentary and your pacing on the gameplay is well done, but is there a way you can finish the clip of when they win the round rather than just take your word for it? My brain wants too see the round finish out somehow, even if you add a small edit. Please and thank you!
I firmly believe that Avova is an escape artist judging by how many times he had narrowly missed getting bombarded by Jing's ult. Shit was so funny everytime lmao
at 7:20 I feel like f0rsakeN used his clone more like a meatshield and less than something to purposely get the other team to shoot, hence when he slipped behind it Meddo had already tracked in the front one as him, and might've just not reacted fast enough in the stressful situation. Either way it definitely worked and was overall pretty nifty.
Ive been maining Yoru for a couple weeks now, and Ive gotten the hang of him. And omg Ive been waiting for someone to play him in pro play. Not many have after his rework so I was genuinely curious to see if he could actually hold up in pro play and I am so happy to see that he can.
Is there only ONE team remaining that entered the tournament with a bye in groups? Insane how the pace of the tournament was set in groups and those teams with bye rounds have failed to adjust.
@@mq9281 Another way of saying a team had a guaranteed spot later in the bracket / tournament, avoiding those early elimination rounds. Here for VCT - there were teams like Loud who had earned their spot from a prior play-in or qualifier, so they had a "bye" through the group stage..
Not overpowered but definitely a strong one and a unique one too. Having a good yoru really messes up the standard and usual plays, like you wouldn't expect a guy to be on that spot, or an explosive entry instantly at the back
Yeah he did have it in hand and did use it but only after his teammate died. I mean he still won the round but maybe it would’ve been better to flash, his teammate swings and he gets out of the ult at the same time and then they can’t lose!
The round he pushed with his clone he was using it as cover. Most people when they shoot the clone will turn it as muscle memory so it is surprisingly strong when it works. As with all yoru shenanigans though, it's very reliant on the enemy who has to miss and react against their will. Funny to see that he played yoru no different from how I would aside from team coordination and not missing. Just goes to show how strong yoru can be if used at the pro level
i was no idea what is happening when I watch this live, but then I watch your video I was like,, ohh that is what they're thinking so this analyze makes me better at skill combo haha
i feel like the yoru tp sound is same as bat signal like on the batman movie bruh, “Fear is a tool. When that yoru tp hits the map, it's not just a call. It's a warning.” lol
Paper rex is one of those teams that have a set up in every possible play. They do not have the craziest mid gameplay but hell they do have aim and synergy. They look like the old Fnatic CSGO dynasty.
The yoru gate crash is clearly confuse them.. bcs they dnt even know its a fake or real one,, If u say this so fkin cracked then u guys shd watch him use yoru on haven before get reworked
now prx had shown how do you use yoru in pro play, i can't wait for other teams to use it and even make it further. this is how meta is created. btw prx have 3 different colored flash on their comp lmao, g2 fucked.
People always put emphasis on Jingg and Forsaken but without Benkai, Mindfreak and Davai to set them up its not easy to frag out of their mind like they do. Props to the whole team playing in sync with one another.
yuppp, the paranoias, the walls, the clutches, the trade frags, the rat spots that win rounds, great adaptations mid rounds, prx will not win without mindfreak, davai, and benkai.
I like them all, Jing and Forsaken always looks standout because they feel safe when being aggressive, the reason is because they have benkai, mindfreak and davai on the back to close the round after they got some info and also kill.
There is something to be said tho about how perfectly and creatively forsaken used the Yoru. Ive never seen anyone utilize the agent so well. Every play he made seemed to be done with intention and his aggression was paired well with the characters abilities to take space, cause confusion, and win duels. Excellent game from Forsaken and big props to PRX for finding a way to combo with and make use of such a good Yoru player
true. that yoru ult into viper's pit to brim ult the viper almost didn't work, but they made use of util and the space made really well. it looks like chaos from the outside but from their perspective there's a perfectly synced coordination. it's amazing watching them play
Ye its simple its a strategy game,and it is 5v5 game so yah impossible without them
The man had a 55% hs ratio as well with 29 kills, like my god G2 legit couldn't do much against that... Also yoru legit counters viper ult sooo hard
Hes smurfing in tourney, forsaken is a mad lad
Opponent could not even react to f0rsaken and jinggg. They died even before they could shoot. These guys are extremely fast. I am sure Prx can win without any strats or utility by only relying on raw aim
@@boss_niko nah prx has strat, their strat is rooted in controlled chaos to the observer it looks like they dont have strat but they have its just different to how everyone else play and their strat revolve around press W balls to the wall snd swinging it which makes it so fun to watch
@@boss_niko nah. Otherwise sentinels would be in the tourney. PRX doesn't just hold w and burn teams with their aim. They use controlled aggression. Like on split defense. One then died while pushed up into garage. And the other team assumed it was clear. But nah there was another prx player there to trade. Shit like that which no team would expect. That's their Strat. And because the other teams aren't expecting it, they create a reaction advantage and get easy kills.
