I actually think Fnatic prepared quite well against them. But cuz they prepare a lot for Forsaken, Jingg just becomes the game changer as everyone focus is on yoru
I hope that TMV will also talk about the impact of the other players are making if Forsaken and Jinggg over extends or dies early. It is very very difficult to be that aggressive and still consistently win rounds if your team members do not support you. Mindfreak Benkai and Davai were always there behind Jingg and Forsaken if they failed to reach peak smeag.
that ascent play where dawai was giving blind to b main from mid jingg just goes double satchel and kill them was the best thing I saw and also the last round where jinng double satchel in ascent map and got kills in smoke due to fade reveal thats is what I call is proper strats..and team work.
@@ManjotSingh-yc1te another thing to take note of in those skirmishes is the fact that they got those reads correctly. those plays would not happen if they did not study their opponents, and PRX did that work. props to PRX, hope they win it all
the early 2021 paper rex actually had this problem where forsaken is doing forsaken things but he wasnt getting much support from his teammates. good to see that the team in general has imrpoved a lot
5:18 when yoru ults u can partially see him going somewhere for the first few seconds, forsaken is really smart and he goes into the enemies coming from shower to make them think that he is going behind them. but then he goes towards the people in main. really really smart play by him, i think a lot of people missed this.
WOW that could be the case! U see, not a lot of streamers make an insightful analysis of prx matches or all of vct teams in general, and one of them is TVM. I'm glad TVM covers many of prx thoughtful team play and the fact that TVM missed this one detail from f0rsaken, makes you wonder how many more untold genius execution made by prx. Prx is dead quite too about their start. Edit: *strat. Edit2: goodluck reading that Edit3: *TMV
but they'd know if yorus close to them or not based on the blue glow u have around you raze would know that yoru didn't commit to showers bc the blue glow would leave her and the rest of the team would know yorus there bc they can see the blue glow
14:11 I actually think forsaken missed his tp lineup which cost them the round. After watching this yesterday, i felt like going back to that prx vs g2. he used that lineup on that match which actually goes much closes to the spawn than it did in this one. it goes to the left corner in that tunnel. if he had done this correctly, he would have to travel less in his ult and would not need to stop in ct because he was also ready to flash but didn't cz the yoru ult was not enough to flash, let the stun come in, not get caught by it and still open his ult in front of the person on backsite. because his ult's time was up now he is just stuck in the spawn with people both in front of him and behind. (maybe it wouldn't've mattered, i dont know. I am assuming that forsaken would have enough time in his ult)
He did. He said so on Lothar’s stream. I think they did not prepare bind because they were sure fnc would ban it. He also missed a flash lineup the time jinggg dies pushing showers.
@@raunakcaptaingalaxy in the post interview mindfreak said they were sure they would pick bind because thats fncs best map and prx was prepared for it because of that but they were surprised when they didnt pick it so prx chose bind
i can't believe prx played this well when davai is having fever a day before this match and it shows in the post match interview how sick he is,then coach alecks who puke every half or so and also jingg who lost his voice in that game which means pretty much 0 comms lmao fucking insane!
Prx manage to harness yoru potential because they have literally perfect team to do it, because even you know and aware also prepare for yoru movement but their also jingg that jumping around to break it so enemy cant really come with solutions if focus on yoru, jigg will Hunting you if you focus on jingg, yoru will out manuver you
If you observe at 10.24 where brimstone's smoke is placed at a lower level, it's because mindfreak and forsaken coordinated this play. Normally the brim smokes go on the high ground to prevent a peek from on top of the boxes but in this case he smoked the low ground. The danger of this yoru play if you smoke the high ground is that the attackers pushing into lamps can turn around to spot this corner of A short between the smoke gap, leaving yoru exposed. But this yoru-flank smoke covers that angle and leaves yoru in an isolated 1v1 against the attacker peeking from the boxes, so forsaken gets a safe 1v1 against Enzo because mindfreak changed his smoke position. And by smoking the low ground, you increase the chances of your enemy peeking from the high ground box which PRX is aware of. Notice how forsaken's crosshair placement before he casts his TP is slightly elevated so the duel is even easier for forsaken to win.
Absolute banger of the 2 games where Fnc actually manage to get a few rounds back from Prx's aggressive plays and ending the 2 maps in double digits. Looking forward to Prx vs Optic, gonna be another banger. With no DRX matching against Prx (and Prx winning) we have these matchups that I really wanted to see.
