BenQ Palette Master Element Version 1.3.15 is the best and most stable current release version to use. Best settings & guide here ua-cam.com/video/eCOPETFhZlE/v-deo.html
You have the most clear, well/explained tutorials and the most explanatory videos I have seen on the field. Just by watching few videos of yours it already cleared my mind from questions I've been carrying for quite some time on printing workflow, monitor calibration and monitor/paper calibrators. I also think I am now understanding the potential of my BenQ monitor. Thank you for sharing your expertise in such a nice, straightforward way. I am spreading the word about your channel.
Since finding your videos and following your recommendations religiously I've really come to appreciate what incredible devices the BENQ monitors are. Now, color managed printing is a breeze rather than a nightmare. Thank you, Art, for your expertise and your efforts to share it on UA-cam.
Big thanks for making this video and including links to the previous versions of Palette Master.. I just installed the default program on a windows 10 machine with an i1 Display Pro, and then immediately "upgraded" at the prompt to version 1.3.12. That was a major mistake... All I got when trying to calibrate was windows 10 crashes with a white screen, and I could not recover the system without a hard reboot. This continued till I found your link and installed 1.3.11.. Now life is good!
So good, clear and clarifying! I've always used Eizo and I'm just about to buy my first BenQ and this video really help to understand the hardware calibration terms and software on the Benwq...esssentially same principle and settings of Eizo colour navigator software thanks for explaining it so well!
Thank you @ArtisRight the version 1.3.14 worked well for my hdmi only enabled hp 15" ayxxx wins 10 laptop. I used v4, large and 16bit. With spyderX which I had prior to purchasing the SW 240. The average delta E is 0.77 and max delta E is 1.55. The colour is so phenomenal, simply wow. On Photoshop, videos players and youtube. I'm now redoing all my old edits.
The former because of Mac and PC and some bugs and not because of the device. I would check out my latest PME 1.3.16 video for best setting recommendations but what you said is correct.
My SW2700PT MFG January 2020 and using PME 1.3.10 👍 No issues. Just had problems with Nvidia display control setup, so i just reset it and factory reset monitor and all good. Another great video Sir 👌💖
Your videos are fantastic, congratulations!! Thanks to your video I have been able to calibrate my Benq SW271C monitor, but I have a question: In my MACSTUDIO > SYSTEM SETTINGS > SCREENS > COLOR PROFILE > WHAT PROFILE SHOULD I ASSIGN???? Thank you very much and greetings!
Before nothing, leave as is. after calibration chose the profile that PME create. Also since you have the SW271C, it is compatible with BenQ new software Palette Master Ultimate, I would recommend using that instead.
This tutorial was very, very helpful. Thank you for taking the time to explain set up and calibration in detail. I have one question. I am connecting my 2015 macbook air to my benq sw270c with a displayport cable. I also connected the usb cable for hardware calibration. After calibration, can I only use the displayport cable and leave the usb cable disconnected if I'm not use the monitor's SD card reader or usb inputs? Is there any benefit to leaving the usb cable connected after calibration other than gaining access to the monitor's SD card reader and usb input? Thank you!!
Watch this for the latest Palette Master Element 1.3.14 update & best settings. This video contain links to download previous PME versions as well ua-cam.com/video/L91IFdTFaxE/v-deo.html
Hi Art - you videos are amazing! Just curious, does BenQ make a monitor for photographers that print. By this I mean a color accurate monitor with 100pp1 and 0.25 pixel pitch? I am struggle to find a monitor with these specs. This is need to printing large in order to accurately see the critical sharpening, which as you know is really important.
"does BenQ make a monitor for photographers that print." Yes the SW series " By this I mean a color accurate monitor with 100pp1 and 0.25 pixel pitch?" This is not a normal or a listed specification or criteria that most would searcher for. "I am struggle to find a monitor with these specs. This is need to printing large in order to accurately see the critical sharpening, which as you know is really important." It may not exist. Plus there are translational changes with screen to print, sharpening is critical but it all depends on the creative.
For BenQ SW series use either Palette Master Element or Palette Master Ultimate depending on compatibility. If your mode is compatible with the latter, use that. For any other display use i1Profilier or Calibrite Profilier software.
Hi Art, thank you for another great video! A question, If I calibrate my SW271 with my SpiderX calibrator and software will I have the same calibration features as with PME ? I.E will the calibration be saved into the monitor hardware etc. ?
Hi Art, thank you so much for your advice on the Palette master but what are you recommendations for a SW2700pt owner/latest FW now that benq has released the v12 of the app and the relative black point option has been removed. Also is it to be preferred over v10 or v11 for macOS/Catalina?
Thanks for your videos @ArtIsRight, they are all very informative. Is rec709 calibration still recommended for Da Vinci Resolve 17 as you explain @07:37? Or would "Panel Native" be more appropriate now that Resolve has its own Colour managed profile? Thank you
@ArtIsRight That might sound like a odd question, but is there a way to upload 3d luts directly to the SW-Series (sw270c in particular) created by 3rd party software (displaycal) or are the Benqs bond to their own software?
Hi Art, question I’ve had for awhile. If I set luminance to 80,100,120 on the 3 puck slots and that’s the only change made. Does the profile on the Mac need to be changed when I switch between those? Or can I keep one profile on the mac when this is the only change being made when switching the slots. Would love to hear your thoughts!
Great video. Few questions if I may. I’m using this monitor with the Mac Mini M1 with HDMI port and I have no functionality with the extra USB / headphone ports or SD Card reader. Can you tell me what I’m doing wrong?
You need to use the USB uplink cable in addition to the HDMI or if you are using some type of USB C adapter. If you use USB C to USB C you can forego this.
Hi Art! Thanks a lot for all the great videos, which I have been consuming voraciously since I got my SW 270C 2 weeks ago. I just got a SpyderX Elite 2 days ago and did my first ever hardware calibration using your older video on this topic. Everything went great and I am very happy with the results. Question is this - Can I create a Custom Color Mode using my hardware calibration results, which will then allow me to adjust the brightness of the monitor, to account for the ambient light at different times of the day. Because of course the Calibration slots do not allow for brightness adjustments. If yes, how do I create the Custom settings?
That is not possible, and when it comes to display the brightness of it should not change with the environment throughout the day, otherwise you are editing your work to a moving target. It is not advised at all. This is one of those feature that color engineers come up with to sell a product but have less practical use in real life. The issues is that many of these color engineers are great at what they do but they are not photographers per say, so these disconnect do happen.
@@ArtIsRight Right. I understand. I try to keep my photo editing very consistent, including ambient light. But if I am outside Photoshop, for instance, sometimes web pages are simply too bright. And I would like to be able to adjust my brightness in those situations. Is it not possible to take the info from the calibration report and use that to create an accurate Custom Color profile to use outside of Photoshop, one where I can control the brightness?
How bright are you calibrating your display to? I mean what you can do is switch to another color mode, i.e. Adobe RGB and then you can control the brightness that way, here's a hack how to set the luminance on those color modes ua-cam.com/video/TE5zsrOAH6M/v-deo.html And if anything you can just create another custom calibration for Web with a darker luminance setting.
@@ArtIsRight I did 3 calibrations, 80, 100 and 120 lumens. I will try using the darker one for web work, and if that does not work, I will create another one, even darker. That's a good workaround. Thanks!
I bought a SW270C to use with a new Dell XPS, what is the best software version to use? I downloaded the 1.3.17 version from the website but after watching several of your videos I learned that the latest is not always the best. Thanks for that info, I've always thought that the latest would be best, good to know that's not always the case. The new Dell will run Windows 11. I will use a SpyderX Pro to do the calibration.
Sir i have a request. Can you please make a video about working colour gamut settings in Adobe Photoshop and Lightroom. Which working gamut will reproduce better quality prints. I'm referring ProPhoto RGB and Adobe RGB in Adobe Working Colour gamut and how to print it and what difference does it have in colour and quality with hardware calibrated monitor and printer. Looking forward to see a video about it.
Great great video man!!! I am using monitor first time and I normally edited photos in laptop’s monitor. I got questions or asking help that’s (1) Do i have to calibrate monitor separately for website, general use or others used not for print? (2) or Can I use same I calibrated monitor for especially Print in website or general use? (3) Do I need change any settings in Lightroom Classic and Photoshop and Normally Lightroom and photoshop comes with Adobe RGB or Prophoto? If yes the how? (4) in Calibrate monitor my all raw photos look flat or very less contrast and less saturated? Do you have any Ideas? Do I separately calibrate Monitor for Print, website, social media, client delivery and other general use??? What is best Luminance value for website or general used if like calibrate monitor??? My picture looks less contrast and saturate means for me lifeless picture. Please if you help me it’s much a lot for me…
1) Do i have to calibrate monitor separately for website, general use or others used not for print? - You can but that gets complicated. No need to. I don't and have not done that at all in my over 2 decades doing this... (2) or Can I use same I calibrated monitor for especially Print in website or general use? - I recommend this, keep it simple! (3) Do I need change any settings in Lightroom Classic and Photoshop and Normally Lightroom and photoshop comes with Adobe RGB or Prophoto? If yes the how? LR and LRC it is what it is, the app manages it all. PS yes there is a way to change this. I should make a video on this but have not yet. The beginning of this video will show you 1 method that you can use ua-cam.com/video/Gu1nqEf8vzg/v-deo.html (4) in Calibrate monitor my all raw photos look flat or very less contrast and less saturated? Do you have any Ideas? - You are seeing honestly what your images look like and it is is telling you that you need to push your editing further. Do I separately calibrate Monitor for Print, website, social media, client delivery and other general use??? - like stated above... no What is best Luminance value for website or general used if like calibrate monitor??? - Shoot for print value which can varies between 80-120 nits based on environment and taste. My picture looks less contrast and saturate means for me lifeless picture. - it is not lifeless. You rather have it be lifeless now then the display not telling you what your image actually looks like and have it be lifeless else where. Push hard on editing make if lively here and it will be lively else where.
Hi Art, thank you for these helpful guides! This is my first time calibrating a monitor and i followed your guide exactly to calibrating my SW320. As this is my first time i just wanted to ask, post calibration is the monitor suppose to look less bright and vibrant? (i used luminance value 80). I did this as i want to use this profile to best match what i get on screen to paper print, and to my knowledge the luminance value is suppose to be low as paper is quite dull and not vibrant? The screen however now does not look as attractive as if i had left it on adobe RGB color profile. This is normal right?
Yes this is normal and this is part of the human calibration / readjustment. It also shows your the image as is so this is an opportunity to push image editing further.
Thanks for the video. I don't understand why the Panel Native RGB Primary is the best setting. If I edit photos in sRGB or Adobe RGB with Photoshop or Lightroom, shouldn't I choose the sRGB RGB Primary or the Adobe RGB RGB Primary? And what RGB Primary should I choose for Davinci Resolve right now?
Hi Art, I am calibrating the sw321c for Davinci Resolve. I am using the BenQ to preview via the "clean feed" mode. So the monitor is hooked up as a secondary screen. I am wondering which PC color mode I am to use: 0-255 or 16-235?
Thank you for sharing your knowledge; one question though: I am running 1.3.14 - and can in regards to Blackpoint can only choose between a default of 0.5 nits or absolute zero. Is the 0.5 nits equivalent to Relative? Keep up the good work. My BenQ is a SW271_2.
Hello Art. I loved the video and finally someone I believe. Excellent. I just signed up for a membership. I have a couple of important questions to ask you about my new macs. I am brand new to mac and always a windows user. I am a video editor and use Resolve and Premiere and also LRC and Photoshop. Just letting you know. Touch base soon.
Hi Art! Thanks so much for all the tutorials. I have the Spyder5Pro and BenQ SW2700PT monitor that I use with the new Mac Studio M1 Max and have been running some calibrations. I've managed to get the colors very close to perfect but I can't seem to get the black levels as good as the default Adobe RGB colour profile. With the default Adobe RGB profile the colours are not as perfect but in this mode I can make out the difference of black levels all the way to 0 and 1(I have the brightness set to 20). When calibrated though (using 0.5 blackpoint, also tried 0.3) I can only make out the difference between 4 and 5. 1 to 3 are all black. I also tried calibrating with 0.8 but that didn't help. Any advice on how I could achieve the desired black levels? And another question should one be able to make out the difference in the highlights all the way to 255? I can only differentiate 233 but not further. I'm using Palette Master V1.3.17 and my monitor MFG is Jan 2018. Calibrating settings: D65, Panel Native, 2.2. Thank you!
That a side effect of the Spyder 5, black tones does not scale well. 0.8 would be a step in the right direction but that it may not be for the specific device. As far as white point, ideally you should be able to discern 250 and higher, so 233 is rather low. Remember that Spyder 5 is an older device with inferior sensor. I would consider upgrading to Calibrite ColorChecker Display Pro.
@@ArtIsRight Ok, that is excellent info. Sorry I mistyped the white point, I meant 253. I will check for a new calibration device. Thank you for your reply! :)
@@ArtIsRight Hi art! I tried the i1Display Pro calibration device today to calibrate my display but unfortunately got the same results. The test validation is passed and I get great colors as with the Spider5 but the black level is again only visible to about 4 to 5. Exactly the same result as with the Spider5. I watched more of your videos and started thinking if the issue is with me connecting via HDMI? In one video you said the room ambient light shouldn't be an issue? Any other advice on how I could get better black levels? If not I'll just use the default Adobe RGB since that is pretty great already. Thank you!
Hello! Need help! :) I have a problem with calibration in Windows 10. My setup: monitor SW240 (it does not support HDR10, the HDMI port is only 1.4), I connect the HDMI 2.0 HDR wire, and graphic card is NVidia GTX 1050Ti. When calibrated via PME in SRGB, the monitor shows the correct colors, the interface in Windows is also displayed correctly, but if calibrated as Native Panel or AdobeRGB, the interface in Windows begins to be displayed incorrectly, namely, brighter than necessary, but at the same time in Adobe LR/PS and Chrome the colors are correct. On the MacBook M1 there are no problems with calibration in AdobeRGB, everything is displayed correctly. What could be the matter in Windows, why I can’t fully use AdobeRGB or NP calibration?
are you using icc profile v2 in windows? Also might just be best to stick with Adobe RGB. Can you use native display port to display port, if you can do that. HDMI contributing the issue as well
@@ArtIsRight Ok! I got it! I'll try to connect through display port and select the second profile. When I calibrate, I used 4. What is the difference between them by the way? Thanks for quick answer! All best.
lol nice technical video, i'm sys admin and hobby photographer and just bought as a second screen next to my gaming one a sw240 but damn I didn't know in what I was about to go trough. It's reallyh costly Benq send me to your vids and I never knew I needed to have a 300$ calibrator on top of the price of monitor. But really thank had to watch at least 6 vids to understand what was going on after I started working on photo and having different result on phone and my gaming screen. But thanks for the time you take to help us casual photographers.
I have gone through most all your videos and you are a sole user of the macbooks. I do not use a mac because my design work is with a built pc for photoshop. Now, I have use a top of the line nec for 10 years and have loved it. Calibrating has never, ever been an issue. So, it seems that you have all these different versions for different monitors and to date, after watching and listening to your videos, I still don't know what software to use for my ws240 that will arrive on Wednesday, tomorrow. There is a new version and then, there is this one. So what software shall I use for the sw 240 monitor? Please advise. If I can't get proper calibration, I must look at other monitors that will not be so hard to get answers . Next- I design from home, I prefer working with a built pc to work with an select my own hardware. I love mac's to play with and that's it. I can built my own pc's and I'm a woman. Now, you also talk about cable that are sent with monitor and I'm begining to realize that benQ only prefers laptop cables????? Many people use a pc. Question2_ What cable do I need to purchase? I have a display port I probable can use, I hope, but what about the calibrator. I have some usb3 and usb2 ports. No c ports because it's not a mac. Don't want to work on mac. Please advise because I would like to setup tomorrow when it arrives. Calibration is mandatory for my ad my work. I will probably have to call BenQ because I couldn't fnd answers to these two questions. Please advise. Thank you for all you hard work but I do believe you need to speak more about pc's. Not just laptops. Thank you again, Linda Weaver/
I do demo on PC as well but not as much, the process is the same really and this video also shows a demo on PC as well. Either way use Palette Master Element with SW240 Go to this link to download the latest version www.benq.com/en-us/support/downloads-faq/products/monitor/palette-master-element/software-driver.html Laptop and desktop cables are the same. On your PC depending on what display output you have I might try HDMI first and see if you can get it to pass calibration if yes then good, if not then choose to use display port (DP), you might have to buy a full size DP to DP. Eitherway, desktop or laptop, it does not matter. For the calibrator if you have one keep it, if you don't get Calibrite ColorChecker Display Pro or ColorChecker Display Plus these are great devices. And you can just plug those in the the regular USB. And the ports on the Mac and PC are technically the same and as well as Laptop vs Desktop, no need for distinction really, some minor variation but that is a given. You don't have to be on a Mac to get this done. Or call BenQ, they will tell you what I told you.
Hi Art, thanks for the great guide. I just got a Benq sw270c and still got one question. There are multiple colormodes e.g. Adobe RGB, sRGB and red.709; In what color mode should I put the monitor if I want to switch between sRGB and red.709? Should I Create two ICC profiles on one Color Mode? Or should I create a sRGB profile on the sRGB Color Mode and the rec709 on the rec709 color mode? Thanks for the help!