@@MuttonErase Prx is obviously more cracked than Sentinels individually
i like how this guy is basically giving free analysis for teams that are currently competing in masters reykjavik 💀
Liquid: hmmmmm... hmmmmm...
Zeta : Naruhodo
Helps both opponents to analyse their plays and also forces Paper Rex to come up with new strats in case of any potential counters
Teams have their own analysts, so it doesn't matter
On a more serious note, analysts for professional teams are much, much, much more in depth than a 11 minute video. Nonetheless, I still love watching Thinking Man's!
His analysis aren't boring and pretty short!
The calmest and team player guy(Benkai) paired with the one of most AGGRESSIVE and cracked dueler(Forsaken) = The best duo but you just need them to listen to each other.
Breach setup, Yoru make plays, Raze follows up.
Haha they are the opposite in real life, forsaken seems soo calm and benkai is funny
Forsaken isn't even the most aggressive player on their team, that title goes solely to their Raze and Reyna maniac.
@@thesilvanalyst6880 I was thinking the same thing jing seems like the mad man that pushes like crazy forsaken just looks like an aim god with calculated aggression
@@thesilvanalyst6880 yeah, Jinggg is more aggressive than f0rsaken which puts the cherry on top for this team
In round 11 when Forsaken went to B, he actually activates his fake yoru to walk up showers while his teammates run to tp. It just adds that little bit of depth to his play here.
I like how avova was interviewed after and said that yoru didn’t impact the game very much as an agent, mans just couldn’t comprehend what just happened to his team.
In the interview he said that he never used fake tp that were of actual value but in reality wat he did was he actually did use fake tp 1or 2 rounds and then the next round he actual tped to that risky spot without flashing or anything and it actually worked as the players in that area thought it was a fake but it was real so he actually got 2 picks just becoz of this, I think the yoru was pretty valuable and also yoru ult is the no. 1 counter to viper's ult which we did saw in the match 2-3 times
I mean yoru's play style is to confuse and misinform enemies, and I guess Avova was still misinformed in the interview. Yoru's like a behind the scenes character, you can't really notice the impact of the plays because that's exactly how he is played.
when team the enemy use viper ult
other = yo lets rotate
Prx = lets find viper and defeat her
Yoru "Lets take down this castle"
Let’s find viper, concuss her, flash her, pull her mask off and watch her choke in her own smoke, and then finish her
By far the most entertaining team in the world they live up to the "SEA DOES WHATEVER WORKS" A total coordinated chaos! Even the observers said that it was the most chaotic game that they observed especially when observing jingg and forsaken. Love this team I hope they could place 2nd or deadass win the whole tournament.
It was definitely on the aggressive side
imagine Loud vs PRX finals. every second is a tiktok clip
@@user-c3jdf9lylzse lmao
personally i still think the most chaotic game is PRX vs PSJ game 1 at fracture, they both are like speedrunning the game
Lets just not forget the role of jingg... The amount of times this guy is just ready to go and entry create space for team and then die without getting a killl or 1 and still not loose confidence to make big plays until he gets 1 that horrifies the other side.... Damn
I do find it funny tho that he missed all of his raze ult lmao
@@itzy3431 ye i know
@@zymple7794 He got meddo once with the ult. That is all
because he is robot
@@zymple7794 yah they even joke about jingg missing most of ults 🤣
damn, almost 11k and you're really putting in work. can't wait to see your sub numbers in a month or 2
that's so great, I love paper rex for doing a yoru-breach combination. I swear, high elo and even professional play can be so boring when people pick the same duelists all the time, or the same agent comps for a map every time. besides, yoru is one of the most entertaining and creative duelists I've seen--I'm glad he's getting the spotlight here.
the new yoru remind us to old astra when you can play fake smoke with lower cooldown. I think everytime there is agent with ability to fake can make this kind of gameplay like they have one extra ability
I’ve patiently waited for this vid ! Love your content man
This series was the first time I've ever watched pro play live, largely due to to these analysis from you. There was a special new kind of appeal is seeing a video of a game I've already watched myself and having things that flew over my head pointed out.
i'm starting to become a forsaken's fan and PRX fan generally , they are so entertaining to watch man , forsaken and jinggg are mad lads !
Who knew the best way to play Yoru was using him as a master of deception like Riot intended
the master of disinformation. The two teleport, full visibility and being able to use abilities while in ult and rework clone made him a viable pick now instead of being a troll pick
Yoru is too scary to play against if the player knows how to use it, just like Breach.