@@rayinailham9842 the reason DRX have PRXs number in most scenarios is their knowledge of PRX plays and ability to work as a team, whilst being honest NA Valorant is probably the worst technical Valorant in the world.. for the most part NA is just trades and aim duels, against a team like PRX who plays CT as a T team and push out of sites with 3+ players it will never work.. I honestly think if PRX play Optic it'll be 2-0 and potentially 13-0s
12:10 the thing with jing running +W foor the kills and even dying is oonly for orb purpose because they rely on raze ult pretty often, and with that play hes like 2 off from ulti
This is such an insane match. I loved seeing these 2 teams face each other. the ascent game was also really interesting because the sage walls that fnatic did reallly caused prx a lot of problems and there were many instances of them outwitting each other every round
PRX is the best in the world on bind with Yoru. Such a hype match once again. PRX is looking stronger than ever and I definitely have my money on them winning the whole tournament. It would be unforgettable to see them win.
Hahaha, I love the disclaimer in the title. Their playstyle is so unique that it really only works well for them and not for anybody else. Trying to emulate it or worse, trying to use it against them usually ends badly for the other team.
@@syn6087 team secret is like the second best APAC team, can't wait to see them in LCQ cuz i love their snowball strategy, they win one round and the next second they won the whole game lol
okay i am a fnatic fan. But holy shit did forsaken tear them up with yoru on bind. i love that after the yoru buffs pro players are actually finding amazing ways to use him. some of these yoru plays seem ingenious bu forsaken. Bravo PRX even though i forever want fnatic to win.
When I saw the map vetos I already knew the yoru vid was coming even if I wanted to see the ascent analysis with all those set play they have for jinggg
W key gaming is very common in APAC. its a very obnoxious type of gameplay and quite tilting against the receiving end. If we are to describe each team's gameplay by shapes, most would be in a form of basic shapes like circle, triangle, and square. Whereas, PRX is like an amoeba with Yoru on bind.
13:10 so f0rsaken couldve actually tp'd deeper. ua-cam.com/video/p8KIccxXU7M/v-deo.html watch this at 1:23 and you can see it goes to the corner of the vents. However, even if he did, the bigger issue is that he didnt have info on where the defenders are. Boaster was just in the better position to follow him. In f0rsakens match against Team secret, he actually tp'd when the defenders were way too far away to chase him. ua-cam.com/video/ffm6aFqkoKw/v-deo.html @6:17 for proof.
One thing for prx that isn't looking great is the COVID outbreak, Alex said that he had to leave his coaching room to go puke a couple times, hopefully none of the players have as bad symptoms
I want to see some stats on PRX game time analysis.. I mean attack vs defense side differently, but like % of rounds they win within 20 secs into the round. It might be insane stats and bring out the time element plays for the teams against them. Maybe you can explore the idea further if you ever end up reading this comment.
It's just my opinion though and i got this idea when watching your stream but i personally think that fnc read forsakens yoru plays in attack with respect to their brim smokes that's why in some round of attacks forsaken was shut down. Just my opinion though i guess that's the only way to read the yoru outplay, unless ofc he has his ult!
I think Fnatic is almost succeed to surpress Yoru movement in Bind but they forget not only yoru in PRX and that is also Raze on jing that always save PRX few round from Fnatic sorry my bad english
The only thing that i think teams can abuse when playing againts PRX is that they int too much they literally overheat even if they have the advantage they sometime throw the round only the last round they played postplant well i guess im bowing to the APAC overlords
#Thinking Man's Valorant please cover Optic vs DRX, such high level of valorant was played on both sides (for optic, the last 2 maps, and drz the first and last ones)
Fnatic just prepared for shut down the yoru. And also the another apac team, they always focused about the yoru. Thats why prx looks so good at this map
I actually enjoy your videos .They are quite informative .But this one feels quite generic ..Can you go a little deeper and make another video on this match??? love ya
@@RK9. Oh no, mindfreak has the biggest brain on the team, Benkai is the only one that's falling behind a little bit, and of course Jing and Forsaken is the hard carry, but anyways... My point have been made
I actually think Fnatic prepared quite well against them. But cuz they prepare a lot for Forsaken, Jingg just becomes the game changer as everyone focus is on yoru
Yeah, they shut down his Yoru plays quite a few time, but in focusing on forsaken, Jinggg freely rampages
Fnc definitely prepared well for prx, but PRX adapt quickly
Mindfreak going dummy stupid helped as well lol
@@coledorillo6685 that ascent mindfreak is the game changer.
