I'm just sitting here eating my sourdough toast and drinking coffee nodding my head like I know exactly what Mark is saying. But I don't. Yet. Got my first 4kg club though!
been at it off and in for a few years. definitely great for the body. I mix in kettlebells and mace (360 my go to warm up). Idex variable weight is good.
@@andreibarbuta i bought 4 kg too, wonder if its not to light for me cuz doing windmils i feel nothing, should i control weight more? or just use balistic force of mace? only after like 30 reps i feel my forearms
@@Rrkeiel I had major elbow injury and operation so I started with 2kg. Obviously it depends on what activities you do daily, you could be stronger than the median of people but doing at least 1 month with 4kg to set in the correct movement patters is much more important than just jumping to a higher weight in my opinion.
I'm so happy I happened to watch one of your videos 6 months ago. Since then I have made my own Heavy Clubs and Mace's, as well as bought some fixed weight ones. But when I watched your video about the Adex Adjustable HC and Mace that was the kicker. At 58 with one heart attack, two join replacements and really bad osteoarthritis. I have worked out most of my life and now with HC and Mace I feel amazing. Thank you Mark!
How did you make your own? I made some clubs when I was a teenager by filling some oversized plastic bats with sand, but I can't find any like that these days...
Mark you are legit strong!!! Some serious strength and technique to swing those heavy clubs. I love Gamma casting my 35 and 45 lb clubs…one of the best feelings in the world…just feels so manly. Great exercise!
Mark - sorry to hear about the old injuries. i battle my own, knee and back... love the goal! first time i've seen you struggle with a weight. As Sam always warns me, dont go up in weight until ready!
Funnily, since Mark mentions “endurance”, I’d just switched my gym regime to more endurance-oriented. Directly related to anti-glycolitic training. So - thanks, Mark - spot on, as ever!
Spyderco has such a great knack for making good quality, eminently functional products. I have a ridiculously overstocked knife drawer and it's nuts how often, given all the choices, I pick out a Spyderco.
Great content sir. As a a male with somewhat of a physical job and a shoulder injury in the past 18 years old now 46 would you start at light indian clubs or a 10 or 15 lbs heavy club to get my feet wet so to speak.
These monster clubs looked awesome when I first saw them! Glad to finally see you swing them. How's the feel of the swing, compared to the 45 lb RMAX clubbell? I would assume closer than the "old style" GLG heavy clubs.
Just got my adex club into today. I’m super excited to add this to my routine. I’ve been using a 15 lb macebell but wanted the weight adjustments. Where should I start and what are the fundamental exercises for the heavy club?
Go to Mark’s channel he has UNREAL content, multiple playlists with what is easily several hundred dollars worth of content; sequential training of basic to advanced techniques for each piece of equipment. Separate lists for 2-handed club and one-handed club
| have the impression that a lot heavy club excercises include rotation the spine with weight. | understood from podcasts with dan John and Stuart McGill that fast rotation with weight is to be avoided. Because it will cause damage to the disks in your spine. Because im a layman in these topics im struggling to make sense of it. | would love to keep training with heavy clubs, but dont know how i should train to avoid damaging my disks. Or If i even understood this correctly from these podcasts. Do you have any suggestions in this?
Your back is designed to be really strong. The spine has a superstructure of supporting elements allowing it to twist / rotate. Other joints and muscles aid the back in allowing it to rotate, because it's supposed to. Are you planning on never rotating or twisting your spine in everyday life for good, no taking stuff out of the car, reaching for things. Placing certain stresses on our bodies allow them to become stronger/mobile in different ways, in this case making the spine stronger through these ranges. Dan John has no interest or experience with clubbells, great as he is with loads of other coaching. One example is single-arm kettlebell swings, where's the evidence that these are bad per se? Take that with a grain of course, I'm not a doctor, but I've only seen strength and mobility gains, back never felt stronger and feels increasingly less likely to give me trouble, while around me people are constantly in bother with theirs ( anecdotal of course ). I get where you are coming from though, Mark slinging around 88lb levers after talking about 'suicide-fall' routines blowing his knee apart 😂
It seems to me context and an examination of “heavy” on a relative spectrum. ie a “heavy club” is a heavy _club_. The ones Mark is talking about are ~90 lbs and he’s in the waaay upper end. Maces would be even less. Vs for the same individual a 90lb barbell would in all likelihood in no way be heavy. In addition, the positioning is very different where the clubs, while ultimately still bearing on the spine, have some suspension effect from arms etc. whereas the greater weight of the barbell would be bearing directly on vertebra & discs; in the case of a back squat. So my position would be: heavy is relative, the human body is incredible in its ability to adapt & build capacity in response to _progressive_ stressors. Start easy, pay attention to feedback and go have fun. Not a Dr or physio, YMMV
You know that Dan John still throws the discus, right? That is rotation with weight. So, it’s relative. And Dan John himself would add a “however…” in any statement.