For the best result don't use the build in color mode, those are factory calibration and they are there for reference only. What you want to do is calibrate the SW270C with PME. Using this guide ua-cam.com/video/8rjRoIe0-mo/v-deo.html And if you have updated PME to 1.3.12 then this supplemental video will help too ua-cam.com/video/FavBEirURKw/v-deo.html
Thanks, it can be if this is the first few times you are trying to use the program. Lots of ground to cover, especially if you have not done it before. But once you get the hang of it, the information at the beginning is extremely valuable and provides a crucial foundation to the overall calibration process.
Hi Art. Question for you on MacOS. Once I complete the calibration do I need to go into the ColorSync utility and apply that LUT to the monitor? (SW270C)? I ask because I did a calibration and then a validation and the validation failed. On my PC, it worked perfectly. Thanks for your videos!
Intel or M1 Mac? For the most part you don't need go through that step. Validation fails is not usually related to profile but rather setting or software running on the computer. Please answers these questions completely and we’ll go from here. I know some of them you have provided info already, but please fill it out again so that I have everything in one place. And we can just focus on the Mac. * What computer (Laptop - Mac specify the model, year and size, Desktop, iMac, all in 1 PC, custom build, etc ) * What is your Operating System (OS) version are you using? (For Mac please specify the dot release, for Windows please specify version / build number) * What calibrator are using? * What version of PME are you using? * What BenQ model do you have? * What cable are you using to connect your BenQ to your computer for the display signal, HDMI, Display Port, etc. * If you are using USB-C skip this question, if not, are you using a USB link cable between your laptop and display? * If you are using Mac was this a clean install or was the OS upgraded from a previous version at any point (I.e. From Mojave 10.13.x to Catalina 10.14.x)? Or was this Mac restore from a back up, time machine or other wise? * For PC, what GPU are you using? If Nvidia are you using their new Studio Driver? * Were you able able to successfully pass the validation at some point * For SW2700PT owner, look at the back of your display on the regular tag and give me the MFG date.
Hi, Art. Thank you for these videos. For my line of work (graphic design/online viewing), Is Native Panel still good for sRGB/graphic design workflows? Or should I go with sRGB. I'd imagine the best settings for the other two is still Relative Black and 16 Bit LUT. Thank you!
@@ArtIsRight Thank you very much for the response. I'll go with Panel Native, 16 Bit LUT, and Absolute Black since I'm using PME 1.3.16. Seems this one has no relative black setting.
Art. Thanks as always. Will be setting up a new SW270c next week in conjunction with 2017 13" MacBook Pro Mojave 10.14.6(though will probably update to Catalina within a few months)using the i1 Display Pro. Would you stick with Palette Master Element 1.3.10 as it looks to be most stable vs.1.3.8 as you can use 16 bit Lut when calibrating which is a fine feature of this monitor. Also which video of yours would be the best specifically with my setup. Most users would prefer to calibrate with panel native and 16 bit Lut one day to really zero in on what capabilities this monitor has to offer. Have a great week.
This is probably the best video, just substitute in the equipment that you have and the settings that you choose to use and yes Panel Native is best. If you want to watch a specific video you can check this one out ua-cam.com/video/bz9y3db9vRI/v-deo.html
hi Art, I struggle getting a better calibration than the factory settings one. what colour profile shall I apply to the Benq SW270C BEFORE I start the Pallette Master? thanks a mil for your advice. (macbook pro, 2.3 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7, eGPU pro)
Please answers these questions completely and we’ll go from here. * What computer (Laptop - Mac specify the model, year and size, Desktop, iMac, all in 1 PC, custom build, etc ) * What is your Operating System (OS) version are you using? (For Mac please specify the dot release, for Windows please specify version / build number) * What calibrator are using? * What version of PME are you using? * What BenQ model do you have? * What cable are you using to connect your BenQ to your computer for the display signal, HDMI, Display Port, etc. * If you are using USB-C skip this question, if not, are you using a USB link cable between your laptop and display? * If you are using Mac was this a clean install or was the OS upgraded from a previous version at any point (I.e. From Mojave 10.13.x to Catalina 10.14.x)? Or was this Mac restore from a back up, time machine or other wise? * For PC, what GPU are you using? If Nvidia are you using their new Studio Driver? * Were you able able to successfully pass the validation at some point
What is the difference between using Matrix and 16 bit LUT. I have the SW2700 mfg. November 2016. I am using 1.3.11, but after the video I may go back to .10. I have noticed that it will calibrate in Adobe RBG, but the Delta E is higher than if I calibrate in Panel Native. Would Panel Native be a better choice given I can use both? Thanks Art! I really enjoy your videos. Mike Deal
Panel Native is best especially if you don't use resolved. In my test I exclusively test Panel native and this video will explain the different type of icc profile build ua-cam.com/video/qClq331WT3E/v-deo.html
Hi Art! I have a question and I am hoping you can help me figure it out. I got a Blackmagic Design Ultrastudio Monitor 3G. I was wondering what the best way of calibrating the BenQ SW2700PT would be for working within Davinci Resolve on a 16 inch 2019 Macbook Pro. I don't think Palette Master Element works with the Ultrastudio, right? Should I use DisplayCal with Davinci Resolve through the ultrastudio (TB3 input - HDMI output) to calibrate the monitor or use Palette Master Element to do a hardware calibration with the monitor connected via a usb-C to display port cable? Thank you! Alex.
If I choose the REC709 preset and start the palette master calibration, does it recalibrate the preset or does it make a custom setting? And once in Resolve do I have to run a calibration from within resolve again to get the accurate colors that resolve is producing or not?
Hi Art. I followed your walkthrough and was able to get a good validation pass. My question is, why are we not able to change the brightness on a calibrated profile? Is there a way to change the brightness, or can we control how bright the finished calibrated profile will be?
Hardware calibration (HWC) = fixed brightness for best and optimal outcome. if they allowed you to change the brightness, technically you would need to accompany that with a different icc profile and calibration since at every luminance point the specific colors being measured would change in output. You can't change HWC brightness, what you can do is calibrate 1 slot to a brightness value and use the other slot to set a difference luminance value. Outlined here ua-cam.com/video/Cgo2p7jF3n0/v-deo.html
Art, I am having trouble running a calibration on a BenQ SW2700PT (May 2016 mfg) using PME and an i1 Studio spectrophotometer with a MacBookPro running Big Sur. Which PME version should I be using and can you please provide a link as I only see 1.3.16 now on the site. Also, any comments on how this combination will run with Monterrey would be appreciated. Thanks Dave
which calibrator do you recommend for the SW270c monitor with Mac OS 10.15. ? on the site it says that some are not compatible ... my monitor arrives on Monday and I would like to buy the probe, which you advise me without having problems with MAC 10.15 and later. Thanks in advance
Hi, I have a Benq sw 270C monitor, I calibrate it with an X-rite display pro. Most of the time I work on the web, so I set srgb as my primary setting. What I do with the calibration: srgb, 6500k, luminance: 140, Black point: 0.3. profile v2, 16bit lut path size large. And the result is a darker screen, white rather than white is more gray. The colors are perfect anyway. In this case, should the color management in the windows remain the calibrated icc profile and the monitor on calibration 1? or switch to factory default setting on the monitor? (what if you went to calibration 2 in an adobe rgb mode, do i always have to change the windows color management icc?)
Phew! Thanks to your awesome videos and recent advice about calibrators, I got my new SW270c to pass validation in PME. It took a few tries; I had to use PME 1.3.16 (no luck with 15) and factory reset my monitor. Now I've got a panel native calibration set to button 1 on the puck, at luminance of 90. For button 2, I'd like to have a setting that allows me to preview what my images will look like to other people when viewing on the web, and for general office work. Should I just leave it on the factory sRGB setting so I can adjust the brightness? Or calibrate using sRGB at a higher luminance than my panel native? I'm hoping to leave button 3 for BW.
You can choose either option. Just know that if you want the more precise color possible then custom calibrate and when you switch the color mode you have to change the icc profile on the system and then quit and relaunch the program to get precise results. Watch this for more info ua-cam.com/video/Cgo2p7jF3n0/v-deo.html and if you understand this concept then you really don't need to do the color mode switching ua-cam.com/video/Gu1nqEf8vzg/v-deo.html
Art, newbie question here: does the palette master program used for color calibration run through the computer's graphics card? And does this impact the signals being used for calibration? I bypass my graphics card using a video interface to feed a clean signal directly into my reference monitor for color grading, and I'm worried that the palette master software calibration program will be skewed by its test signals being processed through the computer's graphics card, if that is indeed what's happening. I'm new to this, so I'm just trying to think through the signal flow, but I could be conceptualizing the situation incorrectly. Your guidance is much appreciated.
does the palette master program used for color calibration run through the computer's graphics card? Yes like any other computer graphic output, no in a sense that it does not control the video card whatsoever. And does this impact the signals being used for calibration? No I bypass my graphics card using a video interface to feed a clean signal directly into my reference monitor for color grading, and I'm worried that the palette master software calibration program will be skewed by its test signals being processed through the computer's graphics card, if that is indeed what's happening. For this what you should is run a hardware calibration with PME using REC 709 with the brightness and gamma setting that you want without the video interface box. Once you are done with the calibration then put the video interface in.
@@ArtIsRight thank you for your quick reply, art! This is what I have done. Out of curiosity, why do you suggest bypassing the video interface (which is a blackmagicdesign ultrastudio monitor 3G) for calibration?
Hi! I intend to buy a SW240. It has 14bit LUT. You did recomended to set the value in Palette Master Element to 16bit LUT. It will work fine or will be a confrlict? Thank you!
@@ArtIsRight Thank you! I bought the monitor, all works fine. I have a question: does the panel has a protected pvc foil or not? I am afraid to try to scratch it. Thank you!
I think you are talking about what looks like a screen protector, it is not, that is part of the front panel lamination and should not be peeled off. Otherwise you'll damage the display.
Hi Art! I just bought a SW271C + Mac Studio M1 Max with Ventura 13.0.1. I’ve disabled all MacOS settings affecting calibration such True Color, Night Shift etc. I understand that after calibration PME will have set brightness to the desired value (80, 100, 120 cd) regardless the monitor menu value. But I am a bit worried about what about if later on I accidentally change the brightness for instance through the hotkey puck dial? Many thanks!
@@ArtIsRight Hi Art. Calibration passed! These are my settings: Mac Studio M1 Max, MacOS Ventura 13.1, PME 1.3.18 and x-rite 1Display Pro. And the calibration results for a target luminance of 120 cd/m2: Measured average AE 1.00, measured maximum AE 2.44, Color temperature 6535K, Black point 0.18 nits. I will calibrate again to 80 or 100 cd to see the difference and choose the one that fits better for my workflow. Thanks!
Hi Art, I have followed all the required steps to calibrate my SW270C and so far everything’s great. I do have one question though. I work primarily with work to be consumed on the web and I mix between photography and video. So, I need both srgb and rec 709. What do you recommend in my situation? Do I hardware calibrate for Native Panel to get the widest gamut and select srgb and rec 709 respectively on my monitor as I need it? O do I do a separate hardware calibration for each use i.e. calibrate using Srgb gamma 2.2 in custom calibration 1 and Rec709 gamma 2.4 in custom calibration 2 and have separate icc profiles for both uses? I am running a Macbook pro 2015 using a Usb-c to the display. Hope you see this. And thank you in advance.
Do you grade with Resolve? If yes then REC 709, Gamma 2.4, D65, Relative Black. If not then a single calibration with sRGB would be fine. Unless you want a custom gamma of 2.4, to be honest a gamma of 2.2 vs 2.4 is really a slight different visually. And if you want to get the most out of the display and all of your programs are color aware, I would just calibrate your display to Panel Native. Panel Native on BenQ SW is a slightly larger Adobe RGB. Since this color space is larger than sRGB and REC 709, if you are using a color aware program, Color Management Module, CMM, will do all of the color translation in the background in realtime for you. So at any given point if you are viewing an image tagged with sRGB on a Panel Native calibration, you will be setting a translated sRGB image as it should look not Panel Native. This is the same for video as well, which is why it is not really necessary to calibrate the smaller color space. The exception of course being Resolved. You can have 2 calibration with 2 separate icc profile, but I would just defer you to the paragraph above about cmm. Hope this helps.
@@ArtIsRight this is perfect. Thanks Art. I followed the steps you suggested using Panel Native and relying on CMM to do the conversions and a separate profile for Rec 709. My only issue is I cant get the blacks distinct enough until the 9th one using your chart from the other video. Everything from 0 to 9 seems to blend on both Absolute and relative settings.. Any tips for this?
Not much that I can comment on about the blacks, I know that with relative the tonal scaling is better than absolute, and for my calibration I was able to see a separation as low 1 and more distinctly at 2 or 3. What calibrator are you using? And let me do some more research on this.
@@ArtIsRight thanks for looking into it Art. I am using the Spyder5 with the Palette Master latest update. When calibrating I have the sw270c monitor hood on. Calbrated under room lighting, not sunlight.
hi Art, Do you have to unplug your other monitor when calibrating on windows. Inorder for pallet elements to calibrate . correctly. I have e recently brought a new sw2700 pt and can't get to pass. It gets worse each time. I have had delta e at 13 and even 18 when verification.i have tried everything on your videos. Called BenQ still can't get the monitor to calibrate. Now I get the message that there may be a conflict with a background app. Only thing in the background running is adobe. Kerwin
Hi Kerwin, if you have Facebook add my page and message me there. Either way, I'm going to need answers these questions for me and we’ll go from here. 1. What computer (Laptop - Mac specify the model, year and size, Desktop, iMac, all in 1 PC, custom build, etc ) 2. What is your Operating System (OS) version are you using? (For Mac please specify the dot release, for Windows please specify version / build number) 3. What calibrator are using? 4. What version of PME are you using? 5. What BenQ model do you have? 6. What cable are you using to connect your BenQ to your computer for the display signal, HDMI, Display Port, etc. 7. If you are using USB-C skip this question, if not, are you using a USB link cable between your laptop and display? 8. If you are using Mac was this a clean install or was the OS upgraded from a previous version at any point (I.e. From Mojave 10.13.x to Catalina 10.14.x)? Or was this Mac restore from a back up, time machine or other wise? 9. For PC, what GPU are you using? If Nvidia are you using their new Studio Driver? 10. Were you able able to successfully pass the validation at some point?
Hi Art, your videos have got me a long way, but with the X-Rite i1 Display Pro, Palette Master 3.10, and SW2700PT, I still haven't got a passing validation. The average Delta E does pass, but one or two shades of gray register at about 4.69 or so. I've tried both the Panel Native, 16-bit Lut, relative black (all the other settings as recommended and Kelvin always does test close to 6500), and also the safe settings: Abobe RGB, matrix, relative black. I'm using an Asus Vivobook 15 with AMD graphics, which by what I've read, doesn't have the 160-235 limitation. Am using an HDMI cable, since the laptop has no USB-C with display signal. Did try absolute black at least once. Do you have any idea what might be the problem? I did upload the drivers form BenQ. Thanks.
@@ArtIsRight Believe it is a F512DA. I did get a passing validation tonight, but still, the high marks of 2.97 and 3.03 are just a little concerning. I am aware, as you say, that photography is art not science, and things tend to miss the ideal mark, but if there's anything I can learn from you, I'm happy to hear it. Thanks again. Very helpful!
Does your computer has an AMD integrated graphics? With AMD Drivers are you running? What are the settings that can be adjusted in that driver. If you can let know what driver and version you are using that would be great.
@@ArtIsRight Art, I think I will have to wait until my son comes home for Thanksgiving for that, unless I figure something out online. Is AMD. Thanks for the clue.
@@ArtIsRight I do have a further question. From the system menu on the SW2700, should I select 0-255, thus countervailing a 16-235 default setting? Should I have done that before calibrating with the X-Rite, or do I simply select "Calibration 1" elsewhere from the system settings and it's ready to go, calibrated at the full 0-255 (since I have AMD graphics)? Is finding the calibration setting and selecting for it difficult to do?
I ran through all of the calibration settings and instructions like you said. I am using a Spyder 4. Everything works great- but validation "report summary" failed. What should I do?
Please answers these questions completely and we’ll go from here. * What computer (Laptop - Mac specify the model, year and size, Desktop, iMac, all in 1 PC, custom build, etc ) * What is your Operating System (OS) version are you using? (For Mac please specify the dot release, for Windows please specify version / build number) * What calibrator are using? * What version of PME are you using? * What BenQ model do you have? * Is this the only display linked up to the system? * What cable are you using to connect your BenQ to your computer for the display signal, HDMI, Display Port, etc. * If you are using USB-C skip this question, if not, are you using a USB link cable between your laptop and display? * If you are using Mac was this a clean install or was the OS upgraded from a previous version at any point (I.e. From Mojave 10.13.x to Catalina 10.14.x)? Or was this Mac restore from a back up, time machine or other wise? * For PC, what GPU are you using? If Nvidia are you using their new Studio Driver? * Were you able able to successfully pass the validation at some point * For SW2700PT owner, look at the back of your display on the regular tag and give me the MFG date. * Have you installed DisplayCal at some point? * Do you know of any color calibration software that starts with the OS and is running in the background?
Thanks for your great videos - they helped me a lot! I have questions concerning Windows and Benq SW2700PT. 1) When doing calibration with PME profiles are written in the monitor hardware. Should we remove any profiles from the windows settings? 2) If for example I use calibration slot 1 for photography and printing and calibration slot 2 for video should I rely on the fabric presets (ADOBE RGB, sRGB and Black and White) and is there any way to calibrate them also or it's best to stick to the custom profiles only? 3) What are the target luminance levels when calibrating for resolve rec 709? Thanks in advance for the answers!