@@maestroplay6563 yeahh...they shutdown yoru in second half, but they left Jing show up
I hope that TMV will also talk about the impact of the other players are making if Forsaken and Jinggg over extends or dies early. It is very very difficult to be that aggressive and still consistently win rounds if your team members do not support you. Mindfreak Benkai and Davai were always there behind Jingg and Forsaken if they failed to reach peak smeag.
this is true. good teammates made all the unorthodox play possible
that ascent play where dawai was giving blind to b main from mid jingg just goes double satchel and kill them was the best thing I saw and also the last round where jinng double satchel in ascent map and got kills in smoke due to fade reveal thats is what I call is proper strats..and team work.
@@ManjotSingh-yc1te another thing to take note of in those skirmishes is the fact that they got those reads correctly. those plays would not happen if they did not study their opponents, and PRX did that work. props to PRX, hope they win it all
the early 2021 paper rex actually had this problem where forsaken is doing forsaken things but he wasnt getting much support from his teammates. good to see that the team in general has imrpoved a lot
mindfreak with the 46% clutch success, benkai davai and mindfreak all also have the lowest first deaths in the entire vct
5:18 when yoru ults u can partially see him going somewhere for the first few seconds, forsaken is really smart and he goes into the enemies coming from shower to make them think that he is going behind them. but then he goes towards the people in main. really really smart play by him, i think a lot of people missed this.
damn thats such a small yet impactful detail
WOW that could be the case! U see, not a lot of streamers make an insightful analysis of prx matches or all of vct teams in general, and one of them is TVM. I'm glad TVM covers many of prx thoughtful team play and the fact that TVM missed this one detail from f0rsaken, makes you wonder how many more untold genius execution made by prx. Prx is dead quite too about their start.
Edit: *strat.
Edit2: goodluck reading that
Edit3: *TMV
but they'd know if yorus close to them or not based on the blue glow u have around you raze would know that yoru didn't commit to showers bc the blue glow would leave her and the rest of the team would know yorus there bc they can see the blue glow
bc the people in main wouldn't have a blue glow
@@isaacchris81 the blue glow appears when yoru has line of sight with you it’s not how close he is
14:11 I actually think forsaken missed his tp lineup which cost them the round. After watching this yesterday, i felt like going back to that prx vs g2. he used that lineup on that match which actually goes much closes to the spawn than it did in this one. it goes to the left corner in that tunnel. if he had done this correctly, he would have to travel less in his ult and would not need to stop in ct because he was also ready to flash but didn't cz the yoru ult was not enough to flash, let the stun come in, not get caught by it and still open his ult in front of the person on backsite. because his ult's time was up now he is just stuck in the spawn with people both in front of him and behind. (maybe it wouldn't've mattered, i dont know. I am assuming that forsaken would have enough time in his ult)
Nice analysis
He did. He said so on Lothar’s stream. I think they did not prepare bind because they were sure fnc would ban it. He also missed a flash lineup the time jinggg dies pushing showers.
@@raunakcaptaingalaxy in the post interview mindfreak said they were sure they would pick bind because thats fncs best map and prx was prepared for it because of that but they were surprised when they didnt pick it so prx chose bind
@@notus299 Nope. He said they prepared Breeze because it’s fnc’s perma ban, and were surprised that bind was let through
@@raunakcaptaingalaxy ah ok my bad thanks though
Been saying PRX is the ultimate dark horse for a while. Their play style always disrupts the enemy teams gameplan.
He did state in his Introducing series of PRX that they are a Dark Horse winner, but yeah to look this good without dropping a map so far is crazy
i can't believe prx played this well when davai is having fever a day before this match and it shows in the post match interview how sick he is,then coach alecks who puke every half or so and also jingg who lost his voice in that game which means pretty much 0 comms lmao fucking insane!
Watching this live on TMV's stream was glorious
Prx manage to harness yoru potential because they have literally perfect team to do it, because even you know and aware also prepare for yoru movement but their also jingg that jumping around to break it so enemy cant really come with solutions if focus on yoru, jigg will Hunting you if you focus on jingg, yoru will out manuver you
PRX is so funny, crazy comps or not, they are insane
A good offense is a good defense
-Paper Rex
If you observe at 10.24 where brimstone's smoke is placed at a lower level, it's because mindfreak and forsaken coordinated this play.
Normally the brim smokes go on the high ground to prevent a peek from on top of the boxes but in this case he smoked the low ground. The danger of this yoru play if you smoke the high ground is that the attackers pushing into lamps can turn around to spot this corner of A short between the smoke gap, leaving yoru exposed. But this yoru-flank smoke covers that angle and leaves yoru in an isolated 1v1 against the attacker peeking from the boxes, so forsaken gets a safe 1v1 against Enzo because mindfreak changed his smoke position.