I would say that the spine/trunk is designed to rotate, and that heavy is relative to the individual. Traditional lifting and clubs provide compressional and rotational loading which are fine, only a shearing force is to be avoided. Just my opinion, not a medical professional but 35 plus years in gyms, and I've worked with professional sportsmen.
@@Taijidude Start light. Add volume (more reps, more sets). Then add density (more reps per minute, finish your sets faster). Then add intensity (heavier club) but reduce volume and density. Repeat volume and density cycles. Then add complexity. Repeat. This is how I got to swinging a 15kg club single hand from a 5kg. And most importantly take it slow. It takes years to get strong with clubs Mark has a whole series of videos analyzing this or you can buy one of his programs.
2HC program question. 4:06 When would be the optimal time to move from 30 seconds Work 30 Seconds rest to 60 seconds work 60 seconds rest? Will you be releasing the follow along video for those?
Great video , really hard to judge for a keyboard warrior tenth dan ninja like myself what weight I actually need to begin with ... i used 6 kg pole for a good while now ,I'm gonna go for a 10 kg ...strut around like a caveman I reckon haha many thanks get on it everyone these style of exercises are great for mobility my body has seen better days sometimes as well , I'm not sure wtf id be doing if I hadn't been watching these video !!!
Everyone is sold out of 35lbs clubs so im thinking to pull the trigger on a pair the glgp 18kg and maybe one of the 36kg for two handed, curious if the knob on your collaborative model is smaller than the old ones in addition to what appears to be a slightly longer length?
I don’t know if you’ll get this and respond but I’m looking to move to heavy club I actually purchased one on Amazon a 30lb logest but it never was delivered. My question is what weight do you recommend I start with as I’ve used a 30lb and can handle it well. I’m 6’7” 215-220 firefighter 52age. I am able to do 32lb mace 10-2 10 per side and rest. Watching what you’ve expressed at the 50lb to 80lb segment I’ll look at purchasing a 50lb and move from there.
Mark I notice you’re swinging what looks like an adjustable heavy club in some of your videos . If so is there one you recommend. I’m at 15 lbs now and looking to step up in weight.
In other videos MW has talked about starting kids with staff so they learn the rotational moves but aren’t as heavy weight if they are not ready for weight lifting
Two hand club forces a full rotation. You can cheat and rotate less with one hand. So the 2 hand makes your 1 hand better. And you can get twice as heavy with 2 hands so your core gets a stronger workout. Hips glutes obliques everything. You gotta do both
How tall are you? You look pretty tall. Most people aren't. That said, how do you expect people of average or lower height not to drag the ground with the tip of the club? I hope I'm wrong about this and that we're not dealing with an assumptive design oversight.
Get an Adex club. The lever is shorter when you start with a light weight. I am 5 ft 3 and I have a 4kg club. It's not Adex, but planning to get one soon.
Anyone have Basis of Strength levels 6&7 (i.e. Wildman Athletica 2 hand club program) or know if they exist? I've only been able to purchase levels 1-5.
Where can we reach you to enquire avout your programs? I tried to send you an email via the address of your UA-cam channel, but perhaps that is not appropriate, or perhaps it got drowned in the mass of messages or flagged as spam. Anyways, thanks again for all your work.
Is it normal for a 15kg clubbell to have a grip diameter of 4.6cm??? ... Here in Europe (Central Europe), they only sell 15kg clubbelly with such a large grip diameter... :D :D :D...
My God, this is terrifying to witness. Lifting a lot of weight is one thing, but swinging it around like that, *with control* is a whole new level. Terrifying, Mark. 🫠
I'm just sitting here eating my sourdough toast and drinking coffee nodding my head like I know exactly what Mark is saying. But I don't. Yet. Got my first 4kg club though!
been at it off and in for a few years. definitely great for the body. I mix in kettlebells and mace (360 my go to warm up). Idex variable weight is good.