1. don't worry about windows profile, you will still need to use one as well. 2. ua-cam.com/video/Ipuaf5yHrog/v-deo.html this video will explain all of this to you. TL;DR, don't worry about the factory calibrated modes. If you want to calibrate it you can, you would be doing a software calibration on it using the calibration device software, but there's really no point to it, the custom hardware calibration is the better calibration process. 3. 80-120 nits to taste for Rec 709
@@ArtIsRight Thank you for your prompt answer- much appreciated. At the moment in windows I have custom icc profile from xrite callibration software. Should i leave it like that or change to something generic.
@@ArtIsRight Thank you. Now I'm encountering same issue over and over. I've tried to calibrate my SW2700PT with pme v13 and v12 with xrite 1 display pro using native gamut and 16bit lut and the software hangs on measuring 0%, just after the lut has been written. I've connected the display with usb c, and the xrite colorimeter is connected via the screen usb. When PME starts, it recognises the display and the 1 display pro. But it just won't start measuring...
I have a Benq SW 240 monitor and calibrate the monitor using Pallette Master Element and Spyder X. Should I reset the monitor to factory set values before calibration? I choose the brightness level of 80 nits in the Palette Master Element while calibrating. What brightness level should I set the monitor to ( from the drop down menu on the monitor) after the calibration?
@@ArtIsRight I have had a look at the video. This explains very succinctly. Thank you very much for the advice. I am an amatuer photographer and am using Capture One 23 software for editing using my Benq SW 240 monitor. Your uploads on your channel are very useful. Please keep up the good work.👍
Hi @ArtIsRight, Two questions 1) I've just bought the SW721 - and I'm learning to optimise the coolers. My primary monitor before this is an Eizo CG234W. The calibration software for this monitor is no longer updated for OS - therefore I'm calibrating this monitor with the standard Datacolor software and the SpyderX. And now - the question: Can I keep the Datacolor software on my computer for calibrating the Eizo - and still do a correct and independant calibration of the SW721 using the Palette Master Element software? Or will the Datacolor Software disrupt the PME calibration? 2) In one of your videos you mentioned an issue about an unwanted orange toning on the BenQ-screens after calibrating - and how to work around this. I've not been able to find this video. Could you please send me the link for the video presenting the solution on this issue? Thanks for your elaborating and solid videos! Kind Regards Jacob
1. As long as the Spyder Software does not start up with the system you are fine. PC ua-cam.com/video/PDoDwMIFpeM/v-deo.html Mac ua-cam.com/video/WECg_yYBlpU/v-deo.html 2. I think that was related to under certain RGB Primary selection the red would look orange, That is an issue in .8 and have not been an issue for the past 5 versions
@@ArtIsRight Thanks very much for your swift reply. This did make a difference. Though - Still I think the calibrated BenQ display looks somewhat warmer (less bluish) than expected - compared to display with it's own standard setting and my Eizo calibrated with the SpyderX Elite.
Hi. First of all, thank you for your videos - really helpful to set up my new SW270C, I'm interested in the reasons for using a luminance of 80 here, as you previously used 120. When I set up my old NEC Multisync with IProfiler, I used 80. As I recall, I read an article that said if you are working in a dimly lit room (which I am) , you should use 80 rather than 120, is that the case? I did run Pallette Master using the best settings and a luminance of 120, and I got a validation where the highest delta E was 1.1 I think. Just interested to know what your opinion on luminance values was. Thanks again.
In most of my videos, I recommend a luminance range between 80-120. My personal number is 80 nits all the time for my own calibration. 120 was used for demo purposes only. Regardless of the lighting in the room I always calibrate mine to 80 nits. But this range works well for all type of work which is why I recommend it. 80 is too dim for some while 120 is still too bright for others. Your ∆E value is great! Have fun editing.
@@ArtIsRight thanks, perhaps I'll try a lower luminance, as I did find the monitor to be quite bright compared to what I was used to using. Perhaps assessing this page www.drycreekphoto.com/Learn/Calibration/monitor_sensitivity.html at different luminance values - would provide the sweet spot ?
That is a good test chart but what the lab is asking anyone to do with the chart on the display is somewhat arbitrary. The white that you may not see in the first few spots is not necessary a brightness issues, it can be but 9 times out of 10 it is not. It has more to do with gamma and contrast set on the display. Gamma is a function of the calibrate and yes the default at 2.2 is the best for photography work. I would not use the chart to determined brightness of the display. So like I said before I set my display to 80 nits and it has been matching prints just fine. This brightness value is not absolute either, it would mostly depend on the printing that you do, choosing a value based on others may not produce the best result with your work. This is the fine tuned part.
I've tried different luminance values and I've found that setting a higher value misleads the eye and results in prints that are too dark. For the same reason, I generally work on a light background in Photoshop as a darker value makes the image look brighter and again results in prints that are too dark.
Perception can change the way how an image look. Additionally, if you calibrate it brighter, it does play with your eyes but more so what you are seeing on the display at higher luminance value is just simply brighter than a printed image.
Hi Art. I have been digging the content and have found your videos very helpful for my own BenQ screen. I have a question about colour profile mismatch between Adobe Photoshop 20.2 and Adobe Camera Raw 12.3. I had this issue a while back but adobe seemed to have sorted it, but the issue seems to be back! I am finding my image is looking more saturated and higher contrast when i open the same image in Camera Raw compared to the image in the main space of Photoshop. I have read that Camera Raw uses a different colour profile linked directly to the hardware of the screen? Have you heard about this and do you have an answer for how to correct it? Maybe you have touched on this already but I'd love to hear your thoughts. Its incredibly frustrating as I basically cant edit in ACR as it currently stands. Thanks again. Simon
Which BenQ SW model do you own and what PME software version are you using? What is your current RGB Primary calibration now? And are you on Mac or PC?
@@ArtIsRight BenQ SW321C. Running off a Macbook Pro 16" (2019), PME 1.3.8 (found newer versions were not giving me a pass). D65, Abobe 98, L100, G22, Relative. I did an initial calibration back in March 2020 and was fine. So i dont know if its an update from Apple or PME thats making it go wacky?
So if you stick with .8 You should calibrate with the following setting to avoid the color shift. Panel Native, L100, G22, Relative and choose 16 BIT LUT or Matrix whichever one gives you a better ∆E result. The key with .8 is to use Panel Native. I would recommend that you try out .10 if you are going to use Adobe RGB as the primary. For reference Panel Native is a slightly larger Adobe RGB color gamut.
@@ArtIsRight So i tried .10 and .11 but my calibration for the REDs was failing massively the ∆E was like 14+ every time, so going back to .8 seemed to sort it. Is there a reason why the red is failing so bad? i will try out these settings this weekend. I did find Panel Native was failing too. I seem to have many failings :( I wonder if this is a video you could cover in the future, specifically with photoshop specs. thanks again
Hi Art, I calibrated my SW270C monitor with PME 1.3.16 (couldn't find a download for 1.3.15 for Windows). I used all the settings you recommended in your Ultimate Guide/updated Best settings (White Point: D65, RGB Primary: Panel Native, Luminance 80, Gamma: 2.2, Black Point: 0.3 nits, Profile Version: v2, 16 Bit LUT, Large). When I last calibrated the monitor (a long time ago) it showed the brightness of the monitor fixed at 39, this time it's fixed at 22, however, it seems a bit brighter than it was before! I just wondered if you knew what the reason for this might be? The only differences are that I used black point 0.3 nits instead of relative, PME 1.3.16 instead of PME 1.3.10 and I ran the software from my new PC instead of my laptop. Thank you!
Are you talking about the number on the display menu, if so when you are in calibration color mode it should be grayed out. If you set the luminance to 80, check and see the calibration and validation report, it should tell you the display brightness in cd/m^2 which is the most accurate.
Thanks for the helpful videos. I realize this is old, but can you explain the relationship between the Windows ICC profile (the one selected in Windows Color Management) and the hardware calibration? Specifically, (1) what should the Windows ICC profile be set to when performing the calibration and (2) once the calibration is complete, PM creates a new Windows ICC profile in addition to the hardware LUT profile... do we need to select both the Windows profile and the hardware profile? I switch between profiles for sRGB and AdobeRGB, so I have two hardware LUT profiles and two Windows profiles. Thanks!
1. before leave it as is, after the Calibration software should automatically set the icc. If not choose the one that the app generate. 2. Yes the icc and hardware calibration slots has to mach. If you have a compatible display use Palette Master Ultimate because it has icc sync, so when you switch mode the icc with sync automatically
Hi Art, I've been trying to run calibration on a newly purchased SW2700PT with the i1 Display pro. I've tried a variety of your recommended settings with PME 1.3.11 and my validation keeps failing. I'm running on PC with a DVI cable connected to an NVIDIA GTX 970. The colorimeter is plugged into the monitor USB. I get delta E values ranging from 4-9 or so. Any suggestions?
I had the same problem with my SW2700PT. I saw a video from Art where he suggested going back to the previous version (1.3.10) because of a bug in 1.3.11. I followed his advise and have been calibrating with no problems at all. Hope this helps.
I just posted a comment with links to download these previous versions. It is pinned to the top. If you are having issues with DVI cable, you might want to consider trying another connector type as well, but I would first down grade to .10
I have one doubt. I have a Benq SW 240C momitor. I have set the monitor to brightness level of 55 as indicated in the menu. While calibrating the monitor with Spyder X colorimeter and Palette Master Element, I set the brightness to 80 nits. In the light of this, what brightness setting should I set the monitor to? Or, does this matter ( display brightness on the monitor) if set the brightness to 80 nits in the Palette Mmaster Element at the time of calibration? Will this affecft my editing of the photos. ( I use Capture One 22 Pro).
Hi, do you definitely need a calibrating device to calibrate a SW series Hardware calibrated monitor. I'm looking to pick a SW240 given my budget, do i need to run a calibration only using a device.
@@ArtIsRight thank-you, just got a sw240, buying a xrite instead of Spyder x Pro will be heavy for me now, will a uncalibrated display hv huge variations though it is said to be factory calibrated
Somewhat because it is not paired with your video output. If you can get a Spyder X for cheaper then just get that. It is better to calibrate than not.
Hi Art. Thanks again for another informative video. I was just wondering what the rationale is for setting the black point to relative and are there any situations where absolute might be preferred ?
I can't seem to find any information about screen brightness settings prior to calibration. Do you know what it should be set at before I run the calibration?
Art Good Day. Thanks for the Panel Native clarification. As mentioned I will be calibrating SW270C in combination with 2017 Mac Book Pro Mojave and i1 Display Pro. Is it worth it to download 1.3.8 (for its 16 bit lut capability but only able to use Panel Native otherwise color shift bug in Lightroom ) or 1.3.10 (only able to choose Matrix but a bit more flexibility). I guess my question is there a huge difference between 16 bit lut and Matrix. My gut would be to use the more stable version 1.3.10. Appreciate your helping to clarify for the less experienced who are trying to learn properly, As this will be my maiden voyage in calibrating this fine monitor I would like to get it right the first time.. Thanks.
I just borrow myself a MAC and tried calibrating my SW2700PT on it. After calibrating the display profile is set to /tmp../RDC_begin on latest driver which I find strange. This can't be right, am I right? So I went in to /Users/User/ColorSync/Profiles/Dispaly and set the latest saved from Pallette Master. I guess I also have to manually change this if I got multiple calibrations as I had to do in Windows, ex if I have a Native and sRGB calibration saved?
Watch this ua-cam.com/video/xywb1_vpQhI/v-deo.html What you are seeing is correct and you should not change it, it is the linear profile pre calibration.
My SW270C has the sRGB and Adobe RGB modes from the factory. But when I calibrate my display with PME at the standard "Web Design" sRGB setting, it saves the calibration into the slot named "Calibration 1", not into the "sRGB" slot. It also produces some icc profile for my OS. Applying this profile does not seem to do anything on my Windows 10. Neither does applying other profiles. I am confused. As far as I understand, over time displays develop some shift in colors, and regular recalibration ensures we correct for these shifts. But if the calibration is saved into "Calibration 1", that means that the factory sRGB mode stays uncorrected, and over time it becomes more and more incorrect?
This video will help explain why ua-cam.com/video/Ipuaf5yHrog/v-deo.html but TLDR version of it is that if you custom calibration then that won't be an issue, since the calibration would accommodate for the shift over time. These newer LED backlight, don't shift very much if at all, so you should be good for quite sometime. The preset color mode are lock once the display left the factory there's no adjusting them. Which is why there are 3 calibration slots on your displays, these are writable LUT slots so that PME can write the setting to the display, this is regardless of the RGB Primary that you choose during calibration. And since you custom calibration those preset modes are of no consequences to you. Now moving to Windows 10, it does not color manage at the OS Level, and yes you do choose a profile but that profile is really not for the OS, but more so for the programs that uses color management so that they know which profile to use. Because of this, when changing profile you might not see a difference at all. In addition PME generated profile only contained color gamut info and no color remapping which also reemphasize why there are no color changes when you change profile. Hope this helps
I have SWC 240 C monitor. I have been calibrating the monitor using Spyder X. My doubt is whether I need to calibrate the software as well as hardware. i.e., the display card (my laptop has NVIDIA dispay care) as well as the hardware in the monitor. Please clarify.
Hi Art - I am using a MacBook Pro 2019 with Catalina (10.15.3) and just got the i1Display Pro Plus to use with my Ben Q 2700PT and I got this error message upon opening my PME: "A connection to a BENQ display cannot be established. Please make sure the USB cable is connected and that the FTDI drivers are working." I have the monitor plugged into my computer via a USB-C Display port cable. I tried to look up how to get the FDTI driver working and was not able to find any good answers for my set-up. (One website said it won't work with Catalina) Any suggestions? (I do not even really understand what an FDTI driver is!) Thanks!
ua-cam.com/video/OVml8PQ4F2g/v-deo.html That USB C adapter you are using only carry display signal you need to use the USB A to USB B uplink with a dongle or you can get this cable and forgo a dongle www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07W81GXV9/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Hello, Relative Black is not an option in my PM Software. I have Absolute Black and a Nit Value. also i don't understand if i should use Native or SRGB. Occasionally edit photos an i want them to look correct online.
Thanks very much for your video, just calibrated for the first time and it all worked and was validated ok. A couple of questions though. x-rite i1Display Pro / SW270C / WindowsPC / Panel Native setting / switched off all monitor auto light settings before calibrating. 1. The target temperature was 6500K yet the achieved temperature is 7221K (same result when I tried again) that's quite a large difference, will it make a significant difference to the viewed colours? 2. Once calibrated to "calibration1" slot, do the other color modes I then select (sRGB, AdobeRGB, DisplayP3) take their instructions from the new calibration settings which were saved to the "calibration1" slot? Because after calibration, if I select the "calibration1" color mode, the colors are way too saturated overall to use as a reference for color-grading, they are completely over the top (especially the reds) But if I select the sRGB or DisplayP3 for instance, they look correct - more like as seen on all my other displays/phones/tablets. (And those three color modes/spaces now look slightly different after the calibration than what they did with the factory settings, although interestingly the sRGB selection looks different each time compared to if I calibrate specifically for sRGB rather than Panel Native)
1. That color temperature is much higher than I like, and on the border for margin of error. What video card are you using and what display cable are you using with it your computer and display? If Nvidia are you running on studio driver? 2. No factory calibration will remain the same ua-cam.com/video/Ipuaf5yHrog/v-deo.html Something is going with the calibration, your delta e might pass but you are probably looking at something between 2 and 4 if I have to take a guess. Is this a desktop or laptop?
@@ArtIsRight 1. Sometimes it gets to as high as 7345K when I repeat a calibration. Nvidia RTX280Ti, Studio driver (March 2021) Displayport cable. I just updated the Nvidia drivers and now the calibration fails most times. Also the Luminance Target is 120 but now only achieves 88 -106? Is this a monitor issue or a xrite calibrator issue do you think? I have calibrated two other non-BenQ monitors with it (using Displaycal) and they work fine, looking very similar to each other - quite different from the BenQ which is oversaturated after calibration. 2. OK, thanks. It's a desktop PC used for graphic work. Not printing images out at this stage, mostly uploading to web (but the files need to be suitable for printing at some stage. Delta e is under 1 to under 2 when it passes or 4 - 5 when it fails. I've now downloaded an earlier version of PME to see if that makes a difference. :)
OK, it's a complete mess now - I've been calibrating all afternoon and it PME fails every time even on your "safe" settings. Now the delta e gets as high as 12! I calibrated another monitor using Displaycal (just to check the hardware) and delta e was below 1.5 and it all looks good.
This is a video card driver setting and OS issue, not related to any hardware. DisplayCal is probably the culprit here. Here are some videos that may help PC & Argyll CMS Driver issues ua-cam.com/video/oXF78siuXWA/v-deo.html Here's another video that might help fix the issue as well. ua-cam.com/video/PDoDwMIFpeM/v-deo.html Also download and install this X-Rite device service as well www.xrite.com/service-support/downloads/x/x-rite_device_services_v3_1_119_pc You can try other versions of PME but .15 is stable in my testing.
Dso you have a full walkthroug with recommended settings for 1.3.15 2021? Am still not getting the verification needed and hope this new version will do this for me. Right now went back to default settings and dropped the exposure. Thanks, Ted
Hi Art, I don't understand why the i1Display Studio doesn't work with palette master element if it can be used to calibrate displays (which is what I want to use it for)? Is there a reason the software doesn't work with it? I don't suppose you'd know what other options I might have as I've already bought the i1Display Studio not realising it won't work! Thank you! Michael
It does not work because i1Display Studio is X-Rite entry calibration device and even-though it look similar to the pro one, i1Display Studio is software lock to i1Studio software only and X-Rite does not provide 3rd party developers with a Software Development Kit (SDK) for that specific device. The only option that you have really is to sell the i1Display Studio as used on Craigslist or Ebay and then get an i1Display Pro or Pro Plus. If you are still in the return windows then return it and get the pro.