Or any character almost
But yeah especially yoru
Cypher as well, im maining (d3/immo) not to sound douchey but u can get an enermous amount of space on the map for free with him, the cam traps, one ways are deadly when u know the rigjt timing to use or if u should peek it, i won countless post plants just by placing my camera in the sightline of the spike and playing of off it, it buys so much time, dont get me even started on how creative u can get with the cages, one ways, possibility for agressive plays on attack or still being able to cut off sightlines for the team after the controller dies... moderate value if ur average with him but if u master him he's deadly
@@jmiod2819 you sure too scary to play against, maybe I'll save my gun instead of fighting u
7:40 the way he shoots the body is hilarious 😆
u know, maybe he's trynna destroy chamber's trap
5:58 one thing i think worth mentioning that was definitely a lucky timing for forsaken was when omen ulted to heaven right as forsaken came out of the tp (so he didn't hear the door) just cool how it all came together for them. so happy to finally be seeing good yoru tech in the pro scene
great timing
I think he must have heard omen using ult voice line and knew that 2 are on a and omen was probably b so he was safe to get out
Prx is the same as the coach says 'In the end, the entire team is bunch of clowns'🤡 - Prx Alecks (coach)
but their mind games is on another level
In order to confuse your enemies, one must confuse himself.
Imagine u play medoo role as a viper, and u use ur ult and it will be ur own grave, like WTF you suppose to do?. "Don't get in my way" my ass 🗿..
WAITED THE WHOLE DAY FOR THIS BROSKI VIDEO.. UTTER CHAOS!!!!
As a Yoru main since the day he dropped (and the agent I have maximum impact with), forsaken is my new favorite pro 😂
Ikr
Good analysis keep up! Also they gave him the spike and he used his ult cos it was the last round
Having fun running around with the ultimate in last moment 😘
Hiko must be punching the air right now.
this masters is such a beautiful cinderella story, all the big favourites out, zeta, the absolute underdog knocking out drx pretty convincingly, and im so hyped for all the matches still to come. Loud probably takes it tho
Waited the whole day for this after the game lets goooo
Both Jing and Forsaken were called "Thep Songkram" or "God of War" (Thep,เทพ = god and Songkram,สงคราม = war) by Thai streamers when they match on rank games.
I cant believe i just watched 11 minutes of someone breaking down Valorant pro gameplay.
Amazing video
May i make a request? I love your commentary and your pacing on the gameplay is well done, but is there a way you can finish the clip of when they win the round rather than just take your word for it? My brain wants too see the round finish out somehow, even if you add a small edit. Please and thank you!
I agree; I think it helps content in the brain better when you see that.
This game was so funny avova avoided the raze ult like 4 times and jinggg didn't get a single kill at all I think
I firmly believe that Avova is an escape artist judging by how many times he had narrowly missed getting bombarded by Jing's ult. Shit was so funny everytime lmao
@@anasazhari4498 true
roza ult now become jinggg ult
also in a round he sends tp to b cubby from long ult's and tp to cover more area in same time
this match was one big yoru highlight
truly by far most entertaining team
Enjoyed the analysis on this match!
Fade ult deafen is gonna allow Yoru to be wildly free with his drifting tps and flank ults . Its has scary potential
a teleporter going into a teleporter always gets a chuckle out of me
this got recommended after g2 literally destroyed prx in master shanghai
i love this channel so much and it is a damn travesty that you only have 10k subs, you deserve so much more.
Man such a good channel with consistent upload
Prx is definitely the most fun team to watch in vct rn
Breach, Yoru, Skye : RGB flash
They prolly haven't thought of any of this. 💀
Bro that's a really good analysis. Enjoyed watching it. Keep it up 🙌
at 7:20 I feel like f0rsakeN used his clone more like a meatshield and less than something to purposely get the other team to shoot, hence when he slipped behind it Meddo had already tracked in the front one as him, and might've just not reacted fast enough in the stressful situation.
Either way it definitely worked and was overall pretty nifty.
Ive been maining Yoru for a couple weeks now, and Ive gotten the hang of him. And omg Ive been waiting for someone to play him in pro play. Not many have after his rework so I was genuinely curious to see if he could actually hold up in pro play and I am so happy to see that he can.
Is there only ONE team remaining that entered the tournament with a bye in groups? Insane how the pace of the tournament was set in groups and those teams with bye rounds have failed to adjust.
No there’s Loud and Paper Rex who got a bye!
How did you forget Loud lmao
@@soham4741 I'm actually enjoying PRX so much that I thought they came out of groups. They're playing so fast one match feels like two lmao
What does bye mean
@@mq9281 Another way of saying a team had a guaranteed spot later in the bracket / tournament, avoiding those early elimination rounds. Here for VCT - there were teams like Loud who had earned their spot from a prior play-in or qualifier, so they had a "bye" through the group stage..