Congratulations! You’ll love it! I started with 4kg also, it’s not nothing, you’ll feel it especially as the volume increases 🎉
@@andreibarbuta i bought 4 kg too, wonder if its not to light for me cuz doing windmils i feel nothing, should i control weight more? or just use balistic force of mace? only after like 30 reps i feel my forearms
@@Rrkeiel I had major elbow injury and operation so I started with 2kg. Obviously it depends on what activities you do daily, you could be stronger than the median of people but doing at least 1 month with 4kg to set in the correct movement patters is much more important than just jumping to a higher weight in my opinion.
@@andreibarbuta ok, but Wonder how i should be doing it the, should i try to słów movement to put my control more on top or let it be balistic?
I'm so happy I happened to watch one of your videos 6 months ago. Since then I have made my own Heavy Clubs and Mace's, as well as bought some fixed weight ones. But when I watched your video about the Adex Adjustable HC and Mace that was the kicker.
At 58 with one heart attack, two join replacements and really bad osteoarthritis. I have worked out most of my life and now with HC and Mace I feel amazing.
Thank you Mark!
How did you make your own? I made some clubs when I was a teenager by filling some oversized plastic bats with sand, but I can't find any like that these days...
@@anonperson3972, there's a bunch of tutorials here on YT to DIY these types of equipment
I’ve been living on the 25LB club for about 6 weeks and just jumped to 35LB - that extra 10 is a world of difference 💪 💫
Get a 30
@@MarkWildman Where do we get the 30LBS? I have been looking but did not find it. Please guide. Thanks!
@@RachitBAmazon.
Through various places I've now got clubs 15-45# by 5 pounds - one has to be a beast to get up to the weights Mark is tossing around here.
Been a while since a vid showed Mark struggling. I dont wanna think how heavy those must feel
Love your content!
Switzerland 🇨🇭. love your videos
Mark you are legit strong!!! Some serious strength and technique to swing those heavy clubs. I love Gamma casting my 35 and 45 lb clubs…one of the best feelings in the world…just feels so manly. Great exercise!
Mark - sorry to hear about the old injuries. i battle my own, knee and back... love the goal! first time i've seen you struggle with a weight. As Sam always warns me, dont go up in weight until ready!
Funnily, since Mark mentions “endurance”, I’d just switched my gym regime to more endurance-oriented. Directly related to anti-glycolitic training. So - thanks, Mark - spot on, as ever!
Spyderco has such a great knack for making good quality, eminently functional products. I have a ridiculously overstocked knife drawer and it's nuts how often, given all the choices, I pick out a Spyderco.
Very good information.I' m going to check out this great Lakes clubs.
Mark I like how you say life is long. I like that.
Ilov! flow of the club & form exercises, it feels so natural. Thank You!
Just ordered a 20kg club today. More will come soon I hope
Great video coach. 💪🏽
Have you thought about doing a training vlog series? Where you just record your training sessions for a training cycle?
8:28 nice dance moves bro!
Great content sir. As a a male with somewhat of a physical job and a shoulder injury in the past 18 years old now 46 would you start at light indian clubs or a 10 or 15 lbs heavy club to get my feet wet so to speak.
Unbelievable Strength
These monster clubs looked awesome when I first saw them! Glad to finally see you swing them. How's the feel of the swing, compared to the 45 lb RMAX clubbell? I would assume closer than the "old style" GLG heavy clubs.
Just got my adex club into today. I’m super excited to add this to my routine. I’ve been using a 15 lb macebell but wanted the weight adjustments. Where should I start and what are the fundamental exercises for the heavy club?
Go to Mark’s channel he has UNREAL content, multiple playlists with what is easily several hundred dollars worth of content; sequential training of basic to advanced techniques for each piece of equipment. Separate lists for 2-handed club and one-handed club
Thanks coach
| have the impression that a lot heavy club excercises include rotation the spine with weight. | understood from podcasts with dan John and Stuart McGill that fast rotation with weight is to be avoided. Because it will cause damage to the disks in your spine. Because im a layman in these topics im struggling to make sense of it. | would love to keep training with heavy clubs, but dont know how i should train to avoid damaging my disks. Or If i even understood this correctly from these podcasts. Do you have any suggestions in this?