@@ArtIsRight That is unfortunate, but it might depend on the extra expense for me to upgrade. I've read that 'Software calibration has reduced colour depth. Hardware protects the monitor's original color gamut thanks to an internal LUT that doesn't truncate the color depth.' I don't suppose you have a review or there's info anywhere that shows the potential real-world differences between software and hardware calibration on the monitor's color gamut? I'm just wondering how noticeable the difference might actually be in terms of viewing on the monitor, printing etc.
You can watch this ua-cam.com/video/9hVfwW9LK8E/v-deo.html that will cover the differences between Hardware and Software calibration. Visually, they will come close. How you get to the look and color that you are seeing is entirely different on HW vs SW calibration.
Hello Art, Just had a query .. I was planning to go for SW2700PT.. Alongside we are also planning to buy a central server with graphics card to manage our data for our entire office. The server company when asked, said there is no need for graphics card on individual PCs if there is one installed on the central as the server will handle the computing load.. But my question is whether the absence or presence of graphics card in the PC that this monitor is connected to will influence the colors on monitor.. We are into print design and accurate colors are the most important, the very reason for going with Benq Monitor.. Can you advise me on whether I should have the graphics card installed on my system , the individual PC or its ok if I have one on the central server.
If you have individual PC, those PC would contain a GPU of some sort no doubt. If you do print design, I am not sure why having a server with a strong GPU will help you. It does not make sense, I deploy and consult for pro setup and that is not something that I would advise. The only time where that make sense is that your server is a rendering farm and is constantly working footage. If that is not the case then putting the good GPU in the server is not useful. For the individual PC you can run on the integrated GPU and get decent result but if it is an intel integrated GPU then you are only going to be getting 8 bit color output. To get 10 bit you need a dedicated GPU such as the Nvidia and you have to use their studio driver. If you can tell me more what your server does this would help. From what you are telling me and what you described you do, it seems that the primary function of your server is for file storage, to which I would forego the video card on that system and install them in the work station. If you like to consult further with me, you may. You can reach out to me on Facebook or instagram as well as email.
@@ArtIsRight Thanks a lot. Yes, the Primary function of the server is the file storage and management. But they suggested that all the stations can connect remotely from that server i.e say 4 pcs connected to server and thus using the server resources, the PC would just be acting as a User Interface. Would this affect the color on the display. This was scenario 1 however. The Scenario 2 would be just buying a NAS ( Network Access Storage) and then buying 4 high end workstations with GPU alongside other high end components. Which one would you suggest ?
So this sounds like you are using remote session on the server to pool the resources, the thing is that the individual thin machine as I'll call your work station setup still needs to be individually calibrated. The question is are you using Windows Server and doing a remote session in using Remote Desktop or remote login and running the software on the server or just the local machine. Either way you still need to calibrate the local display on each thin machine individually, the how depends on the setup. I think the company that you are working with is, like many company are great at computer, but does not understand the need of creative. Personally I would recommend a NAS, if you do video you want more power on each machine, server will quickly choke with video rendering and slow down the entire team. With a NAS I would use a 10 Gbe networking on both Nas and user machine and get a more powerful work station. What type of creative work does your company do? I can answer your questions better understanding this.
Hi Art; I now have my new SW240 & i1 Display Pro; have also downloaded PME 1.3.8, 1.3.10 and X-Rite 3.3.0 software. I'm getting ready to connect SW240 up to my Win 7 PC via second DVI port and will connect X-Rite to a PC USB port, not the monitor, after I run the 3.3.0 setup file. A couple more queries on the correct order to do things if I may: 1. Do I have to connect the USB cable to the monitor if I have an external card reader and don't want / need to use the monitor USB port s 2. Should I run the X-Rite 3.3.0 setup file as first step then connect i1 Display Pro to my PC USB . I will also be reconnecting my existing monitor (Hanns-G) to it's original (1st DVI) port after SW240 is calibrated 3. Do I need to load anything from the SW240 supplied DVD, like drivers etc & when do I run this 4. Should I run PME 1.3.10 setup first, then connect the monitor (2nd DVI port) & power it up 5. Can I keep the existing factory set colour calibration (in case I need to fall back on it for some reason) and run PME / i1 Display Pro on a different calibration port setting, say 2 6. At 18:42; mention of initial pre-calibration of colormonki, my i1 Display Pro is brand new, does it need to be pre-calibrated before I continue with PME . I hope it's not too much to ask but I know things can go wrong when they are out of sequence.
Give this video a look too it will help avoid issues ua-cam.com/video/PDoDwMIFpeM/v-deo.html 1. Yes you still need the USB for hardware calibration, it will not work otherwise. 2. Probably a good idea to install the software first. But if you want to start fresh with BenQ, then I would just install PME, plug in the device and calibrate. You have leave both display plugged in, but unplugging the other non BenQ is a sure way to guarantee non conflicts. 3. No you just need PME> 4. The sequence does not matter in this situation. 5. Factory color mode will always remain, you can't change those. Your calibration will come in on either slot 1 or 2, choose one or the other won't change any factory calibration. 6. So that device is an i1Studio and it is a color spectrophotometer. For these type of devices, you will need to pre-calibrate the device, the software will walk you through this. You have an i1Display Pro which is a colorimeter, if you keep watching until the part where I calibrate the PC, you will see there no pre-calibration. Follow the prompt on PME. Have fun!
@@ArtIsRight thank you Art; a very informative & comprehensive reply, I will follow your advice. I've watched the Measurement Error video and switched off my Spyder 3 software, I can't see anything else in there relating to calibration at the moment. I've just tried to run the 3.3.0 i1Profiler software but it won't load on my Win 7 PC, will have to check supported software levels in the morning unless you happen to know which version I should download.
About i1Profiler version, you would have to check their website, I don't know off the top of my head what version is Win 7 compatible. my guess would be the earlier 3.x version.
@@ArtIsRight thank again once again for your support. I have just tried the previous v3.2.2 version but the screen info, sent during setup, says it supports Windows 8.1 upwards, so I aborted this install. As it's getting rather late here in the UK; I have taken some screen dumps & emailed the query direct to their support team, hopefully they will get back to me tomorrow or the day after.
Hi Art, any advice on calibrating two SW2700PT's? Both are connected via displayport, both connected to USB3, and are seen as different monitors by Pallet Master Elements. Unfortunately it doesn't matter which monitor I select and run the calibration on (and the program moves to the correct monitor) it only loads the LUT into the 1st Monitor (my main display in Windows). I have confirmed this by using Calibration 1 and 2. i1 Display Pro Windows 10, Palette Master v1.3.11 There is a a Dell 2711 on a third dp connection running a profile created with i1Profiler.
So what you have to do is pull the USB Cable from the one that you are not calibrating on. The reason is because PME can't sees only 1 SW, it does not matter which models and what combination. Calibrate 1 at a time, disconnect the USB from the one that you are not calibrating and you are good.
Hi, I have a SW2700PT New Firmware model. Is it normal, that I can only manage to calibrate it using 1.3.8 version??? Also, using the same settings only 1 out of 5 results to good outcome. Is this normal too? 1.3.10 doesn't work at all, no matter how many times I tried.
Please answers these questions completely and we’ll go from here. 1. What computer (Laptop - Mac specify the model, year and size, Desktop, iMac, all in 1 PC, custom build, etc ) 2. What is your Operating System (OS) version are you using? (For Mac please specify the dot release, for Windows please specify version / build number) 3. What calibrator are using? 4. What version of PME are you using? 5. What BenQ model do you have? 6. What cable are you using to connect your BenQ to your computer for the display signal, HDMI, Display Port, etc. 7. If you are using USB-C skip this question, if not, are you using a USB link cable between your laptop and display? 8. If you are using Mac was this a clean install or was the OS upgraded from a previous version at any point (I.e. From Mojave 10.13.x to Catalina 10.14.x)? Or was this Mac restore from a back up, time machine or other wise? 9. For PC, what GPU are you using? If Nvidia are you using their new Studio Driver? 10. Were you able able to successfully pass the validation at some point?
To answer your question, not at all if you can calibrate with Panel Native that is the best, better than Adobe RGB. Are you using a USB Upstream cable between the display and computer?
I watched this with great interest as I run dual SW240 BenQ monitors off my Nvidia GTX 660 video card. I upgraded my OS from Windows 7 to Windows 10 last year and recalibrated both monitors with my ColorMunki photo using the i1Studio software, but this required manually adjusting the brightness but it seemed to work well. After watching your video however I thought it would be best to try and calibrate the monitors using the BenQ Pallette Master Elements software. I downloaded the latest version (1.3.13) and followed your instructions. My primary monitor calibrated and verified ok, but when running the calibration sequence on my secondary display I found the software was still adjusting the brightness of the primary monitor. Thus I can not calibrate the 2nd monitor. Is this a bug in the pallete master software or am I doing something wrong?
@@ArtIsRight Many thanks for this. I had thought that disconnecting one monitor may be a possible work around but with DVI connectors this is a pain and rather inconvenient. BenQ really need to get this bug sorted. i1Studio manages to get each monitor correct, so please urge BenQ to sort this if you can. I may just stick with i1studio in future.
You don't need to pull the DVI just the USB cord, and it is not that difficult to pull the USB. With this you can do a hardware calibration and it should work. i1Studio is not a hardware calibration program, but it does work for display calibration as well.
@@ArtIsRight I don't have the monitors connected by USB, only DVI. I found I actually had to re-configure Windows back to just one monitor, run the calibration, then reconnect and re-configure Windows back to 2 screens. That's the only way i've been able to get the calibration to work. A real pain to do unfortunately. I can't see me doing this too often. I shall probably revert to i1 software.
It is interesting that the calibration works without the USB. So good to know, I have not used DVI in years. The bright side is that you don't have to calibrate that often. But if you choose to do a software calibration that does work as well, each to their own :)
@ArtIsRight When i was a kid (age 9 -1993) i used to hang around in my father's studio. Looking around how they used to work with film camera, negatives of various sizes. Printing & developing photos in darkroom and Prints being washed with chemicals and water. Drying out on top of heater. I just remembered those hard working Golden Days and now we all do it in daylight like a breeze. Oh! What a journey it is to live and remember it all in a⚡ flash❤️. Sorry if i'm too passionate about it.🙏
It's fine, thank you for sharing. Yeah if you think about it the film evolution took about 100 years before it got really great and versatile. Digital took about half that time, if you consider the first digital cameras in the late 1980 and early 1990. What's even more amazing is that the camera phone evolution took only about 1/5 of this time, look at the iPhone from the first one until now. Talk about exponential improvements.
@@ArtIsRight Today i came back to my studio and did calibration Panel Native D65 Luminance 80 and it worked. Now colour and brightness is perfect. May the pandemic end soon and shop start working as normal to all soon 🙏.
I have a new SW270c display as an extended monitor for my iMac 27 5K 2019 computer and get the flicker in Lightroom you said was a bug that had been corrected. I am still getting it. What is the workaround? I am calibrating my display with a colorchecker display pro that I also recently got. Thank you.
Flickering is not the bug, color shift in adobe product is the bug. Flicking I am not sure what is causing that on your end. If you use 16 BIT LUT as the icc profile type that might be the issue, recommend setting that to matrix.
@@ArtIsRight Thank you. I am using Matrix and I think following your recommendations in the video. Is Adobe working on the color shift issue or do I have the wrong display for working with Adobe products ? Repeated calibrations using colorchecker display pro gave one PASS that was not saved and four FAILS that were saved. Continue to retry and have turned off all the automatic color adjustments I can find including ones in Accessibility on my iMac 27" 5K display. Thank you again.
Color shift issues has been limited for more than a year now. As far as flicking that could be the result of the GPU in your iMac and not the display. When in doubt do A/B testing, test the display with another machine to see if the issue persists. Or it could be the cable but if it is Lightroom Specific then it is more likely the GPU.
So if I do both photo and video, could I do 2 different calibrations like one gamma 2.2 panel native for photo and another gamma 2.4 and rec 709 roe Resolve? and then switch accordingly between the 2 (on a SW series monitor)?
@@ArtIsRight Thank you so much, your channel is great. Many colourist use an I/O card such the Blackmagic UltraStudio 4k. How would it work in that case with the SW series?
Hi my benq monitor is connected with hdmi port in my laptop, and as soon as i try to run the pallete master it says that i need to connect the usb from the monitor to the computer. Please help
With USB you need to use the USB Uplink cable as well. Also if you don't have an SW line don't use Palette Master Element, but if you do, you are using the right app
BenQ Palette Master Element Version 1.3.15 is the best and most stable current release version to use. Best settings & guide here ua-cam.com/video/eCOPETFhZlE/v-deo.html
I've got 1.3.16 - should I roll back to 15?
benq monitor press enter and menu to burn in off broblem😡
You have the most clear, well/explained tutorials and the most explanatory videos I have seen on the field. Just by watching few videos of yours it already cleared my mind from questions I've been carrying for quite some time on printing workflow, monitor calibration and monitor/paper calibrators. I also think I am now understanding the potential of my BenQ monitor. Thank you for sharing your expertise in such a nice, straightforward way.
I am spreading the word about your channel.
Thank you for the feedback, it is greatly appreciated!
Since finding your videos and following your recommendations religiously I've really come to appreciate what incredible devices the BENQ monitors are. Now, color managed printing is a breeze rather than a nightmare. Thank you, Art, for your expertise and your efforts to share it on UA-cam.
Great to hear!
I find your videos so great as you explain the important details in a way most folks can understand. Well done!
Thank you very much!
Just completed the first calibration of my SW321C with an i1 Studio. Thanks to you, it went perfectly.
Nice!
Big thanks for making this video and including links to the previous versions of Palette Master.. I just installed the default program on a windows 10 machine with an i1 Display Pro, and then immediately "upgraded" at the prompt to version 1.3.12. That was a major mistake... All I got when trying to calibrate was windows 10 crashes with a white screen, and I could not recover the system without a hard reboot. This continued till I found your link and installed 1.3.11.. Now life is good!
Glad to hear that it all worked out! And happy that you found the channel, please share with friends :)
So good, clear and clarifying! I've always used Eizo and I'm just about to buy my first BenQ and this video really help to understand the hardware calibration terms and software on the Benwq...esssentially same principle and settings of Eizo colour navigator software
thanks for explaining it so well!
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you @ArtisRight the version 1.3.14 worked well for my hdmi only enabled hp 15" ayxxx wins 10 laptop.
I used v4, large and 16bit.
With spyderX which I had prior to purchasing the SW 240.
The average delta E is 0.77 and max delta E is 1.55.
The colour is so phenomenal, simply wow.
On Photoshop, videos players and youtube. I'm now redoing all my old edits.
Nice!
So Matrix for Mac and 16 bit LUT for PC? Or Matrix for Spectrophotometer and 16 bit LUT for Colorimeter?
The former because of Mac and PC and some bugs and not because of the device. I would check out my latest PME 1.3.16 video for best setting recommendations but what you said is correct.
Excellent pulling together of all the previous PM videos. Thankyou very much.
My pleasure!
My SW2700PT MFG January 2020 and using PME 1.3.10 👍 No issues. Just had problems with Nvidia display control setup, so i just reset it and factory reset monitor and all good. Another great video Sir 👌💖
Thanks for the info!
should the monitor be in ADOBE RGB? OR WE COULD CHOOSE an other profile?
You can choose other Gamut, I recommend Panel Native, but the choice is highly dependent on your creative workflow.
Your videos are fantastic, congratulations!! Thanks to your video I have been able to calibrate my Benq SW271C monitor, but I have a question: In my MACSTUDIO > SYSTEM SETTINGS > SCREENS > COLOR PROFILE > WHAT PROFILE SHOULD I ASSIGN???? Thank you very much and greetings!
Before nothing, leave as is. after calibration chose the profile that PME create. Also since you have the SW271C, it is compatible with BenQ new software Palette Master Ultimate, I would recommend using that instead.
This tutorial was very, very helpful. Thank you for taking the time to explain set up and calibration in detail. I have one question. I am connecting my 2015 macbook air to my benq sw270c with a displayport cable. I also connected the usb cable for hardware calibration. After calibration, can I only use the displayport cable and leave the usb cable disconnected if I'm not use the monitor's SD card reader or usb inputs? Is there any benefit to leaving the usb cable connected after calibration other than gaining access to the monitor's SD card reader and usb input? Thank you!!
You can disconnect the USB cable if you are not planning to use the USB ports on the side. :D
Watch this for the latest Palette Master Element 1.3.14 update & best settings. This video contain links to download previous PME versions as well ua-cam.com/video/L91IFdTFaxE/v-deo.html
exactly why i came here :-)
Hi Art - you videos are amazing! Just curious, does BenQ make a monitor for photographers that print. By this I mean a color accurate monitor with 100pp1 and 0.25 pixel pitch? I am struggle to find a monitor with these specs. This is need to printing large in order to accurately see the critical sharpening, which as you know is really important.
"does BenQ make a monitor for photographers that print."
Yes the SW series
" By this I mean a color accurate monitor with 100pp1 and 0.25 pixel pitch?"
This is not a normal or a listed specification or criteria that most would searcher for.