Yoru is a overpowered character that has a lot of potential but a high skill cap and difficult to learn
I dont think overpowered is the right word at all
@@zechariahcaraballo8765 no way near to overpowered..
Yoru is overpowered before riot nerf him again
@@zechariahcaraballo8765 only o[ if you know how to use him so def not for lower elo but for pro maybe
Not overpowered but definitely a strong one and a unique one too. Having a good yoru really messes up the standard and usual plays, like you wouldn't expect a guy to be on that spot, or an explosive entry instantly at the back
Well well well, what has the algorithm gifted me today
😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Yoru has always been op on bind. Not only before the update but also after the update
I need a PRX vs DRX analysis from you. You have a really good understanding of the game and would love to hear your insights.
finally your vid is there :D keep it up mate!
Yoru ult + Sova ult is an amazing combo, believe me
About your comment about Forsaken's ult at the end (10:36): did he have a flash in hand to use?
Yeah he did have it in hand and did use it but only after his teammate died. I mean he still won the round but maybe it would’ve been better to flash, his teammate swings and he gets out of the ult at the same time and then they can’t lose!
The round he pushed with his clone he was using it as cover. Most people when they shoot the clone will turn it as muscle memory so it is surprisingly strong when it works. As with all yoru shenanigans though, it's very reliant on the enemy who has to miss and react against their will. Funny to see that he played yoru no different from how I would aside from team coordination and not missing. Just goes to show how strong yoru can be if used at the pro level
8:08 which skin is this?
Recon
That NA trash talk real quiet from EMEA now.
You can hear a pin drop
The guy with a chamber meme face pfp isnt here yet
Welp I'm gonna become a Yoru main
they change a bit of their gameplay, compared to how they fought against drx. still aggressive, but not as much and more composed.
bind with no Jett and Yoru Breach combo. This team doesnt follow TEXTBOOK, they really play in SEA server toomuch!
I like how you analyzed it
The yoru fake switch in showers is INSANE. Viper definitely got out played there.
cant believe i played with jingg and forsaken a couple of days ago
Two significantly underrated characters shredding up VCT… interesting
this is pro scene at its finest because they created a new meta here
i was no idea what is happening when I watch this live, but then I watch your video I was like,, ohh that is what they're thinking so this analyze makes me better at skill combo haha
i feel like the yoru tp sound is same as bat signal like on the batman movie bruh, “Fear is a tool. When that yoru tp hits the map, it's not just a call. It's a warning.” lol
Paper rex is one of those teams that have a set up in every possible play. They do not have the craziest mid gameplay but hell they do have aim and synergy. They look like the old Fnatic CSGO dynasty.
Viper: ult
PRX: Big mistake there
i wonder what prx's comms are like
poor Meddo got bullied hard by Forsaken and Benkai
well its an analyst in the making
Can someone link the match? Yoru is SO underrated. With proper team play and setup, he is fucking unstoppable.
rgb flash meta from apac
They are gamers
I've never played initiators before, but yoru, specially on bind makes me want to try :)
yoru is a duelist.
bro when i read forsaken i got some heavy word.exe flashbacks lol
really thought the guard was a solid team but after paper rex 2-0d them, i’m starting to become a fan of them
great analysis. his yoru is insane
This guy deserves more subs
we call it RGB flash buff for PRX
breach 🔴
skye 🟢
yoru 🔵
Isnt breachs flash orange? It would be rgb if phoenix skye yoru
Nice video!
its call RGB flash META
Red flash Breach
Green flash Skye
Blue flash Yoru
Thank u for ur content
did g2 not see DRX vs PRX
Yoru is like Neon and paired w/ Breach imo.
Can you do a Zeta video bc theyre top 4 now
Yes either tomorrow or the day after will be a video about them against DRX
@@ThinkingMansValorant 🦁👍
And people still say Yoru is the weakest agent in the game. smh
now i got it , f0rsaken interview said prx play csgo in valorant that is team philosophy.
PRX have RGB flash btw
Good analysing
the key is fun to watch..
need to achieve that first, lmao...
The is different forsaken?
* nobody plays a yoru in vct *
That's the exact reason why you should play yoru. So that enemy expects / knows to counter cus many don't pick yoruu
You would be a great teacher!
EU and NA fighting each other on who's the best but they always forget that there will always be an asian better than you lmao
Overused. NA still won the Finals.
NA 1 major, APAC 0 major.
Lemme tell u one thing it was a team effort they destroyed g2 like people destroy in rank
He didn't have flash
The yoru gate crash is clearly confuse them.. bcs they dnt even know its a fake or real one,,
If u say this so fkin cracked then u guys shd watch him use yoru on haven before get reworked
He just used word.exe
now prx had shown how do you use yoru in pro play, i can't wait for other teams to use it and even make it further. this is how meta is created. btw prx have 3 different colored flash on their comp lmao, g2 fucked.