Your back is designed to be really strong.
The spine has a superstructure of supporting elements allowing it to twist / rotate.
Other joints and muscles aid the back in allowing it to rotate, because it's supposed to.
Are you planning on never rotating or twisting your spine in everyday life for good, no taking stuff out of the car, reaching for things.
Placing certain stresses on our bodies allow them to become stronger/mobile in different ways, in this case making the spine stronger through these ranges.
Dan John has no interest or experience with clubbells, great as he is with loads of other coaching. One example is single-arm kettlebell swings, where's the evidence that these are bad per se?
Take that with a grain of course, I'm not a doctor, but I've only seen strength and mobility gains, back never felt stronger and feels increasingly less likely to give me trouble, while around me people are constantly in bother with theirs ( anecdotal of course ).
I get where you are coming from though, Mark slinging around 88lb levers after talking about 'suicide-fall' routines blowing his knee apart 😂
It seems to me context and an examination of “heavy” on a relative spectrum.
ie a “heavy club” is a heavy _club_. The ones Mark is talking about are ~90 lbs and he’s in the waaay upper end.
Maces would be even less.
Vs for the same individual a 90lb barbell would in all likelihood in no way be heavy.
In addition, the positioning is very different where the clubs, while ultimately still bearing on the spine, have some suspension effect from arms etc. whereas the greater weight of the barbell would be bearing directly on vertebra & discs; in the case of a back squat.
So my position would be: heavy is relative, the human body is incredible in its ability to adapt & build capacity in response to _progressive_ stressors.
Start easy, pay attention to feedback and go have fun.
Not a Dr or physio, YMMV
You know that Dan John still throws the discus, right? That is rotation with weight. So, it’s relative. And Dan John himself would add a “however…” in any statement.
I would say that the spine/trunk is designed to rotate, and that heavy is relative to the individual.
Traditional lifting and clubs provide compressional and rotational loading which are fine, only a shearing force is to be avoided.
Just my opinion, not a medical professional but 35 plus years in gyms, and I've worked with professional sportsmen.
@@Taijidude Start light. Add volume (more reps, more sets). Then add density (more reps per minute, finish your sets faster). Then add intensity (heavier club) but reduce volume and density. Repeat volume and density cycles. Then add complexity. Repeat. This is how I got to swinging a 15kg club single hand from a 5kg. And most importantly take it slow. It takes years to get strong with clubs Mark has a whole series of videos analyzing this or you can buy one of his programs.
Nice clubs and good luck in pursuit of your goal =)
2HC program question. 4:06 When would be the optimal time to move from 30 seconds Work 30 Seconds rest to 60 seconds work 60 seconds rest? Will you be releasing the follow along video for those?
Try the CK Maceworks loadable club and mace. They allow for huge range of weights.
You know what’s up!
Will you ever consider doing any programs or videos on plyometrics?
I have a 5 lb mace I can shield cast with 1 hand and I feel like a god lol…. Can’t wait to creep up to these weights
We all gotta start at the bottom, mate! I feel the same way as you with 5lbs mace 🙂
Sigh…I need to make more dough. Wanting heavier clubs and planning a wedding has its difficulties
So true, I’m at 25lbs with my Adex right now, but I’ll probably end up getting the mastodon kit to get to the 80lb range instead of individual clubs.
I live under Oak trees. Heavy clubs not a problem. As long as a Widow maker doesn't get me
Great video , really hard to judge for a keyboard warrior tenth dan ninja like myself what weight I actually need to begin with ... i used 6 kg pole for a good while now ,I'm gonna go for a 10 kg ...strut around like a caveman I reckon haha many thanks get on it everyone these style of exercises are great for mobility my body has seen better days sometimes as well , I'm not sure wtf id be doing if I hadn't been watching these video !!!
damn 💪🏼
so brave swinging that by your bike! i'd be scared even to use my light clubs/bats whatever near my own car...
Everyone is sold out of 35lbs clubs so im thinking to pull the trigger on a pair the glgp 18kg and maybe one of the 36kg for two handed, curious if the knob on your collaborative model is smaller than the old ones in addition to what appears to be a slightly longer length?
Here in Australia the heaviest clubbell available is 25 kgs.