"I am struggle to find a monitor with these specs. This is need to printing large in order to accurately see the critical sharpening, which as you know is really important."
It may not exist. Plus there are translational changes with screen to print, sharpening is critical but it all depends on the creative.
So I use a i1display. Do you recommend the i1profiler software or pallete master element to calibrate for this monitor?
For BenQ SW series use either Palette Master Element or Palette Master Ultimate depending on compatibility. If your mode is compatible with the latter, use that. For any other display use i1Profilier or Calibrite Profilier software.
Excellent Art! You make very complex concepts very easy to understand. Thank you.
Thank you!
Hi Art, thank you for another great video!
A question, If I calibrate my SW271 with my SpiderX calibrator and software will I have the same calibration features as with PME ? I.E will the calibration be saved into the monitor hardware etc. ?
If you use Spyder X software - no - that would be a software calibration only, not hardware.
Hi Art, thank you so much for your advice on the Palette master but what are you recommendations for a SW2700pt owner/latest FW now that benq has released the v12 of the app and the relative black point option has been removed. Also is it to be preferred over v10 or v11 for macOS/Catalina?
Testing on going, will report back soon.
@@ArtIsRight same question on PC: my options are Black Point Zero or .5 nits (if I remember right), thanks
Thanks for your videos @ArtIsRight, they are all very informative.
Is rec709 calibration still recommended for Da Vinci Resolve 17 as you explain @07:37? Or would "Panel Native" be more appropriate now that Resolve has its own Colour managed profile?
Thank you
Now that Resolved has introduced color management, if it is working correctly then Panel Native would be the way to go.
@ArtIsRight That might sound like a odd question, but is there a way to upload 3d luts directly to the SW-Series (sw270c in particular) created by 3rd party software (displaycal) or are the Benqs bond to their own software?
No 3D LUT can only be calibrated with a compatible software
Hi Art, question I’ve had for awhile. If I set luminance to 80,100,120 on the 3 puck slots and that’s the only change made. Does the profile on the Mac need to be changed when I switch between those? Or can I keep one profile on the mac when this is the only change being made when switching the slots. Would love to hear your thoughts!
Depending on the gamut. If they are all the same, you can use the same profile. If you change the gamut then you need to change profile.
Great video. Few questions if I may. I’m using this monitor with the Mac Mini M1 with HDMI port and I have no functionality with the extra USB / headphone ports or SD Card reader. Can you tell me what I’m doing wrong?
You need to use the USB uplink cable in addition to the HDMI or if you are using some type of USB C adapter. If you use USB C to USB C you can forego this.
Thanks for this. Made setting up my new SW240 quite straightforward.
Great to hear!
Your presentation was outstanding!!
Thank you so much!
Hi Art!
Thanks a lot for all the great videos, which I have been consuming voraciously since I got my SW 270C 2 weeks ago. I just got a SpyderX Elite 2 days ago and did my first ever hardware calibration using your older video on this topic. Everything went great and I am very happy with the results.
Question is this - Can I create a Custom Color Mode using my hardware calibration results, which will then allow me to adjust the brightness of the monitor, to account for the ambient light at different times of the day. Because of course the Calibration slots do not allow for brightness adjustments.
If yes, how do I create the Custom settings?
That is not possible, and when it comes to display the brightness of it should not change with the environment throughout the day, otherwise you are editing your work to a moving target. It is not advised at all. This is one of those feature that color engineers come up with to sell a product but have less practical use in real life. The issues is that many of these color engineers are great at what they do but they are not photographers per say, so these disconnect do happen.
@@ArtIsRight Right. I understand. I try to keep my photo editing very consistent, including ambient light.
But if I am outside Photoshop, for instance, sometimes web pages are simply too bright. And I would like to be able to adjust my brightness in those situations.
Is it not possible to take the info from the calibration report and use that to create an accurate Custom Color profile to use outside of Photoshop, one where I can control the brightness?
How bright are you calibrating your display to? I mean what you can do is switch to another color mode, i.e. Adobe RGB and then you can control the brightness that way, here's a hack how to set the luminance on those color modes ua-cam.com/video/TE5zsrOAH6M/v-deo.html And if anything you can just create another custom calibration for Web with a darker luminance setting.
@@ArtIsRight I did 3 calibrations, 80, 100 and 120 lumens. I will try using the darker one for web work, and if that does not work, I will create another one, even darker. That's a good workaround. Thanks!
I bought a SW270C to use with a new Dell XPS, what is the best software version to use? I downloaded the 1.3.17 version from the website but after watching several of your videos I learned that the latest is not always the best. Thanks for that info, I've always thought that the latest would be best, good to know that's not always the case. The new Dell will run Windows 11. I will use a SpyderX Pro to do the calibration.
1.3.17 is the best. You can watch this ua-cam.com/video/xFeKEO8zFgU/v-deo.html
Sir i have a request. Can you please make a video about working colour gamut settings in Adobe Photoshop and Lightroom. Which working gamut will reproduce better quality prints. I'm referring ProPhoto RGB and Adobe RGB in Adobe Working Colour gamut and how to print it and what difference does it have in colour and quality with hardware calibrated monitor and printer. Looking forward to see a video about it.
Lightroom there's not much point talking about it, it does everything on its own. Photoshop color setting video is in the works. Still doing testing.
@@ArtIsRight eagerly waiting for it.
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Great great video man!!! I am using monitor first time and I normally edited photos in laptop’s monitor. I got questions or asking help that’s (1) Do i have to calibrate monitor separately for website, general use or others used not for print? (2) or Can I use same I calibrated monitor for especially Print in website or general use? (3) Do I need change any settings in Lightroom Classic and Photoshop and Normally Lightroom and photoshop comes with Adobe RGB or Prophoto? If yes the how? (4) in Calibrate monitor my all raw photos look flat or very less contrast and less saturated? Do you have any Ideas? Do I separately calibrate Monitor for Print, website, social media, client delivery and other general use??? What is best Luminance value for website or general used if like calibrate monitor??? My picture looks less contrast and saturate means for me lifeless picture. Please if you help me it’s much a lot for me…
1) Do i have to calibrate monitor separately for website, general use or others used not for print?
- You can but that gets complicated. No need to. I don't and have not done that at all in my over 2 decades doing this...
(2) or Can I use same I calibrated monitor for especially Print in website or general use?
- I recommend this, keep it simple!
(3) Do I need change any settings in Lightroom Classic and Photoshop and Normally Lightroom and photoshop comes with Adobe RGB or Prophoto? If yes the how?
LR and LRC it is what it is, the app manages it all. PS yes there is a way to change this. I should make a video on this but have not yet. The beginning of this video will show you 1 method that you can use ua-cam.com/video/Gu1nqEf8vzg/v-deo.html
(4) in Calibrate monitor my all raw photos look flat or very less contrast and less saturated? Do you have any Ideas?
- You are seeing honestly what your images look like and it is is telling you that you need to push your editing further.
Do I separately calibrate Monitor for Print, website, social media, client delivery and other general use???
- like stated above... no
What is best Luminance value for website or general used if like calibrate monitor???
- Shoot for print value which can varies between 80-120 nits based on environment and taste.
My picture looks less contrast and saturate means for me lifeless picture.
- it is not lifeless. You rather have it be lifeless now then the display not telling you what your image actually looks like and have it be lifeless else where. Push hard on editing make if lively here and it will be lively else where.
Hi Art, thank you for these helpful guides!
This is my first time calibrating a monitor and i followed your guide exactly to calibrating my SW320.
As this is my first time i just wanted to ask, post calibration is the monitor suppose to look less bright and vibrant? (i used luminance value 80).
I did this as i want to use this profile to best match what i get on screen to paper print, and to my knowledge the luminance value is suppose to be low as paper is quite dull and not vibrant?
The screen however now does not look as attractive as if i had left it on adobe RGB color profile. This is normal right?
I'm using the i1display plus calibrator with the palette master element software.
Yes this is normal and this is part of the human calibration / readjustment. It also shows your the image as is so this is an opportunity to push image editing further.
Thanks for the video. I don't understand why the Panel Native RGB Primary is the best setting. If I edit photos in sRGB or Adobe RGB with Photoshop or Lightroom, shouldn't I choose the sRGB RGB Primary or the Adobe RGB RGB Primary? And what RGB Primary should I choose for Davinci Resolve right now?
REC 709 safest for Resolve. Others watch these ua-cam.com/video/a_poTYITdNQ/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/Gu1nqEf8vzg/v-deo.html
Hi Art, I am calibrating the sw321c for Davinci Resolve. I am using the BenQ to preview via the "clean feed" mode. So the monitor is hooked up as a secondary screen. I am wondering which PC color mode I am to use: 0-255 or 16-235?
I would use 0-255 or auto
Thank you for sharing your knowledge; one question though: I am running 1.3.14 - and can in regards to Blackpoint can only choose between a default of 0.5 nits or absolute zero. Is the 0.5 nits equivalent to Relative? Keep up the good work. My BenQ is a SW271_2.
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Hello Art. I loved the video and finally someone I believe. Excellent. I just signed up for a membership. I have a couple of important questions to ask you about my new macs. I am brand new to mac and always a windows user. I am a video editor and use Resolve and Premiere and also LRC and Photoshop. Just letting you know. Touch base soon.
Thank you and you can dm me on fb page or insta as well. It is quicker back and forth :)
Hi Art! Thanks so much for all the tutorials. I have the Spyder5Pro and BenQ SW2700PT monitor that I use with the new Mac Studio M1 Max and have been running some calibrations. I've managed to get the colors very close to perfect but I can't seem to get the black levels as good as the default Adobe RGB colour profile. With the default Adobe RGB profile the colours are not as perfect but in this mode I can make out the difference of black levels all the way to 0 and 1(I have the brightness set to 20). When calibrated though (using 0.5 blackpoint, also tried 0.3) I can only make out the difference between 4 and 5. 1 to 3 are all black. I also tried calibrating with 0.8 but that didn't help. Any advice on how I could achieve the desired black levels? And another question should one be able to make out the difference in the highlights all the way to 255? I can only differentiate 233 but not further. I'm using Palette Master V1.3.17 and my monitor MFG is Jan 2018. Calibrating settings: D65, Panel Native, 2.2. Thank you!
That a side effect of the Spyder 5, black tones does not scale well. 0.8 would be a step in the right direction but that it may not be for the specific device. As far as white point, ideally you should be able to discern 250 and higher, so 233 is rather low. Remember that Spyder 5 is an older device with inferior sensor. I would consider upgrading to Calibrite ColorChecker Display Pro.
@@ArtIsRight Ok, that is excellent info. Sorry I mistyped the white point, I meant 253. I will check for a new calibration device. Thank you for your reply! :)
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@@ArtIsRight Hi art! I tried the i1Display Pro calibration device today to calibrate my display but unfortunately got the same results. The test validation is passed and I get great colors as with the Spider5 but the black level is again only visible to about 4 to 5. Exactly the same result as with the Spider5. I watched more of your videos and started thinking if the issue is with me connecting via HDMI? In one video you said the room ambient light shouldn't be an issue? Any other advice on how I could get better black levels? If not I'll just use the default Adobe RGB since that is pretty great already. Thank you!
If you can try display port I would do that, otherwise, it could be because of the HDMI RGB range.
Hello! Need help! :) I have a problem with calibration in Windows 10. My setup: monitor SW240 (it does not support HDR10, the HDMI port is only 1.4), I connect the HDMI 2.0 HDR wire, and graphic card is NVidia GTX 1050Ti. When calibrated via PME in SRGB, the monitor shows the correct colors, the interface in Windows is also displayed correctly, but if calibrated as Native Panel or AdobeRGB, the interface in Windows begins to be displayed incorrectly, namely, brighter than necessary, but at the same time in Adobe LR/PS and Chrome the colors are correct. On the MacBook M1 there are no problems with calibration in AdobeRGB, everything is displayed correctly. What could be the matter in Windows, why I can’t fully use AdobeRGB or NP calibration?
are you using icc profile v2 in windows? Also might just be best to stick with Adobe RGB. Can you use native display port to display port, if you can do that. HDMI contributing the issue as well
@@ArtIsRight Ok! I got it! I'll try to connect through display port and select the second profile. When I calibrate, I used 4. What is the difference between them by the way? Thanks for quick answer! All best.
lol nice technical video, i'm sys admin and hobby photographer and just bought as a second screen next to my gaming one a sw240 but damn I didn't know in what I was about to go trough. It's reallyh costly Benq send me to your vids and I never knew I needed to have a 300$ calibrator on top of the price of monitor. But really thank had to watch at least 6 vids to understand what was going on after I started working on photo and having different result on phone and my gaming screen. But thanks for the time you take to help us casual photographers.
Sure thing
I have gone through most all your videos and you are a sole user of the macbooks. I do not use a mac because my design work is with a built pc for photoshop. Now, I have use a top of the line nec for 10 years and have loved it. Calibrating has never, ever been an issue. So, it seems that you have all these different versions for different monitors and to date, after watching and listening to your videos, I still don't know what software to use for my ws240 that will arrive on Wednesday, tomorrow. There is a new version and then, there is this one. So what software shall I use for the sw 240 monitor? Please advise. If I can't get proper calibration, I must look at other monitors that will not be so hard to get answers . Next- I design from home, I prefer working with a built pc to work with an select my own hardware. I love mac's to play with and that's it. I can built my own pc's and I'm a woman. Now, you also talk about cable that are sent with monitor and I'm begining to realize that benQ only prefers laptop cables????? Many people use a pc. Question2_ What cable do I need to purchase? I have a display port I probable can use, I hope, but what about the calibrator. I have some usb3 and usb2 ports. No c ports because it's not a mac. Don't want to work on mac.
Please advise because I would like to setup tomorrow when it arrives. Calibration is mandatory for my ad my work. I will probably have to call BenQ because I couldn't fnd answers to these two questions. Please advise.
Thank you for all you hard work but I do believe you need to speak more about pc's. Not just laptops.
Thank you again,
Linda Weaver/
I do demo on PC as well but not as much, the process is the same really and this video also shows a demo on PC as well. Either way use Palette Master Element with SW240 Go to this link to download the latest version www.benq.com/en-us/support/downloads-faq/products/monitor/palette-master-element/software-driver.html Laptop and desktop cables are the same. On your PC depending on what display output you have I might try HDMI first and see if you can get it to pass calibration if yes then good, if not then choose to use display port (DP), you might have to buy a full size DP to DP. Eitherway, desktop or laptop, it does not matter. For the calibrator if you have one keep it, if you don't get Calibrite ColorChecker Display Pro or ColorChecker Display Plus these are great devices. And you can just plug those in the the regular USB. And the ports on the Mac and PC are technically the same and as well as Laptop vs Desktop, no need for distinction really, some minor variation but that is a given. You don't have to be on a Mac to get this done. Or call BenQ, they will tell you what I told you.
Hi Art,
thanks for the great guide. I just got a Benq sw270c and still got one question. There are multiple colormodes e.g. Adobe RGB, sRGB and red.709; In what color mode should I put the monitor if I want to switch between sRGB and red.709? Should I Create two ICC profiles on one Color Mode? Or should I create a sRGB profile on the sRGB Color Mode and the rec709 on the rec709 color mode?
Thanks for the help!
For the best result don't use the build in color mode, those are factory calibration and they are there for reference only. What you want to do is calibrate the SW270C with PME.
Using this guide ua-cam.com/video/8rjRoIe0-mo/v-deo.html
And if you have updated PME to 1.3.12 then this supplemental video will help too ua-cam.com/video/FavBEirURKw/v-deo.html
@@ArtIsRight Thank you so much! It's a bit confusing at the beginning :) ... I will totally recommend you!
Thanks, it can be if this is the first few times you are trying to use the program. Lots of ground to cover, especially if you have not done it before. But once you get the hang of it, the information at the beginning is extremely valuable and provides a crucial foundation to the overall calibration process.
Hi Art. Question for you on MacOS. Once I complete the calibration do I need to go into the ColorSync utility and apply that LUT to the monitor? (SW270C)? I ask because I did a calibration and then a validation and the validation failed. On my PC, it worked perfectly. Thanks for your videos!
Intel or M1 Mac? For the most part you don't need go through that step. Validation fails is not usually related to profile but rather setting or software running on the computer.
Please answers these questions completely and we’ll go from here. I know some of them you have provided info already, but please fill it out again so that I have everything in one place. And we can just focus on the Mac.
* What computer (Laptop - Mac specify the model, year and size, Desktop, iMac, all in 1 PC, custom build, etc )
* What is your Operating System (OS) version are you using? (For Mac please specify the dot release, for Windows please specify version / build number)
* What calibrator are using?
* What version of PME are you using?
* What BenQ model do you have?
* What cable are you using to connect your BenQ to your computer for the display signal, HDMI, Display Port, etc.
* If you are using USB-C skip this question, if not, are you using a USB link cable between your laptop and display?
* If you are using Mac was this a clean install or was the OS upgraded from a previous version at any point (I.e. From Mojave 10.13.x to Catalina 10.14.x)? Or was this Mac restore from a back up, time machine or other wise?
* For PC, what GPU are you using? If Nvidia are you using their new Studio Driver?
* Were you able able to successfully pass the validation at some point
* For SW2700PT owner, look at the back of your display on the regular tag and give me the MFG date.
Hi, Art. Thank you for these videos. For my line of work (graphic design/online viewing), Is Native Panel still good for sRGB/graphic design workflows? Or should I go with sRGB. I'd imagine the best settings for the other two is still Relative Black and 16 Bit LUT. Thank you!
Just go panel native.