And by smoking the low ground, you increase the chances of your enemy peeking from the high ground box which PRX is aware of. Notice how forsaken's crosshair placement before he casts his TP is slightly elevated so the duel is even easier for forsaken to win.
Absolute banger of the 2 games where Fnc actually manage to get a few rounds back from Prx's aggressive plays and ending the 2 maps in double digits. Looking forward to Prx vs Optic, gonna be another banger. With no DRX matching against Prx (and Prx winning) we have these matchups that I really wanted to see.
prx will slap optic
@@swapbriarASMR but they have never beat DRX even in Scrim, so if optic can learn how DRX and Zeta defeat PRX it would be hard for PRX
@@swapbriarASMR i doubt that
Paper rex will struggle with optic since optic is had many ideas to counter him without some mistake
@@rayinailham9842 the reason DRX have PRXs number in most scenarios is their knowledge of PRX plays and ability to work as a team, whilst being honest NA Valorant is probably the worst technical Valorant in the world.. for the most part NA is just trades and aim duels, against a team like PRX who plays CT as a T team and push out of sites with 3+ players it will never work.. I honestly think if PRX play Optic it'll be 2-0 and potentially 13-0s
@@farrel9356 slapped
I’ve Ben waiting for this video :)) I think this is the best series so far even over leviathan xset
12:10 the thing with jing running +W foor the kills and even dying is oonly for orb purpose because they rely on raze ult pretty often, and with that play hes like 2 off from ulti
Derke had a pretty slow start these games but Alfa and Boaster did really well
This is such an insane match. I loved seeing these 2 teams face each other. the ascent game was also really interesting because the sage walls that fnatic did reallly caused prx a lot of problems and there were many instances of them outwitting each other every round
PRX is the best in the world on bind with Yoru. Such a hype match once again. PRX is looking stronger than ever and I definitely have my money on them winning the whole tournament. It would be unforgettable to see them win.
Yep. I also think that optic gaming can't beat prx. Let's see
@@MukeshRajasekar would love to see Prx in grand finals
Hahaha, I love the disclaimer in the title. Their playstyle is so unique that it really only works well for them and not for anybody else. Trying to emulate it or worse, trying to use it against them usually ends badly for the other team.
Let’s not forget you predicted PRX would lose against FNC
FNC is his fav team
He predicted prx would lose to guild 💀
I feel like PRX is the only team capable of using Yoru.
Team Secret can, but PRX is way too far from them
Only on bind though
@@syn6087 team secret is like the second best APAC team, can't wait to see them in LCQ cuz i love their snowball strategy, they win one round and the next second they won the whole game lol
@@rycegabrielmajor9847 No I think Xerxia is the second best, because they can actually counter-strat PRX
@@syn6087 Xerxia and TS are pretty close.
okay i am a fnatic fan. But holy shit did forsaken tear them up with yoru on bind. i love that after the yoru buffs pro players are actually finding amazing ways to use him. some of these yoru plays seem ingenious bu forsaken. Bravo PRX even though i forever want fnatic to win.
I feel like the finals is gonna have drx, fnc, optic and prx it feels like anyone can take this tournament
think so
rip drx
10:05 the dog 😭😂
When I saw the map vetos I already knew the yoru vid was coming even if I wanted to see the ascent analysis with all those set play they have for jinggg
Why dont they break the yoru tp while its travelling through a site? 13:11
Raze isn’t close enough to see it and he’s not about to leave both short and bathroom open just to go chase it
nowadays it is hard to see and hear it .. if you are not very close enough.. it is a buff
PaperRex: *W Key*
TMV: "No one else plays like that"
Irons: "Amateurs"
When jing got a 3k with a stinger against fnatic buy round I went crazy, that’s like getting a 6k
W key gaming is very common in APAC. its a very obnoxious type of gameplay and quite tilting against the receiving end. If we are to describe each team's gameplay by shapes, most would be in a form of basic shapes like circle, triangle, and square. Whereas, PRX is like an amoeba with Yoru on bind.
Do you think fpx can win against prx given their agenda pf changing their roles and agent lineups regularly?
13:10 so f0rsaken couldve actually tp'd deeper. ua-cam.com/video/p8KIccxXU7M/v-deo.html watch this at 1:23 and you can see it goes to the corner of the vents. However, even if he did, the bigger issue is that he didnt have info on where the defenders are. Boaster was just in the better position to follow him. In f0rsakens match against Team secret, he actually tp'd when the defenders were way too far away to chase him. ua-cam.com/video/ffm6aFqkoKw/v-deo.html @6:17 for proof.