I don’t know if you’ll get this and respond but I’m looking to move to heavy club I actually purchased one on Amazon a 30lb logest but it never was delivered. My question is what weight do you recommend I start with as I’ve used a 30lb and can handle it well. I’m 6’7” 215-220 firefighter 52age. I am able to do 32lb mace 10-2 10 per side and rest. Watching what you’ve expressed at the 50lb to 80lb segment I’ll look at purchasing a 50lb and move from there.
my 15 lb club is arriving today.
Mark, what is that circular light at two minutes and 38 seconds in the top middle of the screen.
Skylight
Mark I notice you’re swinging what looks like an adjustable heavy club in some of your videos . If so is there one you recommend. I’m at 15 lbs now and looking to step up in weight.
Adex Wildman club
Went from 15 to 23.5 lbs. Another couple months until my life changes :)
I managed to get to 33 lbs club. I can't imagine 115 pounds club at this point :))
Holy crap
Oh those are big bois
Because of the longer lever arm of the 38 kg bell, it should feel the same like the 40 kg while swinging. Or am i wrong?
Are you going to add the timers to the new single arm club program? The timers say 0/0.
How old would you recommend someone start club swinging? my boys are 7 and 9 years old.
Now ✌🏼
In other videos MW has talked about starting kids with staff so they learn the rotational moves but aren’t as heavy weight if they are not ready for weight lifting
Should someone start with Kettlebells or Clubs? Or can you do both from the beginning?
You can start with both from the beginning. Be sure to start light with the club so your joints can get used to the movements before increasing
Just started with a 15lb that’s a heavy club for me. I can’t imagine getting to a 38kg club.
15lb is pretty heavy on one arm. I can't see myself goin much higher than 30, if that
That depends on your age, fitness, ambitious and bank balance.
Mark, are all bases covered just doing single hand club work or do you see a glaring gap without 2-hand work?
Two hand club forces a full rotation. You can cheat and rotate less with one hand. So the 2 hand makes your 1 hand better. And you can get twice as heavy with 2 hands so your core gets a stronger workout. Hips glutes obliques everything. You gotta do both
@@aaronholub5427great reply. Thank you!
Is there a correlation between your personal weight and the size of the club you could reasonably work towards? What about the age of the individual.
I get lateral knee pain from repeatedly locking out and bending my legs while doing heavy club training.
So Inspiring @mark ! Do you know how can we get above 25kg in europe. I finished the 2H heavy club & squat program with my 25kg.
[ Girya .pl ] have a 28kg and 30kg
There's a Polish shop ( girya ) , have sweet looking 28 and 30s
I’m here for the knife education
It's a crucial part.
It's a very crucial part.
Lovely
I’m sorry 38kg ?! I thought my 20kg was on the heavy side
How tall are you? You look pretty tall. Most people aren't. That said, how do you expect people of average or lower height not to drag the ground with the tip of the club? I hope I'm wrong about this and that we're not dealing with an assumptive design oversight.
Get an Adex club. The lever is shorter when you start with a light weight. I am 5 ft 3 and I have a 4kg club. It's not Adex, but planning to get one soon.
@@annaz9655 thanks!
Anyone have Basis of Strength levels 6&7 (i.e. Wildman Athletica 2 hand club program) or know if they exist? I've only been able to purchase levels 1-5.
Where can we reach you to enquire avout your programs? I tried to send you an email via the address of your UA-cam channel, but perhaps that is not appropriate, or perhaps it got drowned in the mass of messages or flagged as spam.
Anyways, thanks again for all your work.
His spine is fitter than me
Is it normal for a 15kg clubbell to have a grip diameter of 4.6cm??? ... Here in Europe (Central Europe), they only sell 15kg clubbelly with such a large grip diameter... :D :D :D...
80lbs 100 continuous.....
A Gama-Tithe
Everybody likes unboxing
epic
Too bad each of these clubs is multiple hundreds of dollars.
How much are they
Modern gyms are so useless,if we consider gains,risk of injury and lack of real world needs from our joints and muscles
No lmao, you're training wrong
What an idiot he stole this from the Iron Sheik
What an idiot, i stole It from all of human history.
1st
Meow
My God, this is terrifying to witness. Lifting a lot of weight is one thing, but swinging it around like that, *with control* is a whole new level. Terrifying, Mark. 🫠
Eleanor Roosevelt: Do something that scares you every day.
Me: Ok, yes. *watches this video again*