@@ArtIsRight Thank you very much for the response. I'll go with Panel Native, 16 Bit LUT, and Absolute Black since I'm using PME 1.3.16. Seems this one has no relative black setting.
Since pme 1.3.12 BenQ change relative to a value input. For the most part I recommend 0.3
@@ArtIsRight Thank you for taking the time to help me understand. 🙏
:)
Art. Thanks as always. Will be setting up a new SW270c next week in conjunction with 2017 13" MacBook Pro Mojave 10.14.6(though will probably update to Catalina within a few months)using the i1 Display Pro. Would you stick with Palette Master Element 1.3.10 as it looks to be most stable vs.1.3.8 as you can use 16 bit Lut when calibrating which is a fine feature of this monitor. Also which video of yours would be the best specifically with my setup. Most users would prefer to calibrate with panel native and 16 bit Lut one day to really zero in on what capabilities this monitor has to offer. Have a great week.
This is probably the best video, just substitute in the equipment that you have and the settings that you choose to use and yes Panel Native is best. If you want to watch a specific video you can check this one out ua-cam.com/video/bz9y3db9vRI/v-deo.html
hi Art, I struggle getting a better calibration than the factory settings one. what colour profile shall I apply to the Benq SW270C BEFORE I start the Pallette Master? thanks a mil for your advice. (macbook pro, 2.3 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7, eGPU pro)
just leave it as is ua-cam.com/video/xywb1_vpQhI/v-deo.html
@@ArtIsRight thanks a mil Art
Just received my SW270C....Used Palette MAster Element 3.15...Calibrated to rec709 for video. Display is now all PINK!
Please answers these questions completely and we’ll go from here.
* What computer (Laptop - Mac specify the model, year and size, Desktop, iMac, all in 1 PC, custom build, etc )
* What is your Operating System (OS) version are you using? (For Mac please specify the dot release, for Windows please specify version / build number)
* What calibrator are using?
* What version of PME are you using?
* What BenQ model do you have?
* What cable are you using to connect your BenQ to your computer for the display signal, HDMI, Display Port, etc.
* If you are using USB-C skip this question, if not, are you using a USB link cable between your laptop and display?
* If you are using Mac was this a clean install or was the OS upgraded from a previous version at any point (I.e. From Mojave 10.13.x to Catalina 10.14.x)? Or was this Mac restore from a back up, time machine or other wise?
* For PC, what GPU are you using? If Nvidia are you using their new Studio Driver?
* Were you able able to successfully pass the validation at some point
What is the difference between using Matrix and 16 bit LUT. I have the SW2700 mfg. November 2016. I am using 1.3.11, but after the video I may go back to .10. I have noticed that it will calibrate in Adobe RBG, but the Delta E is higher than if I calibrate in Panel Native. Would Panel Native be a better choice given I can use both?
Thanks Art! I really enjoy your videos.
Mike Deal
Panel Native is best especially if you don't use resolved. In my test I exclusively test Panel native and this video will explain the different type of icc profile build ua-cam.com/video/qClq331WT3E/v-deo.html
Hi Art! I have a question and I am hoping you can help me figure it out. I got a Blackmagic Design Ultrastudio Monitor 3G. I was wondering what the best way of calibrating the BenQ SW2700PT would be for working within Davinci Resolve on a 16 inch 2019 Macbook Pro. I don't think Palette Master Element works with the Ultrastudio, right? Should I use DisplayCal with Davinci Resolve through the ultrastudio (TB3 input - HDMI output) to calibrate the monitor or use Palette Master Element to do a hardware calibration with the monitor connected via a usb-C to display port cable? Thank you! Alex.
Use PME to calibrate your SW, video setting is REC 709, D65, Gamma 2.4, relative black, Matrix LUT type, large patches. And you should be set
@@ArtIsRight Thanks! Trying it now.
@@ArtIsRight In the PME I only get Panel Native and my SW2700PT is manufactured in March 2016 / version 00-132-BA. Do you know why that is? Thanks!
That is normal for the SW manufacture 2016 and before.
@@ArtIsRight anything I can do to calibrate it to Rec709? 🤷🏻♂️
If I choose the REC709 preset and start the palette master calibration, does it recalibrate the preset or does it make a custom setting? And once in Resolve do I have to run a calibration from within resolve again to get the accurate colors that resolve is producing or not?
separate, the calibration would get stored in Calibration 1, 2 or 3 slot. No need to do anything in resolve.
Should I be calibrating with Palette Master INSTEAD OF the i1 profiler software that came with my i1 Display Pro?? Or in addition to it?
Palette Master Element instead of.
Hi Art. I followed your walkthrough and was able to get a good validation pass. My question is, why are we not able to change the brightness on a calibrated profile? Is there a way to change the brightness, or can we control how bright the finished calibrated profile will be?
Hardware calibration (HWC) = fixed brightness for best and optimal outcome. if they allowed you to change the brightness, technically you would need to accompany that with a different icc profile and calibration since at every luminance point the specific colors being measured would change in output.
You can't change HWC brightness, what you can do is calibrate 1 slot to a brightness value and use the other slot to set a difference luminance value. Outlined here ua-cam.com/video/Cgo2p7jF3n0/v-deo.html
Art, I am having trouble running a calibration on a BenQ SW2700PT (May 2016 mfg) using PME and an i1 Studio spectrophotometer with a MacBookPro running Big Sur. Which PME version should I be using and can you please provide a link as I only see 1.3.16 now on the site. Also, any comments on how this combination will run with Monterrey would be appreciated. Thanks Dave
Links in the description here ua-cam.com/video/wV_FGFrovDA/v-deo.html I make PME video update so it is always good to watch those and use 1.3.15.
which calibrator do you recommend for the SW270c monitor with Mac OS 10.15. ? on the site it says that some are not compatible ... my monitor arrives on Monday and I would like to buy the probe, which you advise me without having problems with MAC 10.15 and later. Thanks in advance
X-Rite i1Display Pro or Pro Plus, if you live in the US reach out to me for a 10% off discount code when you buy from Xritephoto.com
@@ArtIsRight Thank you 🙏
:)
What is the sRGB gamma selection used for? Should i use this when calibrating for sRGB or stick with 2.2?
It is a slightly different tracking curve. You should just stick with 2.2
Hi,
I have a Benq sw 270C monitor, I calibrate it with an X-rite display pro. Most of the time I work on the web, so I set srgb as my primary setting. What I do with the calibration: srgb, 6500k, luminance: 140, Black point: 0.3. profile v2, 16bit lut path size large. And the result is a darker screen, white rather than white is more gray. The colors are perfect anyway. In this case, should the color management in the windows remain the calibrated icc profile and the monitor on calibration 1? or switch to factory default setting on the monitor? (what if you went to calibration 2 in an adobe rgb mode, do i always have to change the windows color management icc?)
I read all and reply to most comments so one would be suffice, please see the answer in the other comment thread.
Phew! Thanks to your awesome videos and recent advice about calibrators, I got my new SW270c to pass validation in PME. It took a few tries; I had to use PME 1.3.16 (no luck with 15) and factory reset my monitor. Now I've got a panel native calibration set to button 1 on the puck, at luminance of 90. For button 2, I'd like to have a setting that allows me to preview what my images will look like to other people when viewing on the web, and for general office work. Should I just leave it on the factory sRGB setting so I can adjust the brightness? Or calibrate using sRGB at a higher luminance than my panel native? I'm hoping to leave button 3 for BW.
You can choose either option. Just know that if you want the more precise color possible then custom calibrate and when you switch the color mode you have to change the icc profile on the system and then quit and relaunch the program to get precise results. Watch this for more info ua-cam.com/video/Cgo2p7jF3n0/v-deo.html and if you understand this concept then you really don't need to do the color mode switching ua-cam.com/video/Gu1nqEf8vzg/v-deo.html
@@ArtIsRight awesome, thanks. I'll watch these now. Loving your content!
Wow I had no idea you need to switch the profile in the OS when switching the color space. I think I'll just stick with panel native.
Sounds good!
Art, newbie question here: does the palette master program used for color calibration run through the computer's graphics card? And does this impact the signals being used for calibration? I bypass my graphics card using a video interface to feed a clean signal directly into my reference monitor for color grading, and I'm worried that the palette master software calibration program will be skewed by its test signals being processed through the computer's graphics card, if that is indeed what's happening. I'm new to this, so I'm just trying to think through the signal flow, but I could be conceptualizing the situation incorrectly. Your guidance is much appreciated.
does the palette master program used for color calibration run through the computer's graphics card?
Yes like any other computer graphic output, no in a sense that it does not control the video card whatsoever.
And does this impact the signals being used for calibration?
No
I bypass my graphics card using a video interface to feed a clean signal directly into my reference monitor for color grading, and I'm worried that the palette master software calibration program will be skewed by its test signals being processed through the computer's graphics card, if that is indeed what's happening.
For this what you should is run a hardware calibration with PME using REC 709 with the brightness and gamma setting that you want without the video interface box. Once you are done with the calibration then put the video interface in.
@@ArtIsRight thank you for your quick reply, art! This is what I have done. Out of curiosity, why do you suggest bypassing the video interface (which is a blackmagicdesign ultrastudio monitor 3G) for calibration?
By pass only on the initial calibration, my understand is that PME won't work well the video interface and will cause calibration issues.
Hi! I intend to buy a SW240. It has 14bit LUT. You did recomended to set the value in Palette Master Element to 16bit LUT. It will work fine or will be a confrlict? Thank you!
Those are totally 2 different things ua-cam.com/video/qClq331WT3E/v-deo.html
@@ArtIsRight Thank you! I bought the monitor, all works fine. I have a question: does the panel has a protected pvc foil or not? I am afraid to try to scratch it. Thank you!
I think you are talking about what looks like a screen protector, it is not, that is part of the front panel lamination and should not be peeled off. Otherwise you'll damage the display.
@@ArtIsRight Thank you!
Hi Art! I just bought a SW271C + Mac Studio M1 Max with Ventura 13.0.1. I’ve disabled all MacOS settings affecting calibration such True Color, Night Shift etc. I understand that after calibration PME will have set brightness to the desired value (80, 100, 120 cd) regardless the monitor menu value. But I am a bit worried about what about if later on I accidentally change the brightness for instance through the hotkey puck dial? Many thanks!
Hotkey puck brightness adjustment is automatically disabled in hardware calibration mode. Let me know if your calibration with PME passes.
@@ArtIsRight Hi Art. Calibration passed! These are my settings: Mac Studio M1 Max, MacOS Ventura 13.1, PME 1.3.18 and x-rite 1Display Pro. And the calibration results for a target luminance of 120 cd/m2: Measured average AE 1.00, measured maximum AE 2.44, Color temperature 6535K, Black point 0.18 nits. I will calibrate again to 80 or 100 cd to see the difference and choose the one that fits better for my workflow. Thanks!
Hi Art,
I have followed all the required steps to calibrate my SW270C and so far everything’s great.
I do have one question though.
I work primarily with work to be consumed on the web and I mix between photography and video. So, I need both srgb and rec 709. What do you recommend in my situation?
Do I hardware calibrate for Native Panel to get the widest gamut and select srgb and rec 709 respectively on my monitor as I need it?
O do I do a separate hardware calibration for each use i.e. calibrate using Srgb gamma 2.2 in custom calibration 1 and Rec709 gamma 2.4 in custom calibration 2 and have separate icc profiles for both uses?
I am running a Macbook pro 2015 using a Usb-c to the display.
Hope you see this. And thank you in advance.
Do you grade with Resolve? If yes then REC 709, Gamma 2.4, D65, Relative Black. If not then a single calibration with sRGB would be fine. Unless you want a custom gamma of 2.4, to be honest a gamma of 2.2 vs 2.4 is really a slight different visually. And if you want to get the most out of the display and all of your programs are color aware, I would just calibrate your display to Panel Native.
Panel Native on BenQ SW is a slightly larger Adobe RGB. Since this color space is larger than sRGB and REC 709, if you are using a color aware program, Color Management Module, CMM, will do all of the color translation in the background in realtime for you. So at any given point if you are viewing an image tagged with sRGB on a Panel Native calibration, you will be setting a translated sRGB image as it should look not Panel Native. This is the same for video as well, which is why it is not really necessary to calibrate the smaller color space. The exception of course being Resolved.
You can have 2 calibration with 2 separate icc profile, but I would just defer you to the paragraph above about cmm.
Hope this helps.
@@ArtIsRight this is perfect. Thanks Art.
I followed the steps you suggested using Panel Native and relying on CMM to do the conversions and a separate profile for Rec 709.
My only issue is I cant get the blacks distinct enough until the 9th one using your chart from the other video. Everything from 0 to 9 seems to blend on both Absolute and relative settings.. Any tips for this?
Not much that I can comment on about the blacks, I know that with relative the tonal scaling is better than absolute, and for my calibration I was able to see a separation as low 1 and more distinctly at 2 or 3. What calibrator are you using? And let me do some more research on this.
@@ArtIsRight thanks for looking into it Art. I am using the Spyder5 with the Palette Master latest update. When calibrating I have the sw270c monitor hood on. Calbrated under room lighting, not sunlight.
If I have time, I will run a test with the Spyder 5 and get back with the result on my end.
I have the benq SW270c on windows 10 running Version: V1.3.15 What recommend settings do you have for that version? Thanks
ua-cam.com/video/eCOPETFhZlE/v-deo.html toward the end I have a setting guide
hi Art,
Do you have to unplug your other monitor when calibrating on windows. Inorder for pallet elements to calibrate . correctly. I have e recently brought a new sw2700 pt and can't get to pass. It gets worse each time. I have had delta e at 13 and even 18 when verification.i have tried everything on your videos. Called BenQ still can't get the monitor to calibrate. Now I get the message that there may be a conflict with a background app. Only thing in the background running is adobe.
Kerwin
Hi Kerwin, if you have Facebook add my page and message me there. Either way, I'm going to need answers these questions for me and we’ll go from here.
1. What computer (Laptop - Mac specify the model, year and size, Desktop, iMac, all in 1 PC, custom build, etc )
2. What is your Operating System (OS) version are you using? (For Mac please specify the dot release, for Windows please specify version / build number)
3. What calibrator are using?
4. What version of PME are you using?
5. What BenQ model do you have?
6. What cable are you using to connect your BenQ to your computer for the display signal, HDMI, Display Port, etc.
7. If you are using USB-C skip this question, if not, are you using a USB link cable between your laptop and display?
8. If you are using Mac was this a clean install or was the OS upgraded from a previous version at any point (I.e. From Mojave 10.13.x to Catalina 10.14.x)? Or was this Mac restore from a back up, time machine or other wise?
9. For PC, what GPU are you using? If Nvidia are you using their new Studio Driver?
10. Were you able able to successfully pass the validation at some point?
@@ArtIsRight thanks will.do
Hi Art, your videos have got me a long way, but with the X-Rite i1 Display Pro, Palette Master 3.10, and SW2700PT, I still haven't got a passing validation. The average Delta E does pass, but one or two shades of gray register at about 4.69 or so. I've tried both the Panel Native, 16-bit Lut, relative black (all the other settings as recommended and Kelvin always does test close to 6500), and also the safe settings: Abobe RGB, matrix, relative black. I'm using an Asus Vivobook 15 with AMD graphics, which by what I've read, doesn't have the 160-235 limitation. Am using an HDMI cable, since the laptop has no USB-C with display signal. Did try absolute black at least once. Do you have any idea what might be the problem? I did upload the drivers form BenQ. Thanks.
Can you give me the specific model of your laptop? It should be on the bottom of the machine.
@@ArtIsRight Believe it is a F512DA. I did get a passing validation tonight, but still, the high marks of 2.97 and 3.03 are just a little concerning. I am aware, as you say, that photography is art not science, and things tend to miss the ideal mark, but if there's anything I can learn from you, I'm happy to hear it. Thanks again. Very helpful!
Does your computer has an AMD integrated graphics? With AMD Drivers are you running? What are the settings that can be adjusted in that driver. If you can let know what driver and version you are using that would be great.
@@ArtIsRight Art, I think I will have to wait until my son comes home for Thanksgiving for that, unless I figure something out online. Is AMD. Thanks for the clue.
@@ArtIsRight I do have a further question. From the system menu on the SW2700, should I select 0-255, thus countervailing a 16-235 default setting? Should I have done that before calibrating with the X-Rite, or do I simply select "Calibration 1" elsewhere from the system settings and it's ready to go, calibrated at the full 0-255 (since I have AMD graphics)? Is finding the calibration setting and selecting for it difficult to do?
I ran through all of the calibration settings and instructions like you said. I am using a Spyder 4. Everything works great- but validation "report summary" failed. What should I do?
Please answers these questions completely and we’ll go from here.
* What computer (Laptop - Mac specify the model, year and size, Desktop, iMac, all in 1 PC, custom build, etc )
* What is your Operating System (OS) version are you using? (For Mac please specify the dot release, for Windows please specify version / build number)
* What calibrator are using?
* What version of PME are you using?
* What BenQ model do you have?
* Is this the only display linked up to the system?
* What cable are you using to connect your BenQ to your computer for the display signal, HDMI, Display Port, etc.
* If you are using USB-C skip this question, if not, are you using a USB link cable between your laptop and display?
* If you are using Mac was this a clean install or was the OS upgraded from a previous version at any point (I.e. From Mojave 10.13.x to Catalina 10.14.x)? Or was this Mac restore from a back up, time machine or other wise?
* For PC, what GPU are you using? If Nvidia are you using their new Studio Driver?