One thing for prx that isn't looking great is the COVID outbreak, Alex said that he had to leave his coaching room to go puke a couple times, hopefully none of the players have as bad symptoms
I want to see some stats on PRX game time analysis.. I mean attack vs defense side differently, but like % of rounds they win within 20 secs into the round. It might be insane stats and bring out the time element plays for the teams against them. Maybe you can explore the idea further if you ever end up reading this comment.
every yoru main I know loves playing on bind. It makes sense that forsaken can extract so much out of it.
The good thing about prx is that when they shut down forsaken, jinnggg shuts them down and vice versa
Good to see Prx represent Apac
Waiting for you upload after watching your stream
U have prep for jingg and forsaken based plays of prx if u prep one the other one will rampage lets see what optic does
If ur ange1 u should take notes right now no cap
Can you play do ascent as well. They had some crazy plays for jing
u dont wanna risk bind vs PRX just respect ban it
Paper Rex? no it is PAPA REX NOW
It's just my opinion though and i got this idea when watching your stream but i personally think that fnc read forsakens yoru plays in attack with respect to their brim smokes that's why in some round of attacks forsaken was shut down. Just my opinion though i guess that's the only way to read the yoru outplay, unless ofc he has his ult!
do you think Fnatic have a better chance if they play paper rex again now they have played them?
why does the video you're watching say lower bracket, this was upper bracket semifinals lol
forget tips and tricks vids. just watch this great channel
what does he use for drawing on his screen?
Shoutout to Thinking Man's Valorant 😁
R u TenZ or some shit lmao
@@syn6087 LOL
This match was insane
I think Fnatic is almost succeed to surpress Yoru movement in Bind but they forget not only yoru in PRX and that is also Raze on jing that always save PRX few round from Fnatic
sorry my bad english
solo q yoru bind is arguably his strongest suit tho
How is breach allowed to win on this map. I don't get it also lost 10€ D:
Always have to make sure to write (If you're PRX) cus only Forsaken can pull it off
The only thing that i think teams can abuse when playing againts PRX is that they int too much they literally overheat even if they have the advantage they sometime throw the round only the last round they played postplant well i guess im bowing to the APAC overlords
#Thinking Man's Valorant please cover Optic vs DRX, such high level of valorant was played on both sides (for optic, the last 2 maps, and drz the first and last ones)
And 3 of their players including the coach is sick with covid. Imagine
no subtitle? keksad
sea server is different than na and eu server and also the hardest
Fnatic just prepared for shut down the yoru. And also the another apac team, they always focused about the yoru. Thats why prx looks so good at this map
other than paper rex, only emea and na teams remain...
APAC WINNING
F0rsaken yoru on Bind Is UNBEATABLE*
Only drx can counter
Paper rex cool beans
PRX is my 2nd favorite team, primarily because jing is a goofy goober
WHERE IS OUR BENKAI THUMBNAIL!!!!!
"they lost to this"
early gang
Yoru Gaming
Finallyyyy
apac meta and they quite aint ready for it
WP to fnatic, they played amazingly against prx but alas they couldnt stop the unstoppable
I actually enjoy your videos .They are quite informative .But this one feels quite generic ..Can you go a little deeper and make another video on this match??? love ya
aged like milk
DRX is PRX Bind counter
DRX is just every team's counter
@@syn6087 except optic apparently
@@swapbriarASMR Just for this match I guess
Well to summarize the masters right now
PRX > EU counter
DRX > PRX counter
Optc > DRX counter
EU > NA counter
@@Impotet PRX = NA/EU counter
DRX = PRX
EU > NA
I enjoy watching the matches on your stream a lot but I would really love for you to get some better internet connexion if possible
Rooting for PRX no kyap
bruh i remember watching it live in tariks watch party and everyone was just going crazy after yoru plays
Didn't age well
love the vif but pls you are stretching to much man this video should be 11-13 minutes not 20 pls pls dont stretch so much
ITS PAPER TREX!!!
Its Paper Rex
Stoopid
no, it's paper rex
JING FORSAKEN SIgma GigaChad with Hold W for life style!!
Optic is going to show PRX levels soon
Depends on which Optic we're gonna get. Is it lower bracket optic or troll optic?
Unlucky, they won't, it's literally just Marved, Yay and friends
@@syn6087 Just like PRX then, foreskin, jing and friends
@@RK9. Oh no, mindfreak has the biggest brain on the team, Benkai is the only one that's falling behind a little bit, and of course Jing and Forsaken is the hard carry, but anyways... My point have been made
@@syn6087 yeah and everyone on Optic are burgers besides marved and yay ok sure dude
:)