* Were you able able to successfully pass the validation at some point
* For SW2700PT owner, look at the back of your display on the regular tag and give me the MFG date.
* Have you installed DisplayCal at some point?
* Do you know of any color calibration software that starts with the OS and is running in the background?
Thanks for your great videos - they helped me a lot!
I have questions concerning Windows and Benq SW2700PT.
1) When doing calibration with PME profiles are written in the monitor hardware. Should we remove any profiles from the windows settings?
2) If for example I use calibration slot 1 for photography and printing and calibration slot 2 for video should I rely on the fabric presets (ADOBE RGB, sRGB and Black and White) and is there any way to calibrate them also or it's best to stick to the custom profiles only?
3) What are the target luminance levels when calibrating for resolve rec 709?
Thanks in advance for the answers!
1. don't worry about windows profile, you will still need to use one as well.
2. ua-cam.com/video/Ipuaf5yHrog/v-deo.html this video will explain all of this to you. TL;DR, don't worry about the factory calibrated modes. If you want to calibrate it you can, you would be doing a software calibration on it using the calibration device software, but there's really no point to it, the custom hardware calibration is the better calibration process.
3. 80-120 nits to taste for Rec 709
@@ArtIsRight Thank you for your prompt answer- much appreciated. At the moment in windows I have custom icc profile from xrite callibration software. Should i leave it like that or change to something generic.
Just leave it, before you use any calibration program, the profile get zero out by the respective program.
@@ArtIsRight Thank you. Now I'm encountering same issue over and over. I've tried to calibrate my SW2700PT with pme v13 and v12 with xrite 1 display pro using native gamut and 16bit lut and the software hangs on measuring 0%, just after the lut has been written. I've connected the display with usb c, and the xrite colorimeter is connected via the screen usb. When PME starts, it recognises the display and the 1 display pro. But it just won't start measuring...
Tell me all of the cables and any adapter or adaptations on either end of all the cables that you are using.
I have a Benq SW 240 monitor and calibrate the monitor using Pallette Master Element and Spyder X. Should I reset the monitor to factory set values before calibration? I choose the brightness level of 80 nits in the Palette Master Element while calibrating. What brightness level should I set the monitor to ( from the drop down menu on the monitor) after the calibration?
This video explains it all ua-cam.com/video/xywb1_vpQhI/v-deo.html but in short just leave everything as is and PME will take care of the rest.
@@ArtIsRight I have had a look at the video. This explains very succinctly. Thank you very much for the advice.
I am an amatuer photographer and am using Capture One 23 software for editing using my Benq SW 240 monitor. Your uploads on your channel are very useful. Please keep up the good work.👍
I don't have panel native on version 1.3.8 calibrating the sw271. Should I use Photographer (AdobeRGB)?
in the same setting screen look in the middle under RGB primary Panel Native is there. Also make sure that you are in advanced mode.
Hi @ArtIsRight,
Two questions
1) I've just bought the SW721 - and I'm learning to optimise the coolers. My primary monitor before this is an Eizo CG234W. The calibration software for this monitor is no longer updated for OS - therefore I'm calibrating this monitor with the standard Datacolor software and the SpyderX. And now - the question: Can I keep the Datacolor software on my computer for calibrating the Eizo - and still do a correct and independant calibration of the SW721 using the Palette Master Element software? Or will the Datacolor Software disrupt the PME calibration?
2) In one of your videos you mentioned an issue about an unwanted orange toning on the BenQ-screens after calibrating - and how to work around this. I've not been able to find this video. Could you please send me the link for the video presenting the solution on this issue?
Thanks for your elaborating and solid videos!
Kind Regards
Jacob
DatacolorSoftware = Spyder X Elite
1. As long as the Spyder Software does not start up with the system you are fine. PC ua-cam.com/video/PDoDwMIFpeM/v-deo.html Mac ua-cam.com/video/WECg_yYBlpU/v-deo.html
2. I think that was related to under certain RGB Primary selection the red would look orange, That is an issue in .8 and have not been an issue for the past 5 versions
@@ArtIsRight Thanks very much for your swift reply. This did make a difference. Though - Still I think the calibrated BenQ display looks somewhat warmer (less bluish) than expected - compared to display with it's own standard setting and my Eizo calibrated with the SpyderX Elite.
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Hi. First of all, thank you for your videos - really helpful to set up my new SW270C, I'm interested in the reasons for using a luminance of 80 here, as you previously used 120. When I set up my old NEC Multisync with IProfiler, I used 80. As I recall, I read an article that said if you are working in a dimly lit room (which I am) , you should use 80 rather than 120, is that the case?
I did run Pallette Master using the best settings and a luminance of 120, and I got a validation where the highest delta E was 1.1 I think. Just interested to know what your opinion on luminance values was. Thanks again.
In most of my videos, I recommend a luminance range between 80-120. My personal number is 80 nits all the time for my own calibration. 120 was used for demo purposes only. Regardless of the lighting in the room I always calibrate mine to 80 nits. But this range works well for all type of work which is why I recommend it. 80 is too dim for some while 120 is still too bright for others. Your ∆E value is great! Have fun editing.
@@ArtIsRight thanks, perhaps I'll try a lower luminance, as I did find the monitor to be quite bright compared to what I was used to using. Perhaps assessing this page
www.drycreekphoto.com/Learn/Calibration/monitor_sensitivity.html
at different luminance values - would provide the sweet spot ?
That is a good test chart but what the lab is asking anyone to do with the chart on the display is somewhat arbitrary. The white that you may not see in the first few spots is not necessary a brightness issues, it can be but 9 times out of 10 it is not. It has more to do with gamma and contrast set on the display. Gamma is a function of the calibrate and yes the default at 2.2 is the best for photography work. I would not use the chart to determined brightness of the display. So like I said before I set my display to 80 nits and it has been matching prints just fine. This brightness value is not absolute either, it would mostly depend on the printing that you do, choosing a value based on others may not produce the best result with your work. This is the fine tuned part.
I've tried different luminance values and I've found that setting a higher value misleads the eye and results in prints that are too dark. For the same reason, I generally work on a light background in Photoshop as a darker value makes the image look brighter and again results in prints that are too dark.
Perception can change the way how an image look. Additionally, if you calibrate it brighter, it does play with your eyes but more so what you are seeing on the display at higher luminance value is just simply brighter than a printed image.
Hi Art. I have been digging the content and have found your videos very helpful for my own BenQ screen. I have a question about colour profile mismatch between Adobe Photoshop 20.2 and Adobe Camera Raw 12.3. I had this issue a while back but adobe seemed to have sorted it, but the issue seems to be back! I am finding my image is looking more saturated and higher contrast when i open the same image in Camera Raw compared to the image in the main space of Photoshop. I have read that Camera Raw uses a different colour profile linked directly to the hardware of the screen? Have you heard about this and do you have an answer for how to correct it? Maybe you have touched on this already but I'd love to hear your thoughts. Its incredibly frustrating as I basically cant edit in ACR as it currently stands. Thanks again. Simon
Which BenQ SW model do you own and what PME software version are you using? What is your current RGB Primary calibration now? And are you on Mac or PC?
@@ArtIsRight BenQ SW321C. Running off a Macbook Pro 16" (2019), PME 1.3.8 (found newer versions were not giving me a pass). D65, Abobe 98, L100, G22, Relative. I did an initial calibration back in March 2020 and was fine. So i dont know if its an update from Apple or PME thats making it go wacky?
So if you stick with .8 You should calibrate with the following setting to avoid the color shift. Panel Native, L100, G22, Relative and choose 16 BIT LUT or Matrix whichever one gives you a better ∆E result. The key with .8 is to use Panel Native. I would recommend that you try out .10 if you are going to use Adobe RGB as the primary. For reference Panel Native is a slightly larger Adobe RGB color gamut.
@@ArtIsRight So i tried .10 and .11 but my calibration for the REDs was failing massively the ∆E was like 14+ every time, so going back to .8 seemed to sort it. Is there a reason why the red is failing so bad? i will try out these settings this weekend. I did find Panel Native was failing too. I seem to have many failings :(
I wonder if this is a video you could cover in the future, specifically with photoshop specs. thanks again
I have a photoshop color setting video planned not sure about the release date yet.
Check out my recommended setting for Palette Master Element 1.3.12 here ua-cam.com/video/FavBEirURKw/v-deo.html
Hi Art,
I calibrated my SW270C monitor with PME 1.3.16 (couldn't find a download for 1.3.15 for Windows). I used all the settings you recommended in your Ultimate Guide/updated Best settings (White Point: D65, RGB Primary: Panel Native, Luminance 80, Gamma: 2.2, Black Point: 0.3 nits, Profile Version: v2, 16 Bit LUT, Large).
When I last calibrated the monitor (a long time ago) it showed the brightness of the monitor fixed at 39, this time it's fixed at 22, however, it seems a bit brighter than it was before!
I just wondered if you knew what the reason for this might be? The only differences are that I used black point 0.3 nits instead of relative, PME 1.3.16 instead of PME 1.3.10 and I ran the software from my new PC instead of my laptop.
Thank you!
Are you talking about the number on the display menu, if so when you are in calibration color mode it should be grayed out. If you set the luminance to 80, check and see the calibration and validation report, it should tell you the display brightness in cd/m^2 which is the most accurate.
Thanks for the helpful videos. I realize this is old, but can you explain the relationship between the Windows ICC profile (the one selected in Windows Color Management) and the hardware calibration? Specifically, (1) what should the Windows ICC profile be set to when performing the calibration and (2) once the calibration is complete, PM creates a new Windows ICC profile in addition to the hardware LUT profile... do we need to select both the Windows profile and the hardware profile? I switch between profiles for sRGB and AdobeRGB, so I have two hardware LUT profiles and two Windows profiles. Thanks!
1. before leave it as is, after the Calibration software should automatically set the icc. If not choose the one that the app generate.
2. Yes the icc and hardware calibration slots has to mach.
If you have a compatible display use Palette Master Ultimate because it has icc sync, so when you switch mode the icc with sync automatically
Hi Art, I've been trying to run calibration on a newly purchased SW2700PT with the i1 Display pro. I've tried a variety of your recommended settings with PME 1.3.11 and my validation keeps failing.
I'm running on PC with a DVI cable connected to an NVIDIA GTX 970. The colorimeter is plugged into the monitor USB. I get delta E values ranging from 4-9 or so. Any suggestions?
I had the same problem with my SW2700PT. I saw a video from Art where he suggested going back to the previous version (1.3.10) because of a bug in 1.3.11. I followed his advise and have been calibrating with no problems at all. Hope this helps.
@@Juswinn any suggestions on where to get 1.3.10? I couldn't find older versions on BenQ's site.
I just posted a comment with links to download these previous versions. It is pinned to the top. If you are having issues with DVI cable, you might want to consider trying another connector type as well, but I would first down grade to .10
I have one doubt. I have a Benq SW 240C momitor. I have set the monitor to brightness level of 55 as indicated in the menu. While calibrating the monitor with Spyder X colorimeter and Palette Master Element, I set the brightness to 80 nits. In the light of this, what brightness setting should I set the monitor to? Or, does this matter ( display brightness on the monitor) if set the brightness to 80 nits in the Palette Mmaster Element at the time of calibration? Will this affecft my editing of the photos. ( I use Capture One 22 Pro).
If you calibrate with Palette Master Element then you don't have to worry about the brightness level set on the display. PME will handle all of it.
@@ArtIsRight Thank you so much for the advice.
Hi, do you definitely need a calibrating device to calibrate a SW series Hardware calibrated monitor. I'm looking to pick a SW240 given my budget, do i need to run a calibration only using a device.
Yes you do need a device. Recommend X-Rite / Calibrite Devices, make sure to get the compatible one.
@@ArtIsRight Is DATACOLOR SPYDERX PRO COLORIMETER compatible with Palette Master Element
Yes if you have one already you can use that, but if you don't get an X-Rite /Calibrite Device they are better.
@@ArtIsRight thank-you, just got a sw240, buying a xrite instead of Spyder x Pro will be heavy for me now, will a uncalibrated display hv huge variations though it is said to be factory calibrated
Somewhat because it is not paired with your video output. If you can get a Spyder X for cheaper then just get that. It is better to calibrate than not.
If I am doing a calibration for a sRGB profile what luminance and gamma settings should I use? Currently on V1.3.16
Same as panel native or Adobe RGB, watch this video for guide ua-cam.com/video/wV_FGFrovDA/v-deo.html
Hi Art. Thanks again for another informative video. I was just wondering what the rationale is for setting the black point to relative and are there any situations where absolute might be preferred ?
From my testing Relative tend to scale and preserve black tones better while absolute have a tendency to crush them.
@@ArtIsRight Thanks Art :)
You're welcome.
Hi! Is there a way to color calibrate the GW2480? or is Palette Master Element only available for selected Benq monitors? Thanks so much
For that you would have to use either an X-Rite or data color device, similar to this guide ua-cam.com/video/h_TT9O2I1b4/v-deo.html
@@ArtIsRight Thank you so much!
:)
I can't seem to find any information about screen brightness settings prior to calibration. Do you know what it should be set at before I run the calibration?
Just leave it, it does not matter. PME puts the display into Calibration Color and do all of the adjustment after.
Art Good Day. Thanks for the Panel Native clarification. As mentioned I will be calibrating SW270C in combination with 2017 Mac Book Pro Mojave and i1 Display Pro.
Is it worth it to download 1.3.8 (for its 16 bit lut capability but only able to use Panel Native otherwise color shift bug in Lightroom ) or 1.3.10 (only able to choose Matrix but a bit more flexibility). I guess my question is there a huge difference between 16 bit lut and Matrix. My gut would be to use the more stable version 1.3.10. Appreciate your helping to clarify for the less experienced who are trying to learn properly, As this will be my maiden voyage in calibrating this fine monitor I would like to get it right the first time.. Thanks.
Stick with .10 you'll be good. Matrix vs 3D lut is usually imperceptible.
@@ArtIsRight Art, you are so quick. I know i will have more "beginner questions" down the line. Great to have your support. Best..
:)
I just borrow myself a MAC and tried calibrating my SW2700PT on it. After calibrating the display profile is set to /tmp../RDC_begin on latest driver which I find strange. This can't be right, am I right? So I went in to /Users/User/ColorSync/Profiles/Dispaly and set the latest saved from Pallette Master. I guess I also have to manually change this if I got multiple calibrations as I had to do in Windows, ex if I have a Native and sRGB calibration saved?
Watch this ua-cam.com/video/xywb1_vpQhI/v-deo.html What you are seeing is correct and you should not change it, it is the linear profile pre calibration.
Thank you Art for another excellent video; always very much appreciated.
Thank you! Cheers!
My SW270C has the sRGB and Adobe RGB modes from the factory. But when I calibrate my display with PME at the standard "Web Design" sRGB setting, it saves the calibration into the slot named "Calibration 1", not into the "sRGB" slot. It also produces some icc profile for my OS. Applying this profile does not seem to do anything on my Windows 10. Neither does applying other profiles.
I am confused.
As far as I understand, over time displays develop some shift in colors, and regular recalibration ensures we correct for these shifts. But if the calibration is saved into "Calibration 1", that means that the factory sRGB mode stays uncorrected, and over time it becomes more and more incorrect?
This video will help explain why ua-cam.com/video/Ipuaf5yHrog/v-deo.html but TLDR version of it is that if you custom calibration then that won't be an issue, since the calibration would accommodate for the shift over time. These newer LED backlight, don't shift very much if at all, so you should be good for quite sometime. The preset color mode are lock once the display left the factory there's no adjusting them. Which is why there are 3 calibration slots on your displays, these are writable LUT slots so that PME can write the setting to the display, this is regardless of the RGB Primary that you choose during calibration. And since you custom calibration those preset modes are of no consequences to you.
Now moving to Windows 10, it does not color manage at the OS Level, and yes you do choose a profile but that profile is really not for the OS, but more so for the programs that uses color management so that they know which profile to use. Because of this, when changing profile you might not see a difference at all. In addition PME generated profile only contained color gamut info and no color remapping which also reemphasize why there are no color changes when you change profile. Hope this helps
I have SWC 240 C monitor. I have been calibrating the monitor using Spyder X. My doubt is whether I need to calibrate the software as well as hardware. i.e., the display card (my laptop has NVIDIA dispay care) as well as the hardware in the monitor. Please clarify.
are you using Palette Master Element? if so, you are doing a hardware calibration and you are fine. video card don't get calibrated.
@@ArtIsRight Thank you so much. Yes, I am using Palette Master.
Hi Art - I am using a MacBook Pro 2019 with Catalina (10.15.3) and just got the i1Display Pro Plus to use with my Ben Q 2700PT and I got this error message upon opening my PME: "A connection to a BENQ display cannot be established. Please make sure the USB cable is connected and that the FTDI drivers are working." I have the monitor plugged into my computer via a USB-C Display port cable. I tried to look up how to get the FDTI driver working and was not able to find any good answers for my set-up. (One website said it won't work with Catalina) Any suggestions? (I do not even really understand what an FDTI driver is!) Thanks!
ua-cam.com/video/OVml8PQ4F2g/v-deo.html That USB C adapter you are using only carry display signal you need to use the USB A to USB B uplink with a dongle or you can get this cable and forgo a dongle www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07W81GXV9/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
@@ArtIsRight ah - I see from the video that I need both cables! You are also right about using up most of my ports!
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Hello, Relative Black is not an option in my PM Software. I have Absolute Black and a Nit Value. also i don't understand if i should use Native or SRGB. Occasionally edit photos an i want them to look correct online.
ua-cam.com/video/L91IFdTFaxE/v-deo.html
Thanks very much for your video, just calibrated for the first time and it all worked and was validated ok. A couple of questions though.
x-rite i1Display Pro / SW270C / WindowsPC / Panel Native setting / switched off all monitor auto light settings before calibrating.
1. The target temperature was 6500K yet the achieved temperature is 7221K (same result when I tried again) that's quite a large difference, will it make a significant difference to the viewed colours?
2. Once calibrated to "calibration1" slot, do the other color modes I then select (sRGB, AdobeRGB, DisplayP3) take their instructions from the new calibration settings which were saved to the "calibration1" slot?
Because after calibration, if I select the "calibration1" color mode, the colors are way too saturated overall to use as a reference for color-grading, they are completely over the top (especially the reds) But if I select the sRGB or DisplayP3 for instance, they look correct - more like as seen on all my other displays/phones/tablets. (And those three color modes/spaces now look slightly different after the calibration than what they did with the factory settings, although interestingly the sRGB selection looks different each time compared to if I calibrate specifically for sRGB rather than Panel Native)
1. That color temperature is much higher than I like, and on the border for margin of error. What video card are you using and what display cable are you using with it your computer and display? If Nvidia are you running on studio driver?
2. No factory calibration will remain the same ua-cam.com/video/Ipuaf5yHrog/v-deo.html
Something is going with the calibration, your delta e might pass but you are probably looking at something between 2 and 4 if I have to take a guess. Is this a desktop or laptop?
@@ArtIsRight 1. Sometimes it gets to as high as 7345K when I repeat a calibration. Nvidia RTX280Ti, Studio driver (March 2021) Displayport cable. I just updated the Nvidia drivers and now the calibration fails most times. Also the Luminance Target is 120 but now only achieves 88 -106? Is this a monitor issue or a xrite calibrator issue do you think? I have calibrated two other non-BenQ monitors with it (using Displaycal) and they work fine, looking very similar to each other - quite different from the BenQ which is oversaturated after calibration.
2. OK, thanks. It's a desktop PC used for graphic work. Not printing images out at this stage, mostly uploading to web (but the files need to be suitable for printing at some stage. Delta e is under 1 to under 2 when it passes or 4 - 5 when it fails.
I've now downloaded an earlier version of PME to see if that makes a difference. :)
OK, it's a complete mess now - I've been calibrating all afternoon and it PME fails every time even on your "safe" settings. Now the delta e gets as high as 12!
I calibrated another monitor using Displaycal (just to check the hardware) and delta e was below 1.5 and it all looks good.
This is a video card driver setting and OS issue, not related to any hardware. DisplayCal is probably the culprit here. Here are some videos that may help PC & Argyll CMS Driver issues ua-cam.com/video/oXF78siuXWA/v-deo.html
Here's another video that might help fix the issue as well.
ua-cam.com/video/PDoDwMIFpeM/v-deo.html
Also download and install this X-Rite device service as well
www.xrite.com/service-support/downloads/x/x-rite_device_services_v3_1_119_pc
You can try other versions of PME but .15 is stable in my testing.
tldr uninstall or take displaycal out from start up and running in the background. and check the driver for the X-Rite device.
Dso you have a full walkthroug with recommended settings for 1.3.15 2021? Am still not getting the verification needed and hope this new version will do this for me. Right now went back to default settings and dropped the exposure.
Thanks, Ted
You would have to use this video and piece it together with this video ua-cam.com/video/eCOPETFhZlE/v-deo.html
Hi Art, I don't understand why the i1Display Studio doesn't work with palette master element if it can be used to calibrate displays (which is what I want to use it for)? Is there a reason the software doesn't work with it? I don't suppose you'd know what other options I might have as I've already bought the i1Display Studio not realising it won't work! Thank you! Michael
It does not work because i1Display Studio is X-Rite entry calibration device and even-though it look similar to the pro one, i1Display Studio is software lock to i1Studio software only and X-Rite does not provide 3rd party developers with a Software Development Kit (SDK) for that specific device. The only option that you have really is to sell the i1Display Studio as used on Craigslist or Ebay and then get an i1Display Pro or Pro Plus. If you are still in the return windows then return it and get the pro.
@@ArtIsRight thanks for the reply and advice. Can I use the x-rite software (or DisplayCal software) to calibrate my SW270C if I can't return it?
You can but that is not really using the hardware calibration potential of the display.
@@ArtIsRight That is unfortunate, but it might depend on the extra expense for me to upgrade.
I've read that 'Software calibration has reduced colour depth. Hardware protects the monitor's original color gamut thanks to an internal LUT that doesn't truncate the color depth.'
I don't suppose you have a review or there's info anywhere that shows the potential real-world differences between software and hardware calibration on the monitor's color gamut? I'm just wondering how noticeable the difference might actually be in terms of viewing on the monitor, printing etc.
You can watch this ua-cam.com/video/9hVfwW9LK8E/v-deo.html that will cover the differences between Hardware and Software calibration. Visually, they will come close. How you get to the look and color that you are seeing is entirely different on HW vs SW calibration.
Hello Art, Just had a query .. I was planning to go for SW2700PT.. Alongside we are also planning to buy a central server with graphics card to manage our data for our entire office. The server company when asked, said there is no need for graphics card on individual PCs if there is one installed on the central as the server will handle the computing load.. But my question is whether the absence or presence of graphics card in the PC that this monitor is connected to will influence the colors on monitor.. We are into print design and accurate colors are the most important, the very reason for going with Benq Monitor.. Can you advise me on whether I should have the graphics card installed on my system , the individual PC or its ok if I have one on the central server.
If you have individual PC, those PC would contain a GPU of some sort no doubt. If you do print design, I am not sure why having a server with a strong GPU will help you. It does not make sense, I deploy and consult for pro setup and that is not something that I would advise. The only time where that make sense is that your server is a rendering farm and is constantly working footage. If that is not the case then putting the good GPU in the server is not useful. For the individual PC you can run on the integrated GPU and get decent result but if it is an intel integrated GPU then you are only going to be getting 8 bit color output. To get 10 bit you need a dedicated GPU such as the Nvidia and you have to use their studio driver. If you can tell me more what your server does this would help. From what you are telling me and what you described you do, it seems that the primary function of your server is for file storage, to which I would forego the video card on that system and install them in the work station. If you like to consult further with me, you may. You can reach out to me on Facebook or instagram as well as email.
@@ArtIsRight Thanks a lot. Yes, the Primary function of the server is the file storage and management. But they suggested that all the stations can connect remotely from that server i.e say 4 pcs connected to server and thus using the server resources, the PC would just be acting as a User Interface. Would this affect the color on the display. This was scenario 1 however. The Scenario 2 would be just buying a NAS ( Network Access Storage) and then buying 4 high end workstations with GPU alongside other high end components. Which one would you suggest ?
So this sounds like you are using remote session on the server to pool the resources, the thing is that the individual thin machine as I'll call your work station setup still needs to be individually calibrated. The question is are you using Windows Server and doing a remote session in using Remote Desktop or remote login and running the software on the server or just the local machine. Either way you still need to calibrate the local display on each thin machine individually, the how depends on the setup. I think the company that you are working with is, like many company are great at computer, but does not understand the need of creative. Personally I would recommend a NAS, if you do video you want more power on each machine, server will quickly choke with video rendering and slow down the entire team. With a NAS I would use a 10 Gbe networking on both Nas and user machine and get a more powerful work station. What type of creative work does your company do? I can answer your questions better understanding this.
@@ArtIsRight We are into print and packaging design.
Got it, then I see very little point having a server to do the work the latency alone would just make the work difficult.
dumb question: do i need to install the i1PRO software if I'm using palette master?
Nope, and not a dumb question, a valid one 👍🏼
Hi Art; I now have my new SW240 & i1 Display Pro; have also downloaded PME 1.3.8, 1.3.10 and X-Rite 3.3.0 software. I'm getting ready to connect SW240 up to my Win 7 PC via second DVI port and will connect X-Rite to a PC USB port, not the monitor, after I run the 3.3.0 setup file. A couple more queries on the correct order to do things if I may:
1. Do I have to connect the USB cable to the monitor if I have an external card reader and don't want / need to use the monitor USB port
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2. Should I run the X-Rite 3.3.0 setup file as first step then connect i1 Display Pro to my PC USB
. I will also be reconnecting my existing monitor (Hanns-G) to it's original (1st DVI) port after SW240 is calibrated
3. Do I need to load anything from the SW240 supplied DVD, like drivers etc & when do I run this
4. Should I run PME 1.3.10 setup first, then connect the monitor (2nd DVI port) & power it up
5. Can I keep the existing factory set colour calibration (in case I need to fall back on it for some reason) and run PME / i1 Display Pro on a different calibration port setting, say 2
6. At 18:42; mention of initial pre-calibration of colormonki, my i1 Display Pro is brand new, does it need to be pre-calibrated before I continue with PME
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I hope it's not too much to ask but I know things can go wrong when they are out of sequence.
Give this video a look too it will help avoid issues ua-cam.com/video/PDoDwMIFpeM/v-deo.html
1. Yes you still need the USB for hardware calibration, it will not work otherwise.
2. Probably a good idea to install the software first. But if you want to start fresh with BenQ, then I would just install PME, plug in the device and calibrate. You have leave both display plugged in, but unplugging the other non BenQ is a sure way to guarantee non conflicts.
3. No you just need PME>
4. The sequence does not matter in this situation.
5. Factory color mode will always remain, you can't change those. Your calibration will come in on either slot 1 or 2, choose one or the other won't change any factory calibration.
6. So that device is an i1Studio and it is a color spectrophotometer. For these type of devices, you will need to pre-calibrate the device, the software will walk you through this. You have an i1Display Pro which is a colorimeter, if you keep watching until the part where I calibrate the PC, you will see there no pre-calibration. Follow the prompt on PME.
Have fun!
@@ArtIsRight thank you Art; a very informative & comprehensive reply, I will follow your advice. I've watched the Measurement Error video and switched off my Spyder 3 software, I can't see anything else in there relating to calibration at the moment. I've just tried to run the 3.3.0 i1Profiler software but it won't load on my Win 7 PC, will have to check supported software levels in the morning unless you happen to know which version I should download.
About i1Profiler version, you would have to check their website, I don't know off the top of my head what version is Win 7 compatible. my guess would be the earlier 3.x version.
@@ArtIsRight thank again once again for your support. I have just tried the previous v3.2.2 version but the screen info, sent during setup, says it supports Windows 8.1 upwards, so I aborted this install. As it's getting rather late here in the UK; I have taken some screen dumps & emailed the query direct to their support team, hopefully they will get back to me tomorrow or the day after.
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Hi Art, any advice on calibrating two SW2700PT's?
Both are connected via displayport, both connected to USB3, and are seen as different monitors by Pallet Master Elements.
Unfortunately it doesn't matter which monitor I select and run the calibration on (and the program moves to the correct monitor) it only loads the LUT into the 1st Monitor (my main display in Windows).
I have confirmed this by using Calibration 1 and 2.
i1 Display Pro
Windows 10, Palette Master v1.3.11
There is a a Dell 2711 on a third dp connection running a profile created with i1Profiler.
So what you have to do is pull the USB Cable from the one that you are not calibrating on. The reason is because PME can't sees only 1 SW, it does not matter which models and what combination. Calibrate 1 at a time, disconnect the USB from the one that you are not calibrating and you are good.
@@ArtIsRight Thanks Art, hopefully that is something they can fix in a future update.
You're welcome
Black point relative = absolute? I am a bit confused about black point (Mac).
ua-cam.com/video/AlcZ29naX4g/v-deo.html & ua-cam.com/video/qDzu-ZTcJKw/v-deo.html
@@ArtIsRight thanks! I hadn’t realized that the nits level = relative. :-0
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Hi, I have a SW2700PT New Firmware model. Is it normal, that I can only manage to calibrate it using 1.3.8 version??? Also, using the same settings only 1 out of 5 results to good outcome. Is this normal too? 1.3.10 doesn't work at all, no matter how many times I tried.
Please answers these questions completely and we’ll go from here.
1. What computer (Laptop - Mac specify the model, year and size, Desktop, iMac, all in 1 PC, custom build, etc )
2. What is your Operating System (OS) version are you using? (For Mac please specify the dot release, for Windows please specify version / build number)
3. What calibrator are using?
4. What version of PME are you using?
5. What BenQ model do you have?
6. What cable are you using to connect your BenQ to your computer for the display signal, HDMI, Display Port, etc.
7. If you are using USB-C skip this question, if not, are you using a USB link cable between your laptop and display?
8. If you are using Mac was this a clean install or was the OS upgraded from a previous version at any point (I.e. From Mojave 10.13.x to Catalina 10.14.x)? Or was this Mac restore from a back up, time machine or other wise?
9. For PC, what GPU are you using? If Nvidia are you using their new Studio Driver?
10. Were you able able to successfully pass the validation at some point?
To answer your question, not at all if you can calibrate with Panel Native that is the best, better than Adobe RGB. Are you using a USB Upstream cable between the display and computer?
I watched this with great interest as I run dual SW240 BenQ monitors off my Nvidia GTX 660 video card. I upgraded my OS from Windows 7 to Windows 10 last year and recalibrated both monitors with my ColorMunki photo using the i1Studio software, but this required manually adjusting the brightness but it seemed to work well. After watching your video however I thought it would be best to try and calibrate the monitors using the BenQ Pallette Master Elements software. I downloaded the latest version (1.3.13) and followed your instructions. My primary monitor calibrated and verified ok, but when running the calibration sequence on my secondary display I found the software was still adjusting the brightness of the primary monitor. Thus I can not calibrate the 2nd monitor. Is this a bug in the pallete master software or am I doing something wrong?
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@@ArtIsRight Many thanks for this. I had thought that disconnecting one monitor may be a possible work around but with DVI connectors this is a pain and rather inconvenient. BenQ really need to get this bug sorted. i1Studio manages to get each monitor correct, so please urge BenQ to sort this if you can. I may just stick with i1studio in future.
You don't need to pull the DVI just the USB cord, and it is not that difficult to pull the USB. With this you can do a hardware calibration and it should work. i1Studio is not a hardware calibration program, but it does work for display calibration as well.
@@ArtIsRight I don't have the monitors connected by USB, only DVI. I found I actually had to re-configure Windows back to just one monitor, run the calibration, then reconnect and re-configure Windows back to 2 screens. That's the only way i've been able to get the calibration to work. A real pain to do unfortunately. I can't see me doing this too often. I shall probably revert to i1 software.
It is interesting that the calibration works without the USB. So good to know, I have not used DVI in years. The bright side is that you don't have to calibrate that often. But if you choose to do a software calibration that does work as well, each to their own :)
@ArtIsRight When i was a kid (age 9 -1993) i used to hang around in my father's studio. Looking around how they used to work with film camera, negatives of various sizes. Printing & developing photos in darkroom and Prints being washed with chemicals and water. Drying out on top of heater. I just remembered those hard working Golden Days and now we all do it in daylight like a breeze. Oh! What a journey it is to live and remember it all in a⚡ flash❤️.
Sorry if i'm too passionate about it.🙏
It's fine, thank you for sharing. Yeah if you think about it the film evolution took about 100 years before it got really great and versatile. Digital took about half that time, if you consider the first digital cameras in the late 1980 and early 1990. What's even more amazing is that the camera phone evolution took only about 1/5 of this time, look at the iPhone from the first one until now. Talk about exponential improvements.
@@ArtIsRight absolutely correct 👍
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@@ArtIsRight Today i came back to my studio and did calibration Panel Native D65 Luminance 80 and it worked. Now colour and brightness is perfect. May the pandemic end soon and shop start working as normal to all soon 🙏.
Agree!
I have a new SW270c display as an extended monitor for my iMac 27 5K 2019 computer and get the flicker in Lightroom you said was a bug that had been corrected. I am still getting it. What is the workaround? I am calibrating my display with a colorchecker display pro that I also recently got. Thank you.
Flickering is not the bug, color shift in adobe product is the bug. Flicking I am not sure what is causing that on your end. If you use 16 BIT LUT as the icc profile type that might be the issue, recommend setting that to matrix.
@@ArtIsRight Thank you. I am using Matrix and I think following your recommendations in the video. Is Adobe working on the color shift issue or do I have the wrong display for working with Adobe products ? Repeated calibrations using colorchecker display pro gave one PASS that was not saved and four FAILS that were saved. Continue to retry and have turned off all the automatic color adjustments I can find including ones in Accessibility on my iMac 27" 5K display. Thank you again.
Color shift issues has been limited for more than a year now. As far as flicking that could be the result of the GPU in your iMac and not the display. When in doubt do A/B testing, test the display with another machine to see if the issue persists. Or it could be the cable but if it is Lightroom Specific then it is more likely the GPU.
So if I do both photo and video, could I do 2 different calibrations like one gamma 2.2 panel native for photo and another gamma 2.4 and rec 709 roe Resolve? and then switch accordingly between the 2 (on a SW series monitor)?
Yes just remember to switch the icc profile as well ua-cam.com/video/Cgo2p7jF3n0/v-deo.html
@@ArtIsRight Thank you so much, your channel is great. Many colourist use an I/O card such the Blackmagic UltraStudio 4k. How would it work in that case with the SW series?
Hi my benq monitor is connected with hdmi port in my laptop, and as soon as i try to run the pallete master it says that i need to connect the usb from the monitor to the computer. Please help
With USB you need to use the USB Uplink cable as well. Also if you don't have an SW line don't use Palette Master Element, but if you do, you are using the right app